I Installed Wifi 900 Ft Underground In An Abandoned Mine
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- Опубликовано: 20 янв 2024
- It was a historic day at Cerro Gordo! We set off to bring Internet 900 feet underground to have communications, research, and more down in the abandoned mines.
It was an adventure, as all things are up here.
Check it out as I descend 900 feet underground to bring Internet.
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Glad to see you've enabled password protection on your wifi... you don't want miners piggybacking on your network!
because topside will Also have an access point 😂❤ basically could go offline network data but yeah 👍🏼
It'd be awful if his data got mined.
@@nickaschenbecker9882get out of here 😂
@@nickaschenbecker9882”world record depth phishing”😂
@@nickaschenbecker9882 you sir win the internet for today!
as a professional Network engineer, i would have looked at using multi-strand single mode fiber (think a single cable with multiple strands of fiber to splice off of) to each level that is significant to you, such as the 900 and 700 foot levels. This way you terminate a pair of fiber at each level then add a POE switch to covert to CAT6 ethernet and provide the Power over Ethernet to run the Access Point. This method is highly extensible and creates a consistent, repeatable network for each level. The draw back is money, your method is a lot cheaper. Ether way glad to see you have connectivity down at the 900.
I was surprised he was getting 50mb over the cable. not to shabby.
@@procrastinatingnerd its cause his phone was the only client using that RF space for miles, lol. you start adding devices and that bandwidth starts getting chopped up real quick.
Using Coax is just crazy in 2024.
I agree thats how mondern networks are created. However, to do that well the 900ft of fiber would need to be protected by conduit. So 900ft of conduit. Then you need the POE switches, those need to be programed to a vlan and protected from dust, heat and humidity. Another problem to solve. You cant just put them in a rack in a closet cooled by a mini split like we do on the surface.
Oh and the fiber needs spliced. It is not the hardest thing to learn but definitely more involved than coxal cable.
For those reason, I think the current design is much better because it is the simple and cheep. Thats my 2 cents.
@@bassman87 No, I mean I was surprised that he got 50 mb over the 900 foot cable, not over wifi. Our wifi can get over 100 mb on the 2.4ghz band, the wifi isn't the limiting factor here.
I thought it was obvious that the more clients you have, the less speed each gets (if they are all using it at the same time)... That will apply to the cable and the internet above ground just the same.
If you are going to spend a lot more time in the mine, you may want to provide some forced air ventilation down the shaft to dissipate Radon, which is seemingly everywhere underground and a serious health risk. It may largely settle into the deeper shafts to decay, but you should measure it to find out what level of risk it adds to the mine adventure and whether or not it can be reduced by forced through ventilation of the same type used in working mines.
I live 30 miles from a radon mine and people from all over the world go there to “treat” arthritis and a multitude of other ailments. Certainly nothing I would ever do but a good friend goes at least one week a year. I would be very concerned with all the dust that is coating lungs down in this mine. We see it in all the vlogs. Obviously Brent isn’t masked while talking to us while filming but hopefully at all other times. (Wishful thinking.)
@@VintageLPs I thoroughly agree, especially about wearing a mask!
Radon is the second leading cause of lung cancer as well 😟
@@VintageLPs He stated he's possibly going to spend weeks at a time down there, which is not a good idea even for seasoned miners. I don't think he actually has safety in mind Or he's not aware of the latent radioactive materials in mines. No to mention the possibility of silicosis from just being in there for long periods of time.
I wouldn't hold you're horses on that one.
@@VintageLPsradiation in small doses actually helps reduce the risk of cancer. I would imagine there's actually some use for arthritis... As long as it's within an acceptable range.
Next up: IoT environmental sensors. Particularly a 4 gas meter. Looking at all the dust floating around there, dust masks should be part of the long term stay plan as well. Having power down there to recharge portable work equipment light lights is also really helpful.
Since this room is sort of your hub of activity down there, you may want to put in a network switch, with the wifi on one port, and more coax converters to split off into different sections of the mine. Another possibility is just to drop SEVERAL coax lines and toss the boxes into the landings on different levels so you are ready to hook up when you start exploring that area.
