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soon or later you will watch The Sixth Sense 1999 and signs 2002 movies wonderful thrillers movies LOVE YOU GUYS, PEAK REACTION, I THINK NOONE PREDICTS THE ENDING OF SHUTTER ISLAND
Oh my goshhh! You’re right! Every time he remembers it’s simply too traumatizing. Many would rather be dead/lobotomized than an experience like that 💔 Tell me why I’ve seen this several times and still didn’t get it. lol and I’m a cinephile I pay close attention
@@AL-fl4jkno no, get it right, scorsese said the studio felt the need to pretend it was vague, but anyone who didn’t understand shouldn’t be watching his movies anyway
I love how at the very beginning almost every single hospital employee is super nervous and on edge. We are made to think it's because of the "missing patient" but its actually everyone being absolutely terrified of Leo.
@@aj897 They've been used to being met with violence from him for years whenever they try to deny his delusion, they're on edge around him at all times because of that mainly.
The fact that DiCaprio didn’t win an Oscar for his performance in this movie, is a crime against acting. He truly showed in depth emotions for every scene. Everything was heart wrenching and he embodied everything he was supposed too
The ending makes it clear that he knew the reality but chose to pretend he was still in the fantasy, ending his agony with a lobotomy. That amazing ending always makes me think!
@@zanchi1233: It hints at the fact that he is indeed conscious of it and choosing to have the lobotomy. However, it remains ambiguous, and not at all "super clear". It's also a possibility that he simply regressed.
It's a bit complicated. Scorsese didn't want a vague ending, but the studio did so he made a poorly executed vague ending that isn't actually vague. Just seems vague to people who either desperately want the mystery or just weren't really paying attention. Scorsese also said that anyone who thinks the ending is vague shouldn't be watching it in the first place. Lol
@@AnonymousSaiyan: Try reading my comment again. Did I ever say the signs are not there? No, I didn't say that. In fact, I explicitly said that there are indeed signs of it being the case, it's strongly hinted at. But it's ambiguous, and far from certain. You trying to state it as certain fact again proves that you've missed the point entirely.
Some of the trivia about this movie is wild. Shutter Island is an anagram of "truths and lies", and "truths/denials". The weather in this movie reflects Laeddis' mindset, the more confused he is the worse the storm is, and it's a bright and sunny day at the end.
@@paulc8588 I mean Revenant was great but the character was pretty subdued and one-dimensional. That was more a lifetime achievement Oscar than anything else
If you remembered, Here DiCaprio never lighted his own cigarettes, it's always Chuck or someone lighting it, referring it to the rules he's been under in this asylum for 2 years and that specific rule was a mental patient should not be handling weapons in this case 'a lighter' and he too never hesitated someone lighting it cz he's instinct has been acclamatized living here for that long time. Also the woman he was interviewing first asked Chuck to go away then only she wrote her out of the rehearsal message to him. Cz he was afraid of Chuck who she knew was the primary doctor Sheehern. There are many more Easter eggs, I love watching movies having rewatchable factor to it. The icing on the cake is it's also got the hallmarks of a horror movie!
Great point, I never noticed that tip and I've watched the movie 15 or 20 times. I think actually want to let my brain be fooled to and go along with the ride the movie is taking us on.
One of my favourite hints is when the Deputy Warden asks for Chuck's gun. He's not used to handling weapons so it takes him a while to unclip his holster
Just watched the uncut version on Patreon. The funniest thing was their obsession with the crazy lady in the garden at the beginning, they were really expecting her to show up again!
When Leonardo realizes his children are dead in the lake is so heart-wrenching. --------- His yelp is so primal like a wild banshee is so intense. ------ That is beyond acting. He makes you feel like his whole world collapsed at that moment. ------- Plus the director uses a great overhead shot to give the desperation needed for the scene. Great writing, acting, and directing. Great movie. --------- Such an Oscar worthy performance.
This is one of those films that really reveals itself on a rewatch.. there are so many tells throughout the film that it's almost comical, but they're all cleverly done and juuuust miniscule enough that you'll let them slide the first time around. My personal favorite is Andrew interviewing the staff, and the nurse trying to describe the "normalcy" of their average workday keeps glancing at Ruffalo's character whenever "Sheehan" gets brought up.
Have a 2nd watch you'll notice so many clues, the way staff keeps looking at Chuck for validation when speaking to Andrew, the doctors reaction when Andrew is putting pieces together and the edits all give you so much information
"What would be worse? To live as a monster, or die as a good man" That was him basically saying he wanted to die with that fantasy in his head because it's better than reality. Yes a lobotomy isn't technically death but its pretty close to it.
He was saying that prefer to die as good man now that he remembers everything, getting the lobotomy voluntary, rather than live as a monster whether is repeating the act over and over again or having to live with what he did.
This movie couldn't be more perfect for Pudgey. She keeps a keen eye for weird goings on and I can't think of many movies with more of that than Shutter Island. Great reaction guys!
