@@outdose9997 and he implied multiple times that he has difficult time trying to stay focus on reality because he «sees» the whole timeline in front of him. So he doesn’t know exactly which moment is the present.
he had to do something he was going to die regardless, its in the end when he starts to realize everything hes going to lose and cant do nothing about it
Man is commenting on youtube the only thing you do? For fucks sake Go get a life otherwise you will end up like other losers on youtube who do nothing but comment shit
@@bev3140 It's not that hard to be like him tho. The average person views at least a dozen RUclips videos a day, and he probably tries to say anything wherever he goes. He's simply a celebrity now so his comments appear high.
@@jeffpenus9201 why would you regret reading a whole story just by a slightly disappointing ending? It's not even a BAD BAD ending, at least it's not like darling in the franxx lmao
If anyone is wondering, 標 in both Japanese (Hyō) and Chinese (Biáo) means Mark. And that mark is meant to be Eren. Thus, the title is Eren The Coordinator.
The art gives off the vibes of old religious art depictions of scenarios that played out in their stories. It makes the aesthetic feel of AOT being far into the past even more prominent.
What do you mean regardless of the ending? If you are trying to say you didn't like the ending, I feel sad for you as you failed to understand Eren as a character and the main themes of Aot.
@@Nik-md4to The ending was a pile of garbage, you don't need to defend it to like the music lmao. The writing was going downhill for a while but the last 15 chapters were an absolute joke. Characters like Yelena were forgotten, themes of how the Founder works were overwritten and the Colossals straight up vanished instead of going mindless. Or the way 8 scouts with infinite gas and blades beat an army of ancient shifters and an army of colossals with no casualties, in the steam that was supposed to burn them to crisps. What didn't I understand? That Eren was practicing his acting skills alone in front of the mirror, or was it with Falco outside the hospital in Liberio? 10/10 facade lmfao. Get outa here, it was GoT season 8 manga edition. Worse even.
NOOOO!!! I've been playing this for months now, and only because of the recent episode do I realise that the guy in black is eren, and he's looking into memories. Mind blown
Well Eren was the one who said Grisha's words back to himself, which Grisha had told Eren while injecting him. This is the loop Kruger started and Eren was the loop controller, if what I said makes sense
Simply iconic to me, we have Eren Krueger, the Owl, Grisha Jaeger, the Usurper, and finally Eren Jeager, the Destroyer. All three held the power of the Attack Titan and all together in a way. Couldn’t do any better in my opinion.
I know Manga readers knew about the twist but I’m here after the latest episode and I’m floored. But it all makes so much sense now. Also this art is perfect and means so much more after seeing the latest episode!
There are only two choices left: either the people outside the walls are humbled and die, considering themselves "hellish geeks", or they are fighting for their freedom and the right to live on Earth in the same way as all other people. In fact, I like this anime, and in principle this story is one of my favorites, since very important and complex topics are touched upon here. Thanks to this anime, you realize that the world really does not consist of black and white colors, it is gray and incomprehensible. There are no bad, good ones here. When I first started watching, Rainer and Berthold, and indeed all the warriors before and after the future Gaby and Falco, seemed to me bad people who just wanted to destroy innocent Eldians who were not to blame for the events of a thousand years ago, but later I realized that the warriors are not bad. They simply had no choice. It hurts me so much to look at this world in which Eren was born. He just, like every person on the planet, wanted to live freely and happily. But other people decided otherwise. The warriors also wanted to be considered as people, and not as devils. Everyone wanted to be free and happy. But someone or something decided otherwise. It's even possible that Eren didn't want to become a monster, but he had no choice. Sooner or later, the Marlians would have come to Paradise anyway and started destroying everyone.
We the watchers(before read the manga) never even imagined in our wildest dreams that Eren Yeager would be holding that kind of Trump Card...Hajime Iyasama is really a great talented person and i respect him from my bottom of my heart for giving us a Magnificent Legendary series like A.0.T.. BEHOLD!!!!! EREN YEAGER!!!!!!😭😭
How come I never realized that how Eren got his name is from Eren Kruger when Grisha met him and got his attack titan ability, and Kruger told Grisha to start a family in the walls.
