How I Relic a Poly Finish Guitar
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I hope this video is informative for anyone who would like to relic there poly finish guitar. :) 
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This guys the most underrated RUclipsr on the whole of the milky way
Thank you very much. : )
Yep.
Dave Simpson no need for a thanks:) you really are
Some xenomorph jimi hendrix : am I a joke to you?
We're a curious bunch. Particularly us Strat lovers. 'We' discovered way back that if you wedge a matchstick or whatever in between the 3 way switch then it would sound awesome. So Fender duly obliged and made the 5 way as standard. But people are now often wanting 3 ways for that "true vintage" experience. Nitro wore away and gave us the once "ugh I'm not playing THAT battered heap o' junk" recoils of disgust. So Fender duly obliged by offering the hard wearing Poly finishes that is hard as nails and lasts forever. But, oh no, some of us don't want that. No, we want to go back to Nitro so it wears away easily. Or if we're 'forced' to have Poly then do our best to "bash it up" as Mr Simpson is so eloquently demonstrating here. Or we simply shell out many thousands of pounds or dollars or whatever currency you slave away to earn and let a Custom Shop Master Builder make us a wrecked one at more money than if we order the exact same guitar with the exact same pick ups, fretboard, hardware etc... and end up getting a brand spanking new one. Yes. A brand new pristine one. For less money than a battered up "old" one!
Yep. We're a curious bunch.
That we are. Theres nothing more odd than human beings. : )
sorry ding dong poly finish came on scene due to cost and finish time......had nothing to do with what people wanted.... lacquer takes tons of time comparitely also EPA filtering air and other issues brought about poly...came from industry outside of guitar world.. fender was looking for cheap fast finish and other cost and time saving measures
@@thedavesimpson there’s nothing more odd than a musician.
I have to admit, as much as i love a new guitar, i pamper it too much. When i play on a relic, tho, i feel like i can 'have my way with it more', thrash it about, drag it downstairs and sling it in the backseat without thinking about treating it tenderly: it becomes a tool to be used to play with and experiment with. Crazy? Yeah. But a relic(ed) guitar just feels more like a comfy pair of jeans, and I just want to play the strings off it.
You really summed it up
That intro man 😮 Absolutely love it!! Very pink floyd-ish. Great playing as always my friend!
Even the bum note
Nice “Maggot Brain”-style intro. It was so nice, I forgot all about relic guitars.
Thank you very much. : )
I love relic jobs and I love guitars naturally getting beat to shit. I dig both.
we need more people like you. your perspective is fair and proper which we dont see much anymore
It's now crying out for a nice set of aged pickup covers and knobs! (Or you could try soaking them in tea ... )
steveteb oddly enough, some of the new plastics resist that. I had a set of covers and knobs I soaked in coffee grounds with a bit of water for like three weeks and the knobs came out a really good cream color, but the covers were still stark white🤦♂️
@@zerohourdrift I work with leather and just for shits and giggles I tried tan leather dye (water based too) on my strat, works a treat! Apply leave for a minute then wipe. If you want it darker reapply and wipe again. Keep doing it till you get the colour you want. Works on scratch plates too to make it look dirty and worn. Use with 0000 steel wool for best wear results.
Coffee+curry powder. Works every time. Go heavy on the curry lol
Dude… this was insanely helpful, it’s giving me the confidence to try this on my G&L Legacy. Thanks sooo much!!
I love love LOVE the part about not putting seeds of doubt in someone's mind once they've reliced their guitar.
It really is actually not on. That.
Nice one man :)
Thank you Dave, your magical and technical talents makes me happy and answer my questions!
You are a Master!
Thank you very much. : )
Newly subscribed to your channel, great videos, funny and informative... Oh and you're guitar playing is incredible, from the heart.. Keep it up dude!!! ✌️
Brilliant! Thanks for sharing your personal technique, very generous. This is helping me a ton with my current project. Cheers from LA :)
Epic performance! I saw little ballerina dancers holding torches at night on the summer solstice. That doesn’t just happen
Great Intro Dave!It's your guitar and you can do whatever you like to it,congrates on 46k,Cheers.
Thank you very much. : )
This video came at the perfect time! I just got a Harley Benton strat for the express purpose of trying to relic it. I'm glad to see that it can be done, and on pretty much the same model, to boot. I'm really looking forward to the video on the fretboard wear.