This movie is so insane on a rewatch. Every single scene takes on a completely new meaning. ALSO! There is a huge hint to what's really going on throughout: fire/smoke is a lie, water is the truth. Pay attention to the smoke, fire and water.
This is arguably the most underappreciated movie of all time. Its a 10/10. Everybody thinks its a 10/10 but not a lot talked about it when it came out.
you know when this was one of the first movies i've seen i used to talk about it a lot and thought it's a 10/10, since then my opinion simmered down a bit, but it's still a great psychological thriller fs
@@TheJerbolhonestly I love this movie but I can see why. They should’ve made it even more mysterious. Watching it back, there were a few scenes they could’ve executed better and made the reveal obvious. butttt I’ve also seen it a few times lol
47:46 Don't have to imagine. My cousin basically died like that, drowning in a backyard pond when she was like 3 years old. It wasn't even as deep as her waist but once she got under water, she paralyzed. Split the family in half. I mean, that was over twenty years ago but I still sincerely hope that my aunt never watched this movie...
I hope movies like this continue to reach the top of your recommendations, and that no one tips you off that any particular movie has a good twist when it does reach the top. Being completely blindsided like you were here is the absolute best way to experience stories like this for the first time.
Even better once you rewatch it. Then you'll notice things like how all the orderlies, nurses, and inmates glance at Mark Ruffalo when they're talking about Dr. Sheehan - and that in the first scene with Teddy, there's chains on the boat cause he was restrained before they started his therapy 👀.
Hey Spartan and Pudgey, You give praise to Martin Scorsese, and he did an amazing job with images and misdirection. This is also a testament to the writing in the novel. Marty did a master job at adapting the novel into an amazing screenplay to give a more cinematic look to the movie. ----------- You guys went down the Sci-fi tunnel, going down the Scorsese path is an amazing journey as well. --------- Some of his best flicks are, "Taxi Driver", "Goodfellas", "The Departed", "Casino", "Raging Bull", "Gangs of New York", "The Wolf of Wallstreet", "The Aviator" and so many more.
after finding out the truth, that hallucination when the little girl asks him "why didn't you save me ?" and him replying "i tried, i wanted to but by the time i got there, it was too late" hits different he also has the same trauma from the war, by the time they got to that camp, they killed all the jews, that's why sometimes he sees his kids in those piles of frozen bodies.
Best reaction to this movie. I had such a fear you two would guess it from the start because you're SO good at thinking critically in these mysteries! It's much more fun to see you experience the reveal! Such an incredibly layered film that you'll catch something new with every watch. Bravo to everyone involved with this piece of art. Thanks for the reaction!
Got to thank the YT algorithm for directing me to your channel, awesome reactions! The novel that this is based on is written by Dennis Lehane - a remarkable novelist and screenwriter, known for his haunting plot twists. He's had several other books of his adapted into films: Mystic River, Gone Baby Gone, The Drop, and there's also his TV mini-series Black Bird. All critically acclaimed, visceral, and definitely worth checking out.
One of the most eye opening scenes is when they’re interviewing patients. Watch Chuck and watch the female patient as soon as Teddy mentions Shean’s name; she looks right at Chuck. You’ll also notice Chuck’s reaction when Teddy snaps at the male patient. He grabs Teddy and looks over to the nurses to signal to them to wait, as if trying to calm them down and not immediately grab Teddy and sedate him.
That violin theme is the same music from Arrival. It's called 'On the Nature of Daylight' and it's used in a bunch of movies and tv shows including the last of us
This movie is such a masterpiece, really showing us how it truly is to be insane, cause it all feels real from the mad ones perspective. Such an amazing way to portray how confusing the world around would be, and the doubt in who to trust etc. This one needs a second watch, it is actually insane how many details you then will notice, when you know the truth. Also for sure think he was sane in the end, but couldn´t bear to live with it. Also notice how he always has his sigarettes lightened by others, as he is not allowed to have fire since he is a dangerous patient! So trippy
@@dingobaby9600watching the movie I didn’t even think it was supposed to be ambiguous lol I thought he literally did just regress because it was that traumatizing. So cool to learn the nuance, this is why I love watching reactions!
@@dingobaby9600: I left it on 4-5 comments; not exactly "every single comment. And I only left it on those which were erroneously stating that the intentionally ambiguous ending was somehow certain, and several of them acknowledged that it is indeed ambiguous and not actually certain. So no, it's not "just me".
Hey Spartan and Pudgey, I've watch over 2000 movies in my lifetime, and I could tell you none of us would get the eventually plot twist to this movie until the very end. ------ That's what makes this type of writing and directing so amazing and spellbinding. ----- Props to Leo and Martin Scorsese for taking us on a wild wild ride.
I actually did. Sure it was probably a fluke but they do mention early on that they sometimes role-play. I can't remember where cuz it wasn't in this vid, but I'm sure they are outside when they talk about it if I remember correctly. So I said oh, I bet he's the patient then. My Dad was like. Nah, and dismissed it, but then later on he said. How the fuck did you get that!
