Right so I'm not allowed to watch things at 1.25x speed because "it destroys muh art" but no one has problems with ads breaking up the show pacing 20 times in a hour. Hypocrites.
@@josh44026 But when you watch movies traditionally on free-to-air TV, you get ad breaks that break the flow of movie. How is that different to speeding up a show, hence 'hypocrite'
@@josh44026 it's a generalized issue not a Netflix only issue. That would be stupid. If you are going to complain about your vision not being seen how you intended it should be applicable to ALL mediums
to be fair, watching anything on regular tv is a compromise, you should go to the cinema/buy/stream/pirate for the actual experience, and adding 1.25 to Netflix is giving the option to worsen the experience. I love options and I'm not against its implementation, but there is a discussion to be had on how it influences first-time viewers who wouldn't get the creator's vision because of it, and what could be done about it. I feel like tucking things like this away in some folder of an options menu with a pop up explaining that you shouldn't use it is a good step. Nothing stops you from using it if you want to, but the viewing experience wouldn't be spoiled as easily.
@@zeratulrus142 But my point is that basically all TV shows are made for TV, and those that get DVD releases don't do so until well after the show has aired, yet none of these creators give a fuck because they are hippocrites who like to find any reason to hate Netflix. These same people should also be banning anyone with an old or bad TV too, because color balance and being able to see what's happening is far more important than the speed that it's viewed at, but again, they don't care, because those people are putting money directly into their pockets. What Netflix wants to do is offer consumers quality of life at no charge, and to these people that simply will not do.
What about lowering the resolution? At 144p, the content isn’t “how the creator intended” Should people with lower internet connection speeds be revoked of the opportunity to watch a show because it’s “incorrect”?
Yo! I hate Netflix so much regarding this aspect. IT decides what resolution you will watch the movie/series based on what the internet speeds look like. I have 500mbps internet connection but Netflix still loads the content in 480/720p. even though I can stream 4k on my connection no problem. Just add a resolution button so I can choose ffs.
As someone who is partially colorblind, I have to crank up the color vividness a decent amount to enjoy movies. Imagine if directors and actors were mad about that and forced me to watch it how "they" intended... It would look bad to me. So yeah, let people do what they want.
I don't really understand this? Surely it'll still look the same to you as it would if you seen it in real life? You see everything through the colour blindness 'filter', so how does cranking up vividness make it look better?
@@lost4468yt my partial colorblindness results in a red deficiency, not a total loss of color. This means reds and red-toned colors look less vivid to me due to the nature of how my eyes perceive the color overlap. So, turning up the "pop" of colors makes the colors more apparent to me, whereas normally, things look a touch bland. This is how those colorblind glasses work. They're essentially boosting the color of what you're looking at. Or so I've been told, as I've never tried them.
@@lost4468yt making the picture "accurate" to my real life vision is not the desired outcome. I never said my personal calibrations were for accuracy. It's to get the color pop and the appeal that I hear others talk about and say "wow, look at those colors".
@@BradJohannsen Ahh ok, because I personally consider that forced colour pop you get with vivid to be much worse. On my LG C8 OLED when the director actually *wants* a "colour pop" it will still pop on the ISF expert setting (which is the default which is pretty close to calibration). Forcing that all the time totally destroys it for me, it just looks like a cartoon, and when the creators actually want it ot happen you don't even notice. Baby Driver for example has colour pop everywhere, and looks so much better on a more accurate setting. If you set it to vivid you actually lose a *ton* of the contrast and the colours actually 'pop' even less.
I think the argument against playback speeds is so weirdly specific. If you've got a problem with someone watching at the "wrong" speed, then shouldn't you also take issue with: the pause button, subtitles, and aspect ratio? If you're whining that your art can only truly be appreciated in a very specific and tailored manner, then why should the consumer be able to "ruin" your work by slapping dialogue captions underneath it? Does that go against what you intended for the screen to display? If someone watches in 4:3 instead of 16:9, shouldn't that be an outrage? What's the difference between that and control over speed? The things visibly display ought to count for something in a visual medium, right? If your art is meant to be a specific length, then shouldn't you argue that pausing that experience to go do something is an offense to consuming your art in the "correct" manner? It's just weirdly specific and arbitrary. Let people enjoy your art however they wish and be greatfull that they choose to spend their time with on your work.
It´s also about what you can enforce that makes it so dumb. Sure you can lock my color settings, subtitles, aspect ratio and playback speed perhaps, but I will always be able to watch your movie on a second screen while playing videogames and being drunk, and then write a review about it online while I didn't consume your art "the right way".
*Sawta:* _'If your art is meant to be a specific length, then shouldn't you argue that pausing that experience to go do something is an offense to consuming your art in the "correct" manner?'_ - Have you ever heard of the Nirvana fallacy?: _'Description: Comparing a realistic solution with an idealized one, and discounting or even dismissing the realistic solution as a result of comparing to a “perfect world” or impossible standard. Ignoring the fact that improvements are often good enough reason.'_ logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/134/Nirvana-Fallacy
I remember discovering the speed multiplier. I started off slow around there. Eventually I devolved into getting an extension that allows me to go to 2.75x+
Arron Paul's argument is like a game producer locking a game at 30 FPS and removing adjustable graphics settings because "you should play it how it was intended to be played by the artist".
It's nothing like that. The experiences are completely different if you were to play a movie at normal speed vs 2x speed. Whereas I played RDR2 at 30 FPS when I first bought it for my PS4 and now I play at 100 FPS on my PC. The difference is that the gameplay looks smoother. That's the only difference. I'm not even saying this thing shouldn't be allowed, but I am saying your comparison isn't a good one.
