I have a feeling that a LOT of younger people watch these like they are at Studio 54 in 1978. Also; some people missed this scene by only 5 or 10 years. Others by 40 years. I was about 27/ 28 in 1989 and was in the city a lot BUT I was not "clubbing" because I was more into Rock not disco. I was also in the closet. @@KarlSnarks
Nelson Sullivan was way ahead of his time with his vlogs. A fascinating inside look into the NYC club scene of the late 80's. A shame he passed at such an early age.
Regardless of what we think of Nelson's friends and acquaintances in NY, these videos are a true picture of a facet of the life they led in the city, and how they responded to the camera.
This one offers a great insight into Alig's character. Both the awkward situation with the room and him running around telling everyone how empty Mars is. Everyone who wasn't there sure as hell wasn't at your party Michael.
As soon as I saw the video about Michael Alig being a murderer, I immediately thought, "I bet Nelson had footage of him in his vlog," and he ends up being the birthday boy in this video. Unreal. Well, at least Nelson didn't live to see what became of his friend or the death of the Club Kid scene. Rest in Peace to Angel Melendez.
I remember when I was 13 I was hanging out with a much older crew and they used to sneak me into the world and the tunnel of course Limelight and red zone I'll never forget the day that the twins found out how old I was and they will all over me saying OMG she's so pretty she's beautiful she's so young I love her those were the days!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@kekwayblaze3176 I know that Dick Richards was the one uploading 5ninthavenueproject before he died. World of Wonder also had access to the videos at one time too, but I think they are now archived in the NYU library like you said. And Retro room is a pretty good source for facts so if he said it I wouldn't doubt they are there.
@@JB-zo7ln I wish someone would get definitive word on what happened to reportedly hundreds of hours of these home movies Nelson made, like are they all archived in the NYU library now never to see public release.
I swear look at any video from the late 80’s early 90’s and Michael Musto is there. And then of course later he would trash all these people like he was never part of it.
it was his JOB to be there. He was a nightlife columnist. How do you expect him to get stories to write about without actually being at these events? Go back and watch the Geraldo videos with all the club kids, it was obvious that Michael Musto was nothing like the rest of the them, and was usually the only one who could form a complete sentence. I think him and Nelson were good friends, but obviously Nelson wasn't outrageous like the club kids either.
@@willcourtneyspanish he was not of good friend of Nelson ! When Nelson died he said in an interview that Nelson was nothing and had nothing special without his camera.
most of these peoples attitudes were just so ugly it made them ugly..They seem very all about their selfs and didn't care for each other really.Always trying to out do the other be more over the top and out landish.Just seem cold and cruel to each other.Nelson was only one besides Ru who acted like they had some class and carfed for others..Miss you nelson wish you were still with us.Ty for these videos they are pure gold.
The 80s were very much about individualism, greed, success at any price, and judging by appearance rather than merit or values. It wasn't just these people. Read Bret Easton Ellis or watch 80s films. It was a wonderful time to be a child which I was but a cutthroat time in business.
it's so cool to see such a mixture of the classes of people. I was just thinking how I could never hang with people like this. How I am probably too low-class for their taste. Then Brandywine says she is working at Wendy's . I remember how she seemed to be one of the popular ones in the videos. That made me feel a lot better. Idk why I am sharing that I just felt moved by it. It's cool that so many different kinds of people hung together with no judgment.
Most but not all of the people in this video went on to tragedies. Murderers, drugs, mental illness, death at early ages, etc. Whether someone works at Wendy's or Wall Street it is sad to see this kind of self destructive behavior.
In any big city-- it was VERY common to see a "mixed bag" of people w/ different careers ( there was ALWAYS one guy / girl that was ALWAYS unemployed and looking, as well as "boring office cube jobs" . I knew people that were doormen in apartment buildings , people that worked in the TV and Movie costume industry, and people who worked for United Cerebal Palsy . So yeah- REAL mixed bag. I was the perpetual "starving artist" even though I did see some shiny bits of success over the years) . @@spontina
It's funny to see how Michael was/carried himself before drugs and after. You can totally see the flip in eyes/demeanor and way more narcissism. Great content from Nelson, thank you for your tapes!! I know he's watching from where ever he is!