I didn't figure it out but it does seem like there are a lot of clues, so that someone trying to figure it out would realize there's a decent chance he might be a patient (as Spartan and Pudgey did). What's great about the movie is that figuring that out doesn't ruin it, because what's important is WHY he is a patient and what happened to put him there, and realizing that the doctors are all good guys trying to help him. No one figured all of that out, and the people who did realize "he's a patient" were surprised to realize how much deeper the twist really is.
@@bobdonda you can't realize the clues on the first watch, or even the 2nd watch. Since you're not sure if the story teller is telling you the truth or not. You are not sure what is real and what is in the head of Andrew Laeddis. -------- Which is what makes it such a compelling story. ------ Plus, I sometimes want to be taken on the ride in the movie.
Love your reaction as always. I also didnt figure it out on my first watch. I was with Teddy whole time, even in that lighthouse conversation i was like "bro they are playing you". haha
I read the book several years ago on a flight home from Paris. It was the fastest 11 hour flight I’ve ever had. The movie was great but the book rocked my world. It was one of those books you audibly gasp to
The first watch is shocking, the second is so rewarding. You notice the hint drops and appreciate the writing and directing more. Watching people go on the mental journey they do when watching this is always more entertaining than when it's a comedy or horror. Great reaction
My favorite little hint is when Teddy says “screw their sense of calm” when that’s quite literally how he will get his permanent sense of calm in the end
Poor Spartan aged 10 years watching this movie but he DID get the ending! DiCaprio WAS healed, but he just couldn’t live with the trauma of what happened with his family. He’d rather die as the hero detective persona, even knowing it wasn’t real, than live as the man who “killed” his whole family
This is one of my favorites, I remember my first time watch thinking everything was a simulation of a theropy argument where Di Caprio was the therapist and Mark Ruffalo was the patient, in the end I understood Di Caprio was the patient and wanted to die a hero. Cant remember many other movies I've watched that can compare with this one. Great reaction btw!
Martin Scorsese directed this film, one of the all time great directors. He has worked with Leo several times and all of their films are worth watching!
Great reaction! A couple of other twisty psychological thrillers you can check out are The Game (1997) and Memento (2000). Memento is another Christopher Nolan film. His first, in fact, so you'll probably enjoy it.
there were clues from the start that are so satisfying when you watch again knowing he's insane. his aversion to water is a big tell sign. the very first scene in the movie has him getting sick from sea sickness. anytime something is going down or he's going to leave there's a storm and heavy rain. the scene you guys found peculiar, with the woman drinking a glass of water but then there's nothing in the glass, is another tell sign to do with water. he either blocks it out or gets hindrances from water as a defense mechanism because of how his children were drowned
I can't say I 'figured it out', per say, but when I saw the original advertisements when it was first released, I guessed the twist that Leo was actually a patient. The movie is so well constructed.
Great to see you get into the writing of this movie. It is an underrated experience in its own category. Not only excellent writing of the mystery element, but identity and the lies we tell ourselves to make existence bearable
This is one of the best movies to sit and watch twice in a row if it's your first time watching it. It's like watching two different movies. As soon as you figure out the twist you can go back and see all of the hints and how almost it's so obvious.
I love how at the very start of the intro to the hospital, there are so many elements (barbed wire, working skinny patients, the woman without hair, the iron gates, etc.) that connect to the concentration camp.
can you imagine just the fact this movie exists(and the book of course) and generation after generation can enjoy this story, like this, with those actors. Amazing.
12:23 I've pointed this out before. This song plays in The Last of Us episode 3 and in Arrival as well. It's called "on the nature of daylight" and it's so beautiful. In The Last of Us this music plays while Frank was having his last day alive, he'd decided not to live with cancer, so he would have his last day on his willingness. And in Arrival it plays at those perfect beginning and ending scenes
The issues covered in this movie and with society in general, most people think they can solve mental illness the problem on their own. ------- Leonardo taught he could handle his wife, until she killed the kids. -------- On the other end, even if you know the person has a problem and you seek to get them help, they may not accept the help or be ready to accept the help. ------- It's such a tricky tricky tricky situation.
I have to say that I ABSOLUTELY LOVE this movie!!! I love the 'experiment' that they were conducting and I am so sad because it didn't work.... just goes to show you how HUGE mental health really is! *I have to add this specific comment, because I forgot how you just, as you watch this movie, it takes you on a 'trip' and as you watch it, you are just getting more perplexed as the movie goes on, and then BAM! the ending just kinda blows you away!
15:12 Pudgey: Pudgey knows. Spartan: [?] you just voice everything. Reminds me of story of two men with one rifle who were squirrel hunting. One man had a stutter and the other had the shakes. The stuttering man had the rifle when they saw their first squirrel. He took careful aim, pulled the trigger, and missed. As agreed, he handed the rifle to the the Shaker. He was unable to hold the rifle steadily. The barrel was jumping all over the place. The Shaker pulled the trigger and hit the squirrel which fell out of the tree. The Stutterer looked at his companion and said, "W-w-well n-no won-won-der. You-you were-were aiming at-at the whole-whole damn tree."
