@@thrallsofmetal this would make for great video content for you guys "greatest comeback in the history of metal" My votes go to Kreator - Violent Revolution. Exodus - Tempo of the Damned. Metallica - Death Magnetic (hate me all you want, I fuckin love that album...and St. Anger was one of the worst albums in history). I also agree w/ Carcass and AtG. Also you can't forget Necrophagist with "God, I Wish They Would Put That Fucking Album Out"....I'll probably think of more to add here later
Totally with you. Monotheist was an unbelieveable banger. 14 year old me did not expect it, and its pretty "Pre-Tryptikon" . Monotheist, Morbird Tlaes and To Mega Therion are the only Celtic Frost Album i still jam on a regular basis. "Your friends are over after a night at the bar?Ok, Morbid Tales!" "You just want to have real evil shit for Yourself?" "Monotheist!"
Into the Pandemonium masterpiece!! I love it. Some of the vocal textures "moaning" were a tribute to Rozz Williams from Christian Death. A lot of postpunk influence.
Facts. "Into the Pandemonium" is an utter masterpiece. Not only their best album, in my opinion, but also in my top ten of all time, any genre. I think the problem here is that the reviewers are listening with 2020 ears and not 1987 ears. This is a challenging listen in 2022, let alone when it was released, but context is king and the context is that this was released in 1987 when there was ZERO that sounded anything like this.
@@RichVader plus to understand Frost you have to kind of like other types of music , which they include in their sound. they are NOT like AC/DC or something straight up like that !!
My ranking: 1. Morbid Tales/Emperor's Return (I combined both since I have the CD where it's the combined version called Morbid Tales) 2. To Mega Therion 3. Into the Pandemonium 4. Monotheist 5. Vanity/Nemesis (so underrated yet so good) 6. Cold Lake
Necrotic Nick- As much as I don’t care for Diabolus I still have my copy. Pandemonium is a flat out weird listen though. Musically there’s some cool moments but the moaned vocals ruin a lot of it for me.
@@thrallsofmetal I absolutely understand. What made it easier for me to like it I think is the fact that Into was the very first Celtic Frost album I've heard. I hated Diabolus and I was already very much into black metal, so when a buddy told me he had a Celtic Frost album for his birthday and he doesn't like it... I smelled opportunity.
Necrotic Nick- I'm still surprised people still say it with the soft "c" here. I figured the name had been properly dropped here enough that would happen less.
Love Thralls discography rankings! Two suggestions of bands that I would love to see ranked by the Thralls lads! Voivod and Nile! I think both would be entertaining as all hell to rank and for us to watch!
Cool video I forgot about this band I think I will do a ranking video too. I would say unless the USA version of Emperor's Return is different to Europe, only Circle Of The Tyrants ended up on other albums. That EP rules for me.
I actually had the good fortune of catching them live when they were touring for Monotheist. To this day, it stands as one of the best shows I have ever been to in my life.
This was awesome!!! I have a soft spot for Cold Lake only because it was the first CF I ever heard. I had read a ton in zines about how sinister they were and couldn't wrap my mind around it. Later in life I heard the older stuff and understood, but still like the glam stuff for nostalgia.
I remember watching Circle of the Tyrants video on the Much Music Power Hour back in 85 here in Canada and the puffy pirate shirt (envisioning the episode from Seinfeld) that Dominic Steiner was wearing LOL this was my first taste into Black / Death Metal. Awesome Song.
Necrotic Nick- I heard Procreation of the Wicked on a sampler around the time Century Media was reissuing their album I believe and I ended up digging it. When I saw some of their pictures in Metal Maniacs issues I thought they looked like a metal theater troop about to perform in a park somewhere. Lol
I'm with Jon regarding Cold Lake. All the hate is greatly exaggerated. A lot of people who bash it have actually never heard it, most are just parroting what they've read on the electric interwebs.
I haven't given the album any hate, but have not listened fully. I have been persuaded to avoid by way of the across-the-board bad reviews. Anyhow, challenge accepted. I WILL listen to this in-full tonight.
Monotheist would be my favorite as much as I like albums like morbid tales and to mega therion. There is a Darkness about monotheist that I absolutely like.
Necrotic Nick- Agreed. Monotheist just feels legit evil without coming off as campy. I love the songwriting and the production is absolutely massive as well. Great album.
