Rec games are exactly that rec games. So when playing with or against weaker player's, play your game. Its not about winning! Practice your game and specific shots! The players that have I must win attitude don't improve much. I see it every day Anyway, great information Nicole. Thanks a bunch.
You hit on and explained exactly what I am trying to work on developing. You encapsulated and laid out clearly the specifics of strategy. I struggle with reacting to the back and forth of offensive to defensive shots and recognizing and reacting in real time to repositioning on the court.
Getting better and better at these is a lifetime project which is part of what makes it som much fun. Yes, it's a constant dance back and forth between offense and defense. Way to be aware and willing to put the work in. :)
Nice. It reinforces for me what I should be doing all the time. One problem is that I get away with attacking lots and lots of shots against weaker players which gets me in bad habits. You're formula here is very helpful.
This is such an amazing video! Yes, I am biased because I am in it and on the receiving end of many terrific shots. But the strategies are spot on! Thank you so much for such and amazing and AWESOME content.
Whoa! What a great video. I'm not bad in pickleball, but I have never conceptualized what is the core strategy. And it boils down to 3 simple concepts. This is huge for me, because not knowing this, when in the heat of battle, I overwhelm myself on different shots I should play. Seeing PB from this view brings it all together. Wonderful video and many thanks. Attack, press, keep it low/neutralize.
I love this analysis! Super helpful and informative. Thanks Nicole! I'm struggling now with those same people who attack ALL the time. I'm looking forward to improving enough to stop their nonsense! lol
Glad you liked it and found it useful. It’s solid strategy in a nutshell. Thanks for the comment! 😄 yup, disarm those endless attackers. It’s totally doable.b you got this!
At rec level so many doubles players are playing singles each just doing their own thing. I’m good at the net, blocking and resetting and when with a good PB player we work well but the hard hitting baseline ex tennis players I can’t work out whether to stay back with them or try to play the net alone?
I’ve encountered the same issue, sometimes I move back but in general I stay at the net. Watching women’s doubles in tennis they seem to always play one up one back. It’s frustrating.
I can see how that’s frustrating. When you find yourself in games like that, I’d just focus more on skill development. Go up to the net and work your reflexes and blocks or Stay back and work your drops and resets and low drives.
This 3 Strategies video very helpful. I need to get my PB group to watch as well. Thank you.
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Hey! Great video, I am binging all the other videos on the channel! I would like to ask a question if you don't mind: are we supposed to watch the opponents when they are hitting the ball to get a better read on their shoots or just watching the ball the whole time works better?
You want to have "soft eyes" meaning yes, watch the ball, AND take in information about the body position of your opponent as they're striking and that will help to tell you if something weak or strong is coming back.
The three main strategies for winning pickleball (doubles): 1) be born tall with long arms: the compactness of the court gives a HUGE advantage to players with long reaches both left and right and who can't easily be lobbed over (with a larger court wherein you actually have to consider ball placement and spaing there'ss no such problem in tennis) 2) don't get paired with a subpar player because your opponents will hit it to that other player whenever they can (guess that's true in tennis, too) 3) if you have quick reflexes try to make it a dinkfest at the net; if you assess that your opponents have better reflexes than your own well then just be mean and smash it at them to get the points over with more quickly.
IMO, all hits fall somewhere on this continuum: - Putaways: adds multiple elements of pressure at near max magnitude, primarily speed. - Push: adds one or more elements of pressure at low-medium magnitude, primarily other than speed. - Lift/reset: slow, higher arc, lands shallow without other elements of pressure, giving time to improve/recover position. Elements of pressure: speed, spin, line of foot, forced movement, surprise/disguise. The Ben Johns Rule of Shot Selection: Choose a shot on the continuum along along with a magnitude juuuust sufficient to drop the shooting percentage of your opponents to be lower than yours. If not, you’ve chosen a suicide stroke and not a putaway, push or lift/reset. So maybe the continuum is putaway-push-lift/reset-suicide.
