DeWALT DCS520 Cordless 54v Plunge Saw - Episode 6
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- DeWalt fanboys, this one's for you. The cordless DCS520 plunge saw is one of our most asked for reviews. Episode 6 sees Roger give the DeWalt DCS 520 the onceover.
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More info from DeWalt on the XR FLEXVOLT DCS520
The XR FLEXVOLT DCS520 is the first Plunge Saw to feature a Brushless 54V Motor, making it one of the most powerful cordless plunge saws available. The DCS520 is extremely accurate making it ideal for general carpentry and woodworking, with particular suitability towards cabinet making, kitchen fitting or hard wood floor installation. The DCS520 plunge saw is quick and easy to adjust and features accurate bevel to 47 degrees, twin edge track system, a comfortable ergonomic rubber grip for superior control and the parallel link plunge mechanism. The DCS520 plunge saw also benefits from Airlock dust extraction port and is compatible with a range of DEWALT dust extractors.
FEATURES
• Parallel plunge allows the user to maintain a smooth and constant hand position while cutting
• 48 tooth blade gives a fine and accurate finish with very little breakout in laminates
• Rail adjustment allows the saw to be adjusted accurately to the DeWalt guide rail system (sold separately)
• The anti-kickback function stops the saw from moving backwards along the rail and helps stop the saw from climbing out of the work when making plunge cuts
• Variable speed allows the correct speed to be set for different types of materials
• Full wave electronics maintains a constant speed under heavy load
• The enclosed guard gives a 90% dust extraction capability
• 55mm depth of cut allows the trimming and sizing of most common door sizes
SPECIFICATION
Voltage: 54v FlexVolt
No Load Speed: 1750 - 5000 rpm
Blade Diameter: 165 mm
Blade Bore: 20 mm
Bevel Capacity: 47°
Max. Depth of Cut at 90º: 59 mm
Max. Depth of Cut at 90º[with guide rails]: 55 mm
Max. Depth of Cut at 45º: 44 mm
Max. Depth of Cut at 45º[with guide rails]: 40 mm
Best price for the DCS520 cordless kit is £615 including VAT.
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You've got this far, we're impressed. Roger loves this DeWalt plunge cut track saw and he really wants to keep it.
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Fit the festool clear rubbers on the track and perfect. The black rubber is a little soft.
Had mine ages now and still on the same blade cuts real nice still. Great saw.
Great Video! In case you don't know, lithium Ion batteries are best stored with betwen 40 and 70% of its charge, that way the battery won't get damage if stored for to long. And since new batteries could be stored in store shelves for months they package them with low charge.
Already got it using it and loving it. And my 102 inch track just came in excited to use it on the deck I'm currently working on
This runtime is especially nice because DeWALT now has a 12ah battery, the one in the video is 6ah so it's pretty nice.
You can't remove tstak individually, you can do that with toughsystem boxes only.
And lithium-ion batteries do not need oxygen to burn, once they get going they are difficult to put out.
I own this plunge saw I also own a festool 240v plunge saw. with this dewalt plunge saw I find it has the equivalent power of the festool and the plunge motion has grown on me, on that note the plunge motion on this saw actually reduces the risk of kickback rather than the traditional pivot motion like on the festool. The blade is always moving forward during the plunge rather than swinging back in on itself and sometimes causing the saw to bite. I agree the dust extraction isn't the best and its lacking a splinter guard that would help with that problem.
No you can't be a festool reviewer you were too honest
Love the way the dewalt plunges it feels more natural
Any cordless tool will be supplied with about a 60% charge on the batteries. This is because the Li-Ion battery will deteriorate if stored fully charged as well as a 'flat' battery will. If you don't intend to use your cordless tool for a few weeks always charge the battery to around 60%. They will live much longer if you do.
Nice review. One comment on fires with batteries.
If lithium ion or lithium ion polymer (li-po) batteries fail and catch fire it’s a chemical reaction that does not require oxygen initially.
The only safe way to store these types of battery is in a flame proof container.