Thank you very much for watching and good luck with your relic. : )
Excellent playing, LOVE the effects. At one point I thought of Porcupine Tree, and that's a compliment. Nice work, man.
I love your playing, this makes me feel as good as listening to the division bell!
Right on, Dave... freedom of artistic expression! You bought it, you paid her Majesty's tax, you own it, you do it! Looks and sounds fabulous- the Harley Benton, if not mistaken.
I was going to message you on facebook about this 😂 now I'll watch the video
Would never relic one of my top end guitars but have recently aged a cheaper Tele style guitar. Loved the style and playability but it was all wrong in the attempted factory antique finish. 1200 grit sandpaper and a joiners pencil had the gloss down to a Matt Finnish where it counted and the lead added the discolouration to the neck, fingerboard and wear points on the body. Tip is to use a sharp blade to scrape the lead and create a dust coating over the area to be worked. This gives a nice even coat and prevents the pencil lines. Strangely a very satisfying process for me but appreciate it’s not for everyone.. 👍🇦🇺🐨
i came for a relic, but got a beautiful ambient dream moment
Crikey Dave that intro! I came to hear about relicing a dodgy old tele that I picked up. I haven’t got to that part yet and just totally inspired by your playing (again). Top job
Damn it Dave , everytime i watch and listen to you play I'm just totally blown away , love it
Thank you very much. : )
A bit of steve rothery in the intro. I like it how you get vintage bluesy tones with a hint of 80's in there. You Sir are a player.
Thank you very much. : )
Hi Dave, you did a great job with this guitar. *There are some great tips in your video*. To relic or not to relic - it's up to the individual. Personally, I feel most people take off too much paint from arm wear against the body - which makes the relic job look fake. Sometimes "less is more". Peace everyone 🙏
Dave, lovely playing at the start, you are truly gifted. I'll comment later on the relicing, no problem with it, done it a few times.
Thank you very much. : )
Brilliant intro, Dave. Your fingers are touched by the guitar gods.
Thank you very much. : )
I have two guitars, a shiny new looking Poly finish American Special Tele and a closet classic semi-relic’d MIJ Strat. For some reason, I play the Strat more and have a more organic and soulful approach musically. Being inspired visually is one thing, but the feel of a “used” guitar, vintage or relic’d, is special to me. We obviously can’t all afford vintage Strats.
Awesome playing in the intro, and great info on relicing. BTW the first time you came into shot with those goggles ...Dave, that's my YT moment of the year.....classic :)
Thank you very much. : )
I've got a factory relic in a Vintage VS6 (SG) reissue. Not a bad job, not too over the top on the body. The tuners are rusty looking and pick up covers are slightly pitted. But by god it's the best guitar I've ever played. Such a nice neck. And the pick ups sound awesome too.
Was it just me or did anyone else forget that they clicked to learn how to relic a poly finish? Haha
Beautiful playing as always Dave. Keep up the fantastic work ❤
is there a way to tell the "Can relic Poly" and "Don't waste Time Type Poly" ??
Thickness or luck of the draw
My Great Grandpa used to have a bunch of Gibsons, Fenders, etc. Acoustics, Electrics, Banjos. He would route sections out of them and install gemstones that he thought looked good. My Dad would get pissed and ask him why he's ruining his guitars. Great Grandpa said "It's mine. If I want to take it outside and drag it around the driveway, I'll do that." I never got to meet him, but that story carried over to me through my Dad and I use that example as my baseline for how I modify and interact with all of my possessions. Screw anyone who has a problem with it. Buy your own and keep it locked up without any dings on it.
The old photos of him with all of his guitars makes me drool. I only ended up with an original 1960 DuoSonic which I'll never complain about. Some guy came by after he died and scammed my Great Grandma out of his guitars. She had no idea they were worth significantly more than she sold them for, even with his 'modifications.' They got some even older civil war muskets off of her too.
Came here to figure out how to mess up my brand new Mexican Strat but ended up getting so much more. The first 15min of this video was absolutely beautiful brotha thanks for that addition!
Whoooo calm down there son! That intro has such an amazing tone! Of course, great playing too but the tone! Wow, just wow!
Thank you very much. : )
hey - great videos Dave. Any chance you can provide some insight into relic of a gold anodized scratchplate, such as the one in this video? Thanks so much
Dave you're the man!
Beautiful work
Thanks Dave. Loads of memorable chsracter :) UK swag next level.
