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00:00 Introduction
02:32 Gigabyte
02:36 Acer
02:51 Lenovo
03:40 Asus Duo
04:42 Asus G14 & G16
05:53 Dell XPS 14 & 16
07:41 MSI Cyborg
08:53 HP Omen Transcend 14
10:16 CES Thoughts
11:41 Framework
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I feel like this year’s “Why buying a laptop sucks” is going to be eerily similar to last year’s (at least for Windows laptops) 😂
I'm actually doing a different angry video for this year :) I'm hoping to get it out end of Jan or first week Feb
That's always been true for electronics, and its especially true with cell phones. Technology doesn't improve just based on the calendar month. The only significant change in cell phone tech, for example, hasn't been apparent since the move to 5G -- which is still grossly underutilized. A scant bit more power and new camera processing software. That's all people are really paying for.
I would like for this to not br the case. Not that i am an intel fanboy, but i am actually looking forward to a world where the thinkpaf x1 carbon has something that resembles a descent internal graphics card. A thing the new meteor lake class promises.
Framework though!
@mtadc1545 Yeah, Framework (and surprisingly the Tongfang resellers like XMG and Eluktronics) seem to be the winners this year. Even though the 16 inch Framework Laptop was announced in the third quarter of 2023 and planned to be released by the end of 2023, it was ultimately delayed for several reasons to fix several issues. However, thr transparency they showed while fixing these issues is commendable, which is why I still kept my pre-order (as well as nothing else having good Linux support with a 16 : 10 screen in the U.S.).
Good advice: buy a last-year model. And go larger than 14" if possible, to avoid cooling-related annoyances.
BTW, when you look at the second camera in the cutaway shots, it looks so, so, so much better. That small change makes such a difference in how polished the finished product of your videos appear.
When you're this passionate about computers, your inner voice won't let you peddle garbage. I feel Josh's voice can be trusted.
It's really helpful to have a quick summary for CES
Great video, thank you! Any thoughts on the Galaxy Book 4 line-up?
G14 or OMEN 14 which one is more impressive ?
Looking for a high performance 14 inch windows laptop this year.
Something I think that's not talked about more, especially in the 14" gaming laptop market, is the adoption of the higher wattage usb c power delivery. I'm also super excited for the MSI Trascend or whatever mainly because it's using PD 3.1, along with Framework 16. Standardization is the way forward with powering these devices.
I would be cautiously optimistic. Lenovo has already shown their laptops won't charge at max USB-C rates unless you buy and use their own dedicated charger. If you also know the phone market, there's also many, many different battery technologies developing at the same time, resulting in different charging standards and speeds, even though they're all USB-C
yes, this is biggest problem for me now that I adopted "one charger" policy - looking now at legion slim 5 14 and wondering buy or wait
Framework actually delayed their chargers for the 16 inch laptops to get it right. So I'm sure their 180 watt charger will be the best on the market, at least until a 240 watt option appears (but one currently doesn't exist).
Hello Josh,
I need your advice today for a new laptop.
Because water leaked out of my sports bag, directly onto my laptop, onto the screen, during the exam period.
I need a new laptop.
Could you please advise me and tell me if the dual-screen feature is suitable for this?
I'm studying engineering, where I use various programming programs.
C++, Java, Python, as well as 3D CAD, technical drawing.
Is it suitable for that, or can you recommend another one?
Thank you for your help.
Thank you for the video. I would like to see more of what computer people buy and use themselves.
Josh, did you have a chance to check out the LG Gram Pro?
I loved this summary, will put a stop in surfing on youtube looking for more CES news. It was pretty underwhelming this CES and thanks to Josh for pointing this out
I would like to hear your opinions on the asus rog x13. Business looking, thin and light whose performance has been lauded by most. Battery life has seen erratic results. I am interrested your opinion as software developper.
Awesome and informative video!
Thanks!)
Can't wait to see the Framework 16
I'm on it right now doing the review ;)
I had an xps 13 plus and the touch bar and heat issues were so horrible I had to return it. Hopefully the new ones are better.
Spoiler alert: They aren't. The XPS 16, in particular, is even worse.
A very helpful video. Thank you, Josh!
Hey josh i need to purchase a laptop for my university right now and i was strongly leaning towards purchasing the 2023 legion slim 7 with i7 13th gen and RTX 4060. But then came the CES along with a redesigned Zephyrus G14 and G16.
