Advanced Backhoe Technique
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- Step up your Backhoe Technique with these Advanced Tips. Some of these techniques should only be attempted by experienced operators.
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Positioning yourself with the backhoe attachment... Rubber tire backhoe operators have been doing it for decades... Merry Christmas to you and yours Neil 🎄
Maybee some people need this trick, but operators have been doing this for years. And you can still reach you loader lever to put it on the ground. Love your vids good info on a lot of equipment.
@@facelesspsycho8252just wondering....... How many mailboxes you taken out in your career?
I like the tip of using the teeth of the bucket. And it also makes sense to use the boom and the curl at the same time. Thanks!
I am learning how to use a backhoe on my new job and trying to pick up more techniques. You are a lot of help thank you.
Thank you for the informative videos that you provide. We purchased a new Kubota last summer, (Not from you), and no one provided support like you do, (and I did ask). I have relied on this channel and a couple others for instructions. Please keep the videos coming. You are appreciated.
Another good practice is put the topsoil on one side an the clay on the other side. Makes finish work a lot better when trying to plant grass cause you can push the clay back in first an topsoil on top.
plant food not grass, and the garden will do good with the mixing
@@zerpblerd5966 Dumbest comment of the day and I've been on Reddit.
Yeah this saves a ton of time especially with my BX23S not having to swivel the seat every time
Been doing this for a while now with my B2410 and Woods BH70-X. One other thing that is helpful, you know those long reach gripper things for getting cans off high shelves? You can use one of those to work the bucket. I use it to raise and lower the bucket when moving the tractor with the hoe. I always keep it in neutral though since the wheels aren't even on the ground when digging. The bucket and outriggers keep it from moving.
It’s been a week and I miss my BH77 already, great units. Nice tips.
Nice job Neil. I’ll try it out next time I’m on the backhoe this week!
Thanks for a great basic and or refresher tip, whichever is appropriate.
Dumb question here: is a BH77 attached to a LX2610 more powerful than a mini excavator such as a K008? I still can't decide, buying a new BH77 or a a used K008.
Than a k008, yes. It's trivial to compare the Dipper and bucket breakouts on their spec sheets to see the difference.
@@MessicksEquip Thanks, looking for specs sheets :) I'm that kind of buyer....you know the one that always asks questions, hehe!
Don't really comment a lot, but watch all your videos. Really informative! I've seen this done, but wasn't sure how to do it. Now it's game on! Thanks for all your videos.
Our land has greywacke with tenacious clay.. The packing happens to me intermittently and I never knew why. I spray the bucket with vegetable oil which helps somewhat. Thank you!!!! Can't wait to try it. What a simple remedy for a b bucket that's full of ........dirt.
is it safe to do light digging without the outriggers down or will it put too much stress on the hookup joint? I'm always afraid to do anything since I do not yet understand how i may damage pistons/hookups
Since you can easily still reach it the FEL lever from where you are sitting, I would suggest still lifting and lowering the front of the tractor with the Front End Loader (FEL) and bucket between moving the machine and digging. But otherwise, good example to show.
This video and your comment officially made me decide that the backhoe is a good investment for my Kubota. Thank you both for being smart, haha.
[thank, you for you're great helpful video.👍 I, just bought a case 530 diesel Backhoe and never operated one before]👍
As a L2501 / B77 owner, I did not use the backhoe to move the tractor knowing that the wheels were engaged to the transmission and would shift seats to re-locate.
Using the range selector to disengage the trans is definitely an awesome productivity gain.
Why, however, is lifting the rear wheels off the ground important while doing so if the fronts are on the ground (assuming front wheel assist is engaged)?
I just got a bx23 and I find that the controls for the loader seem very hard to feather. Like on a forklift you have a pretty good range of hydraulic speed and control, but it seems like these controls are either full on or full off. I have the rpm’s set to the backhoe range. I’m having trouble with anything requiring finesse. Any tips?
Frank on the Digginok channel has some good backhoe tips, including how to move on and off or cross a ditch on a construction site. It's amazing to watch him do it, almost like mechanical ballet with a backhoe.
Very informative. Thanks.
Really glad u made this video. I’d love to see how you would tackle straddling a trench. I have to widen a trench that is running between two ponds, open air trench. Best i can think of is i have to crab over it like you are doing here, or lay some temporary boards over top of it to get into position. From researching a lot not much info out there
When I use the arm and teeth vs the bucket how do I stop it from pulling the whole tractor forward ?
Awesome. Thank you mate 👍
Gosh. Makes me happy to have a TLB with crawl.
Thanks for tip of how to stop packing the bucket.
Thank you! I have to dig a trench so I’ll get to put the digging technique into use right away. I have to dig from the side (step in the terrain) so I’ll leave the tractor moving technique for later.
good to see educational videos.
Yessir! That’s the ticket !
Good information. I've used this method many times. Interestingly, the manual for my BH70 says to avoid putting an upwards force on the backhoe. That could be for liability reasons?
Anyways, thanks for the video!
