Maybe Mercedes should take some notes considering the exhaust sound of the new A45. The engine sounds decent enough but the exhaust is pathetic on that car.
Yessss! Ich wollte mich nach den ersten 100 km schon beschweren über den SOUND aber was da jetzt nach über 10.000 km während der Fahrt und im Kaltstart and Sound rauskommt ist je nach Umfeld sogar schon manchmal zu viel und nicht immer Gesellschaftstauglich😅😇
R8 received a baritone, which is kinda nice than the previous, but I dislike how you can hear those valves switching in the exhaust. TT RS remained the same, but slicing through air a bit.
Thanks for this video, I had written of the R8 as unsalvageable, from a sound perspective. No backfires = no R8. Now that thing is on my list again, nothing easier than „fixing“ those valve issues and maybe getting an exhaust.
Der R8 ist & bleibt, ein Meisterwerk in allen Aspekten Bin im positiven natürlich etwas neidisch auf so ein Auto, aber gönne es dir selbstverständlich :) Allzeit adrenalinreiche Fahrten gewünscht aus Magdeburg
5 cylinders is amazing! looking forward to see the RS3 2020, I hope the sound is good despite of the new regulations! R8 still reman the Queen with his V10
@@xDigitalcrack Don't say bullshit. Audi OFFICIALLY said they will keep making the five cylinder engine and just make it compatible with newest EURO norms.
Since the valves are opening/closing at lower revs to meet regulations, getting an exhaust valve module which keeps the valves open throughout the entire rev range should fix this issue (to an extent). Obviously OPF doesn't help, but you could get around that with a more free flowing backbox or some sports CATs.
Yepp, fully agree. The effect of the closing valves at town speeds is most influencing the sound of these modern cars, the OPF itself has lower impact on loudness, more on power delivery.
@@Automann-TV Exactly . Plus the sound on video is only ever a small fraction of what you hear and feel in person, so really they still sound pretty good.
Very very interesting. You made the video directly on my daily testing street for customers cars. Very interesting. It is about 200 meters away from my workshop....Nextime you should come in an say hallo.... :) This is Jan, ctk Kiel, chiptuning development since 1996 as an engineer.....
ASR Klappensteuerung rein und das Problem ist gelöst. Hatte ich auch bei meinem RS3 VFL. Das Video beschreibt ja genau diese Problematik welches damit gelöst werden kann. Die Pops klingen geil, aber sind absolut verzichtbar. Aus dem Alter bin ich raus 😂
I understand the new DB regulations and the opf filters etc, get an exhaust if you want your car louder. BUT can you remove the Rev limiter while standstill/ revving? That one really annoys me somehow :/
The Bosch MED 9 ECU has been cracked by quite a few companies now. Yes it can and has been disabled. That is a annoying feature for sure. "Check out my 600+hp monster RS6 Avant! It's so badass."- Owner "Cool, rev it up"- Dumb Kid "Nah, that's okay"- Shamed Owner
Brian Jewell hahah yeah that would exactly be the case.. but okay what a relief then! Even though I’m not even close of owning such a nice car it’s still nice to know it’s possible!
Audi has killed it with the facelift on the R8. My RS5 sounds like a Vespa compared to these beasts. Those are my favorite two current Audi engines. The 4.0 twin turbo V8 sounds nice but these just sing. Filter situation easy to fix with an exhaust 😋
Just get a manually controlled unit for the valves so you can choose when to open and close the valves by yourself. That solves at least part of the problem.
Automann, you have driven both versions of TTRS/RS3, with OPF and without, what is your personal opinion? Is there a big difference at higher rpms or just a decent?
Yes we have as we owned a MY18 RS3 and now a MY20 TTRS. There is a difference of course but mostly at standstill & townspeeds. Once you accelerate hard at higher speeds the new one still sounds very similar to the old. Best is if you watch this video and compare it to our latest RS3 video.
OPF is a special filter for gasoline cars to reduce the emissions of small particles (similar like with diesel cars). The OPF is not the main reason why cars are quieter but the new (and lower) dB regulations the manufacturers have to meet. So even without OPFs (like Huracan EVO) they still need to be quieter. You can remove it but it’s illegal and like removing the cat;)
Automann-TV thank you for the clear and detailed information. So in short, a new exhaust is a must for all new cars! I wonder how easy it is to remove the OPF too. Noise regulations i get, but it’s sad that the cars have to be restricted this way! This is very worrying. Where does it end.