Great video, guys, but if you don't mind, I'd like to correct a few inaccuracies. The only song from Emperor's Return EP which was later recorded for the following full-length album is Circle of the Tyrants. Some other songs from this EP were added to the re-issue of To Mega Therion from 2017 as bonus tracks. Songs Dethroned Emperor and Morbid Tales were added to the American version of Morbid Tales EP released by Metal Blade (in 1984 on cassette and in 1985 on vinyl). The original European version released by Noise Records doesn’t include these two songs. The song Inner Sanctum from Into the Pandemonium was written in 1985 and that is why it sounds so different from the rest of the material. As far as I know, the label forced the band to change many things on that record (including the order of songs) so it is possible that Mexican Radio was not originally supposed to be the album opener. Concerning those annoying moaning vocals, they remind me of early records of the gothic rock band Christian Death released in early eighties, but it can only be a coincidence. The live album recently released by Triptykon includes material originally written for Celtic Frost. Rex Irae is from Into the Pandemonium, Winter is from Monotheist and the middle part of the trilogy called Grave Eternal was not previously released.
It's OK. I suppose that nobody else would notice those things. I've been listening to Celtic Frost since the year Cold Lake was released. By the way, one of the first songs I heard was Cherry Orchards accompanied by that atrocious video. I was lucky enough to come across their early records few weeks later, otherwise I would probably avoid this band to this day. :-)
Into the Pandemonium masterpiece!! I love it. Some of the vocal textures "moaning" were a tribute to Rozz Williams from Christian Death. A lot of postpunk influence.
I rank my Celtic Frost as: 1. To Mega Therion 2. Monotheist 3. Morbid Tales 4. Vanity/Nemesis 5. Into the Pandemonium 6. Cold Lake For me, Celtic Frost has a clear top 3 and clear bottom 3. I have the most history with To Mega Therion, with songs like The Usurper, Jewel Throne and Circle of the Tyrants being some of my favorites. But I completely understand people putting Monotheist #1. It's heavy af and it's just an amazing record. I do love the production on Monotheist as well, and it's a phenomenal album. One of the best comeback albums and one of the best final album. I don't absolutely despise Cold Lake, but it was a big career blunder for Celtic Frost. The image of the band, the lyrics, and the vocal performance of Tom G Warrior killed the album. Tom G Warrior is best at doing thrash/death metal.
Say what you will about the Jammin' One, but he is a brave and rugged individualist. He jams to the beat of his own drummer, a drummer who cannot be heard by the herd. We mere mortals are not destined to understand the logic of Giants & Gods. We hear with human ears, so the sublime sounds of say A Cold Lake sound like a cacophony of cringe to us. Meanwhile the blissful tones of an Altar Of Madness sound like the powerful, pounding of elder godliness to us. But the Jammin'One is not fooled, for he knows what he hears. I for one bow to the inscrutable Titan of Jams. Hail m'Lord!
I've read that Tom G.W. wanted to cover Frank Sinatra, but then felt that Megadeth had sort of beat him to the punch with their 1985 cover of Nancy Sinatra, so he decided against it.
I have a compilation of demos celtic frost did from '84 and '85 that is pretty cool- its a heavier/ more raw version of the punky metal on Morbid Tales. Maybe more Hellhammer- esque. Im sure you guys have heard it, but if you havent- worth a listen!
Wow... Not 1, not 2 but 3 metalheads that think the Monotheist is the best Celtic Frost release... Finally...! I also think it is their best effort. Most of my friends, although they love Monotheist, feel and think sentimental and say I can't put Monotheist at the top of the list when we have To Mega Therion or Morbid Tales. I understand the love for those albums. They are the stepping stones for what was to come and change our worlds in metal. We owe a lot of what we listen to today to those great, early Frost albums. But Monotheist is a great final stamp from a great band. It is their most mature and advanced album without compromising on what made them Celtic Frost...
My ranking : 1). To MegaTherion (catchiest riffs + heaviness = the best balance of those two things they ever achieved) 2). Morbid tales!! 3) Monotheist ( yes, thee Heaviest of theirs, but i kind of think the more modern riffage was a little stale after awhile , i.e. a few similar sounding songs, and tad too much slow stuff, but still great stuff) . It should have been the Lp made after Into the Pand......! 4). Into the Pandamonium ( i like everything on it , ...yes im weird'! 5). Vanity/Nemesis . 6). Cold Lake. i do remember one song that had a good riff. they should have reworked that one and made it heavier on another record. I'll have to see which song that is again .....
The Monotheist tour was the only time I saw Celtic Frost/Triptykon where they were great live…the other two times were Celtic Frost opening for Type O Negative and Triptykon headlining for the first album, and there seemed to be little to no effort in ensuring the shows were good (at least Type O was awesome)…I’ll listen to Celtic Frost and Triptykon’s studio recordings but I’ll never see another concert where Tom Warrior takes the stage
I’ve heard the reasoning for ranking EP’s kind of low🔎🕵🏽♂️ my beef with your ranking is: if you would’ve heard these releases when they came out, you would be ranking them much higher….
