Just for your info, Greenwich is not outside London it is in central London where the big dome sits.... it is where the observatory is also located (so they can't see much now thanks to all the lights) and the Merridian line which designates 0 degree's and the GMT time zone. Obviously back in the day every town and city ran their own clocks and were all out of synchronization and so we fixed that issue and simultaneously put our self at the centre of the world. I have to say I am not a big fan of these world timers, though I did see a Patek World Time in the flesh the other week and it looked better than the photo's... to me I just find them a bit cluttered looking though and I don't think I would get much utility (when I used to travel I wore an Omega which had an hour hand that would jump an hour at a time when you set it so the minutes remained unchanged and I would always know the time back home just from remembering the time difference. They are an interesting complication though, especially the ones with the pusher. Regards...
My bad. I didn't realize that Greenwich is a borough of London. The Bronx of London! My son who lived in Brixton for several years while at LSE and Goldsmiths took me there and it seemed like a long way out of London, but now I know better. In any event, I went to the Greenwich Museum, and enjoyed it. World Timers are a trip...I had to add the Nomos (love it!) and the A. Lange .... will take a while to grow on me, but it is intriguing. Take care man, and thanks for straightening me out on Greenwich. Kindest regards, Bill
Hardly the Bronx it is quite upmarket really and very expensive since its a stones throw from Docklands (Canary Wharf office district) Worth noting unlike in the states where the rich and poor seem to try and keep far away from each other, here we have expensive mansions over the road from council estates and the area's of London are good/bad scattered almost randomly, which means you can be in a nice area one moment and walk down a side street and find yourself in a ghetto. Also Brixton is also in London, but London is so big that it probably felt that way... I mean I went to Paris and felt like I was in a small village (its about 10% the size of London) and to drive around the London ring road (M25) is 118 miles Keep doing what you're doing Bill. Thanks for the good content.
Unfortunately, you explained the functions of some of the watches wrong: The maps on the MB and the JLC are not for decoration, they correspond to the cities and therefor are projections form the North Pole. For the same reason you cannot set a reference city, London is always at 6 o clock. The map on the MB has a rotating overlay that actually darkens the map where is is night, which is super cool. The red and blue markings on the JLC is not about hemisphere but about + and - time zones and therefor about the date line. The Chopard and the JLC are the only Worldtimers shown that are really useful, because they have the markings for DST, which would otherwise mess up all readings. Breitling‘s worldtimer are also very well designed.
Hey Martin, thanks for those clarifications. I just took them from a naive user's view point in terms of what I'd actually use when doing world travel. Kindest regards, Bill
WatchArtSci Thanks for doing this list! I did research the available worldtimer last year, too. It’s a tricky complication that’s hard to get right (if it should really work and not just look good) because time zones are much more complicated then you think. From the watches shown the MB is coolest and the JLC the most functional. The VC looks best and the Patek is just a joke. Another strong contender is the Glasshütte Original Senator as it handles both DST and half hour time zones in a mechanical way. But in reality if have found that the watch I really use for worldtime purpose is a Vulcain Aviator. It has a city ring ring with 24h hour chapter ring and DST markings as a passive inner rotating bezel. No fancy mechanics at all, you have to turn it yourself. But you can use it for any time you want, not just your current time, so e.g. you want to schedule a conference call for tomorrow 2pm local - this watch will tell you date and time of all participants.
Hey Martin! Thanks again man! That additional information is very helpful, and I have to tell you-I'm a sucker for Vulcain! I was not aware that the Aviator was a world timer. Ever since my wife confiscated my Louis Vuitton Time Zone (...she does wear it better) I've been using my new Parmigiani Fleurier Tonda Hémisphères for a world timer even thought it's probably a GMT with d/n and date indicators. Cheers, Bill
Professor, a concise video for this type of watch complication. The LOUIS CHOPARD Traveler One is very special👌🏻✨I have a Journe orange 🍊 strap on, and believe me, what a difference.
Oh good....was worried about the LV Escale Time Zone. That's an interesting watch that I would not have paid any attention to were it not for your introduction! Very cool watch!! ...now that Louis Chopard Traveler One... Cheers, Bill
No Al, just what they decided on Seoul... also notice that they had 'Geneva' instead of 'Paris' in the Central European Summer Time zone. Take care, Bill
That Bovet is just plain stunning. I'll get one this saturday (if I win the lottery, haha!). Either that or the A Lange & Söhne ref. 116.039. Watch porn for sure! But that Mido is a good (AND afordable) deal and the version in steel is rather nice looking too.
Hey Lord David 4, you got me there. After buying the expensive Bovet, the Patek was out of my budget! You know what it's like ... you buy an expensive watch and then have eat Ramen noodles for the next 5 months. Cheers, Bill
Is shopwornwatches on eBay any good? There's a Bovet being auctioned off there. It seems like this seller puts a bunch of watches on auction and see how it goes.