Possibly, but it may also be due to the nature of backhoe ATTACHMENTs, as they're not part of the main frame of the tractor. Lifting the machine at the pivot point of the backhoe puts a lot of stress on the backhoe attachment as well as the mounting frame. The vast majority of people that own these machines have no idea what metal fatigue is or how it works, but this is one of those maneuvers that causes it. Granted, a lot of these small tractors are over-engineered due to their target buyers being inexperienced, but I still like to reduce the amount of undue stress I put on my machine so it will last a lot longer.
I would love to move the tractor as you have shown. I have the same backhoe as you are using. My problem is I have a cab. The back window wont open with me in the seat. I looked at removing that window for the summer. To many things to disconnect to remove it
Is this ok to do with loaded rear tires?
Does Kubota have a model that actually backs up while working the backhoe?
M62-L45-B26
That good as u move in a straight line.
Many people think there is a pressure problem with their machine because they think they can burry the bucket and pull. I had a friend who bought an old 580c and thought that but after some pointers on how to dig he handles it pretty well for a sloppy old machine. I kept telling him to dig easy but he wasn’t getting it until I told him to get some potato chips and cold sour cream. When you can drag the chip and load it all the way across the sour cream without breaking the chip your getting the idea of how to dig. Remember machines can do and will hurt themselves by rough operators.
I like real life analogies. Makes things make sense. I'm borrowing the chip and dip one if you don't mind!
I am thinking also about thems damaging there tractors using 3pth instead of subframe mounted.
Digging from the sides trying to pull on big ass roots or large rocks can't be good either.
As a person who works for a construction outfit sure time is money. But a home owner that owns this type of equipment can take all the time he needs switch seats and try not to test the limits of his investment and realize it sure beats a shove by hand any day of the week. But hey that's just me....
Helpful tips Niel! Try using a 4 or5' stick you can use to push on foot pedal to travel forward or backward. Works on Hydros only.
This is what I do with my BX. I bypassed the lockout safety on the seat. (Safety 3rd LOL)
Stupid advice. Seriously, moving with the backhoe isnt hard and you have more control. using a stick could cause you to depress it to far and take off faster than intended or go further than intended, and god forbid you hit someone. I ever see someone pulling such a stupid stunt like that and they will be off the machine, if its someone on my crew, they will be off the job.
💥 Little confused 🤔, why lift the rear wheels off the ground when going forward. Isn’t it safer to keep them on the ground? The pivoting front axle could cause a roll over with any slope.
*Keep on tractoring!*
Good point there!
🎉NICE Thanks for sharing!
Wow! Thank you Neil! I struggle with the backhoe. I won’t try this move technique just yet. I need more time on the backhoe. I will be using the flat-bottom technique though. Thanks again for explaining these things to a newbie tractor user!!
Hi Neil, if someone can't get their dealer to respond to problems with their Kubota equipment, who can they contact next? Suppose something was delivered defective.
Another dealer, or call Kubota customer service.
If you put the tractor in neutral, do you still have to lift the rear wheels off the ground? Can you still just push the machine forwards with the backhoe (assuming outriggers and front bucket is up of course)?
Yes, that is what I do. I just push the tractor forward with the outriggers up about 3” and simply roll the tractor forward without picking the rear up.
I reach behind me to steer the tractor where needed. Replant the loader, outriggers and resume digging. Fun!
Dobre. Tak toto u nás vedia už aj 12 ročné deti. Nie je to žiadna múdrosť,len veľa rozprávania .
I spend a lot of time honing the skills of my equipment operators, 13 of them so it’s a constant process. One thing I forbid with my backhoes is, during to push back, angle change or tug back using the hoe, never lift the rear wheels off the ground . Besides stability, especially with a non belted operator seat, it places out of design stresses on the backhoe along with safety / stability issues. Lift the bucket a foot, trans in neutral, stabs slightly up off ground, boom out no more than quarter reach. Then small incremental pushes or pulls. Never on a slope, even a small grade. Any slope work requires brakes on, operator to use repositioning with traditional drive forward, or reverse. A competitor of.mine had a fatality a couple of years back with a BH coasting down the slight slope, operator tried to use the backhoe to arrest the travel and the unit flipped.
I leave the parking brake on - FEL on the ground - then shift from 4wd to 2wd and lift the bucket off the ground before performing the 'scoot' (lifting the back wheels off the ground negates the parking brake, going from 4-2wd lets the front wheels roll.
Oh and don't forget to steer the font wheels where ever you want to go... sometimes trenches makes turns!
You need a M62 with crawler mode. Only hard part is steering backwards.
Is the boom on the smaller BX tractors strong enough to perform this type of tractor movement? I realize the tractor itself is lighter, but my boom looks very small compared to the one you were using in the video. Thanks for the info, I'm still trying to figure this backhoe thing out. :)
Yep. No problem.
I move my BX with the hoe side to side and fwd and reverse with no problems. I like to keep it in neutral on level ground. It moves a lot easier. The 4wd fights back a little if I don’t.
