The boy's reactions backstage and the judge's comments after and during the over me performance were almost all praises to jay. These are proof that jay did so well yet I don't know how he placed last.
Hopefully after the Mcountdown and fan meeting jay will be more noticed, ppl are covering over me in public so that's a plus, bc who can ignore Jay's voice? Tone deaf ppl and haters but real music lovers will know talent👏also the reason why he didn't get voted as much is maybe because there was an agenda by knetz to boycott jay, bc there's no way he got 430 something maybe a 600 at most but the only voting were probably the global audience probs (that stupid b button was spammed supposedly for jay even tho he gave more pronunciation to the song wit his adlibs mid performance)
@@EzraHawk there’s full reactions out for all performances if you haven’t seen them already. Literally all the boys praised Jay but it wasn’t completely shown in the broadcast versions
As a jaystar, the amount of hate Jay is getting will never not be insane. And the fact that each time he gets dead less or isn't appreciated, he loses confidence, he expects people to hate him. He expected to lose his seat in the top9 during the second elimination, and he wasn't surprised at getting last place in Over Me because people didn't cheer for him. What they're putting this man through is nonsense. Even if you don't like him, can the on-site fans at least be objective? We all know the song wouldn't have been as good without Jay's adlibs, but they're so eager to jump on his hate train because of fake rumours that they just ignore the fact that he's really talented and deserves to debut. It really makes me upset. As someone who went to his tour with Beomhan and whose sibling went to school with him, he's such a great, kind person. Please vote for him, he deserves to debut, and please don't believe the fake people talking about him and spreading rumours.
@@madbisscuit5941 because some dumb haters started false rumors of him being racist and we know tons of western fans love their victim mindset especially things about racism and will jump immediately believing nonsense just for the sake of hating - it's dumb af
Also- I want to see Jay and Kamden’s “Little Prince” skit SO BADLY because the preview we saw was HILARIOUS... Jay was so adorable as the fox and Kamden didn't want to be there & was complaining about Jay holding his hands 🤣🤣🤣
The hate Jay gets is the most disgusting thing happening in the BP fandom. I can't believe how gullible twitter is and how much they enjoy just jumping on a hate train.
Right, and they don’t even care if he’s innocent. They move on to reasons like “oh he cant dance”, “he’s better off as a soloist”, “he’s just cringy”. LIKE he doesn’t need to be an expert in dancing to be able to debut, no one ever complains about idols who dance but cant hold a note 😒 Plus he DID do soloist promotions already and was unsuccessful. And the cringy humor?? C’mon, now they’re just grasping onto straws. It’s boys planet, not comedy planet
Girl I’m on twitter fighting these antis everyday!! They’re super r*cist and disrespectful themselves! When I ask for proof they either disappear or say “I really don’t f--ing care.” ITS EXHAUSTING!!
@@kas_ualties7692 They act like being "cringe" is a crime. Especially since this is a subjective and just a matter of opinion. What they claim to be "cringe" is mostly a person just being an introverted, sometimes a bit socially awkward. But this is a crime? Wth... In kpop there so many cringe things, but that doesn't give you the right to atack and defame someone. The people who are hating on him for these stupid reasons are worst than trash.
@@angiem52 You know, babe, it would be great if we put all our energy into securing Jay's debut. Tomorrow, the 13th, the voting will open again and I will try to get as many votes as I can for him. We have the desadvantage being internacional fans because korean votes weigh more than ours, but I still believe we can overcome this. If just need to be strong as a fanbase. The votes are everything. And once he debuts, he is no longer in the Boys Planet contract and legal action can be taken against people who are cyberbullying him and defaming him. Racism is a crime, defamations as well and so is xenophobia. Do they really think they can commit crimes and get away with it? 😍😍😍 I don't think so.
Our boy is a big threat to others' favorites and it's dusgusting. Someone here wrote that it's a "Western" thing, but woke social justice lunatics are everywhere and SoKo-nets/Asian fandoms are notoriously slanderous, toxic bordering on dementia. SoKo bias against him is unhinged. Period. It's ironic considering that many top idols especially nowdays are of mixed heritage and he meets (right or wrong) current Korean visual standards effortlessly - just look at 2 TXT boys, for example.) This young man is beyond reproach (can't share more, but FACT) and is targeted for essentially same reasons so many (increasing daily, tbh) adore and respect him - he's a multi-dimentional "threat" - looks, talent in many areas. Even from vanity standpoint, his face doesn't need plastic surgery that others endure to get his features. I may sound like a biased adjumma, but it's obvious. It's about jealousy and attention-seeking juvenile baseless allegations from a few brats. It doesn't matter if any apologize. Jay is one determined stoic young man. He will succeed eventually, but emotionally it's brutal. I hope all who appreciate him continue to introduce others to his talent. It made me so happy to see billboards bought by his fans even if outside of S.Ko. ❤
Can we talk about the fact that Chen Kuan Jui is the 5th trainee to get all star for the musical challenge and the ONLY ONE we didn't see the performance?
@@bks5843 lee yedam may have the talent but people hate him for a reason his past got dug up & their was pic of him wearing dreadlocks so that why he didn’t make it😃
fr fr. at the end of the day, the songs themselves were always going to be a deciding factor in who won- switch was everyone's 4th-5th favourite song, supercharger grew on ppl but it was still people's second or third favourite song with not many popular trainees performing. en garde is the most polarising rank bc the song bangs so hard... but fanservice-y songs are always going to be the favourites in competitions like these. it was between smn and over me and everyone knew it, and the sexy concept pretty much always does best in the live audience voting.
My heart broke for Jay too when everyone else in that room was surprised by how he ranked and his points but he wasn't. When he said he wasn't surprised because he saw people weren't cheering for him as much when he was on stage, it was just so sad. Like all the boys in that room were stunned. Mnet has not really been helping their sketch reputation lately by hiring back not just one but two people who were previously proven to have been involved in rigging.
I’m sure Jay will make finals for sure even if he doesn’t make top 9 this elimination but it’s Woongki I’m more worried for. I think I will be so heart broken for him
Jay fans lets keep supporting him as much as we can! Meet NEEDS to know Jay in the final line up is MANDATORY! OR WE WILL BOYCOTT!!!!! JUSTICE FOR JAY!!!!!
The Jay hate trains is too much, people should’ve learned something from the hiyyih one in gp999, but no. Also, mnet cropping him out while he was doing the highnote and putting antis in the live audience isn’t doing any good for him too. Really angry about everything. Hoping now that with 1pick he will rise
@@kpoppy9635 they can actually, out of all the people that applied, mnet chooses whose fandoms and fans end up attending. That can lead to a few fandoms filling the whole audience or antis being there
@@i_am_marck5581 in that case, I can't help but wonder if they did that on purpose for drama. I hope they are building up for a redemption arc for Jay in the finale.
i was really sad that jay placed last and also i heard that the reason why he placed last was because there was a lot of people who hate him in the audience and they purposely voted no for jay and it just made me mad hearing that.
@@edyness2407 I still get flashbacks of the hate Hiyyih recieved for debuting. During the livestream of the finale people were paying money to write a highlighted hate comment about here. It was insane. Some people's racism really showed that day.
@@kpoppy9635 Much like Hiyyih, the hate is fueled by rumors and racism towards Wasians (by Inetz more than Knetz, actually. People blame Knetz solely for the discrimination he's facing, but the rumors and racism started and is still fueled mostly by Stan Twitter, which is mostly Western stans). These Twitter stans know the rumors aren't true, and just make up new rumors to hate him. They even recently tried to trick ARMYs into thinking he hated Jin with fake tweets (he went viral for being Jin biased recently, so ARMYs want to support him), and that failed immediately because ARMYs are the best internet sleuths.
@@goldyd144 hiyyih seemed hated more for being someone's sister (which she can't do anything about either) than her race but I know what you mean. And Jay isn't any idols relative so that makes me nervous. All he has to rely on in his voice. I hope Jin fans vote for him cause I want Jay to debut SO badly! I might check out Jin's MV too.
I am of the opinion that everyone in Over Me deserves to get first place but if push comes to shove and we have to rank- Jay deserves better! Also I just think the system of only showing selective scores/ranks is dumb. It skews the perception of viewers and makes contestants feel bad.
Yeah it's absolutely unnecessary, last place doesn't even mean anything it just hurts feelings. First place as well, for example gyuvin placed first twice but both times that rank wasn't well received. It's just a tool for mnet to manipulate the votes in the direction they want. I've long stopped giving those placings meaning.