This movie is one of the biggest mindf*** films ever made. It's crazy how many hints about whats actually going on you notice on rewatch and it gives you a way better understanding. What a great movie...
The hallucinations are some of the best cinematography I've ever seen. The Nazi camp, the smoke flowing back into the cigarette, the scenes with his wife. All leave me with my mouth open
This movie is absolutely worth a re-watch, just to see all the details, how staff behave around them - even notice Leo's mis-fitted coat, because it probably belongs to one of the guards.
Fantastic video and Shutter Island is a master craft in movie making, Leo definitely deserved accolades for his role that he didn't get and unfortunately this movie doesn't get the great recognition it deserves either.
Requires an immediate rewatch to experience all the clues and subtle hints that are hidden in plain sight from the first lines through to the twist reveal.
What a great reaction. Very pure. This my friends, is Sir (😅) Martin Scorsese. My top three in directors. He doesn’t do just thrillers. But I believe he reminds us that films are art. Among some other geniuses. Tbh I’m jealous you just found him, enjoy the ride! PS. I did not figure out the ending the first time. PS2. This movie has one of my favorite last lines : “ - "This place makes me wonder... Which would be worse, to live as a monster, or to die as a good man?"
"What do you think is worse, to live as a monster? Or to die as a good man" This line solidifies that Andrew knows reality, he just no longer wants to remember it. He chooses to get lobotomized by pretending to have regressed into the fake persona of Teddy Very powerful ending
To me it’s never been a question that he knew at the end. He just decided he couldn’t live with it. He chose to go as the good man he created than live as the man he became. It wasn’t until years later that I even knew people were divided on it 😅
This completely tripped us out! what an insane twist
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What twist? Ive not seen it yet.
Yeah, I don’t think he relapsed. He just didn’t want to live with the memories anymore.
He didn’t relapse. Anyone who thought that didn’t get the ending.
@@nathanlindahl8336they’ve said it was purposely vague so it could be either but ok mastermind 🙄
@@AL-fl4jk they said that to make those people feel better. If he did relapse why would he suddenly ask him that question about living as a monster?
Oh my goshhh! You’re right! Every time he remembers it’s simply too traumatizing. Many would rather be dead/lobotomized than an experience like that 💔 Tell me why I’ve seen this several times and still didn’t get it. lol and I’m a cinephile I pay close attention
@@AL-fl4jkno no, get it right, scorsese said the studio felt the need to pretend it was vague, but anyone who didn’t understand shouldn’t be watching his movies anyway
I love how at the very beginning almost every single hospital employee is super nervous and on edge. We are made to think it's because of the "missing patient" but its actually everyone being absolutely terrified of Leo.
They’re not really terrified, they just don’t want to spoil the experiment.
@aj897 Ladis is the most dangerous inmate they have and has badly injured people in the past. There's a reason he's up for a lobotomy.
@@aj897 Ben Kingsley's character describes Leo as the most dangerous patient in the facility
@@aj897 They've been used to being met with violence from him for years whenever they try to deny his delusion, they're on edge around him at all times because of that mainly.
@@aj897they're terrified
The fact that DiCaprio didn’t win an Oscar for his performance in this movie, is a crime against acting. He truly showed in depth emotions for every scene. Everything was heart wrenching and he embodied everything he was supposed too
that just shows those awards are not worth anything
He won for The Revenant but I think he deserves one for most films he’s been in, man’s a true actor among actors
I agree, and there are a lot of actors in certain movies who should have won or be nominated and aren't and really should be
Well I suppose if you said so it must be true...
He deserved and won the best actor Oscar for his role in The Revenant.
The ending makes it clear that he knew the reality but chose to pretend he was still in the fantasy, ending his agony with a lobotomy. That amazing ending always makes me think!
It's obviously not "clear", and meant to be ambiguous, but I agree that it's certainly what they're hinting at.
@@hoon_sol I don't see how it can be read any other way. If they wanted it to be ambiguous they did a poor job at it lol
Yeah the line " is it better to live as a monster, or die a good man" makes it super clear
@@zanchi1233:
It hints at the fact that he is indeed conscious of it and choosing to have the lobotomy. However, it remains ambiguous, and not at all "super clear". It's also a possibility that he simply regressed.
It's a bit complicated. Scorsese didn't want a vague ending, but the studio did so he made a poorly executed vague ending that isn't actually vague. Just seems vague to people who either desperately want the mystery or just weren't really paying attention.
Scorsese also said that anyone who thinks the ending is vague shouldn't be watching it in the first place. Lol
the ending made this movie 10x better for me, the fact that he fake regressed and accepted the fate of the lobotomy
You don't know that for a fact. It's hinted at, but it's obviously intentionally ambiguous.
