6 Rules for Cinematic Editing

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Комментарии • 375

  • @jdanielortega
    @jdanielortega 7 лет назад +570

    We just saw a guy who introduces us to another guy who introduces us to yet another guy who introduces us to one of his scenes.
    Nolan would be proud.

    • @bakedutah8411
      @bakedutah8411 6 лет назад +12

      Daniel Ortega, I just read a comment from a guy who notes that we just saw a guy who introduces us to another guy who introduces us to yet another guy who introduces us to one of his scenes.
      I have no idea who Nolan us.

    • @mattrhys9418
      @mattrhys9418 6 лет назад +4

      @@bakedutah8411 Christopher Nolan made the dark knight trilogy, memento, insomnia, prestige, inception, intersetellar, doodlebug

    • @bakedutah8411
      @bakedutah8411 6 лет назад +1

      Party Penguin, ahh; _that_ Nolan. Doi! 😬

    • @morealpha5017
      @morealpha5017 5 лет назад +4

      He's the man sitting next to the man that's sitting next to the man that's sitting next to the man.

    • @varadlad4175
      @varadlad4175 5 лет назад +2

      Fkin saul goodman

  • @JRinneFilms
    @JRinneFilms 7 лет назад +509

    Ryan: "so today we have Adam to tell us about cutting"
    Adam: "so first we're gonna watch Hitchcock tell us about cutting"
    Hitchcock: "So lets take a look at the shower scene from Psycho"
    Tutorialception

  • @NickysChannel13
    @NickysChannel13 7 лет назад +347

    Hitchcock: "You couldn't just take the camera and show a nude women stabbed to death"
    Game of Thrones: "Hold my beer"

  • @MoonWalkerTexsRanger
    @MoonWalkerTexsRanger 6 лет назад +125

    1:34 - 11:15 : normal talking dude
    11:16 : ''Ifyoublnfilmakrantonverdmaindotkom..'' : Ryan Connolly

    • @infoana7871
      @infoana7871 4 года назад +1

      Surprisingly the auto subtitles are very accurate

  • @frankmakes
    @frankmakes 7 лет назад +82

    I love the discussion of psycho, to use the audience's brains as another camera.

  • @JAldricGaudet
    @JAldricGaudet 4 года назад +6

    Excellent presentation. Clearly presented with an eye to expanding on what the 2 best experts on editing say. My only note would be to clarify that Walter Murch was presenting a top ten list for each single cut. The most important thing to consider at the cut point is number one. If any of the others are included all the better.

  • @MarkHoltze
    @MarkHoltze 7 лет назад +4

    Read "in the blink of an eye" if you're interested in editing. Funny enough I always tried to find that book since film school. Never found it, but never made the effort to order it online or anything. That was 2002, 2016 I found it at a local chapters (I checked almost overtime I was there) FINALLY got it. Now in the time between I started to look for the book to when I found the book I was working as an editor on various different genres. Advertising, event, TV, documentary and film. Reading the book after having practiced the craft for way more time than when I was fresh in school really helped me understand the core concepts of this book on a 3D level. You know that level where you're just like "ya that's neat" but I can actually confirm the existence of these rules and the practice of say "thinking some shot on initial screening is useless - only to find out that later in the editing process that shot is exactly what the scene needs"...Anyway i'm rambling, but I love talking shop (editing specifically) so when I see something as detailed and high level as this vs "how to do a palm to camera lens transition in premiere" I tend to yak a bit more than i should in the comments ;)

  • @WeddingDJBusiness
    @WeddingDJBusiness 7 лет назад +8

    Good Stuff - It makes you think of how artistic film making has become. Once rules are made and understood you can then break them.

  • @miguelfcervantes
    @miguelfcervantes 7 лет назад +4

    This is probably the best episode this year. Thanks Ryan.

  • @charcharplays4946
    @charcharplays4946 7 лет назад +260

    it would be awesome if you guys challenged yoursleves to make a sketch with completley free stuff (software sounds ext.)