So, Is it worth it to wait for the G16 to launch?
As it highly depends on the pricing for me, Do you have any idea about the pricing of the new Zephyrus G16, are they gonna bump up the prices compared to the last year because of a more premium display, build and speaker system?
if you are buying it just for class, then buy something older. Get like an m1 MacBook or something
Have you reviews the budget hp victus ? I’m interested in that review. Thanks.
Hi Josh ! First of all I'd like to say thank you for your video. You're really helpful when it comes to laptop.
But I have a problem: in 2022 I bought hp latest envy x360 15. Everything I wanted was on the paper. But the thing is the battery only lasted 4h/4h30 a day 💀. I'm a student so I only used it for school but I couldn't finish the day without charging it.
So right now I'm lost and idk what to choose: an aio? A laptop? Which one? I want something with a really good battery and also something that can handle light video/photo editing
Please help me I'm desperate!
buy a MacBook Air
Great job!
Thank you for your efforts in putting this together 😊
Thx for the work
Thank you for a great video. 👍
It's strange that some of the new handheld game console manufacturers decided to roll with the Intel Ultra 155H silicon 🤔
Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't the new Intel Ultra CPUs way more power efficient? Isn't that the whole point? So then these new laptops would be a lot more power efficient wouldn't they?
They only seem to be on AMD Ryzen 7040 U/HS levels of efficient, or slightly below. In other words, Intel is still playing catch up to AMD from last year.
Great content 👌 👏
Whats your thoughts on the new hp x360 2-in-1 14", noticed you didn't mention any 2-in-1 laptops 🤔
Keep up the great content 👏
good REVIEWs. We look forward to Framework 16" review ... SOON ????
I was so waiting to replace my old Dell xps with a new one. But, getting rid of the function key seems like a blunder b/c many people use them for productivity short cuts. Then to make them capacitance keys is another blunder. Did they not learn from Apple? I decided to look elsewhere for my replacement.
They're evolving, just backwards.
I wish g16 has a numpad on it like past year’s Zephyrus duo
What do you think about the expertbook new B series ,like 5404?
Really looking forward to the Acer Aspire Vero 16 👌🏼
And the new generation of the 14 inch Vero later this year (hopefully)
Looking forward to the laptops review! 🙌🏾
So many laptops without numpads. To me this says that most laptops are oriented towards either homes/gamers or graphical content creators, and certainly not to people in the scientific or engineering community, or financial/administrative community, where a numpad is often a must.
To me, any laptop bigger than 15" without numpad is just a miss. The space is there, why not use it. As a business owner in the engineering sector, I even use the little numpad inside the touchpad on my asus 13.3" from time to time when I'm away from home and want work getting done. Brilliant feature!
Maybe just use external nunpad keyboard, until you find one with numpad
This is really a worry for me too when I'll move off my elitebook. An external keyboard ends up taking up a precious port too
Always a deal breaker for me!!!
I always like those full size keyboard laptops
Please do more content on 16inch laptops this year like you did with the 14s :)
We definitely are this year. We have a tone more staff and team members than last year. Plus I was only full time half of last year. So that makes a big difference too
Yeah, I'll have to see reviews before deciding on my next laptop. For now eyeing the G16
Intel, AMD and Windows need to sit down and figure out some kind of unified strategy for performance and battery life or else by the time it's really bad it will be too late to catch up. The development to market time line is not short and the competition is not stagnant.
AMD is pretty good on that front with their HS and especially U series CPUs. The problem is that very few laptops use them. 🤦♂️
Any recommendations for the best possible gaming laptop thats is also a 2-1? Thanks
Asus ROG Flow x13.
Have you had a look at Asus X13 and X16 Flow? It's really the only convertible laptop with a full fat gaming GPU. I would love to see your thoughts.
The Flow x13 is pretty good. Unfortunately, it still uses a M.2 2230 SSD, meaning you're currently limited to using that size of SSD, which at the moment only goes up to 2 TB, and is harder to find.
The x16 from 2023 is a step back from the 2022 model in terms of battery life because the Intel 13th gen CPU uses more power and is less efficient than the AMD Ryzen 6000 CPU it was replacing.