Yeah, I agree so much with you. Im not because Jay was the 5th, but because of the 430... just, how? No one in this team deserve such low points, especially cause Jay's vocals were perfect.
zhang hao's first evil edit and it's him being too nice 😭😭 also my guy ricky holds record of getting him/his whole team put in negative light every. single. round. like mnet are u that scared? also over me KILLED IT like every single one of them served, slayed, devoured. 100% deserved that win also I'm just so happy that kuanjui gets to go on mccoundown he deserves so much he and zihao have got this far purely because of their talent mnet don't even know of their existence
Some of you guys keep using the word ‘evil edit’ and I’m wondering if y’all even understand what that is. That was not MNET trying to evil edit Hao lol
@@AmiAki i know that it was just drama (just like that mathhew and smn) 💀the first line of my comment is obviously a joke... evil editing is what they did with mjx, zsb and krystian
still, people are now calling Hao a terrible leader and getting compared to jwoo.. they forgot that Hao was the leader of KTL G-group.. I'd still call it evil editing! 🙄
Jay deserves to debut please 🥺 he really does deserve it . Mnet didn't even gave him proper screentime while singing too . I just want Mnet to regret everything 🙂
Thank you for speaking up for Jay. Jay deserved everything. Jay lost his confidence a lot, in the beginning you can see how Jay was excited to perform. Now he's just want to perform in the final. Over me evaluation and people's hate really broke Jay's heart.
seeing jay lose confidence makes my heart ache. people need to stop hating on him. the other day i saw so many people on twitter calling him a horse just because he doesn’t fit the kbs- disgusting behaviour honestly
I'm not even kidding when I saw Jay ranking last I threw my laptop on the floor. It's still working but I was so upset 😡 😫 I swear to god that the audience must have loss their hearing because how was that possible 😔 😪
I really really hope Zhang Hao still is P02, because I do not need the fanwar and Knetz dropping him right before the finale. That is my nightmare. (Zhang Hao is my 1Pick) I do not need more trauma after GP999……
Yes- we don’t want a Xiaoting 2.0 situation… I know she still made it, but she almost didn’t and she should’ve won the entire show so if Zhang Hao drops dramatically at the end I’m gonna be pissed!
I am tellling you, Boys Planet is really exhausting me these days. I always see people comparing Wang Zihao to Huening Bahiyyih, saying that if he debuts it would be as unexpected as here debut because they both get no screen time. Obviously I would love to see that again because we all love seeing Mnet's plans fail and because Zihao is a very good dancer. BUT as a Hiyyihlight who was there during the aftermath of the finale, I can tell you that the suprise debut is only half of Hiyyih's story. The hate she got afterwards, people saying that she was talentless and didn't deserve to debut, that she deserved it the least out of everyone in the finale. I never want to see that again. None of the trainees deserves to suffer like that after working hard and going through the hell which is a Mnet survial show. And this kind of hate is something I see targeted at Kim Gyuvin these days. It's the exact same but instead of Nepotism it's Pretty Privileges. And it makes me so sick. Sure, no one has to think that Kim Gyuvin performed the strongest in "En Garde". But some people can't express their opinion in a way that is not straight up hateful. Sorry, I just had to rant. No one deserves to go through was Bahiyyih went through. And Jay deservs better than to perform in front of an audiance with people who hate him. Another trainee who can be compared to Hiyyih too well. Why does everything have to happen again and again?
I agree- but I feel like the Bahiyyih of the season is Ricky, he just recently made it into the Top 9 after the 2 elimination rounds and he gets minimal screen time. Plus, his fan base is mostly consisted of international one-pick fans who obviously fell for him before the show even started… but- I’m not complaining, he honestly should debut solely because of “Young and rich, tall and handsome” 😂🤣🤭😅🥹
The sad thing is if Ricky ends up taking a spot in the debut lineup from some one like Gyuvin, I just KNOW he’s gonna get hate for not being in the Top 9 from early on… I’m seriously worried for Keita, Ricky and Jay in that sense; and notice that they’re all G group trainees, cuz NO ONE was mad that Tae Rae and Gunwook went up to the Top 9 and they’re both from K group
@@hawkwing8840 I hadn't considered Ricky before but now that you said it, I cab see that the Hiyyih role really fits him as well. There are just too many Bahiyyihs this season.
As a Jongwoo stan I have had thoughts of everything between "he'll make it for sure because of x reason" and "there's not enough spaces, what if he's eliminated 😭". So now I'm just helplessly waiting for the eliminations episode to come so I can be put out of my misery : ) and finally end the anxiety of not knowing
Same, I go from thinking maybe he'll make it to the 9 to thinking there's no way he'll survive cause there are so many popular trainees. The way some people are so rude to him online doesn't help either. I need to just know before I have a breakdown.
@@user-tf4tp2qk8c i just looked it up and the way she said it could mean both that he’s still there and that he got eliminated since he can’t leave the dorms until the episode airs on thursday, her saying “be yourself there and then comeback after” could mean both stay there until thursday and then comeback, or stay on the show until the final and then comeback with the results it literally doesn’t say anything about his position lmao also she posted it before they even actually filmed the elimination episode, since she was watching ep 10 air and the elimination was filmed the day after
Even as someone very Zhang Hao biassed it's just a fact over me wouldn't be as good without Jay to sing all this perfectly. I even feel like Zhang Hao feels like this because he wasn't as excited to win in his team as he did in tomboy
he was hopeful though, he said it several times, he wanted to win and go to mca with his members.. the desperation is actually stronger this time rather than excitement
5:48 I'm not even a Jiwoong stan but seeing this part made me so happy because I can only imagine the mental and physical stress they're all under atp but he was so mature throughout this whole situation from how he asked Matthew to switch the parts but then also talked to him afterwards and validated his feelings about it.... Like he wasn't wrong in asking Matthew to switch parts or how he handled it but he still apologised and worded it so well... just UGHH he's so great as an older figure for everyone else, I really hope he debuts as the oldest + leader of the group ❤❤❤ ALSO THE GOLDEN CHILD SHOUTOUT AAAAAA SEUNGEON X JOOCHAN WHEN
I'm so glad they included that scene. I hate the editing that just leaves everyone's feelings up in the air and for speculation. They were both very mature in expressing their feelings and validating each other's point of view. It was an excellent big brother moment and a good lesson. I think it's really important to show the audience this conversation. I really like seeing this side of Jiwoong too, I think he really suites being the oldest/leader because he can be silly and allow himself to be poked fun at, but he is also very mature and empathetic.
Yeah, I also think he express his ideas that are the best for the group, making ir clear to Mathew, but also taking care of Mathew feelings, I think is so good for the group debut. I didn’t like Him at first, because people were only voting for him for his visual, but now I can see his values as a person.
Yeah and Jiwoong also basically stood up for Seong who wanted the part but rather preferred everyone to be happy. I thought it was very admirable bc I’m sure he is very close to Matthew and who would WANT to jeopardize a friendship?
Praying everyday for Seowon P18 and Woongki P17 so we can have another Planet Camp tour 🤞 I also really liked the way they edited the performances with less reactions but then upload a specific one only with the trainees reactions cause it was really getting out of hands 🤡 At least Jay got some recognition from them …
Legit my Top Picks are gonna get sliced in half this final elimination round and I’m super sad about it (I can’t see a world without Seo Won, Woongki and Seung Hwan in the finale) but I feel like they’re gonna get eliminated 🥲😩🥺
bruh jay’s literally been my fav since the rush hour performance for the star level test. he got like 0 screen time the entirety of the dual position battle episodes, and he wasn’t even the main vocal, and it was obvious that mnet was tryna show jongwoo more, and jay still stayed so close to the top 9. so i’m slightly confident that jay will debut but i just like his voice so much like he needs to debut. and i hope he doesn’t get discouraged with all the hate he gets, like he’s soo talented
Thank you for acknowledging Jiwoong's apology! I feel like you're the only person who has especially as he didn't need to because it was well in his rights to say what he said but I'm so glad he realised that what he said hurt someone else too.
I don't understand why people say Jiwoong didn't fit the concept- Sure he's more known for sexy concepts, but he was adorable in “Say My Name”... He didn't stick out the most; but he was perfectly fine.
thank u for defending jay. his entire career is on the line bc ppl are spreading misinformation and mindlessly hating. this is his last chance (his words) and he truly needs to debut, hopefully by the time he's officially debuted people will open their eyes and listen to the proof and move on. we don't need everyone to like jay, but to bully him is just wrong, especially when he's done nothing to deserve it. jay is a kind hearted and genuine guy. people tend to not focus on how much of a team player he is, he's extremely talented, hardworking and always does what's best for his team. without his vocals a lot of these performances would be lacking. his voice alone garners so much attention whenever a preview or teaser is released. so many waited for Over Me bc of how great jay made it sound in the teaser, but the rank was extremely disappointing and soooo unexpected. everyone was outraged and even the trainees were getting up from their seats in shock. its unfair and genuinely so upsetting how badly these malicious rumours are affecting his placement in this show (as well as his confidence and i can only assume, mental health.) y'all, please vote for jay..live voting on the 20th is important and we gotta work hard to make him debut, he deserves it so so so much. jays been working hard for years, let’s make all of his training worth it.
Jay is the reason I'm watching Boys Planet when I never intended to. It pains me how stupid people joined the dumb Jay Hate Train for fun and giggles. They are ruining his confidence and mental health, they are literally cyberbullies and look proud of it. To my fellow Jaystars and to whom may like to hear, please vote for Jay...
as someone who is mainly on twt i genuinely thought for WEEKS that jay was probably a horrible person because of how much hate he gets, but ive searched so much and come to the conclusion that its literally all false but no one ever bothered to actually confirm the rumours. its so disgusting and toxic and is literally putting his entire career in jeopardy. i will admit i found some of his older clips cringey, but is that a crime? if he naturally got lower votes by not standing out to the audience then thats one thing but for him to get lower ranks because of unfounded hate trains is disgusting
Like I'm not even a fan of Jay, but he deserves better cause he doesn't deserve being paid dust by both mnet and the bepler fandom. I get people staying careful over the allegations, but he doesn't deserve hate
About Haruto... I also don't see him making it into the top 9 cause he's lacking Korean votes but I'm manifesting! I know all about their fuss but still don't understand like... Who can overlook an all rounder polyglot who is also entertaining 😩 They're missing out!