    • @SWADEProductions
      @SWADEProductions 7 лет назад +7

      Captain Cheesecake great idea

    • @nanowhit
      @nanowhit 7 лет назад +22

      Captain Cheesecake I bet you if they did, they'd use a $5000 camera

    • @SWADEProductions
      @SWADEProductions 7 лет назад +10

      nano.on.piano.official perhaps but they have said it over and over you dont need to worry about your gear per say but worry about your story telling. They did an episode with an iphone btw

    • @nanowhit
      @nanowhit 7 лет назад +2

      SWADE Productions yeah, I saw that. I suppose you're correct.

    • @ohmydaysdays6558
      @ohmydaysdays6558 7 лет назад +2

      THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN!!!

  • @74jeepcj6
    @74jeepcj6 7 лет назад +186

    Imagine Alfred Hitchcock as a RUclipsr today

    • @AbsolutKenny
      @AbsolutKenny 7 лет назад +6

      it will be legend.

    • @Oddmartian2
      @Oddmartian2 7 лет назад +30

      And he just does makeup tutorials

    • @SONGLYRICS
      @SONGLYRICS 7 лет назад +3

      he would run away from bunch of youtubers trying to be entertaining. In other words he would stay very much away from the internet because seeing image getting overused would make him sick.

    • @Bash_99
      @Bash_99 6 лет назад +15

      he'd start beef with jake paul

    • @WesleyProductions
      @WesleyProductions 4 года назад +1

      I'd watch it!

  • @he.smile_
    @he.smile_ 7 лет назад +76

    Watching a video of a guy showing a video of a guy showing a video of Hitchcock teaching editing through one of his movies.

  • @inspiredcircles000
    @inspiredcircles000 Год назад +1

    May blessings shine upon you, just as you have blessed others. Have a wonderful Christmas!

  • @bobunitone
    @bobunitone 6 лет назад +37

    Should be titled, Walter Murch's 6 rules of editing. Because that was the whole video.

  • @mdturnerinoz
    @mdturnerinoz 7 лет назад +7

    Great stuff! Enjoyed the 6 items and have written them down.

    • @filmriot
      @filmriot  7 лет назад +1

      +Marty Turner Right on! Glad it helped. :)

  • @ChuckHaney
    @ChuckHaney 11 месяцев назад

    That bear suit video is real and MIND BLOWING. If you are thinking "I would have seen the bear" ... you probably would not have seen the bear. It's truly an unbelievable experience.

  • @thekaiser4333
    @thekaiser4333 7 лет назад +47

    I would keep the "space dogs" and get rid of the "boy growing up".

    • @desertstonestudio3315
      @desertstonestudio3315 7 лет назад +12

      new plot. boy grows up wanting to be a space dog and is then kidnapped by space dogs and boy realizes being a boy dreaming of being a space dog is better than actually being a space dog.

  • @andrefelixstudio2833
    @andrefelixstudio2833 Год назад +1

    Excellent film information so much, I had to watch it three times! Thanks!

  • @aleebhangar-storyteller
    @aleebhangar-storyteller 7 лет назад +68

    Our Favorite RUclips channel 😍

    • @filmriot
      @filmriot  7 лет назад +9

      Thanks!

    • @aleebhangar-storyteller
      @aleebhangar-storyteller 7 лет назад +2

      Film Riot thanks for saying thanks. Over excited on your reply. 😅😇

    • @CreatorsCorner
      @CreatorsCorner 7 лет назад

      The Filmage Agency same there great, but I think there's a pretty cool new start up channel about creating

    • @emastephens3422
      @emastephens3422 6 лет назад

      Many thanks, I been tryin to find out about "videography tips youtube" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you ever come across - Piyason Videographic Ventures - (Have a quick look on google cant remember the place now ) ? Ive heard some super things about it and my buddy got great results with it.