@@swb7161 They just explained that removing the OPF is as illegal as a cat delete. In most EU regions your car will be seized if you are busted, or not approved by yearly technical examinations (unless you know someone who can just tick all the boxes for you). Then again, why worry? Get a pre-OPF car, and you won't have any issues with regulations as you can't change anything about the loudness of older cars. It's just newer cars that are going to be regulated. It's also a financially less burdening option to buy a somewhat as good as new second-hand performance car. ;)
@@AbdelOO7 didn't realise you were the police ;) who cares about that. I have a secondary cat delete on my M4 comp and hopefully the same with the GT3 with the new exhaust system. It is fine and most MOT dealerships will be understanding. I don't think these things will change. Live a little, enjoy motorsport.
@@swb7161 who says anything about me being the police? Clearly even gave you a better suggestion. I don't know what country you are from, but in the Netherlands they are very strict when it comes to cars (and expensive tax wise). What you do or how do you it, is entirely up to you and frankly I do not care. It's just a word of advice, you can do with it what you want. And concerning enjoying "motorsports": people can enjoy many things in different ways.
Hallo Automann, soweit ich mich informiert habe, lässt der Rev Limiter den R8 nicht über 3000u/min im Stand drehen und dabei sind die Abgasklappen zu. Ich habe allerdings im Audi Konfigurator ein 3-Speichen Lenkrad gefunden welches den alt bekannt Abgasklappen Knopf unter dem roten Start Knopf hat. Nun zu meiner Frage. Ist es mit diesen Knopf doch möglich im Stand die Abgasklappen zu öffnen? Oder wofür sollte dieser Knopf gut sein, wenn das Auto angeblich alles nur noch selbst regelt?
John Jerrehian ...A6 is still a great car - and you never know, the unexpected might happen and you will find an R8 coming into your garage. God nytt år!
ich bin stellenweise echt froh dass das Standgepröttel und Geknalle halbstarker Schwachmaten eingeschränkt wird. Sportlich genug in der Kabine und bei schneller Fahrt klingen die Autos alle noch. Helden der Eisdiele und roten Ampel heulen natürlich nun :)
Richtig. Show-Off im Stand und im Bereich 40-80 km/h ist stark eingeschränkt, aber außerhalb dessen klingen die Dinger immer noch extremst gut und für viele Passanten schon fast zu gut😛😇
who does this regulation impact? I would assume merc and bmw yet i only see this sound limitations on audi. Has anyone else had to do something along these lines?
Für einen Autoliebhaber ist diese Zeit echt grauenhaft. Das perfide dabei ist, dass diese ganzen Beschlüsse sich kaum auf die Umwelt auswirken und es sich am Ende nur um das Liebe Geld dreht. Für mich ist das Thema Umwelt, Nachhaltigkeit und globale Erwärmung ein Kondratieff-Zyklus der Neuzeit.
But as said, more because of the new (and lower) dB regulations than because of the OPF itself. And those regulations are mainly at standstill & up to 70/80 km/h....all above is still similar.
@@Automann-TV db levels are a measure of loudness, not the tone of the what comes out of the exhaust. Tone wise, the OPF cars clearly appear to suffer.
Would not agree for all cars as the new ones tend to sound deeper! Something which is hard transport on camera but very pleasant at real life...makes people turn their head long before they see the car.
Two of the most special engines from Audi
i think that the V10 is from Lamborghini.
Hai Fisch no is not from lambo audi make the engine and lambo use it to in the huracan
@@nebystanko ah ok, thanks for the info.
They ARE the 2 most special.
@@alengreen589 its from vw
They look so menacing and sound insane of course!
Stunning cars from Audi!
Audi just makes the best looking cars in the world. So sexy but mean at the same time. Soon as those revs hit the high notes, i get the chills
Nikola Milovanovic See your point my friend! Love this manufacturer!
@@airnidzo Yeeah the green tt is badass 😍
Now we realize how good audi is making their cars sound with opf. Just listen to the new merces they sound trash
Kudos to Audi for making their cars sound amazing despite the new regulations! TT RS and R8 V10 are one of the best sounding performance cars on sale!
