Ok so a few things that I missed. The Nomad has 2 gun racks by the entrance. The syulen can take a Pulse bike. The Mustang can take a Pulse bike if you tractor it in and out. Combat for Freelancer should be a 7 Its pitch yaw and roll are actually slower than the Cutty (I wrote 5 and said 6 XD) A full revised list without style or price Andromeda - 41 Freelancer 37 Nomad - 35 Cutty - 34 Cutter - 28 Titan - 26 100i - 23 Syulen - 23 Aurora MR - 15 Mustang - 16 Arrow - 16 C8X - 12
@Viktoria_Thaelin I hated the Cutter initially. I saw it as nothing more than a more boxy Pisces. But now the ship is growing on me. There is something about that flying shoe box that I like, and I can't even tell what exactly what it is. I just like it!
In 3.23 it seems the Titan is possibly the best starter ship. You could literally melt your way into bounties with it, and it is great for PVP too since it seems this patch favors medium fighters. All while having a bed to log out, and cargo space for smuggling, or box delivery. The ship is great for bunker missions too since you can destroy towers with those guns. You can get all that without breaking the bank.
I've been playing star citizen for about a week now. I started with the Aurora MR Starter Pack (around $45 USD). It was cool to get started, but last night I upgraded the Aurora MR to the c8R Pisces for around ($35 USD, instead of paying $65). Im still not sure what im doing, but the pisces is the best "starter" ship imo because of the following: You have way more cargo room for beginner small cargo and delivery missions. More room to walk around inside and extra chair for a guide or someone trying to help you learn the game. The ship also seems to be loaded up with free med supplies all the time, which is cool for new players. You also have that medbed in there that you can set your respawn point to. I'm not sure what the heck is going on with Logging Out, if you have to do it in a bed or not. I would like to just start the game off in my ship in the hanger (or where I landed and logged out in the bed at). The pisces also has some ship guns, but as a new player i haven't found myself in too many space battles. Im mostly solo traveling, learning how to warp jump, exploring, getting use to flying, stuff like that. The ship also has two internal storage compartments which is super cool, one public and one private. and it was honestly hard to get stuff in and out of the aurora, having that ramp door is way better. For players who dont even want to be a medic, its still a good ship to start the game with, it helps with the learning curve.
@@HeyoWhatUp This is great. Glad you've found your your little space buddy. I think when it came out the C8R found a place in a lot of people hearts. I don't think you can log out in the bed unfortunately which is just annoying tbh. But you might be able to do a few of the lower level bounties in it. o7 and all the best out there. If you get stuck and have questions hit me up.
Great video Red. For me my starter ship will always be Nomad. It really is the best bang for your buck. However for my two alt accounts, when you just need a good starting point, I have gone for 100i. Cutty also comes very close when it comes to functionality. When it comes to style though - Syulen is the best. Loved the outtakes in the end :)
I agreed with all of your points except for the cutlass black lol. It is not tanky at all and now that the freelancer has an additional size 2 shield (3 total) it way outperforms the cutlass black in almost every metric apart from the turret.
Yeah imma have to push back on that a little. Your right the shield is massive, couldn't believe it honestly but after that it actually loses in every category, manoeuvring and hull primarily. Be good to see a match up though. I get the feeling that you may be right though that shield is going to be very hard to overcome. Cutlass might have met it's match here.
@@Reds_Resort the cutlass does have some manuverability over the freelancer but if you can shoot off one of the main engines, which is arguably very easy. The fight is basically over for the cutlass
Connie needs all the love it can get. Beautiful and lovely ship I wonder how effective it will be flown solo once engineering hits and before blades and AI crew will be a thing. That might hinder it a bit. Lovely list, and I'd say that indeed the Titan is still the best of the best. Or the Aurora if someone is wanting to start from the actual level 1. Tho did not know about the Mustangs little cargo rack, that seems very handy.
Quick little tip that I remember a while although I'm not sure if it still applies in this patch. You can detach the cargo module of the Aurora CL using a tractor beam and put it on any other Aurora ship making that 3 scu go up to 6. And you can just rent the CL just to grab that part off it.
In case you make a 3.24 version of this you really should add the Reliant Kore. Some cargo, 2 S4 and 2 S2 weapons, decent agility. But the most important it is (currently) the cheapest ship in medium size, which means you`ll get a bigger personal hangar
Nice video. Just one feedback: I think style shouldn't be part of the scoring. It is so much up to personal taste. So what's the value of it in a tierlist? e.g. I don't like the RSI style as much but I love the MISC style. Whereas for you it seems to be the exact opposite. As this might be used as a sort of "recommendation" video for some people, I think you should leave that factor up to themselves. Specifically as for many people the looks can influence the enjoyment of a ship a lot.