Hi LD4. When dealing with dealers who post on Ebay, I always go to directly to the dealer's home site. If you go to shopworn.com instead of through Ebay, you have a better chance of finding out about the dealer. In the case of the Bovet, the Ebay bid is $5,900 right now, and the asking price at Shopworn.com is $26,900 on a watch priced originally at $46,000. On Ebay, I could enter a last second bid of $8,000 (for instance) and possibly get the watch. Since I've dealt with Shopworn before and know them (all positive), I wouldn't worry about getting screwed and have an incredible deal! Don't worry about the motive of the dealer: they're all in business to make money and clear inventory. In that process, think about YOU. From your knowledge, is that a good buy or not? Remember, if it's a good enough deal, there's always Ramen noodles on the menu for a year or so... Cheers, bill
Bill - I know little about what constitutes a "true" world-time movement. It would have been great if you could have covered this. I've heard many watches use GMT movements to mask as a world-time. Also - how are the 2892 and 2893 movements different than an in-house movement that is built as a real world-timer. I presume the ETA movements are using modular builds. Perhaps you can do a show on this sometime.
Hi Eugene, that's where the viewer sees the images, and I'm trying to look at the same images. Draw the attention away from my old mug and put it on the watches. Kindest regards, Bill
I had presumed maybe there was a shady character outside with ideas of grabbing yr Bovet. Haha Btw, it might be more comfortable if u can position the monitor to the front of where you are sitting.
honestly, it doesn't look like you are viewing the photo. It looks like you are being distracted. Better to look straight ahead on to the right as if the image is on an easel in front of you. But lots of good info. Thanks.
Hey Al, thanks man! That Bovet has so much presence that I think if I wore it, it would boss me around! What a watch! Glad you liked it. Kindest regards, Bill
Hey Bill- nice video. Nomos has an interesting GMT WT too. Closer to the Tissot you showed! Can’t wait to see the new toy! I’m still saving for “Dean” Watch but picked up a few vintage pieces that are fun.
Hey SP, you're right about the Nomos, and I just flat out forgot it. I'll see if I can get it into the Sunday video. Had a meeting with a GPHG judge this week, and I can recommend 1) FP Journe, 2) Bovet, 3) H. Moser et Cie, and 4) Parmigiani Fleurier. You can find great buys on all of those still. Cheers, Bill
HI, Thanks for the great list. Is there a world time watch that is 39mm or smaller that includes date function? I see Longines Master L2.631.4.70.3. However, are there others?
Yes, Ninja...they're called "World Timer" watches. Check these out-www.chrono24.com/search/index.htm?dosearch=true&gender=1401&maxAgeInDays=0&movementTypes=1&movementTypes=2&onlyDealerAds=false&pageSize=60&priceFrom=0&priceTo=-1&query=World+Timer&redirectToSearchIndex=true&sortorder=1&usedOrNew=new Take care, Bill
I own the 4810 Orbis Terrarum. The map on this watch is unique in that it is 2 separate sapphire disks. The top disc is the cutout of the earth as viewed from the northern hemisphere. The underneath disc rotates under the top disc to show you night/day throughout the northern hemisphere. I love this watch! The pusher is also very useful when you travel, as you can move the reference city to where you travel to the 6 o’clock position.
Great video Bill! One piece I would have loved to see you talk about is the ALS Lange1 Time Zone. This one is an absolute stunner and I've been thinking about getting a used one in platinum. My only gripe is that you can't really properly adjust it for day light savings time without other cities in the ring showing the incorrect time. Would that put you off pulling the plug on a purchase (given the hefty price) or something you could live with. Is this an issue with all world time watches?
Hi Alex, thanks man! I really dropped the ball on German WT watches. I had planned to include Nomos as well, and I just forgot, and somehow I missed the A. Lange & Söhne Time Zone. I did check out the Habring2 World Time, but they quit making them, and GO had some dual timers but no WT. I should squeeze in both Sunday. There are different ways the watchmakers deal DLST. Some have indications like *___Bloomfield or s___Bloomfield. That and the 1/2 hour offsets like Iran and India are all handled in awkward ways. Sometimes it's just best to use an app in your mobile phone... Cheers, Bill
@@watchartsci WatchArtSci GO has a worldtimer in their pilot collection. I dont know if they still make it but I almost bought it. so believe me, I know. Have seen it live.
I'm looking into the Dewitt Academia Hora Mundi Dual Time LE Automatic, NAC.HMI.001.RFB. But only found it new, without tags (shopworn). Was thinking it's a great price for Haute Horology? List $11,000, sale $4,600. Or a better choice for that price? And once again: GREAT AND INFORMATIVE video.