Suitable bags can be bought specifically for battery storage or a metal container like an old ammo box is suitable.
You got there before me :-) You need a Class D fire Extinguisher to put them out. Normal Fire Extinguishers won't put them out.
Do you know if this the same for all of the large battaries on the market?
DeWalt, milwaukee, Hitachi/hikoki/Metabo?
@@jamesbailand4311 If they use the same technology then yes and it's not just large batteries all Lithium or LiPo batteries have the same problem. The world has not really grasped the danger with LiPo batteries. I'm just waiting for reports of bin lorries catching fire because some idiot has thrown their old drill battery in the bin and the bin lorry has crushed it. The fire the batteries generate is very intense and there is a very good chance that one battery igniting will cause the rest of the stack to ignite and this will burn until all of the battery is consumed.
@@graemescott990 oh right. All his safty talk put me off the idea of it, too!
Idiots constantly put all types of batteries in the regular bin collection, so yes I'd say you're right that'll be a matter of time.
I was going to say the same thing, I hope they edit this video and add some captions to correct that information. I fly RC Aircraft, and I've had a few battery packs kick off while in a airtight metal can.
Hi roger
Love your channel, I own this saw and probably 90% of dewalt tools. But some of your info is wrong I use mine on dewalt and festool rails.also tstak and tough system are two separate types of tool storage.
Keep up the great vids.🛠🛠
Just checking if im reading this correctly, you can run dewalt on festool tracks , i like alot of the attachments for festool that dewalt dosen't have thks
@@rjjrrailsgscalesolenske5231 yes you can run this saw on Festool tracks, I recently got a Festool track to test it and it works fine.
DeWalt saw has two grooves one for DeWalt tracks other for Makita/Festool
Only downside is that anti kickback feature is on DeWalt track groove.
Hope that helps
The major reason for the parallel plunge feature is to allow the riving knife to work. If it swung down like other makes the riving knife would never be the correct depth.
You can also use it on a Festool track
Roger is a Master Carpenter... for sure respect from Poland.
Sławomir Jarzyna
He’s a plumber, jestes genialny
Nice overview Roger. The depth stop looks really delicate to me. Will just say the second slot on the base closest to the edge makes the DeWalt saw compatible with Festool/Makita/Triton rails.
Thank you. A few people have picked up on my mistake. Glad to have you guys out there. We are thinking about putting a private pre-release out to regular viewers like you so we can cover some of these things and maybe pick up on some of the things we miss.
@@SkillBuilder Love that you take comments constructively. Good on you Roger and co. The guide rail thing doesn't spoil the review and most folk will stick with the Dewalt rails that come with it anyway I reckon. But us tool nuts gotta tool nut ;) I'd be up for pre-release feedback previews. Good idea.
Batteries are like Pringles once they pop they can't stop being exothermic, so sealing them in an air tight seal won't help they contain the full fire triangle theyll go off in a vacuum so just have to try and manage the heat being released keep them separate enough so can't set off eachother like dynamite, but get decent equipment follow manufacturer recommendations and your golden.
I like the parallel plunge mechanism, I have the corded version. I wonder if someone could make a plunge saw that plunges parallel but straight down, like the routers, on some linear bearings, that might be even more useful.
That'll make it hard to push down standing from behind.
As has been mentioned, the saw has 2 grooves in the base, so can be used on festool, makita etc rails (although I don't think the anti-kickback works on those rails). However a festool saw cannot be used on the dewalt rail.
I don’t mean to pick holes Rog, but it does not look like it plunged straight down, it goes down at an angle!
Deri Darkin j7
???
That’s exactly what I saw. You can tell by his body language that he also saw that. Lol.
The storage system you are referring to is the tough system, the box you have there is the tstak. Tough system can be removed individually, whereas tstak has to be unstacked. 👍🏼
Thanks, Redstihl I thought it was all the same stuff.
No dewalt have the tough boxes who has the air valve at the top. And the rubber seal around the lid. What put me off the dewalt was people said the saw wasn't comfortable. And had a problem with the hand and battery space wasn't good
Robin on holiday 😁 are you both doing the showdown ? Interesting to get both your perspectives.