Marcel Lukačić Rs3 and Rsq3 too
Maybe Mercedes should take some notes considering the exhaust sound of the new A45. The engine sounds decent enough but the exhaust is pathetic on that car.
GT2 RS..
@@yoojastle2099 I said A45.
lolo1997apfel F-type R and SVR.......
Sounds still absolutely amazing, Audi is absolutley awesome! But the EU is ruining our car industry and awesome car engineering...
LuXoR Agreed.
LuXoR amen
More like made engineers push themselves further :) but fuck sound regulation
I wander how long it will take until the EU forbids petrol engines (aka ruins its for us)? 5 years, 10 years? What you guys think?
James23031976 I don’t think it will be that soon, but I definitely believe petrol will phase out in the far future, maybe 20-30 years from now
crazy what adding 1 more cylinder to a 4 cylinder does to the exhaust sound
Nothing a miltek exhaust can't change, that ttrs is gorgeous
Milltek sounds terrible, just change down and mid pipe, keep stock sport exhaust...-RS3 owner
Beide Autos hören sich (immer noch - trotz OPF) absolut genial an! Traumautos...
Der R8 klingt immer noch verdammt gut!
Yessss! Ich wollte mich nach den ersten 100 km schon beschweren über den SOUND aber was da jetzt nach über 10.000 km während der Fahrt und im Kaltstart and Sound rauskommt ist je nach Umfeld sogar schon manchmal zu viel und nicht immer Gesellschaftstauglich😅😇
Automann-TV So muss das
@@TheCrystalLakeKiller finde "lächerlich" bisschen übertrieben 😂 er ist immernoch laut, natürlich etwas leiser, aber definitiv gut
@@Automann-TV Echt schade, dass beide Modelle eingestellt werden sollen.
@@TheCrystalLakeKiller immernich zu laut
Klingen immer noch ganz gut aber kein Vergleich zu den älteren Modellen ohne OPF.
Einfach nur traurig :(
Da isn der opf jammerlappen
@Stefan die Autos klingen sehr gut, nur das Knallen fehlt bei dem 5 Zylinder mit OPF, ich brauche das persönlich nicht, ihr OPF-Jammerlappen :D
Schmeiss einfach raus den müll wir haben bei uns einen r8 performance von btm ohne opf der klingt wie ein alter richtig geil
love the colour of the TTRS
R8 received a baritone, which is kinda nice than the previous, but I dislike how you can hear those valves switching in the exhaust. TT RS remained the same, but slicing through air a bit.
That v10 sound is just music to my ears
Thanks for this video, I had written of the R8 as unsalvageable, from a sound perspective. No backfires = no R8. Now that thing is on my list again, nothing easier than „fixing“ those valve issues and maybe getting an exhaust.
Der R8 ist & bleibt, ein Meisterwerk in allen Aspekten
Bin im positiven natürlich etwas neidisch auf so ein Auto, aber gönne es dir selbstverständlich :)
Allzeit adrenalinreiche Fahrten gewünscht aus Magdeburg
Danke und Grüße🙏😬
schade dass er eingestellt wird..
5 cylinders is amazing! looking forward to see the RS3 2020, I hope the sound is good despite of the new regulations! R8 still reman the Queen with his V10
The 2020 will be 4 cylinder beefed up s3 engine, already confirmed my dude
@@xDigitalcrack by Audi??
xDigitalcrack no way😢
@@xDigitalcrack I heard that the engine will be a 5 cylinders.. I can't imagine the RS3 without his traditional engine..
@@xDigitalcrack Don't say bullshit. Audi OFFICIALLY said they will keep making the five cylinder engine and just make it compatible with newest EURO norms.
Great video. I like how there was lots of 5 cylinder engine sounds, 10 cylinder sounds, and not much talking 😎😎👍👍
The sound of these are monstrous!! Also... Why do these roads look so CLEAN ? 🤗🤗 @4:34
aww, Baby R8 and R8!!
Wow the TT sound
For me the TTRS sounds a bit better, but still both are insane 😍
R8 IS AMAZING... GOD
Since the valves are opening/closing at lower revs to meet regulations, getting an exhaust valve module which keeps the valves open throughout the entire rev range should fix this issue (to an extent). Obviously OPF doesn't help, but you could get around that with a more free flowing backbox or some sports CATs.