    • @shyamsundergupta9773
      @shyamsundergupta9773 6 лет назад

      🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

  • @JonathanSchaefer
    @JonathanSchaefer 7 лет назад +9

    Yeah this was basically a 13 minute version of my semester long editing course lol

  • @ryantrynda3029
    @ryantrynda3029 5 лет назад +3

    really helpful, me and my friend are going to make a post-apocalyptic short film !

  • @SubmissionScript
    @SubmissionScript Месяц назад

    Inception moment: film riot talks about editing by going to professor talking about editing by going to vintage clip of Alfred Hitchcock talking about editing

  • @DigiFootageFX
    @DigiFootageFX 6 лет назад +8

    Hitchcock was so very interesting. His interpretation of film edits is elequent to say the least. I love how he says "we can't just show a naked woman being stabbed to death in the shower". However, nowadays that's exactly what filmmakers show.

    • @yuhyeet231
      @yuhyeet231 6 лет назад

      DigiFootage Channel nah, not really. Modern horror would just try the same thing but fail badly. The showing of what happens is more french extremism style imo

  • @4eb590
    @4eb590 7 лет назад

    Could you make a video about information about independent movies and how to get them in theaters? This would be very helpful.

  • @Babalooza
    @Babalooza 7 лет назад +19

    This Guy Edits is a good channel if you want more good editing education.

  • @redshirts4757
    @redshirts4757 7 лет назад +4

    I disagree with him at 5:47, he says that if you go against the vibe that has been established in the scene or in the film itself, that is bad. I disagree with this because this affect (going against the tone) can be used in comedic ways. Sudden tone changes in scenes will almost always result in a laugh, if done right of course.

    • @ossi8963
      @ossi8963 7 лет назад

      RED SHIRTS thats true but usually they dont use cinematic style in comedic films

    • @redshirts4757
      @redshirts4757 7 лет назад

      That is true

  • @WDSimp
    @WDSimp 7 лет назад +49

    Leave the space dogs in. Otherwise that film sounds a bit dull.

    • @Fuffuloo
      @Fuffuloo 7 лет назад +18

      If anything, it needs more space dogs.

    • @drewkocak
      @drewkocak 6 лет назад

      Team space dogs

  • @DMIINDSTUDIOS
    @DMIINDSTUDIOS 3 года назад +1

    Even in 2021! This video is still helpful!! 🎥🎬

  • @blakebauer5112
    @blakebauer5112 7 лет назад +5

    When u guys do episodes like this it reminds me of school days when the substitute teacher would just come and pop in a tape. Good stuff tho. MZed looks legit

  • @alphamedia338
    @alphamedia338 7 лет назад +1

    I would be very happy to make a video about that - "How to build a computer for video editing" , as soon as possible.... PLEASEE

  • @DJCashEel
    @DJCashEel 7 лет назад

    Whoa!! I was already enjoying the video but then Ryan mentioned CinemaSound and I did a whole double take omg. I helped film a bunch of Mark Edward Lewis's stuff when he was in Texas. You guys, I learned so much just from the stuff I was there for and MEL is a great dude, I highly recommend the course

  • @declancf
    @declancf 6 лет назад

    This is very good. I agree when he basically goes against the word rule in filmmaking

  • @LouisMedina
    @LouisMedina 7 лет назад

    Amazing, the hitchcock's words are emotional. Thanks you So much. Hello From Argentina.

  • @chosenideahandle
    @chosenideahandle 6 лет назад

    The MZed plug uses the same stock music as an Audi radio spot running here (Toronto) right now.

  • @cory99998
    @cory99998 8 месяцев назад

    As for the montage / impression perspective, if something is larger than life then how can life possibly convey it? The imagination is required

  • @MarkHoltze
    @MarkHoltze 7 лет назад

    You mean editing isn't just cutting out the slates!??!?! ;) JK I know it's not, editing tv/doc/films for 15 years and that's the general job description from quite a few in the industry which baffles me. Editing being the final re-write of any film is a highly creative and complicated roll. There's reasons big directors have their "go to editors" ... short hand and creative simpatico/problem solving is essential...cause lets be honest, nothing ends up on the screen as it was written or in some cases shot.
    Great content Film Riot...genuine and honest/informative.