He was busy working on site . He will be back.
... today is an updated on this circular saw... has radio control one the cordless vacuum , which means you don't have to pus the remote control button one your cordless vacuum .
Hey folks, I'm an amateur home woodworker but have accumulated some solid skills and achieved some decent projects over the years with lower grade tools (floor to ceiling book shelves, decks, stairs etc.). Now I want to progress to an accurate track saw and MFT (more versatile than a saw table), decent router etc. to try build higher finish AV cabinet, couple of coffee tables,couple dining tables etc. I actually already have two 54V batteries for a DeWalt chainsaw I use for camping and firewood, so thought I could leverage them on this track saw. In your opinions, is this saw good enough, accurate enough for my intended purposes? Even not needing batteries it's still pretty expensive, the kit with two tracks and two clamps is the go, but we're talking AU$1,100. Are there any other suggested options, including 240V? Thanks, Mike
Awesome review! Thank you for your highly regarded input.
the saw can be used with Festool tracks (and possibly with Makita tracks too) but then the anti-kickback feature is disabled. Not sure if other saws can work with the DeWalt track though.
These flex volt saws tend to have safety feature inbuilt for kickback. If this is the same as the skillsaw then it should just cut out if something binds.
I've had flexivolt batteries for years now. Never had one catch on fire
I’m not a fan of dewalt 18v kit. But this flex volt saw is the full package as far as I’m concerned.
I really would consider buying this and their 54v cut off saw. And sticking with my makita 18v kit.
I’m looking at this video and thinking the exact same, i want the extra power for this and the cut off
Great review, and excellent production quality. Thanks for the upload, just subscribed!
I think the two strips on the blade cover is meant for cutting a door in place running on the bottom like. That way no need to remove the door from the frame, I could be wrong but maybe not!!
I think that makes sense.
Hi, rite at the end of the video you use the saw with hose connected, and I notice there is a yellow bit on your hose where it connects to the saw...
Please can you tell me where I can get one of these? Thanks.
Would like to know as well...
The yellow bit is part of the extractor attachment
Hello Chief.
Any update about the ripping guide for this circular saw ?
Seems like is a relative of Festool ripping guide but I don't have any feedback from Dewalt. Not US , Not UK , and not even EU Dewalt know something about.
Another thing , you didn't say something about the double groove from the table. My Dewalt DCS576 has 2 because of the 45° cut , but this one ?
As I understand it, the second groove is so that you can use this saw on the festool type tracks as well.
... I don't have another track except for Dewalt and that one I have it for the DCS576. I just bought the DCS520 type 2 with radio control to the Flexvolt Vacuum but because of the situation at this moment I my have to return it so I can't show you how is working.
Interesting was if DEWALT can say something about the rip guide for the DCS520 because they put the slot for that, like the Mafell one, or Festool.
Probably I have to make 1 like I did with rafter hook I put on circular saw and on the reciprocating saw.
How I know Dewalt will take sentures in till they are doing something for UK market.
The dewalt track saw has 2 sections in the base plate allowing use on other tracks
Yep- I use it with a Makita track on an MFT. You have to mill off a small flange though. Or pay more and use Festool directly. If you can bear to give them your money...
@@Tensquaremetreworkshop I've just ordered the DeWalt guide rail kit consisting of 2 * 1.5 mtr rails, 2 * clamps and the give rail bag and it cost me £177.00 from ffx, the festool kit is only £180.00 and consists of the same so they're not to bad tbh
@@garethheathcote4988 just checked Amazon, and that lot from Festool would cost > £325. Where have you found it for £180?
They don't charge batteries fully. Because at full charge they're unstable if they are stored at full charge before bought they can degrade and lose capacity. The best charge for storage is around 40 percent. Which is what most batteries ship with
What do you do whit the tools after you review them because you have a lot of track saws
Is the corded saw as good. I lie these reviews great idea. I'd like to see a jigsaw face off and d-grip vs bodygrip jigsaws.
