I have an old friend who has a Morgan and a Weismann (with E39 M5s V8). He says he's taken up exercising because he wants to drive his Morgan till he dies. Morgan owners are a special kind, a kind I respect a lot.
Well back in early 1960's here in N.W. Ohio, USA, a neighbor kid who lived with his divorced mom had a Morgan Plus 4 and his father a few blocks away drove a '62 Buick Special convertible in burgundy color, white interior and top, Buick 215" 4 bbl. carb. aluminum V8, 11:1, of 190 HP, 4 speed Saginaw manual tranny... we had no idea back then that Buick V8 would become Rover V8 and end up in Morgans... as a Plus 8...
You guys keep me hooked the entire video. Love the production, value, and the knowledge you provide. Great content. Never ceases to entertain and amaze me.
Wait what?? Is Alex back? Stopped watching x-car regularly since he left but now he is back (hopefully permanently) I’ll start watching all videos again
I visited the factory when Peter Morgan was still around, I saw him there. Walking around the workshop within some lines painted on the floor, you could move around pretty freely. I remember quite a few BMW V8 parked on the floor and suddenly there where a loud sound and every person in the workshop disappeared. I was so full of impressions arriving at Morgan that I didn’t pay much attention to the short briefing where they told us to leave when the signal was heard. We where alone for a short movement and when outside the worker was sitting on the ground leaning to the wall eating lunch, one guy had sandwiches a bottle of milk and was reading Private magazine! Pretty weird. It’s was at the time one of the most hard core porn magazine on the market. The funny thing he was reading while working as well, when I entered one of the workshops he and a mate was reading the mag and when they noticed me they tossed the mag under the work surface and started working. Visiting MORGAN was such an experience, great fun.
Would be awesome if Carfection and specifically Alex, made a mini series to summarize the development of the upcoming engine and new model that will be replacing the Aero line! Please make it happen!!
Yes, back in early 1960's here in N.W. Ohio, USA, a neighbor kid who lived with his divorced mom had a Morgan Plus 4 and his father a few blocks away drove a sharp '62 Buick Special convertible in burgundy color, white interior and top, Buick 215" 4 bbl. carb. aluminum V8, 11:1, of 190 HP, 4 speed Saginaw manual tranny... we had no idea back then that Buick V8 would become Rover V8 and end up in Morgans... as a Plus 8...
I’ve got a Morgan 4/4, with a tiny 1600 engine in it, no suspension mods, original 1980s and you don’t need to go any faster, you can have just as much fun at 20 mph in it. In the Morgan, everyone waves at you and is courteous😁
Why do they just look like the quintessential English luxury sport car (max and coupe in particular) literally the personification of suave and quick in the UK in my eyes. Good on ya morgan
I hope they use an engine like Ford's Coyote V8. It would make logical sense since they're already using the Ford Cyclone V6 in some of their cars. Of course, Chevrolet LS/LT would be even smaller (due to its OHV design), but the LS/LT engine is everywhere as is, and would detract somewhat from the special nature of Morgan's cars. That said, I hope they don't stop using the V8. The day they do is the day Morgan dies.
Exactly my first thought. The LS3 that I have in my Chevrolet SS would be great in the Morgan, or a later version for better economy and even more power.
@@HaYouDontSay, well, they could pull a Lotus and use one of Toyota/Lexus Yamaha-engineered V8s. The 5.0l V8 Lexus makes is an incredibly powerful, fuel efficient, and reliable option. However, it probably wouldn't be the most cost effective. Hyundai/Kia also makes the slightly less impressive 5.0l Tau V8, but I don't think a mass-produced Korean V8 would suit the British luxury vibe. Nissan also makes several NA V8s, but their V8s doesn't really stand out in any particular fashion and are generally outperformed by all of the aforementioned engines in a variety of matrices. Then there's the Ford Coyote/Voodoo, Chrylser/Dodge Hemi, and GM LS/LT, but they hardly need an introduction. Needless to say, there's A LOT of naturally aspirated V8s still in production. I didn't even get to turbocharged V8s like Audi, Porsche, AMG (which is also included in Aston Martin), BMW, Maserati, Ferrari, McLaren, et al., as well as supercharged V8s (such as JLR group, Chevrolet, and Dodge/Chrysler).