Check out the first Christian Death album, "Only Theatre Of Pain" if you haven't. A lot of the moaning you talk about on the Into The Pandemonium album comes from the influence of the vocalist on that album. The singing isn't even the best part, its really the guitar work of Rikk Agnew and the songs...its really good, and its one of the first "goth" albums, 1982. They were as scary to me as Venom's first album. I am old enough to get a good chuckle out of the Korn comparison too.
the saddest thing about Frost is they came back in like 2001 ,worked on the new record for 5,6 years, toured then it all imploded again. After all that rebuilding . I was hoping for at least 2 more records. maybe like a double concept record and a DVD of live stuff , a live record ...ect... Then later, even sadder, Martin died . then it was truly over for good.
that whole thing of the Dance Macabre, Tears in a prophets dreams is cool interludes . its not anything new. think of Sabbath and those dark interludes on their records .
#6) Cold Lake - No explanation needed here... utter garbage. #5) To Megatherion - Now here I need to give some explanations for sure. First off it has Necromantical Screams and Dawn Of Megiddo... two haunting and absolutely well penned tunes and Circle Of The Tyrants is also a great cut. But regarding the rest of the tracks I think they're a bit similar to their debut that I happen to like more than the ones here. So there you have it: another classic album that never resonated that much with me. #4) Morbid Tales - And from now on it's all great stuff. Celtic Frost's debut is indeed a game changer: mid tempo heavy and somber as hell compositions that gave a substantial help to pave the way to extreme metal. Procreation (Of The Wicked), Visions Of Mortality, Return Of The Eve or the speediest opener Into Crypts Of Rays are raw, linear yet captivating sonic landscapes of total darkness. Classic. #3) Monotheist - Now I must confess this is perhaps Celtic Frost's finest album with tons of variety and amazing compositions. Plus either be it the more melodic tracks or the raspier ones this is one of the darkest and more disturbing things I've ever listened to (and I listened to some weird stuff). There's a darkness embedded in every single tune here. Picking some of ideas from their two demos that never came out (Prototype and Nemesis Of power) and adding a crap load of more this is a hell of a return. As standouts I have the heaviness of Progeny, the almost post metal A Dying God Coming Into Human Flesh, the melodic yet somber as hell Drown In Ashes and Obscured (that was previously featured on Prototype) and man... don't even start me with Synagoga Satanae. Overall I think this record deserves #1 by a considerable margin. But fact I really grew incredibly fond of the following two records throughout the ages. #1) Into The Pandemonium - Well, the only gripe I have with this album is why the hell it starts with a half baked cover of Mexican Radio that should be on a B side. Other than that this was simply a game changer as Tom and the boys mixed their blueprint with goth rock and if I'm not mistaken this was the first time these two genres were mixed in a deliberate way. There are huge influences here from goth bands especially Christian Death and Tom's moaning voice is a blatant mimic of Rozz Williams' vocals (Jonathan Davies? WTF?). I Won't Dance, Inner Sanctum, Mesmerized, Caress Into Oblivion, Sorrows Of The Moon or Rex Irae are superb cuts that would later inspire countless bands. To sum it up this record is years ahead of its time and proof is bands like super influential bands like Paradise Lost, Anathema and My Dying Bride among others came back to drink from it several years after. Absolutely genial and ground breaking. #1) Vanity/ Nemesis - Now this is a wrongly maligned album as far as I'm concerned. This is a version of Celtic Frost more restrained but yet it recovers lots of its dark undertones only in a more dissimulated way one has to unwrap to truly enjoy. The Heart Beneath opens up the damn thing in a powerful way, Third From The Sun keeps the adrenaline pumping while Wings Of Solitude and This Island Earth are somewhat re ashes of their Into The Pandemonium legacy. The Name Of My Bride sounds like what if Celtic Frost wrote In My Darkest Hour. On the other hand The Restless Seas and A Kiss Or A Whisper have some of the bands early aggressive traits. Nemesis closes the album picking a bit from each era and wraps up the whole thing in a superb way. Underrated as hell, this is one of the band's best records IMO and I believe it's bashed because the band didn't retrieve their evil outfits and fans were still suffering from Cold Lake's disappointment. As far as I'm concerned, Vanity/ Nemesis simply rules.
It must be you young guys. I got the cassette and the Vinyl when it came out and it wasn't a EP. It had 9-10 songs on it. Or 8-9. and if you ask anyone 45 -53 age it's Cell-tic Frost!! And Tom A-Ray-A. Don't care how he fuckin pronounces it! We didn't have the internet, we had Combat records and the Metal shop radio.