@@BrokenGodEnt My argument is that consumers should be able to do whatever they want to products that they've already bought. Maybe playing a film at 2x speed ruins it, but if you've already paid for it, then it's your choice as a consumer to ruin it.
@@Always.Smarter half of 30 fps games is from either the consoles limitation or stupid devs. But yeah, for those who are able to make their game in 60 fps but forcing to 30 fps can kill themselves.
I love subtitles and I love it when it says *birds chirping* because I never hear the birds chirping... I don't have any hearing difficulties or anything, I just prefer to read.
Due to my own excessive watching of youtube videos, I now default to consuming videos at 1.75x or 2x for slow talkers. The only type of content I watch at 1x are music videos and language learning lessons. Furthermore, I find myself not watching Netflix/AppleTV+ at all because the pacing for shows is just too slow. I can also see the future where youtube videos have a default speed option to set at 1.5x. Erin Paul needs to get over himself. Should I also not watch shows on 720p/480p because my connection is slow? Maybe we should ban content from cell phones because the creator intended it to be consumed on a large massive 80" display. Also if you don't have dolby surround sound speakers you are banned from watching anything at all. /endrant
I'd love to have the option to change the playback speed, but I probably wouldn't use it often at all. Honestly, these people getting upset seem to not understand that using said feature is optional, not forced. In my opinion, the more features I have in the software I pay for the better.
Exactly, most people are just arguing about different tastes here. Everyone is different and enjoys it differently. More options means wider audience/wider acceptance. The one thing that bothers me though is Linus saying hell stick to 30 fps videos, it's more cinematic. It's a tech channel, not a movie. Why does it matter so much to him? I prefer 60+ fps, the fluid motion looks more pleasing to me but if the content is good I don't really care.
@@LEXXIUS Because of my bad internet connection I loathe 60fps videos on RUclips. I usually watch at 1.5x or 2x speed, so there wouldn't be any difference, but the 60fps doubles the bandwidth. So often I'm then forced to go with 720p60fps (looks fine, but bad buffering) or 480p30 (looks terrible but internet connection suffices). Normally upping the video quality is a jump of ~1.5 - 2x, with 60fps its a jump of ~4x in bandwidth for no benefit! Or sometimes it''s the difference of 60fps video -> use 720p60fps, 30fps video -> use 1080p
@@marcusborderlands6177 Thanks for the concern. On Desktop I use the RUclips enhancer addon for Firefox. I also use Vanced but afaik it doesn't have the option to block high fps. Luckily I have much better internet connection now, so it doesn't matter.
I'm from Poland, and never never tried speeding up the videos. That was a nice surprise to see, that i still understand everything in 2x speed in this video.. That feels good.
1) "Get your facts straight, then distort them at your leisure" -- get the colors and timing how the artist wants, but then let the user tweak that as desired. 2) So the worst-case scenario is people writing bad reviews based on higher speed viewing. But if that happens then it's because a significant portion of the viewers are watching it that way, so those reviews are still useful to them. 3) Regarding black and white content...my girlfriend watches a ton of old shows and stuff that was originally black and white. When you buy the DVDs, a lot of them are already colorized. And she will sometimes go into the color settings of the tv and turn it down to black and white. If there was a dedicated button for it she would definitely do it more. And that's a case of users using extra controls to restore the original artists' vision after the business folks changed it.
I would sure use this on "Lost in Space". It's visually beautiful, the story isn't bad, but the pacing is. so. fucking. slow... It's basically the content of 2.5 good episodes streched into an entire season.
5:35 - The issue with giving creators individual control over play back speed of their content is that the consumer will have differing experiences. Companies that supply content over various platforms spend large amounts of time making sure the user experience is consistent across those platforms. 6:25 - Linus makes a killer point. I'm pressed for time, got other things to do. I churn through a lot of content, more than I would if playback was restricted to 'regular speed'.
And I def have to speed up the video for some of the slower-talking youtubers. Oldcarmemories and Carwizard comes to mind. Rarely do I have to slow them down. And being hearing-impaired, I depend on captioning to "fill-in-the-blanks". Thanks as always for great content, LMG!
This is the video that made me start watching videos at 1.25 speed. Never even considered watching videos at a faster speed before except for comedic purposes.
Imagine subscribing to a physical News Paper and they tell you "You have to read every single bit of it even the parts you dislike otherwise you are no longer allowed to buy our newspaper." lmao. EDIT thanks linus for the book example xD
That's a bad example, because book creators don't have the ability to control how their medium is used. I work at a paper, and I can tell you that if the people in the industry had that power, then many of them would heavily enforce it.
Your example isn't scaled properly. Netflix is not trying to force you to watch every single film and show that they offer. Articles are self contained just as a film is and can read whatever article you want in a news paper or watch whatever film you want without having to worry about the rest and still understand what is going on. You have the freedom to skim an article, but at some point you will skip so much that it's just not the same experience.
I watch most stuff on RUclips at 2x. Depends on the talker, sometime it needs to be slowed down a bit, or if there's stuff to read (although usually, I pause for that). I already use a web browser plugin for speeding up videos on any HTML5 viewer. I bought myself a shiny new TV recently... I hardly use it because I can't speed things up to watch them!
Video Speed Controller FTW! Which if you are watching Netflix on your PC Chrome Browser is a current workaround for going faster. I'm watching this video at 2.5/2.6x
I love color calibrating all my games, adding more saturation for more vivid colors and in the end adding a little more extra sharpening. Don't fuckin limit the consumers, I still bought your damn game. You got your money.
Well, the film makers complained that having the ability to watch at different speed means people will watch the movie in the ways not intended by them. Basically ruins the art of the film.
@@kaitoharrison872 thats a dumb argument. They dont intent on me to watch movies while drunk. While high, while wearing an eye patch, etc. They cant tell people how they get to watch something they pay for. If they want to tell people how they can or cant watch a movie they should stop selling them to people.
