Im new to this , but today i went to our local Swapmeet, a spot where they buy pallets of stuff from Costco and Amazon, in one persons section, had a big table of everything for a $ 1.00. My dad just looking browsing spotted this Orange PI small box 🍊 , asked me about it what it was. I saw it was a PI , told him yes get it. Inside the PI was inside a casing. Looking at it inside with a flashlight 🔦, can see its Blue motherboard. Wonder if it works and if Great for Emulators.
Good comparison video. For my money I would go for the 8gb Version of the Orange Pi 5 plus, you get the 40 pin gpio the ability to add a wifi card and an NVMe and also an eMMC module. for about the same as a 8gb Raspberry Pi 5 with the adaptor board for the NVMe. Keep up the good work.
Orange Pi software sucks. You get a really good hardware for the price, at the same time you get buggy first-party software on which you need ro invest a lot of time to make it functional. I'd still stick no matter what to the RPi, because its software and support and community are big
Man. It can be powerful chip, basically a rocket in a pocket. But without software and firmware support and updates it's nothing. Imo raspi still leads in that matter
Another great comparrison. I want to start doing digital signage professionally and I plan on using the Emteria version of Android (which offers automation and fleet management) and they support the Rock 5B and the Pi5. Which would you choose if it were you. I'm just curious, not asking for professional consulting. I'm just curious... off the top of your head... what would you pic?
Totally personal opinion: Rock 5B. I just like having extra horse power and "overkill" even if I don't need it really. But RPI5 would definitely be more than enough for Emteria.
Hi, thank you so much for your sharing. I'm planning to build one for remote working. Do you think RPi is enough for 20-30 tabs of Chrome/Firefox, Visual Code & SSH running smoothly?
@@TechnicallyUnsure many thanks. I see a new board from Radxa: NIO 12L, which they said it's supported from Ubuntu. It maybe less painful for me to build a desktop
My Pi 5 booted from nvme right out of the box - I think the newer boards ship with the updated eeprom firmware. My Rock 5B on the other hand, required booting into maskrom or via serial, and then flashing the SPI with a new bootloader- definitely not for the faint of heart lol. And on Arace the radxa boards go on major sale sometimes. My 8GB 5B was only $99.
Hey there! First off, a huge thank you for your kind donation. Regarding HDMI 2.1, you've hit the nail on the head. At the moment, the standout benefits on boards equipped with HDMI 2.1 are indeed the capability for 8K video output and those silky-smooth high refresh rates. While it's true that eARC support isn't on the Linux radar just yet, making HDMI 2.1's audio enhancements a bit out of reach for now, the door's always open for future updates. So, who knows? We might see Linux embrace the full spectrum of HDMI 2.1 features down the line. But as of today, it will be just higher refresh rate and higher resolution outputs, that's pretty much it, as far as I know. Thanks again
@TechnicallyUnsure it's never going to be a reality as the HDMI forum has outright refused to work with AMD for the Driver support. So it will forever be a waste. Display port is your only option which none of these boards have. It's wasted money chasing that spec.
You are right. Although I haven't tried it yet, but Radxa claims that Rock 5A Pink, Rock 5A and Rock 5B does have DisplayPort capability through USB-C port. Maybe that helps?