5:00 Bunny: Keep that thing (camera) away from me unless you want a drink on it. Lahoma: Bunny don't pour that on him...Bunny that's Nelson! ROTFL~ omg!
It's rare to see Keoki in these videos @1:43 yet here he is wearing his own t-shirt! I wish there were more videos of Keoki when he was part of the Club Kids scene starting out his DJ career.
I wish I had an opportunity to talk to Nelson Sullivan. He'll, I wish I could have a conversation with Michael Alig as well. Neither can be done now. I would really like to sit down and talk to someone from this scene over a cup of coffee. So many questions.
I wondered that very same thought. For some reason I feel like he didn't hide it though. Maybe he didn't wear the makeup and wigs to work, but he probably was happy to tell people who he was. That's my guess.
*SCREAMS IN EAR* I'M THE NEW TRAINING MANAGER AT THE WENDY'S AT EAST 42ND STREET HERE LET ME GIVE YOU A COUPON. I live for slice of life pieces of history.
People were a lot more comfortable in front of a camera back then cause it wasn't being uploaded to thousands on social media... at least not for another 30 years lol
Ok, I found a video where James St James is interviewing RuPaul, who brings up Dick Richards & Nelson (as two of his mentors) at about 3:05 or 3:10. Ru pays lovely compliments to both men & credits them with helping him become who he is as a gay man. If what you're looking for is "proof," here ya go! ruclips.net/video/y1-FAw7eSCA/видео.html
Michael is pompus, but charming. At 4:02 Lahoma makes a little noise about the yellow tables which sets Michael off on one of his "look at me, I need attention" moments. He was always needing to be the center of attention, even when he was showing off the new room he designed. Heaven forbid the room get all the attention, Michael is there... he should be getting the attention: enter the "all eyes on me" comment of "you don't like the room", "It's beautiful.", "Yeah, whatever." ALL EYES ON ME!
I love all of Nelson's Film footage but I don't know if it's the Camera work or the memories of the 80s I have but I always feel nauseous watching....... LOL. Party days and hang overs XXXX
Thank you, Nelson, for this view into a time that predates me, or at least predates me in a time that I could’ve enjoyed it. Wow. Nostalgia for a time I never experienced..
Alig never really liked Nelson. He said it several times. You can tell from his body language etc anyway in the videos. He never talks to Nelson & when ever he’s around Michael will start whispering to his mom or Keoki etc. Alig purposely didn’t invite him to the party yet he shows up anyway 😆 🤦♂️
NYC during the 70s 80s and 90s was such an interesting, creative, dirty, grimy, dangerous and fun time. But to watch some of these people and not see the writing on the wall that this scene wasn't gonna end well was obvious. Of course hindsight is 20/20 but you can clearly see this wouldn't end well. I don't think anyone thought it would end the way it actually did. But whether it was the drugs or a suicide or the FEDS going after Gatien, you could see where it was headed
Lady Bunny was so pretty and girly looking when in drag, I never understood why he hated being on camera? It's weird, because his voice didn't really fit back then, but now it does. IMO
This is the party that Nelson was obsessing over like a child cause he wasn’t invited. 🤦♂️ He made several videos crying about the fact he wasn’t invited.
I can’t stop binge watching these...is it just me?😂
Each week i wait for Friday 5 pm to punch out and start watching these😄 Flashbacks to my past clubbing & raving days
@@guybrushthreepwood3054 Were you part of the NY club scene of that time too, or do you mean it just reminds you of your own raving days?