@@ronnie3044 Well, I don't agree with either. Another similar argument is the smart speed some podcast player. Braddy Haran from Hello Internet basically mentioned that he dislike people using that feature because it means that you don't pay attention to a podcast fully. He apparently have a dedicated quite time to listen to podcast. I, like most people, listen to podcast while doing something else and would rather to go through a podcast as fast as possible or don't really care absorbing every information.
@@kaitoharrison872 exactly. I listen to podcasts in the car and at work. I know i miss alot of things. But joe rogan doesnt get to dictate how i listen to his podcast. So for them to be upset about it is one thing but trying to force people is another. Its just straight up idiotic for anyone to try and tell others how to consume media and act like they are in the right.
Love the art in yourself, not yourself in the art. The public decides how to consume your art, let them consume it in the most comfortable way for them
Depending on the video I think watching YT content and movies is pretty different. In terms of RUclips the content (like this video) is usually info based and so taking in that info faster allows time saving. Movies are experiences and time is put into the speed of scenes and how long shots take to get a feeling. Having the a different speed of a scene can give a very different effect on the viewer. Of course there is cinematic YT content like this which is why i think it should be up to the original creator like Vimeo allows the creator to choose wether the viewer can change speed. This way if the show is like a documentary or something where they don't think the speed matters they can give the viewer that option.
Pitch doesn't change when changing playback speed on youtube either so it's weird that people would be surprised by Linus's pitched voice in real life.
linus is my favourite high and blind dude with a backwards baseball-cap ever. honestly only item missing is the bathrobe and he would be the perfect "THE Dude"
Why are people so precious once we have purchased it, at least it is not being pirated? If I buy a poster of the Mona Lisa I can stick it on the back of the toilet door because it is mine, it is not the original and it is not in a theater. Also there have been plugins that have offered this kind of tweak for Netflix for ages (Super Netflix for example). As you say consumer is king and some people cannot sit through a film as it is, so why restrict them. Also sometimes plodding through some series when there is was a writers strike that year can allow you to enjoy later episodes.
I like watching things at normal speed because I like hearing the things at the right pitch and pace but I’m not knocking people that speed things up or slow it down
If I buy a DVD\Blu-ray player with a playback speed option, will they be upset with that DVD\Blu-ray player's manufacturer? If a movie is made for IMAX, are they gonna be upset that I watch it in a normal theater, or get it on DVD? This is just monumentally stupid.
VLC player can incrase the speed without changing the pitch, been watching TV shows like this for years at 1.7 and 1.8 saves a lot of time especially when binging a whole series
I watch basically everything at double speed. Netflix included when I'm on the laptop so I can do it with a chrome extension called video speed controller.
TL:DR; Increased speed = increased consumption. Increased variety, reduced opportunity cost. Faster everything is really just intermediary neural link preparation. I know I'm way in the minority, but I watch every video on RUclips at 2x and I listen to audio books at 2.5x and I've watched some anime at 2x or some shows that I wouldn't watch for 30 minutes but I wouldn't mind giving it a try if it were half that length. To be fair, I consume significantly more content than the average consumer. Somewhere around 40 hrs of RUclips a week just because of the 2x feature (I have no idea if it accounts for the 2x and its actually 80.) The nature of my job and free time allow me to peruse a variety of interests and watch plenty of podcast (ex. WAN Show) that I would otherwise skip over because we are spoiled for choice. I don't have enough time to sit down and read that many books with my eyes anymore, but at work I can listen to 4-8 hours of audio books. I'd only finish a couple dozen books a year tops if I listened at normal speeds. 40 hour books become 2 days worth of listening and now I've broadened my horizons just because of playback speed. (You can argue that retention might suffer but my experience is that only seems to be the case over years and with increased speeds I can refresh at just about anytime because most books become single day experiences if I've got lots of menial chores.)
thekaiserofmord while I agree that this applies for a lot of YT content and podcasts (I too am someone who watches 99% of YT vids on 2x speed) I can't say the same for most movies as the speed of scenes can very much change flow and feeling a scene gets across. I can't imagine watching a film in the cinema at 2x speed for example it's pretty ridiculous.
@@theblackswordsman9951 agreed, things like music and most movies have a pacing to them and I think you would have to watch an awful lot of movies before your brain figured out what pacing looked like at 2x. I feel like the same argument can be made for audiobooks, but honestly 1x sounds super slow now and the pacing feels fine. Conversations seem unaffected.
Here's the real "middle ground." Let content creators control whether the playback speed options are displayed by default. Let consumers have an option to override this default, but in order to override it, the user is prompted with something like, "The creators of this content recommend viewing at regular speed for the best experience. I understand."
Honestly I have seen movies where moments did get ruined by 24 Hz already, a specially the panning shots tend to be really annoying. And while I would understand when you're unwilling to release your main videos at >30 Hz for technical reasons (like it'll result in worse images cause less time and thus light for each frame, or you don't have the hardware, or even you don't see any fast movement in the vid and you consider it a waste of approximately double the resources neccesary to watch and distribute it without any real visual gain), but otherwise I'd really want to have a 60Hz version.
1. Art galleries are "middle men". Walk in run around glancing at the art...... or sit in front of an exhibit and look at a single piece from doors opening to doors closing. 2. It can be considered an accessibility option as already pointed out for somebody who needs to take longer to comprehend what is happening.
"everyone else's art" no it isn't your art, it's our art. Reminds me of that one Southpark episode where a bunch of 'musical artists' protested napster.
Playback speed is an accessibility thing. Not everyone experiences things in the same way, and stuff can be too fast or too slow for one person while they'll be fine for another. Like mentioned, subtitles too, for example, are not something that creators have in mind when they create a work, but they're indispensable for some people.