Yepp, fully agree. The effect of the closing valves at town speeds is most influencing the sound of these modern cars, the OPF itself has lower impact on loudness, more on power delivery.
@@Automann-TV Exactly . Plus the sound on video is only ever a small fraction of what you hear and feel in person, so really they still sound pretty good.
But what about the pops and bangs that had disappeared compared from the exhaust? Is that mainly due to OPF?
Daniel Sadjadian or you could just meet the regulations and stop bugging people with your stupid loud cars.
@@frederickt6052 not at all, its a software issue, Audi has taken it out deliberately with a software change. You can bring it back with an ECU tune.
Both of them: V10 and half of it sounds great-full
Thank you! Best sound comparison on RUclips!
I love the sound of both of them but I’ll definitely be getting the ttrs first th upgrade to the r8
Love AUDI 😍
Sounds good😍😍🤤🤤
Erstes Video welches ich sehe in dem der „OPF R8“ richtig gut klingt.
Bis auf unser Video ausm April😉🙏
Love thatR8 sound! Thank god this vid didn’t have that horrible sounding 2.9 v6
Wünsche dir ein frohes neues Jahr und weiterhin eine adrenalinreiche fahrt im TT RS und R8!
🙏
Very very interesting. You made the video directly on my daily testing street for customers cars. Very interesting. It is about 200 meters away from my workshop....Nextime you should come in an say hallo.... :) This is Jan, ctk Kiel, chiptuning development since 1996 as an engineer.....
Thank you so much for video and live music from cazoz ♥️😎♥️♥️😎🇸🇦♥️
ASR Klappensteuerung rein und das Problem ist gelöst. Hatte ich auch bei meinem RS3 VFL. Das Video beschreibt ja genau diese Problematik welches damit gelöst werden kann. Die Pops klingen geil, aber sind absolut verzichtbar. Aus dem Alter bin ich raus 😂
Der R8 hat ja sogar doch noch Misfire bei downshifts, richtig geil!! Dem TTRS fehlt schon das Volumen vom 5Zylinder welches der OPF rausnimmt :-(
Damn the R8 looks so much better without the spoiler.
Awesome cars 😮😍
Audi is the king 😎
Hermoso r8 saludos desde Perú 🇵🇪
The r8 when standing sounds like thunderstorm cloud in the distance
TTRS all day long! Simple the best!
love 5zyl
I have a tt gen 1 so not a TT hater but from a sound standpoint this is not even a contest, love that green on the TT tho.
Because 5 cylinders are the low rev versions of the v10
5 cylinder is better
My Audi 5000 CS Turbo sounds awesome!!!
I understand the new DB regulations and the opf filters etc, get an exhaust if you want your car louder. BUT can you remove the Rev limiter while standstill/ revving? That one really annoys me somehow :/
The Bosch MED 9 ECU has been cracked by quite a few companies now. Yes it can and has been disabled. That is a annoying feature for sure.
"Check out my 600+hp monster RS6 Avant! It's so badass."- Owner
"Cool, rev it up"- Dumb Kid
"Nah, that's okay"- Shamed Owner
Brian Jewell hahah yeah that would exactly be the case.. but okay what a relief then! Even though I’m not even close of owning such a nice car it’s still nice to know it’s possible!
I would be happy with an RS3. Around here it's often called the baby R8!
No.
Wouldn't the TTRS be the baby R8 though? 3 series is a sedan not a 2 door.
ጬ some people consider the 5 to be the baby r8 since the 5 and r8 have always shared the same headlights, but the tt does have a baby v10 in it
Vince Van der Perre No what? lf he says he would be happy with that, then he probably would.
ጬ Probably referring to the 5 Cyl Engine
Fantastic Fantastic video 👍👍
Two badass cars that Audi is discontinuing!. What a damn shame.. 🤦♂️
Nah can’t be
Audi has killed it with the facelift on the R8. My RS5 sounds like a Vespa compared to these beasts. Those are my favorite two current Audi engines. The 4.0 twin turbo V8 sounds nice but these just sing. Filter situation easy to fix with an exhaust 😋
Just get a manually controlled unit for the valves so you can choose when to open and close the valves by yourself. That solves at least part of the problem.
