FASTEST WAY TO SAND PRIMER FOR SHOW CAR FINISH
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- Опубликовано: 28 фев 2021
- Today we're going to spray guide coat over the primer and show how to sand it off using an electric 6" D/A with 220 grit. We will demonstrate and go over the products to use and the grits of sandpaper that will give you a finish that is ready to paint 🔥 www.hiltzautoco.com
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Been in the industry of restorations for almost 40 years now. Good technique. Everyone does it a little bit different, but the basic principles are the same. Stay blessed, God willing sir.
Now this guy. This guy right here. Is the man i want to be taught by.
No mask, for a quick show sanding...im sure he wears one when it gets foggy in there.
No messing about.
Time saving.
Best finish.
No BS.
Ridiculous metaphors.
Random shouting.
He's an absolute legend!
The guy who taught me how to plaster was very similar. Never forgot the man. Owe him everything.
I find it hilarious that some guy on his couch is questioning how you do what you do...I have bean painting cars for 20 years now. When I watch you I see a guy who knows exactly what he is doing love your work brotha keep hammering!!!!
Jolene does a fantastic job filming. She knows when to get in close which makes it easier to understand what's being discussed.
I see some people saying no but all car truck you done be out this world giving all tricks up for free thanks for video on here love channel
I like learning new ways to do something.Chad makes it all look simple.Jolene is always in the right place so we can see.
I understand what you mean about the different grit paper being a wood floor sander. You can over sand and not even be cutting the wood. Very informative guys. Watched the whole build
Chad you have the right attitude working on the Jag. I think so many over thing and never get anything done on their projects, I'm one of them..
Wow. I painted my first car and went through all the sanding steps and spent a loooong time. Wish I had seen this video before as I would’ve loved to save some time and work.
Got it.... Guide coat shows the imperfections and allows you to smooth better.... Dude you are awesome!!!
I am getting to this stage on some old rusty Vw double cabs. I see your sanding logic. Will give it a try.. Thanks for your time.
Love watching your videos. I'm getting ready to do my own body work for the first time and you make me feel comfortable that I won't completely mess this up.
It's always great going back in time to see the stages of the build.
Sure wish I would of had someone like you to show me when I was in my twenties . It would have saved me a lot of money and time . Your a great teacher and someone for young people to look up to.
I agree, I could have built a lot more cars. Eye opening and motivating.
It's a pleasure watching you work my friend, you're a true artist and have produced some beautiful machines.
I am a fan of Bad Chad. I have watch all his episodes and can't wait till the next one comes out. His imagination has created some of the coolest cars I have ever seen. This video is very educational for those who are getting into bodywork. Thanks Bad Chad!
36 years doing body and paint . You may be faster than me skipping your sanding a fine step . But my job will look better 20 years down the road. I've always finished in 180 primed then sand 320. My scratches will never come through yours will.
Thanks for the video. You are awesome taking time to show your technique for fastest way to do body work. I am starting to restore my 1948 chevy five window pickup again. My dad and me built it together when I was in High School in 1995. I did it the harder way fine sanded with 220 and 320 before primer. I'm going to do it your way this time, save a lot of time and work.
Thanks for explaining the relationship between primer, filler and choice of sandpaper in a way that is easy to immediately understand ! I have done some body work on my projects and realize I always have done it wrong. Polishing instead of straightening and getting those waves you mentioned. Thanks Chad !
I will admit , your videos is most educational. You don’t do short cuts. Very great job
When I got my Gamora it was a parts car and everyone said it was going to be a money pit and was junk. I followed you and used G2 and my $375 Urechem kit driveway paint turned out great. Thank you!
High build primer is a god send when you're deadline becomes reality.. I love my Flexi sander for curvy surfaces
Great Lesson and Advice. Love The Progress on A Brilliant Project👍👍👍
We love you, Chad. So please, put a mask on !
I've done that for years and just looking at you doing that, dust is coming out my computer screen.
Jolene wants two things : a marvelous car AND a marvelous Chad. Both of them. And for a long time.