Great instructional explanation of the bucket use.
it's actually easier just to reach around and put it in "forward" gear while in 1st after you raise the outriggers. Oh wait, you probably cant do that on the newer models with HST. I have the good ol L35. In 1st gear there's no way to go faster than 0.0025mph. :)
Perfect timing Neil. I've got to dig six 70+ foot long downspout runs next week with my 270B ( sorry, it a green one). in my limited experience, I tend to pack the bucket during digging and then smooth out bottom. I'll use the straight bucket technique the whole way down now and see if that helps.
With that much trenching to do, it might be better to rent a dedicated trencher. Trenchers aren't as fun to opperate as a backhoe, but they'll get the job done in less than half the time. And, since they disturb less soil (the trench they cut isn't nearly as wide as a backhoe's bucket), replanting is also much easier.
@@DKWalser Agree with you 99%. I'd love a trencher. But I already have the JD 270 B on a 2038R in position... I think it has a 8" or 10" bucket ready to go. Time is not a problem, but efficiency is.
I appreciate your vid, but like most backhoe vids, us beginners need to see what you are doing with the controls! Not necessarily what the bucket is doing. Or maybe do a split screen to indicate both. For example, if you want the boom/bucket to do this, then this is what you need to do with the controls. I have yet to see anyone do this. In my opinion, a video like that would help us beginners tremendously and probably get a lot views!
We will keep that in mind for the future. Have you checked out some of our older backhoe videos? In this one that covers operation of a Kubota BT602 Backhoe you can see the operators hands better.
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@@MessicksEquip Thanks for the response, I'll sure check it out.
[the, true reason why I bought a Backhoe is 1. I've. got 5-acres of bankgravel that I want to dig out and stockpile up to sprad out on all of the roads on the farm. plus, I've. got stumps to dig up and some clearing as well]👍
I may have to pack extra underwear when first trying this technique.
Kubota should build a bigger backhoe arm for the bigger models as to the M5 and M6. Would be better for more heavier jobs.
Hey Roger, while at a Kubogy dealership 9-15-21 buying new buckets for a bh92 there was a BIGGER kubota backhoe attachment for something bigger than a MX5200. I believe it will dig 10.5 -11 feet deep & fit the m5 series. It is something new.
@@donaldstrishock3923 thanks. Hope to find the model code to check it.
@@donaldstrishock3923 one of the bigger backhoe attachment they got, it's the M4011.
I do a similar method which is faster and safer with my old kubota L39 tlb. I start by placing footbrake onto fist click position, then lower front bucket with forks down into the ground, front wheels are in the air ( to get max. stability) I then put the gear box in low range 1st gear, but shuttle in neutral. turn seat around and start digging trench as wide as you like. to move forward without doing the long correct method , complete the fist dig section, drop revs to lowest setting.I then lift stabilizer arms off the ground ( enough just to be off ground: I turn around my upper body and lift front bucket to clear only enough to not dig in. if you want you can put the hoe into the trench teeth down close to the ground, so a quick down push for safety will stop forward momentum . I push the shuttle forward to run slowly in low range first gear ( slow crawl). I only have to move about 5 yards, so watching the rear and getting to my position, I pull shuttle out of gear and push front bucket forks into the ground, lower stabilizers and carry on digging. its very fast and you need a lot of experienced hours on your machine as well as think the sequence thru every time. I am able to do about 2 hundred yards trench in 2 hours. ( warning, not for a novice)
I was waiting to see how close he got to that tree.
Forget you seat belt?
I thought shifting the gear to neutral without pushing in the clutch can damage the engine?
No. As long as the gears are not rotating it slides easily.
Also, HSTs don't have clutches (the tractor in the video is a HST)
You really don’t have to pick the back up unless you’re walking sideways, you can leave the wheels on the ground and push just fine
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You forgot step 1: disable seat safety switch. Otherwise this is worthless to a Deere owner.
The BX is perfect for that, with the seat turn, it not much of a reach to move the loader up and take the park break off.
Even the steering it not that far too,
Cool idea! (1st comment) !!!
Rear end off the ground to move yourself forward with a hoe ??????? sure if you want to tip from side to side as you move and there are many instances in which you cannot put that kind of force downward, in wet sloppy conditions or clay, the bucket will just sink... and putting that much weight on the front tires alone is bad for them, they are not made to take that much weight, look at the load rating.... you can, with practice, swing the front end of the tractor around, just pull it off the ground with rear stabs up and you can use the swing to pivot on rear tires, saves reaching around to steering wheel... you can also place the bucket flat on the side of the trench, push for a bit ( remember to curl bucket to keep flat ) reposition bucket and push a bit more if needed, pushing down in your work area with that much force is not always a good idea, especially if your excavating for footings.... you cannot disturb the sub grade, it must be Native soil, un-disturbed you place footing on... I hope this helps.... over 40,000 hours running backhoe's.
Grease your Machine .. or you have a Worn bushing ...
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