My GOD, it is losing so much dust even with a vac attached. I was interested in this saw but it really is not for dust sensitive environments like customer homes.
You have no idea how much dust out from wood materials. also he didn't wear the safety glasses on. That would be better if he could compare with other tools too about dust extraction.
@@KiwiAndRyuthe real question is : what's the point of using a cordless machine and plug a vac on it ?
Stakker - You are not first!
Skill Builder
Don't think so ! Stakker always 1st. The D.P.R.K always 1st ! 😊
@@stakkerhmnd I can confirm skill builder was first by 1 minute, you failed your country. Now the DPRK will fail.
@@cjhification I can confirm the Glorious Leader of the D.P.R.K was 1st ! We are the champions !
@@stakkerhmnd your a strange wee man...
Roger you forgot to show how to change the blade, on all the other reviews it was shown. Since I own the corded version I assume it is the same but to others who don't know they might factor the ease of the blade change when deciding which track saw they buy.
Just in case anyone is interested in battery life on a used blade I cut a roof in using the flexvolt circular saw when we had the beast from the east and I was going through 2 batteries and about half way through the third, this was on the 2ah/6ah battery. The timber was quite damp as well, but overall I was impressed with the power but feel that the larger battery would be a better option
Is it very hard to change the blade then? I know on the Mafell and Festool it really easy, as is the Bosch.
@@cjhification it's pretty straight forward but more similar to the way festool does it than mafel, I only mentioned it as the blade change was shown in the other videos
Salut Skill Builder, trop top la scie plongeante Dewalt de la gamme FlexVolt,merci pour la vidéo, à plus JEAN.
Judging from the video the fact that it has a parallel plunge does not mean that the blade moves up and down vertically as is implied, rather it moves forward as it is plunged
It is funny how many things I have noticed since seeing the video footage. It does move forward and down at the same time. Another correction for the final showdown.
11:25 I can see two grooves cast in the base plate. Thought you can use the Dewalt also on Festool style tracks??
Thanks Spunkt,, I now believe that to be the case but never knew and I didn't see it written anywhere. We will update in the Showdown.
Cheers, mate!
@R-77 Meanwhile i did some research regarding the second groove. In some reviews on Amazon customers mentioned it would fit on the festool style tracks. Also i found a track saw comparison in the german woodworking magazine "Holzwerken", which gave an overview which track would fit to which track saw and vice versa. Apparently it's just designed to fit on the festool tracks.
Dewalt does not even describe it in its manual....
Can you do some DEWALT Flexvolt tool like the table saw and the mites saw ok from Harrison
Im a dewalt fan, i have loads of it, old and new, literally never had a problem, and the few batteries that did let me down were swapped by dewalt straight away, no quibbles. Best tools in my opinion. Cant say the same for milwaukee who wouldnt refund me on a poorly performing breaker. Milwaukee are greedy feckers who dont care about customers
I bought a Dewalt cordless table saw at Home Depot and the battery life was terrible. I saw that the date code on the battery was three years old. I called Dewalt and they said it was out of warranty even though I just bought it the day before and had the receipt. They told me to return the entire table saw to Home Depot even though I would have to wait weeks for a replacement (no other stores had that saw in stock). They finally helped me but only after I made a real fuss and showed them in my Dewalt.com account that I had tons of their tools. Not right to have the warranty based on date code instead of date you buy. Some dealers have this stuff on their shelves for years. Especially the more expensive and less popular tools.
I dont think the is a good enough cordless vac at moment but it must be safer not having the lead as well getting in the way using cordless tools . I`m a dewalt fan but I have watched the dewalt take on the festool before. Festool came out winning so I`m still wondering if it was a bit to do with the batteries and blade on the festool that it didn`t score very high with you. Must admit count wait to your final outcome . PS I did see someone corrected you about the dewalt cases . I dont know why dewalt do this but they put all there flexvolt tools in the t-stak I think which is a shame cause I was getting a tough system collection , there better case, but now have some t-stak as well
Great review! Thanks
Hi Rodger are you going to be reviewing the corded DeWalt track saw?