@@flyingphoenix113 to keep the naturally aspirated v8 alive, they would have to partner with Ford, FCA or Chevy. Let's be real, they are the only 3 companies that will keep the V8 alive for the foreseeable future. Chevy and Ford make more sense because they already sell V8 cars in Europe, so it wouldn't be hard for them to keep them coming in Europe, and parts would be cheaper and reliability higher. BMW v8s aren't known for being both powerful and reliable. We haven't even talked about potential mods for either. Personally I would go Chevy for the V8 as it is physically smaller and lighter, so it would be easier for them to package
@André, because, arguably, those "Yankee" engines are better in every relevant measure. They are lighter, more reliable, more compact, easier to service, and last longer. They lose out in some niche categories like CO2 emissions and horsepower per litre, but neither of those are relevant for a performance car unless you are somehow restricted on displacement. Heck, the Yanks even win on fuel economy, I'm afraid (with the 6.2l LT1 being able to achieve 30 mpg highway in the US, or 36 highway mpg in the UK.)
Sound. Come on guys. A vid dedicated to the glory that is the V8 and there's 3 half-hearted revs mixed so low they might as well not be there. Get a nice mic selection together, plug them into a few multitracks and document this aspect of driving. Tunnel runs, track passbys, onboards...you guys have prime access to the swansong of the internal combustion engine. Document it. The vision is great on Carfection, but let the audio candy take center stage sometimes. Carfection extras idea: 10 minute clips of dialogue-free VR 3D video and Ambisonic audio of a spirited drive around some fast backroads.
i wonder if they'd ever try taking the turbos off of an AMG Mercedes engine and customize that a bit with ITB's and higher compression to make up for the lack of boost... if not, the Ford Coyote engine is likely the best choice out there as a spiritual successor.
The Ford DOHC V8 from the Mustang isn't far off from the BMW V8. It will be in production for a long time and are easily available already emissions certified.
The Americans still produce naturally aspirated V8s. Maybe something like an LS, a Coyote or a Hemi might end up under the bonnet of these cars. Probably an LS, since its physically small and the alloy versions are pretty light
Best thing for Morgan, is to go back to where it started. Go to GM, ask for use of their L83 5.3L OHV V8. 355hp and 383lb/ft of torque should be enough for it.
Throwback to when carfection actually used one of their best presenters, not trying to sound picky but without Alex I haven't enjoyed this channels videos at all really. Bring him back already!
i was having fun watching the video until.....that orangy car with black grill with regular looking silver slotted screw......why not just use black screw so they will not be too visible that they are just regular slotted screws......or its ok to have a contrasting color with the black grill provided they are nice looking special screws
That's the smart choice, but a lot of people say it's the boring choice, too; however, those kind of comments come from people who have never driven an LS - anything but boring.
you could also for go for the coyote, but the LS is a lot more old school and GM is never going to stop making them, also the modifications are insane.
@@genericallyaccepted, they could use the Voodoo for special editions and even a GT3/GTE varriant. How crazy would that 8000 RPM sound be coming out of a Morgan Aero8!?!
I have an old friend who has a Morgan and a Weismann (with E39 M5s V8). He says he's taken up exercising because he wants to drive his Morgan till he dies. Morgan owners are a special kind, a kind I respect a lot.
Adeel A. Ahmad its Wiesmann not Weismann pls, thanks!
@@peterkranich4235 Oh, I didn't recall that. Thanks for correcting sir ✌️
Well back in early 1960's here in N.W. Ohio, USA, a neighbor kid who lived with his divorced mom had a Morgan Plus 4 and his father a few blocks away drove a '62 Buick Special convertible in burgundy color, white interior and top, Buick 215" 4 bbl. carb. aluminum V8, 11:1, of 190 HP, 4 speed Saginaw manual tranny... we had no idea back then that Buick V8 would become Rover V8 and end up in Morgans... as a Plus 8...