Cold Lake is a great album... If you've never heard any other Celtic Frost album. I mean it's okay for what it is but easily the weak link in the discography. (See also: Megadeth: Risk)
You didn't mention it but I actually kind of dug Tom G. Warrior's industrial band Apollyon Sun. it was better than Halford's 2WO. lol. And he brought the guitarist, Erol Uenala, from that band with him to play on Monotheist. If Jon hates Tom G. Warriors vocals, I wonder what he thinks of Coroner's vocals? They're very similar in style. Tom G. Warrior even sung on Coroner's demo "Death Cult".
Necrotic Nick- I've only jammed Apollyon Sun sparingly and it was ok. Monotheist is incredible though. I'm not entirely sure if Jon has jammed any Coroner to be honest. I know I love that band and I heard they were going to hit the studio before Covid wrecked everything.
@@thrallsofmetal Yeah, Coroner was one of those bands I always heard of in the 80s but never heard, or could acquire any of their music. But now thanks to the power of youtube and Amazon I've become a fan and have all their albums and home DVD set.
Thralls Of Metal i mean can you do a more appealing sound. Just not a disgustingly disruptively bleep. Maybe a subtler sound that doesn’t distract me. Anyways you have good content and i just want to help
I agree that I could never get into Into the Pandemonium. I want to like it so bad, but I just can't. There are good moments/songs on it that I enjoy. Mexican Radio and I Won't Dance belong on B-sides. One in their Pride just feels out of place. Honestly, I would rearrange the song order too. I feel atmospherically there are some songs that would work better if they lead into other songs. And I feel that Mesmerized or Babylon Fell are better openers than Mexican Radio. For me, and I'm going to get hate for this, I compare this album to Morbid Angels Illud Divinum Insanus, as shitty as that album is I think I liked 3 songs. The first 2 releases will always be my favorite, after that Vanity/Nemesis and than Monotheist. I honestly can't tell you the last time I listened to Monotheist.
For me "Into The Pandemonium" is pure shit, I like "Vanity Nemesis" and "Cold Lake" much better. My list: 1- Morbid Tales 2- To Mega Therion 3- Vanity Nemesis 4- Cold Lake (the vilified 😡) 5- Monotheist ( boring 😒) 6- Into The Pandemonium (total garbage)
"Monotheist" is the greatest comeback album in the history of metal.
Necrotic Nick- It's definitely up there with Carcass's Surgical Steel and At the Gates At War With Reality for me in terms of greatest comebacks.
@@thrallsofmetal this would make for great video content for you guys "greatest comeback in the history of metal" My votes go to Kreator - Violent Revolution. Exodus - Tempo of the Damned. Metallica - Death Magnetic (hate me all you want, I fuckin love that album...and St. Anger was one of the worst albums in history). I also agree w/ Carcass and AtG. Also you can't forget Necrophagist with "God, I Wish They Would Put That Fucking Album Out"....I'll probably think of more to add here later
Yep
Nop
Painkiller- should also be on the greatest comeback list!
1. Morbid Tales/Emperor's Return
2. Monotheist
3. To Mega Therion
4. Vanity Nemesis
5. Into the Pandemonium
6. Cold Lake
Totally with you. Monotheist was an unbelieveable banger. 14 year old me did not expect it, and its pretty "Pre-Tryptikon" . Monotheist, Morbird Tlaes and To Mega Therion are the only Celtic Frost Album i still jam on a regular basis. "Your friends are over after a night at the bar?Ok, Morbid Tales!" "You just want to have real evil shit for Yourself?" "Monotheist!"
1. Morbid Tales
2. To Mega Therion
3. Into the Pandemonium
4. Monotheist
WE NEED AN ‘OBITUARY’ ALBUMS RANKED!!!!!!!
Into the Pandemonium masterpiece!! I love it. Some of the vocal textures "moaning" were a tribute to Rozz Williams from Christian Death. A lot of postpunk influence.
you are the only one here who really understood Celtic Frost.
Rozz could moan so much better though
Facts. "Into the Pandemonium" is an utter masterpiece. Not only their best album, in my opinion, but also in my top ten of all time, any genre. I think the problem here is that the reviewers are listening with 2020 ears and not 1987 ears. This is a challenging listen in 2022, let alone when it was released, but context is king and the context is that this was released in 1987 when there was ZERO that sounded anything like this.
@@RichVader Hell yeah. It's also in my top ten of any genre and timeless
@@RichVader plus to understand Frost you have to kind of like other types of music , which they include in their sound. they are NOT like AC/DC or something straight up like that !!
My ranking:
1. Morbid Tales/Emperor's Return (I combined both since I have the CD where it's the combined version called Morbid Tales)
2. To Mega Therion
3. Into the Pandemonium
4. Monotheist
5. Vanity/Nemesis (so underrated yet so good)
6. Cold Lake
1. To Mega Therion
2. Morbid Tales
3. Into The Pandemonium
4. Monotheist
5. Vanity Nemesis
6. Cold Lake
Random fact: I traded my Diabolus in musica CD for Into the pandemonium. I didn't really like the former and I absolutely loved the latter. :D
Necrotic Nick- As much as I don’t care for Diabolus I still have my copy. Pandemonium is a flat out weird listen though. Musically there’s some cool moments but the moaned vocals ruin a lot of it for me.