Thanks for emphasizing how unfairly MNet treated Jay. To everyone of us who likes and loves Jay's amazing voice, let's support and vote for him in this upcoming 1-pick voting (which will start on April 13 and end on April 20). Let's do what we can for Jay since KNets and MNet are not on his side. The only hope for him is the support that will come from international voters. Keep voting for Jay! Thank you!
Watched it yesterday completely ruined my Easter. Came to the conclusion it’s just a popularity contests because Jay is one of the best singers how could he get last place.
I'm honestly so scared for Hui. He has the one factor that most trainees don't have - ton of experiences producing amazing songs. The line-up might have fuck ton of visuals, vocalists and dancers. But if the music production is bad, nothing positive is gonna come out. Please vote for him. It breaks my heart to see him ranked so low.
I'm gonna be so sad if Zi Hao is eliminated, Haruto said he helped a lot for the Supercharger stage so I really don't want him out esp right after all that stress and hard work 😭😭
My Opinions on the “Artist Battle” = First Place : “Over Me” - Trainee #1 : Jay This is the best song and even though all performances where mid, Jay stood out the most with his vocals and didn’t deserve last place; so I’m happy he still got the benefit. Second Place : “Say My Name” - Trainee #1 : Matthew Honestly- kinda iconic of Matthew to be so vocal about not wanting this part and still SLAYING THE ABSOLUTE FUCK OUT OF IT! Like, my eyes where ONLY on him for the ENTIRE TIME; sure it could’ve been cuz of the drama… but I still think he did the best Third Place : “En Garde” - Trainee #1 : Hui Similar case to Jay, I was so shocked by Hoe Taek’s vocals and I think he’s a little underrated. I know he poured his heart and soul into the performance, and sure; Gunwook definitely had the most impact in the dance but I got sick of it since I’ve seen it so many times… Fourth Place : “Supercharger” - Trainee #1 : Haruto C’mon! It’s the ONLY option… but honestly, Haruto went through so much and for a performance filled with 2 babies, 3 bottoms and a token straight; they kinda did the damn thing… Fifth Place : “Switch” - Trainee #1 : Park Hanbin This performance was just so bland and I was super surprised since it seemed like this group was STACKED (I mean- you got Keita, PHanBin, Tae Rae, Jong Woo, Kamden) so that’s why it’s last…
Personally I wanted Matthew to place first in Say My Name he completely suited the concept and was the first fancam I went to watch. He definitely has the most natural cuteness to him and the way he executed some of the choreography was really nice. Not upset at Hanbin winning but the standouts imo were Matthew and Seungeon
I also heard that it was really hard to hear the singing while they were performing which kinda explains why Jay got last… but not why he got such a low score
thank u for the golden child shoutout T_T i hope they have korean cb soon! i hope seunghwan and wang zihao make it thru eliminations!! btw ive been watching ur recap videos since gp999, thanks for ur hard work!
I unfortunately need to correct you regarding Seunghwan ranking as he's not climbing the rank, au contraire, each week since the beginning he has been losing positions. I truly hope he won't be eliminated as he's in my top 9 but I'm starting to lose hope... I'm honestly also worried about Jiwoong because of all the stupid spoilers/speculations I see in tiktok regarding the ranking in which he's number 10 or has dropped etc, like HELL NO. Again the Jay situation is ridiculous, it's obvious Mnet doesn't want him in Bep1er and this sabotage thing is going too far.
WHAT?! Jiwoong in 10th?! I'd seriously die if that where the case- I'm also shocked that MNET switched up so quickly with Jay... In the beginning, it seemed like they let us know right off the bat that the only 3 G-group trainees they wanted in the group where Zhang Hao, Matthew and Jay. So after the second mission where he got overshadowed it seemed like they just forgot about him. But they also just treat G-group so weirdly too because they just evil edited Matthew and are somehow still allowing Keita to stay in the Top 9 when they don't seem to care about him at all... I'm just hoping the One-Picks come through in the finale. 🤧🥹😭🫠🥺
The title of this video tho 😭 that really was the main take away from this episode at least for me. Im tired of all the Jay slander and mnet skipping over him.
Still rooting for WANG ZIHAO to make it to the top 18. A Main Dancer of the group can't look better than he. The # of views in his fancams can show how likeable he is and is still growing on people. Lack of screentime (deliberately done, I suppose) hampered his popularity plus the fact that he got sick and was not included in the HERE I AM video. Looking forward to his future performances.
People need to recognize Wang Zi Hao existance rn. I cannot blame you guys for not putting him on your top picks obv bc you don't know him well bc of mnet editing. He got the least amount of screen time in any possibly way of editing. But trust me he is the 'Dark Horse' in this show. He shine only through only perf. & people can see that. His perf. didn't lie & that is a 100% pure talent if you ask me. Plus, That's why his indv fancams got some of the highest views out of all. You know why? Bc of his impact got people is curious about this mysterious boy. This is the same person that YougJun the Star Master had dare him to go on Street Man fighter show & this is the boy that PGunwook & Keita admire. He has no drama, multi talented (the best dancer among trainees) , humble, always smilling, hardworking by taking dance class regularly on weekends, and has a very friendly & bubbly personality. So mnet hate that. Mark my words, even if he cant debut in the final idol lineup, he can be more succsessful in the future. He has a strong fanbase & a lot of people trust his capibilities especially the mentors & professionals. Look, he is now under training with Trix (world's no. Krump dancer). He has gotten better w his Korean & a lot of opportunities will come to him. Mnet will be on their knees by missing a gem like him in this industry.
Wang Zihao needs to make it atleast to the finals, I feel like 3 pick system overshadowed him a lot, besides he was the only low rank trainee that got 100% support everytime, he also has the highest fancam views, that too without any screentime from msnake. 😔 Our hardworking angel Wang Zihao💗
ive been stressed OUT for a week. doesnt help that my picks are keita and jongwoo i have no clue wtf is gonna happen. super glad phanbin is no 11 rn coz hes my third pick but he deserves to be in debut lineup imo. also for the first time in a survival show ive watched, the number of dozens are incredibly low (basically just takuto, i love him though) so the idea of literally anyone being eliminated is breaking my heart.
I have a few different opinions about the ranking. First, I'm fairly certain Chen Kuanlui joins the trainees you put as certainly eliminated because I just don't see him making it, if you look at the score for the previous round, the 250 000 benefit Phanbin got only made him rise above Ricky so... one place. Is one place enough to really change things? Next Taerae, I'm 99.99% sure he didn't fall, he's a lot of people favourite and if you see the live audience, his name is everywhere, I think he can only rise. What's interesting is that Kim Gyuvin was shown 16 and you still put him 7, I think them leaking his fall will make him rise to 12-13 max. I think he fell for a reason, he's a filler vote and that means getting back up is harder then that. I would switch Gyuvin and Taerae, Jay and Jun Hyeon maybe and I think Haruto is lower, Shanbin is still first. And I think ZIhao and Haruto are the ones that will make it but barely, Jeonghyeon became really popular in SK so if Ifans don't have him below 25, he could make it. I think Jongwoo is gone with last episode and Woongi boy, Seunghwan and Kamden are the biggest idk for me. Other then that I'm so happy for Phanbin, he went down one place last episode at 14th and I felt like it was too close to 18th for comfort. I don't get how he's not in the Top 9 but somehow, I feel like him getting in it now would only make me sadder if he doesn't get in, in the final lineup.
I just pray everyday that Woonggi makes it and also Seowon, like without them the show is going to be soooo boring, and the fact that Haruto is also at risk??? people hate having fun I guess
I think lee jeonghyeon is gonna survive. He got a large Korean fanbase and 1pick voters. In the previous episode he was shown rank 14 , he literally jumped 10 spots.
I’m a fan of FM fam, Jays company, and Jay getting all this hate seems so unreasonable. He’s an amazing vocalist even though he takes a second to learn the dance. If you listen to his solo music he’s amazing. Honestly though I don’t want him to debut via Boys Planet purely because I want him to debut with Beomhan
I think ur survivor list is very realistic although I really don’t know if the team benefit will be enough to keep kuan jui in the competition… realistically speaking I would fill in his spot jongwoo or even Lee jeong Huron who mnet has been highlighting for the past epsiode. I am an avid Lee seunghwan supporter and I don’t even think he will survive either. Although I would want him too…
I think Jay being last is not really shocking as every member of the Over Me team were really good, but to me I was truly surprised about the HUUUUGE gap in the scores between Zhang Hao and him so yeah that's not good to see. This thing reminds me of Soyeon in MTG who scolded the audience voting because honestly, this score can't be that low if it wasn't related to the dramas
I definitely hear you. The oldest in the over me team is like 4 years younger than me so I just couldn’t see them that way lol 😂 but they did great! Their vocals were on point, especially Jay! And the choreography was done really well too! Vote Zhang Hao and Jay y’all 🙏🏽
Here’s an honest perspective from someone who simply watches the show & doesn’t use twitter: 1) Fans give too much attention to haters. 2) Fans get easily swept up by everything. For example there’s a “Jay was robbed” train that people jumped on. It’s giving mixed signals bc it’s focusing on and adding to the negativity. Some fans are even taking this opportunity to hate or undermine the other trainees. Imagine if instead people had focused on showing support instead of being mad that he got the lowest score (which really didn’t matter bc it’s only the opinion of a few hundred people in the audience? Let the next elimination results prove to Jay that he has ppl rooting for him by voting him). Imagine if fans instead started and jumped on a “we love you Jay” train or something. It could’ve been light, supportive, and positive, & it would’ve 100% garnered more support for Jay.