As someone who watches all RUclips content excluding music at 2-2.5x speed, and most TV shows at 2-2.5x speed, you have NO right to tell me how to consume my content. I hate when people hate on my methodology without ever trying it. That being said, I do watch movies at around 1.3x speed because yes it does detract from my experience, but that is only my opinion and I won't hate on other people who watch artistic movies at 2x speed because that's what they enjoy. So STOP hating on what other people like and Netflix should add these nondefault features because more consumer choice is almost never a bad thing
The way they described Yvonne's TV-watching habits is so soulless. I'm with Aaron Paul on this. No one is PROHIBITTING you from doing whatever you want with your TV. But it's a different story when the first party platform is ENABLING it. That would be like if you worked hard to come up with a breakfast cereal recipe, brought it to market, and Walmart decides to sell it, but with each box, they attach a packet of ketchup to it. Not FORCING the customers to add ketchup to the cereal, but enabling it as a readily available option.
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12:39 The subtitles for Netflix content are much less distracting if you switch "Subtitle appearance" to "Semitransparent" (an option to tick within the "Font" color options panel) in your Netflix "MY PROFILE" settings within your Netflix account settings that are accessible through the Netflix website.
Wow, I used to think it was because English is not my first language that I occasionally miss lines in English movies and thus prefer watching with subtitles, but now it turns out that native speakers sometimes have the same problem. You just blew my mind :-)
Linus saying "some of us have a life" while wearing his hat like a 12 year old trying to look street, is honestly my favorite part of the video.
my favorite part was linus inventing the "I didnt ask" meme before anyone did
Right so I'm not allowed to watch things at 1.25x speed because "it destroys muh art" but no one has problems with ads breaking up the show pacing 20 times in a hour. Hypocrites.
We download and Netflix doesn't have ads in the middle
@@josh44026 But when you watch movies traditionally on free-to-air TV, you get ad breaks that break the flow of movie. How is that different to speeding up a show, hence 'hypocrite'
@@josh44026 it's a generalized issue not a Netflix only issue. That would be stupid. If you are going to complain about your vision not being seen how you intended it should be applicable to ALL mediums
to be fair, watching anything on regular tv is a compromise, you should go to the cinema/buy/stream/pirate for the actual experience, and adding 1.25 to Netflix is giving the option to worsen the experience.
I love options and I'm not against its implementation, but there is a discussion to be had on how it influences first-time viewers who wouldn't get the creator's vision because of it, and what could be done about it. I feel like tucking things like this away in some folder of an options menu with a pop up explaining that you shouldn't use it is a good step. Nothing stops you from using it if you want to, but the viewing experience wouldn't be spoiled as easily.
@@zeratulrus142 But my point is that basically all TV shows are made for TV, and those that get DVD releases don't do so until well after the show has aired, yet none of these creators give a fuck because they are hippocrites who like to find any reason to hate Netflix. These same people should also be banning anyone with an old or bad TV too, because color balance and being able to see what's happening is far more important than the speed that it's viewed at, but again, they don't care, because those people are putting money directly into their pockets. What Netflix wants to do is offer consumers quality of life at no charge, and to these people that simply will not do.
Me reading a book, my mom: "I hope you´re reading at exact 3.21523 words per second"
Thank you
What about lowering the resolution? At 144p, the content isn’t “how the creator intended”
Should people with lower internet connection speeds be revoked of the opportunity to watch a show because it’s “incorrect”?
Yo! I hate Netflix so much regarding this aspect. IT decides what resolution you will watch the movie/series based on what the internet speeds look like.
I have 500mbps internet connection but Netflix still loads the content in 480/720p. even though I can stream 4k on my connection no problem.
Just add a resolution button so I can choose ffs.
@@adyandrey23andrey Does your netflix plan allow you full hd at all?
@@adyandrey23andrey Because if your connection really allows it and your netflix plan also allow it, the shows should load at max quality
@@adyandrey23andrey you have to pay for the Netflix 4k UHD plan and even then very little is in 4k UHD .
@@adyandrey23andrey You can change that in the playback settings :P
As someone who is partially colorblind, I have to crank up the color vividness a decent amount to enjoy movies. Imagine if directors and actors were mad about that and forced me to watch it how "they" intended... It would look bad to me. So yeah, let people do what they want.
I don't really understand this? Surely it'll still look the same to you as it would if you seen it in real life? You see everything through the colour blindness 'filter', so how does cranking up vividness make it look better?
@@lost4468yt my partial colorblindness results in a red deficiency, not a total loss of color. This means reds and red-toned colors look less vivid to me due to the nature of how my eyes perceive the color overlap. So, turning up the "pop" of colors makes the colors more apparent to me, whereas normally, things look a touch bland.
This is how those colorblind glasses work. They're essentially boosting the color of what you're looking at. Or so I've been told, as I've never tried them.
@@BradJohannsen Ok, but I still don't see how it'd look more accurate to you? Given that you see the world like that as well.
@@lost4468yt making the picture "accurate" to my real life vision is not the desired outcome. I never said my personal calibrations were for accuracy. It's to get the color pop and the appeal that I hear others talk about and say "wow, look at those colors".
@@BradJohannsen Ahh ok, because I personally consider that forced colour pop you get with vivid to be much worse. On my LG C8 OLED when the director actually *wants* a "colour pop" it will still pop on the ISF expert setting (which is the default which is pretty close to calibration). Forcing that all the time totally destroys it for me, it just looks like a cartoon, and when the creators actually want it ot happen you don't even notice.
Baby Driver for example has colour pop everywhere, and looks so much better on a more accurate setting. If you set it to vivid you actually lose a *ton* of the contrast and the colours actually 'pop' even less.