@@hoon_sol I think it’s quite clear, they strongly* hinted at it for a reason
@@hoon_solThe signs are there. He was fully aware in the end and chose to be lobotomized
@@hoon_solno its definitely a fact. its pretty clear
@@AnonymousSaiyan:
Try reading my comment again. Did I ever say the signs are not there? No, I didn't say that. In fact, I explicitly said that there are indeed signs of it being the case, it's strongly hinted at. But it's ambiguous, and far from certain. You trying to state it as certain fact again proves that you've missed the point entirely.
The glass of the water scene hits different when you know the truth
If there is any movie that needs a second watch, it's this one. It feels like a completely different movie the second time around.
Absolutely.
Yes! I’ve watched it a few times and just now seeing at the end he might’ve pretended to be crazy again.
You’re right.
The Prestige is another one and The Sixth Sense of course.
@@user-blob Yeah, I was just about to say The Sixth Sense too. This movie is literally better the 2nd time around IMO
Or a third time.
Some of the trivia about this movie is wild. Shutter Island is an anagram of "truths and lies", and "truths/denials". The weather in this movie reflects Laeddis' mindset, the more confused he is the worse the storm is, and it's a bright and sunny day at the end.
52:34 Spartan caught it right away, good job brother. Yes, Andrew picked to go out instead of suffer anymore.
"Pudgy knoooows"
Me: " ehhhh i don't think you dooo. "😂
I thought the same lol, bit premature there Pudgy! 🤣🤣
In my opinion, this was, by far, the best performance of Leonardo Di Caprio
hes insane in wolf of wall street as well
@@paulc8588 I mean Revenant was great but the character was pretty subdued and one-dimensional. That was more a lifetime achievement Oscar than anything else
thats a hot take if i've ever heard one
hes the goat. titanic, inception, the departed, wolf of wall street, shutter island, catch me if u can, django, revanent
i wouldnt say by far but i would agree that between this and wolf of wall street
If you remembered, Here DiCaprio never lighted his own cigarettes, it's always Chuck or someone lighting it, referring it to the rules he's been under in this asylum for 2 years and that specific rule was a mental patient should not be handling weapons in this case 'a lighter' and he too never hesitated someone lighting it cz he's instinct has been acclamatized living here for that long time.
Also the woman he was interviewing first asked Chuck to go away then only she wrote her out of the rehearsal message to him. Cz he was afraid of Chuck who she knew was the primary doctor Sheehern.
There are many more Easter eggs, I love watching movies having rewatchable factor to it. The icing on the cake is it's also got the hallmarks of a horror movie!
Great point, I never noticed that tip and I've watched the movie 15 or 20 times. I think actually want to let my brain be fooled to and go along with the ride the movie is taking us on.
One of my favourite hints is when the Deputy Warden asks for Chuck's gun. He's not used to handling weapons so it takes him a while to unclip his holster
it's actually the EXACT same music as arrival. "on the nature of daylight" is the song name
Just watched the uncut version on Patreon. The funniest thing was their obsession with the crazy lady in the garden at the beginning, they were really expecting her to show up again!
When Leonardo realizes his children are dead in the lake is so heart-wrenching. --------- His yelp is so primal like a wild banshee is so intense. ------ That is beyond acting. He makes you feel like his whole world collapsed at that moment. ------- Plus the director uses a great overhead shot to give the desperation needed for the scene. Great writing, acting, and directing. Great movie. --------- Such an Oscar worthy performance.
Yep agree, one of the best DiCaprio acting moments
He subconsciously hates water. Also, fire is a big sign that his imagination is getting carried away
Water = Reality, Fire = Fiction
This is one of those films that really reveals itself on a rewatch.. there are so many tells throughout the film that it's almost comical, but they're all cleverly done and juuuust miniscule enough that you'll let them slide the first time around.
My personal favorite is Andrew interviewing the staff, and the nurse trying to describe the "normalcy" of their average workday keeps glancing at Ruffalo's character whenever "Sheehan" gets brought up.
Have a 2nd watch you'll notice so many clues, the way staff keeps looking at Chuck for validation when speaking to Andrew, the doctors reaction when Andrew is putting pieces together and the edits all give you so much information
This movie has the biggest twist of all - the villains are good.
one of if not my favorite psychological films ever, hope y’all liked it as much as I did.
In every scene there's fire, it means he's hallucinating.
OMG I LAUGHED SO HARD AT YOUR INTERACTION AT THE BEGGINING LOL. You two are absolutly GOLD together ❤❤
Me too. Hilarious!
"What would be worse? To live as a monster, or die as a good man"
That was him basically saying he wanted to die with that fantasy in his head because it's better than reality. Yes a lobotomy isn't technically death but its pretty close to it.
He was saying that prefer to die as good man now that he remembers everything, getting the lobotomy voluntary, rather than live as a monster whether is repeating the act over and over again or having to live with what he did.
This movie couldn't be more perfect for Pudgey. She keeps a keen eye for weird goings on and I can't think of many movies with more of that than Shutter Island. Great reaction guys!
this film is a masterpiece. probably one of the best movies ive seen. gotta watch it over and over to realize all the details
This movie is so insane on a rewatch. Every single scene takes on a completely new meaning. ALSO! There is a huge hint to what's really going on throughout: fire/smoke is a lie, water is the truth. Pay attention to the smoke, fire and water.