We don't have one yet but we will try and borrow one.
No problem thank you
if your connected to a vac is cordless much of an advantage ?
Only if it is a cordless backpack vac
I think you were a bit.. ignorant about the track being two sided. Ambidextrous? Why would that be a thing when you can just flip the track around if you need to go the other direction. And the cut line does not change when doing bevel cut, so there is no advantage there either. In my mind (I have the corded version that has the same tracks) the advantage is either that if the rubber rip guard gets too worn you still have the other side to use fresh, or, if you use two blades with a different kerf (thickness) you can have one side for each to still have perfect rip protection.
Sorry I'm very late to answer I recently bout this saw and it's arriving pretty soon so I hope to find the answer out.. why is this is it Purley for quick plonk the track down and cut or is it more technical I guess I'll find out soon
Hey, does the Dewalt leave a glue line rip?
Just my personal observation but you seem to be a lot more critical on tools when reviewing together with Robin.
You are right because Robin tends to be too kind about the shortcomings so I try and balance it up a bit. However, I really thought this saw was impressive.
@@SkillBuilder I love it!
I spoke to a dewalt rep in Australia about the voltage differance's
He said EVERYTHING is 18 Volt or 54 Volt event the USA stuff.
The difference is All Dwalt stuff starts off at the higher voltage anywhere in the world, but after a second or two it will drop to the normal 18 or 54 volts.
In the USA by law they can say the Dewalt stuff is the starting voltage even though the products don't run at that voltage.In other places in the world the above is illegal marketing wise and thus has the real running voltage.
You are right but don't shout about it to the americans as they get really annoyed and they can't work the maths on 18 but 20 is easy for them. That is why its called 20v Max in the states. I have plenty of tools from the states that I use the 18v batteries in because they are all identical the world over. If you actually look at the 18650 cells in the batteries, their nominal voltage is around 3.6v but they can peak at 4v when they come off the charger. So the normal world uses the nominal voltage as that is the correct value for the cell but the americans use the peak voltage cos they are obviously bigger and better than the rest :)
hold you tongue bro lol I'm from the great USA and I own way too many dewalt tools. I understand that they are really 18v with a peak of 20v and it has caused me many arguments and grief lol... I try to explain and people are blinded by the 20v max logo.
it's just marketing bs
and if your right about laws preventing the marketing then they would be marketed that way everywhere. if you think that being america means you can't add they you sir are dumb as fuck.
Ram-n_dodge being American most definitely means you can’t add. I know, I’m American, we’re dumb as hell! 🍻 cheers 🍻
Great video Roger...umm, only just watch this one. When you were talking about no Anti tip, doesn't that anti-kick stop it falling over a bit? Also, when you have a moment let us know where your surname came from? Just curious really! Keep up the good work.
Can someone confirm whether it is true that cutting mitres will result in the splinter guard getting cut at an angle? IF so, this is useless if you want to cut at various angles. Even if you want to cut at 45 degrees and one other angle, if it cuts the rubber, it will cause problems with tear out and accuracy.
Tis true but that's why the DeWalt track has two cutting sides one for angles and the other for straight
Replace the splinter guard every time you cut a different angle 🤔
No, the cut line does not change when beveling! Of course not. That would be very stupid design, eh?! In other words, the bevel system is designed so that the apparent hinge axis is exactly at the line where the blade cuts the surface of the material (or the bottom of the rip guard edge when trimmed).
@@pev_ it is designed so but does not work. The rail's design is very bad, so the saw can move 1mm left and 1mm right, cutting the splinter guard, or leaving about 1mm of wood uncut
@@wizard-of-other-oz Well I have the corded version of this saw which looks almost identical, and it works very well and is as accurate as can be. The rail is very good, and the saw certainly does not "move 1mm left or right"! Granted I have not needed to do much bevel cuts, but the few I have done have worked exactly as I described, no cutting of the rip guard.