Call the high-speed channel Linus Overclocked or Tech Tips Overclocked.
usp211816 overclocked Tech Tips
Speed controls are honestly one of the reasons I watch a lot more RUclips than Netflix or Hulu
There is no movies on you've though. Well, they are extremely limited in term of amount though.
It's not comparable.
I love how this turned into a moral debate over the ethicalities of watching Netflix at different speeds.
I think the argument against playback speeds is so weirdly specific.
If you've got a problem with someone watching at the "wrong" speed, then shouldn't you also take issue with: the pause button, subtitles, and aspect ratio? If you're whining that your art can only truly be appreciated in a very specific and tailored manner, then why should the consumer be able to "ruin" your work by slapping dialogue captions underneath it? Does that go against what you intended for the screen to display? If someone watches in 4:3 instead of 16:9, shouldn't that be an outrage? What's the difference between that and control over speed? The things visibly display ought to count for something in a visual medium, right? If your art is meant to be a specific length, then shouldn't you argue that pausing that experience to go do something is an offense to consuming your art in the "correct" manner?
It's just weirdly specific and arbitrary. Let people enjoy your art however they wish and be greatfull that they choose to spend their time with on your work.
I think it's some sort of perfectionism driving that kind of thinking, which leads to purism.
Just look at the Buffy HD remaster and the controversy over that.
The original creator backlash against it was pretty dramatic.
It´s also about what you can enforce that makes it so dumb. Sure you can lock my color settings, subtitles, aspect ratio and playback speed perhaps, but I will always be able to watch your movie on a second screen while playing videogames and being drunk, and then write a review about it online while I didn't consume your art "the right way".
I do take issue with subtitles tbh
*Sawta:* _'If your art is meant to be a specific length, then shouldn't you argue that pausing that experience to go do something is an offense to consuming your art in the "correct" manner?'_
- Have you ever heard of the Nirvana fallacy?:
_'Description: Comparing a realistic solution with an idealized one, and discounting or even dismissing the realistic solution as a result of comparing to a “perfect world” or impossible standard. Ignoring the fact that improvements are often good enough reason.'_ logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/134/Nirvana-Fallacy
My inner 13yo is excited. Remember trying to pause on the sideboob shot in real time?
I'm just casually watching this at 2x speed
*PATHETIC!*
THANK FUCKING GOD! I THOUGHT I WAS JUST WEIRD!
It's so bad people in my own family makes fun of me! YES!
Same here XD
I watch almost everything on RUclips at 2x
Same
Hearing Linus say "You have been compensated. I do not owe you anything" to Aaron Paul at 2 x speed. Cracked me up.
Perfect fucking timing.
would like to see the date of original broadcast either on screen at the beginning of the clip or in the description
But would you then click on the original video link or go and find it to give them an extra view? I reckon leaving the date out is a strategy
@@mads4830 No, that would hurt retention.
I’m with you on this one. I watch ALL my content on RUclips at 1.5X or more. It is up to the user 100%
This was litterally the first time I ever watched something faster than normal. Now I'm hooked at 1.25x speed
For the wan show I always use 1.75 since they are usually quite long
I listen to audio books at 1.25 speed
I remember discovering the speed multiplier. I started off slow around there. Eventually I devolved into getting an extension that allows me to go to 2.75x+
@@Alex-us2vw I watch that in 2x speed because it makes it a 30 min it video instead of a 40ish minute video with 1.75
Welcome to the club soon you will get a speed up chrome extensions and never watch anything slower than 2.5x ever again
Arron Paul's argument is like a game producer locking a game at 30 FPS and removing adjustable graphics settings because "you should play it how it was intended to be played by the artist".
you mean like every console game? lol they still use that argument against providing mod support
It's nothing like that. The experiences are completely different if you were to play a movie at normal speed vs 2x speed. Whereas I played RDR2 at 30 FPS when I first bought it for my PS4 and now I play at 100 FPS on my PC. The difference is that the gameplay looks smoother. That's the only difference.
I'm not even saying this thing shouldn't be allowed, but I am saying your comparison isn't a good one.
@@BrokenGodEnt My argument is that consumers should be able to do whatever they want to products that they've already bought. Maybe playing a film at 2x speed ruins it, but if you've already paid for it, then it's your choice as a consumer to ruin it.
@@Always.Smarter half of 30 fps games is from either the consoles limitation or stupid devs.
But yeah, for those who are able to make their game in 60 fps but forcing to 30 fps can kill themselves.
1:16 WAIT! Is this the Linus Tech Tips faster channel??? lol
Yess mate.......
Linus Faster Tips
luis abularach Linus 2x
I love subtitles and I love it when it says *birds chirping* because I never hear the birds chirping... I don't have any hearing difficulties or anything, I just prefer to read.
Due to my own excessive watching of youtube videos, I now default to consuming videos at 1.75x or 2x for slow talkers. The only type of content I watch at 1x are music videos and language learning lessons.
Furthermore, I find myself not watching Netflix/AppleTV+ at all because the pacing for shows is just too slow. I can also see the future where youtube videos have a default speed option to set at 1.5x.
Erin Paul needs to get over himself. Should I also not watch shows on 720p/480p because my connection is slow? Maybe we should ban content from cell phones because the creator intended it to be consumed on a large massive 80" display. Also if you don't have dolby surround sound speakers you are banned from watching anything at all. /endrant
I use a browser extension to force faster speeds. All movies at 1.5x, and Yt at 2.25x
The only content I watch at 1x speed people that talk too fast for 2x speed or music videos.
I got an extension that allows more gradiant speeding up without audio distortion. EX I can use 1.10 or 1.20 speed
... you people are really weird... I almost never use the playback speed function... I just dont get the point.
@@Timeward76 We don't have time in life.
