I've said it before, but I love how Ed went from being one of the simplest characters to one with a lot of depth now. This is easily the superior version of him from a gameplay design perspective.
people can balk at him getting in so quick over fan favorites and third strike goobers but i think this sort of gameplay redemption really makes up for it. getting a really interesting second pass and making him a character worth playing past a mash special definitely means more to me than like, necro getting in (and i love necro with my whole heart it is CRIMINAL he only got to brew a potion last game)
@neappl As people have said in comments and in the video, he was pretty boring before. Of course people weren't going to like him coming back over SO MANY characters people actually want. No 3rd Strike characters but HE got in? It's pretty easy to see why people were hating, if you actually sit and think
I love Ed's animations. He might actually turn into my submain once Akuma comes out and everyone switches hype (I know I won't play Akuma I'm not really into traditional shotos anymore)
@@yosho_sussy he was trying to figure out in the video what combos into what, so this was info on that. You aren't wrong, but that doesn't change that it combos with drive rush
The properties of his punches and kicks feel so backwards, I wonder if it would be easier to learn Ed by swapping your punch and kick buttons in your button config, lol.
@@NightmareJames Swap the inputs back to normal? Like, you answered your own question bro. All you'd be doing is swap MK with MP, and HK with HP unless you wanna change the jab/short too.
I don't think it's that backwards aside from his crouching punches being his lows. However his kick buttons are very consistently pokes you're meant to throw out in neutral.
I watched your Ed video and felt like my time to finally climb through plat on modern juri was here, but I actually went from plat 1 to Gold 3. The only non Ed matches I got were a literal mirror juri down to the costume and color, and a Marisa that I destroyed on the runback. Ed is causing serious setbacks to my quest to take modern juri and classic Aki from rookie to master.
@@actuallynotsteveif you want some coaching i can prob help yiu a bit i got a friend to whom im teaching juri (i got 3 soon to be 5 characters in master juri isn't one of them but im still pretty good with her) if you want to
@@bigjc5546 yeah that'd be awesome, I play modern juri but am an arcade kid from the 90s fwiw, she just seems to have reliable tools for everything. I've got a really good understanding of stuff like frame data and whatnot, but need to get better at holding back a bit and playing better neutral. My tag on SF6 on Steam is GoodPubFeed, or just SpaggySteve on Steam itself. I play against and watch Big Nasty Kail when he's live and I have time, but I'd be super down to train against somebody specific!
I just saw Brain_F using Ed in rank and he loves using the psycho snatcher move. Not even the ex version. Also, MC Mura was comparing ex snatcher to SFV Poison's ex heart raid.
I think I kidna get the idea behid Ed - trap opponent with pluses and fish for counter hits But idk, aside of counter hits, even with full resources, it feels like he needs to press a million buttons just to get damage of light spd
i still don't get why they chose to make foward + punch from the sway every other character has a normal input from a run, but not ed you have to delay for a different input but the delay is not consistent
@@bigjc5546the late version doesn't extend combos well when they're in a juggle already. It's a mainly a launcher, for the good stuff in juggles u have the early version. On the corner it doesn't really matter bc the thing that makes the late version bad at juggling is that it sends the opponent too far, and that can't happen on the corner XD
I'm gonna try best to not go crazy about the sweeps, because 1) 0:50 in, and 2) "to each their own intro to fighters", but we cant forget Ed got his moves from homeboy Boxer-- that can't go unchecked. Even Nessa's 3B, --like that shit was 3rd strike Chun with no gloves on. Crouching Roundhouse;Hidden sweep lore, everyone.
1:28 yeah, I agree. Those two things are kind of weird, crouch heavy punch should have stayed the normal anti air and the flickers seem kind of reversed when crouched.
I have a formula chart theory checklist for showing if characters have potential for top tier status. Do they have these qualities: a projectile, a true anti air, easy to use, safe overall moveset, great mobility, and supers with multiple uses. Usually this hasn't failed me. Ed checks all of these except "Probably" easy to use. I think it's subjective at that point.
I'm glad Ed is definitely cooler and has a better kit, I tried him out a few times but I couldn't really get into how he plays. It's early days for sure but I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up being pretty weak, it seems he struggles to open up without whiff punishing, once people learn the tricks and frame traps he might be incredibly hard to use at high level
@@DrSwazz My best firend's main is Akuma. Since Street Fighter Alpha days. He didn't even bother buying the game. I cn't wait to see what they do with Akuma's raging demon. Ed's super is sick. He's fun to fight against and I'm sure he's fun to play too
@@TekkLuthor Lol, can't blame him cause the starting roster was pretty small. I can't help but imagine Akuma's raging demon might be slightly nerfed in this game just given the OD system and how crucial drive meter is to SF6. A lot of mixes he got for free in SF5 will probably cost meter and/or be less free in 6.