I have an Orange Pi 5 plus 16gig now, max emmc it's fine. I have 2 Broken Orange Pi 5 nvme and I'm quite p**sed cause I contacted Orange Pi through email, all three lines on aliexpress, facebook even. EVERYTIME told NO WARRANTY, then AFTER 1 YEAR of having the, told there's a warranty, so I followed that up with PLEASE FIX my Zero 2W, and Zero 3 then since I got them far more recently. They stopped replying. In all honesty can someone direct me to somewhere to buy the 'special'QSPI'flash they are using, because it's non standard. It shorted? I guess. I had bought the 8GB first, then a 16GB, I mounted the 16 with the same ice tower cooler that he has, was using it one day, all fine. shut it down, unplugged it, put it in a box, and tucked it away. Next time going to use, no LED, no launch, nothing. Power is going from USB C to usb ports, and the GPIO, yet no led, no boot logic, and then I was trying to mount a SugarPi battery to the 8 down the road, negligence allowed me to put 5v into whatever pins are right across from the top outter pin, or the one beneath it, and shorted out, now it behaves identical to the 16 Gig. If anybody can help me figure out how to fix this I would S*** your ****. JK. FR though, I am so.... just... I don't have tons of cash to throw on these boards, to lose 340$ CAD (one had Customs charges) I want it fixed pretty bad. I would love to add 2 expensive boards back to my collection. Now I refuse to use a board without a case, and good idea of it's surroundings and incase the pins shorted. This is obvious not my first Orange pi that broke, I had an Orange Pi 1 that well honestly likely my fault so moving on, the Zero 2W 3 ceramic transistors..? whatever fell off. So just using board, its kinda crap but cheap excited, cheap becomes clear, falls off and now im practicing soldering for small things to practice removing what looks lke the right things from the one onto the zero 2W. The Zero 3 (they're the same but the 3 is legitimately more stable) the SD port just FELL OFF. right now, I;ve got 2 more Zero 3's a 3B, and a 5 plus, other than those, 4 boards are sitting here looking extremely fixable, but I need more info, but orange pi will not give me the info on the QSPI or where to buy, they refuse to sell me it. Switching to radxa, going to be buying a mix of 5B, 5ITX, 3B, 5C, 5C lite for TOPs, Zero 2 Pro for TOPs, and form factor, Zero 3W maybe, there's possibly an 8GB ram Z2Pro from radxa so I'm gonna prefer that, I was buying Libre Alta's, but they got lippy with me when I had to refuse a delivery because the customs officials doubled the cost. I'd have spent 50% on delivery,not hardware. Not interested in that, if I had it my way - money wise - I'd have a couple CM3588's NAS carriers tbh. and when the Orange Pi 5 plus wasn't THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS for a 32GB I would've bought 5 to cluster. 3 full size HDMI, gen 3 nvme, 2x usb 3, mipi dsi, usb c to hdmi out, one of the 3 fulls are capture in, and. It's great too with the dual RJ45's, I'd imagine grabbing a connector cable making a cluster should be just as easy as the mixtile blade3. EITHER WAY, seeing Orange Pi go from unique boards, and interestng qualities to identical form factor as Rpi makes me hate them, I'm happy they made 3 versions of Orange pi OS, OpiOS Droid is actually really nice. But they dont update anything, android for the zero 2W is still the broken 1.0 version is launched with, still radxa is on aliexpress now, so I can avoid arace.tech cause my god they suck, 5 months later I got my Milk V Duo's and expansions, by then I had lost interested, and just wanted a refund. please help fix the Opi5 nvme models. The QSPI gets hot really fast so must be messed up
oh and Rock 5 ITX has 4 SATA, LPDDR5 and the orange pi 5 pro has LPDDR5 but its junk, uses the RK3588s when the RK3588 or just adding LPDDR5 to the plus instead would be WAY better.
Also get a USB Hub for the Opi5 (I was using a 4 USB Hub velcroed to the side, SSD USB and display coming out of type C with a Type C splitter. Raspberry is overpriced as hell. the octa-core has the same cores as a Rpi 5 and an Rpi 4, and then it's got the NPU, and if someone would make a vulkan driver for linux it would just be playing 5 year old pc games. I had it playing lot's of steam games FOR LINUX, which theres not enough. Winlator is my hope.
HTTP.... ok it's sketchier they use google cloud to host all the OS, but theyre boards have been better than Rpi since the beginning because woah emmc on everybody for so long, woah nvme allowed for a while, diversity of CPU''s. The Orange Pi Zero 3 4GB vs Rasp Pi 4 - 4GB, Zero 3 wins. And why are you using Armbian? It sounds like you made life so much harder for yourself. iirc you don't have a ventoy USB eh
Idk about the Radxas but the Orange Pi software is sucky. If i had to choose between Orange Pi and Raspberry, I'd pay the extra money for the Raspberry, solely based on the software support and community
Really helpful video. I would like more information on bench-marking you tube playback.
Im new to this , but today i went to our local Swapmeet, a spot where they buy pallets of stuff from Costco and Amazon, in one persons section, had a big table of everything for a $ 1.00. My dad just looking browsing spotted this Orange PI small box 🍊 , asked me about it what it was. I saw it was a PI , told him yes get it. Inside the PI was inside a casing. Looking at it inside with a flashlight 🔦, can see its Blue motherboard. Wonder if it works and if Great for Emulators.
Great video 🔥
Good comparison video. For my money I would go for the 8gb Version of the Orange Pi 5 plus, you get the 40 pin gpio the ability to add a wifi card and an NVMe and also an eMMC module. for about the same as a 8gb Raspberry Pi 5 with the adaptor board for the NVMe. Keep up the good work.