I really hope in Season 4 pt 2 they use a soundtrack similar to this one, I feel there might be some instances where a version of this, would feel epic! Great job! I love this rendition
6:13 is when I begin getting an immense series of goosebumps I haven't felt since before what I'll call my "Falling" or as others say when I was "sick". Well over a decade, so many years lost and spent trying to find myself after the old me was as naive as young Eren, catapulted into a world that seemed to be nothing but against you. I died, both figuratively and legitimately some lost time after that understanding and a series of losses that obliterated what ever I had left for comprehensible living, love, the very being I am... Then after years of searching desperately, I realized the meaning to Stargate's quote "If you immediately know the candle light is fire, then the meal was cooked a long time ago." I am and always have been free and right where I'm meant to be. Devil or angel, these titles don't define me and nothing ever will.
S1 : Titans killed my mom I will have my revenge S2 : Wait what.... My comrades killed my mom S3 PT1 : Aight WTF... S3 PT2 : Monke is the leader and killed my mom, I will kill him S4 PT1 : espresso, victresso... My mum died and now I am depresso... S4 PT2 : A small price to pay for freedom
there are no story like AOT. best fiction story of all time. not just in anime category. whatever category you can think of. im not exaggerating. every person really need to read/watch AOT, even non-manga/anime person
I love this picture. Usually, things go left to right in an image to make it represent past to present to future, yet somehow goes in a reverse direction. This can be seen from the order of Kruger to Eren, symbolising a movement in responsibility and importance at their respective time periods. Additionally, the motif of the transition from a stormy, uncertain reality to the open, free world opening up at Eren's end of the line paired with the birds soaring through the sky illustrates Eren's obsession with becoming free, unlike "cattle" such as Mikasa.
my friend who hasn't started s4 pt 2 or read the manga sent me this...he's adamant about avoiding spoilers but guess he didn't realize the spoiler in this image haha
kinda manga spoilers, not major but read at your own risk due to the founding titans and attack titans abilities combining and eren getting a touch of royal blood this picture is basically canon
@@divinehatred6021 the attack titan wasn't captured by marley it wanted to be *free* the attack titan looks like a plain titan but it renders it's user immune to King Fritz's vow
Eren wanted 4 things: 1) He wanted the people he loved to live long lives. 2) He wanted his people to be free. 3) He wanted to eradicate all titans. 4) He wanted to be with mikasa and always be putting the scarf around her. He achieved all except 4, he did it in the form of a bird but bittersweet ending for sure. The destruction of paradis 200 years later meant nothing.
@@grov3823 you’re entitled to your own opinion. But the ending to me was a perfect bittersweet. No protagonist who attempted genocide have happy endings. He achieved his goals in the end, that’s a win for him. He dies in 4 years anyway, he made sure his friends are well taken care of, Reiner and Annie included.
@@comboknight eren should've continued the rumbling, since he made himself get defeated. Also he character was out of character in the last chapter. All his development, just for it to be washed away by one chapter, eren was worse than season 1-3 eren, atleast i liked him back then. And even armin and hange making the alliance was dumb, they know damn well paradis is gonna be destroyed if they stop the rumbling.
4:44 every time I hear it. I just imagine everyone, my people finally waking up and seeing the truth about this world and what's inside yourself. standing up and ripping off "barricades" to finally see what's beyond the horizon. which is Freedom. Some day..
“The Lord saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time. The Lord regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled. So the Lord said, “I will wipe from the face of the earth the human race I have created-and with them the animals, the birds and the creatures that move along the ground-for I regret that I have made them.” But Noah found favor in the eyes of the Lord.” the book of Genesis 6:5-8 NIV
Read the description for the "Image credits"!
The three heroes of Eldia.
I read ''horses'' and I wanted to say that you are not wrong :)) they carried Eldia on their back
even though eldia was destroyed in the end...
The only one who achieved anything here was kruger.
@@kanra1283 just forget about 139
@@LawofAttention And even him was ruined.
It's crazy how Eren is only 19 and he's straight up flexing on entire nations.