Not at all sure that the TStak box would smother a lithium battery fire.
A plastic box stop lithium from burning? No chance.
hi roger any chance you could reveiw a new product for underfloor heating products called warmboard many thanks and great vids
Sure thing. Just contact me through the website and we will talk. www.skill-builder.uk
I love this guy brilliant as usual 10 /10
When’s the cordless makita on?
🇺🇸 In America it’s 60V & 20V because we like everything bigger, better and faster. 🇺🇸 We made tools great again and we’re building a big, beautiful wall to keep them here! 🇺🇸
Karl Ruehs The 54v battery can read up to 60v (max) on a voltmeter when fully charged and not under load. In reality it is just a 54v battery with some marketing b.s. In New Zealand and many other countries I.e. the UK, Australia etc there are laws which prevent companies making statements with the intention of misleading or which are likely to mislead, it is under the Fair Trading Act. It’s just so flies like you get drawn to the light 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Leigh Stephens That’s true, and in addition, may I say; Murica’s #1!!!!!!!
Karl Ruehs 🤓
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Cant you use normal Dewalt batteries? Do they have to be 54v??
Yes you have to use a 54v flexvolt battery on a flexvolt tool as they need the power that one provided but you can use the flexvolt batteries in your 18v DeWalt tools.
Just to flag up to anyone interested, Dewalt are bring out a new FlexVolt dust extractor with a remote start-up like Festool’s. Details here: toolguyd.com/dewalt-flexvolt-cordless-dust-extractor-vacuum/
Just FYI if those lithium batteries do short and burn. They don't need oxygen from the air to burn. This is why you cannot extinguish a lithium. However, you pretty much have purposely cut one open or throw one in the fire to cause one of these to burn.
Thanks for that information
You can use that saw on festal rails
The battery is 18V nominal, which is how you measure battery voltage since forever. Americans write 20V Max which is marketing bs. They are 18V batteries.
It's not marketing bs, if you take a voltage meter it will read 20.6 v and under load It's between 16 and 17 volts
In the Uk/EU we take the minimum voltage, in the USA they take the higher voltage the battery will achieve after it comes off the charger, and sounds better in the marketing wank but they are the same product, just described differently.
Very similar to salt Vs sodium, have heard Americans on RUclips say they have less salt in their food, but they don't, it's actually generally higher. If you measure sodium (Na) instead of salt (NaCl) it will seem there is less as salt counts the Clorine as well as the Sodium.
Excatly , DeWALT also comunicate in their webpage the operating voltage is 54v in their 60v max battaries. When i get a freshly charged 12v battery the voltage tester also shows 13.5v.
Just to say, we don't take the minimum voltage, we take the nominal voltage. You are right in everything else thou. The nominal voltage of the cells is 3.6v to 3.7v and about 4v when first of the charger. The cell will work down to around 3.4v but only for a very short time.
@@JasonShowell your correct, I did think about going back to correct it but hay, you've done it now.
@@JasonShowell the amount of time it's between 3.6 and 3.4 is very short, compared to how long it runs around 3.7. won't stay up at 4/4.1 under load, so effectively for real use, the nominal voltage is the minimum it runs at for any length of time.
I take your point Craig. What you are calling minimum though is referred to as nominal and that is what all spec sheets will tell you if you ever need to look a cell up.
also the rail has a groove on the underside for dewalts pistol clamp too clamp the rail too the sawmateriale
Don’t know if to get this or makita
I use my DeWalt a lot more.
I enjoyed this.
Great vid.. though you can use the dewalt on the festool rail..
Awesome video guys :)
Thanks Mike, the next episode will be coming shortly
Noooooooo, I was waiting for the 230v 😭
... buy one from the other side of the canal 😊
Dear your picture is not clear at the starting time.
Damn, Gordon Ramsey is looking a bit rough lately
Song at 11:00 ?