John, here's the problem: that particular Dewitt is running on an ETA 2892 and that would land you in Standard Horology at 4x what you could get a watch with a rubber band and an ETA 2892 in it. However, you've discovered "Shopworn.com" it looks like. For the same amount of money, you can get a Condition 0 Parmigiani Fleurier Kalpa Grande /XL . (They're high horology but not world timers.) Those Kalpas have a big 22k gold rotor. I saw 3 still available. One is like mine in blue (with a deployment strap) and the other two in more neutral colors. Offer $4k for any one of them, and you'll probably be able to get it. (Also, you'll get a gator strap instead of a rubber one.) Any one of those is Haute Horlogerie. I'll be interested to see what you do. If you still need a World Timer, let me know. Kindest regards, Bill
Thanks. I was waiting for Dewitt to get back to me, regarding the calibre. "DeWitt Automatic Manufactured Movement, 46 Jewels." I thought I may have found something. I'm not a big World Time fan, just thought that was a cool/different one. I'm actually looking for the 'best buy' Perpetual Calendar. You the man!
I too am pursuing a perpetual calendar. I like the H. Moser, but I also found some annual calendars I like from Roger Dubuis, but like most, it's too expensive for right now. Good hunting! Bill
The entire line of DeWitt Academia were ETA or ETA / Valjoux; however, that particular movement (DW 2021 / 2121) may not have been. I checked again at The Watch Enthusiast and all of that line (Academia) were identified as ETA-based watches. The ones with retrogrades were ETA / Agenhor (Agenhor being my very favorite movement makers!). I was unable to find anything more definitive on DeWitt movements, but if DeWitt told you that no ETA base was used in the DW2121 and it was 100% in-house ... that's what they told you. (Note that there's no exhibition window in the back.) Best of luck JD. Kindest regards, Bill
quick question.any watch styles or watch function good for tracking solar time? as a hobby i look around ancient time keeping, mostly with astrolabes, and been a pain converting civil time to solar.
Hey King R; I think what you want is a watch with Equation of Time. Here's an article you might like: quillandpad.com/2018/04/24/equation-of-time-what-is-it-and-whats-the-attraction-in-a-watch/ Take care, Bill
Congrats!!!! i was close but i gotta chill for a while, but think WT (leaning to not spend a lot on it so Montblanc/FC, are possibilities, but that jlc ;-) Bovet 1822 is a trip good summary got some great videos on that watch , amazing! Wondering what you went for ...hmmmm
Hey Richard!!...all will be revealed...Sunday! That Bovet ... love it...but I'll give you a hint: that's not the one I got! Like the Montblanc Star...a Grand Prix winner, no matter how humble, is good for a collection; especially at a price way below MSRP! I shouldn't collect watches...there're too many decisions! Cheers, Bill
From Japan: I got myself an Orient Star World Time (WZ0031JC). I like the way the complication is understated and includes also a Power Reserve complication. Very hard to find since it is not produced anymore. There are new versions, but they are not as elegant as mine, mostly in the sporty side: WZ0011JC and WZ0021JC. Thank you for the video!!
Hey Miguel, don't you hate it when that happens! You have a watch you really like and tell your friends about it only to find they've discontinued it! I saw a great world timer from Habring2 .... gone. Take care, man....Cheers, Bill
Bill, great video as always. On the Montblanc Star Worldtimer 106465 you stated the movement to be ETA 7753 based. This is not so. It is ETA 2893-2 based with a 21 jewel count. This information comes from Montblanc itself, as I purchased one, and disappointed by its performance, I researched it.
Hi Panos, thank you for finding that out, and I'm sorry to hear that it performed poorly. I'll update my notes on the Montblanc Star Worldtimer. Kindest regards, Bill
WatchArtSci I have not seen a montblanc watch in person.l think yes they would not hold there price if not. That said I even if I have money to buy a patek, there not my cup of tea, I probably get a V. Constantine or A. Lange and son's
Get a great watch after the price has dropped like a rock! Some of the best watches and best deals are with outstanding watches most collections don't have a clue about, like H. Moser & Cie. There's a H. Moser & Cie Henry Double Hairspring on Chrono24 for $8,500. It's new. Finding a double hairspring from Moser will be $32,000 and they'll only make 20 for the Swiss Alps model. A better watch than either Patek or Vacheron Constantin. Good hunting! Bill
Jonnie...that's where the watches are...it's to get the attention to the watches. Don't let it annoy you...look at the watches...not at me. Oh yeah...there's the stalker problem I have to watch out for too.... Cheers, Bill
Hi Lord David 4, that's interesting. What happened and how did you get your money back? Generally, there are so many trade restrictions between Russia and everyone else that it's very difficult buying a watch from them. Usually, all purchases are made through some other country that has no trade restrictions with Russia nor your country. On Chrono 24 the Russian sellers always tell you that you have to come to Russia to buy the offered watch. A couple of years ago I was in St. Petersburg, Russia, and I tried to buy a religious artifact for my sister and was told that I could buy it but could not take it out of the country. So while I'd like to buy from the Russians ( and everyone else for that matter), trade restrictions prevent it. Kindest regards, Bill
I filed a PayPal complaint that I had yet to receive the watch and got a refund. We're talking simple vintage Russian/Soviet Union here. For high end brands and pieces Russian sellers always say you need to be in Moscow (St Petersburg or wherever in Russia) in person to physically collect the watch and pay for it.