I really think the command dash should be a motion imput My adhd brain already can comprehend his punch having kicks propeties and his kick been punches I dont know but in the previous games balrog and dudley kit were more intuitive even they punches were kicks
Honestly, I didn't think I was going to like him so much that I want to main him. I thought I was gonna suffer with Ryu until C.Viper. (lol, yeah right- Viper being added to SF6 LOL) Ryu buffs are really good, but Ed reflects me more as a person/player and I love that he really *appears* like a "character loyalist" sort of investment is required for top-level play as we know. Need to mess with AKI changes aside from Ryu changes, but I'm too busy with the allure of Ed for now. This is a huge breath of life into SF6, game was getting so stale that I haven't cared about the last ~3 battle passes.
A little sad that charged st.hp is basically useless as an anti fireball tool. What's the point of even making it like that when it takes a whole year to charge and gets beaten by any multi hitting projectile.
@nymous It's can be okay in burnout but it's easily jumped and punished even in burnout. It's not a particularly good move. It was much better in 5 at least the charged version. Regular st.hp is a god button.
The extra F+Punch after his Kill Rush just doesn’t compute in my tiny little brain. Feels an unnecessary complication. I do think he’s a cool character , though not as cool as AKI of course.
as a scrub i am super dissapointed with the changes, i like SF but never was a fan of the control scheme, Ed with modern feels just as hard as with classic, really unfortunate... guess Im sticking with zangief
Unless something happens, Ryu has ZERO answers against Ed. I've been playing many MASTER rank Ed Japanese players using Ryu and each and every time I fight them, I get something rocked and ruled over nearly each and every time. I'm sorry to say but if Capcom don't do anything for Ryu soon then he will be out of the SF6 runnings (yes, against Ed, Ryu's Hashogeki buffs are NOT enough and I knew they wouldn't be enough too). I cannot believe Capcom didn't test Ryu against Ed properly Ed completely has Ryu beat in FRAMES, all thanks to 3 frames of animations that slaughters Ryu. If anyone disagree then please, PROVE IT. Show me Ryu beating a Japanese MASTER RANK Ed "consistently" because I tell you what, the way most Japanese are using him are different from the way EndingWalker, SnakeEyes and other people in the west has been using him. No. Do not use Ken or any other character, just use Ryu against a Japanese Master Rank players that use Ed. BroSki, any thoughts?
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Im always waiting to one capybara punch the other in the intro lmao
I've said it before, but I love how Ed went from being one of the simplest characters to one with a lot of depth now. This is easily the superior version of him from a gameplay design perspective.
I've never read or heard you say that before
@@Taziodneither have I. I don't believe he has said that before
Rashid syndrome
Homie took a Broski tweet and added "I've said it before"
Yeah I was #1 Ed hater but capcom actually did it.. he’s so fun
I injured myself while this video was playing, and your pleasant voice helped me calm down. Thanks broski!
Ed really went from the dummy character in 5, to the most unique one in 6.
Take a shot every time Broski calls an Ed move weird.
this is just a straight up death sentence
Directions unclear, being rushed on the hospital for alcohol poisoning 🫠
people can balk at him getting in so quick over fan favorites and third strike goobers but i think this sort of gameplay redemption really makes up for it. getting a really interesting second pass and making him a character worth playing past a mash special definitely means more to me than like, necro getting in (and i love necro with my whole heart it is CRIMINAL he only got to brew a potion last game)
Its still crazy to think how upset people were that Ed was part of the roster off the bat, compared to how fascinated and excited people are now
You're only hearing the loudest people. The haters are probably still there, just being a bit quieter.
@neappl As people have said in comments and in the video, he was pretty boring before. Of course people weren't going to like him coming back over SO MANY characters people actually want. No 3rd Strike characters but HE got in? It's pretty easy to see why people were hating, if you actually sit and think
They basically did the impossible and not only made him interesting to play but also just cool as a character lol
@@ADreamingTraveler Thats not impossible. It's the new standard now.
I love Ed's animations. He might actually turn into my submain once Akuma comes out and everyone switches hype (I know I won't play Akuma I'm not really into traditional shotos anymore)
You're not hype about Ken 2.0???
I think so too. I main A.K.I., but I'm thinking of having Ed as a second/submain after I get used to his gameplay. That and when Akuma comes out.
With drive rush, his LP will combo into his MP HP target combo. Even more "123"
Bro Ed's jab is beyond terrible... Aint nobody using that
@@yosho_sussy he was trying to figure out in the video what combos into what, so this was info on that. You aren't wrong, but that doesn't change that it combos with drive rush
ed moving like he trained under dudley!!!
The properties of his punches and kicks feel so backwards, I wonder if it would be easier to learn Ed by swapping your punch and kick buttons in your button config, lol.