Watched all the plunge saw videos on here, was going to buy cheap but said fuck it! I bought the dewalt..awesome machine
Great to know. You can't go wrong with that DeWalt
@@SkillBuilder thanks for the tool reviews by the way. That had a impact on My purchase 👍
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What about storing those batteries at home.Do I need to cap them all the time
I don't think so, most if not all won't cap then as that gets lost or never used / pulled out of the box
It's required for transportation, due to regulations concerning movement of lithium batteries, weather buy road, rail or air within the EU. Probably in USA and Canada as well but don't know the laws there. 3 18v batteries are fine but 1 54v one would be too high, so the transport cap acts like a 18v tool turning the battery pack in to 3 18v batteries. In reality you still have the same amount of lithium, and your not adding any additional physical space so I would not bother with the transport cap unless you're transporting it. I'm not sure if it would apply to carrying your own in the back of a van, but definitely applies to sending it via courier as I had to do paperwork with TNT in the past, when sending out field kit to area offices.
@@cjhification just curious, I live in the USA and have tools shipped to me all the time and they have no protective cap, I have never even heard of them, they do have a warning label on the box they arrive in, most batteries are sealed in a cardboard box or shrink wrap container and that is it... I now realize these tools are arriving via trucking vs air freight.
@@mdsd77 it's only the DeWalt 54v (called 60v in USA/Canada due to less marketing regulations) that requires the special cap due to them being high voltage and high capacity when running in series, apparently not an issue in 18v (20v) mode as it's 3 batteries in a single case, which is what that cap does.
It works better on the Festool track
they call it 60 volt in the US.
yes the American's describe tools by the peak voltage which is not the operating voltage. Our 18 volt is their 20 volt but it is the same.
Are the US 60v batteries compatible with UK/European tools? I realise they're essentially the same thing but wondered if they're interchangeable.
lithium ion batteries do not need oxygen to burn... That case won't help if they catch fire.
No one seems to have worked out how much longer an 18v tool will run on one of these batteries... ie: a cordless jigsaw
I’ve found a major flaw with this saw.
When you go to cut the strip with a new blade etc, you can’t cut from the very end otherwise the saw wobbles off the track and ruins the cut. The blade moves forward as you plunge which misses the start of the strip
Useless
Which means you need two rails to join together to make sure the strip is cut evenly from the start
What bullshit. Never had that prob with the festoon
HomesliceDrummer I’m talking about cutting the strip you replace when you change a blade!!. Read it again
It's hardly useless but I found that too,
@@jameswilliams5982 I find similar with other brand saws, but here's a thought ... if you can't trim the strip then due to wobble etc, you also wouldn't be cutting timber, so the strip not trimming to the beginning-end doesn't matter.
This sound is terrible, otherwise good review. Thanks
24 miters of and still no safety glasses..
Maurice
I did use the safety glasses on some saws but they steam up a bit and I thought that the enclosed housing was doing a good enough job even when we took the dust extraction away but you are probably right, I should have worn them.
That repetitive of him saying “18 volt or 54 volt or whatever it is” is pretty annoying.
Where are your ears and eye protection mate?
That looks like an extremely gimmicky circular saw...
Then you don't know what you're looking at.
I WILL NOT CALL YOUR PRESENTATION FAKE BECAUSE I AM A NEW FAN TO DEWALT: HOWEVER IT NEEDS TO BE PUT TO THE TEST LIKE A TOYOTA TRUCK. THAT IS, CUT A REAL CERTIFIED HARDWOOD DOOR.
JUSTICE quit shouting
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Oh dear, real let down on this video as Roger knows nothing about the battery technology. Good review of the saw but mis information on the batteries is a bad thing. There are no different pins for 18v versus 54v. The pin out is the same on all batteries and the technology to deliver the right voltage is in the battery.
Hi Jason
Sorry, you feel let down. I am the first to admit that I am not an electronic engineer and my head sometimes has to work hard to understand this stuff. A year ago I asked the people at DeWalt how it was achieved and, as far as I can recall, the man told me.the pins in the 54-volt machine tell the battery to run in one series circuit. rather than three parallel circuits.