This is arguably the most underappreciated movie of all time. Its a 10/10. Everybody thinks its a 10/10 but not a lot talked about it when it came out.
you know when this was one of the first movies i've seen i used to talk about it a lot and thought it's a 10/10, since then my opinion simmered down a bit, but it's still a great psychological thriller fs
It was absolutely not underappreciated. It was and still is VERY popular.
@@Lilithly It was very divisive when it came out... 69% on RT. This film is the definition of underappreciated.
@@TheJerbolhonestly I love this movie but I can see why. They should’ve made it even more mysterious. Watching it back, there were a few scenes they could’ve executed better and made the reveal obvious. butttt I’ve also seen it a few times lol
This movie is actually not for movie theatres probably that's why this movie wasn't trending a lot when it was released.
47:46 Don't have to imagine. My cousin basically died like that, drowning in a backyard pond when she was like 3 years old. It wasn't even as deep as her waist but once she got under water, she paralyzed.
Split the family in half.
I mean, that was over twenty years ago but I still sincerely hope that my aunt never watched this movie...
Sorry about that
18:25 and 19:02 Pudgey's intuition is genuinely eerie.
I hope movies like this continue to reach the top of your recommendations, and that no one tips you off that any particular movie has a good twist when it does reach the top.
Being completely blindsided like you were here is the absolute best way to experience stories like this for the first time.
Even better once you rewatch it. Then you'll notice things like how all the orderlies, nurses, and inmates glance at Mark Ruffalo when they're talking about Dr. Sheehan - and that in the first scene with Teddy, there's chains on the boat cause he was restrained before they started his therapy 👀.
So I guess Pudgey was right in the intro, it IS Movie Wednesday on RUclips 😂
Hey Spartan and Pudgey, You give praise to Martin Scorsese, and he did an amazing job with images and misdirection. This is also a testament to the writing in the novel. Marty did a master job at adapting the novel into an amazing screenplay to give a more cinematic look to the movie. ----------- You guys went down the Sci-fi tunnel, going down the Scorsese path is an amazing journey as well. --------- Some of his best flicks are, "Taxi Driver", "Goodfellas", "The Departed", "Casino", "Raging Bull", "Gangs of New York", "The Wolf of Wallstreet", "The Aviator" and so many more.
A second vote for The Departed!
That violin song was also used in The Last of Us show, during the episode with Bill and Frank while they’re having their final day together.
after finding out the truth, that hallucination when the little girl asks him "why didn't you save me ?" and him replying "i tried, i wanted to but by the time i got there, it was too late" hits different
he also has the same trauma from the war, by the time they got to that camp, they killed all the jews, that's why sometimes he sees his kids in those piles of frozen bodies.
Best reaction to this movie. I had such a fear you two would guess it from the start because you're SO good at thinking critically in these mysteries! It's much more fun to see you experience the reveal! Such an incredibly layered film that you'll catch something new with every watch. Bravo to everyone involved with this piece of art. Thanks for the reaction!
Got to thank the YT algorithm for directing me to your channel, awesome reactions! The novel that this is based on is written by Dennis Lehane - a remarkable novelist and screenwriter, known for his haunting plot twists. He's had several other books of his adapted into films: Mystic River, Gone Baby Gone, The Drop, and there's also his TV mini-series Black Bird. All critically acclaimed, visceral, and definitely worth checking out.
♥️🙏🏼 glad you enjoyed!
One of the most eye opening scenes is when they’re interviewing patients. Watch Chuck and watch the female patient as soon as Teddy mentions Shean’s name; she looks right at Chuck. You’ll also notice Chuck’s reaction when Teddy snaps at the male patient. He grabs Teddy and looks over to the nurses to signal to them to wait, as if trying to calm them down and not immediately grab Teddy and sedate him.
This film is amazing. Great performances.The end is heartbreaking.
That violin theme is the same music from Arrival. It's called 'On the Nature of Daylight' and it's used in a bunch of movies and tv shows including the last of us
In the beginning of the movie, whenever anyone mentions Dr. Sheehan, they glance at Mark Ruffalo.
My god the intro has me rolling 😂😂😂
"Who is this director man?" Just one of the greatest of all time. 😇
This movie is such a masterpiece, really showing us how it truly is to be insane, cause it all feels real from the mad ones perspective. Such an amazing way to portray how confusing the world around would be, and the doubt in who to trust etc. This one needs a second watch, it is actually insane how many details you then will notice, when you know the truth. Also for sure think he was sane in the end, but couldn´t bear to live with it. Also notice how he always has his sigarettes lightened by others, as he is not allowed to have fire since he is a dangerous patient! So trippy
Great reaction. Watching this movie without knowing anything about it is the best way. I also knew nothing about it except for the poster.
This is an amazing rewatch movie. You see so many things that clue you in to realize he is a patient the whole time.
DiCaprio's character faked regressing, because he couldn't bear living with his guilt. He deliberately chose to be lobotomised.