  • @mobimedia3325
    @mobimedia3325 7 лет назад +1

    thank you for sharing Ryan

  • @SWADEProductions
    @SWADEProductions 7 лет назад

    Much needed video. Thanks Film Riot!!!

    • @filmriot
      @filmriot  7 лет назад +1

      +SWADE Productions 🙌🏻

  • @AryanSingh2512.
    @AryanSingh2512. 4 года назад

    This was the first time I watched a complete ad, at first I thought it’s off the topic, then I noticed I was watching your advertisement 😂 on your video.

  • @dhruvaprasaddevara1967
    @dhruvaprasaddevara1967 5 лет назад

    Walter Murch lists those editing techniques in the order of priority and less as rules. He himself says as they get lower and lower on the list,the 'rules' above them are more important. So Adam saying only the first one is important 'according to him' does not even make sense.

  • @pawaalfilms
    @pawaalfilms 7 лет назад

    Film Riot is our Digital University .always happy to see your Videos these are awesome Boss.

  • @shikharsrivastava9994
    @shikharsrivastava9994 6 лет назад +1

    Thank you so much, this is so helpful for us.. i am so grateful to you, keep inspiring us..

  • @H.A.M-PRODUCTIONS
    @H.A.M-PRODUCTIONS 7 лет назад +8

    I've been watching you guys for 4 years

    • @Avinele
      @Avinele 7 лет назад

      I've been watching them for 20 years just saying

  • @sinannofilmproduction
    @sinannofilmproduction 4 года назад

    So great, keep that spirit of bring new things

  • @alexpollock6932
    @alexpollock6932 7 лет назад

    My high school psychology teacher showed us the ball video and I didn't see the bear the first time. It's pretty cool

  • @ReenaUtubez
    @ReenaUtubez 7 лет назад +3

    ive always wondered how they shot one of those shots in the shower scene. the shot where the camera is pointing straight up the shower. if you were to do this without anything, you'll end up with water drops on the lens. anyone got any ideas on how they did it?

  • @hironrai
    @hironrai 7 лет назад

    Yooo... as soon as i saw that scene from psycho, you got my like.. kudos..

  • @nuruljamil
    @nuruljamil 7 лет назад

    thank you

  • @zerobambiro
    @zerobambiro 7 лет назад

    Your beard grows really fast in this video.

  • @ctrlaltCookie
    @ctrlaltCookie 6 лет назад

    Invenator? Man i really can't hear what you say in that advert, i mean it doesn't matter it's an advert but it bugs me. Useful video :)

  • @PaulMatematechapa
    @PaulMatematechapa 6 лет назад

    It was God plan subscribing to this channel.

  • @ArthurSyval
    @ArthurSyval 7 лет назад +50

    Fuck just about when i was going to sleep...

    • @Danha808
      @Danha808 7 лет назад

      Arthur Syval same

    • @MrTheManav
      @MrTheManav 7 лет назад +1

      Arthur Syval eh who needs sleep

    • @ArthurSyval
      @ArthurSyval 7 лет назад +1

      TheMr Manav it was 11pm in france dude and I've got school 😂

    • @MrTheManav
      @MrTheManav 7 лет назад

      Arthur Syval you should meet me when i have school..😁

    • @ArthurSyval
      @ArthurSyval 7 лет назад +1

      TheMr Manav looool

  • @blackrobotfilms9442
    @blackrobotfilms9442 7 лет назад

    This channel has really helped me

    • @filmriot
      @filmriot  7 лет назад

      +Black Robot Films So glad to hear that!