To me “Over Me” was the best song- but the performance was just mid… I think Zhang Hao did well as always, but nothing special. I feel like Ricky was a bit unstable and his vocals where low volume, Kuan Jui only stood out in the dance break with Zhang Hao and Jeong Hyeon only stood out in his rap. Jay in my opinion was the only consistent one and his vocals made the entire song
That bridge into the final chorus gives me goosebumps every time and I start levitating. People forget that just because it’s a performance, doesn’t mean that only the dancing matters- sure it’s definitely the most important part, but especially in this performance; Jay was the one to stick out for me because of his vocals. And some are trying to justify Jay’s last place ranking by saying that he’s “too awkward” with the movements and not confident enough. What they fail to see is that sure, he isn’t the best dancer in the show or in that group, but he can still keep up unlike people like Tae Rae who had to have the choreography altered so that he could just move around and he STILL couldn’t do it well in the rehearsals
I still think “Over Me” was the best and deserved it’s win… I just feel like every performance was mid-to-low in quality; idk- maybe we saw too much of them rehearsing or the pre-released clips of the performances just spoiled it for me because “En Garde” and “Say my Name” where just so predictable to me that they had no impact at all
@@starxmon I’m just praying he goes up in the ranking for this final survivor announcement with the One-Pick voting strategy and the benefit… I see a lot of people saying that he’s gonna go even more down in the ranking like 13-14 and if that’s true, I’m not even sure if I could have faith for the finale. I see a lot of support for him and so many One-Picks but somehow they don’t reflect in the rankings which is so strange 🧐🤨🥺😭😩😤
Is the hate train on jay still going on?! I thought it calmed down a little bit. I don’t understand why they are hating on jay when all he does is serve us heavenly vocals. And I saw that the head of jays agency released an official statement regarding all the rumors about jay saying that they aren’t true, so why would there still be hate? I’ve been on the jay love train since before boys planet and all he does is spread positivity I don’t understand why people don’t like him 😭😭😭
Opinions on this episode (very long) : - Over Me performance was mid tbh, it didn't meet my expectations as the "main event" but the song slaps anyways - Jay carried the song with his vocals no matter what the haters said and was absolutely ROBBED, Zhang Hao too with his center position and that dance break 🤯 - I don't think Jiwoong fits that much in Say My Name (he looked like a filler to me but not awkward while performing though), it just makes me upset he got to stay in SMN over Seo Won, Woongki or Taerae who fit the song much better imo - SMN was literally made for Seungeon, idc what y'all say (his little backpack omg) - Park Hanbin deserves to be in Bep1er, he's an all-rounder with leadership, I can see him becoming the "dark horse" of this season - Solji is the best master of Boys Planet (not creepy and not too harsh with the trainees) For the rankings, I have a few predictions : - Sung Hanbin will stay 1st, maybe a smaller gap with the 2nd - Zhang Hao will also stay 2nd, with the benefit and his loyal fanbase growing, I can see him maintaining his rank - Gyuvin will be out of the Top 9, he indeed dropped to 16th during the interim check but he would eventually rise a little bit (because his fans who dropped him will revote for him) but he will not return to the Top 9 - Ricky will enter the Top 9 I think (maybe 8th or 9th ?), the interim check doesn't seem to have affected his voters (at least in his international fanbase) - Gunwook and Taerae will also stay in the Top 9, I'm less confident for Gunwook but Taerae has a solid Korean fanbase I think so he'll stay in Top 9 - Half of the G group is going to be eliminated this time (Zihao, Kamden and Haruto are in a dangerous position currently) - Hui will not return in the Top 9 and will be in 14th/15th place - I'm ABSOLUTELY WORRIED about Seunghwan, he's constantly dropping in ranks and might get eliminated this time Thank you for reading this :)
RIGHT? I thought every performance was mid honestly, but Jay’s vocals made the entire song and performance the best overall and I feel like he’ll get back in the Top 9 or close in this final elimination round
I'm here after reading the title and hell you're right. I don't trust anything atm... I do like many trainees but my main focus is JAY. And it will continue to be him always.
I think you're overestimating Gyuvin and underestimating Taerae in terms of ranking. Gyuvin might have a shot for the top 9 when it comes to one pick, but I think it would be hard to rise back up now when half the voting period already happened before his interim ranking was revealed. And Taerae is super popular among Koreans so I don't think he's dropping out.
I swear if Seunghwan is eliminated I'd be devastated 😔
if this isn't me
This elimination round is gonna be brutal for me- because 3 out of my 7 top picks are surely gonna get eliminated (Seo Won, Woongki & Seung Hwan)
omg same 😭
@@hawkwing8840 NAURRRR😭😭😭💔
seunghwan and wumuti my talented kings 😭😭💜
The boy's reactions backstage and the judge's comments after and during the over me performance were almost all praises to jay. These are proof that jay did so well yet I don't know how he placed last.
he didn't get the votes, but he got everyone's love and respect and that's very meaningful
lol i only remember them making fun of his dancing😂
Hopefully after the Mcountdown and fan meeting jay will be more noticed, ppl are covering over me in public so that's a plus, bc who can ignore Jay's voice? Tone deaf ppl and haters but real music lovers will know talent👏also the reason why he didn't get voted as much is maybe because there was an agenda by knetz to boycott jay, bc there's no way he got 430 something maybe a 600 at most but the only voting were probably the global audience probs (that stupid b button was spammed supposedly for jay even tho he gave more pronunciation to the song wit his adlibs mid performance)
@@onion6255 Yeah like how can the audience be so ignorant of Jay’s talents. It is obvious he did very well. Jay’s adlibs made the song so much better.
@@EzraHawk there’s full reactions out for all performances if you haven’t seen them already. Literally all the boys praised Jay but it wasn’t completely shown in the broadcast versions
As a jaystar, the amount of hate Jay is getting will never not be insane. And the fact that each time he gets dead less or isn't appreciated, he loses confidence, he expects people to hate him. He expected to lose his seat in the top9 during the second elimination, and he wasn't surprised at getting last place in Over Me because people didn't cheer for him. What they're putting this man through is nonsense. Even if you don't like him, can the on-site fans at least be objective? We all know the song wouldn't have been as good without Jay's adlibs, but they're so eager to jump on his hate train because of fake rumours that they just ignore the fact that he's really talented and deserves to debut. It really makes me upset. As someone who went to his tour with Beomhan and whose sibling went to school with him, he's such a great, kind person. Please vote for him, he deserves to debut, and please don't believe the fake people talking about him and spreading rumours.
yeah fr it's stupid the conversation around him needs to change
I'm sorry, but why they hate jay??
@@madbisscuit5941 because some dumb haters started false rumors of him being racist and we know tons of western fans love their victim mindset especially things about racism and will jump immediately believing nonsense just for the sake of hating - it's dumb af
@@axisboise the worst part is they're using screenshots from DISCORD 😭😭
@@tatsumiakatsuki3802 ikr and those screenshots were proven to be fake already
Also- I want to see Jay and Kamden’s “Little Prince” skit SO BADLY because the preview we saw was HILARIOUS... Jay was so adorable as the fox and Kamden didn't want to be there & was complaining about Jay holding his hands 🤣🤣🤣
Yeah, that Cute fight melt my heart
This! And I wanted to see Chen Kuan Jui's skit too because he got all stars - how could they have not shown it if he did so well?? Disappointed
yeah i wish they'd upload it
The hate Jay gets is the most disgusting thing happening in the BP fandom. I can't believe how gullible twitter is and how much they enjoy just jumping on a hate train.
Right, and they don’t even care if he’s innocent. They move on to reasons like “oh he cant dance”, “he’s better off as a soloist”, “he’s just cringy”.
LIKE he doesn’t need to be an expert in dancing to be able to debut, no one ever complains about idols who dance but cant hold a note 😒 Plus he DID do soloist promotions already and was unsuccessful. And the cringy humor?? C’mon, now they’re just grasping onto straws. It’s boys planet, not comedy planet
Girl I’m on twitter fighting these antis everyday!! They’re super r*cist and disrespectful themselves! When I ask for proof they either disappear or say “I really don’t f--ing care.” ITS EXHAUSTING!!
@@kas_ualties7692 They act like being "cringe" is a crime. Especially since this is a subjective and just a matter of opinion. What they claim to be "cringe" is mostly a person just being an introverted, sometimes a bit socially awkward. But this is a crime? Wth... In kpop there so many cringe things, but that doesn't give you the right to atack and defame someone. The people who are hating on him for these stupid reasons are worst than trash.