I mean you technically could even get a small airfilter unit for the base
and I really feel that getting a UPS down there would be really a key thing
Once you start spening time down there regularly i recommend switching the lights from white to red at "night" time to keep your sleep cycles regulated.
And turn off the wifi router!!
huh, why? @@errorASMR
I live in red light at night. It's wonderful
@@1920benjamin dont want the cave goblins discovering the internet
They are probably one of those people who thinks WiFi causes cancer or other BS like that. Other than thinking that you NEVER want to take your network down for any reason besides maintenance. There is 0 benefit to turning it off every night. @@1920benjamin
RG6 is only good for 327' after that signal is lost. either use repeaters or RG11 might work but that might even be to far....Id use fiber!
Fiber is def the way to go for this.
apart from cost effectiveness and ease of repair, I can't imagine why anyone would suggest using Coax hahaha
I agree. I also have my cringe at the 12-2 Romex being ran 900’ down a mine shaft. Physical damage? Voltage drop? Nah, those don’t exist.
Fiber is so cheap these days and so are the optics, likely cheaper than the coax adapters..
"Google" says coaxial cables for internet can be 500m (or 1640 feet). More than enough.
I am a ham radio operator and it has always been a Standard Operating Procedure when running ANY long run of ANY type cable or wire to ALWAYS do a continuity check on EVERY section to make sure you have a good cable or wire as well as all the electronic devices. Hook it all up BEFORE running even the first foot.
Sorry for the LONG comment!
Hi Brent,
Congratulations on getting internet to the 900 ft level!! If I may, I’d like to suggest a couple things.
1. Add a POTs (Plain Old Telephone) line so you cane have a “ring down” phone by using the Viking DLE-200B below. All you do is pick up the receiver on either phone to make the other phone ring. I currently have this setup and it works great.
The Viking® DLE-200B™ Emergency Telephone Ringdown Circuit produces two-way communication between analog telecom devices by simulating an analog phone line. Popular applications include dedicated point-to-point communication and telecom equipment demonstrations without a phone line.
2. Considered upgrading the Coax connection to Fiber connection. Fiber has Much, Much lower losses than the coax does! If you ran RG59 coax that is very close to the limit of those devices, see below. Using fiber optic cable does have its drawbacks but the coax also has limitations.
Cable Supported 75 Ohms coaxial (other impedances supported)
Transmission Range Up to 1100' (300 m) on RG59 or 1600' (500 m) on RG11 at full rate
Fiber optics cable can also support several other things at the same time such as video to monitor the water. This way you want take up the Wi-Fi bandwidth for video. Since you have power you can add a power supply with battery backup at the 900 ft and other levels as needed. If the “Head End” also has battery backup your internet connection would still work even if you lost power top side.
Ron, N4PHP
yeah dude as a mining engineer having a hardline to topside has always been a big concern. like MSHA shut the operation down level safety concern, which im still a little confused as to how he is classifying the mine as even tourist attraction mines fall under strict scrutiny from them.
@@kalevwade4532 In the past I have worked in coal mines here in Alabama and you just don’t run wires any old way. The requirements are very different for running wires and installing electrical outlets, switches and panels. I work for an OEM and we built Drive Systems and other things. So before a lot of money is spent, I would suggest checking out what you have to do to meet those requirements so you don’t have to spend money removing what you’re doing and spend more redoing it!
Another thing is monitoring for methane gas. I don’t know how much air flow is moving through the mine or maybe it’s not a big concern but if you have any chances of methane I would only use MSHA approved lights and switches!
Ron,N4PHP
I honestly don't see any reason to not run fiber that long except clearly the issue being installer likely doesn't understand past just coax and twisted pair/ethernet. Just grab a Switch with a 1Gbps SFP which is like 30$. Buy a roll of armored Fiber and then place a SFP switch at each level. around 250-350$ for outdoor singlemode Fiber 1000ft. if you wanna do it cheap. If you wanna do it proper pay 1200-1500$ for Armored singlemode, a bunch of rest of the equipment (looks like a UbiQuiti infra) and then proceed as usual. Use a bunch of Wifi6 APs down below because MU-MIMO does a LOT for tunnels like those by having beamforming ability. .
