It's £550 in the UK, and well worth the extra cost. It's only £171 more than the standard SPR777 and for that you get a sapphire crystal with cyclops, ceramic bezel insert, a metal bracelet and a new textured dial. I don't really understand the negativity it's getting. It has to be said though, I too was sceptical about the cyclops until I saw this video but I think Bruce's photography has won me over.
Just bought a 2 month old one for 50% of the retail the seller had only wore it once when he tried it on in the Shop, it is a beautiful watch and I am really pleased.
Who's complaining? Now, finally Seiko gives us what the microbrands give us, sapphire, ceramic, and of course a small premium because you're getting the Seiko brand name and not an unknown. The Seiko name means something and has value.
Cool video Bruce 👍 My Seiko AD just got these in...they’re legit. Much better pricing in North America- California, OC. The waffle dial is very nice in IRL and the brushed hands & hour markers are done very well on the green & black versions. The Great White has the polished hands & hour markers. IMO Seiko did a great job on these King Turtles 🍻
Seiko is losing their minds with those prices! I see too many options at the Sub 1000 dollar level to justify asking 800+ for a turtle. To each their own but geez that's a tall order to ask from a consumer. At the very most it should be 650 retail.
@Jee Vang Trust me I wanted to say $400 and with $650 retail that's where it would land on the grey market. That was my reasoning for the figure. Due to marketability they have to push it upward to separate it from the standard version. I also think the SKX should be no more than $250. Movement on the thing is just not accurate and by default lands it in the $250 category.
@Tom The Fish I think GS is also not worth what they are asking. 2018 pricing seemed to be okay but now they've made a mad dash in price increases. If I'm not mistake. A new CEO took over and is they've made a bunch of "changes" to attempt to revive brand placement and recognition. Good luck with that. I continue to argue that Omega is pound for pound the best value in the mainstream segment. This is why I own the brand.
Great video, thanks Bruce. Saw this a few months back at an AD in Sydney for $499 AUD, last one in store and grabbed it. It's the cheapest watch I've ever bought, and probably the current favourite in my collection. It's comfortable, handsome and rugged., and at half the RRP it's value for money is unmatched.
800 USD? I can't speak for the JDM market, but AD's like Mimo's have these going for 595 USD, with additional discounts available (bringing it down to mid 400 USD).
Bought the green one recently. its a great watch. has amazing weight, love the hacking and hand winding compared to my old turtle the 6902 but i noticed the cyclops is slightly misaligned... but i think i can have that fixed, but i still love it. If u wanna get this watch fly to asia and but it cause i got mine brand new for $400 USD. I noticed its twice the price in the states.
At this price, the movement should have been upgraded to 6R35 with 70-hour power reserve like the new, upgraded Sumo. At least this upgrade of movement will be comparable to the new Sumo in terms of price and specifications and also justifies the huge price difference between this King Turtle and the standard Turtle. So what this Turtle uses ceramic bezel? Does it cost Seiko a tonne of money? It's negligible with economy of scale.
I don't think they want this new turtle to over shadow the new sumo. The problem is that Seiko is releasing too many models these days. It's the same story with the skx. If they upgraded it the right way, it would outsell the mini turtle. They should have never released the mini turtle.
And you still get a pressed clasp! Also, magnification on a turtle? If you cant read the turtle day/date without magnification then they might as well have put it in braille.
That is 3x+ more than I spent on PADI...admittedly I am planning to get a sapphire crystal and bezel insert. I am sure they will come down in price and be more comparable in price. I love the kanji date as well. This new Turtle is really cool. Thank you for a great review Bruce :)
Bruce, great video as always. I love this new design of the turtle - I actually think it's an upgrade visually and like the cyclops. But that price IS excessive. For a stamped clasp and a 4r movement, that's unacceptable. You asked towards the end about what you could get for $800 - the Triton is a better watch for 300-350 Grey market. If seiko put in a 6r movement or had a great bracelet, I could tolerate the price. As it is, not for me. I too love Seikos, and recently snagged a Srpb67j1 at a great deal, so I don't want to come across as hater, but the price rises lately are infuriating.