They're both still good options, but given they're both limited to an RTX 4070 at the top end (not a big deal for the x13 as that is literally a 13.4 inch laptop with a dGPU, but more annoying for the x16) and are quite expensive for what they offer. Granted, I do like the touch screen functionality and XG Mobile port on the laptops; just be prepared to spend a LOT of money on the RTX 4090 XG Mobile.
Personally, they're some of the only Windows laptops I'd buy from 2023 or 2024.
@@cameronbosch1213 thanks for the advice. 13 is a bit too small for me. And tbh I think the x16 is too thick to be portable. So I'll wait for the 2024 yoga pro 9i 16
I was waiting for your video. Finally !
glad i waited those g14 and g16 is looking really nice.
What did you think of the new HP Spectre x360 14? Will you be doing a review? With the XPS moving to a touch bar function key row (complete non-starter for me), this now potentially looks to me like the best ultrabook - interested in what the performance / battery life numbers say though.
Yes we have the Spectre 14 here. It should be out this month. Just testing it now
@@JustJoshTech Great to hear! Thanks Josh, keep up the great work.
I got one and returned it. Not sure if it was a defective unit, but the OLED display had a visible pentile-like grid.
@@livedreamsgThat might be a defective panel in the panel lottery. Try another model; it may just have been that one panel.
Your videos are so practical and help so much for making decisions for buying the right laptop. Thanks.
It would have been interesting to hear your take on thinkpad p1 gen 6, if occasion arise.
My 2013 MBP i5, 8GB RAM, is still going strong. Light, does day-to-day tasks and Civ 5, and I have the latest macOS on it with a workaround. :) This is small, light, useful, and has all the ports (except USB-C, but that's okay). Battery life is fantastic; it's my road warrior. For day-to-day tasks, my Alienware X14 is doing a good job but am mostly using it as a desktop replacement at this point, with a docking station, external keyboard and mouse, and a large Alienware monitor. It does travel once in a while but is hobbled by battery performance. It compiles my Camtasia videos pretty well and plays Baldur's Gate 3 well, too.
Hi Josh! Any idea of when the Cyborg 14 will be coming out?
I want to know what best laptop to buy that may be amd new chip and how it compares
The capacitive function row is funny lol, what purpose does it serve?
Awesome overview of CES laptop releases with your very tasteful insight on what actually counts as upgrades vs marketing shenanigans. Absolutely more of this.
Excited to see the real-world results of Intel's 14th gen charade vs 13th gen and AMD. Seems that with the new looks-focused approach and the disappointment expected from Intel, manufacturers would have to actively take their older models off the market, just to be able to sell their newer ones.
Thanks for your support!
Nice to hear that my few months old Legion Pro 7i still holding up 🔥
This was so good! Very nice video!
I don't understand. Dave2D has previewed the Lenovo Yoga Slim 7i, with the new Intel Ultra Core 7 CPU, which means it's fast, cool and quiet. Did Lenovo not have those at the CES?
They did have them there. We have not found that the Intel Ultra Core 7 CPU does that in our testing - fast, cool, and quiet. I'm not sure what testing Dave did. So i can't speak to that.
@@JustJoshTech oh, that's too bad, was hoping the duo would be quiet and have an okay battery life
Great preview of laptops thats to come. Though with the bevy of laptops to choose from I feel buying one would never be enough
Man you live here in AZ ? Im in Glendale love your reviews lead me to my decision fo get my Helios 16 I9 RTX 4080 last year
I cannot stand the touch function keys on the newer XPS.
This is a great video! Such a sober and knowledgeable first take.
Hey, Josh and team. Are you by any chance going to review the Acer Predator Triton 17X? Thinking about getting this one. It’s a 17" beast with an RTX 4090. No major channel have review this one yet. Also, hope you review Samsung’s new laptops.
Josh, pls do a review on Asus Vivobook and how different it is from Zenbook, I'm planning to buy Vivobook 14x Oled as Zenbook isn't available or affordable in India.
8:42, mine is single fan and shared heatpipes, which makes cpu and gpu handicapped, with heavy thermal throttling.
I'm personally holding out until AND strix halo, expexted to be x86's closets m1 equivelant
Yes, this is very helpful, especially to temper the hype that manufacturers try to generate!
We're fighting back here!