@@BreatheScotland while I'd have agreed with you, I disagree because all you need to do is have a switch at each 100ft or 200ft level. 100ft of wire can be easily replaced even if it's non armored and if it's armored chances of damage are really low. Obviously the hardest part would be installation for fiber but besides that I see no reason to go fiber
I would have just stuck to ethernet Cat6 if I cared about repairability with switches at around 200-300ft. 328ft is limit for 1Gbps so you have all the bandwidth you'll need in a mine.
32-40Mbps bandwidth on that Coax will not be enough even for 2 people and some sensors and cameras
You should have an emergency backup for communication like a simple crank phone. One down at 900 feet and one at the top. Crank rings bell, answer and talk. Small rechargeable battery to power the system. All cheap and available.
Agreed! I would have immediately installed a set of military field phones as soon as that lift was operational. They are easy to find on surplus sites (e.g., Coleman's Military Supply), along with 2000' spools of field wire... a complete 2-station kit for under $350. Personally, I would have run multi-strand SM fiber and created a GPON network for the mine; multiple branches for each level with multi-gigabit connectivity and no worry about EMI/RFI crosstalk from the parallel power lines down the shaft. Anyway, I'm glad he got it working! 😉👍
Navy sound powered phones immediately come to mind. One wire, no electrical power source.
Aren't they already on battery powered radios plus internet now? There's no single point of failure in common between the two systems.
@@KastorFluxradios dont work well underground, not to the surface anyway
@@TobyWhiteUK it depends on how you set them up. People use radios in mines all the time.
This would just blow the minds of the miners 100 years ago. You are now connected to a system that allows you to read pretty much every book ever written, listen to virtually all music ever recorded, watch images from around the word as they happen, access to all books. All 900 feet down a mine. Wow
You can share pictures of cats.
@@AmySoyka that too lol 😹
Internet itself would blow their minds, doesn't need to be 900 feet down a mine.
@@momolovesyou9969 but that's where their ghosts are! 👻
I have about 18,000 records in my collection, only about 20% of them have been digitized. Saying the internet gives you 'virtually all music ever recorded' is not only ignorant, it is laughable.
That's awesome! Yeah, power via a 900ft coax cable was always going to be problematic. The longer the wire, the more resistance and hence a reduced current. So a thicker power cable is needed. Can't wait for the exploration that this will make possible! Tread carefully my man
Thats great news, might I suggest a dedicated phone that stays down there with a charger. Also put in some emergency lights that go on when the power is off, and a battery charge system. Don't forget to encapsulate all those components with plastic to avoid moisture condensation on the components. Have a great week and God bless amen.
This makes the mine so much safer & gives me piece of mind when you're down there alone
I’m glad you got that piece back.
Idk if it helped much
Oh hey dood
Pathetic
@@Safexscape Let that piece RIP in peace!
Ships and mines sometimes allow for walkie talkies by running a network of leaky feeder cables between spaces, which is coax with intentionally leaky shielding, so that it can absorb RF signals in one space and transport them to other spaces to be re-radiated by deliberately leaking the absorbed signals. I've also heard it called half-shielded coax. Ships also often have sound-powered telephones, which can work even if the ship completely loses electrical power. Both systems can range from very simple to very sophisticated.
Leaky cables is the way for Walkie Talkies. Completely agree.
With having power at each level, you may want to consider having POE network switches plugged into each of those outlets at each level so that you can add IP devices (access points, IP cameras, etc.).
That would also allow you to use more traditional networking cabling (CAT6) since you wouldn't be exceeding the distance limits from CAT6.
The reason for using the RG6 COAX over CAT for that 900ft distance is obviously that RG6 is limited to about 3280 ft because you lose signal (and power) the farther it goes.
Using something like fiberoptic wire from top to bottom would mean you didn't have power over the Coax, but since you already have power running down there, that shouldn't make a difference.