Interesting idea. I am screwing his inputs up badly. But what do I do when I switch back to JP?
@@NightmareJames Swap the inputs back to normal? Like, you answered your own question bro. All you'd be doing is swap MK with MP, and HK with HP unless you wanna change the jab/short too.
I don't think it's that backwards aside from his crouching punches being his lows. However his kick buttons are very consistently pokes you're meant to throw out in neutral.
@@A2ZOMG Do crouching punches not hit low usually? I only played SSFIV for 3DS and I never knew lol
@@Bladieblah they almost never do except in games that have only like 3 attack buttons like MvC3.
Thanks for the video, Broski. I now know that Ed is too complex for me.
Waiting for the return of EDding Walker to figure this character out
5:55 This is something that a lot of characters have in SF6. Hell, Jamie's chained sLK is practically a taunt.
commenting to reduce engagement, I'll even like and subscribe so no one else has to see this but me
hi broski, commenting for engagement
I watched your Ed video and felt like my time to finally climb through plat on modern juri was here, but I actually went from plat 1 to Gold 3.
The only non Ed matches I got were a literal mirror juri down to the costume and color, and a Marisa that I destroyed on the runback.
Ed is causing serious setbacks to my quest to take modern juri and classic Aki from rookie to master.
Damn man take a break before you lose more
@@Xvir it was last night, but yeah, I ignored some of my fundies
@@actuallynotsteveif you want some coaching i can prob help yiu a bit i got a friend to whom im teaching juri (i got 3 soon to be 5 characters in master juri isn't one of them but im still pretty good with her) if you want to
@@bigjc5546 yeah that'd be awesome, I play modern juri but am an arcade kid from the 90s fwiw, she just seems to have reliable tools for everything.
I've got a really good understanding of stuff like frame data and whatnot, but need to get better at holding back a bit and playing better neutral.
My tag on SF6 on Steam is GoodPubFeed, or just SpaggySteve on Steam itself.
I play against and watch Big Nasty Kail when he's live and I have time, but I'd be super down to train against somebody specific!
Jeez. You should watch your replays back if you aren't already
Correction: DR Crouch Light punch on rashid links into stand heavy punch
His Modern form is also good. He loses two crouch normals, three air normals, and nothing else.
looking forward to grinding ed more before i eventually shift back to playing dee jay because he's easier and likely much better
maybe not for much longer
For advanced trial 4 how in the hell do you get the drive rush to come out? Any tips?
I just saw Brain_F using Ed in rank and he loves using the psycho snatcher move. Not even the ex version.
Also, MC Mura was comparing ex snatcher to SFV Poison's ex heart raid.
I think I kidna get the idea behid Ed - trap opponent with pluses and fish for counter hits
But idk, aside of counter hits, even with full resources, it feels like he needs to press a million buttons just to get damage of light spd
the sthp od snatcher got diaphone to master so I'm glad you found it so quickly
i still don't get why they chose to make foward + punch from the sway
every other character has a normal input from a run, but not ed you have to delay for a different input but the delay is not consistent
Well, it’s not like the move is mandatory. It’s mainly used to optimize but, you don’t have to use it. At least from what I know.
@@DarriusWilder7thing is most of the time the delayed one isn't even the optimal route, only time its good is a hp combo in burnout
@@bigjc5546the late version doesn't extend combos well when they're in a juggle already. It's a mainly a launcher, for the good stuff in juggles u have the early version. On the corner it doesn't really matter bc the thing that makes the late version bad at juggling is that it sends the opponent too far, and that can't happen on the corner XD
What hurts me more than people calling Ed's Cobra Punch Marisa's Superman Punch at home is the chat calling Phalanx Gladius. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm gonna try best to not go crazy about the sweeps, because 1) 0:50 in, and 2) "to each their own intro to fighters", but we cant forget Ed got his moves from homeboy Boxer-- that can't go unchecked. Even Nessa's 3B, --like that shit was 3rd strike Chun with no gloves on. Crouching Roundhouse;Hidden sweep lore, everyone.
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1:28 yeah, I agree. Those two things are kind of weird, crouch heavy punch should have stayed the normal anti air and the flickers seem kind of reversed when crouched.
Love that everyone who wasn't hyped for this character or thought he'd be boring is now eating their words.
jump lk is a marvel style instant overhead
time to hustle!
Broski is one of 12 people who played KOF enough to know who Vanessa is. XD
The good ol SF6 meta, declare a new character as trash within 24 hours of release 😂
I have a formula chart theory checklist for showing if characters have potential for top tier status.
Do they have these qualities: a projectile, a true anti air, easy to use, safe overall moveset, great mobility, and supers with multiple uses.
Usually this hasn't failed me. Ed checks all of these except "Probably" easy to use. I think it's subjective at that point.
5:48 Me trying to learn charecters in Tekken 8.