Just got a Save The Ocean ( SRPE39K1 ) the other day - my first watch of the more expensive kind (in my world that is). And I really like it :P It's not at subtile as the grenade dial version but man is it nice to wear and look at. I for one doesn't care at all about the clasp. Someone below mentioned that milled claps are bulkier and more unconfortable. Who likes that? Except for the bragging rights that is. The stamped clasps makes wonderful clicky noises when snapped together :p And that dial... Nomnom :P
They are pretty crazy asking for that kind of money. Spend a little bit more and get a Sinn, Oris, Tag. Or spend a lot less and just get a regular Turtle which is 90% of the watch that this is.
My Seikos get much more wrist time vs my oris/tags and tags are mediocre at best in quality and horrible at their rrp. My Balls, Fortis, B&M, ML, Tudors crap on Tags at same rrp from case, crystal, finishing. Heuer is a different story however.
BTW those markers aren't really applied, they are part of the dial mold. The dial is made of that silvery metal, stamped such that the indices are the highest "peaks". Then the dial is coated black, then a flat grinder is used to brush off the tops of the indices, resulting in a uniformly vertical brushing. Lastly, printing is applied, and lume is squished into the appropriate depressions.
Hi Bruce did you keep the watch? I’m considering getting one as a daily and I think with the ceramics and sapphire would be a great option. What do u think
i dont know if it was mentioned here but if you look at 1:45 at the number 5 on the datewheel it looks totally uneven, like handpainted? a machine print cant be that uneven. interesting is also how they do the printing on the dial, cause the dial is actually textured exactly to the printed letters. just my few cents, nice review as always bruce 👍
People complained about SRPD01K dawn grey edition being too expensive for a turtle. Now you get objectively 100$ worth of upgrades (if modding your own), but the watch costs 200$+ (50%) more. I personally think it does not compute.
John Destroyer it doesn’t compute. Unless you just have to have a Seiko there are better options. At the new price point, and it is a new price point not supported by the updates, the watch is competing against a different set of watches.
@@BruceWilliams The same was the case with the last turtle editions, which I have two of. There were better bangforbuck options, but I love Seiko since my father's watch was the same brand. Now they are even more expensive and I honestly cannot find an excuse to buy another one, although I like the new editions. I am well aware I can afford the new one too, but for that price point I would rather consider other watch types and manufacturers.
This watch is a big hit for me man!!! Dont give too crap about the bracelet, so long it looks decent on my wrist! Its the watch that counts! I don't look at the crown when the watch is on my wrist! This doesn't make the watch look cheap is any way for me! Just love the ceramic and the candy bar! £530, can't go wrong!
What is functionally wrong with a stamped clasp? All you internet people usually say is, "iT fEeLs cHeAp". What does cheap actually *mean*? I have Seikos with stamped clasps and they are bulkier and less comfortable. The forged clasp, being thicker, sticks out further from the clasp and digs into the wrist. Realize to argue about value things that are functional are more important than things that are arbitrary.
@@a_single_white_female I agree. Stamped clasp is by far more comfortable vs. Standard off the shelf milled clasp ..only clasp that is better is those milled, smoothed and contoured which usually comes on $10k+ watches. I actually like my jingly jujbilee on my vintage Rolex over my newer models.
@@a_single_white_female I don't mind stamped clasp either but in my experience the comfortable milled clasp can easily be done. The milled clasp on my Steinhart 39mm is the most comfortable and the quality is also amazing. It's not bulky at all like the clasp on my MM300.
Very nice looking watch from afar because of the price. No way in hell i'd pay that much for those upgrades. Seiko seems to be going in the wrong direction :/ Thanks for the videos though bud. Appreciate the content but dissapointed in seiko
The thing that made me stop buying Seikos is the bracelets / clasps. They need to step up their game on that part. I'm a huge fan of Seiko, I have an SKX and Tuna and a few other models that I won't ever sell. But, I find it hard to pull the trigger on Seiko anymore now that I've gotten into Oris. The bracelet quality on the Aquis is just incredible and makes it hard to go back to the feel of the Seikos.
I definitely do not recommend paying full retail for this. If you are in the USA, check for sales from Macy's. I got mine for $425 earlier this month and probably wouldn't pay any more than that.
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Hi Bruce. Love your channel. Curious to know what do you think of the new Seiko Monster Save the Ocean SBDY045? I just got one. Will be great if you can do a review. Cant find any review on YT.
I like my green King Turtle. It is beautiful. My only disappointment is that it keeps time at -20 sec/day . I know it is w/i Seiko margins for their 4R36 movements.
Today I received the SBDY047 as an early Valentines' gift. The list price was 65,000 JPY. I have always wanted a watch with kanji day and I'm very happy with this one.