Glad to have you back, Alex
You guys keep me hooked the entire video. Love the production, value, and the knowledge you provide. Great content. Never ceases to entertain and amaze me.
Isn't that Lancia Thesis taillight? Always loved that shape
Thanks Alex. that was so good!!!
Great video. Thank you. Alex is amazing when he doesn’t go off tirelessly. Perfect dose of talking here. Keep it up.
As always, wonderful video. Beautiful, direct to the point, and informative.
Wait what?? Is Alex back? Stopped watching x-car regularly since he left but now he is back (hopefully permanently) I’ll start watching all videos again
What a great item Alex thanks
Beautiful car, perfect for my lifestyle as an Architect !
I visited the factory when Peter Morgan was still around, I saw him there. Walking around the workshop within some lines painted on the floor, you could move around pretty freely. I remember quite a few BMW V8 parked on the floor and suddenly there where a loud sound and every person in the workshop disappeared. I was so full of impressions arriving at Morgan that I didn’t pay much attention to the short briefing where they told us to leave when the signal was heard. We where alone for a short movement and when outside the worker was sitting on the ground leaning to the wall eating lunch, one guy had sandwiches a bottle of milk and was reading Private magazine! Pretty weird. It’s was at the time one of the most hard core porn magazine on the market. The funny thing he was reading while working as well, when I entered one of the
workshops he and a mate was reading the mag and when they noticed me they tossed the mag under the work surface and started working. Visiting MORGAN was such an experience, great fun.
Would be awesome if Carfection and specifically Alex, made a mini series to summarize the development of the upcoming engine and new model that will be replacing the Aero line! Please make it happen!!
YES!
Morgan + the Rover V8 = a winner to me
Yes, back in early 1960's here in N.W. Ohio, USA, a neighbor kid who lived with his divorced mom had a Morgan Plus 4 and his father a few blocks away drove a sharp '62 Buick Special convertible in burgundy color, white interior and top, Buick 215" 4 bbl. carb. aluminum V8, 11:1, of 190 HP, 4 speed Saginaw manual tranny... we had no idea back then that Buick V8 would become Rover V8 and end up in Morgans... as a Plus 8...
Proto blue Aero 8, very good !
I am a big fan of Morgan i just love it
Love the Morgan Aero 8 🙏♥️♥️😎
Alex is back!!!
I’ve got a Morgan 4/4, with a tiny 1600 engine in it, no suspension mods, original 1980s and you don’t need to go any faster, you can have just as much fun at 20 mph in it. In the Morgan, everyone waves at you and is courteous😁
Lets not get carried away, want a dragster ? By one in USA., way back had an MGA gutless but fun to drive around. especially in the cold winters.
Why do they just look like the quintessential English luxury sport car (max and coupe in particular) literally the personification of suave and quick in the UK in my eyes. Good on ya morgan
I really love Morgan w/v8s
They should ask Lexus if they have some of their new 5 litre NA V8s laying around ;-)
AMEN to that my brother.
Excellent stuff!
1 Correction: The V8 in all but the first generation of Aero was the 4.7L BMW(367BHP) not the 4.4L BMW.
My dream cars!!! all of them.
I hope they use an engine like Ford's Coyote V8. It would make logical sense since they're already using the Ford Cyclone V6 in some of their cars. Of course, Chevrolet LS/LT would be even smaller (due to its OHV design), but the LS/LT engine is everywhere as is, and would detract somewhat from the special nature of Morgan's cars. That said, I hope they don't stop using the V8. The day they do is the day Morgan dies.
Exactly my first thought. The LS3 that I have in my Chevrolet SS would be great in the Morgan, or a later version for better economy and even more power.
Who else is using a V8 that they could potentially use if Morgan wanted to avoid the classic 'throw in an LS!'?