You could also consider a directional WiFi access point that goes straight down the shaft so that you could potentially get WiFi all the way down too (these are typically used for point-to-point WiFi bridges, but maybe there's one that would work for your needs too?)
Another thing to consider is a VPN system, so that the devices on that network act as if they are on your own network in town. That way if you needed to connect IP cameras to a NVR, or other monitoring device, they devices in the mine would think they were connected to the same network in town... that became an issue for you.
I'd love to see Ubiquity work with you to show how their rural and long-range systems can work for residential and commercial applications with sponsored content.
Imagine having WiFi for the entire town, and show how it's all managed through Ubiquity Routers, Switches, Access Points, and their management system. I think it'd be a great collaboration.
Yes agree with this. Also could put an intercom system for communication so you don’t have to have a device to communicate with the hoist
@@KyleGetson Problem with the intercom system is distance. Radio based is not working down there. Hard wired would require specialised cable storage for 900' of cable.
I would have taken fibre runs to each mine exit level. I know you were trying to cheat and use power over coax as well as data.
Since you have power on each level you can have POE switches connected to the surface by fibre. if you have the switches on UPS they will run without topside power for some time.
@@TheHoofSmith radio would work perfectly down there if properly set up. Just expecting a handheld with a stock antenna to work down a 900ft mine is ridiculous. Preferable is using a digital mesh radio, however too expensive so a good alternative is a Digital Mesh/Relay network like LoRA or Meshtastic. Allows you to setup a cheap spanning network that can do hundreds of miles and add Encryption even.
Besides that proper analog setup would be having a 20Watt base station at the top with antenna pointed straight down into the shaft, using handhelds with a bunch of power, having a repeater network setup at each 100ft level and replacing the trash antennas on those handhelds with something better like a SignalStick. I've been able to get reception deep into mines with such a setup
@@MaxC_1 You do realise that this mine is literally made of lead. You can improve it some but to think you can blast a signal through lead is expecting too much.
@TheHoofSmith never said "through" anything. My entire infrastructure was based on LOS which is why I mentioned a digital mesh relay allowing each device to act as a node and reach extremely deep within mines as, again LOS using 20$ devices scattered across the shafts.
But as for Radio, again a base station with antenna pointed straight down. with a bunch of repeaters along the walls at each level would improve the signal capabilities a lot more unless you travelled really deep inside in which case- mesh networks win.
I know what I reccommend works because that's what i've used before to get comms down in 400ft deep mines, which sure, weren't lead but coal but again I can't see it being so impossible to reach considering how they were able to reach get comms 600ft below with just 5W of power with a tiny antenna in LOS
Good job Brent,this was history in the making,right in front of our eyes. I love it.Can’t wait to see what the next step will be.
Could probably have tested everything up top. doubt it makes a difference if the cable is rolled up on the roll or going down the mine shaft.
It makes zero difference being rolled up unless he kinks the cable
I think the cable itself was fine it was his sloppy terminations. coax you have to be very careful that the shield wires around the outside go into their place on the termination otherwise it can ground the connection
imo, the first cable line, was compromised when he used brads to nail it to the studs. I winced when I saw him hammering it in. I did my first network install with coax about 34 years ago, and there are some things you just don't do lol
The second cable run did not have that problem because he taped it to the cable that was nailed. This will present a long term issue since the tape will eventually lose adhesive and the entire weight of the cable will be felt at the top end, more than likely breaking the internal wire where it bends to go down the shaft.
I think he was pretty quick on the uptake regarding the power issue, but I was grimacing about the third time up and down because there are plenty of networking tools that can be used to analyze the line without uninstalling it.
But yeah, great work for a miner ! I would suggest that they use zip ties (tight enough to hold a few pound, not so tight as to crimp the inner wire/shielding) to firmly attach the good cable to the nailed cable to hold the weight and a tension stress relief loop in about every level. That should prevent damage to the top end of the cable.