Bruce it’s good to see that you are transparent that this is a paid promotion . Of course this then totally negates impartiality, In essence it’s an advertisement. For this to be shipped to the uk with taxes and import duty it would be nudging 1200 US dollars this is ridiculous. I can buy a a turtle for 350 including tax so why would I pay 750 bucks for a piece of sapphire and ceramic which in 2020 can be found on 100 buck . It’s time everyone started to speak out about how Seiko are taking people for fools .
Isn't the new Sumo about 800$ too? Sapphire etc. I like the Turtle shape though but it would be tough to pay this much for the upgrades when the standard Turtle is 409$ or less
You know I’ve been agonising over getting a discontinued 775 Which I love or this. The 775 can be found for £330 here in the UK on eBay. I’ve just seen this for £430. It really makes sense getting this doesn’t it. It really is the next level up. The 775 feels a little close to the SKX 007 and 009 I already have. This feels like something else entirely. An investment.
It's funny to me; after having bought four Seiko watches at an average of $1,000 each... this feels like a bargain to me now. :P I think this would look nice with a Beads of Rice bracelet.
I know people are crappin all over this new release, but aside from the tuna, the turtle is my favorite Seiko.... and good lord does the green dial version look awesome!! ALMOST makes me wanna sell my SRP775 and get that one! Great video Bruce! I love the production quality of your content! Stay blessed my friend.
Just got mine a few days ago, international version. Your review is spot on. Didn’t pay premium, but love this watch. I did replace the strap to an Uncle Seiko GL803 rubber strap since I think that makes it a true Turtle to me. This is simply a Seiko Submariner to me . Awesome review
Sapphire crystal, £35, ceramic insert £10 for my SKX007, 40 minutes playing around.......fair enough, no pressure test, but I’m happy. This looks good for a turtle, but I’ve never been a fan of the cushion case. Good video.
Although I’m sure the JDM version maybe a little nicer for 800$ you could buy 2 global release king turtles for that price I’ll take my chances with Mis-alignment for half the price just picked up the srpe03 for around $380 at that price the watch is truly a bargain not worth double for made in Japan IMO
What is the difference between this model and the SRPE03 model? The SRPE goes for about $500 and it seems to have the same features as the one in the video.
Maybe I’m wrong, but shouldn’t the fact that it’s made by one company lower the cost overall ? Also, the price would be justified if it had a better movement.
Nice review. Such a cool watch, with useful upgrades, but... A cyclops? Really? Also, I still can't forgive the Prospex P/S 'X' logo. Would look so much classier without the X-Factor/90's snowboard branding. Price wise, seems reasonable, just. Only starting to come up against Certina...
May grab me a non kanji model they can already be had for around the 450 dollar mark from asia and at this price its about similar or lower than some of the LE turtles previously released but with upgrades
Great review as always, Bruce. I really like it. I'm not averse to Seiko trying to move themselves up market either, good for them, so long as the products truly reflect it. Love that bezel, I hate the soft cheap look of the knurling on regular turtles and skx's. By sharpening that this watch already looks higher quality. Sapphire is a great upgrade. The Cyclops is my only reservation, so it is interesting that you appreciate it with watch in the metal. This watch is begging to be put on an Uncle Seiko rubber strap with that dial. Really like this one.
In the 1980's grandparents used to say that the Japanese just copied European designs. 40 yrs later Seiko puts a Royal Oak style facia and a Rolex-esk date magnifier on the cristal of its iconic Turtle... Looks good but a missed opportunity IMO.
Nice video. Seiko seems to be positioning themselves a step or two about microbrands on a features/quality basis. The case itself seemed a bit more polished, a bit more upscale, as well, no?
My long islander turtle micro turtle blows this away nh36 movement,dbl domed sapphire crystal, ceramic bezel,drilled lugs,sandblasted case all for $299.00 this new seiko turtle doesn’t come close!
How does it compare to the new Sumo minus ceramic and cyclops? I see your older Sumo and I love my newer version. Pricing is similar so curious if you spot any functional difference.
I sometimes think we hobby watch collectors are spoiled, the way we complain about new releases or updated versions having too high a price. I think a $300 differential is useful for showing how much value Seiko sees sapphire and ceramic bezels.