@@primetimepickleball I’ve got a lot of unique, good, geeky (mostly mathematical, one historical) pickleball concepts that would make for good content for you given your talent for illustrating ideas, if you’d like to collaborate.
Great instruction! But at 7.40 the female player hits a lob which forces her opponent back to the baseline. He then drives it right to her and stays back, while she at the kitchen smashes it to the cross-court opponent who of course hits the ball back. If she was smart, since the male opponent has stayed back after returning the lob, she should have did a short reset dink just over the net. I doubt whether he could have made the distance to get the dink.
Glad you thought it was a good session. Thanks for the comment Kevin! Yes, there's a lot in there to study. Repetition is the mother of learning/mastery.
I hear you! I used to teach tennis doubles a bunch. It usually comes down to players preferring groundstrokes and not loving volleys (or hating them in some cases). They’ll end up staying back and not capitalizing on their opportunities.
It's a fun game that has been around for a while and is newly popular. It's the fastest growing sport in the US and is most often described as a cross between tennis, badminton and ping pong. It's played with a paddle (kind of like an enlarged ping pong paddle) and what most closely resemblers a whiffle ball. Did you watch the video? That's pickleball...
Great questions, in a lot of ways this is already happening. Pickleball facilities are popping up like crazy. Some great efforts I've seen taken on by just one enthusiastic person are: 1) organizer of after work drilling sessions...book the court, plan the drills, gather and communicate with the players 2) You can also form a league in your area or 3) run fun and community oriented tournaments. These are off the top of my head. Tons of options.
There’s way too much to get into when it comes to strategy even in a 16 minute video like this one. We have a whole course on it at dominatingdoubles.com
I've seen ALOT of pickleball videos lately, and I have to say this is the best one I've seen. Resnates strongly! Thanks!
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Rec games are exactly that rec games. So when playing with or against weaker player's, play your game. Its not about winning! Practice your game and specific shots! The players that have I must win attitude don't improve much. I see it every day
Anyway, great information Nicole. Thanks a bunch.
Heck yes Jim! Love that mindset approach. Thanks for the comment!
One of your best Nicole. Many thanks.
Thanks John! Glad you think so.
You hit on and explained exactly what I am trying to work on developing. You encapsulated and laid out clearly the specifics of strategy. I struggle with reacting to the back and forth of offensive to defensive shots and recognizing and reacting in real time to repositioning on the court.
Getting better and better at these is a lifetime project which is part of what makes it som much fun. Yes, it's a constant dance back and forth between offense and defense. Way to be aware and willing to put the work in. :)
Thanks Nicole. I've been focusing on all these. Consistency is the key.
Yes!!! Consistency in all of these areas is where the magic happens.
Nice. It reinforces for me what I should be doing all the time. One problem is that I get away with attacking lots and lots of shots against weaker players which gets me in bad habits. You're formula here is very helpful.
Thx Bret! Yes, that is a challenge. You know what to do ;)
Excellent, excellent strategies. For me it's probably one of you very best informative videos. Thanks so much, we really, really appreciate it 🤗👍👍
Thanks Ben! Glad you think so and thanks for the comment.
This is such an amazing video! Yes, I am biased because I am in it and on the receiving end of many terrific shots. But the strategies are spot on! Thank you so much for such and amazing and AWESOME content.
JUSTIN!!!! Thanks for the comment and for being an awesome "demo dude". You hit some pretty terrific shots as well.
Whoa! What a great video. I'm not bad in pickleball, but I have never conceptualized what is the core strategy. And it boils down to 3 simple concepts. This is huge for me, because not knowing this, when in the heat of battle, I overwhelm myself on different shots I should play. Seeing PB from this view brings it all together. Wonderful video and many thanks. Attack, press, keep it low/neutralize.
Glad you got a lot out of this video Mike! I'm glad it helped boil things down. That was the goal :)
Great video with lots of information. For me it would be helpful to have a recap of the 3 strategies at the end! Thanks!
Thank you! ok, thanks for the feedback.