The other cable end is buried on the spool so no access to it
@BreatheScotland He said it got caught or something on way down tried to splice it. He showed it
For your dedication in preserving American History, CA and Los Angeles; you should be awarded and recognized by the Smithsonian and/or other organizations, after all is done and/or now. Love what you are doing. Way to go Brent! 👍👍
Great comment! Between all of the techies and weirdos, it’s hard to find a decent comment to like here, so thank you again.
I understand your sentiment here but James Smithson would likely not agree with this. I love what they are doing here in Cerro Gordo but let's not forget this is 100% a for profit endeavor backed by an investment firm. If at some point the entirety of this operation is gifted to the United States (as Smithson did), then it would make sense to be recognized and supported in the way you indicate here.
@@ScorpioSkacan you tell James I got a painting for sale😂❤
Wouldnt the coolest part of being down there putting down the phone for afew hours probably much healthier to do, but running power for lights and tools makes a ton of sense , and i guess the ability to look literally anything up down there is kinda awesome , least we know if you have conpany and they feel like playing angry birds or something of that nature , youll know mines either aint their cup of tea, or uhh yeah im gonna go with internet down there maybe just maybe nice but what for lol i can see both sides of it but if it was me id enjoy the time and especially that people literally cant call or txt me during mine exploring time… lol but to each their own- adversly very well could save your
Life if you got caught ina collapse or something… so really nice work. Question do yall need afew more hard working and dedicated individuals up there bret? Just asking i may know afew, its my assumption that when you finish the hotel you might ,need to fill many roles around town especially if you plan on it making money and functioning like a normal hotel? I watch most if not all your vids and im just wondering bcus not sure you ever have mentioned and legistics of or specific things regards to workers and things that your going to b needing eventually..,but anyway- nice job!keep up the great effort and cant wait till the next vid as usual! 😊
This Aussie agrees! I've watched him from the outset.
this is pretty damn amazing. admire your tenacity and perseverance in the face of all the different little technical issues that are annoying enough just working on a regular building... your positive attitude is super cool. congratulations on your hard work paying off, that's really exciting!
You take “ go kick rocks!” To a whole new level!!! So glad to see things are progressing for you!!! I remember I was heartbroken for you when the original hotel burned down!! I wanted to hop in my 1976 Dodge Titan Champion Motorhome and come to help!!! Unfortunately my tenants were horrendous and I lost everything my home etc and couldn’t $$$ gas to drive ol Freedom out to you ( 7 miles to the gallon from east coast to west coast?) yikes in any event I too was heartbroken as I was owner occupied and due to terrible people that I was so kind to I became homeless as they owed thousands in back rent and were working!! Just refusing to pay
Well enough about that sad tale of woe YOUR CHANNEL & videos kept me positive during Covid and Covid aftermath
❤❤❤❤❤❤thank you B!!! God bless you and your stellar channel!!
As an ex cable and internet technician, you should have ran fiber, or at least rg11 coax down the shaft, much less loss at that crazy distance. sure you'll lose at the adapters that you'll need at the ends, but not nearly as much as your losing with rg6. especially since your not starting out with fast connection to begin with. would love to see a meter connected to see your levels lol
he was really quick and dirty with his terminations and with no tester its hard to say what he did wrong. chances are the first cable was just fine and he just got shield wires grounding things
I wonder if there is less interference as it's underground. Granted, it's next to a power cable.
@@whiskeyinthejar24 that's a good question, but as you pointed out, less interference is certainly negated by the power cable, and the lights.
@@imchris5000 I wonder if he just twisted the stinger together and then twisted the braiding, it wouldn't surprise me cause I've seen it done many, many times working as a tech
Exactly.
we have a old mine that we transformed into an adventure mine. we use a wiered intercom system so we can talk to to each other. I think it would be good to install one in your mine too, as a second level of safety, in case internet break connection and you're alone down there
Hey man, congratulations on getting your communications system up and running!
Very exciting. The possibilities are wide open. Things are moving forwards. You've come a long way in your endeavors. Stay safe brother. Very happy for you.
Way to go Brent! Your perserverence always pays off! Congrats!
If you're running coax under those conditions, I'd highly recommend adding a couple of coax amplifiers.
indeed running 900 ft or switch to cat 6 and would need to add a network switch every 300 ft
shoulda, coulda. woulda. Fiber would have been the bomb.