I had one Ebay deal for a Russian Vostok with an alarm for $35 + some shipping. The watch showed up exactly as advertised and worth what I paid for it, but the seller was not in Russia. It's a market I'm rarely in, but had to scratch the alarm itch, and for 35 bucks, more than worth it. So you did get a refund , though. That's great! Cheers, Bill
Gee Waldo...I don't shout at the camera and jump up and down, but tired and bored? You know, a lot of times, watch channels get started by smart guys who really can improve the content and interest level. RUclips is always looking for new channels to better communicate, and you just might be the guy to do it. So tell me about your watch collection and what watch topics you're interested in, and take some sample videos of yourself talking about watches and give it a try. Cheers, Bill
no offense intended, Bill. it was an objective appreciation that may be helpful for the next video. i have a large watch collection, particularly fed by Seikos and Citizen watches. i am not ready yet to make a clip on my babies. cheers Bill!
Hey Waldo! Here are a couple ideas; check out the latest video and see if it's better or worse ( ruclips.net/video/SrGAWKQkcdw/видео.html ) , and second, take a picture of each one of your watches and send them in for a collection review. I'm a fan of the early Seiko 5 and soon-to-be-retired Alpine. As for Citizen, they're doing some very interesting things. They have a new luxury model with a movement by La Joux-Perret (I forgot the model name). Also, in the latest video, the first watch brand discussed is one owned by Citizen. Let me know what you think. Cheers, Bill
@@watchartsci Hello Bill. I will send to you a few shots of my watches, so you could review. I mostly collect divers though. I recently got hold of the rare model SKZ329J1. This model is impossible to find. Do you have an email account you could share with me? Many thanks, Cheers! Waldo
Vacheron Constantin Overseas World time is $38,800 and $25,995 ? what the fuck! ... that's a lot of money for a wristwatch. Just get a gw5000 gshock for travel.
Fesal...it goes without saying that you should avoid getting watches that are beyond your budget...we all have to. (...avoid 'wtf' comments ... please.) Take care, Bill
On the JLC at 17:00 red cities are plus and blues are minus )
Thanks Alexander ... that makes sense. Take care and stay safe, Bill 😷
Just for your info, Greenwich is not outside London it is in central London where the big dome sits.... it is where the observatory is also located (so they can't see much now thanks to all the lights) and the Merridian line which designates 0 degree's and the GMT time zone. Obviously back in the day every town and city ran their own clocks and were all out of synchronization and so we fixed that issue and simultaneously put our self at the centre of the world. I have to say I am not a big fan of these world timers, though I did see a Patek World Time in the flesh the other week and it looked better than the photo's... to me I just find them a bit cluttered looking though and I don't think I would get much utility (when I used to travel I wore an Omega which had an hour hand that would jump an hour at a time when you set it so the minutes remained unchanged and I would always know the time back home just from remembering the time difference. They are an interesting complication though, especially the ones with the pusher. Regards...
My bad. I didn't realize that Greenwich is a borough of London. The Bronx of London! My son who lived in Brixton for several years while at LSE and Goldsmiths took me there and it seemed like a long way out of London, but now I know better. In any event, I went to the Greenwich Museum, and enjoyed it. World Timers are a trip...I had to add the Nomos (love it!) and the A. Lange .... will take a while to grow on me, but it is intriguing. Take care man, and thanks for straightening me out on Greenwich. Kindest regards, Bill
Hardly the Bronx it is quite upmarket really and very expensive since its a stones throw from Docklands (Canary Wharf office district) Worth noting unlike in the states where the rich and poor seem to try and keep far away from each other, here we have expensive mansions over the road from council estates and the area's of London are good/bad scattered almost randomly, which means you can be in a nice area one moment and walk down a side street and find yourself in a ghetto. Also Brixton is also in London, but London is so big that it probably felt that way... I mean I went to Paris and felt like I was in a small village (its about 10% the size of London) and to drive around the London ring road (M25) is 118 miles Keep doing what you're doing Bill. Thanks for the good content.