Automann, you have driven both versions of TTRS/RS3, with OPF and without, what is your personal opinion? Is there a big difference at higher rpms or just a decent?
Yes we have as we owned a MY18 RS3 and now a MY20 TTRS. There is a difference of course but mostly at standstill & townspeeds. Once you accelerate hard at higher speeds the new one still sounds very similar to the old. Best is if you watch this video and compare it to our latest RS3 video.
You would of been better off comparing the TTRS pre opf with the newer TTRS opf model for comparison ,good video though👍🏻
What’s the name of the color on the R8? Looks amazing.
Kemora Grey
So cool cars🤘🏿
Can someone explain what the OPF does and why everyone is so against it? Can it be removed... my biggest concern is the rev-limiter at standby 😪
OPF is a special filter for gasoline cars to reduce the emissions of small particles (similar like with diesel cars). The OPF is not the main reason why cars are quieter but the new (and lower) dB regulations the manufacturers have to meet. So even without OPFs (like Huracan EVO) they still need to be quieter. You can remove it but it’s illegal and like removing the cat;)
Automann-TV thank you for the clear and detailed information. So in short, a new exhaust is a must for all new cars! I wonder how easy it is to remove the OPF too. Noise regulations i get, but it’s sad that the cars have to be restricted this way! This is very worrying. Where does it end.
@@swb7161 They just explained that removing the OPF is as illegal as a cat delete. In most EU regions your car will be seized if you are busted, or not approved by yearly technical examinations (unless you know someone who can just tick all the boxes for you). Then again, why worry? Get a pre-OPF car, and you won't have any issues with regulations as you can't change anything about the loudness of older cars. It's just newer cars that are going to be regulated. It's also a financially less burdening option to buy a somewhat as good as new second-hand performance car. ;)
@@AbdelOO7 didn't realise you were the police ;) who cares about that. I have a secondary cat delete on my M4 comp and hopefully the same with the GT3 with the new exhaust system. It is fine and most MOT dealerships will be understanding. I don't think these things will change. Live a little, enjoy motorsport.
@@swb7161 who says anything about me being the police? Clearly even gave you a better suggestion. I don't know what country you are from, but in the Netherlands they are very strict when it comes to cars (and expensive tax wise). What you do or how do you it, is entirely up to you and frankly I do not care. It's just a word of advice, you can do with it what you want. And concerning enjoying "motorsports": people can enjoy many things in different ways.
The R8 has an exhaust valve rattle... my RS3 has this issue as well, but only when valves closed
Would love to see. Drag race between these two cars
Schöne Gegend wo du filmst. Den einen oder anderen Ort kenne ich.
Hallo Automann, soweit ich mich informiert habe, lässt der Rev Limiter den R8 nicht über 3000u/min im Stand drehen und dabei sind die Abgasklappen zu.
Ich habe allerdings im Audi Konfigurator ein 3-Speichen Lenkrad gefunden welches den alt bekannt Abgasklappen Knopf unter dem roten Start Knopf hat.
Nun zu meiner Frage. Ist es mit diesen Knopf doch möglich im Stand die Abgasklappen zu öffnen?
Oder wofür sollte dieser Knopf gut sein, wenn das Auto angeblich alles nur noch selbst regelt?
Great video 👍👍👍
They both would look great in my garage :)
John Jerrehian ...Go and buy....
@@fragu123 I do have two Audi's. Not an RS5 or R8 but an A6 3.2 and A6 TDI. Also have two ex wives who kept me from having these cars in my garage!
John Jerrehian ...A6 is still a great car - and you never know, the unexpected might happen and you will find an R8 coming into your garage. God nytt år!
@@fragu123 You are right!! Thank you...
Do either of these cars have the sport exhaust that is controlled by an electronic valve that ca be turned off and on?
2018 MY is the enthusiast sweet spot. 2019+ is the beginning of the end.
It's 2020 half a hour ago
You should try the Huracan Performante. The V10 was exhausts sounds way better.
Smooth sound
What happened to the rev sound of the audi r8?!