A belated welcome to Arizona. You're right! That drive is beautiful. I made that trip many times for work myself over the years. I dig your videos. You and the team do a great job and appear not to be shills for the OEM's. I appreciate that. Keep up the good work. We want your mum to continue to be proud. Lastly, yes, if your up for travel, I'd love to see more videos on shows like CES. By the way, I'm trying out a Beelink NER 6 Ryzen 9 6900 HX. Get's good reviews, plays games, and is meets my application for mobility. Perhaps you can look at some of the better NUC style computers in the future????? Thanks!!!
The MSI Claw is the only mobile computing device from CES that I found interesting since it uses a Meteor Lake Intel CPU instead of the AMD Z1. I want to see how an eGPU would perform with it.
On thunderbolt 4 desktop gpu is not mucb better than similar mobile gpu cuz bandwith constrain , jarrod have compared mobile gpu and desktop egpu with thunderbolt , i wonder how egpu will perfrom on thunderbolt 5
It is mixed bag, basically
@mrbobgamingmemes9558 Correct. Thunderbolt 4 is a really big bottle neck for eGPUs, to the point where I wouldn't recommend them over Thunderbolt 4. Maybe with Asus's ROG XG Mobile, however, it's propietary and only on a small subset of Asus laptops.
@@cameronbosch1213 yeah even with thunderbolt 5 i can only recommended egpu for mobile device like laptop, handheld , or both maybe, not mini pc cuz mini pc should be used by itself since the reason why mini pc is exist is because mini space usage , there is no way you can fit mini pc plus egpu but cannot fit mini itx pc
My subjective viewpoint is that Intel, AMD, Nvidia don't have much new upgrades to offer because we have reached the current peak in technology. CPUs, GPUs are already innovated to the level where there aren't massive upgrades possible, without some totally new technology (such as optical computing for example). Nanometer race is getting to an end, since making things smaller with current technology isn't yielding lot of returns. Laptops themselves are already maxed out as well. Displays are edge to edge, batteries with maximum allowed capacity, cooling at its max where there isn't any room to add more power to the system. Screens look nicer than ever with high resolutions and color accuracy, etc. I got the Slim 7i last year and really don't really see what there is to improve after this. It is at its peak and has all the good stuff already. Similar story in mobile phone industry where the improvements are just incremental for the past few years already. Tech sector is laying off lot of people, to replace with AI.. while AI itself is still too raw and untested. This will likely come back to bite some time soon. Given the situation with Boeing, 2024 may be a year where lot of red starts to show in the stock market. Time will tell.
Josh so are they discontinuing the Lenovo Legion Slim 7? That's such a shame because I was ready to pick that up based on your review but it looks like that's out of stock as of the moment and possibly never again? :(
The Slim 7 is now the Legion 7. It actually now gets _another_ redesign with two RAM slots.
Thnx for ur video i want to buy a high end gaming laptop so in ur opinion buy it now or wait for 2025 rtx 5000
Thinkpad t14s amd 7840U is still Dady in windows bussiness line
Am I the only one who's getting tired of hearing about AI
well too bad because you're gonna be hearing about it for the rest of your life. Also why would you be sick of it when it is literally going to change the world
@burtdanams4426 because it's going to lead mass unemployment and people will become even more dependent on technology
yes
Yes
It’s nothing but MS Access with Macros
Tbh i really prefer micro sd slots. Most devices use the small ones and then you dont have to bring the big one. Moreover the big one just takes up to much space which could be used for other i/o. If you are using any device using the big one like a camera, bringing an adapter is not your main concern
I did not see any mention of the piezoelectric cooling technology that was promoted last year. I was hoping to see at least 1pc laptop demo this
simple and good review ❤❤
I would like a focus on 16" gaming laptops, thermal performance, and screen color gamut and color accuracy.
Dell’s touch interface is even worse than Apple’s touchbar. Didn’t they learn from Apple’s U-turn that people would rather have traditional function keys?
please review the zenbook duo soon! it is strange how much I want to know whats your opinion on it xD though I am not buying any laptop at the moment
We do have one coming in but likely won't be out till end of March. There are alot of laptops in front of it
Yo man I really need your help. I have a zenbook 14 but it just froze by starting it up. I hasn’t reacted for over 8 hours and buttons don’t work. Can you help pls?