This is a good videos, the subject is covered with pedagogy and can be implemented in my play to increase my level. Thanks for your work.
You're welcome! I appreciate the positive feedback and I'm glad you found it helpful.
Nicole, the is a great video lesson!!!
Thanks Deborah!
Excellent strategies! Thank you!
Thank you! 😊. Glad you liked them.
Thankyou again Nicole! You remind us to keep the game simple.
My pleasure Art!
This video is smart, concise and accurate! Consistent Execution, patience & this game plan are a winning combination.
Thanks! So glad you liked it.
Terrific analysis! Boiling PB down to 3 core processes. Thanks!!!👍❤️👍
My pleasure!
Thank you so much. Very good strategies. Excellent for playing opposing players who are better than me too!
Awesome!
I love this analysis! Super helpful and informative. Thanks Nicole! I'm struggling now with those same people who attack ALL the time. I'm looking forward to improving enough to stop their nonsense! lol
Glad you liked it and found it useful. It’s solid strategy in a nutshell. Thanks for the comment! 😄 yup, disarm those endless attackers. It’s totally doable.b you got this!
Great video Nicole. Love the content of the lesson today. Can't wait to try it out
Awesome! Glad you like it.
Another amazing video!! Thanks so much Nicole! :D
Thanks Diya! Glad you like it.
This is an excellent vid Nicole! Thank you for explaining it so clearly! 💕
Thanks Ann! Glad you liked it :)
Your Best video to date Nicole! Well done!!
Thanks Ward!
Great Lessons, thank you !!!
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At rec level so many doubles players are playing singles each just doing their own thing. I’m good at the net, blocking and resetting and when with a good PB player we work well but the hard hitting baseline ex tennis players I can’t work out whether to stay back with them or try to play the net alone?
I’ve encountered the same issue, sometimes I move back but in general I stay at the net. Watching women’s doubles in tennis they seem to always play one up one back. It’s frustrating.
@@lizlemon9632 yes but watching PB tournaments it’s won a d lost at the net. So frustrating
I can see how that’s frustrating. When you find yourself in games like that, I’d just focus more on skill development. Go up to the net and work your reflexes and blocks or Stay back and work your drops and resets and low drives.
@@primetimepickleball okay thanks for some advice I shall implement
This 3 Strategies video very helpful. I need to get my PB group to watch as well. Thank you.
Hey! Great video, I am binging all the other videos on the channel! I would like to ask a question if you don't mind: are we supposed to watch the opponents when they are hitting the ball to get a better read on their shoots or just watching the ball the whole time works better?
You want to have "soft eyes" meaning yes, watch the ball, AND take in information about the body position of your opponent as they're striking and that will help to tell you if something weak or strong is coming back.
Thanks so much. This was great!
My pleasure Larry! Glad you liked it 😁
Very good video.
Thanks for helping.
Happy to help
Would like to see a sample of your double play strategy course
This video is essentially a sample of the course.
Thank you. Good video!
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it.
Wonderful lesson thanks!
Thanks Rich! Glad you liked it.
Thank you so much, excellence video.
😁. Thx!
Hi from the philippines i love your videos
Awesome! Thank you :)
Thanks!
Thanks so much Duane! I super appreciate it.
Thank you💕
You’re welcome ☺️
It would be nice to do a video on , the transition from tennis to becoming a proficient pickle baller,????
Thanks for the tip!
The three main strategies for winning pickleball (doubles):
1) be born tall with long arms: the compactness of the court gives a HUGE advantage to players with long reaches both left and right and who can't easily be lobbed over (with a larger court wherein you actually have to consider ball placement and spaing there'ss no such problem in tennis)
2) don't get paired with a subpar player because your opponents will hit it to that other player whenever they can (guess that's true in tennis, too)
3) if you have quick reflexes try to make it a dinkfest at the net; if you assess that your opponents have better reflexes than your own well then just be mean and smash it at them to get the points over with more quickly.
ok Rex. Maybe focus on what you can control and let the rest go.