@KarlSnarks haha no, just my own experience in mid 90s Europe
I have a feeling that a LOT of younger people watch these like they are at Studio 54 in 1978. Also; some people missed this scene by only 5 or 10 years. Others by 40 years. I was about 27/ 28 in 1989 and was in the city a lot BUT I was not "clubbing" because I was more into Rock not disco. I was also in the closet. @@KarlSnarks
Nope, me too
This has to be one of the most interesting channels on RUclips.
It's my new favourite. I watch videos everyday.
Like fr i keep coming back
Cannot stop watching! 🤭
This abyssal void is fascinating me !
It truly is breathtaking.
Nelson said " I think I will put this down and have a Joint." lol!
Nelson Sullivan was way ahead of his time with his vlogs. A fascinating inside look into the NYC club scene of the late 80's. A shame he passed at such an early age.
Lahoma running around and laughing into the camera is a mood
I love her she’s a doll she my favorite
I love her too. Is she still around?
I wonder if Lahoma is from Oklahoma
Forrest Cain I asked Lady Bunny on Twitter and she told me Lahoma quit drag and is a editor for a wine magazine now. His male name is John Witherspoon
literally!! lmfaooo
Regardless of what we think of Nelson's friends and acquaintances in NY, these videos are a true picture of a facet of the life they led in the city, and how they responded to the camera.
This one offers a great insight into Alig's character. Both the awkward situation with the room and him running around telling everyone how empty Mars is. Everyone who wasn't there sure as hell wasn't at your party Michael.
Agree, it was super cringe. Lahoma's face in the room, lol...
Watching Nelson’s vids take me back to my 20’s and all the fun it was.
I can't stop watching these, so great.
As soon as I saw the video about Michael Alig being a murderer, I immediately thought, "I bet Nelson had footage of him in his vlog," and he ends up being the birthday boy in this video. Unreal. Well, at least Nelson didn't live to see what became of his friend or the death of the Club Kid scene. Rest in Peace to Angel Melendez.
No joke
I'm glad Nelson never saw the Towers come down to me, I think it would have broken his spirit
@Konga 5000 nope not really. He od’d yesterday
@Konga 5000 nope, he overdosed on dope and died xmas eve 2020.
Nelson admitted he was a "club Uncle"... God Bless Him always! And Christine!
Yes! I also miss Christine! Her art. Her staircase. Her accent. Her everything! ❤
@@martevanderzee7440 yea I'm sure you do from what watching her on RUclips 💯
He was more like a observer than actual partner but then he was not older than most of them.
It's amazing that anyone found anything interesting in Michael Alig. He seems so terribly ordinary
That's the thing; he was. They all are. They knew it, hence the fantasy escapism. Disco in the 70s was the same thing.
I am at home cooking dinner and videos from 30yrs ago is all I wanna see... Nelson u r u cool !
I remember when I was 13 I was hanging out with a much older crew and they used to sneak me into the world and the tunnel of course Limelight and red zone I'll never forget the day that the twins found out how old I was and they will all over me saying OMG she's so pretty she's beautiful she's so young I love her those were the days!!!!!!!!!!!!
Haha yeahhhh whoopah And I’m the crown princess of blubbaraiahhh
@@martevanderzee7440 🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱 you are tired and washed up honey don't comment on what you don't know sweetie
Nelson was the only likeable guy in that whole NY scene back in the day RIP
Why?
I wish all of Nelson's videos were available. These are great
What's missing?
Theres close to 600 tapes. If I could find them on a dvd set collection I would love to own it.
@@JB-zo7ln I thought they were given to a university? NYU perhaps? The Retro Room channel has some info on where those tapes ended up.
@@kekwayblaze3176 I know that Dick Richards was the one uploading 5ninthavenueproject before he died. World of Wonder also had access to the videos at one time too, but I think they are now archived in the NYU library like you said. And Retro room is a pretty good source for facts so if he said it I wouldn't doubt they are there.
@@JB-zo7ln I wish someone would get definitive word on what happened to reportedly hundreds of hours of these home movies Nelson made, like are they all archived in the NYU library now never to see public release.