Orange Pi software sucks. You get a really good hardware for the price, at the same time you get buggy first-party software on which you need ro invest a lot of time to make it functional. I'd still stick no matter what to the RPi, because its software and support and community are big
Man. It can be powerful chip, basically a rocket in a pocket. But without software and firmware support and updates it's nothing. Imo raspi still leads in that matter
Finally understand the difference between Rock 5B and Rock 5A!
Wish I had this resource when I first began.
Price comparison is helpful! Budget is always a big concern when choosing tech.
High-speed data transfers and gaming? SBCs are coming for the desktops now?
Definitely subscribing for more tech deep dives!💯
Loving this detailed comparison! Great work.
Congratulations. Very well explained 🙂
Another great comparrison. I want to start doing digital signage professionally and I plan on using the Emteria version of Android (which offers automation and fleet management) and they support the Rock 5B and the Pi5. Which would you choose if it were you. I'm just curious, not asking for professional consulting. I'm just curious... off the top of your head... what would you pic?
Totally personal opinion: Rock 5B. I just like having extra horse power and "overkill" even if I don't need it really. But RPI5 would definitely be more than enough for Emteria.
@@TechnicallyUnsure yeah I think I generally like to over-engineer things when I can so I'm with you on the 5B.
Your explanations are clear and concise!!👏👏
Thanks!
Appreciate your support, thank you!
Bookmarked for later! Need some time to process all these SBC options.
SBCs are the future! This video is making me want to build something amazing👌
Hi, thank you so much for your sharing. I'm planning to build one for remote working. Do you think RPi is enough for 20-30 tabs of Chrome/Firefox, Visual Code & SSH running smoothly?
Sure, I think yes, you should be OK coding and web surfing on an rpi 5
@@TechnicallyUnsure many thanks.
I see a new board from Radxa: NIO 12L, which they said it's supported from Ubuntu.
It maybe less painful for me to build a desktop
can anyone help me out my question is which is the best one out of these to use with windows 11 and a touch screen
My Pi 5 booted from nvme right out of the box - I think the newer boards ship with the updated eeprom firmware.
My Rock 5B on the other hand, required booting into maskrom or via serial, and then flashing the SPI with a new bootloader- definitely not for the faint of heart lol.
And on Arace the radxa boards go on major sale sometimes. My 8GB 5B was only $99.
Overclocking capabilities? Intriguing!
Need an SBC buying guide with a handy flowchart!
Linux does not support Full HDMI2.1 due to the HDMI foundation. So are you really getting anything better with HDMI2.1 on the board? Thanks!
Hey there! First off, a huge thank you for your kind donation. Regarding HDMI 2.1, you've hit the nail on the head. At the moment, the standout benefits on boards equipped with HDMI 2.1 are indeed the capability for 8K video output and those silky-smooth high refresh rates. While it's true that eARC support isn't on the Linux radar just yet, making HDMI 2.1's audio enhancements a bit out of reach for now, the door's always open for future updates. So, who knows? We might see Linux embrace the full spectrum of HDMI 2.1 features down the line. But as of today, it will be just higher refresh rate and higher resolution outputs, that's pretty much it, as far as I know. Thanks again
@TechnicallyUnsure it's never going to be a reality as the HDMI forum has outright refused to work with AMD for the Driver support. So it will forever be a waste. Display port is your only option which none of these boards have. It's wasted money chasing that spec.
You are right. Although I haven't tried it yet, but Radxa claims that Rock 5A Pink, Rock 5A and Rock 5B does have DisplayPort capability through USB-C port. Maybe that helps?
@@TechnicallyUnsure that might be the value right there. I think that would be worth the review.
Point taken, thanks for the idea. I will see what I can do with the DP port
I have an Orange Pi 5 plus 16gig now, max emmc it's fine. I have 2 Broken Orange Pi 5 nvme and I'm quite p**sed cause I contacted Orange Pi through email, all three lines on aliexpress, facebook even. EVERYTIME told NO WARRANTY, then AFTER 1 YEAR of having the, told there's a warranty, so I followed that up with PLEASE FIX my Zero 2W, and Zero 3 then since I got them far more recently. They stopped replying.