Great watch . Overpriced... I have Seiko 5 watches and I’m happy with the value ... but the inflated prices in their divers keeps me away. Maybe I’m just poor folk but I feel this watch should have been in the 500 dollar mark... I just bought a Zelos and I can’t help but feel that Seiko is just money hungry when I compare the features for the money you spend ... again I love this watch and I wish I had one ... but I can’t pay that it feels like Robbery
Nice work, Bruce! LIW Islander Turtle clones are $299 with nylon strap. No cyclops, luminous ceramic bezel. Dial is not as nice. Add $100 for a bracelet. The dial alone might be worth the extra $400, for the watch enthusiast.
Everything you described as a new feature could have $25 Quartz movement, so what makes this movement worth paying for as the facade is just that...surely I can't be the only person interested in what makes the watch tick.
I’m a simple man. I see new Bruce Williams video, I click, sit back and enjoy.
U guys know of ANY bezel replacements out there? It's my only complaint compared to bezel on SRP Turtle
It's £550 in the UK, and well worth the extra cost. It's only £171 more than the standard SPR777 and for that you get a sapphire crystal with cyclops, ceramic bezel insert, a metal bracelet and a new textured dial. I don't really understand the negativity it's getting. It has to be said though, I too was sceptical about the cyclops until I saw this video but I think Bruce's photography has won me over.
Bruce, your intros are the best! great videos and amazing channel. Thanks for doing what you do for the hobbyists like us!
Just picked up the King. Absolutely love the wrist feel. The ceramic/sapphire/cyclops makes a difference imo.
I really like the green dial one! I’m glad I held off until now so I could have the upgrades.
Just bought a 2 month old one for 50% of the retail the seller had only wore it once when he tried it on in the Shop, it is a beautiful watch and I am really pleased.
Who's complaining? Now, finally Seiko gives us what the microbrands give us, sapphire, ceramic, and of course a small premium because you're getting the Seiko brand name and not an unknown. The Seiko name means something and has value.
Are all these king turtles made in Japan?
So, 800 bucks for a R4 movement, stamped clasp, unsigned crown.
Seiko is taking a wrong turn lately... they won't have my money.
diobruttoporco I think for this price the spb121j1 is a nobrainer
I agree on the stamp clasp! Looks very cheap. Atleast give give it a milled- version! Would look and feel of better quality
You can find for 400 bucks already.
It's worth every penny.. And keep in mind you can find these for $400ish new. I paid around $380
Ehhh. I got this for about usd360 which is an amazing value. Pretty much impossible to find anywhere that sells this more than usd600 tbh
Love the cyclops. Need it at my age 😂
Nice, but over-priced. I know it's a macro shot, but you can see the next day poking out of the window and the printing looks sloppy.
Cool video Bruce 👍
My Seiko AD just got these in...they’re legit. Much better pricing in North America- California, OC.
The waffle dial is very nice in IRL and the brushed hands & hour markers are done very well on the green & black versions. The Great White has the polished hands & hour markers. IMO Seiko did a great job on these King Turtles 🍻
Seiko is losing their minds with those prices! I see too many options at the Sub 1000 dollar level to justify asking 800+ for a turtle. To each their own but geez that's a tall order to ask from a consumer. At the very most it should be 650 retail.
@Jee Vang Trust me I wanted to say $400 and with $650 retail that's where it would land on the grey market. That was my reasoning for the figure. Due to marketability they have to push it upward to separate it from the standard version. I also think the SKX should be no more than $250. Movement on the thing is just not accurate and by default lands it in the $250 category.
@Tom The Fish I think GS is also not worth what they are asking. 2018 pricing seemed to be okay but now they've made a mad dash in price increases. If I'm not mistake. A new CEO took over and is they've made a bunch of "changes" to attempt to revive brand placement and recognition. Good luck with that.
I continue to argue that Omega is pound for pound the best value in the mainstream segment. This is why I own the brand.
Tom The Fish UN is brilliant - grey market Maxi Diver Chronometer with caliber 118 in house is hands down best value on market , even over the SMP
800usd for this kind of bracelet is disgusting
Agree
congrats Bruce. your videos are always so good and so appreciated.
Great video, thanks Bruce. Saw this a few months back at an AD in Sydney for $499 AUD, last one in store and grabbed it. It's the cheapest watch I've ever bought, and probably the current favourite in my collection. It's comfortable, handsome and rugged., and at half the RRP it's value for money is unmatched.
Is it JDM press?
800 USD?
I can't speak for the JDM market, but AD's like Mimo's have these going for 595 USD, with additional discounts available (bringing it down to mid 400 USD).