@@thrallsofmetal I absolutely understand. What made it easier for me to like it I think is the fact that Into was the very first Celtic Frost album I've heard. I hated Diabolus and I was already very much into black metal, so when a buddy told me he had a Celtic Frost album for his birthday and he doesn't like it... I smelled opportunity.
Celtic Frost is basically Venom is Venom could actually play their instruments
Used section of a record store around '90... "Why are there so many copies of Cold Lake?"
Ty for saying it "Keltic"Frost so many Americans say Celtic as in the Boston Celtics .
Necrotic Nick- I'm still surprised people still say it with the soft "c" here. I figured the name had been properly dropped here enough that would happen less.
Larry "The Usurper" Bird
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Cool video I forgot about this band I think I will do a ranking video too. I would say unless the USA version of Emperor's Return is different to Europe, only Circle Of The Tyrants ended up on other albums. That EP rules for me.
I actually had the good fortune of catching them live when they were touring for Monotheist. To this day, it stands as one of the best shows I have ever been to in my life.
This was awesome!!! I have a soft spot for Cold Lake only because it was the first CF I ever heard. I had read a ton in zines about how sinister they were and couldn't wrap my mind around it. Later in life I heard the older stuff and understood, but still like the glam stuff for nostalgia.
my list
1 Into The Pandemonium
2 To Mega Therion
3 Morbid Tales
4 Vanity/Nemesis
5 Monotheist
6 Cold Lake
I remember watching Circle of the Tyrants video on the Much Music Power Hour back in 85 here in Canada and the puffy pirate shirt (envisioning the episode from Seinfeld) that Dominic Steiner was wearing LOL this was my first taste into Black / Death Metal. Awesome Song.
Necrotic Nick- I heard Procreation of the Wicked on a sampler around the time Century Media was reissuing their album I believe and I ended up digging it. When I saw some of their pictures in Metal Maniacs issues I thought they looked like a metal theater troop about to perform in a park somewhere. Lol
Damn, I love this video and pretty much agree with your album rankings
I'm with Jon regarding Cold Lake. All the hate is greatly exaggerated. A lot of people who bash it have actually never heard it, most are just parroting what they've read on the electric interwebs.
I haven't given the album any hate, but have not listened fully. I have been persuaded to avoid by way of the across-the-board bad reviews.
Anyhow, challenge accepted. I WILL listen to this in-full tonight.
Great video, all of you! My favourite have always been To Mega Therion and Morbid Tales. Cheers. 🥃
6. Cold Lake
5. Vanity/Nemesis
4. Morbid Tales
3. To Mega Therion
2. Into the Pandemonium
1. Monotheist
Monotheist would be my favorite as much as I like albums like morbid tales and to mega therion. There is a Darkness about monotheist that I absolutely like.
Necrotic Nick- Agreed. Monotheist just feels legit evil without coming off as campy. I love the songwriting and the production is absolutely massive as well. Great album.
Dethroned Emperor cover art is one of my all time fav covers. Fkn sexy
1. To Mega Therion
2. Morbid Tales/Emperor's Return
3. Monotheist
4. Vanity Nemesis
5. Into the Pandemonium
6. Cold Lake
I'm really digging that Mortician shirt.
Great video, guys, but if you don't mind, I'd like to correct a few inaccuracies. The only song from Emperor's Return EP which was later recorded for the following full-length album is Circle of the Tyrants. Some other songs from this EP were added to the re-issue of To Mega Therion from 2017 as bonus tracks. Songs Dethroned Emperor and Morbid Tales were added to the American version of Morbid Tales EP released by Metal Blade (in 1984 on cassette and in 1985 on vinyl). The original European version released by Noise Records doesn’t include these two songs.
The song Inner Sanctum from Into the Pandemonium was written in 1985 and that is why it sounds so different from the rest of the material. As far as I know, the label forced the band to change many things on that record (including the order of songs) so it is possible that Mexican Radio was not originally supposed to be the album opener. Concerning those annoying moaning vocals, they remind me of early records of the gothic rock band Christian Death released in early eighties, but it can only be a coincidence.
The live album recently released by Triptykon includes material originally written for Celtic Frost. Rex Irae is from Into the Pandemonium, Winter is from Monotheist and the middle part of the trilogy called Grave Eternal was not previously released.
Necrotic Nick- I figured I'd miss some things. lol. Thanks though.