You don't know that for a fact. It's ambiguous. But the possibility is of course hinted at.
@@hoon_solyou're clearly the only one saying it's ambiguous lol. Under every single comment. Maybe it's just you...😂
@@hoon_sol dude you don't need to comment this constantly lol
@@dingobaby9600watching the movie I didn’t even think it was supposed to be ambiguous lol I thought he literally did just regress because it was that traumatizing. So cool to learn the nuance, this is why I love watching reactions!
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I left it on 4-5 comments; not exactly "every single comment. And I only left it on those which were erroneously stating that the intentionally ambiguous ending was somehow certain, and several of them acknowledged that it is indeed ambiguous and not actually certain. So no, it's not "just me".
Hey Spartan and Pudgey, I've watch over 2000 movies in my lifetime, and I could tell you none of us would get the eventually plot twist to this movie until the very end. ------ That's what makes this type of writing and directing so amazing and spellbinding. ----- Props to Leo and Martin Scorsese for taking us on a wild wild ride.
I actually did. Sure it was probably a fluke but they do mention early on that they sometimes role-play. I can't remember where cuz it wasn't in this vid, but I'm sure they are outside when they talk about it if I remember correctly. So I said oh, I bet he's the patient then. My Dad was like. Nah, and dismissed it, but then later on he said. How the fuck did you get that!
@@dannyKurt That was a truly impressive catch on your part. Great work
I didn't figure it out but it does seem like there are a lot of clues, so that someone trying to figure it out would realize there's a decent chance he might be a patient (as Spartan and Pudgey did).
What's great about the movie is that figuring that out doesn't ruin it, because what's important is WHY he is a patient and what happened to put him there, and realizing that the doctors are all good guys trying to help him. No one figured all of that out, and the people who did realize "he's a patient" were surprised to realize how much deeper the twist really is.
@@bobdonda you can't realize the clues on the first watch, or even the 2nd watch. Since you're not sure if the story teller is telling you the truth or not. You are not sure what is real and what is in the head of Andrew Laeddis. -------- Which is what makes it such a compelling story. ------ Plus, I sometimes want to be taken on the ride in the movie.
Love your reaction as always. I also didnt figure it out on my first watch. I was with Teddy whole time, even in that lighthouse conversation i was like "bro they are playing you". haha
You guys will LOVE the rewatch of this.
I read the book several years ago on a flight home from Paris. It was the fastest 11 hour flight I’ve ever had. The movie was great but the book rocked my world. It was one of those books you audibly gasp to
It's crazy I legit just saw this movie for the first time yesterday since I'v had heard from many that it was their favourite movie
The first watch is shocking, the second is so rewarding. You notice the hint drops and appreciate the writing and directing more. Watching people go on the mental journey they do when watching this is always more entertaining than when it's a comedy or horror. Great reaction
My favorite little hint is when Teddy says “screw their sense of calm” when that’s quite literally how he will get his permanent sense of calm in the end
Poor Spartan aged 10 years watching this movie but he DID get the ending! DiCaprio WAS healed, but he just couldn’t live with the trauma of what happened with his family. He’d rather die as the hero detective persona, even knowing it wasn’t real, than live as the man who “killed” his whole family
This is one of my favorites, I remember my first time watch thinking everything was a simulation of a theropy argument where Di Caprio was the therapist and Mark Ruffalo was the patient, in the end I understood Di Caprio was the patient and wanted to die a hero.
Cant remember many other movies I've watched that can compare with this one. Great reaction btw!
"Who is this director!?" Ahahah this Director is Martin Scorcese. Arguably the best living Director. He is absolutely amazing
Lol I laughed so hard when he said that ha.
Martin Scorsese directed this film, one of the all time great directors. He has worked with Leo several times and all of their films are worth watching!
Great reaction!
A couple of other twisty psychological thrillers you can check out are The Game (1997) and Memento (2000). Memento is another Christopher Nolan film. His first, in fact, so you'll probably enjoy it.
Nolan's first film was Following
Spartan:
Who is this director man?
A: None other than Martin Scorsese. Yup.
there were clues from the start that are so satisfying when you watch again knowing he's insane. his aversion to water is a big tell sign. the very first scene in the movie has him getting sick from sea sickness. anytime something is going down or he's going to leave there's a storm and heavy rain. the scene you guys found peculiar, with the woman drinking a glass of water but then there's nothing in the glass, is another tell sign to do with water. he either blocks it out or gets hindrances from water as a defense mechanism because of how his children were drowned
Coming out a bit after midnight, it is movie Wednesday in the US!
I can't say I 'figured it out', per say, but when I saw the original advertisements when it was first released, I guessed the twist that Leo was actually a patient. The movie is so well constructed.
Great to see you get into the writing of this movie. It is an underrated experience in its own category. Not only excellent writing of the mystery element, but identity and the lies we tell ourselves to make existence bearable
This is one of the best movies to sit and watch twice in a row if it's your first time watching it. It's like watching two different movies.
As soon as you figure out the twist you can go back and see all of the hints and how almost it's so obvious.