Also, I expect 60 fps, Linus.
I'd love to have the option to change the playback speed, but I probably wouldn't use it often at all.
Honestly, these people getting upset seem to not understand that using said feature is optional, not forced. In my opinion, the more features I have in the software I pay for the better.
Exactly, most people are just arguing about different tastes here. Everyone is different and enjoys it differently. More options means wider audience/wider acceptance.
The one thing that bothers me though is Linus saying hell stick to 30 fps videos, it's more cinematic. It's a tech channel, not a movie. Why does it matter so much to him? I prefer 60+ fps, the fluid motion looks more pleasing to me but if the content is good I don't really care.
@@LEXXIUS and more natural
@@LEXXIUS Because of my bad internet connection I loathe 60fps videos on RUclips. I usually watch at 1.5x or 2x speed, so there wouldn't be any difference, but the 60fps doubles the bandwidth. So often I'm then forced to go with 720p60fps (looks fine, but bad buffering) or 480p30 (looks terrible but internet connection suffices). Normally upping the video quality is a jump of ~1.5 - 2x, with 60fps its a jump of ~4x in bandwidth for no benefit! Or sometimes it''s the difference of 60fps video -> use 720p60fps, 30fps video -> use 1080p
@@nywe I know it's been a year, but there are extensions like h264ify for PC and apps like yt vanced that let you disable 60fps
@@marcusborderlands6177 Thanks for the concern. On Desktop I use the RUclips enhancer addon for Firefox. I also use Vanced but afaik it doesn't have the option to block high fps. Luckily I have much better internet connection now, so it doesn't matter.
I'm from Poland, and never never tried speeding up the videos. That was a nice surprise to see, that i still understand everything in 2x speed in this video.. That feels good.
You can already watch netflix at higher speeds using chrome extensions
Yea but not on phones or tvs if you don't cast
What's wrong with Netflix baking the feature in?
Here casually watching this at 2x and wishing for 3x ...
This is a feature. If you don't like it don't use it. People sometimes research series and movies for their videos.
1) "Get your facts straight, then distort them at your leisure" -- get the colors and timing how the artist wants, but then let the user tweak that as desired.
2) So the worst-case scenario is people writing bad reviews based on higher speed viewing. But if that happens then it's because a significant portion of the viewers are watching it that way, so those reviews are still useful to them.
3) Regarding black and white content...my girlfriend watches a ton of old shows and stuff that was originally black and white. When you buy the DVDs, a lot of them are already colorized. And she will sometimes go into the color settings of the tv and turn it down to black and white. If there was a dedicated button for it she would definitely do it more. And that's a case of users using extra controls to restore the original artists' vision after the business folks changed it.
I would sure use this on "Lost in Space".
It's visually beautiful, the story isn't bad, but the pacing is. so. fucking. slow...
It's basically the content of 2.5 good episodes streched into an entire season.
you guys watching "Lost in Space"? i've skipped new s02 for thats. lol
i love that show! but you are correct some episodes just drag on to much
I really like the show, and I see your point. It worked for me and was never a bother at all but I can see how that’d get annoying.
It’s like going to a Chinese restaurant and they refuse to give you forks
Watching this at 1.75
yeah same james talks faster than linus so i had to put it at 1.75 but if it was just linus i could comfortably watch it at 2x speed
Watching at 2x
I already watch Netflix at 2x speed with a browser extension
So a channel where everything is sped up, like overclocked.
"Linus Overclocked Tips"
YES! I watch everything at 2x and audiobooks at 3. Also, a friend of mine torrents movies and tv shows so he can speed them up in VLC.
5:35 - The issue with giving creators individual control over play back speed of their content is that the consumer will have differing experiences. Companies that supply content over various platforms spend large amounts of time making sure the user experience is consistent across those platforms.
6:25 - Linus makes a killer point. I'm pressed for time, got other things to do. I churn through a lot of content, more than I would if playback was restricted to 'regular speed'.
And I def have to speed up the video for some of the slower-talking youtubers. Oldcarmemories and Carwizard comes to mind. Rarely do I have to slow them down. And being hearing-impaired, I depend on captioning to "fill-in-the-blanks". Thanks as always for great content, LMG!
This is the video that made me start watching videos at 1.25 speed. Never even considered watching videos at a faster speed before except for comedic purposes.
I've tried to before but RUclips always changes the speed back
Ye 1.25 is what I mostly watch on pc, and if I don't close the tab it stays but mobile always changes :/
Eventually you will get to 2x. I will turn in to 2x automatically when I click on a RUclips video.
I don't care how someone watches stuff, just as long as when they review it or recommend it they tell me they watch it differently from normal.
Imagine subscribing to a physical News Paper and they tell you "You have to read every single bit of it even the parts you dislike otherwise you are no longer allowed to buy our newspaper." lmao. EDIT thanks linus for the book example xD
That's a bad example, because book creators don't have the ability to control how their medium is used. I work at a paper, and I can tell you that if the people in the industry had that power, then many of them would heavily enforce it.
@@lost4468yt Haha thanks :D
Your example isn't scaled properly. Netflix is not trying to force you to watch every single film and show that they offer. Articles are self contained just as a film is and can read whatever article you want in a news paper or watch whatever film you want without having to worry about the rest and still understand what is going on. You have the freedom to skim an article, but at some point you will skip so much that it's just not the same experience.
The "Skip Intro Button" is destroying the directors art more than a speed panel would do.
I watch most stuff on RUclips at 2x. Depends on the talker, sometime it needs to be slowed down a bit, or if there's stuff to read (although usually, I pause for that). I already use a web browser plugin for speeding up videos on any HTML5 viewer.
I bought myself a shiny new TV recently... I hardly use it because I can't speed things up to watch them!