Really good point. I did consider doing something at the end where I ignored those points and the ones for price just to see how things panned out. Completely forgot about it though. Think im going to do a revision in the pinned with some new bits of info I've gained from feedback. Appreciate it dude. o7
Great content thanks for putting this together. Personally I consider Freelancer a 10 on Style because it's not common as muck like the Cutty and shows that you don't follow the meta. Also completely agree, start cheap as possible and work your way up. Level of marketing spin and ramping by CGI for players to spend anything more is an insult.
My initial hunch before seeing the results was living quarters was worth too much and price not enough. That's kind of where I stopped and didn't over think it too much but I guess it would explain a lot of the top scorers. (Edit: I didn't really notice style was a 10 point category but it wasn't effectively working that way. It's not like anything is getting a zero or a ten. It's more of a 3 to 7 range so it's not like one ship is getting 9 or 10 points more simply on looks.) I think I'm still partial to the penguin though I'm not really sure how much master modes changed all these ships and the Titan does feel dated. And even though I wouldn't recommend someone to buy it as their first ship there's no arguing that the Connie isn't a pretty good all arounder. (If you want one I would still probably lean toward buy a cheaper ship squeezing in a couple CCUs and getting a Taurus for a while. It's both the cheapest ship for its size, holds the most cargo, and has the same guns and shields as the other Connies. It leaves the Corsair, MSR, 400i or any of the others Connies as possible upgrades in the future).
I love my C8X. I got star citizen when the C8X was on sale and the same price as the cheapest ships. For my play style my only complaint is that I can't get a skin that looks like a taxi. 😢I had big dreams of being a space cabby, puttering about and ferrying players.
I fly the Pisces a lot as a runabout, but to be more than that it misses a bed to logout/in on the ship. I use that a lot because it saves me time running through spaceports.
This is hard. It all depends on how you play the game. Alone it's hard to beat the nomad, it does every thing very well and has great amenities (still don't know how they didn't fit a shower in there...) but If you can man the turret on the cutlass it's a whole other story and if you plan to play with others, the connie is hard to pass up. Listing the andromeda as a starter is a stretch, though. Starting to play the game at a 300€ gamepack doesn't scream beginner. but it's there and it's glorious! I think the list turned out to be fair. I enjoy taking the nomad to space truck distilled space spirits to get people space drunk. Even have a Consolidated jacket and trucker cap to fit the role! Also the pilot chair look comfy as all hell. Well done, nice and tidy guide for beginners! also best outtakes so far on this one! o7!
Yeah it got pretty tricky tbh. I really didn't want it to scale directly with monetary value, it never used to I believe. Mainly because the cheapest fighters used to punch way higher than they do in this patch. But that's just how it came out in the end. Think I'm going to do a 100 series comparison next. Since it's getting alot of playtime. Also there was a vid I put out but not to subscribers about binds. Was testing the algorithm out a bit. Be paint drying if that's of no use to you though. Let me know if you seen it popping up anyway in your RUclips recommendations. Trying to figure out how that works. Thanks again for taking the time dude. Appreciate it immensely o7
@@Reds_Resort sure can, nust use a tractor beam on your muktitool instead of driving her in. You can actually drive it into the Gattac Syulen though, you missed that as well.
@@Reds_Resort hellz yes reds, keep up the good work. Also, just a heads up, you can fit the mirai pulse in the Aurora interior as well. And the 100i, though that one seems harder to get back out. There are some "will it fit" videos for the pulse... the answer is yes for any space that could technically fit 2 SCU, and some that dont even (like the Aurora interior). That pulse was a gamechanger man.
The Titan is the BEST starter ship....... Period!!! Next is the Aurora then is the Mustang (better version of it is the BETA Cuz it has a bed,.... But you gotta buy it, lol) The other way any of the other ships are better that the Titan is if you buy the packages.... Like the Cutlass black starter pack, Freelancer etc.... So... Yeah that's it, lol
@@tagged_sc_aka_pilotducky welcome back dude. Always a pleasure. Yeah I've been a lazy dog for a while now but we're back on it. (After this week long holiday I'm about to take that is 😂)
Yeah with fresh eyes this morning I don't like it much either. I thought it was funny at the time but it's not relevant to the video tbh. Be changing it later today.
Ok so a few things that I missed.
The Nomad has 2 gun racks by the entrance.
The syulen can take a Pulse bike.
The Mustang can take a Pulse bike if you tractor it in and out.
Combat for Freelancer should be a 7
Its pitch yaw and roll are actually slower than the Cutty
(I wrote 5 and said 6 XD)
A full revised list without style or price
Andromeda - 41
Freelancer 37
Nomad - 35
Cutty - 34
Cutter - 28
Titan - 26
100i - 23
Syulen - 23
Aurora MR - 15
Mustang - 16
Arrow - 16
C8X - 12
Can't argue, great list and ranking system!
Drake Cutters are such awesome ships. same rugged gorgeous drake style and nice mandalorian vibes.