@@angiem52 You know, babe, it would be great if we put all our energy into securing Jay's debut. Tomorrow, the 13th, the voting will open again and I will try to get as many votes as I can for him. We have the desadvantage being internacional fans because korean votes weigh more than ours, but I still believe we can overcome this. If just need to be strong as a fanbase. The votes are everything. And once he debuts, he is no longer in the Boys Planet contract and legal action can be taken against people who are cyberbullying him and defaming him. Racism is a crime, defamations as well and so is xenophobia. Do they really think they can commit crimes and get away with it? 😍😍😍 I don't think so.
Our boy is a big threat to others' favorites and it's dusgusting. Someone here wrote that it's a "Western" thing, but woke social justice lunatics are everywhere and SoKo-nets/Asian fandoms are notoriously slanderous, toxic bordering on dementia.
SoKo bias against him is unhinged. Period. It's ironic considering that many top idols especially nowdays are of mixed heritage and he meets (right or wrong) current Korean visual standards effortlessly - just look at 2 TXT boys, for example.)
This young man is beyond reproach (can't share more, but FACT) and is targeted for essentially same reasons so many (increasing daily, tbh) adore and respect him - he's a multi-dimentional "threat" - looks, talent in many areas. Even from vanity standpoint, his face doesn't need plastic surgery that others endure to get his features. I may sound like a biased adjumma, but it's obvious. It's about jealousy and attention-seeking juvenile baseless allegations from a few brats. It doesn't matter if any apologize. Jay is one determined stoic young man. He will succeed eventually, but emotionally it's brutal. I hope all who appreciate him continue to introduce others to his talent. It made me so happy to see billboards bought by his fans even if outside of S.Ko. ❤
to sum it all up, jay was robbed💔
sad but true
Absolutely 💯
literally like how the only member giving us face, body, and voice come last?? they rly not hiding they agenda nomore
@@hers6694 no all the members served
@@Toastboast739 yeah, everyone did so well
Can we talk about the fact that Chen Kuan Jui is the 5th trainee to get all star for the musical challenge and the ONLY ONE we didn't see the performance?
yeah that was so frustrating
Because Mnet is threatened by his talent, so they give him less screen time 🙄
@@KepiCake___HiyyihLicious hopefully they release clips of all the missions of all trainees
Jay, Chen kuan jui, Wang zihao, Lee Yedam, Park Jihoo, Haruto, and Seowon. They are all top level in the Boys planet, but underrated.
@@bks5843 lee yedam may have the talent but people hate him for a reason his past got dug up & their was pic of him wearing dreadlocks so that why he didn’t make it😃
jay was robbed. switch and supercharger teams were set up for failure :)
fr fr. at the end of the day, the songs themselves were always going to be a deciding factor in who won- switch was everyone's 4th-5th favourite song, supercharger grew on ppl but it was still people's second or third favourite song with not many popular trainees performing. en garde is the most polarising rank bc the song bangs so hard... but fanservice-y songs are always going to be the favourites in competitions like these. it was between smn and over me and everyone knew it, and the sexy concept pretty much always does best in the live audience voting.
My heart broke for Jay too when everyone else in that room was surprised by how he ranked and his points but he wasn't. When he said he wasn't surprised because he saw people weren't cheering for him as much when he was on stage, it was just so sad. Like all the boys in that room were stunned. Mnet has not really been helping their sketch reputation lately by hiring back not just one but two people who were previously proven to have been involved in rigging.
im going to riot if jay or woongki gets eliminated.
we ride at dawn lol
frfr they are both my picks 😔
I’m sure Jay will make finals for sure even if he doesn’t make top 9 this elimination but it’s Woongki I’m more worried for. I think I will be so heart broken for him
Haruto tying for first in solo points after leading his underdog team was deserved!
haruto deserves every good thing in the world
sadly he got eliminated
@@gyuvinious Now WakeOne just needs to set him free so he can get the treatment he deserves.
@@lavenderxxx1210 fr
Jay fans lets keep supporting him as much as we can! Meet NEEDS to know Jay in the final line up is MANDATORY! OR WE WILL BOYCOTT!!!!! JUSTICE FOR JAY!!!!!
vote for jay pls, bepler needs a vocalist like him
The Jay hate trains is too much, people should’ve learned something from the hiyyih one in gp999, but no.
Also, mnet cropping him out while he was doing the highnote and putting antis in the live audience isn’t doing any good for him too. Really angry about everything. Hoping now that with 1pick he will rise
only wishing nothing but good things for jay
Can mnet really control who attends the live events though? I thought it was based on whoever applies/pays first?
@@kpoppy9635 they can actually, out of all the people that applied, mnet chooses whose fandoms and fans end up attending. That can lead to a few fandoms filling the whole audience or antis being there
@@i_am_marck5581 in that case, I can't help but wonder if they did that on purpose for drama. I hope they are building up for a redemption arc for Jay in the finale.
i was really sad that jay placed last and also i heard that the reason why he placed last was because there was a lot of people who hate him in the audience and they purposely voted no for jay and it just made me mad hearing that.
i feel so bad for this kid TT
@edy I don't understand how people can hate him. Jay literally has the voice of an angel and sing better than 99% of the trainees on this show.
@@edyness2407 I still get flashbacks of the hate Hiyyih recieved for debuting. During the livestream of the finale people were paying money to write a highlighted hate comment about here. It was insane. Some people's racism really showed that day.
@@kpoppy9635 Much like Hiyyih, the hate is fueled by rumors and racism towards Wasians (by Inetz more than Knetz, actually. People blame Knetz solely for the discrimination he's facing, but the rumors and racism started and is still fueled mostly by Stan Twitter, which is mostly Western stans). These Twitter stans know the rumors aren't true, and just make up new rumors to hate him.
They even recently tried to trick ARMYs into thinking he hated Jin with fake tweets (he went viral for being Jin biased recently, so ARMYs want to support him), and that failed immediately because ARMYs are the best internet sleuths.
@@goldyd144 hiyyih seemed hated more for being someone's sister (which she can't do anything about either) than her race but I know what you mean.
And Jay isn't any idols relative so that makes me nervous. All he has to rely on in his voice.
I hope Jin fans vote for him cause I want Jay to debut SO badly! I might check out Jin's MV too.
I am of the opinion that everyone in Over Me deserves to get first place but if push comes to shove and we have to rank- Jay deserves better!
Also I just think the system of only showing selective scores/ranks is dumb. It skews the perception of viewers and makes contestants feel bad.
true true
Yeah it's absolutely unnecessary, last place doesn't even mean anything it just hurts feelings. First place as well, for example gyuvin placed first twice but both times that rank wasn't well received. It's just a tool for mnet to manipulate the votes in the direction they want. I've long stopped giving those placings meaning.
Yeah, I agree so much with you. Im not because Jay was the 5th, but because of the 430... just, how? No one in this team deserve such low points, especially cause Jay's vocals were perfect.
zhang hao's first evil edit and it's him being too nice 😭😭 also my guy ricky holds record of getting him/his whole team put in negative light every. single. round. like mnet are u that scared? also over me KILLED IT like every single one of them served, slayed, devoured. 100% deserved that win also I'm just so happy that kuanjui gets to go on mccoundown he deserves so much he and zihao have got this far purely because of their talent mnet don't even know of their existence
Some of you guys keep using the word ‘evil edit’ and I’m wondering if y’all even understand what that is. That was not MNET trying to evil edit Hao lol
@@AmiAki i know that it was just drama (just like that mathhew and smn) 💀the first line of my comment is obviously a joke... evil editing is what they did with mjx, zsb and krystian
still, people are now calling Hao a terrible leader and getting compared to jwoo.. they forgot that Hao was the leader of KTL G-group.. I'd still call it evil editing! 🙄
@@AmiAki he literally got hate because of this edit
Jay deserves to debut please 🥺 he really does deserve it . Mnet didn't even gave him proper screentime while singing too . I just want Mnet to regret everything 🙂
Jay does deserves better I was so sad this episode 😔 I also hope Seungeon survives cause I love his voice 😭
Thank you for speaking up for Jay. Jay deserved everything. Jay lost his confidence a lot, in the beginning you can see how Jay was excited to perform. Now he's just want to perform in the final. Over me evaluation and people's hate really broke Jay's heart.
the audience there must have been deaf or bribed because there's no way jay got last with such a huge difference in points
seeing jay lose confidence makes my heart ache. people need to stop hating on him. the other day i saw so many people on twitter calling him a horse just because he doesn’t fit the kbs- disgusting behaviour honestly
I'm not even kidding when I saw Jay ranking last I threw my laptop on the floor. It's still working but I was so upset 😡 😫 I swear to god that the audience must have loss their hearing because how was that possible 😔 😪
I really really hope Zhang Hao still is P02, because I do not need the fanwar and Knetz dropping him right before the finale. That is my nightmare. (Zhang Hao is my 1Pick) I do not need more trauma after GP999……
yeah zhang hao deserves top 2 at least
Yes- we don’t want a Xiaoting 2.0 situation… I know she still made it, but she almost didn’t and she should’ve won the entire show so if Zhang Hao drops dramatically at the end I’m gonna be pissed!
I am tellling you, Boys Planet is really exhausting me these days.
I always see people comparing Wang Zihao to Huening Bahiyyih, saying that if he debuts it would be as unexpected as here debut because they both get no screen time. Obviously I would love to see that again because we all love seeing Mnet's plans fail and because Zihao is a very good dancer.