It's OK. I suppose that nobody else would notice those things. I've been listening to Celtic Frost since the year Cold Lake was released. By the way, one of the first songs I heard was Cherry Orchards accompanied by that atrocious video. I was lucky enough to come across their early records few weeks later, otherwise I would probably avoid this band to this day. :-)
Into the Pandemonium masterpiece!! I love it. Some of the vocal textures "moaning" were a tribute to Rozz Williams from Christian Death. A lot of postpunk influence.
I rank my Celtic Frost as:
1. To Mega Therion
2. Monotheist
3. Morbid Tales
4. Vanity/Nemesis
5. Into the Pandemonium
6. Cold Lake
For me, Celtic Frost has a clear top 3 and clear bottom 3. I have the most history with To Mega Therion, with songs like The Usurper, Jewel Throne and Circle of the Tyrants being some of my favorites. But I completely understand people putting Monotheist #1. It's heavy af and it's just an amazing record. I do love the production on Monotheist as well, and it's a phenomenal album. One of the best comeback albums and one of the best final album. I don't absolutely despise Cold Lake, but it was a big career blunder for Celtic Frost. The image of the band, the lyrics, and the vocal performance of Tom G Warrior killed the album. Tom G Warrior is best at doing thrash/death metal.
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Had my Mega Therion shirt on so let’s see what ranks the Thralls traverse.
Say what you will about the Jammin' One, but he is a brave and rugged individualist. He jams to the beat of his own drummer, a drummer who cannot be heard by the herd. We mere mortals are not destined to understand the logic of Giants & Gods. We hear with human ears, so the sublime sounds of say A Cold Lake sound like a cacophony of cringe to us. Meanwhile the blissful tones of an Altar Of Madness sound like the powerful, pounding of elder godliness to us. But the Jammin'One is not fooled, for he knows what he hears.
I for one bow to the inscrutable Titan of Jams. Hail m'Lord!
Yeah, I like that Jon really comes up with his own ideas about each album.
What other band could do a blackened cover of Dean Martin? Morbid Tales is my favorite. I have to be honest, I love Cold Lake. It's solid glam.
I've read that Tom G.W. wanted to cover Frank Sinatra, but then felt that Megadeth had sort of beat him to the punch with their 1985 cover of Nancy Sinatra, so he decided against it.
Looks like Shred Lord is mentally dissecting the songs note for note, in his mind sometimes..
Shred is so chill.
"Diet W.A.S.P." -THE best line of this video -HAHA!
I have a compilation of demos celtic frost did from '84 and '85 that is pretty cool- its a heavier/ more raw version of the punky metal on Morbid Tales. Maybe more Hellhammer- esque. Im sure you guys have heard it, but if you havent- worth a listen!
Necrotic Nick- I have the reissue of Hell Hammer's Demon Entrails. Those demos might be on there actually. I haven't jammed that in ages though.
@@thrallsofmetal demon entrails is the most evil shit ive ever heard- so great and RAWWWW. worth a revisit i promise!
I will also agree: Monotheist is their best record, their ultimate statement.
Wow... Not 1, not 2 but 3 metalheads that think the Monotheist is the best Celtic Frost release... Finally...! I also think it is their best effort. Most of my friends, although they love Monotheist, feel and think sentimental and say I can't put Monotheist at the top of the list when we have To Mega Therion or Morbid Tales. I understand the love for those albums. They are the stepping stones for what was to come and change our worlds in metal. We owe a lot of what we listen to today to those great, early Frost albums. But Monotheist is a great final stamp from a great band. It is their most mature and advanced album without compromising on what made them Celtic Frost...
I just listened to vanity/ nemesis one of the best things I ever listened to heheh. Im gonna listen to more albums by them.
My ranking : 1). To MegaTherion (catchiest riffs + heaviness = the best balance of those two things they ever achieved) 2). Morbid tales!! 3) Monotheist ( yes, thee Heaviest of theirs, but i kind of think the more modern riffage was a little stale after awhile , i.e. a few similar sounding songs, and tad too much slow stuff, but still great stuff) . It should have been the Lp made after Into the Pand......! 4). Into the Pandamonium ( i like everything on it , ...yes im weird'! 5). Vanity/Nemesis . 6). Cold Lake. i do remember one song that had a good riff. they should have reworked that one and made it heavier on another record. I'll have to see which song that is again .....
The Monotheist tour was the only time I saw Celtic Frost/Triptykon where they were great live…the other two times were Celtic Frost opening for Type O Negative and Triptykon headlining for the first album, and there seemed to be little to no effort in ensuring the shows were good (at least Type O was awesome)…I’ll listen to Celtic Frost and Triptykon’s studio recordings but I’ll never see another concert where Tom Warrior takes the stage
I’ve heard the reasoning for ranking EP’s kind of low🔎🕵🏽♂️ my beef with your ranking is: if you would’ve heard these releases when they came out, you would be ranking them much higher….