@@JustJoshTech. when?
what is the difference between 7840hs vs 8840hs for laptop. Should I wait for 8840hs or go with last generation.
Last gen is bascially the same. 7840 HS or 8840 HS; get whatever is cheaper.
I was wondering if there will be a new Asus Zenbook 14X release in 2024. I can find any information online. I love the design but the battery life is a deal breaker.
As usual a great review. Thanks. I just feel like you missed Lenovo yoga 9i pro.
Thank you! That is the Slim Pro 9i from last year. Updates to it were minor and they didn't fix the port situation i.e. slower ports than 14, so I left it out
What is a good 16" laptop with a full-size standard keyboard, all ports in the right place, good hardware and screen, and good battery life? (I want the power of Asus Scar 16/18 with Acer Predator Helios 16 layout and Apple 2023 product durability and quality). I know it's still a dream. 😮💨
What did you think about new Zen Book 14 OLED with Intel Ultra 7? Is it as good as last year model?
Is it worth to buy?
Obs: I need a new notebook to work with SAP.
We have it here, review should be out late next week. We actually did the review 3 weeks ago but had to put the video on hold due to MASSIVE variations in performance. So hang tight, its going to be a wild ride
Also looking forward to this review want a light thin laptop with good battery life...light gaming and mainly for work
Can you do a review on Lenovo Thinkbook Plus Gen 5 Hybrid?
We need a review on omen 14 Josh pls make it fast can't wait for it
Already requested
My Robo & Kala with Snapdragon 8cx Gen 3 handles all of my casual use cases and 95% of my work as a .NET developer just fine with no fan noise, so I am eagerly awaiting Snapdragon X Elite devices later this year.
Hi josh, can you do best laptops for cs for this year please ?
I will be yes. Later in the year after more laptops come out. Please watch my Programming video for last year though. Alot of points there still apply.
I want that ASUS Duo keyboard for my Lenovo Yogo Book 9i dual screen. I absolutely love it (not my main laptop) but the keyboard needs a touchpad and backlighting.
When does the Framework 16 embargo lift? I'm really curious about that thing.
Very soon ;)
@@JustJoshTech very good 🙂
Hello Joshy, you hit it out of the park with this video. It's a pity if you didn't take the chance to film something substantial with Jarrod.
I always like your review videos for the bluntness (no holding back out of fear of backlash) and focus on practicality/usability (battery life, portability, heat on keyboard deck etc.) I had a slight worry before opening this video up, that it would just be another typical CES round-up like others do where they don't talk about any negatives. But you delivered perfectly again.
BTW do you think all the 2024 laptops using Meteor Lake Ultra Core CPUs are being made to use unswappable LPDDR5x due to pressure from Intel or maybe because it has some kind of synergy with the iGPU or AI stuff on the chip?
Thanks mate. Glad I could deliver. So Jarrod and I did have a nice breakfast together, but other than that we were both working so hard that we didn't have time to really sit down and do something more substantial unfortunately.
Re the soldered memory. I don't know but my guess is that thinner lighter laptops sell better.... but its a guess
The funny thing is Dell could have used CAMM to use LPDDR5x RAM and still made it swappable, but I think they just got greedy. Also, the managed to downgrade the storage of the XPS 16; the 2020 - 2023 XPS 15 & 17 both could take 2 SSDs; now they can only take one!
2:08 "Like blurring backgrounds on a Zoom call"
Shows a Teams call. Lol.
I'm really excited for the 2024 HP Spectre x360 2in1 14in. If it is as great as the specs make it seem it will be the best 2in1 of the year
Personally had to go with last years g14 (2023), the OLED screen trend i dont like it. I want to have a laptop with high end non OLED, so i dont need to worry about burn in.
I heard somewhere the X elite draws 80W of power? That's 4x what an M-series processor draws
Qualcomm demoed two configs. One at 80w and another at 23w TDP. Even the 23w (which could be passively cooled, like an iPad or MacBook Air) had a pretty awesome 2780/14000 Geekbench 6.2.
Also, keep in mind those are system TDP not CPU-only figures. The TDP of a 12-core M3 Pro only (CPU/GPU) is up to 30w.
I heard the new Asus G16 has really good speakers and its design is probably the best out of all the laptops this year. Thats the one im buying not sure what color is better, which one would you go for? White or black one
White looks alot better imo
*a lot@@JustJoshTech
@@JustJoshTech Thank you! couldnt decide based off the videos.