Reshma Janglee I just purchased one for 375 with shipping from an AD.
@@therichardchannel River Edge Jewelers in NJ.
They just did 50% off on it, $315 shipped.
I bought the black face king turtle last week changed the bracelet for a Seiko black rubber strap
Absolutely love it.
Great review Bruce
Thanks Brian
Turtles always look better on rubber strap.
Just bought one for 400 its the green,with rubber strap love it !! The alingment is spot on as well
These are very cool. If the turtle fit me better I would pick one of these up.
Will my custom bezel insert for a regular turtle fit this model?
I’m told everything is interchangeable.
Bought the green one recently. its a great watch. has amazing weight, love the hacking and hand winding compared to my old turtle the 6902 but i noticed the cyclops is slightly misaligned... but i think i can have that fixed, but i still love it. If u wanna get this watch fly to asia and but it cause i got mine brand new for $400 USD. I noticed its twice the price in the states.
Got one on order. I’ve always liked the turtles, but this will be my first. I hope it’s as great in the metal as it looks in the photos.
At this price, the movement should have been upgraded to 6R35 with 70-hour power reserve like the new, upgraded Sumo. At least this upgrade of movement will be comparable to the new Sumo in terms of price and specifications and also justifies the huge price difference between this King Turtle and the standard Turtle. So what this Turtle uses ceramic bezel? Does it cost Seiko a tonne of money? It's negligible with economy of scale.
I don't think they want this new turtle to over shadow the new sumo. The problem is that Seiko is releasing too many models these days. It's the same story with the skx. If they upgraded it the right way, it would outsell the mini turtle. They should have never released the mini turtle.
Ordered one! How long did shipping from Japan take?
And you still get a pressed clasp! Also, magnification on a turtle? If you cant read the turtle day/date without magnification then they might as well have put it in braille.
Picked up the King Turtle. Worth the upgrade and premium over the regular version, which is already great. Very VERY happy with it!
That is 3x+ more than I spent on PADI...admittedly I am planning to get a sapphire crystal and bezel insert. I am sure they will come down in price and be more comparable in price. I love the kanji date as well. This new Turtle is really cool. Thank you for a great review Bruce :)
the double cyclops is a bit much but I love Seiko! I think because the amount of character.
Bruce, great video as always. I love this new design of the turtle - I actually think it's an upgrade visually and like the cyclops. But that price IS excessive. For a stamped clasp and a 4r movement, that's unacceptable. You asked towards the end about what you could get for $800 - the Triton is a better watch for 300-350 Grey market. If seiko put in a 6r movement or had a great bracelet, I could tolerate the price. As it is, not for me. I too love Seikos, and recently snagged a Srpb67j1 at a great deal, so I don't want to come across as hater, but the price rises lately are infuriating.
You can pick these up for $450-$500 on gray market now. Great deal
Bruce you never loose your enthusiasm for Seiko, if the dial was made from dog poop it would still be fantastic
Lol oh come on I would draw the line at dog poop
Just got a Save The Ocean ( SRPE39K1 ) the other day - my first watch of the more expensive kind (in my world that is). And I really like it :P It's not at subtile as the grenade dial version but man is it nice to wear and look at. I for one doesn't care at all about the clasp. Someone below mentioned that milled claps are bulkier and more unconfortable. Who likes that? Except for the bragging rights that is. The stamped clasps makes wonderful clicky noises when snapped together :p
And that dial... Nomnom :P
I don't know who requested the widescreen cyclops. It wasn't me... And the pricing is wishful thinking.
When you start losing your vision in your late 40's, the cyclops rocks! Never thought I'd say that............$469-500 online.
Awesome watch! But yet another Seiko priced above 500 bucks, wich I can´t afford :-( WHY Seiko? It sucks being poor (in terms of wristwatch budget).
They are pretty crazy asking for that kind of money. Spend a little bit more and get a Sinn, Oris, Tag. Or spend a lot less and just get a regular Turtle which is 90% of the watch that this is.
TheStig ZeroZeroZero Never pay full retail for any Japanese watch.
@@HelloHello-vi2to True. I try to never pay full retail for any watch if I can help it.
My Seikos get much more wrist time vs my oris/tags and tags are mediocre at best in quality and horrible at their rrp. My Balls, Fortis, B&M, ML, Tudors crap on Tags at same rrp from case, crystal, finishing. Heuer is a different story however.