He’s 19 in appearance but mentally he’s a lot older cause of all the memories he has.
@@outdose9997 and he implied multiple times that he has difficult time trying to stay focus on reality because he «sees» the whole timeline in front of him. So he doesn’t know exactly which moment is the present.
he had to do something he was going to die regardless, its in the end when he starts to realize everything hes going to lose and cant do nothing about it
It's also fiction
Really? So he got the Titan when he was 6, joined the military when he was 7?
One single picture can describe an entire history
And sometimes even the future.
This picture is can be literally interpreted as, the Past, the Present and the Future meet up in time
@@nuihau3042 This picture is basically a temporal paradox
For me this soundtrack describes the entire story as well.
I confirm
Eren Jeager, the man willing to become a monster to win freedom for those he loves
Eren Jaeger is a parallel between Loki and Odin
lelouch
The ending ruined erens image
@@warcrimeenthusiast7552 Never
@@mightyjoykiller okay daddy
6:12 is the definition of an eargasm
4:42 real eargasm
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sounds like FREEDOM
this image with this background music made me emotional and relax on an exhausting day
Most RELATABLE Comment Ever👍🏻
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I have invested so much time listening to every AoT soundtrack, but this takes the cake as one of the best ones I've heard so far
Same
Want to marry you bro
😂
Joe
You've invested so much time commenting to every video I see
same mate
In the world of attack on titan, there's no heroes, there's no villains. Only victims of war.
@surprisedpikachu 1000 percent true
Man is commenting on youtube the only thing you do? For fucks sake Go get a life otherwise you will end up like other losers on youtube who do nothing but comment shit
@@bev3140 It's not that hard to be like him tho. The average person views at least a dozen RUclips videos a day, and he probably tries to say anything wherever he goes. He's simply a celebrity now so his comments appear high.
@@themercifulguard3971 True and besides that reply to him was both a joke and a fact
I do say first king fritz was a villan
Also that gross guy that killed grisha sister
Aot have a lot of genre to its own, War, Dark fantasy, Romance, slight comedy, Science fiction including time travel and manipulating time and space
Aot also has the ability to turn the quality of the story from a masterpiece to fan service shitshow.
@@dr.rodrigo554 well that's just the end I care more on its background
@@dr.rodrigo554 the ending shouldn't really devalue the genres it applies to though lmao
@@KASTASPELL Yea but it was such a letdown. It's like post nut clarity. You did it, but you regret doing it (Or reading it, in this case)
@@jeffpenus9201 why would you regret reading a whole story just by a slightly disappointing ending? It's not even a BAD BAD ending, at least it's not like darling in the franxx lmao
This image makes believe that AOT is an ancient mythology of our real world
Agree
Google the Annunaki and the Nephelim
Stfu
@Yagami Eren ironic since the Eldians are supposed to represent white people, primarily Germans.
@Yagami Eren what part of history do I need to check?
2:33 there are no words to describe how this feels
1:52 for me :)
Nor do I have to describe your pfp.
Its like fighting your last fight ever, your about to give your life for your own country, to save your people
The greatness 4:33👌🏻🌹
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If anyone is wondering, 標 in both Japanese (Hyō) and Chinese (Biáo) means Mark. And that mark is meant to be Eren. Thus, the title is Eren The Coordinator.
Hey I spent quite a while making an AMV with this track, here it is: htruclips.net/video/sOrZVGGoxiU/видео.html
Lmk if you like it 0_o
The art gives off the vibes of old religious art depictions of scenarios that played out in their stories. It makes the aesthetic feel of AOT being far into the past even more prominent.
Imagine all of humanity is extinct and the aliens see this video and gets scared and thinks eren yaegar was real
"Oh god why did we come to this planet"
@@mtfalpha-1105 to find your essence.
I am real
@@mtfalpha-1105 Aliens should also see what happens when a mediocre brains possess powerful things
@@erenyeager221 uhoh
When aot becomes reality 👌
Dammm Yea❣️🔥
Oh god no
@@micahbellrdr2... LMAO
@@micahbellrdr2... please god no
It already is
The 3 epitomes of sacrifice.