I swear look at any video from the late 80’s early 90’s and Michael Musto is there. And then of course later he would trash all these people like he was never part of it.
Im not a fan of Michael Musto. He really acts like he is better than all of them when he was just as much a part of the scene at the time.
it was his JOB to be there. He was a nightlife columnist. How do you expect him to get stories to write about without actually being at these events? Go back and watch the Geraldo videos with all the club kids, it was obvious that Michael Musto was nothing like the rest of the them, and was usually the only one who could form a complete sentence. I think him and Nelson were good friends, but obviously Nelson wasn't outrageous like the club kids either.
He trashes it because of what it eventually became
Exactly
@@willcourtneyspanish he was not of good friend of Nelson ! When Nelson died he said in an interview that Nelson was nothing and had nothing special without his camera.
Have a coupon
most of these peoples attitudes were just so ugly it made them ugly..They seem very all about their selfs and didn't care for each other really.Always trying to out do the other be more over the top and out landish.Just seem cold and cruel to each other.Nelson was only one besides Ru who acted like they had some class and carfed for others..Miss you nelson wish you were still with us.Ty for these videos they are pure gold.
The 80s were very much about individualism, greed, success at any price, and judging by appearance rather than merit or values. It wasn't just these people. Read Bret Easton Ellis or watch 80s films. It was a wonderful time to be a child which I was but a cutthroat time in business.
5:28 don't dump the drugs fool, it's only Nelson.
none looks genuinely happy... just empty
necessitousfox julie Jules is SMOKIN!!!!
This is when I started “clubbing” and you’re right. Everyone just trying to be cool & look like they belonged.
Nail on the head
I dont agree with that I think a lot of them look a lot more happy than most of the people in clubs today
@@perry5509 I agree. They at least lived in the moment back then. No smartphones or social media distractions.
That blonde girl Nelson gave the bracelet to is so damn good lookin'! WOW!
That's Julie Jewels, she used to hang out with Michael Alig a lot.
The most fabulous thing about the party. All she had to do was stand there 😍
She is now married to very, very rich Arab and doesn’t want to be known as Miss Jewel
@@martevanderzee7440 he didn't ask what she wanted to be known as 🥱
So sad Nelson had to pass away so young. I'm sure in this era of posting, he would have a lot to share. RIP.
I wish he was still with us. What an amazing kind hearted soul.
it's so cool to see such a mixture of the classes of people. I was just thinking how I could never hang with people like this. How I am probably too low-class for their taste. Then Brandywine says she is working at Wendy's . I remember how she seemed to be one of the popular ones in the videos. That made me feel a lot better. Idk why I am sharing that I just felt moved by it. It's cool that so many different kinds of people hung together with no judgment.
You cant tell that the majority of them are NYC reject trash who probably shopped at goodwill?
whocares anymore he ate them with pleasure
Most but not all of the people in this video went on to tragedies. Murderers, drugs, mental illness, death at early ages, etc. Whether someone works at Wendy's or Wall Street it is sad to see this kind of self destructive behavior.
In any big city-- it was VERY common to see a "mixed bag" of people w/ different careers ( there was ALWAYS one guy / girl that was ALWAYS unemployed and looking, as well as "boring office cube jobs" . I knew people that were doormen in apartment buildings , people that worked in the TV and Movie costume industry, and people who worked for United Cerebal Palsy . So yeah- REAL mixed bag. I was the perpetual "starving artist" even though I did see some shiny bits of success over the years) . @@spontina
This guy was vlogging way before it was cool to vlog
He was a man ahead of his time
Nelson proved to be too good and way ahead of his time, even Lady Bunny was annoying..
This was before the scene got dark.
But the darkness had already arrived. You can see it in the way the people act. Vacuous and pretentious.
It's funny to see how Michael was/carried himself before drugs and after. You can totally see the flip in eyes/demeanor and way more narcissism. Great content from Nelson, thank you for your tapes!! I know he's watching from where ever he is!