BUT as a Hiyyihlight who was there during the aftermath of the finale, I can tell you that the suprise debut is only half of Hiyyih's story. The hate she got afterwards, people saying that she was talentless and didn't deserve to debut, that she deserved it the least out of everyone in the finale. I never want to see that again. None of the trainees deserves to suffer like that after working hard and going through the hell which is a Mnet survial show.
And this kind of hate is something I see targeted at Kim Gyuvin these days. It's the exact same but instead of Nepotism it's Pretty Privileges. And it makes me so sick. Sure, no one has to think that Kim Gyuvin performed the strongest in "En Garde". But some people can't express their opinion in a way that is not straight up hateful.
Sorry, I just had to rant. No one deserves to go through was Bahiyyih went through.
And Jay deservs better than to perform in front of an audiance with people who hate him. Another trainee who can be compared to Hiyyih too well. Why does everything have to happen again and again?
yeah people are messed up and bored to hate on them
I agree- but I feel like the Bahiyyih of the season is Ricky, he just recently made it into the Top 9 after the 2 elimination rounds and he gets minimal screen time. Plus, his fan base is mostly consisted of international one-pick fans who obviously fell for him before the show even started… but- I’m not complaining, he honestly should debut solely because of “Young and rich, tall and handsome” 😂🤣🤭😅🥹
The sad thing is if Ricky ends up taking a spot in the debut lineup from some one like Gyuvin, I just KNOW he’s gonna get hate for not being in the Top 9 from early on… I’m seriously worried for Keita, Ricky and Jay in that sense; and notice that they’re all G group trainees, cuz NO ONE was mad that Tae Rae and Gunwook went up to the Top 9 and they’re both from K group
@@hawkwing8840 I hadn't considered Ricky before but now that you said it, I cab see that the Hiyyih role really fits him as well.
There are just too many Bahiyyihs this season.
@@celinia5658 I KNOW- my answer has changed like 5 times… first it was Krystian, then Jiwoong, then Jay, then Ricky and most recently Zi Hao
As a Jongwoo stan I have had thoughts of everything between "he'll make it for sure because of x reason" and "there's not enough spaces, what if he's eliminated 😭". So now I'm just helplessly waiting for the eliminations episode to come so I can be put out of my misery : ) and finally end the anxiety of not knowing
youre just like me fr
Same, I go from thinking maybe he'll make it to the 9 to thinking there's no way he'll survive cause there are so many popular trainees. The way some people are so rude to him online doesn't help either. I need to just know before I have a breakdown.
his sister accidentally spoiled that hes still in the show after elims. so hes in the top 18 for now but who knows if he'll make it to the final 9 :(
@@user-tf4tp2qk8c really?? i’m happy but i didn’t know, is that true??
@@user-tf4tp2qk8c i just looked it up and the way she said it could mean both that he’s still there and that he got eliminated
since he can’t leave the dorms until the episode airs on thursday, her saying “be yourself there and then comeback after” could mean both stay there until thursday and then comeback, or stay on the show until the final and then comeback with the results
it literally doesn’t say anything about his position lmao
also she posted it before they even actually filmed the elimination episode, since she was watching ep 10 air and the elimination was filmed the day after
the little prince filler was too entertaining LIKE JONGWOO AND KEITA?? THEY DIDNT EVEN CARE😂 + keita beatboxing like go king 🤭
Even as someone very Zhang Hao biassed it's just a fact over me wouldn't be as good without Jay to sing all this perfectly. I even feel like Zhang Hao feels like this because he wasn't as excited to win in his team as he did in tomboy
he was hopeful though, he said it several times, he wanted to win and go to mca with his members.. the desperation is actually stronger this time rather than excitement
5:48 I'm not even a Jiwoong stan but seeing this part made me so happy because I can only imagine the mental and physical stress they're all under atp but he was so mature throughout this whole situation from how he asked Matthew to switch the parts but then also talked to him afterwards and validated his feelings about it.... Like he wasn't wrong in asking Matthew to switch parts or how he handled it but he still apologised and worded it so well... just UGHH he's so great as an older figure for everyone else, I really hope he debuts as the oldest + leader of the group ❤❤❤
ALSO THE GOLDEN CHILD SHOUTOUT AAAAAA SEUNGEON X JOOCHAN WHEN
I'm so glad they included that scene. I hate the editing that just leaves everyone's feelings up in the air and for speculation. They were both very mature in expressing their feelings and validating each other's point of view. It was an excellent big brother moment and a good lesson. I think it's really important to show the audience this conversation.
I really like seeing this side of Jiwoong too, I think he really suites being the oldest/leader because he can be silly and allow himself to be poked fun at, but he is also very mature and empathetic.
Yeah, I also think he express his ideas that are the best for the group, making ir clear to Mathew, but also taking care of Mathew feelings, I think is so good for the group debut. I didn’t like Him at first, because people were only voting for him for his visual, but now I can see his values as a person.
Yeah and Jiwoong also basically stood up for Seong who wanted the part but rather preferred everyone to be happy. I thought it was very admirable bc I’m sure he is very close to Matthew and who would WANT to jeopardize a friendship?
in jiwoong we trust
Praying everyday for Seowon P18 and Woongki P17 so we can have another Planet Camp tour 🤞 I also really liked the way they edited the performances with less reactions but then upload a specific one only with the trainees reactions cause it was really getting out of hands 🤡 At least Jay got some recognition from them …
manifesting woongki and seowon surviving
Legit my Top Picks are gonna get sliced in half this final elimination round and I’m super sad about it (I can’t see a world without Seo Won, Woongki and Seung Hwan in the finale) but I feel like they’re gonna get eliminated 🥲😩🥺
@@hawkwing8840 Noooooo we gotta keep hoping until the end 🥲
Also, gives these boys a hilarious reality show. I'd watch that in a hot second.
the dorms are going to be quiet without woongki and seowon
bruh jay’s literally been my fav since the rush hour performance for the star level test. he got like 0 screen time the entirety of the dual position battle episodes, and he wasn’t even the main vocal, and it was obvious that mnet was tryna show jongwoo more, and jay still stayed so close to the top 9. so i’m slightly confident that jay will debut but i just like his voice so much like he needs to debut. and i hope he doesn’t get discouraged with all the hate he gets, like he’s soo talented
Thank you for acknowledging Jiwoong's apology! I feel like you're the only person who has especially as he didn't need to because it was well in his rights to say what he said but I'm so glad he realised that what he said hurt someone else too.
I don't understand why people say Jiwoong didn't fit the concept- Sure he's more known for sexy concepts, but he was adorable in “Say My Name”... He didn't stick out the most; but he was perfectly fine.
Exactly! He’s got the class president vibe instead of the golden retriever schoolboy and it still totally fits ❤❤
please vote for him ♥
Fingers crossed that Over Me stage on MNET Countdown changes some minds about Jay.
thank u for defending jay. his entire career is on the line bc ppl are spreading misinformation and mindlessly hating. this is his last chance (his words) and he truly needs to debut, hopefully by the time he's officially debuted people will open their eyes and listen to the proof and move on. we don't need everyone to like jay, but to bully him is just wrong, especially when he's done nothing to deserve it. jay is a kind hearted and genuine guy. people tend to not focus on how much of a team player he is, he's extremely talented, hardworking and always does what's best for his team. without his vocals a lot of these performances would be lacking. his voice alone garners so much attention whenever a preview or teaser is released. so many waited for Over Me bc of how great jay made it sound in the teaser, but the rank was extremely disappointing and soooo unexpected. everyone was outraged and even the trainees were getting up from their seats in shock. its unfair and genuinely so upsetting how badly these malicious rumours are affecting his placement in this show (as well as his confidence and i can only assume, mental health.) y'all, please vote for jay..live voting on the 20th is important and we gotta work hard to make him debut, he deserves it so so so much. jays been working hard for years, let’s make all of his training worth it.
Jay is the reason I'm watching Boys Planet when I never intended to. It pains me how stupid people joined the dumb Jay Hate Train for fun and giggles. They are ruining his confidence and mental health, they are literally cyberbullies and look proud of it. To my fellow Jaystars and to whom may like to hear, please vote for Jay...
jay deserves every votes
as someone who is mainly on twt i genuinely thought for WEEKS that jay was probably a horrible person because of how much hate he gets, but ive searched so much and come to the conclusion that its literally all false but no one ever bothered to actually confirm the rumours. its so disgusting and toxic and is literally putting his entire career in jeopardy. i will admit i found some of his older clips cringey, but is that a crime? if he naturally got lower votes by not standing out to the audience then thats one thing but for him to get lower ranks because of unfounded hate trains is disgusting
Like I'm not even a fan of Jay, but he deserves better cause he doesn't deserve being paid dust by both mnet and the bepler fandom. I get people staying careful over the allegations, but he doesn't deserve hate
Vote for jay pls
About Haruto... I also don't see him making it into the top 9 cause he's lacking Korean votes but I'm manifesting! I know all about their fuss but still don't understand like... Who can overlook an all rounder polyglot who is also entertaining 😩
They're missing out!
I want him to be the Young Eun of this season but it probably won't happen because he isn't Korean.