Regardless of the ending, AoT has one of the best OSTs. I will never get tired of listening to the top tier music Sawano gave us.
What do you mean regardless of the ending? If you are trying to say you didn't like the ending, I feel sad for you as you failed to understand Eren as a character and the main themes of Aot.
@@Nik-md4to "I'm sorry that you failed to understand eren's character" 🤓🤓
Hey I spent quite a while making an AMV with this track, here it is: htruclips.net/video/sOrZVGGoxiU/видео.html
Lmk if you like it 0_o
@@MorpCentral Awesome work man. Made me forget the shit ending and remember peak AoT. Thanks.
@@Nik-md4to The ending was a pile of garbage, you don't need to defend it to like the music lmao. The writing was going downhill for a while but the last 15 chapters were an absolute joke. Characters like Yelena were forgotten, themes of how the Founder works were overwritten and the Colossals straight up vanished instead of going mindless. Or the way 8 scouts with infinite gas and blades beat an army of ancient shifters and an army of colossals with no casualties, in the steam that was supposed to burn them to crisps. What didn't I understand? That Eren was practicing his acting skills alone in front of the mirror, or was it with Falco outside the hospital in Liberio? 10/10 facade lmfao. Get outa here, it was GoT season 8 manga edition. Worse even.
NOOOO!!! I've been playing this for months now, and only because of the recent episode do I realise that the guy in black is eren, and he's looking into memories. Mind blown
You saw the spoiler but didn't understand it lol
Well Eren was the one who said Grisha's words back to himself, which Grisha had told Eren while injecting him. This is the loop Kruger started and Eren was the loop controller, if what I said makes sense
4:16 goosebumps incoming
4:55 NOSTALGIA AT ITS PEAK
Hey I spent quite a while making an AMV with this track, here it is: htruclips.net/video/sOrZVGGoxiU/видео.html
Lmk if you like it 0_o
Simply iconic to me, we have Eren Krueger, the Owl, Grisha Jaeger, the Usurper, and finally Eren Jeager, the Destroyer. All three held the power of the Attack Titan and all together in a way. Couldn’t do any better in my opinion.
"We just keep moving forward , even if we die , even after we die"
I know Manga readers knew about the twist but I’m here after the latest episode and I’m floored. But it all makes so much sense now. Also this art is perfect and means so much more after seeing the latest episode!
It all adds up to these three
@@Misscoldstar They kept moving forward
Story of Freedom
and which episode is that in anime??
Kruger is such a good character!
There are only two choices left: either the people outside the walls are humbled and die, considering themselves "hellish geeks", or they are fighting for their freedom and the right to live on Earth in the same way as all other people. In fact, I like this anime, and in principle this story is one of my favorites, since very important and complex topics are touched upon here. Thanks to this anime, you realize that the world really does not consist of black and white colors, it is gray and incomprehensible. There are no bad, good ones here. When I first started watching, Rainer and Berthold, and indeed all the warriors before and after the future Gaby and Falco, seemed to me bad people who just wanted to destroy innocent Eldians who were not to blame for the events of a thousand years ago, but later I realized that the warriors are not bad. They simply had no choice. It hurts me so much to look at this world in which Eren was born. He just, like every person on the planet, wanted to live freely and happily. But other people decided otherwise. The warriors also wanted to be considered as people, and not as devils. Everyone wanted to be free and happy. But someone or something decided otherwise.
It's even possible that Eren didn't want to become a monster, but he had no choice. Sooner or later, the Marlians would have come to Paradise anyway and started destroying everyone.
The beauty of human nature
The artwork is just amazing
Breath-taking shot !!! '
THIS IS THE STORY THAT YOU STARTED'
its scary to think it is physically impossible in every way for all 3 of them to be standing there at once
no its not, it already happened
@@Trathien- at once-?
@@TyTy-ep8pe yes
@@Trathien- ah I see, thank you for informing me lol
Paths man, just PATHS
Therapist: "Can you describe the problem?"
Eren: "It all started, when I was born into this world."