    • @AbsolutKenny
      @AbsolutKenny 7 лет назад

      same here :D

  • @WeegieMovies
    @WeegieMovies 7 лет назад

    Did you film your segment on the C200? Your vids are looking incredible these days; pitch perfect colour grading too.

  • @davidconnor5874
    @davidconnor5874 7 лет назад +1

    Damn, that's two weeks BEFORE I'm gonna be in Texas.

  • @davidchahal7682
    @davidchahal7682 2 месяца назад

    Thank you for sharing

  • @terribletallrus6520
    @terribletallrus6520 7 лет назад +1

    Great stuff. Hitchcock's presentation was kinda boring, but his message was great. Impressionistic approach. Love that. The 6 editing tips were also cool. Sometimes we get so caught up in putting in all shots we think are necessary without thinking of how it ties in with the emotion and story we want to deliver. Have to kill off ya babies sometimes, as he mentions :)

  • @anthonywillis8509
    @anthonywillis8509 4 года назад

    Interesting tips really made me think thank you!

  • @Thelondoman
    @Thelondoman 7 лет назад

    Thanks for your videos! Saludos desde Colombia. Do you have any video of how is the proces of micing on the set?

  • @j.jmarlon1417
    @j.jmarlon1417 7 лет назад

    thank you sir Ryan

  • @QuantayPeoples
    @QuantayPeoples 7 лет назад

    Can we talk about experimental films next?

  • @TheSmilyInc
    @TheSmilyInc 7 лет назад

    His Walter Murch impression is pretty on point lol

  • @WilliamMcAlpine777
    @WilliamMcAlpine777 6 лет назад

    I'm trying to apply these lessons to my vlogs.

  • @willstuber2622
    @willstuber2622 7 лет назад +131

    Why is cinematic editing any different then anything else?

    • @abisz007007
      @abisz007007 7 лет назад +87

      Its not cinematic editing vs uncinematic editing as a style choice. When you do uncinematic editing, your editing is not deliberate.
      Inside cinematic editing you can choose between different styles, for example choppy (draw attention to a cut, (documentary style)) or go with the flow (hide the cut, (matchcuts, cut on action)) but it always need to be a conscious decision to help tell the audience what they need to know.

    • @IrbinMedina
      @IrbinMedina 7 лет назад +49

      Because there many types of videos people make that do not require much thought. For example, vlogging. You would not want to edit a movie the same way you edit a vlog. That's just one example of non-cinematic editing.

    • @MeloFloww
      @MeloFloww 7 лет назад +1

      *than

    • @thekaiser4333
      @thekaiser4333 7 лет назад +10

      Cinematic editing is in head editing before the actual shoot. Watch Hitchcocks "Rope". Documentary editing is using what you've got to make it look good and tell the story.
      In short, d.e. is more about what you see and c.e. is more about what you not see.

    • @QuantayPeoples
      @QuantayPeoples 7 лет назад

      DobeyGraphics minimal camera movement and stronger emotion through the 5 senses.

  • @NessieAndrew
    @NessieAndrew 7 лет назад +4

    This helped a lot with my video game cinematics! Thanks.

  • @linsun23
    @linsun23 5 лет назад

    How does a cut support an emotion or vibe? The other 5 rules are easy to understand but a cut that supporting viewers' emotion, how is this evaluated? By making a cut now or later, by changing a shot from here to there, how would editing support or say ruin an emotion atmosphere?

  • @DilipKumar-jt3uu
    @DilipKumar-jt3uu 7 лет назад

    Ryan! Do a professional diy softbox (without cardboards)....tq

  • @francisco.leocadio
    @francisco.leocadio 6 лет назад

    Thanks for the info guys!
    I love film and I just shot my first video, I would love to know what you guys think of it!

  • @markoj.98
    @markoj.98 5 лет назад

    for a second there I forgot it was a film riot video, and the sponsor part surprised me I was like, why is Ryan here? xD

  • @bharathkumar2065
    @bharathkumar2065 6 лет назад

    Kindly teach us about right music usage in video in right movement in video

  • @TheFilipinoFilmMaker
    @TheFilipinoFilmMaker 7 лет назад

    I LOVE THIS!!!!!