Was this post drugs or before?
Fuschia @ 2:08 reminds me of Juliette Lewis
I legit thought it was her for a few seconds!
I thought the same.
Like, if juliette Lewis and sandra bernhardt had a baby...
I think shes hot
5:00
Bunny: Keep that thing (camera) away from me unless you want a drink on it.
Lahoma: Bunny don't pour that on him...Bunny that's Nelson!
ROTFL~ omg!
It's rare to see Keoki in these videos @1:43 yet here he is wearing his own t-shirt! I wish there were more videos of Keoki when he was part of the Club Kids scene starting out his DJ career.
Is it just me or do some of these parties seem exceptionally tame?
Everyone looks so fashionable and cool and alive!
imagine if nelson had lived long enough for angles murder, i cant imagine the footage we would've got DAMMMMIT
So right.
I think I’ll put this down and have a joint 💃🏼 omg I love you Nelson !
‘Bonnie don’t pour that on him! That’s Nelson’s!’ 😂😂😂😂 she seemed so sweet!
*Bunny -as in Lady Bunny the drag queen :) x
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WTF. I had no idea Nelson was dead… he’s been dead for 30+ years, he was such a creative soul, may he R.I.P
"I hear Mars is empty tonight"
"Is it?"
"Yeah!"
"You're probably you're right.. who cares!"
Brandywine was always a riot! that voice!
I’m a club parent .. I hear that nelson !
I cant stand Michael Musto in any video.
He's a prick.
Nobody can 🤦🏻♀️
He thought he was the shit but really, he was just shit lol
I kinda adore him
Even his name annoys me.
I wish I had an opportunity to talk to Nelson Sullivan. He'll, I wish I could have a conversation with Michael Alig as well. Neither can be done now. I would really like to sit down and talk to someone from this scene over a cup of coffee. So many questions.
Could anyone imagine working at Wendy’s In NYC and finding out your trainer is a cross dressing Club Kid at night. Lol
I wondered that very same thought. For some reason I feel like he didn't hide it though. Maybe he didn't wear the makeup and wigs to work, but he probably was happy to tell people who he was. That's my guess.
It's funny how you could say that into a camera and feel pretty sure that your manager will never see it. lol
@@seanfrank32 ?
@@minenotyours212 Because there was no internet in 1989
*SCREAMS IN EAR* I'M THE NEW TRAINING MANAGER AT THE WENDY'S AT EAST 42ND STREET HERE LET ME GIVE YOU A COUPON. I live for slice of life pieces of history.
People were a lot more comfortable in front of a camera back then cause it wasn't being uploaded to thousands on social media... at least not for another 30 years lol
How come nobody talk about or brings up Nelson in recent videos of Michael or James ect.
I think Nelson died before the scene became dark and creepy.
Ok, I found a video where James St James is interviewing RuPaul, who brings up Dick Richards & Nelson (as two of his mentors) at about 3:05 or 3:10. Ru pays lovely compliments to both men & credits them with helping him become who he is as a gay man. If what you're looking for is "proof," here ya go! ruclips.net/video/y1-FAw7eSCA/видео.html
Sasha Paige Rupaul often talks about Nelson. He apparently lived in Nelson’s house after he passed.
@@KissMyBiscuits thanks for posting! It was great to see Ru talk about Nelson
Lahoma seems like so much fun, and such a sweet soul
Michael is pompus, but charming. At 4:02 Lahoma makes a little noise about the yellow tables which sets Michael off on one of his "look at me, I need attention" moments. He was always needing to be the center of attention, even when he was showing off the new room he designed. Heaven forbid the room get all the attention, Michael is there... he should be getting the attention: enter the "all eyes on me" comment of "you don't like the room", "It's beautiful.", "Yeah, whatever." ALL EYES ON ME!