@@HaYouDontSay, well, they could pull a Lotus and use one of Toyota/Lexus Yamaha-engineered V8s. The 5.0l V8 Lexus makes is an incredibly powerful, fuel efficient, and reliable option. However, it probably wouldn't be the most cost effective. Hyundai/Kia also makes the slightly less impressive 5.0l Tau V8, but I don't think a mass-produced Korean V8 would suit the British luxury vibe. Nissan also makes several NA V8s, but their V8s doesn't really stand out in any particular fashion and are generally outperformed by all of the aforementioned engines in a variety of matrices. Then there's the Ford Coyote/Voodoo, Chrylser/Dodge Hemi, and GM LS/LT, but they hardly need an introduction.
Needless to say, there's A LOT of naturally aspirated V8s still in production. I didn't even get to turbocharged V8s like Audi, Porsche, AMG (which is also included in Aston Martin), BMW, Maserati, Ferrari, McLaren, et al., as well as supercharged V8s (such as JLR group, Chevrolet, and Dodge/Chrysler).
@@flyingphoenix113 to keep the naturally aspirated v8 alive, they would have to partner with Ford, FCA or Chevy. Let's be real, they are the only 3 companies that will keep the V8 alive for the foreseeable future.
Chevy and Ford make more sense because they already sell V8 cars in Europe, so it wouldn't be hard for them to keep them coming in Europe, and parts would be cheaper and reliability higher. BMW v8s aren't known for being both powerful and reliable. We haven't even talked about potential mods for either. Personally I would go Chevy for the V8 as it is physically smaller and lighter, so it would be easier for them to package
@André, because, arguably, those "Yankee" engines are better in every relevant measure. They are lighter, more reliable, more compact, easier to service, and last longer. They lose out in some niche categories like CO2 emissions and horsepower per litre, but neither of those are relevant for a performance car unless you are somehow restricted on displacement. Heck, the Yanks even win on fuel economy, I'm afraid (with the 6.2l LT1 being able to achieve 30 mpg highway in the US, or 36 highway mpg in the UK.)
Fascinating little video :)
Great car so very English long live Morgan cars.ps " made in the heart of Britain " ! MADE IN THE HEART OF ENGLAND .
Sound. Come on guys. A vid dedicated to the glory that is the V8 and there's 3 half-hearted revs mixed so low they might as well not be there. Get a nice mic selection together, plug them into a few multitracks and document this aspect of driving. Tunnel runs, track passbys, onboards...you guys have prime access to the swansong of the internal combustion engine. Document it. The vision is great on Carfection, but let the audio candy take center stage sometimes. Carfection extras idea: 10 minute clips of dialogue-free VR 3D video and Ambisonic audio of a spirited drive around some fast backroads.
I wanted an AeroMax and Supersport but I was told these were not legal for sale in the USA.
I love these cars!! Especially the 3-Wheeler! Thx for this great video :)
RUclips is Carfection and Harry's Garage. The rest is simply filler.
I like Carfection alot, but i also like MRJWW and shmee. Harrys garage not do much for me. When jay leno has the right car that's excellent too
Doug DeMuro honourable mention. You just can't hate the guy for the sheer detail he goes into
@@XZagatoX to Doug is very boring and his drives are terrible for detail and drive i will take shmee anyday
Petrolicious, rcr, carwow, some donut stuff
Fortnine, 44teeth, drivemag riders, bsmc for motorcycles
damn love the morgans :)
Great report , love em or hate em , the Morgan is a British icon , I'll take an Aero and a 3 wheeler please,
phill ollard , stand in line.
Alex should be a top gear presenter
There are loads of American V8s that already come as crate engines they could use.
Agreed.and a lot easier to maintain
Looks like something jack the ripper would drive on the weekends
i wonder if they'd ever try taking the turbos off of an AMG Mercedes engine and customize that a bit with ITB's and higher compression to make up for the lack of boost... if not, the Ford Coyote engine is likely the best choice out there as a spiritual successor.
It's brill, as I have one!
Long live the V8s
DE LO MEJOR.
The Ford DOHC V8 from the Mustang isn't far off from the BMW V8. It will be in production for a long time and are easily available already emissions certified.
For the style of car a Morgan is the addition of supercharger whine is the way to go, chittering turbos not so much.