This is a fantastic video. I’m preparing to relic a squier affinity I have.
Apologies if this has already been asked but it is possible to stain the clear poly with anything other than graphite e.g. shoe polish?
Yep it is.
Amazing technique and definitely looks much better than trying to go down to the wood! I think poly relicing can look pretty decent as long as it's fairly light. I wouldn't try going for an SRV relic with poly since the wood would just look too clean. But something like John's fiesta red strat would be definitely doable.
I wonder if you could mimic checking by using a razorblade and actually drawing out the cracks yourself on the guitar like how gibson does it. Add some brown shoepolish and that might be a really decent poly relic job.
I have a modern player strat with a poly finish in silverburst that I just used to smash about and then when it had a fair few chips in it I sanded it down like never before so now you can see the black fading through to the silver and then the wood, it's not amazing and I can see why some people don't bother trying to relic poly guitars, but I love it to pieces. Cheers for this dave been looking for a guide that doesn't disregard poly guitars for a while now xo
Thank you very much. : )
do player series strat have like that thicc poly or do they have it like the one you showed in this video
another stunning intro and on the HB ...just great
Thank you very much. : )
Great Intro! Your style of soloing reminds me strongly of Chris Oliva from Savatage. Very inspiring and captivating!
Holy lord, that intro music is siiiiiiick!!!! 😭 I would buy an album of that right now!
I´m not into relicking myself although I like the finger wear on my Tele fretboard but each to their own. The pattern on the back of yours reminds me of a Tudor sailing ship, cool!
Same really, I like it the natural way where the finish gets worn down or dinged naturally.
That guitar looks and sounds fantastic. Sweet playing too!
Thank you very much. : )
Hell yeah awesome job
Hi! Great video! I have question about tremolo. Did you replace trem or maybe sustain block? If yes, which model did you use? Thanks!
I didn’t replace it no.
in all truth your my favourite guitarist you make your guitars sing in the right places fantastic you have a rare skill
Thank you very much. : )
Nice mate! Gonna try this
The Mexican roa d worn guitars look more authentic than custom shop to me
your videos are double value one we get to hear you play then we get to talk about cool stuff dude I talk about you all the time over here in America you're one of my favorite RUclipsrs...
How do you like that start after this time Dave?
Hi Dave! How did you go about the back of the neck? 😮
So does the pencil rub off or does it stay? Loved your video def earned a subscriber!
Loved the Intro!
love you dave
Nice relic bro. But how to make color look old? What liquid you use it? I want my guitar like frusciante white stratocaster. That color is look so old. I want like that
Hello Dave, as usual thank you for the video! Few questions if you dont mind :
- do you carve the clear coat at some spot to look like wood? During the video it seems you carve some areas?
- how did you do for the back of the neck? I’ve got a Harley strat too from this year and the finish just won’t go so i can’t tint it...
- Did you change the trem block?? yours seems thicker than mine!
thanks ! Big fan of you Sir!
I don't carve the clear coat no. I just scrape away the top layer of finish.
I used a knife to scrape away the poly lacquer then used the same knide to re carve the neck.
I haven't changed anything on the guitar no.
Thank you very much indeed and thanks for watching. : )
@@thedavesimpson Thank you Dave! It is strange that your trem block is way thicker than mine (I've got the harley benton ST-62 sunburst), I thought it was supposed to be the same guitar, but apparently it is not !
That intro was insane !!!!
If you get down to the clear coat, could you do a Colortone nitro spray over it, just to give it a slight vintage amber tint?
Probably.
Can you be more clear, should anti relicer's watch or not I dont think you were clear enough 😅
what pedal was used for the backing track in the intro jam? sounded amazing
Its called particle verb from the line 6 hx effects.
just wondering what was the vox board you was using there dave,
I was using a Line 6 HX and a Vox silver top wah. : )
God I luv your playing dude wow
best guitar freak on youtube!!! like you
Why dont you dye the clearcoat so it looks more worn insted of shiney?
Dave, I have a huge question now , the bullet strat Brown sunburst could be relic?
If yes how to get to the wood? as we see the wood through the paint.
Because I really think I'm gonna take a bullet strat for JF and Hendrix play style.
And I was wondering if in a future I could relic it as nearly the JF 62 strat.
Thank you so much for making awesom videos, I'm always travalling on your channel and all the videos are like great journey in my life.
huge thank you
I wouldn't bother relicing it to be honest.