@@jimh598 Was gonna say - just run fiber.
Also there are various levels of armored cable you can get too. Its more expensive but if ya want it to hold up its worth it. Hell run some armored fiber down there :D Only thing is you can't inject power into fiber. They prob went with Coax because I believe you can inject power into it with longer lengths, like others said CAT 6 you only get about 300ft of POE.
@@greengiant912 right but they have power down there anyway so you could just throw a media converter and PoE injector on there
17:04 Good to see that excitement in your face. Good work
Congratulations! You have come a long way baby! Amazing!!!🎉
love your work and dedication. Thankyou sir!
Always fun to see you get excited when something goes well! I'm looking forward to seeing how this helps you expand your mine explorations.
SO EXCITING, Brent!! I can’t wait to get there one day!! Congratulations on this latest update to Cerro Gordo!! 🎉🥂
Way to go Outstanding!!! 🎉 and good luck with all other endeavors.
Congrats!! Not only did you get internet on the 900 level but it's also pretty dang fast for all the relays it has to go through. So cool!
Ready , looking forward
Well done. Your patience knows no bounds. Looking forward to seeing the new ‘suite’ and what life will be like at 900ft down. Take care, BE SAFE. ❤️ Dorset, UK
I am so proud of you! I’ve watched you since the very beginning. I really look forward to receiving your book.
Best wishes, and best of luck.❤
Congratulations! Makes communication so much easier so much better! So much safer as well. Can’t wait to see where the other levels go. So much to explore.
Kudos to you and the team. You are the man!
I'm so happy to see your mine exploration videos are back I'm missed.them you have fantastic channel
Yes!!!! You have come a long way from almost 4 years ago. Such dedication and passion.
One of my favorite videos so far, loved the story telling!
I had to immediately wonder why anyone with any basic electronics skills would advise using coax.
It being cheap is the main reason for a lot of people
@@makalepetermeyer5893fiber is not that expensive
@@makalepetermeyer5893Is it even cheaper than SMF once you add MoCA adapters?
The coax is not a problem, it's the power over coax. Way too far to transmit DC power.
Unless one uses an adjustable supply and crank it up a bit so it ends with the proper voltage.
You should also install a two way line connected to the internet cable just pick up the phone and talk to the hoist operator on the other phone and maybe put a loud speaker two way also…
Going down the shaft looks like a lot of fun. I am happy for you mate doing what you love to do. Keep it up brother.
Glad you made it!! Now onto those deeper levels.......
LOVED watching this LIVE! Such a milestone for you 👊
Hey Brent, I wish you all the best in your journey with Cerro Gordo. I hope to one day take a trek over that way to see it in person. What a thrilling adventure you are living and fulfilling. Keep up the great work, I look forward to seeing where you go from here!
Well said ....would like to visit also
Cerró Gordo dream making reality, beautiful beautiful place silver mine, god bless your hard work to make the place look so beautiful!!
Mike from Elk Grove Crunch Fitness CA, ive been following u from tge beginning, you're doing incredible progress and overcome barrier's with the support of great volunteers
Great seeing you in the Matts Offroad Recovery video. I dont subscribe to many channels, but somehow managed to see many of my favorite channels listed in that video today.
Cerro Gordo totally deserves a Starlink!
Yeah, really surprised they didn’t go with it. I have it deployed at two locations and see average 200 mbps dl speeds and it’s solid as a rock
Better value for money is the local guy who is knowledgeable and willing to be on-camera explaining how the stuff works. Our local guy that re-sells his Charter Internet business connection is friendly enough but doesn't understand networking and would boast how every additional nested NAT is the same as making his offering more secure and started talking about how IPv5 is the future when I asked about IPv6. Until Starlink though there's not been any other option for our valley. Now I reluctantly use Starlink... 6x the cost and giving away that money to some corporate overlord is not ideal.
Nice speech.
Starlink everyday.
Is starlink and fiber+ubiquiti going down a solution too expensive to run?