I don't mean to be a dickhead here but do you think he can talk with a mask on and video it and have you understand what he is saying . I am sure he uses one when not trying to talk to people on a video . I have a RUclips channel to and I have tryed it it doesn't work
If I had it to do again I would use a mask...save your lungs
Well, I think she’s still working on it. Time goes by fast
Shops that I have worked at required me to finish the filler with 120-150g before the primer. So I would simply guide coat the filler and DA it till the guide coat is all gone. Painters couldn't believe how straight my bodywork was after finishing with a DA. You are absolutely correct about blocking filler w 150-220g. Paper clogs and won't sand evenly.
Hey Chad and Jolene......Big fan Seattle! Saw the repeat on Discover Channel of the Pinto build. I watched when it first aired and watched both episodes again!! Great stuff....
RETIRED NOW, BUT HAVE BEEN USEING 80 GRIT MYSELF AND GREAT RESULTS , GREAT WORK AND IDEAS , THANKS
Great job so far. What a beautiful car you're building !
Great thinking Chad good old fashioned Canadian engineering! Thanks for the sanding lesson
Great to see that somebody else uses a 6" da and a 8" da for body work and blocking primer. I even use my 6"da to initially block my clearcoat.
Everything Chad says makes so much sense. Very good teacher and explainer
fantastic video as always
I love your show and how your mind works when creating something unusual. Nice that joline is by your side. Keep doing it.
i've done this for many years and loved this work.... totally agree about 40-80 grid is able to make it straight, but i allways go with sanding blocks instead of a DA sander if it really has to be straight.... the big advantage of this car is that it had no flat surfaces maybe the doorpanel, but that's the only panel that is really flat, a curved surfase is very forgiving for minor imperfections
priming after 80 grid works really well especially when you give it a good cure..
nice job
You show me a lot i love your honesty and work ty for all the time you use to show us how to doit
Primer filler amen, was waiting for this episode and for you to school the naysayers, in 1977 we were using primer filler to go over filler in the UK body shop I worked in and it saved the day every time. They got better over the years obs but so pleased to see this episode :)
We still use polyester primer on show cars. These techniques he is using are why he works for himself. Any shop would laugh at him.
I'm glad they asked, I learn more with a little antagonism, My Dad was a Marine. lol Good stuff Bad Chad.
Whenever I see Chad, I feel inspired.
Smart idea on the sanding. I'm going to try that Feather Fill.
it is a pleasure watching and listing to you
Very interesting didn’t understand glide coat but I do now I’ll try that next time thanks so much
Bad chad,
Thank you for your channel and showing folks what really goes into a restoration. When people haven’t done this they have no clue.
Another great video. Thanks for sharing
Another awesome video 👍👍
Fussy pedantic perfectionist grand master of body work , bloody enjoyed every minute.
I learned more on this one video than years of watching and wasting time on sanding blocking and painting! Thank you sir! You are a gentleman and a true craftsman!
Great work man..many patients..
thanks for the vid chad..very good and educational
Great explanation on the 40 80 paper grip man!!!! I have a 1971 VW Bus that I will subscribe and follow your advise once I start my Peral two tone paint job soon... Cheers man Thanks for the awesome video and WOW that car looks amazing I cannot wait to see the finish product...Cheers man stay safe...
I did a truck 14 years ago same way as him. Wet sand polish finish looked perfect. Once it got out in the sun a year or so the scratches started appearing think from different materials shrinking at different rates.
That is a work of art .
When that primer shrinks you’ll see those 80 grit scratches. I did auto body for 15 years. I been out of it for about 10 years. I used urethane primers that weren’t supposed to shrink but they did. No short cuts. I always sanded to 150-180 before priming
polyester primer
That's WHY you let it SIT and "gas out" 😏 unless "in and out/collision work". Then yeah, 150/180 is a near must before ANY kinda primer. But yeah, IT IS RESTORATION....USE 120/150/180 ta BLOCK YOUR 1ST (or 2nd stage) of PRIMER 💪. Heck, I did MOST my BLACK 55 CHEVY show car with 40 grit and urethane primer 1st stage 😏...BUT? I let that sh.t SIT......"SIT" 😎
its still in primer now so i think it will fine now it done shrinking
the older type primer will shrink but that poly and catalyst k2 shit don't shrink for decades
Yep, another old schooler here. Clean in up with 180, get your 80 grits and pinholes there.Feather fill can fill little waves too. Never go past 180 after polyester which includes filler and glaze. First cut the feather fill with 180 and guide coat again if you step down, Wet it again with 2k every time you cut through. Keep going like that without cheating out any low spots and you'll have a straight car when it goes in the booth.