I'm glad Ed is definitely cooler and has a better kit, I tried him out a few times but I couldn't really get into how he plays. It's early days for sure but I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up being pretty weak, it seems he struggles to open up without whiff punishing, once people learn the tricks and frame traps he might be incredibly hard to use at high level
hi broski, engaging for comments
Hi comments, engaging for broski
you can drive rush light into heavy
@Broski , Do you think you'll switch mains to Ed and drop Aki?
Woah, Ed is really weird
thank god im not the only one not really feeling the dash and forward punch inputs, especially with the latter timing
Jamie has 3 alternating stand LK
Sf6 has become Street Fighter Ed
It'll be Street Fighter Akuma soon enough
@@DrSwazz My best firend's main is Akuma. Since Street Fighter Alpha days. He didn't even bother buying the game. I cn't wait to see what they do with Akuma's raging demon. Ed's super is sick. He's fun to fight against and I'm sure he's fun to play too
@@TekkLuthor Lol, can't blame him cause the starting roster was pretty small. I can't help but imagine Akuma's raging demon might be slightly nerfed in this game just given the OD system and how crucial drive meter is to SF6. A lot of mixes he got for free in SF5 will probably cost meter and/or be less free in 6.
11:10 As a ken player I also thought I'd really enjoy Ed.. but shit he's way TOO weird to play, so far still seems somewhat fun but just not normal
I really think the command dash should be a motion imput
My adhd brain already can comprehend his punch having kicks propeties and his kick been punches
I dont know but in the previous games balrog and dudley kit were more intuitive even they punches were kicks
No, it's fine the way it is
Yooo ed
It took me half an hour to get Advanced 4 and an hour to get Advanced 5 lmao
Hi comments, broski for the engagement
I got a feeling Edd it's going to be pretty bad matchup for Aki since he can punish the chains and so easily
Honestly, I didn't think I was going to like him so much that I want to main him. I thought I was gonna suffer with Ryu until C.Viper. (lol, yeah right- Viper being added to SF6 LOL) Ryu buffs are really good, but Ed reflects me more as a person/player and I love that he really *appears* like a "character loyalist" sort of investment is required for top-level play as we know. Need to mess with AKI changes aside from Ryu changes, but I'm too busy with the allure of Ed for now. This is a huge breath of life into SF6, game was getting so stale that I haven't cared about the last ~3 battle passes.
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Man poor Ed, he dropped but everyone's attention was on the balance changes
Let's show edgy punch man some love
SF6 Ed is not growing on me so far. I want my kicks back
A little sad that charged st.hp is basically useless as an anti fireball tool. What's the point of even making it like that when it takes a whole year to charge and gets beaten by any multi hitting projectile.
Prob useful during opp burnout.
use it after vtrigger 1 son
@nymous It's can be okay in burnout but it's easily jumped and punished even in burnout. It's not a particularly good move. It was much better in 5 at least the charged version. Regular st.hp is a god button.
Yeah it should have 2 hits of armour and it should start midway through the startup
dont worry he will get buffed s2 and s3 just like in sf5 then he will be a monster in 2 years@@aledantih6524
Labbing gonna be no joke for this guy. Even labbong sim seemes more intuitive.
The extra F+Punch after his Kill Rush just doesn’t compute in my tiny little brain. Feels an unnecessary complication.
I do think he’s a cool character , though not as cool as AKI of course.
his st hk hit crouch
I know this is scruby to say but i wish his dp was a 1 button cuz his combos are hard ti do!
15:15 +4 But jumpable and DImpactable Trashy character bro
Ed level 2 is just rashid level 2 again no?
as a scrub i am super dissapointed with the changes, i like SF but never was a fan of the control scheme, Ed with modern feels just as hard as with classic, really unfortunate... guess Im sticking with zangief
Unless something happens, Ryu has ZERO answers against Ed. I've been playing many MASTER rank Ed Japanese players using Ryu and each and every time I fight them, I get something rocked and ruled over nearly each and every time. I'm sorry to say but if Capcom don't do anything for Ryu soon then he will be out of the SF6 runnings (yes, against Ed, Ryu's Hashogeki buffs are NOT enough and I knew they wouldn't be enough too). I cannot believe Capcom didn't test Ryu against Ed properly Ed completely has Ryu beat in FRAMES, all thanks to 3 frames of animations that slaughters Ryu.
If anyone disagree then please, PROVE IT. Show me Ryu beating a Japanese MASTER RANK Ed "consistently" because I tell you what, the way most Japanese are using him are different from the way EndingWalker, SnakeEyes and other people in the west has been using him. No. Do not use Ken or any other character, just use Ryu against a Japanese Master Rank players that use Ed. BroSki, any thoughts?
Too bad the game is still boring slop with janky movements
Ultra Trashy ED as a real player of SFV Ed's im so disapointed