You guys are amazing
Jon smoking rocks. Cold Lake is so bad that they don’t even have it uploaded on Spotify
Check out the first Christian Death album, "Only Theatre Of Pain" if you haven't. A lot of the moaning you talk about on the Into The Pandemonium album comes from the influence of the vocalist on that album. The singing isn't even the best part, its really the guitar work of Rikk Agnew and the songs...its really good, and its one of the first "goth" albums, 1982. They were as scary to me as Venom's first album. I am old enough to get a good chuckle out of the Korn comparison too.
the saddest thing about Frost is they came back in like 2001 ,worked on the new record for 5,6 years, toured then it all imploded again. After all that rebuilding . I was hoping for at least 2 more records. maybe like a double concept record and a DVD of live stuff , a live record ...ect... Then later, even sadder, Martin died . then it was truly over for good.
that whole thing of the Dance Macabre, Tears in a prophets dreams is cool interludes . its not anything new. think of Sabbath and those dark interludes on their records .
#6) Cold Lake - No explanation needed here... utter garbage.
#5) To Megatherion - Now here I need to give some explanations for sure. First off it has Necromantical Screams and Dawn Of Megiddo... two haunting and absolutely well penned tunes and Circle Of The Tyrants is also a great cut. But regarding the rest of the tracks I think they're a bit similar to their debut that I happen to like more than the ones here. So there you have it: another classic album that never resonated that much with me.
#4) Morbid Tales - And from now on it's all great stuff. Celtic Frost's debut is indeed a game changer: mid tempo heavy and somber as hell compositions that gave a substantial help to pave the way to extreme metal. Procreation (Of The Wicked), Visions Of Mortality, Return Of The Eve or the speediest opener Into Crypts Of Rays are raw, linear yet captivating sonic landscapes of total darkness. Classic.
#3) Monotheist - Now I must confess this is perhaps Celtic Frost's finest album with tons of variety and amazing compositions. Plus either be it the more melodic tracks or the raspier ones this is one of the darkest and more disturbing things I've ever listened to (and I listened to some weird stuff). There's a darkness embedded in every single tune here. Picking some of ideas from their two demos that never came out (Prototype and Nemesis Of power) and adding a crap load of more this is a hell of a return. As standouts I have the heaviness of Progeny, the almost post metal A Dying God Coming Into Human Flesh, the melodic yet somber as hell Drown In Ashes and Obscured (that was previously featured on Prototype) and man... don't even start me with Synagoga Satanae. Overall I think this record deserves #1 by a considerable margin. But fact I really grew incredibly fond of the following two records throughout the ages.
#1) Into The Pandemonium - Well, the only gripe I have with this album is why the hell it starts with a half baked cover of Mexican Radio that should be on a B side. Other than that this was simply a game changer as Tom and the boys mixed their blueprint with goth rock and if I'm not mistaken this was the first time these two genres were mixed in a deliberate way. There are huge influences here from goth bands especially Christian Death and Tom's moaning voice is a blatant mimic of Rozz Williams' vocals (Jonathan Davies? WTF?). I Won't Dance, Inner Sanctum, Mesmerized, Caress Into Oblivion, Sorrows Of The Moon or Rex Irae are superb cuts that would later inspire countless bands. To sum it up this record is years ahead of its time and proof is bands like super influential bands like Paradise Lost, Anathema and My Dying Bride among others came back to drink from it several years after. Absolutely genial and ground breaking.
#1) Vanity/ Nemesis - Now this is a wrongly maligned album as far as I'm concerned. This is a version of Celtic Frost more restrained but yet it recovers lots of its dark undertones only in a more dissimulated way one has to unwrap to truly enjoy. The Heart Beneath opens up the damn thing in a powerful way, Third From The Sun keeps the adrenaline pumping while Wings Of Solitude and This Island Earth are somewhat re ashes of their Into The Pandemonium legacy. The Name Of My Bride sounds like what if Celtic Frost wrote In My Darkest Hour. On the other hand The Restless Seas and A Kiss Or A Whisper have some of the bands early aggressive traits. Nemesis closes the album picking a bit from each era and wraps up the whole thing in a superb way. Underrated as hell, this is one of the band's best records IMO and I believe it's bashed because the band didn't retrieve their evil outfits and fans were still suffering from Cold Lake's disappointment. As far as I'm concerned, Vanity/ Nemesis simply rules.
iv'e never seen someone rank TO Mega.. that low . to me its their best! oh well.
The seagulls follow the trawler...
YEAH FUCKING JAMMIN JON
The third guy made me piss my pants tabarnak!