Thanks
Unfortunately, you explained the functions of some of the watches wrong: The maps on the MB and the JLC are not for decoration, they correspond to the cities and therefor are projections form the North Pole. For the same reason you cannot set a reference city, London is always at 6 o clock. The map on the MB has a rotating overlay that actually darkens the map where is is night, which is super cool. The red and blue markings on the JLC is not about hemisphere but about + and - time zones and therefor about the date line. The Chopard and the JLC are the only Worldtimers shown that are really useful, because they have the markings for DST, which would otherwise mess up all readings. Breitling‘s worldtimer are also very well designed.
Hey Martin, thanks for those clarifications. I just took them from a naive user's view point in terms of what I'd actually use when doing world travel. Kindest regards, Bill
WatchArtSci Thanks for doing this list! I did research the available worldtimer last year, too. It’s a tricky complication that’s hard to get right (if it should really work and not just look good) because time zones are much more complicated then you think. From the watches shown the MB is coolest and the JLC the most functional. The VC looks best and the Patek is just a joke.
Another strong contender is the Glasshütte Original Senator as it handles both DST and half hour time zones in a mechanical way.
But in reality if have found that the watch I really use for worldtime purpose is a Vulcain Aviator. It has a city ring ring with 24h hour chapter ring and DST markings as a passive inner rotating bezel. No fancy mechanics at all, you have to turn it yourself. But you can use it for any time you want, not just your current time, so e.g. you want to schedule a conference call for tomorrow 2pm local - this watch will tell you date and time of all participants.
Hey Martin! Thanks again man! That additional information is very helpful, and I have to tell you-I'm a sucker for Vulcain! I was not aware that the Aviator was a world timer. Ever since my wife confiscated my Louis Vuitton Time Zone (...she does wear it better) I've been using my new Parmigiani Fleurier Tonda Hémisphères for a world timer even thought it's probably a GMT with d/n and date indicators. Cheers, Bill
Professor, a concise video for this type of watch complication. The LOUIS CHOPARD Traveler One is very special👌🏻✨I have a Journe orange 🍊 strap on, and believe me, what a difference.
What about that Louis Vuitton Escale Time Zone? What a great idea Jaber, putting a Journe orange strap on the Chopard! Kindest regards, Bill
WatchArtSci I still have it ( The LV Escale). I also have the JLC Geophysic world time and the PATEK as well.
Oh good....was worried about the LV Escale Time Zone. That's an interesting watch that I would not have paid any attention to were it not for your introduction! Very cool watch!! ...now that Louis Chopard Traveler One... Cheers, Bill
Interesting that they have Seoul instead of Tokyo. Is this Mido a Korean market watch?
No Al, just what they decided on Seoul... also notice that they had 'Geneva' instead of 'Paris' in the Central European Summer Time zone. Take care, Bill
@@watchartsci interesting. i get the geneva reason but i'm wondering why seoul because i always see tokyo. must've been a reason.
In my mind..
Best looking world time watch is the montblanc .
Face is elegant
欢迎龚先生 ! Yes, the Montblanc is a very good looking watch and easy to read. 谢谢 Bill
That Bovet is just plain stunning. I'll get one this saturday (if I win the lottery, haha!).
Either that or the A Lange & Söhne ref. 116.039.
Watch porn for sure!
But that Mido is a good (AND afordable) deal and the version in steel is rather nice looking too.
Isn't that Bovet a trip? I really like the Montblanc Star as one of the most affordable Grand Prix winners and the Mido! Cheers, Bill
Great video interesting high end pieces The JLC is alot of watch not outrageous $ good looking also
Thanks Dominick. Yes, JLC delivers a lot of watch for the money! Take care, Bill
My favorite Worldtimer is the JLC Master Geographic
I don't blame you MM ... a much undervalued watch! Take care and be safe, Bill 😷
Says the Patek is out of his budget range, buys a more expensive Bovet. :D
Hey Lord David 4, you got me there. After buying the expensive Bovet, the Patek was out of my budget! You know what it's like ... you buy an expensive watch and then have eat Ramen noodles for the next 5 months. Cheers, Bill
Is shopwornwatches on eBay any good? There's a Bovet being auctioned off there. It seems like this seller puts a bunch of watches on auction and see how it goes.