Hey Bruce, do you think the King Turtle will fit my 6 inch wrist? The mini Turtle’s hardlex crystal is turning me off in getting one.
BTW those markers aren't really applied, they are part of the dial mold. The dial is made of that silvery metal, stamped such that the indices are the highest "peaks". Then the dial is coated black, then a flat grinder is used to brush off the tops of the indices, resulting in a uniformly vertical brushing. Lastly, printing is applied, and lume is squished into the appropriate depressions.
Hi Bruce did you keep the watch? I’m considering getting one as a daily and I think with the ceramics and sapphire would be a great option. What do u think
i dont know if it was mentioned here but if you look at 1:45 at the number 5 on the datewheel it looks totally uneven, like handpainted? a machine print cant be that uneven. interesting is also how they do the printing on the dial, cause the dial is actually textured exactly to the printed letters. just my few cents, nice review as always bruce 👍
People complained about SRPD01K dawn grey edition being too expensive for a turtle. Now you get objectively 100$ worth of upgrades (if modding your own), but the watch costs 200$+ (50%) more. I personally think it does not compute.
John Destroyer it doesn’t compute. Unless you just have to have a Seiko there are better options.
At the new price point, and it is a new price point not supported by the updates, the watch is competing against a different set of watches.
You buy Seiko because you love the product. Not because they offer the best bang for buck because they don't
@@BruceWilliams The same was the case with the last turtle editions, which I have two of. There were better bangforbuck options, but I love Seiko since my father's watch was the same brand.
Now they are even more expensive and I honestly cannot find an excuse to buy another one, although I like the new editions. I am well aware I can afford the new one too, but for that price point I would rather consider other watch types and manufacturers.
Love this watch, especially with the Kanji date. Thanks for your videos. From UK.
This watch is a big hit for me man!!! Dont give too crap about the bracelet, so long it looks decent on my wrist! Its the watch that counts! I don't look at the crown when the watch is on my wrist! This doesn't make the watch look cheap is any way for me! Just love the ceramic and the candy bar! £530, can't go wrong!
Love the seconds hand movement on d Grand Seiko 👌
That clasp is a disapointment for $800
King Turtle is going for ~$400 these days. As usual you neckbeards overreact to MSRP prices at launch.
What is functionally wrong with a stamped clasp? All you internet people usually say is, "iT fEeLs cHeAp".
What does cheap actually *mean*? I have Seikos with stamped clasps and they are bulkier and less comfortable. The forged clasp, being thicker, sticks out further from the clasp and digs into the wrist.
Realize to argue about value things that are functional are more important than things that are arbitrary.
@@a_single_white_female I agree. Stamped clasp is by far more comfortable vs. Standard off the shelf milled clasp ..only clasp that is better is those milled, smoothed and contoured which usually comes on $10k+ watches. I actually like my jingly jujbilee on my vintage Rolex over my newer models.
@@a_single_white_female I don't mind stamped clasp either but in my experience the comfortable milled clasp can easily be done. The milled clasp on my Steinhart 39mm is the most comfortable and the quality is also amazing. It's not bulky at all like the clasp on my MM300.
Very nice looking watch from afar because of the price. No way in hell i'd pay that much for those upgrades. Seiko seems to be going in the wrong direction :/ Thanks for the videos though bud. Appreciate the content but dissapointed in seiko
Don't think we will see the days of 250 dollar pro seikos again
No milled clasp for $800? Citizen night hawk a $200 watch has a milled clasp.
Wait a few months friend, these watches will go for a huge discount and be amazing value lol
Switch to Islander. Same specs (sapphire, lumed ceramic bezel), same turtle case, costs 300 to 350.
King Turtle is going for ~$400 these days. As usual you neckbeards overreact to MSRP pries at launch.
The thing that made me stop buying Seikos is the bracelets / clasps. They need to step up their game on that part. I'm a huge fan of Seiko, I have an SKX and Tuna and a few other models that I won't ever sell. But, I find it hard to pull the trigger on Seiko anymore now that I've gotten into Oris. The bracelet quality on the Aquis is just incredible and makes it hard to go back to the feel of the Seikos.
Bruce is really a Seiko fan, and I don’t blame him for that.
not sure about the ceramic bezel, it looks cheap compared to the textured bezels of the great white etc
I like both
I enjoy the waffle dial, the updated bezel and the sapphire with the cyclops, just a bit hard to swallow such a price increase
I definitely do not recommend paying full retail for this. If you are in the USA, check for sales from Macy's. I got mine for $425 earlier this month and probably wouldn't pay any more than that.