It must be you young guys. I got the cassette and the Vinyl when it came out and it wasn't a EP. It had 9-10 songs on it. Or 8-9. and if you ask anyone 45 -53 age it's Cell-tic Frost!! And Tom A-Ray-A. Don't care how he fuckin pronounces it! We didn't have the internet, we had Combat records and the Metal shop radio.
I like Cold Lake too 😉
saw Celtic Frost with(Voi Vod opening) back in 86. Great show classic band but Cold Lake is abysmal.
Jamming Jon ranked Emperor's Return bellow Into the Pandemonium...
And Cold Lake #2
The cover of "Mexican Radio" = *dumpster fire!*
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Cold Lake is a great album... If you've never heard any other Celtic Frost album. I mean it's okay for what it is but easily the weak link in the discography. (See also: Megadeth: Risk)
You didn't mention it but I actually kind of dug Tom G. Warrior's industrial band Apollyon Sun. it was better than Halford's 2WO. lol. And he brought the guitarist, Erol Uenala, from that band with him to play on Monotheist. If Jon hates Tom G. Warriors vocals, I wonder what he thinks of Coroner's vocals? They're very similar in style. Tom G. Warrior even sung on Coroner's demo "Death Cult".
Necrotic Nick- I've only jammed Apollyon Sun sparingly and it was ok. Monotheist is incredible though. I'm not entirely sure if Jon has jammed any Coroner to be honest. I know I love that band and I heard they were going to hit the studio before Covid wrecked everything.
@@thrallsofmetal Yeah, Coroner was one of those bands I always heard of in the 80s but never heard, or could acquire any of their music. But now thanks to the power of youtube and Amazon I've become a fan and have all their albums and home DVD set.
Agreed. 🤘🏽😃🤘🏽
into pandemonium = celtic frost gothic masterpiece how are people not bored by monotheist too fkn slow wtf do or stick it on 45?
People love monotheist so much for some reason and I seriously dislike that album.
7:55 8:57 😆😂🤣 I laughed my ass off
Auuuuuuugggghhhhhooooowww, this is a good video.😂
Cold Lake is fucking great!
Is the guy from downfall Network still on here
Necrotic Nick- Not in our videos. We’re doing a cross promotion with them right now.
8:57 lmao 😂
Into the Pandemonium is a bleeding masterpiece!! But you boys like the repulsive Vanity / Nemesis more! Unbelievable. Uuuuungghh
Are you Morbid
Prototype!
I like all the bands Celtic Frost inspired, and dig the music, but I can't stand their vocals. So I'm with you John.
Necrotic Nick- I actually like Tom's harsher vocals, but the dude can't sing. The moaning on Into the Pandemonium drove me nuts.
Thank you! Haha. I just don't understand why one would choose to purposefully sound like a whiny Fred Durst.
What's with bleaping of swears lads 🤔
Necrotic Nick- We’re trying to get away from swearing so much since we’re working with a monetized channel.
Thralls Of Metal i mean can you do a more appealing sound. Just not a disgustingly disruptively bleep. Maybe a subtler sound that doesn’t distract me. Anyways you have good content and i just want to help
Necrotic Nick- Yeah, the beep is just kinda makeshift until I find a better sound.
@@thrallsofmetal Possibly see if you can use "Napalm Death - You Suffer" since its so short and fits perfectly for the content.
My vote was for either burps, farts, or odd animal noises.
Sorry for the late like🤫🤘
I agree that I could never get into Into the Pandemonium. I want to like it so bad, but I just can't. There are good moments/songs on it that I enjoy. Mexican Radio and I Won't Dance belong on B-sides. One in their Pride just feels out of place. Honestly, I would rearrange the song order too. I feel atmospherically there are some songs that would work better if they lead into other songs. And I feel that Mesmerized or Babylon Fell are better openers than Mexican Radio. For me, and I'm going to get hate for this, I compare this album to Morbid Angels Illud Divinum Insanus, as shitty as that album is I think I liked 3 songs. The first 2 releases will always be my favorite, after that Vanity/Nemesis and than Monotheist. I honestly can't tell you the last time I listened to Monotheist.
For me "Into The Pandemonium" is pure shit, I like "Vanity Nemesis" and "Cold Lake" much better.
My list:
1- Morbid Tales
2- To Mega Therion
3- Vanity Nemesis
4- Cold Lake (the vilified 😡)
5- Monotheist ( boring 😒)
6- Into The Pandemonium (total garbage)
you are most probably utterly deaf for valuable music...
My list exactly. Into the Pandemonium is pure garbage.
Morbid tales for me and nothing else from them. All their other albums do nothing for me. I think they're way overrated.
you're overrated
overrated , gimme a break.
....but anyway. Morbid tales, To Mega Theron, Emperor's return Monotheist tied. The other trash isnt them. Its imposter's