I think you are suggesting that a chip in the tool tells a chip in the battery to switch to a series configuration by some internal switch. If that is so I stand corrected but from the user's point of view, they get either an 18-volt battery with 6 Ahr or a 54 volt with 2Ahr but more power.
The tradeoff is runtime for grunt.
As a general point,
I talk to a lot of sales people and a good many technical people and it is surprising how often a question such as
How is this done? or what is this made from? leaves them totally stumped. I would love to hear your explanation beause we still have the Showdown to come and I can dazzle Robin with my explanation.
Hi Roger, Firstly, please don't take my comment too negatively. I don't expect many people to fully understand how the battery works and the rest of your review was spot on. My main worry is mis information or bad information. For the batteries to explode or catch fire, they don't need oxygen and they don't care about what box they are in. People cannot truly rely on a plastic box to keep them safe. Metal is better but still not perfect if these batteries decide to explode. Its a chemical reaction that happens and that is the dangerous part. I am not going to pretend to know all the answers on this but there are certainly smarter people than me that know what is going on here.
With regards to the voltage. The battery only uses 2 pins between battery and tool. All the tools are 'dumb' and just expect power when the battery is connected. The flexvolt batteries have a lot of electronics in them which is a blessing and a curse. It means there is more to go wrong and I have had a flexvolt battery fail but it is also what determines the voltage that is put out. You can see a really good break down of one of the batteries in this video and you can see that there are only 2 pins used to get the power out. Most people expected different pins but that would make battery compatibility harder in the future. The way dewalt has done it is clever as all their tools are wired the same and the battery takes care of the rest.
ruclips.net/video/bB6CuCzbWl8/видео.html
Keep up the good work on the channel as I have been a fan for a long time. All I ask is that you be honest if you don't know / understand something or you go find out rather than give people the wrong information. I am the first to admit I get plenty wrong :)
I met the guys at DeWalt today and spoke to the person who specialises in Flexvolt and he showed me the pin arrangement on the 54volt and how it differs to the 18 volt. I was right in my initial statement. The extra tags on the 54 volt battery will operate on 54 volts machines to redirect the current back along the cells so all three 18 vollt groups are running in series. There are no switches and no micro processors involved in this.
@@SkillBuilder I love that you managed to talk to DeWalt about this. My only issue is that you talked theory of how it's done but if you actually open the battery you will see how it works. Look at the video I linked to. The wires coming from the battery pack are only on 2 pins. Literally no other pins are used. This makes it impossible for it to use different pins to change the voltage. I have opened 2 flexvolt batteries so far and they are both just using 2 pins to supply the tools. Physical beats theoretical in this instance.
Jason
I hadn't watched that video. It is interesting but it seems to me that those two heavy duty wires go into the back of a distribution plate. On that basis I am guessing that it comes out in 54 volt from the cells regardless of the machine and then goes into a sealed distribution board at the back of those terminals.
The centre ones are all that is needed for the 54 volt but if it is drawing 18 volts it must connect to the other terminals. In the video they don't seem to be connected but they must be under all that silicone. They must have a purpose. I am still not sure what is happening but, just for fun, I will ask somebody else at DeWalt. There is a chance they might not want to tell me, in which case, I will have to wait for their competitors to take it apart.
Are you fuck.... kidding me RUclips? Sorry Mate i always loved your videos! but recently they get filled up with youtube telling me to get a subsribtion or fill me up with commercials!Same time , I am in Australia since 6 Years, it has never been a problem with the video quality before. But now it seems to be. It has nothing to do with something wrong here, rest assured.
Dewalt seem to be a bit like Dyson and design things to look like they are functional, not to actually be functional. That screw knob to adjust the depth is just awful, how on earth with any prototype testing did someone think that was a good idea. Also the kickback knob, would be nice if you could easily just flick it on and off but really you would struggle to find anywhere less accessible than where they chose to place it.
I don't like the look of that saw either, the boxey looking blade guard is particularly ugly and lets face it yellow is not a good colour for a power tool!
I'm the first to comment ! You are not ! Ha! Ha!