Glad I'm not the only one who almost always uses 2x speed!
Video Speed Controller FTW! Which if you are watching Netflix on your PC Chrome Browser is a current workaround for going faster. I'm watching this video at 2.5/2.6x
That is exactly my case!
Though for some slow talkers, it can be 2.5x or 3x
1:56 okay then ill just go on the high seas and speed it up after the torrent is done
Imagine being forced to look at a famous painting a certain way and for a certain amount of time.
I love color calibrating all my games, adding more saturation for more vivid colors and in the end adding a little more extra sharpening. Don't fuckin limit the consumers, I still bought your damn game. You got your money.
Wait...whats is to defend? If someone wants to watch something at a higher speed what does that got to do with anyone else?
Well, the film makers complained that having the ability to watch at different speed means people will watch the movie in the ways not intended by them. Basically ruins the art of the film.
@@kaitoharrison872 thats a dumb argument. They dont intent on me to watch movies while drunk. While high, while wearing an eye patch, etc. They cant tell people how they get to watch something they pay for. If they want to tell people how they can or cant watch a movie they should stop selling them to people.
@austin M theres plenty of movies ive watched at a faster speed. It doesnt ruin the movie for me. If someone likes it how does the make them "vapid"?
@@ronnie3044 Well, I don't agree with either. Another similar argument is the smart speed some podcast player. Braddy Haran from Hello Internet basically mentioned that he dislike people using that feature because it means that you don't pay attention to a podcast fully. He apparently have a dedicated quite time to listen to podcast. I, like most people, listen to podcast while doing something else and would rather to go through a podcast as fast as possible or don't really care absorbing every information.
@@kaitoharrison872 exactly. I listen to podcasts in the car and at work. I know i miss alot of things. But joe rogan doesnt get to dictate how i listen to his podcast. So for them to be upset about it is one thing but trying to force people is another. Its just straight up idiotic for anyone to try and tell others how to consume media and act like they are in the right.
Love the art in yourself, not yourself in the art. The public decides how to consume your art, let them consume it in the most comfortable way for them
AbnormallyNormal // humanism. The consumer chooses how to consume. The beauty is in the eye of the viewer
Depending on the video I think watching YT content and movies is pretty different. In terms of RUclips the content (like this video) is usually info based and so taking in that info faster allows time saving. Movies are experiences and time is put into the speed of scenes and how long shots take to get a feeling. Having the a different speed of a scene can give a very different effect on the viewer. Of course there is cinematic YT content like this which is why i think it should be up to the original creator like Vimeo allows the creator to choose wether the viewer can change speed. This way if the show is like a documentary or something where they don't think the speed matters they can give the viewer that option.
I think the option should just be available to the consumer, it doesn't hurt anyone who doesn't like it just don't use it
Pitch doesn't change when changing playback speed on youtube either so it's weird that people would be surprised by Linus's pitched voice in real life.
So having scene selection, fast forward and rewind on your Blue Ray or dvd player is bad for the original vision of whatever movie you're watching?
And Linus comprehension towards costumers is what keeps his channels going
0:06 love how it got stuck on that face
linus is my favourite high and blind dude with a backwards baseball-cap ever. honestly only item missing is the bathrobe and he would be the perfect "THE Dude"
Who watched this at 2x
2,5
@@emieldhondt2536 2.7x
Shift + . . . . ! ;)
You can’t possibly still follow at that speed right? I’m watching at 1.25x and think it’s pretty fast already!
kornee I can, I did.
Sometimes I rewatch stuff, then I like to be able to speed it up.
Why are people so precious once we have purchased it, at least it is not being pirated? If I buy a poster of the Mona Lisa I can stick it on the back of the toilet door because it is mine, it is not the original and it is not in a theater.
Also there have been plugins that have offered this kind of tweak for Netflix for ages (Super Netflix for example). As you say consumer is king and some people cannot sit through a film as it is, so why restrict them. Also sometimes plodding through some series when there is was a writers strike that year can allow you to enjoy later episodes.
This is worth having from an accessibility angle alone. And if people find additional uses for it, bonus.
I like watching things at normal speed because I like hearing the things at the right pitch and pace but I’m not knocking people that speed things up or slow it down
I normally use the normal speed, but sometimes content is just so slow!, and I end skipping chunks on the series, that makes it much more enjoyable.
I watch LTT at 2X speed while listening to thrash metal in the background. I don't understand a god damn thing but it's fucking hilarious.
If I buy a DVD\Blu-ray player with a playback speed option, will they be upset with that DVD\Blu-ray player's manufacturer? If a movie is made for IMAX, are they gonna be upset that I watch it in a normal theater, or get it on DVD?
This is just monumentally stupid.
Made me happy to hear the argument for subtitles, because that's the exact same reason i always have them on
Options are GOOD!
VLC player can incrase the speed without changing the pitch, been watching TV shows like this for years at 1.7 and 1.8 saves a lot of time especially when binging a whole series
To be fair, Aaron Paul’s character would totally play movies on 2x and crank colors and sharpness up when he’s high!
Well, subtitles allowed me to get perfect scores on spelling tests throughout my entire education.
"Erin Pow"
There's a few times where I have been pretty proud of linus, this is one of them
The only thing I learned today it that Linus's Wife is a monster.
I use an extension to watch all RUclips videos on 3x, time is valuable and it is mine
I watch basically everything at double speed. Netflix included when I'm on the laptop so I can do it with a chrome extension called video speed controller.
I went from a normal watcher to a x1.75 speed because of you, and now I can never go back to watching your videos at the normal speed...
Meanwhile I have a chrome plugin to do this anyway for when I want to zip through certain things on netflix
I look at every painting upside down to defy the artist’s wishes
TL:DR; Increased speed = increased consumption. Increased variety, reduced opportunity cost. Faster everything is really just intermediary neural link preparation.