The Americans still produce naturally aspirated V8s. Maybe something like an LS, a Coyote or a Hemi might end up under the bonnet of these cars. Probably an LS, since its physically small and the alloy versions are pretty light
It's a shame the E90/92 BMW M3 4.0 liter V8 didn't find its way into one of these. Reeeevvvvssss!
Lotus V6 from the evora...
BMW I6 from the 140i...
Jaguar V8 with no supercharger...
Yamaha V8 like Noble M600?
Lotus V6 ? You mean Toyota V6
When we think of V8, we think of Rover.
Best thing for Morgan, is to go back to where it started. Go to GM, ask for use of their L83 5.3L OHV V8. 355hp and 383lb/ft of torque should be enough for it.
What happened to NA V8’s? They re forbidden by UK environmental laws now ? Nice Vid Alex!
Throwback to when carfection actually used one of their best presenters, not trying to sound picky but without Alex I haven't enjoyed this channels videos at all really. Bring him back already!
Why not turn to Jaguar? They have a quite nice 5.0 Supercharged V8 that makes all the right noises and has the power to boot
That FLAT windscreen spoils the look of the car
where are your glasses??
かっこいいですね。^_^
that 50th aniversary blue car is swick
Jag V8
Jeder an der Führungen..Haben Sie Wissenheit & Wissenschaftlich Lebenslange.Wünsche ich Euch die Gesundheit......
i was having fun watching the video until.....that orangy car with black grill with regular looking silver slotted screw......why not just use black screw so they will not be too visible that they are just regular slotted screws......or its ok to have a contrasting color with the black grill provided they are nice looking special screws
They should be powered by chevy LS going forward.
That's the smart choice, but a lot of people say it's the boring choice, too; however, those kind of comments come from people who have never driven an LS - anything but boring.
@@genericallyaccepted a Coyote would make more sense since they are already using Ford as an engine supplier (I believe for their Cyclone V6)
you could also for go for the coyote, but the LS is a lot more old school and GM is never going to stop making them, also the modifications are insane.
The Voodoo would be dope, too
@@genericallyaccepted, they could use the Voodoo for special editions and even a GT3/GTE varriant. How crazy would that 8000 RPM sound be coming out of a Morgan Aero8!?!
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Why they don't use American V8, they are more affordable, reliable and modern V8 have a lot of power as well
Id love to see a straight 6 performance, wood chasis car with a tesla battery
I doubt the chassis could handle the weight of the battery. And as Morgan have yet to reach the 21st century I doubt their customers are bothered.
An LT1 would do just fine.
yep, two years later the top model is a turbo i6 :/
Rcf v8 would be awesome in the morgan
Surely the logical choice is ford v8 as they already partner with ford on the smaller cars.
Prefer the Series iv Aero 8 as no strugle with the hood and hood bars!
'Fastest accelerating UK road car'. AC must have stopped making the Cobra by then?
USA's Shelby made the Cobra...
@@BuzzLOLOL no. Every single Cobra was made by AC cars in Thames Ditton, England, and that's a fact! Any car that wasn't isn't a real AC Cobra!
@@julianneale6128 - Under the auspices of American Carroll Shelby... and later only by Carroll Shelby...
AC designed and built the Cobra to to Shelby's requests. The Cobra in an English sports car with an American engine and gearbox.
@@julianneale6128 - I have similar... 1975 MG Midget with Buick V8 and B-W T50 5 speed manual tranny...
Why don't they just go the LS way and keep the NA V8???
Time to go BEV.
Need for speed should introduce morgan aero super sport
A Ford derived V6tt.
Morgan should source their V8 engines from Chevrolet after they've used up all their BMW V8's.
I did that in '79 with my Plus 8. Much more competitive in autocross!
Let's be real, it's just gonna be an LS engine...
I only came for the orange one...dissapointed.
A Morgan with a Hellcat engine would be the best sports car ever!
In the mid 2000s something wonderful happened, Morgan go even uglier
not once do you let us hear the engine? thumbs down