Have some fun!
IMO, all hits fall somewhere on this continuum:
- Putaways: adds multiple elements of pressure at near max magnitude, primarily speed.
- Push: adds one or more elements of pressure at low-medium magnitude, primarily other than speed.
- Lift/reset: slow, higher arc, lands shallow without other elements of pressure, giving time to improve/recover position.
Elements of pressure: speed, spin, line of foot, forced movement, surprise/disguise.
The Ben Johns Rule of Shot Selection: Choose a shot on the continuum along along with a magnitude juuuust sufficient to drop the shooting percentage of your opponents to be lower than yours. If not, you’ve chosen a suicide stroke and not a putaway, push or lift/reset.
So maybe the continuum is putaway-push-lift/reset-suicide.
Love this! Thanks for sharing.
@@primetimepickleball I’ve got a lot of unique, good, geeky (mostly mathematical, one historical) pickleball concepts that would make for good content for you given your talent for illustrating ideas, if you’d like to collaborate.
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Communication.and rather than just going to play every time work on one aspect of your game.
Yes, both of those are important. 👍
Great instruction! But at 7.40 the female player hits a lob which forces her opponent back to the baseline. He then drives it right to her and stays back, while she at the kitchen smashes it to the cross-court opponent who of course hits the ball back. If she was smart, since the male opponent has stayed back after returning the lob, she should have did a short reset dink just over the net. I doubt whether he could have made the distance to get the dink.
Possibly that would've worked out well.
Another approach would be to keep attacking the baseline player with a drive
Nicole are you related to John. Celtic legend?
haha no but i get that question a lot! What a spectacular player he was!
wait, at 3:40 is that legal? it bounced rolled off her paddle and she hit it again
Did it? I'll have to look. if it did that it would be illegal but I feel like that's something I would have noticed.
@@primetimepickleball Might have been the angle now that I look back it lol, my mistake!
It's a good session on a key topic but will need several reviews to capture for me due to length and the audio while watching the video.
Glad you thought it was a good session. Thanks for the comment Kevin! Yes, there's a lot in there to study. Repetition is the mother of learning/mastery.
Me too. So much to unpack. But what a feast!
Hi , Doubles tennis is rarely taught so most social doubles players play as 2 singles tennis players , it drives me potty
I hear you! I used to teach tennis doubles a bunch. It usually comes down to players preferring groundstrokes and not loving volleys (or hating them in some cases). They’ll end up staying back and not capitalizing on their opportunities.
What the hockey sticks is pickleball?
It's a fun game that has been around for a while and is newly popular. It's the fastest growing sport in the US and is most often described as a cross between tennis, badminton and ping pong. It's played with a paddle (kind of like an enlarged ping pong paddle) and what most closely resemblers a whiffle ball. Did you watch the video? That's pickleball...
I lack the patience and attack too often. I'll be more mindful of that moving forward.
Sounds good! Keep at it 👍
In summary: get ball over net, patiently win every point, learn how to rush the net and reset ball
That's a plan!
How could we use pickleball as a tool to break out of our bubbles and empower community & economic development?
Great questions, in a lot of ways this is already happening. Pickleball facilities are popping up like crazy. Some great efforts I've seen taken on by just one enthusiastic person are: 1) organizer of after work drilling sessions...book the court, plan the drills, gather and communicate with the players 2) You can also form a league in your area or 3) run fun and community oriented tournaments. These are off the top of my head. Tons of options.
Pay me money!
very vague explanation, there should be a more precise and specific explanation, sry
There’s way too much to get into when it comes to strategy even in a 16 minute video like this one. We have a whole course on it at dominatingdoubles.com
All I saw on the last point was the man stepping in front of his female partner to take an easy bounce in the kitchen RIGHT IN FRONT OF HER!
He does that to apply pressure. At this level of play, the women are on board with the strategy and welcome it.
@@primetimepickleball that sounds like fun
Thanks!
Thanks so much! 😊