I know I'm way in the minority, but I watch every video on RUclips at 2x and I listen to audio books at 2.5x and I've watched some anime at 2x or some shows that I wouldn't watch for 30 minutes but I wouldn't mind giving it a try if it were half that length. To be fair, I consume significantly more content than the average consumer. Somewhere around 40 hrs of RUclips a week just because of the 2x feature (I have no idea if it accounts for the 2x and its actually 80.) The nature of my job and free time allow me to peruse a variety of interests and watch plenty of podcast (ex. WAN Show) that I would otherwise skip over because we are spoiled for choice. I don't have enough time to sit down and read that many books with my eyes anymore, but at work I can listen to 4-8 hours of audio books. I'd only finish a couple dozen books a year tops if I listened at normal speeds. 40 hour books become 2 days worth of listening and now I've broadened my horizons just because of playback speed. (You can argue that retention might suffer but my experience is that only seems to be the case over years and with increased speeds I can refresh at just about anytime because most books become single day experiences if I've got lots of menial chores.)
thekaiserofmord while I agree that this applies for a lot of YT content and podcasts (I too am someone who watches 99% of YT vids on 2x speed) I can't say the same for most movies as the speed of scenes can very much change flow and feeling a scene gets across. I can't imagine watching a film in the cinema at 2x speed for example it's pretty ridiculous.
@@theblackswordsman9951 agreed, things like music and most movies have a pacing to them and I think you would have to watch an awful lot of movies before your brain figured out what pacing looked like at 2x. I feel like the same argument can be made for audiobooks, but honestly 1x sounds super slow now and the pacing feels fine. Conversations seem unaffected.
I like how James by constantly disagrreeing pushes Linus to make really compelling arguments.
this video is making every libertarian smile right now
Watching Linus at 1.0x is like watching an auctioneer at 2.0x.
60fps for me :')
Being able to watch Tails From The Loop at 5x might have made that show watchable.
Only my mom uses netflix
I put subtitles for movies because actors in movies can say sentences clearly half the time
Here's the real "middle ground." Let content creators control whether the playback speed options are displayed by default. Let consumers have an option to override this default, but in order to override it, the user is prompted with something like, "The creators of this content recommend viewing at regular speed for the best experience. I understand."
You forgot to turn your cap back round when you stopped being devils advocate
Video Speed Controller extension for chrome. Been watching content at 2x speed for years.
It's like buying a Jackson Pollock painting and displaying it upside down. To each their own.
Reading the synopses of past episodes to get caught up: That's exactly what I do for movie series like James Bond, etc.
Linus "May I Play Devil's Advocate For A Moment" Sebastian
I crank my brightness, so this is a good argument
“Some of us have a life Mr. Paul!” LOL 😂
Giving people opinions is never a bad thing.
Honestly I have seen movies where moments did get ruined by 24 Hz already, a specially the panning shots tend to be really annoying.
And while I would understand when you're unwilling to release your main videos at >30 Hz for technical reasons (like it'll result in worse images cause less time and thus light for each frame, or you don't have the hardware, or even you don't see any fast movement in the vid and you consider it a waste of approximately double the resources neccesary to watch and distribute it without any real visual gain), but otherwise I'd really want to have a 60Hz version.
1. Art galleries are "middle men". Walk in run around glancing at the art...... or sit in front of an exhibit and look at a single piece from doors opening to doors closing.
2. It can be considered an accessibility option as already pointed out for somebody who needs to take longer to comprehend what is happening.
"everyone else's art" no it isn't your art, it's our art. Reminds me of that one Southpark episode where a bunch of 'musical artists' protested napster.
Playback speed is an accessibility thing. Not everyone experiences things in the same way, and stuff can be too fast or too slow for one person while they'll be fine for another. Like mentioned, subtitles too, for example, are not something that creators have in mind when they create a work, but they're indispensable for some people.
I’ve never dabbled in playback speed and I’m watching this at 1.50x and it just makes everything hard to follow for me.
As someone who watches all RUclips content excluding music at 2-2.5x speed, and most TV shows at 2-2.5x speed, you have NO right to tell me how to consume my content. I hate when people hate on my methodology without ever trying it. That being said, I do watch movies at around 1.3x speed because yes it does detract from my experience, but that is only my opinion and I won't hate on other people who watch artistic movies at 2x speed because that's what they enjoy. So STOP hating on what other people like and Netflix should add these nondefault features because more consumer choice is almost never a bad thing
The way they described Yvonne's TV-watching habits is so soulless. I'm with Aaron Paul on this. No one is PROHIBITTING you from doing whatever you want with your TV. But it's a different story when the first party platform is ENABLING it. That would be like if you worked hard to come up with a breakfast cereal recipe, brought it to market, and Walmart decides to sell it, but with each box, they attach a packet of ketchup to it. Not FORCING the customers to add ketchup to the cereal, but enabling it as a readily available option.
12:39 The subtitles for Netflix content are much less distracting if you switch "Subtitle appearance" to "Semitransparent" (an option to tick within the "Font" color options panel) in your Netflix "MY PROFILE" settings within your Netflix account settings that are accessible through the Netflix website.
Regular TV networks have sometimes done this in order to fit in more advertisements.
Linus is one of those fast talkers who doesn't think while he talks
I mainly watch Netflix on my phone so that I CAN speed things up. Best thing ever that I discovered!
Wow, I used to think it was because English is not my first language that I occasionally miss lines in English movies and thus prefer watching with subtitles, but now it turns out that native speakers sometimes have the same problem. You just blew my mind :-)
The fact that I had the ability to speed up my VHS-Tapes back in the days didn't destroy the art.