Hi LD4. When dealing with dealers who post on Ebay, I always go to directly to the dealer's home site. If you go to shopworn.com instead of through Ebay, you have a better chance of finding out about the dealer. In the case of the Bovet, the Ebay bid is $5,900 right now, and the asking price at Shopworn.com is $26,900 on a watch priced originally at $46,000. On Ebay, I could enter a last second bid of $8,000 (for instance) and possibly get the watch. Since I've dealt with Shopworn before and know them (all positive), I wouldn't worry about getting screwed and have an incredible deal! Don't worry about the motive of the dealer: they're all in business to make money and clear inventory. In that process, think about YOU. From your knowledge, is that a good buy or not? Remember, if it's a good enough deal, there's always Ramen noodles on the menu for a year or so... Cheers, bill
Bill - I know little about what constitutes a "true" world-time movement. It would have been great if you could have covered this. I've heard many watches use GMT movements to mask as a world-time. Also - how are the 2892 and 2893 movements different than an in-house movement that is built as a real world-timer. I presume the ETA movements are using modular builds. Perhaps you can do a show on this sometime.
I'll put it on the list of what subscribers would like to see, Paul. Kindest regards, Bill
Just wondering why do u turn to look on your right from time time. Wouldn't it be better if whatever u need to check be relocated to the front?
Hi Eugene, that's where the viewer sees the images, and I'm trying to look at the same images. Draw the attention away from my old mug and put it on the watches. Kindest regards, Bill
I had presumed maybe there was a shady character outside with ideas of grabbing yr Bovet. Haha
Btw, it might be more comfortable if u can position the monitor to the front of where you are sitting.
Better not grab my Bovet!! Ok, I'll check the monitor position! Cheers, Bill
honestly, it doesn't look like you are viewing the photo. It looks like you are being distracted. Better to look straight ahead on to the right as if the image is on an easel in front of you. But lots of good info. Thanks.
Excellent review Bill
Hey Reza! Thanks, man! Cheers, Bill
Great video. That Bovet, really cool watch (definitely my favourite)
Hey Al, thanks man! That Bovet has so much presence that I think if I wore it, it would boss me around! What a watch! Glad you liked it. Kindest regards, Bill
Nice shirt :-)
No Erik, you cannot borrow my shirt....
Hey Bill- nice video. Nomos has an interesting GMT WT too. Closer to the Tissot you showed! Can’t wait to see the new toy! I’m still saving for “Dean” Watch but picked up a few vintage pieces that are fun.
Hey SP, you're right about the Nomos, and I just flat out forgot it. I'll see if I can get it into the Sunday video. Had a meeting with a GPHG judge this week, and I can recommend 1) FP Journe, 2) Bovet, 3) H. Moser et Cie, and 4) Parmigiani Fleurier. You can find great buys on all of those still. Cheers, Bill
HI, Thanks for the great list. Is there a world time watch that is 39mm or smaller that includes date function? I see Longines Master L2.631.4.70.3. However, are there others?
Nice review!
Hi Maximus! Thanks man! Kindest regards, Bill
Great Video👏👏👏
Hey Andrei, thanks man! Kindest regards, Bill
Great summary video! Thanks Bill! That Bovet is unbelievable 😂
Hey Fernando! Thanks man! That Bovet is a trip ... I don't think I could wear that watch and drive! I'd hit a tree! Cheers, Bill
Amazing video bill! I loved the breadth and flow! Well done 👍🏻
Hey Fayssal, thanks ma! Let me know what your think about the follow-up video in #118 too! Great to hear from you! Kindest regards, Bill
WatchArtSci I saw it and I liked it as well! It’s a cool watch regardless of the ETA. If it wasn’t for the horogical gods I would consider the FC
Are there other watches that have a map like the montblanc?
Yes, Ninja...they're called "World Timer" watches. Check these out-www.chrono24.com/search/index.htm?dosearch=true&gender=1401&maxAgeInDays=0&movementTypes=1&movementTypes=2&onlyDealerAds=false&pageSize=60&priceFrom=0&priceTo=-1&query=World+Timer&redirectToSearchIndex=true&sortorder=1&usedOrNew=new Take care, Bill
I own the 4810 Orbis Terrarum. The map on this watch is unique in that it is 2 separate sapphire disks. The top disc is the cutout of the earth as viewed from the northern hemisphere. The underneath disc rotates under the top disc to show you night/day throughout the northern hemisphere. I love this watch! The pusher is also very useful when you travel, as you can move the reference city to where you travel to the 6 o’clock position.
Great video Bill! One piece I would have loved to see you talk about is the ALS Lange1 Time Zone. This one is an absolute stunner and I've been thinking about getting a used one in platinum. My only gripe is that you can't really properly adjust it for day light savings time without other cities in the ring showing the incorrect time. Would that put you off pulling the plug on a purchase (given the hefty price) or something you could live with. Is this an issue with all world time watches?