Thank you! Great work! Your video and recommendations were helpful with me deciding on a future purchase. I appreciate what you did.
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I think this is a solid option at $500 USD. At $800 I'm buying a Christopher ward C60 mkiii.
$469 online
Just got mine for 450
The JDM ones are the ones with premium pricing
@@Patomelb what's the difference?
@@chrisjct2095 nothing really bro just a Japanese watch that’s made in Japan and a little made in Japan on the dial
what is the blue dial Seiko that you showed at 2:08? its a stunner. great video and i like this watch as well
nice video! which model of seiko is shown at 2:08?
That intro Bruce
They completely loosing touch with reality with prices
Love it!
Bruce Williams, brand new for $315. Is it worth it then?
Love this release. Really cool looking turtle. A nice pickup Bruce. Cheers.
Hi Bruce. Love your channel. Curious to know what do you think of the new Seiko Monster Save the Ocean SBDY045? I just got one. Will be great if you can do a review. Cant find any review on YT.
Hey Bruce, what’s the difference between the watched shown in the vid vs SRPE03 ? They seem to be the same watch but 300 dollar price difference ?
I like my green King Turtle. It is beautiful. My only disappointment is that it keeps time at -20 sec/day . I know it is w/i Seiko margins for their 4R36 movements.
Today I received the SBDY047 as an early Valentines' gift. The list price was 65,000 JPY. I have always wanted a watch with kanji day and I'm very happy with this one.
Thanks for getting one of these in so quickly Bruce, looks like one of my purchases in 2020 for sure!
Nice watch. I like it. Something about Japan that I just love. Great job as always Bruce! Love your channel!
Bruce it’s good to see that you are transparent that this is a paid promotion . Of course this then totally negates impartiality, In essence it’s an advertisement. For this to be shipped to the uk with taxes and import duty it would be nudging 1200 US dollars this is ridiculous. I can buy a a turtle for 350 including tax so why would I pay 750 bucks for a piece of sapphire and ceramic which in 2020 can be found on 100 buck . It’s time everyone started to speak out about how Seiko are taking people for fools .
Isn't the new Sumo about 800$ too? Sapphire etc.
I like the Turtle shape though but it would be tough to pay this much for the upgrades when the standard Turtle is 409$ or less
You know I’ve been agonising over getting a discontinued 775 Which I love or this. The 775 can be found for £330 here in the UK on eBay. I’ve just seen this for £430. It really makes sense getting this doesn’t it. It really is the next level up. The 775 feels a little close to the SKX 007 and 009 I already have. This feels like something else entirely. An investment.
Hello.what do you think of this watch on are 8.5 inch wrist?will it be too big?
What is that slight "pointed" triangle above day 25? @1:38?
Myownopinion I noticed that too. I think the date wheel is off.
It's funny to me; after having bought four Seiko watches at an average of $1,000 each... this feels like a bargain to me now. :P
I think this would look nice with a Beads of Rice bracelet.
Serov which Seikos you have?
@@tomsterr1904 Hello! I have a SPB083, SPB107, SBDC055, SBDC085 and the SBDC047...which I forgot about as I don't wear it much any more. 😅
I know people are crappin all over this new release, but aside from the tuna, the turtle is my favorite Seiko.... and good lord does the green dial version look awesome!! ALMOST makes me wanna sell my SRP775 and get that one! Great video Bruce! I love the production quality of your content! Stay blessed my friend.
Thank you Stephen!
Great review, top quality content. Really digging this watch 👍
Love this upgrade. Are the case and bracelet the same as the standard turtles?
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Just got mine a few days ago, international version. Your review is spot on. Didn’t pay premium, but love this watch.
I did replace the strap to an Uncle Seiko GL803 rubber strap since I think that makes it a true Turtle to me.
This is simply a Seiko Submariner to me .
Awesome review
Bruce can I wear this with a super jubilee strap ?
Is the Turtle the biggest diver that Seiko sells?
Sapphire crystal, £35, ceramic insert £10 for my SKX007, 40 minutes playing around.......fair enough, no pressure test, but I’m happy. This looks good for a turtle, but I’ve never been a fan of the cushion case. Good video.
Sub 500 I think this is a good value. Prices are going up, but a lot of the more popular microbrands are also raising prices.