@@kpoppy9635 exactly 😩😩
Thanks for emphasizing how unfairly MNet treated Jay. To everyone of us who likes and loves Jay's amazing voice, let's support and vote for him in this upcoming 1-pick voting (which will start on April 13 and end on April 20). Let's do what we can for Jay since KNets and MNet are not on his side. The only hope for him is the support that will come from international voters. Keep voting for Jay! Thank you!
yes jay deserves way better and thank you for watching
@@starxmon I always watch your weekly reviews regarding the new episode of BP.
Watched it yesterday completely ruined my Easter. Came to the conclusion it’s just a popularity contests because Jay is one of the best singers how could he get last place.
I like the ending theory ranking🤩 also Yes, Justice for Jay❤
thank you !!!
@@starxmon 🥰
I'm honestly so scared for Hui.
He has the one factor that most trainees don't have - ton of experiences producing amazing songs.
The line-up might have fuck ton of visuals, vocalists and dancers. But if the music production is bad, nothing positive is gonna come out.
Please vote for him. It breaks my heart to see him ranked so low.
I'm gonna be so sad if Zi Hao is eliminated, Haruto said he helped a lot for the Supercharger stage so I really don't want him out esp right after all that stress and hard work 😭😭
no one deserves to place last in over me team, cuz they all do their role so good
but when jay placed last, with THAT score. it makes me angry
My Opinions on the “Artist Battle” =
First Place : “Over Me” - Trainee #1 : Jay
This is the best song and even though all performances where mid, Jay stood out the most with his vocals and didn’t deserve last place; so I’m happy he still got the benefit.
Second Place : “Say My Name” - Trainee #1 : Matthew
Honestly- kinda iconic of Matthew to be so vocal about not wanting this part and still SLAYING THE ABSOLUTE FUCK OUT OF IT! Like, my eyes where ONLY on him for the ENTIRE TIME; sure it could’ve been cuz of the drama… but I still think he did the best
Third Place : “En Garde” - Trainee #1 : Hui
Similar case to Jay, I was so shocked by Hoe Taek’s vocals and I think he’s a little underrated. I know he poured his heart and soul into the performance, and sure; Gunwook definitely had the most impact in the dance but I got sick of it since I’ve seen it so many times…
Fourth Place : “Supercharger” - Trainee #1 : Haruto
C’mon! It’s the ONLY option… but honestly, Haruto went through so much and for a performance filled with 2 babies, 3 bottoms and a token straight; they kinda did the damn thing…
Fifth Place : “Switch” - Trainee #1 : Park Hanbin
This performance was just so bland and I was super surprised since it seemed like this group was STACKED (I mean- you got Keita, PHanBin, Tae Rae, Jong Woo, Kamden) so that’s why it’s last…
i understood who the 3 bottoms are so that means the straight one in the supercharger team is wang zihao 🤣
@@hemannyra Ding Ding Ding 😂
@@hemannyra idk how far I can believe this given the contents of haruto's comment under his fancam😬😂
Haruto and zihao literally came to supercharger and made it such that everyone could work with it🤌
Park Hanbin needs to debut he is so extremely talented and kind. 🙏🏼
Personally I wanted Matthew to place first in Say My Name he completely suited the concept and was the first fancam I went to watch.
He definitely has the most natural cuteness to him and the way he executed some of the choreography was really nice.
Not upset at Hanbin winning but the standouts imo were Matthew and Seungeon
I also heard that it was really hard to hear the singing while they were performing which kinda explains why Jay got last… but not why he got such a low score
please vote for Jiwoong. we need a good leader and I like him beeing under 2000 line ♥ thank you ♥
Jay and Kamden robbed
Meanwhile me: * cries in Wang Zihao *
Well they never wanted him anyway
If he gets e worded it's their loss
Right there with you 😞 I've been voting for him but I doubt he is popular in SK
I NEED hui back in the top 9!! Seeing him at eleven keeps stressing him out.
He's my one pick.
im sorry, he's not even at eleven right now, phanbin is.. 😭
He need to be there for bepler to have good songs🔥🔥
I need either Hui or Jay in the line up (both is perferable but probably not)...and what cracks me up is that knetz want neither.
@@flaggov6949 mine too
thank u for the golden child shoutout T_T i hope they have korean cb soon!
i hope seunghwan and wang zihao make it thru eliminations!!
btw ive been watching ur recap videos since gp999, thanks for ur hard work!
i am dying for a golcha comeback
@pandamon514 same here, I need more Golcha in my life 😭
Please Wang Zihao and Seunghwan are my top 2 if they don't make it I am going to be SO devastated 😭😭😭
it’s most likely Chen kuanjui gets eliminated this round but I’m praying so hard he pulls through to the finals he’s so talented
He's been one of my top picks since the beginning and gosh, so underappreciated 😭
@@javi_blinkuniverse right?? I can’t believe people aren’t recognizing his talents when they’re clearly right there
Jay should’ve won i swear
Want zihao needs to make it he’s too talented to let go😭
jay looks so depressed :(( I hope he’s okay
I unfortunately need to correct you regarding Seunghwan ranking as he's not climbing the rank, au contraire, each week since the beginning he has been losing positions. I truly hope he won't be eliminated as he's in my top 9 but I'm starting to lose hope... I'm honestly also worried about Jiwoong because of all the stupid spoilers/speculations I see in tiktok regarding the ranking in which he's number 10 or has dropped etc, like HELL NO. Again the Jay situation is ridiculous, it's obvious Mnet doesn't want him in Bep1er and this sabotage thing is going too far.
WHAT?! Jiwoong in 10th?! I'd seriously die if that where the case- I'm also shocked that MNET switched up so quickly with Jay... In the beginning, it seemed like they let us know right off the bat that the only 3 G-group trainees they wanted in the group where Zhang Hao, Matthew and Jay. So after the second mission where he got overshadowed it seemed like they just forgot about him. But they also just treat G-group so weirdly too because they just evil edited Matthew and are somehow still allowing Keita to stay in the Top 9 when they don't seem to care about him at all... I'm just hoping the One-Picks come through in the finale. 🤧🥹😭🫠🥺
The title of this video tho 😭 that really was the main take away from this episode at least for me. Im tired of all the Jay slander and mnet skipping over him.
Still rooting for WANG ZIHAO to make it to the top 18. A Main Dancer of the group can't look better than he. The # of views in his fancams can show how likeable he is and is still growing on people. Lack of screentime (deliberately done, I suppose) hampered his popularity plus the fact that he got sick and was not included in the HERE I AM video. Looking forward to his future performances.
loud and correct, as usual
People need to recognize Wang Zi Hao existance rn. I cannot blame you guys for not putting him on your top picks obv bc you don't know him well bc of mnet editing. He got the least amount of screen time in any possibly way of editing. But trust me he is the 'Dark Horse' in this show. He shine only through only perf. & people can see that. His perf. didn't lie & that is a 100% pure talent if you ask me. Plus, That's why his indv fancams got some of the highest views out of all. You know why? Bc of his impact got people is curious about this mysterious boy. This is the same person that YougJun the Star Master had dare him to go on Street Man fighter show & this is the boy that PGunwook & Keita admire. He has no drama, multi talented (the best dancer among trainees) , humble, always smilling, hardworking by taking dance class regularly on weekends, and has a very friendly & bubbly personality. So mnet hate that.
Mark my words, even if he cant debut in the final idol lineup, he can be more succsessful in the future. He has a strong fanbase & a lot of people trust his capibilities especially the mentors & professionals. Look, he is now under training with Trix (world's no. Krump dancer). He has gotten better w his Korean & a lot of opportunities will come to him. Mnet will be on their knees by missing a gem like him in this industry.
Wang Zihao needs to make it atleast to the finals, I feel like 3 pick system overshadowed him a lot, besides he was the only low rank trainee that got 100% support everytime, he also has the highest fancam views, that too without any screentime from msnake. 😔 Our hardworking angel Wang Zihao💗
ive been stressed OUT for a week. doesnt help that my picks are keita and jongwoo i have no clue wtf is gonna happen. super glad phanbin is no 11 rn coz hes my third pick but he deserves to be in debut lineup imo. also for the first time in a survival show ive watched, the number of dozens are incredibly low (basically just takuto, i love him though) so the idea of literally anyone being eliminated is breaking my heart.
En Garde was my favorite performance! Thanks for the review!
This group doesn’t deserve jay. He would be more successful outside of the mnet bubble
Jay was so robbed like why was he last place? I was so confused he did so well. I'm happy that over me team won though.😊
Its not about being last 😭😭 but the score that they purposely did the one in question
Hahaha I’m glad that I’m not the only one theorizing and overanalyzing the ranks, especially 17th & 18th place. I need Seunghwan to make it
Seunghwan has to make it
TAKUTO WITH THE FOX EARS IS CUTE IM CRYING
HE IS SO BABY
@@starxmon IKR??
I have a few different opinions about the ranking. First, I'm fairly certain Chen Kuanlui joins the trainees you put as certainly eliminated because I just don't see him making it, if you look at the score for the previous round, the 250 000 benefit Phanbin got only made him rise above Ricky so... one place. Is one place enough to really change things? Next Taerae, I'm 99.99% sure he didn't fall, he's a lot of people favourite and if you see the live audience, his name is everywhere, I think he can only rise. What's interesting is that Kim Gyuvin was shown 16 and you still put him 7, I think them leaking his fall will make him rise to 12-13 max. I think he fell for a reason, he's a filler vote and that means getting back up is harder then that. I would switch Gyuvin and Taerae, Jay and Jun Hyeon maybe and I think Haruto is lower, Shanbin is still first. And I think ZIhao and Haruto are the ones that will make it but barely, Jeonghyeon became really popular in SK so if Ifans don't have him below 25, he could make it. I think Jongwoo is gone with last episode and Woongi boy, Seunghwan and Kamden are the biggest idk for me.