I have an S3 with DSG. 4cyl doesn’t sound the best but as long as I have my DSG farts I’m ok lol
両方とも美しい
I’d like to see a drag race between this cars , can you do it ?
ich bin stellenweise echt froh dass das Standgepröttel und Geknalle halbstarker Schwachmaten eingeschränkt wird. Sportlich genug in der Kabine und bei schneller Fahrt klingen die Autos alle noch. Helden der Eisdiele und roten Ampel heulen natürlich nun :)
Richtig. Show-Off im Stand und im Bereich 40-80 km/h ist stark eingeschränkt, aber außerhalb dessen klingen die Dinger immer noch extremst gut und für viele Passanten schon fast zu gut😛😇
Automann-TV geht mir bei meinem 718 GT4 genauso. Kein Brüllkäfer mehr im Stand aber ab 5000 rpm😍😍
@@Automann-TV Wie findest du den Sound des TTRS im Vergleich zum RS3 mit OPF?
What do u need to do Inorder to sound like this?any mods?
who does this regulation impact? I would assume merc and bmw yet i only see this sound limitations on audi. Has anyone else had to do something along these lines?
Audi 😍❤️
Video vom RS Q3 Sportback?
Reliant Robin
Not as bad as the AMG GT R for sure!
Still strong sound but there gotta be better regulations to car sound
Ich freue mich schon auf den RS6 C8 meines Nachbarn, aber werde den RS6 C7 doch schon vermissen
Hat Audi besser hinbekommen mit dem Sound trotz OPF als Mercedes.. die hören sich mittlerweile an wie Staubsauger
Möchtegern benz fanboy was laberst du jz
@@madebyabdul8777 kannst du lesen?
@@madebyabdul8777 🤦♂️ Er hat geschrieben, dass er den Sound von Audi mehr mag und du bezeichnest ihn als Mercedes fanboy.
@@Reports-tw6ld schau mal alles seine Kommentare an dann reden wir gerne weiter er versucht nur mercedes schlecht zu machen
Magomed Khabilov mein Bruder fährt den neuen GLC 63s AMG der ballert die trotz OPF noch die Eier aus der Hose
Für einen Autoliebhaber ist diese Zeit echt grauenhaft. Das perfide dabei ist, dass diese ganzen Beschlüsse sich kaum auf die Umwelt auswirken und es sich am Ende nur um das Liebe Geld dreht. Für mich ist das Thema Umwelt, Nachhaltigkeit und globale Erwärmung ein Kondratieff-Zyklus der Neuzeit.
Der gute Sound Tunnel in Levensau 🙂
They sounds so good
One and a half V10’s
Audi r8 the best
Wie viel km haben der TT und der R8 jeweils runter?
R8 jetzt 13.500...TT RS jetzt 6.500
Du kommst aus Kiel wie ich sehe am TT 😏🤌🏽
What does OBF stand for?
Hothaifa Algaidy Otto Partikel Filter
gasoline particulate filter
Nico Dreizehn thx❤️
Nice huracan
Now we realize how good audi is making their cars sound with opf. Just listen to the new merces they sound trash
Neither car sounds "bad", however it's pretty clear the non-OPF versions sound significantly superior.
But as said, more because of the new (and lower) dB regulations than because of the OPF itself. And those regulations are mainly at standstill & up to 70/80 km/h....all above is still similar.
@@Automann-TV db levels are a measure of loudness, not the tone of the what comes out of the exhaust. Tone wise, the OPF cars clearly appear to suffer.
Would not agree for all cars as the new ones tend to sound deeper! Something which is hard transport on camera but very pleasant at real life...makes people turn their head long before they see the car.
Nice TT RS & R8 is beautiful. The new regulation is scheiße..
I wasn't aware of this change. This is terrible, we like loud things. XD
So you have to break the speed limit to get a good sound out of these cars..
I couldn't afford a tt rs so I bought a jetta 2.5 5 cylinder and its full straight piped and in my opinion it sounds even better than the tt rs.
The stock sound of the TT-RS is dull as ** but I like the new exhaust sound. Although the RS still sounds better than the 718 Cayman models
Is it your R8?
Jep.
@@Automann-TV Okay cool👌👍
What's the colour on the R8
Der R8 ist besser als der TT RS, aber der TT RS ist auch cool.
Waited many years to be able to afford an R8
Beides sehr geile Autos,aber der R8 ist halt nochmal ne ecke geiler als der TT Rs. Kommst du aus WF?
May now the Taycan is better? No OPF? LOL :)
My dream car is a TT RS