Hi Alex, thanks man! I really dropped the ball on German WT watches. I had planned to include Nomos as well, and I just forgot, and somehow I missed the A. Lange & Söhne Time Zone. I did check out the Habring2 World Time, but they quit making them, and GO had some dual timers but no WT. I should squeeze in both Sunday. There are different ways the watchmakers deal DLST. Some have indications like *___Bloomfield or s___Bloomfield. That and the 1/2 hour offsets like Iran and India are all handled in awkward ways. Sometimes it's just best to use an app in your mobile phone... Cheers, Bill
@@watchartsci WatchArtSci GO has a worldtimer in their pilot collection. I dont know if they still make it but I almost bought it. so believe me, I know. Have seen it live.
I'm looking into the Dewitt Academia Hora Mundi Dual Time LE Automatic, NAC.HMI.001.RFB. But only found it new, without tags (shopworn). Was thinking it's a great price for Haute Horology? List $11,000, sale $4,600. Or a better choice for that price? And once again: GREAT AND INFORMATIVE video.
John, here's the problem: that particular Dewitt is running on an ETA 2892 and that would land you in Standard Horology at 4x what you could get a watch with a rubber band and an ETA 2892 in it. However, you've discovered "Shopworn.com" it looks like. For the same amount of money, you can get a Condition 0 Parmigiani Fleurier Kalpa Grande /XL . (They're high horology but not world timers.) Those Kalpas have a big 22k gold rotor. I saw 3 still available. One is like mine in blue (with a deployment strap) and the other two in more neutral colors. Offer $4k for any one of them, and you'll probably be able to get it. (Also, you'll get a gator strap instead of a rubber one.) Any one of those is Haute Horlogerie. I'll be interested to see what you do. If you still need a World Timer, let me know. Kindest regards, Bill
Thanks. I was waiting for Dewitt to get back to me, regarding the calibre. "DeWitt Automatic Manufactured Movement, 46 Jewels." I thought I may have found something. I'm not a big World Time fan, just thought that was a cool/different one. I'm actually looking for the 'best buy' Perpetual Calendar. You the man!
I too am pursuing a perpetual calendar. I like the H. Moser, but I also found some annual calendars I like from Roger Dubuis, but like most, it's too expensive for right now. Good hunting! Bill
Dewitt finally relied and stated: "100% in house movement". What was your source that states it's an ETA 2892? Just want to make sure!!!
The entire line of DeWitt Academia were ETA or ETA / Valjoux; however, that particular movement (DW 2021 / 2121) may not have been. I checked again at The Watch Enthusiast and all of that line (Academia) were identified as ETA-based watches. The ones with retrogrades were ETA / Agenhor (Agenhor being my very favorite movement makers!). I was unable to find anything more definitive on DeWitt movements, but if DeWitt told you that no ETA base was used in the DW2121 and it was 100% in-house ... that's what they told you. (Note that there's no exhibition window in the back.) Best of luck JD. Kindest regards, Bill
quick question.any watch styles or watch function good for tracking solar time? as a hobby i look around ancient time keeping, mostly with astrolabes, and been a pain converting civil time to solar.
Hey King R; I think what you want is a watch with Equation of Time. Here's an article you might like: quillandpad.com/2018/04/24/equation-of-time-what-is-it-and-whats-the-attraction-in-a-watch/ Take care, Bill
@@watchartsci Thank you very much.
Congrats!!!! i was close but i gotta chill for a while, but think WT (leaning to not spend a lot on it so Montblanc/FC, are possibilities, but that jlc ;-) Bovet 1822 is a trip good summary got some great videos on that watch , amazing! Wondering what you went for ...hmmmm
Hey Richard!!...all will be revealed...Sunday! That Bovet ... love it...but I'll give you a hint: that's not the one I got! Like the Montblanc Star...a Grand Prix winner, no matter how humble, is good for a collection; especially at a price way below MSRP! I shouldn't collect watches...there're too many decisions! Cheers, Bill
From Japan: I got myself an Orient Star World Time (WZ0031JC). I like the way the complication is understated and includes also a Power Reserve complication. Very hard to find since it is not produced anymore. There are new versions, but they are not as elegant as mine, mostly in the sporty side: WZ0011JC and WZ0021JC. Thank you for the video!!
Hey Miguel, don't you hate it when that happens! You have a watch you really like and tell your friends about it only to find they've discontinued it! I saw a great world timer from Habring2 .... gone. Take care, man....Cheers, Bill
Bill, great video as always. On the Montblanc Star Worldtimer 106465 you stated the movement to be ETA 7753 based. This is not so. It is ETA 2893-2 based with a 21 jewel count. This information comes from Montblanc itself, as I purchased one, and disappointed by its performance, I researched it.
Hi Panos, thank you for finding that out, and I'm sorry to hear that it performed poorly. I'll update my notes on the Montblanc Star Worldtimer. Kindest regards, Bill
Why are you disappointed by the performance?