Other then that I'm so happy for Phanbin, he went down one place last episode at 14th and I felt like it was too close to 18th for comfort. I don't get how he's not in the Top 9 but somehow, I feel like him getting in it now would only make me sadder if he doesn't get in, in the final lineup.
I feel like jongwoo is safe, so is jeonghyeon, as mnet has been trying to push jeonghyeon a lot, most G trainees won't make it to the finals 😔
I just pray everyday that Woonggi makes it and also Seowon, like without them the show is going to be soooo boring, and the fact that Haruto is also at risk??? people hate having fun I guess
I think lee jeonghyeon is gonna survive. He got a large Korean fanbase and 1pick voters. In the previous episode he was shown rank 14 , he literally jumped 10 spots.
Justice for Jay
Btw- I just love your vids, I wait for them religiously after every episode airs ❤😊🫶🏼😌🫣🤭
aww thanks, this means alot
Yeah I don’t really care much about the show but I like your recaps😂. Like watching with a friend.
Jay makes people nervous about/threaten their biases. Fact. K-nets are a HUGE problem and are f'ing up his ranking.🤬‼
I’m a fan of FM fam, Jays company, and Jay getting all this hate seems so unreasonable. He’s an amazing vocalist even though he takes a second to learn the dance. If you listen to his solo music he’s amazing. Honestly though I don’t want him to debut via Boys Planet purely because I want him to debut with Beomhan
I think ur survivor list is very realistic although I really don’t know if the team benefit will be enough to keep kuan jui in the competition… realistically speaking I would fill in his spot jongwoo or even Lee jeong Huron who mnet has been highlighting for the past epsiode. I am an avid Lee seunghwan supporter and I don’t even think he will survive either. Although I would want him too…
I think Jay being last is not really shocking as every member of the Over Me team were really good, but to me I was truly surprised about the HUUUUGE gap in the scores between Zhang Hao and him so yeah that's not good to see.
This thing reminds me of Soyeon in MTG who scolded the audience voting because honestly, this score can't be that low if it wasn't related to the dramas
musical segment: existing so we can see trainees acting potential
mnet: gives 90% screentime to haobin
💀i think mnet has peaked in being a haobin fan
I definitely hear you. The oldest in the over me team is like 4 years younger than me so I just couldn’t see them that way lol 😂 but they did great! Their vocals were on point, especially Jay! And the choreography was done really well too!
Vote Zhang Hao and Jay y’all 🙏🏽
Here’s an honest perspective from someone who simply watches the show & doesn’t use twitter:
1) Fans give too much attention to haters.
2) Fans get easily swept up by everything.
For example there’s a “Jay was robbed” train that people jumped on. It’s giving mixed signals bc it’s focusing on and adding to the negativity. Some fans are even taking this opportunity to hate or undermine the other trainees.
Imagine if instead people had focused on showing support instead of being mad that he got the lowest score (which really didn’t matter bc it’s only the opinion of a few hundred people in the audience? Let the next elimination results prove to Jay that he has ppl rooting for him by voting him). Imagine if fans instead started and jumped on a “we love you Jay” train or something. It could’ve been light, supportive, and positive, & it would’ve 100% garnered more support for Jay.
It escalated to an internal fanwar fueled by Keita's hard carry statement. 😂😂
To me “Over Me” was the best song- but the performance was just mid… I think Zhang Hao did well as always, but nothing special. I feel like Ricky was a bit unstable and his vocals where low volume, Kuan Jui only stood out in the dance break with Zhang Hao and Jeong Hyeon only stood out in his rap. Jay in my opinion was the only consistent one and his vocals made the entire song
justice for jay !!!
That bridge into the final chorus gives me goosebumps every time and I start levitating. People forget that just because it’s a performance, doesn’t mean that only the dancing matters- sure it’s definitely the most important part, but especially in this performance; Jay was the one to stick out for me because of his vocals. And some are trying to justify Jay’s last place ranking by saying that he’s “too awkward” with the movements and not confident enough. What they fail to see is that sure, he isn’t the best dancer in the show or in that group, but he can still keep up unlike people like Tae Rae who had to have the choreography altered so that he could just move around and he STILL couldn’t do it well in the rehearsals
I still think “Over Me” was the best and deserved it’s win… I just feel like every performance was mid-to-low in quality; idk- maybe we saw too much of them rehearsing or the pre-released clips of the performances just spoiled it for me because “En Garde” and “Say my Name” where just so predictable to me that they had no impact at all
@@starxmon I’m just praying he goes up in the ranking for this final survivor announcement with the One-Pick voting strategy and the benefit… I see a lot of people saying that he’s gonna go even more down in the ranking like 13-14 and if that’s true, I’m not even sure if I could have faith for the finale. I see a lot of support for him and so many One-Picks but somehow they don’t reflect in the rankings which is so strange 🧐🤨🥺😭😩😤
@@hawkwing8840 omg yess so true
Is the hate train on jay still going on?! I thought it calmed down a little bit. I don’t understand why they are hating on jay when all he does is serve us heavenly vocals. And I saw that the head of jays agency released an official statement regarding all the rumors about jay saying that they aren’t true, so why would there still be hate? I’ve been on the jay love train since before boys planet and all he does is spread positivity I don’t understand why people don’t like him 😭😭😭
The hate train is still going.. esp on twitter
@@mcqelle I don’t understand why though like it’s proven false… what more do they need for them to stop hating on him????
Opinions on this episode (very long) :
- Over Me performance was mid tbh, it didn't meet my expectations as the "main event" but the song slaps anyways
- Jay carried the song with his vocals no matter what the haters said and was absolutely ROBBED, Zhang Hao too with his center position and that dance break 🤯
- I don't think Jiwoong fits that much in Say My Name (he looked like a filler to me but not awkward while performing though), it just makes me upset he got to stay in SMN over Seo Won, Woongki or Taerae who fit the song much better imo
- SMN was literally made for Seungeon, idc what y'all say (his little backpack omg)
- Park Hanbin deserves to be in Bep1er, he's an all-rounder with leadership, I can see him becoming the "dark horse" of this season
- Solji is the best master of Boys Planet (not creepy and not too harsh with the trainees)
For the rankings, I have a few predictions :
- Sung Hanbin will stay 1st, maybe a smaller gap with the 2nd
- Zhang Hao will also stay 2nd, with the benefit and his loyal fanbase growing, I can see him maintaining his rank
- Gyuvin will be out of the Top 9, he indeed dropped to 16th during the interim check but he would eventually rise a little bit (because his fans who dropped him will revote for him) but he will not return to the Top 9
- Ricky will enter the Top 9 I think (maybe 8th or 9th ?), the interim check doesn't seem to have affected his voters (at least in his international fanbase)
- Gunwook and Taerae will also stay in the Top 9, I'm less confident for Gunwook but Taerae has a solid Korean fanbase I think so he'll stay in Top 9
- Half of the G group is going to be eliminated this time (Zihao, Kamden and Haruto are in a dangerous position currently)
- Hui will not return in the Top 9 and will be in 14th/15th place
- I'm ABSOLUTELY WORRIED about Seunghwan, he's constantly dropping in ranks and might get eliminated this time
Thank you for reading this :)
RIGHT? I thought every performance was mid honestly, but Jay’s vocals made the entire song and performance the best overall and I feel like he’ll get back in the Top 9 or close in this final elimination round
Boys planet is the best male show tbh
Stan zb1!
0:44 Ph1 isn't problematic either, but he has so little screen time that you forgot him😂😭
noooo, do I just have a poor fashion style? :( I really loved the outfits of Switch, it is actually my favorite...
i loved the connection you made between say my name and golcha, it really reminds me of their early stuff
Gahh i miss golcha they still are one of my fave boy groups
I'm here after reading the title and hell you're right. I don't trust anything atm... I do like many trainees but my main focus is JAY. And it will continue to be him always.
I think you're overestimating Gyuvin and underestimating Taerae in terms of ranking. Gyuvin might have a shot for the top 9 when it comes to one pick, but I think it would be hard to rise back up now when half the voting period already happened before his interim ranking was revealed. And Taerae is super popular among Koreans so I don't think he's dropping out.
Taerae is no.2 for Korean votes. He's got LYW's vibe that's why the GP like him so much.
Haobin seems to be getting stronger every episode and it’s hurting me. I need my Matthew and Hanbin content 😂
haha i miss mattbin
If Seowon, Woonggi and Seunghwan end up fighting for 18th like imma fkn die
Your ranking was a dream, oh how I wished... I'm devastated that Haruto and Chen Kuan Ji was eliminated...
ZIHAO IS GONNA BE SAFE THANK YOU
I liked seeing your hypothesis ranks at the end!
thank u for watching 💝
"Basically Woonggi but make it 2nd gen" AHAHAHA
I m with zi hao
Zi hao fighting ❤❤❤❤