We the watchers(before read the manga) never even imagined in our wildest dreams that Eren Yeager would be holding that kind of Trump Card...Hajime Iyasama is really a great talented person and i respect him from my bottom of my heart for giving us a Magnificent Legendary series like A.0.T..
BEHOLD!!!!! EREN YEAGER!!!!!!😭😭
How come I never realized that how Eren got his name is from Eren Kruger when Grisha met him and got his attack titan ability, and Kruger told Grisha to start a family in the walls.
I really hope in Season 4 pt 2 they use a soundtrack similar to this one, I feel there might be some instances where a version of this, would feel epic!
Great job! I love this rendition
Hey I spent quite a while making an AMV with this track, here it is: htruclips.net/video/sOrZVGGoxiU/видео.html
Lmk if you like it 0_o
6:13 is when I begin getting an immense series of goosebumps I haven't felt since before what I'll call my "Falling" or as others say when I was "sick". Well over a decade, so many years lost and spent trying to find myself after the old me was as naive as young Eren, catapulted into a world that seemed to be nothing but against you. I died, both figuratively and legitimately some lost time after that understanding and a series of losses that obliterated what ever I had left for comprehensible living, love, the very being I am... Then after years of searching desperately, I realized the meaning to Stargate's quote "If you immediately know the candle light is fire, then the meal was cooked a long time ago." I am and always have been free and right where I'm meant to be. Devil or angel, these titles don't define me and nothing ever will.
Nice one dude
I’m trying to find the scene this soundtrack plays in.
What exactly does that quote mean?
When he pushed him and said i am the owl was so epic🔥
One of the most epic moment in AOT and all of anime
The three legendary heroes
Already said this in a different video but this hits different now that the anime has come to an end
Three Devils of freedom 🔥
😐😐
Truly a masterpiece
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@@MorpCentral it’s great!!!
@@jahseimmerritt8371 Thank you 💙 :)
This song is so epic you can easily smash every problem that may stand in your way just by to this.
S1 : Titans killed my mom I will have my revenge
S2 : Wait what.... My comrades killed my mom
S3 PT1 : Aight WTF...
S3 PT2 : Monke is the leader and killed my mom, I will kill him
S4 PT1 : espresso, victresso... My mum died and now I am depresso...
S4 PT2 : A small price to pay for freedom
Manga: I killed my mom
@@craftdoesmine7578
Manga I killed my earth*
"I will have my revenge" god of war 3 reference
S4P3: I killed my mom
i sometimes think that even isayama is wondering how did he imagined all of that
It's a real story kid, it's not an imagination.
there are no story like AOT.
best fiction story of all time. not just in anime category.
whatever category you can think of.
im not exaggerating.
every person really need to read/watch AOT, even non-manga/anime person
It hurts seeing this after the ending man. They did this trio so dirty man
I love this picture. Usually, things go left to right in an image to make it represent past to present to future, yet somehow goes in a reverse direction. This can be seen from the order of Kruger to Eren, symbolising a movement in responsibility and importance at their respective time periods. Additionally, the motif of the transition from a stormy, uncertain reality to the open, free world opening up at Eren's end of the line paired with the birds soaring through the sky illustrates Eren's obsession with becoming free, unlike "cattle" such as Mikasa.
Eren Yeager, God of Freedom.
*slavery XD
“We are all slaves to something “
-Kenny
Slaves of Freedom
Ironic since he was never free
A slave to freedom
2 Eren‘s and 2 Jaegers, but only one Eren Jaeger in this pic.
I return here once in a while.
This image is everything
I loved it. Eren is the man who transferred the power of the Attacking Titan to Eren Kruger.
Great artwork, EnvieP1 paints a cool perspective
Both Eren were badass.
3 generations of attack titan
my friend who hasn't started s4 pt 2 or read the manga sent me this...he's adamant about avoiding spoilers but guess he didn't realize the spoiler in this image haha
The first part of the song gives me chills!
credit to the artist @EnvieP1 ❤️
4:42
Levi : Say eren
Eren : Yes?
Levi : Do you hate me?
Eren : N0! I understand it was necessary
eren gay?!
I thought Grisha was holding a knife until I realized it was the photograph
Eren Krueger, and Grisha all hail the heroes of Eldia💪🏼.