  • @Zyswest
    @Zyswest 7 лет назад

    "And as I Say," 🖤💛🖤 Hitchcock

  • @mupicap7927
    @mupicap7927 7 лет назад

    Damn.. love dis channel

  • @jedgould5531
    @jedgould5531 Год назад

    2:15 Assembly. Isn’t that what the French term has always been? Isn’t that what Premiere Pro calls it?

  • @stefan1977full
    @stefan1977full 5 лет назад

    great video

  • @lachlansullivan-carey4293
    @lachlansullivan-carey4293 4 года назад

    Hearing Hitchcock speak is awesome.

  • @Othmarius
    @Othmarius 7 лет назад +1

    All of this is so very related to magic. It is crazy.

    • @yuhyeet231
      @yuhyeet231 6 лет назад

      OTHMARIUS MAGIC nigga what

  • @nitrousrecords942
    @nitrousrecords942 7 лет назад

    wanted this too bad!!!

  • @neonerfilms
    @neonerfilms 7 лет назад +8

    Who disliked before watching wtf

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  • @karinapo5337
    @karinapo5337 5 лет назад

    Would be better if there’re some visual examples too following what has been just said

  • @justinpartridge7255
    @justinpartridge7255 7 лет назад

    Aye aye captain hook

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  • @HomeHoodFilms
    @HomeHoodFilms 7 лет назад

    so real ❤

  • @camaflaugh4498
    @camaflaugh4498 3 года назад

    I'm a big fan of violent movies too!

  • @tommygareau1393
    @tommygareau1393 6 лет назад +1

    Walter Murch's* 6 Rules for Cinema Editing

  • @6amfilms-videostoriesforsm619
    @6amfilms-videostoriesforsm619 5 лет назад

    Amazing

  • @realydna
    @realydna 3 года назад

    would that make it a CLOCKODILE?

  • @smanjunathatarakram342
    @smanjunathatarakram342 7 лет назад

    Hi
    Can u please explain the data management for film and how data while to transcoded and encoded without lossing any resolution

  • @ramstaana
    @ramstaana 3 года назад

    Nice one, did i just watch a video with in a video within a video?

  • @manolisko8881
    @manolisko8881 5 лет назад

    good dude

  • @GiTxSHuM
    @GiTxSHuM 7 лет назад

    Why can't they just put "Walter Murch: Six Rules of Editing" in the title description. If anyone is interested there is more to it like character development. Read the Blink of an Eye.

  • @Nueztoy
    @Nueztoy 5 лет назад +1

    In spanish is called “montage”.

  • @GoodnightWalkers
    @GoodnightWalkers 7 лет назад

    Good stuff

  • @chittilappillyvinieth2465
    @chittilappillyvinieth2465 6 лет назад

    Thank you sir, but 1 problem i don't know english i know malayalam. its ok i adjust under stand

  • @starlightfilms.niravraning364
    @starlightfilms.niravraning364 5 лет назад

    V good awesome video, man

  • @andrewkemp8677
    @andrewkemp8677 7 лет назад +29

    Does Film Riot reply if you are early??

    • @filmriot
      @filmriot  7 лет назад +177

      No

    • @dustin7077
      @dustin7077 7 лет назад +5

      Film Riot 😂

    • @Crunchycard
      @Crunchycard 7 лет назад

      They are always good at responding to tweets *hint*

    • @JakesTech
      @JakesTech 7 лет назад

      Film Riot darn I wanted a reply

  • @LawnD4rt
    @LawnD4rt 7 лет назад

    A video, of a video, watching a video.

  • @gogovitch66
    @gogovitch66 6 лет назад

    thank you! :)

  • @Whadduphomie
    @Whadduphomie 5 лет назад +2

    Video starts at 1:22