I'd take the G14 and G16 (specially the G16 with the OLED screen and the full SDCard reader) over the Dell XPS one every single day. The HP Omen is a solid second.
Josh, I commend your work. You're doing a fantastic job helping us making well informed decision.
Thank you
I really can’t wait for the Framework 16 laptop review! There are so many things they are doing right.
So eh.. when does the embargo lift? 🤓
By the end of the month afaik. I don't think Batch 1 units (which I am getting my unit in said batch) are shipping out until the end of the month.
Can wait too. I really wish them all the success. They are a very fresh and much needed wind on the laptop market.
Like always a wonderful video.I wonder why all brands are so hesitant to use newer ways of cooling, I have yet to see a laptop or even console use air-jet as a thinner and much more silent cooling option.
Waiting for a dedicated/comparative video on the XPS 13. I'm an academic so I'll go with a U i5 and that's all I need. As long as it does not turn into a mini heater while adobe, chrome and word have about 20 combined tabs, I'm fine with it.
it may, honestly knowing the 13 (not plus anymore), it ran very hot
@@Eman009 fucking heartache man. What a sexy looking device. So sad that its so useless.
@@abhinandanbanerjee5471 yeah i know i was planning on buying it but instead I just got the 2023 razer blade 14 for 1999.99. I know its overpriced but its a really good laptop. I picked up an amazon warranty because razer's warranty is terrible.
Are you sure you can deal with non physical function row on keyboard ?
@@mrbobgamingmemes9558 my girlfriend has a m1 macbook pro
Do you have plans on reviewing the Asus Rog Zephyrus G16?
Yes, absolutely. We should have it out Feb I'd imagine
@@JustJoshTech You haven't talked much about the G16 after the first sentence. Did you find it inferior to the G14 or not interesting enough to show it?
He mentioned that he's concerned about cooling for the G14 and I'm curious to see if the larger chassis of the G16 will alleviate that potential issue, depending on workloads with and without usage of the dGPU and the model of that dGPU. @@tinybit780
Is there any windows laptop I can get that can compete with a 14 inch m3 pro MacBook Pro and still have upgradable ram?
It needs to have a glossy display.
With a glossy display? Sorry. You're out of luck.
@@cameronbosch1213 The only one I've found is asus zenbook pro 14, I'll return my m3 pro as 18gb of ram is far too little, and I'll give the asus a go for a month, and then decide if ill stay with that or buy a higher specced macbook.
Hope U will have a review of new Samsung Book Pro 4, hp omen transcend 14 & ASUS Zenbook DUO🙌
Glossy screens being a trend and small arrows keys are two things that will always prevent me to buy these laptops. I think small laptops are going in the wrong direction and doesn't match anymore with needs of people. I could buy computers more often if manufacturers didn't fail so badly to build good and usable computers. It's becoming a treasure hunt to find a decent laptop for fair price, especially in Europe.
Framework?
@@cameronbosch1213 I checked their website and it is small arrow keys too. Framework is a good project and can match needs of lots of people but it has by design its own limitation. What if there is breakthrought in terms of termals or battery, and everything needs to be built differently ? Starting to 1600 or 1900 prebuildt for 16 inch seems expansive, considering that by design too the laptop is forced to be behind on lots of aspects.
Furthermore, I was speaking in general. There are bad trends since almost 5 or 6 years. All trends that are a customer regression are a bad trend. Laptops make more noise, have more heat, less ports, numpad are removed, small arrows keys that are not user friendly to use, speakers become garbage while they were all decents or very good 10 years ago, build problems on almost every high-end models, battery life that don't progress, glossy screens which is a pain to work with, etc.
Who are the people using small laptops in general ? It is students, people who move a lot, carry their laptop. These people need laptop with 10-12 hours battery, screen that could be discret with no annoying reflexion (in the library, classroom, train...), usable ports like hdmi to connect to a videoprojector to do a presentation, 2 jacks depending on the headset they have, no noise at all and no heat, numpad for productivity because trust me you write a lot of its when you are a student or work on excel, etc...
Considering the small size of the laptops, and that people who bought them are not especially richs, they should be in a 800-1700 range maximum too.