Pompous, not at all charming. He had inherited money, and if not he would have nothing.
I love all of Nelson's Film footage but I don't know if it's the Camera work or the memories of the 80s I have but I always feel nauseous watching....... LOL. Party days and hang overs XXXX
they were a mess
This is from 30 years ago
Thanks for pointing that out.... I already felt old just watching it! 😅😅😘
Thank you, Nelson, for this view into a time that predates me, or at least predates me in a time that I could’ve enjoyed it. Wow. Nostalgia for a time I never experienced..
It's so weird how old and yet how contemporary it feels.
Weird that nobody has much money but they ALL live right in NYC ! @@KarlSnarks
@@LannieLord Hahaha yeah that too XD
Thank goodness for this man.
Awe! James is too cute! RIP Nelson ❤️❤️
Alig never really liked Nelson. He said it several times. You can tell from his body language etc anyway in the videos. He never talks to Nelson & when ever he’s around Michael will start whispering to his mom or Keoki etc. Alig purposely didn’t invite him to the party yet he shows up anyway 😆 🤦♂️
That bar looks dead. I would have took off lol
Nelson is a hero for these recordings
It’s Lahoma’s random laughing for me 😭.
Coupons for Wendy’s from Brandi lol 😂 love it
1.00 off was pretty good back then too lol
Look at me! Look at me! I need attention! Look at me!
Damn, homie is sporting a Joker haircut loooooooong before it was Joker ~ 2:20
The Killing Joke came out in 1988
Nelson was a amazing guy kinda sad when I watch these videos most of the people he met and was freinds with a few of them died just after him.
Musto was such a wannabe
A time and a place I wish I could've experienced.
Anyone else hate 75% of Nelson's friends ? 7:13 PUKE
I heard Mars was empty that night
" I'm a club uncle", Nelson😂😂😂
NYC during the 70s 80s and 90s was such an interesting, creative, dirty, grimy, dangerous and fun time. But to watch some of these people and not see the writing on the wall that this scene wasn't gonna end well was obvious. Of course hindsight is 20/20 but you can clearly see this wouldn't end well. I don't think anyone thought it would end the way it actually did. But whether it was the drugs or a suicide or the FEDS going after Gatien, you could see where it was headed
Lahoma is so cute at 6:00. This is a treasure.
LITTLE OLD NEW YORK
Lahoma laughing is the best part of this video 😂
I wonder if she is still the manager of Wendy's today ?
lmao have a coupon... have a coupon
That whole gay shtick seems exhausting. I wouldn’t have the energy for it.
Seriously. So much drama so little action.
Good to see Nelson in front of the camera.
Our time machine 👍👍❤
And in the future we saw what Michael had become. Surreal times. At least Freeze got his life together these days.
Is Brandy wine really Gerry Vasco?
They are playing ACID HOUSE
dead eyes.
Jajajaja lahoma running around laughing 😂 bumping in to everyone is priceless 😆😆🤣🤣
Aw keoke was a cutie
Lady Bunny was so pretty and girly looking when in drag, I never understood why he hated being on camera? It's weird, because his voice didn't really fit back then, but now it does. IMO
Is Angel in any of Nelson’s videos?
What a snob Alig could be
Love the acid house music
Doesnt look there is an amazing amount of people at that party tbh...
Was that Debi Mazar?
This is the party that Nelson was obsessing over like a child cause he wasn’t invited. 🤦♂️ He made several videos crying about the fact he wasn’t invited.
Nelson seemed like the sweetest and best guy! He passed away too soon 😢
ugh michael musto said nobody saw it so he thinks he's cool.
I wonder if they all look back on these videos and see the try-hards that they were.
The all talk the same? why is that?
theyre gay
What is the track
Nelson looks a lot like Sturgill Simpson to me. He seemed like a really decent man.
Wild to see Alig so young
Everyone is in costume!
I’m missed that part about Black people in the face all night” ?
4:12😳
I love BRANDI WINE!