Dave. What pedal board are you using in this clip. Thanks for your time. Jeff
I have a video on my pedal board. Its barely ever changed for years. :)
I don't like relicing, but I watch these for a learning experience. It's starting to change my opinion on the whole subject.
i believe its each to their own,,,,,,,however why not just play the guitar and let it gracefully age through your playing,,,,,,,, as long as everyones happy it doesnt really matter, god bless guitars man :)
@@feiz01 because guitars finished with poly urethene will NOT relic naturally. Nitro wore down naturally, but you can play a poly finished guitar for 80 years and it could still look fresh
Great playing man! You and me are on the same Gilmourish/Bucketheadish page when it comes to playing. Great job. I’d happily pay for a full album made up of music like your intro.
What song was that and what album is it on?
I'm pretty sure his stuff is just him jamming
Really nice ! I plan to do this on my newly acquired MIJ strat that is already quite beaten up. A question : what kind of knife is this ? It seems hard to find one that is small, sharp and comes with a thick blade. If you ever have the reference of it or something similar , please drop it :)
Thank you very much and the knife its just an ordinary off the shelf craft/hobby knife. : )
I know this is an old comment but I think they're called an "exacto" knife.
What pedalboard are u using on this video? Sounds amazing!
I forget. Sorry.
Well said, and yes, online courtesy is important. It’s a reflection of civility.
Hi Dave, love the relic job :)Question; if you could only have 3 pedals, which would you choose?
Thank you very much.
I would have my zoom g2.1u, vox silver top wah and a boss ds2. : )
Thanks for the reply : you really an awesome dude. Love your channel and listening to your awesome playing just blows me ol' troubles away. THANK YOU and all the best for you
great playing man, nice song
Thank you very much. :)
In some parallel universe where Dave never picked up a guitar he’s watching this video yelling at the guy ruining perfectly good guitar’s
That would mean that youtube would be watchable through that portal that connects our worlds lol. Mind blowing.
Hi Dave, great vid, am about to relic a Sunburst P Bass copy in poly👍👍👍
Good on you Dave!
Awesome Video Dave! Thank You! Would it be possible to rub some wood stain onto the clear coat?
It is possible yep.
@@thedavesimpson alright thank you for your answer:)
Absolutely loved your disclaimer to all the relic haters out there. Honestly couldn't agree more!
Thanks soo much dave, I’ve been waiting for a good video on this topic for ages!
Thank you. : )
great video thanks,ive got a vintage v6 laguna blue that im thinking about relicing!
Thank you very much. : )
Would I use wire wool or scotch brite to dull poly black finish to make it look satin?
Wire wool.
Watching your intro's " For free " just has to come crashing down sooner or later. But, until that happens. It's fantastic Dave...
Thank you very much. : )
I've noticed on my 2003 squire Strat Affinity Series sunburst made in China it has some plectrum wear
By any chance, does anyone know if the little powdery stuff coming from chipping the finish is toxic? Just curious.
Nice to hear that. Looks like the sound from the space... Something in the save vibe of "23 Go In To End" of John.
Thank you very much. : )
Thanks for this. I know it’s a year old but I just decided to “build” (put together) my first Strat and I want to relic it, and it came with a poly finish. 🥲. Now I think there’s a chance! Thanks again!
Awesome Dave. Did you mention how you did the back of the neck? I may have missed it.
Thank you and i didn't cover it in the video but what i did was recarve it with a knife.
I slowly took the wood down bit by bit. :)
Cool! Just ordered some hobby knifes.. gonna try to go at a Squire that's been sitting around the house for years. Can't wait! Thanks for the help
I have a real cheap sx strat and i accidentally dropped it once so should i relic it
I know it’s an old video but I have pristine and relic guitars. I love relic or even my old ones with normal dings as you aren’t as precious with them. You just pick them up and don’t care 🙂 each has its place.
Earlier I used to "dislike" the electric guitars with relicing... recently I find myself wanting to own one. Interesting how things change.
Good Man!!!!!
Could you advise how you relic'd your pullover?
Play guitar for hours an hours. :)
Brilliant intro 👍🔥🎸
Thank you very much. : )
What VOX WAH is that Dave? I hate my Cry Baby 535Q it's so bad! A month in and it feels like the slide mechanism needs a serious amount of lube if you know what i mean.
Its just the silver top one. V847 or something like that. :)
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