Good comment, a lot are
Why is it called turtle ? is it slow and loses time or something?
I'm currently in Tokyo. Where do I find this. And what's with Seiko and cyclops for their new watches, like the 2020 Alpinist and now this one.
Beautiful piece for sure! Quick question: where do you go for watch news? Like when companies are going to put out new watches? Thank you!
How much the weight?
Although I’m sure the JDM version maybe a little nicer for 800$ you could buy 2 global release king turtles for that price I’ll take my chances with Mis-alignment for half the price just picked up the srpe03 for around $380 at that price the watch is truly a bargain not worth double for made in Japan IMO
What is the difference between this model and the SRPE03 model? The SRPE goes for about $500 and it seems to have the same features as the one in the video.
Seiko is Omega and Rolex rolled up in one. Make a ton of models, and raise the price with no to little change, to have the Seiko name.
Maybe I’m wrong, but shouldn’t the fact that it’s made by one company lower the cost overall ? Also, the price would be justified if it had a better movement.
Nice review. Such a cool watch, with useful upgrades, but... A cyclops? Really? Also, I still can't forgive the Prospex P/S 'X' logo. Would look so much classier without the X-Factor/90's snowboard branding. Price wise, seems reasonable, just. Only starting to come up against Certina...
The textured dial looks great, the sapphire is OK but a bit excessive, however the cyclops is the deal-breaker for me.
May grab me a non kanji model they can already be had for around the 450 dollar mark from asia and at this price its about similar or lower than some of the LE turtles previously released but with upgrades
What company is the outside edge stripe band from in the later part of the video, please?
Great review as always, Bruce. I really like it. I'm not averse to Seiko trying to move themselves up market either, good for them, so long as the products truly reflect it. Love that bezel, I hate the soft cheap look of the knurling on regular turtles and skx's. By sharpening that this watch already looks higher quality. Sapphire is a great upgrade. The Cyclops is my only reservation, so it is interesting that you appreciate it with watch in the metal. This watch is begging to be put on an Uncle Seiko rubber strap with that dial. Really like this one.
Hows the accuracy treating you?.
In the 1980's grandparents used to say that the Japanese just copied European designs. 40 yrs later Seiko puts a Royal Oak style facia and a Rolex-esk date magnifier on the cristal of its iconic Turtle... Looks good but a missed opportunity IMO.
Very valid points.
Nice video. Seiko seems to be positioning themselves a step or two about microbrands on a features/quality basis. The case itself seemed a bit more polished, a bit more upscale, as well, no?
My long islander turtle micro turtle blows this away nh36 movement,dbl domed sapphire crystal, ceramic bezel,drilled lugs,sandblasted case all for $299.00 this new seiko turtle doesn’t come close!
How does it compare to the new Sumo minus ceramic and cyclops? I see your older Sumo and I love my newer version. Pricing is similar so curious if you spot any functional difference.
Main difference is the nicer movement and case finishing is superior on the new sumo
Bruce Williams thanks. I do like the unguarded bezel on the turtle.
What do you guys think the USA market value is now for pre-owned SBDY049 pre-owned with light wear and misaligned bezel?
I sometimes think we hobby watch collectors are spoiled, the way we complain about new releases or updated versions having too high a price. I think a $300 differential is useful for showing how much value Seiko sees sapphire and ceramic bezels.
Great watch . Overpriced... I have Seiko 5 watches and I’m happy with the value ... but the inflated prices in their divers keeps me away. Maybe I’m just poor folk but I feel this watch should have been in the 500 dollar mark... I just bought a Zelos and I can’t help but feel that Seiko is just money hungry when I compare the features for the money you spend ... again I love this watch and I wish I had one ... but I can’t pay that it feels like Robbery
Nice work, Bruce! LIW Islander Turtle clones are $299 with nylon strap. No cyclops, luminous ceramic bezel. Dial is not as nice. Add $100 for a bracelet. The dial alone might be worth the extra $400, for the watch enthusiast.
I can't get on board with them. Too much of a clone. I'm surprised Seiko hasn't pulled thier distributorship with Marc
Japan-onlinestore prices are too high,really high.Anyway,king turtle is amazing and I just ordered the green one 👌
You pay for the best
That’s true. I rather pay another 100 than get some bezel that is halfway misaligned!
Everything you described as a new feature could have $25 Quartz movement, so what makes this movement worth paying for as the facade is just that...surely I can't be the only person interested in what makes the watch tick.