Setup would be so much easier.
@@niceride Dang, how much does he charge? The Starlink equipment was 600 and then 120 a month. If 120 a month is 6x what you pay him that means he’s reselling high speed for 20 bucks a month in a rural remote area.
Great choice of Unifi equipment. Little surprised the AC Mesh Pro didn't work but the little AC-Meshes have never failed me! I didn't know MoCA could go that far without a repeater, I was thinking 300' to 350' would be the optimistic best distance. Any-who as an ex-cabler and others suggested fiber would be a better choice for that type of distance and Unifi has options and maybe they will sponsor your videos with the extreme use of their equipment. Awesome Video!
Your videos always give me motivation to work on my projects. Home renovatoon and large garden. Going to be drilling some shallow wells this Spring to try to use less water from the county.
Great job, although I would have gone for 150 ft cable and a router on each level with power over internet. And just patch on, then you have wifi on each level, and multiple places to check if you have a cable break.
Way to go Brent!! Awesome !!!
Incredible news! You have made my day.
Love all the exerts that have no clue of the challenges in such an environment. Good Job Brian
Brent has determination like no other
Another goal reached. So proud of you!❤
Your content is like no other. I get excited everytime a video comes up from ghost town living!
You are awesome!!!!! Loved you finally reaching your goal! Now you are safe.
Should have used fiber. Even high quality RG6 is only good for about 350' with MOCA. OM3 can go tens of kilometers, and 1GB SFP modules are stupid cheap.
I notice you seem to always make a point that Cerro Gordo was the biggest silver mine in California.
Would really enjoy a video comparing Cerro to some of the other silver mines active around the same time that were bigger.
Anywho big fan. Thanks for the videos.
Are you referring to the Comstock Mine at Virginia City, NV?
I've been watching since the beginning and you've come so far. Congratulations!
Always great to see you Brett
I think using COAX was a mistake.
I think you are mistake.
@@dievas1 Did your extra chromosome express itself too hard when you made that comment?
@@enzycal your mother agreed with me while we were having coitus, you are in fact a mistake.
Big time. This network/IT guy is clueless. SHould have been Fiber all the way and they should be using Starlink for internet.
Man, I'm so proud of you! I have skills to run internet, wifi and electricity and wish I lived closer to help you in person. I will visit Cerro Gordo someday.
YES!
Keep going man can't wait to see what's next
As a Network Engineering student, I initially pictured single mode fiber to get all that way down, but Brent's coax choice in Cerro Gordo makes so much sense for cost and historical vibe, its great to see implimentation of networking in this setting and has certainly inspired some things i can do in my theoretical network design coursework assignments. Cool video, would be amazing if you did a full breakdown on the networking and utilities in cerro gordo as it would be extremely interesting to see networking in a setting such as cerro gordo(coming from someone in a city in the uk, its practically all fiber here i mean im not complaining but not many fun networking stuff to spot)
The problem is that its a mine. Coax is much more durable than fiber and would handle abuse much more safely. With fiber, if you just bend it too much it can be compromised. Coax? As long as that wire isn't completely severed, you can still send a signal over it.
The excitement is palpable, I can feel it through my screen, coming from you. Lol. Nice job to all that helped you work on this! This has to be the first mine in history to have Wi-Fi down at the 900 level, lol.
Not sure if anyone else asked but was Starlink ever a consideration for you guys? I feel like it would give you a better download and uploads speed and potentially be more reliable than the antenna pointed out of tower miles away that can be impacted by a number of things. Not that Starlink is foolproof and guaranteed to be the best option, but is just a thought that maybe it could work here for you. Anyway, I know that coax typically has a limit on how far the signal can reach from the trunk line to pedestals and into the house or wherever the termination point is. You can remedy that by having amplifiers installed to boost the signal and give you a longer reach. That's likely what's happening in your situation here. For the longer lengths like what you're doing here, fiber is the better choice however it's also much more expensive. Something you might want to keep in mind if you experience issues down the road.