I'm looking forward to the end result.🥰❤
Thanks Chad and Jolene! Cheers 🍻
I'm a body tech watch your show love your work bro and you are old school and it works don't change my man
Very nice work!!!👍👍👍
Really like he's talking as he doing the work explaining what he is doing and where mistakes can and will happen I am doing a 1958 chevy fleet side long bed hope full to get it done this summer its my first build complet tear down
I remember back in the day when all it was lead and lacquer primer and lacquer glaze . I will say now the materials are like working with cement to clay like in the old days and their are a lot of different types of materials that if you don’t know what the uses or apply it at the right stage can be a disaster in the overall system and longevity of the restoration
We called it over spraying not guide coatings. But we were a small hot rod shop. Sure miss it. Keep up the good work cant wait to see that beautiful thing done the right way and looks like your doing it. Much love from one car guy to another. Or one car brother to another. And i only knew how to use a DA not a block. Just what i was taught with. Just have to be careful to not let your fingers get hit by that weight on it lol only takes a few times of losing your finger nail to learn lol
Thanks Chad for showing this you sure are right
Looking Bloody Good Chad...Good on you mate!!!
I always love listening to you Chad! Thank you for everything! Like always Jolene, great video!
With a hearty Yee Haw & screeching Waa Hoo in her rusty crusty truck, with her faithful Indian companion CROWBAR at her side - The Lone Stranger rattles and rumbles in a cloud of flying debris across Nova Scotia to get in place for the Chad & Jolene daily shindig.
You're a nut. Lol
Chad I really appreciate the way you break down the steps and the reason why you do it how you do it. Also love your creative mind. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
Amazing! What a work of art! Pure genius!
Great Video! Thank you
I agree the method is fast, and what you say about course paper is what cuts strait. But I'd go to from 80 to 120 before primer. Just to make sure sand 80 grit sand scratches dont shrink back over time. Love the content Chad great work.
Agreed..
agreed. 40 & 80 can, & do shrink, & it shows later after the sun hits it. Shrinkage demons.
YES sir, guys on the shrinkage stuff... THAT'S WHY it's SOOO IMPORTANT that you LET THE SH.T SIT....😏 (Give it time to GAS OUT ect.) But YES! IF you don't have AT LEAST A WEEK to let sit? 120 grit IS a GREAT step before high build anyways. 👍 And...? IF you DON'T have at LEAST a week or so to let the panel sit before blocking? Then they SHOULDN'T BE DOING "Auto Body RESTORATION" ANYWAYS! 😒 ALL that "hurry up crap" is just NUTHIN but "Laugh/Smile NOW but Cry LATER"......😎
@@jamescon55 that G2 feather fill is virtually liquid glaze. Like, you said, give it time to cure and all is fine. I only use it on the gnarliest of bodies, but I use it relatively often.
@@aamantium1 Evercoat "polyester primers" has stepped up their line of products in the last decade for sure. I still prefer the Evercoat Super Build 4-1 polyester line vs. ANY that "Featherfill" line. It's waaay more user friendly and you can mix-up small amounts for spot priming and waaay longer pot life time for actual SPRAYING.
Big help!!! Than you!
Chingon maestro mucha esperiencia👍
Congratulations on the 60k Chad & Jolene! Another great episode!
Now you can start block sanding by hand, D A only good on flat surface!
I use to say that until seeing Chad’s results. It’s as good as anyone does using flex blocks by hand.
I think is good with single stage
Interesting explanations
Really enjoy Brad. Cheers. Mike in Oz
Love the electric DA Chad! I use the same, for the same reasons you do. I like Makita though. Keep up the great work!