I love how at the very start of the intro to the hospital, there are so many elements (barbed wire, working skinny patients, the woman without hair, the iron gates, etc.) that connect to the concentration camp.
Hey Pudgey, your intro was so cute and hilarious. I loved it. Trying to stay on top of the time zone for your viewers was precious beyond belief.
can you imagine just the fact this movie exists(and the book of course) and generation after generation can enjoy this story, like this, with those actors. Amazing.
You guys have been on a great run for films! Dont stop!
12:23 I've pointed this out before. This song plays in The Last of Us episode 3 and in Arrival as well. It's called "on the nature of daylight" and it's so beautiful. In The Last of Us this music plays while Frank was having his last day alive, he'd decided not to live with cancer, so he would have his last day on his willingness. And in Arrival it plays at those perfect beginning and ending scenes
This is a great movie, excited to see yalls reaction
So he basically just put it on at the end so that he could permanently forget via lobotomy.
The departed HAS TO BE NEXTTTTT
I always forget that it’s winter in the southern hemisphere
It was you guys that got me hooked on reaction videos to begin with.
The issues covered in this movie and with society in general, most people think they can solve mental illness the problem on their own. ------- Leonardo taught he could handle his wife, until she killed the kids. -------- On the other end, even if you know the person has a problem and you seek to get them help, they may not accept the help or be ready to accept the help. ------- It's such a tricky tricky tricky situation.
This intro is chaotic… 😂😂😂😂😂 You 2 are the cutest.
I have to say that I ABSOLUTELY LOVE this movie!!! I love the 'experiment' that they were conducting and I am so sad because it didn't work.... just goes to show you how HUGE mental health really is! *I have to add this specific comment, because I forgot how you just, as you watch this movie, it takes you on a 'trip' and as you watch it, you are just getting more perplexed as the movie goes on, and then BAM! the ending just kinda blows you away!
15:12
Pudgey: Pudgey knows.
Spartan: [?] you just voice everything.
Reminds me of story of two men with one rifle who were squirrel hunting. One man had a stutter and the other had the shakes. The stuttering man had the rifle when they saw their first squirrel. He took careful aim, pulled the trigger, and missed. As agreed, he handed the rifle to the the Shaker. He was unable to hold the rifle steadily. The barrel was jumping all over the place. The Shaker pulled the trigger and hit the squirrel which fell out of the tree. The Stutterer looked at his companion and said, "W-w-well n-no won-won-der. You-you were-were aiming at-at the whole-whole damn tree."
Now, rewatch it.
tldr: NAAAAURRRR what you think at the end thaaurrrrrrrrr?
Glad you've watched it, I watch probably 5-6 reactions a year and I swear they are never the same for the people 🤯
This movie is one of the biggest mindf*** films ever made. It's crazy how many hints about whats actually going on you notice on rewatch and it gives you a way better understanding. What a great movie...
The hallucinations are some of the best cinematography I've ever seen. The Nazi camp, the smoke flowing back into the cigarette, the scenes with his wife. All leave me with my mouth open
This movie is absolutely worth a re-watch, just to see all the details, how staff behave around them - even notice Leo's mis-fitted coat, because it probably belongs to one of the guards.
Fantastic video and Shutter Island is a master craft in movie making, Leo definitely deserved accolades for his role that he didn't get and unfortunately this movie doesn't get the great recognition it deserves either.
"This music reminds me of Arrival"
Max Richter - On The Nature Of Daylight
(also in Arrival)
Requires an immediate rewatch to experience all the clues and subtle hints that are hidden in plain sight from the first lines through to the twist reveal.
"The Game" is also a great movie to watch.
Dude
The intro is just too funny 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Pudgey yapping so much during important scenes and camera cut off is so annoying...
What a great reaction. Very pure. This my friends, is Sir (😅) Martin Scorsese. My top three in directors. He doesn’t do just thrillers. But I believe he reminds us that films are art. Among some other geniuses. Tbh I’m jealous you just found him, enjoy the ride! PS. I did not figure out the ending the first time. PS2. This movie has one of my favorite last lines : “ - "This place makes me wonder... Which would be worse, to live as a monster, or to die as a good man?"
"What do you think is worse, to live as a monster? Or to die as a good man"
This line solidifies that Andrew knows reality, he just no longer wants to remember it. He chooses to get lobotomized by pretending to have regressed into the fake persona of Teddy
Very powerful ending
Pudgeys flannel is actually fire
To me it’s never been a question that he knew at the end. He just decided he couldn’t live with it.
He chose to go as the good man he created than live as the man he became. It wasn’t until years later that I even knew people were divided on it 😅
Now The Departed can be next!!!
Btw - you can rearrange the letters for “Shutter Island” to… “Truth and Lies”
Good catch in the music. It's "On the Nature of Daylight" by Max Richter, and it is also used in Arrival. It's how I found this movie!
Yes! the theme song is the same one used in arrival, its so good
love reactions to these kinds of groovy films S&P! Keep it up.