Great video, I have a hamilton world timer that is nice and not costly :)
That Hamilton with crowns at 3 and 9 o'clock is very cool. Nice clean watch. Kindest regards, Bill
That montblanc looks just like patek s world time.
Hi Vladimir! I guess the question would be, "Is the huge difference in price worth it?" What do you think? Kindest regards, Bill
WatchArtSci I have not seen a montblanc watch in person.l think yes they would not hold there price if not. That said I even if I have money to buy a patek, there not my cup of tea, I probably get a V. Constantine or A. Lange and son's
Get a great watch after the price has dropped like a rock! Some of the best watches and best deals are with outstanding watches most collections don't have a clue about, like H. Moser & Cie. There's a H. Moser & Cie Henry Double Hairspring on Chrono24 for $8,500. It's new. Finding a double hairspring from Moser will be $32,000 and they'll only make 20 for the Swiss Alps model. A better watch than either Patek or Vacheron Constantin. Good hunting! Bill
cant wait to watch the unboxing !!!! :)
....soon enough!
Why are you constantly glancing to the right...was there a stalker outside the window or something...it's very annoying.
Jonnie...that's where the watches are...it's to get the attention to the watches. Don't let it annoy you...look at the watches...not at me. Oh yeah...there's the stalker problem I have to watch out for too.... Cheers, Bill
I've noticed it in most of your videos...just a bit distracting is all. I'll take your advice and keep my gaze fixed on the watches.
Whatever you do, don't get tempted at the Raketa on Russian-Watches.info I ordered one, never came. Got my money back though.
Hi Lord David 4, that's interesting. What happened and how did you get your money back? Generally, there are so many trade restrictions between Russia and everyone else that it's very difficult buying a watch from them. Usually, all purchases are made through some other country that has no trade restrictions with Russia nor your country. On Chrono 24 the Russian sellers always tell you that you have to come to Russia to buy the offered watch. A couple of years ago I was in St. Petersburg, Russia, and I tried to buy a religious artifact for my sister and was told that I could buy it but could not take it out of the country. So while I'd like to buy from the Russians ( and everyone else for that matter), trade restrictions prevent it. Kindest regards, Bill
I filed a PayPal complaint that I had yet to receive the watch and got a refund. We're talking simple vintage Russian/Soviet Union here. For high end brands and pieces Russian sellers always say you need to be in Moscow (St Petersburg or wherever in Russia) in person to physically collect the watch and pay for it.
I had one Ebay deal for a Russian Vostok with an alarm for $35 + some shipping. The watch showed up exactly as advertised and worth what I paid for it, but the seller was not in Russia. It's a market I'm rarely in, but had to scratch the alarm itch, and for 35 bucks, more than worth it. So you did get a refund , though. That's great! Cheers, Bill
I just scored a deal for a 1967 Seiko World Time 6217 7010. What do you think about the watch? I'd appreciate a reply, thanks!
So tell us about it T&T. That one is very interesting and holds somewhat of a historical position at both Seiko and among automatic world timers.
awful explanation. the speaker looks tired and bored and the exposition lacks motion and energy.
Gee Waldo...I don't shout at the camera and jump up and down, but tired and bored? You know, a lot of times, watch channels get started by smart guys who really can improve the content and interest level. RUclips is always looking for new channels to better communicate, and you just might be the guy to do it. So tell me about your watch collection and what watch topics you're interested in, and take some sample videos of yourself talking about watches and give it a try. Cheers, Bill
no offense intended, Bill. it was an objective appreciation that may be helpful for the next video. i have a large watch collection, particularly fed by Seikos and Citizen watches. i am not ready yet to make a clip on my babies. cheers Bill!
Hey Waldo! Here are a couple ideas; check out the latest video and see if it's better or worse ( ruclips.net/video/SrGAWKQkcdw/видео.html ) , and second, take a picture of each one of your watches and send them in for a collection review. I'm a fan of the early Seiko 5 and soon-to-be-retired Alpine. As for Citizen, they're doing some very interesting things. They have a new luxury model with a movement by La Joux-Perret (I forgot the model name). Also, in the latest video, the first watch brand discussed is one owned by Citizen. Let me know what you think. Cheers, Bill
WatchArtSci wheres waldo's channel?
@@watchartsci Hello Bill. I will send to you a few shots of my watches, so you could review. I mostly collect divers though. I recently got hold of the rare model SKZ329J1. This model is impossible to find. Do you have an email account you could share with me? Many thanks, Cheers! Waldo
Vacheron Constantin Overseas World time is $38,800 and $25,995 ? what the fuck! ... that's a lot of money for a wristwatch. Just get a gw5000 gshock for travel.
Fesal...it goes without saying that you should avoid getting watches that are beyond your budget...we all have to. (...avoid 'wtf' comments ... please.) Take care, Bill