What brand is that
Been using feather fill since since 1975. When it hit the market they advertised it to go over 40 grit no problem. Went from bare bondo to paint with a team and best paint in 3 days using feather fill
1975 wow didn't know it was around that long. Good stuff ! 😉
I used to use the fill n sand lacquer. The polyester is way better.
You are absolutely correct.
If you call 2k primer company's they will tell you 2k primers can fill 80 grit scratches. 36, 80, prime 180, 400 paint.
Chad, you are an artist. Congratulations and thank you for sharing your art and knowledge with us. Best regards and stay healthy.
Bro, I dig the part about tilting the sander. I have constant arguments with my guys. I believe in flat all the way to 1500 grit
as always...great
Just watched this video , nice work mate , well informative , and is that a cattle dog 🐶, 🤘🤘
Gr8 work.. 👌👍🏼
Thanks for ur tips n tricks ! It takes alot of hours to build a car so every tips is like gold . thanks!
Chad you are preaching….. I am converted to your church. Great job!
Would be intresting to see that car few months after its been painted. I have been bodyman/painter for 22 years and seen many cars when people used wrong grit. I agree with Chad that 80 grit will make is straight, but ALWAYS take finer grit 220-240 or 320 BEFORE put primer on. None of excisting primer products on market will work to cover 80 or even 120 grit....It will look great first few days or weeks but it will shrink and show that eventually.
Not if heat treated.. you will see any prob before hand and he will obvioisly fix it.. I do get what your saying but look at the customs he has done already....pretty sure he would of corrected that at this point....but like Chad says always...it might not be the way you like it but it's how he likes it... that's why you do it your way and let him do his
Also these are custom builds not factory perfected...there a lil more loved due to work...if your right hey ...I'll give ya that ..just saying he knows by now what to do an what not I'm sure...hes got super clean builds for most anyone in this labe of fab work..not just body paint garage
Would be nice if you spelled interesting proper
@@ME-zp9co yeah sorry if my very disturbing misspelling destroyed your day. get a life dude
@@jockejohansson5957 yeah you don't even know me and you ruined my life with your spelling error get with the program man
looking good
Thanks Chad and Jolene I'm at guide coat stage with my beetle had the exact same argument about sanding grit with my painter ending up sanding to 400 alot of work will be spraying the car in a few weeks a few tips would come in handy 👍
good sound principles.
I am kicking myself for going down to 240. Now I am fighting the waves. Thanks for show how simple and fast it can be.
I use 80 on lightweight bog then 150 just to take the 80 scratches out then prime. 240 block primer and depending on the top coat da 400 2k 500 clear over base. Take your time on the 80 and just knock off the top with 150. If you know what I'm saying
Then your waves were always there. 220 is just to remove scratches, that's all. It takes like an hour to run over the car after using 80 with 180 and then again with 220 because all your doing or supposed to be doing with 180 and 220 is removing scratches, that's it. If your fighting waves, you need to sand the car off, get the filler and the 40 grit back out because you weren't done with those yet.
Awesome PEPSI tool bin !
thanks for advice great job gonna pull out electric DA
I have to admit the 40/80 prime technique is way faster. It makes perfect sense to me. I worked on my bug forever trying to straighten it out. I’d always end up sanding my primer all the way back off for the first coat but I’m just a novice diy guy. I’m horrible at trying to perfect filler before I prime. That primer is amazing how much it fills and doesn’t go through
You cool! A hello from germany!!!!
you are right on
Love the detail, inculding specific materials. Your are a good teacher, and a good teamwork. I need to paint a car now !
Thanks!
i like you talking about what your working on . Chad, you should be a body shop school teacher.
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THIS IS BY FAR THE BEST AUTOMOTIVE RUclips CHANNEL OUT THERE. CHAD, YOU ARE AN ABSOLUTE GENIUS. JOLENE IS SO SMART TO BE DOCUMENTING YOUR LIFE AS YOU WILL BE KNOWN AS THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME. I CAN'T THANK YOU BOTH ENOUGH FOR THE DAILY INSPIRATION. YOU GUYS ARE THE REAL DEAL.
Awesome
Love what you do Chad and Jolene this car is going to be beautiful because you’re doing it your way!!
In the house fending my way to the front row..