The fiber would likely be cheaper than the coax, and they probably get better internet off of the tower for cheaper than what starlink can provide. Its still a wireless connection, just that the tower is alot closer and directly linked to fiber.
@@deepspacecow2644 Starlink is like $100/month and has better speeds. It's is crazy Brent doesn't have it there yet as that is exactly what it is designed for.
Brent, just heard you are going to be in the Wrecker Games with Matt's Off Road Recovery. Best news ever!
I'd love to see an LTT crossover with this!
This would be amazing
Linus would jump at the task and think of the viewer it would bring to the channel
@ltt
HA, no.
Linus would break something
Nice work!
Congrats on your amazing accomplishments.
A dream becomes reality!! You really are inspiring Bret! EPIC!!!
You should put a UPS Backup on all the equipment in the hoist house!
Congratulations, Brent! It's so great to see these triumphs after so many set backs. Keep going!
I ditto that!
God bless you man!
Congratulations, Brent!!! 🎉🎉🎉
defo would have recomended fiber. can reach up to 120km on a single mode fiber no problems
If you pay for it and replacing it every few months, sure...
@@dievas1 Why would it need frequent replacing? Use armored cable, and SMF is very cheap.
@dievas1 Replace fiber every few months? LOL Our country is still using fiber installed like in 1960's
Now you know how the trans Atlantic communication cables work. Cables connecting each nation under the ocean by wired land line communications to land, to towers for a wireless signal. Ps. Sattelites dont exist. Never have.
Use fiber. They have the same type of converter
you can order a 1000 foot fiber with the ends pre terminated
This is amazing. Good job.
Keep Up the Great Videos! Thank You for Sharing!
I'd pay a couple bucks a month to have access to a real-time live feed of the 900 level of the mine.
there's a neat idea!
that and some environment sensors!
Now you know how the trans Atlantic communication cables work. Cables connecting each nation under the ocean by wired land line communications to land, to towers for a wireless signal. Ps. Sattelites dont exist. Never have.
when you are down in the mine always carry a battery bank in your pocket so you can charge your mobile phone and other things in case they crash. in this way, you can have long contact in the event of an accident.
well done Brent,glad things are going well bro. stay safe buddy x
Love to see this dude happy, that was awesome
That's pretty impressive! Well done Brent!
So, congratulations on a creative solution. Personally, I would have used regular ethernet (over outdoor / direct bury grade cable), and put an ethernet switch every few hundred feet down the shaft. This allows you to add access points on higher levels as needed, and not have to mess with the coax. Ubiquity sells outdoor rated switches, or you can use consumer grade ones inside a waterproof box. The spec allows 100 meters between switches, so 3 would be enough - or just use 4 if you want more places to tap in along the shaft.
Finally, on the electrical side, I'd put a plug-in volt meter at the bottom of the 900 foot of cable. The more power you draw the more voltage you'll lose, and you don't want to find yourself with 80 or 90 volts when something large kicks on.
Yay🎉🎉🎉🎉 Congrats Brent!!
at your home you have better internet than a lot of people. to say that you have that good of internet 900 ft down into a mine of that notoriety is astounding, I'm excited to see what future projects you work on!
@Brent, Would you consider starlink?? 😎
Thought there was already wi-fi down there 😂🎉
Great moment!!!
that's so cool Brent - and can't wait to see you do some needed house keeping down below, give the place a little tidy up and clean - it would be a cool thing to do an inventory of timber etc you might be able to bring from some of the less accessible places back to build some cosy underground cabin with all the trimmings
This could be the deepest WiFi access point in the world. Can't find info about anything deeper except undersea cables
The voltage drop across 1000 feet has to be significant. I'm not sure about powering dc electronics over that distance. Use AC to power the devices at the bottom!
depends on the load. with just a wifi acesspoint there will be wery little voltage drop.
Congratulations! Well done! 🎉
Awesome news, Brent! Now you can setup Live infrared Cerro Gordo mining ghost cams. 😉 I'll be out that way one day and will stop by. I love what you've been doing and thank you for bringing us along with you.
Great safety improvement. Have you ever done Radon tests?
Is that the same as emp meter for checking the radiation