In all honesty can someone direct me to somewhere to buy the 'special'QSPI'flash they are using, because it's non standard. It shorted? I guess. I had bought the 8GB first, then a 16GB, I mounted the 16 with the same ice tower cooler that he has, was using it one day, all fine. shut it down, unplugged it, put it in a box, and tucked it away. Next time going to use, no LED, no launch, nothing. Power is going from USB C to usb ports, and the GPIO, yet no led, no boot logic, and then I was trying to mount a SugarPi battery to the 8 down the road, negligence allowed me to put 5v into whatever pins are right across from the top outter pin, or the one beneath it, and shorted out, now it behaves identical to the 16 Gig. If anybody can help me figure out how to fix this I would S*** your ****. JK. FR though, I am so.... just... I don't have tons of cash to throw on these boards, to lose 340$ CAD (one had Customs charges) I want it fixed pretty bad. I would love to add 2 expensive boards back to my collection. Now I refuse to use a board without a case, and good idea of it's surroundings and incase the pins shorted.
This is obvious not my first Orange pi that broke, I had an Orange Pi 1 that well honestly likely my fault so moving on, the Zero 2W 3 ceramic transistors..? whatever fell off. So just using board, its kinda crap but cheap excited, cheap becomes clear, falls off and now im practicing soldering for small things to practice removing what looks lke the right things from the one onto the zero 2W. The Zero 3 (they're the same but the 3 is legitimately more stable) the SD port just FELL OFF. right now, I;ve got 2 more Zero 3's a 3B, and a 5 plus, other than those, 4 boards are sitting here looking extremely fixable, but I need more info, but orange pi will not give me the info on the QSPI or where to buy, they refuse to sell me it.
Switching to radxa, going to be buying a mix of 5B, 5ITX, 3B, 5C, 5C lite for TOPs, Zero 2 Pro for TOPs, and form factor, Zero 3W maybe, there's possibly an 8GB ram Z2Pro from radxa so I'm gonna prefer that, I was buying Libre Alta's, but they got lippy with me when I had to refuse a delivery because the customs officials doubled the cost. I'd have spent 50% on delivery,not hardware. Not interested in that, if I had it my way - money wise - I'd have a couple CM3588's NAS carriers tbh. and when the Orange Pi 5 plus wasn't THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS for a 32GB I would've bought 5 to cluster. 3 full size HDMI, gen 3 nvme, 2x usb 3, mipi dsi, usb c to hdmi out, one of the 3 fulls are capture in, and. It's great too with the dual RJ45's, I'd imagine grabbing a connector cable making a cluster should be just as easy as the mixtile blade3. EITHER WAY, seeing Orange Pi go from unique boards, and interestng qualities to identical form factor as Rpi makes me hate them, I'm happy they made 3 versions of Orange pi OS, OpiOS Droid is actually really nice. But they dont update anything, android for the zero 2W is still the broken 1.0 version is launched with,
still radxa is on aliexpress now, so I can avoid arace.tech cause my god they suck, 5 months later I got my Milk V Duo's and expansions, by then I had lost interested, and just wanted a refund.
please help fix the Opi5 nvme models. The QSPI gets hot really fast so must be messed up
Can't decide between Raspberry Pi 5 and the Rock 5B...Decisions, decisions!
"Orange Pi roasting"
Brain overloaded with tech knowledge! But in a good way!
The future is here, and Technically Unsure is showing us the way.
**Feeling a little overwhelmed with all the tech specs... ** O:
oh and Rock 5 ITX has 4 SATA, LPDDR5 and the orange pi 5 pro has LPDDR5 but its junk, uses the RK3588s when the RK3588 or just adding LPDDR5 to the plus instead would be WAY better.
Also get a USB Hub for the Opi5 (I was using a 4 USB Hub velcroed to the side, SSD USB and display coming out of type C with a Type C splitter.
Raspberry is overpriced as hell. the octa-core has the same cores as a Rpi 5 and an Rpi 4, and then it's got the NPU, and if someone would make a vulkan driver for linux it would just be playing 5 year old pc games. I had it playing lot's of steam games FOR LINUX, which theres not enough. Winlator is my hope.
why do you people cry so hard over ssl? I do not get it. Just because you are lazy?
Lazy? It's about data security
HTTP.... ok it's sketchier they use google cloud to host all the OS, but theyre boards have been better than Rpi since the beginning because woah emmc on everybody for so long, woah nvme allowed for a while, diversity of CPU''s. The Orange Pi Zero 3 4GB vs Rasp Pi 4 - 4GB, Zero 3 wins.
And why are you using Armbian? It sounds like you made life so much harder for yourself.
iirc you don't have a ventoy USB eh
Idk about the Radxas but the Orange Pi software is sucky. If i had to choose between Orange Pi and Raspberry, I'd pay the extra money for the Raspberry, solely based on the software support and community
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