One of the biggest revolutions were started by these 3 kids fuelled by the Attack Titan
The background is just incredible
This makes me want to keep moving forward, and fight for freedom.
*TATAKAE!!!*
This is a masterpiece
Tatakae ! Tatakae! Tatakae ! 🔥🔥
Three heroes of eldia. They sacrifaced everything for their country and people. Truly a masterpiece 👍
Unbelievable ❤️🔥
This soundtrack is so epicccc i love it
Rest in heaven Eren goodbye 🥹🥹
This is pure art.
Freedom at last.
This ost is so good definitely underrated
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Amazing story, loved it
That's a beautiful artwork, in so many levels.
kinda manga spoilers, not major but read at your own risk
due to the founding titans and attack titans abilities combining and eren getting a touch of royal blood this picture is basically canon
true
attack titan does not have any abilities on his own.
Its the Paths.
@@divinehatred6021 that is just purely false
@@Trathien- study the lore better
@@divinehatred6021 the attack titan wasn't captured by marley it wanted to be *free* the attack titan looks like a plain titan but it renders it's user immune to King Fritz's vow
I put the playback speed to 1.25 and omg it’s amazing 🤩
That's the point it's slowed 🙄
Thanks Zee
I thought it was shit at first, but dammmmmmmmmmmm
Edit:- normal speed is the best
Eren wanted 4 things:
1) He wanted the people he loved to live long lives.
2) He wanted his people to be free.
3) He wanted to eradicate all titans.
4) He wanted to be with mikasa and always be putting the scarf around her.
He achieved all except 4, he did it in the form of a bird but bittersweet ending for sure. The destruction of paradis 200 years later meant nothing.
Did paradis really get destroyed 200 years later?
@@ysvalla4237 after mikasas natural death yes, not any specific time after.
what you mean meant nothing, the ending was shit
@@grov3823 you’re entitled to your own opinion. But the ending to me was a perfect bittersweet. No protagonist who attempted genocide have happy endings. He achieved his goals in the end, that’s a win for him. He dies in 4 years anyway, he made sure his friends are well taken care of, Reiner and Annie included.
@@comboknight eren should've continued the rumbling, since he made himself get defeated. Also he character was out of character in the last chapter. All his development, just for it to be washed away by one chapter, eren was worse than season 1-3 eren, atleast i liked him back then. And even armin and hange making the alliance was dumb, they know damn well paradis is gonna be destroyed if they stop the rumbling.
Do more of these! :)
I am free,
No matter what I do,
No matter what I choose,
This is by my own free will.
-Slave
Can anyone link the artists twitter or any social media, I wanna see more of their art
@EnvieP1
Hiroyuki sawano
I’m blown away literally, this sounds super awesome
all of them seeked freedom. Only one succeded
This is my favorite soundtrack!
the Holy Trinity
I am just distracted by this amazing art 😍 it's so good I wonder who made it
4:44 every time I hear it. I just imagine everyone, my people finally waking up and seeing the truth about this world and what's inside yourself. standing up and ripping off "barricades" to finally see what's beyond the horizon. which is Freedom. Some day..
Honestly this is my favorite out of everything Sawano-san composed
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This picture makes it feel like a religious artwork
3 apostels of the apocalypse
@@tryanything5473 you right
I want this to play in the anime when Eren will ask Ymir to choose between being a slave or destroy everything
honestly the art of this show transcends this word
TATAKAE TATAKAE
I am completely addicted to this 4:41
This artwork is beautiful
“The Lord saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time. The Lord regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled. So the Lord said, “I will wipe from the face of the earth the human race I have created-and with them the animals, the birds and the creatures that move along the ground-for I regret that I have made them.” But Noah found favor in the eyes of the Lord.”
the book of Genesis 6:5-8 NIV
Art work couldn't be any better.
2:33 **THE RUMBLING STARTED**
"Even if we die, even after we die."
-
This hits even harder after reading theories about three different timelines.
Perfection
One of my favs!
Season 3 was peak entertainment for sure. S2 less, but still up there.