@Viktoria_Thaelin I hated the Cutter initially. I saw it as nothing more than a more boxy Pisces. But now the ship is growing on me. There is something about that flying shoe box that I like, and I can't even tell what exactly what it is. I just like it!
In 3.23 it seems the Titan is possibly the best starter ship. You could literally melt your way into bounties with it, and it is great for PVP too since it seems this patch favors medium fighters. All while having a bed to log out, and cargo space for smuggling, or box delivery. The ship is great for bunker missions too since you can destroy towers with those guns. You can get all that without breaking the bank.
For me Taurus is a SSS for starter ship , but cause the price for new player i will put A
no ship over $100 should be a starting point.
Enjoyable video mate. Liked the way you scored the ships and tied them up based on reality not emotions. Good job
I've been playing star citizen for about a week now. I started with the Aurora MR Starter Pack (around $45 USD). It was cool to get started, but last night I upgraded the Aurora MR to the c8R Pisces for around ($35 USD, instead of paying $65). Im still not sure what im doing, but the pisces is the best "starter" ship imo because of the following: You have way more cargo room for beginner small cargo and delivery missions. More room to walk around inside and extra chair for a guide or someone trying to help you learn the game. The ship also seems to be loaded up with free med supplies all the time, which is cool for new players. You also have that medbed in there that you can set your respawn point to. I'm not sure what the heck is going on with Logging Out, if you have to do it in a bed or not. I would like to just start the game off in my ship in the hanger (or where I landed and logged out in the bed at). The pisces also has some ship guns, but as a new player i haven't found myself in too many space battles. Im mostly solo traveling, learning how to warp jump, exploring, getting use to flying, stuff like that. The ship also has two internal storage compartments which is super cool, one public and one private. and it was honestly hard to get stuff in and out of the aurora, having that ramp door is way better. For players who dont even want to be a medic, its still a good ship to start the game with, it helps with the learning curve.
@@HeyoWhatUp This is great. Glad you've found your your little space buddy. I think when it came out the C8R found a place in a lot of people hearts. I don't think you can log out in the bed unfortunately which is just annoying tbh. But you might be able to do a few of the lower level bounties in it. o7 and all the best out there. If you get stuck and have questions hit me up.
Thank you, i didnt realize i needed scottish spaceship tour ASMR in my life.
Nomad has 2 gun "racks" by the door. one point each side
I knew it in my freaking soul as well.
You forgot the 300 which was also one of the original pledge ships
Just signed up using your referral, got the titan pack . Cant wait to get back from work and give this a go and hopefully will enjoy this game!
Great video Red.
For me my starter ship will always be Nomad. It really is the best bang for your buck.
However for my two alt accounts, when you just need a good starting point, I have gone for 100i.
Cutty also comes very close when it comes to functionality.
When it comes to style though - Syulen is the best.
Loved the outtakes in the end :)
A very reasonable selection sir. I must agree with your choices. Think I'll be getting a freelancer for the next patch. Thing is insane these days.
I agreed with all of your points except for the cutlass black lol. It is not tanky at all and now that the freelancer has an additional size 2 shield (3 total) it way outperforms the cutlass black in almost every metric apart from the turret.
Agreed
Yeah imma have to push back on that a little. Your right the shield is massive, couldn't believe it honestly but after that it actually loses in every category, manoeuvring and hull primarily. Be good to see a match up though. I get the feeling that you may be right though that shield is going to be very hard to overcome. Cutlass might have met it's match here.
@@Reds_Resort have to agree on this one cutty still has combat over the freelancer
@@Reds_Resort the cutlass does have some manuverability over the freelancer but if you can shoot off one of the main engines, which is arguably very easy. The fight is basically over for the cutlass
Connie needs all the love it can get. Beautiful and lovely ship I wonder how effective it will be flown solo once engineering hits and before blades and AI crew will be a thing. That might hinder it a bit. Lovely list, and I'd say that indeed the Titan is still the best of the best. Or the Aurora if someone is wanting to start from the actual level 1. Tho did not know about the Mustangs little cargo rack, that seems very handy.
Yeah I've still not sat in a ship I didn't like tbh. 😂 I should be banned from doing these things. Was so hard to score things down.
Enjoyable watch, thanks.
Anytime citizen. o7
"shitting in a corner. Not washing your nasty ass" = me spitting my drink everywhere! Great video.
😂 Glad I got someone.
Very nicely done, and the only complaint I would voice is I'd have done the Taurus instead of the Andromeda.
Quick little tip that I remember a while although I'm not sure if it still applies in this patch. You can detach the cargo module of the Aurora CL using a tractor beam and put it on any other Aurora ship making that 3 scu go up to 6. And you can just rent the CL just to grab that part off it.
Great tip dude thankyou.
In case you make a 3.24 version of this you really should add the Reliant Kore.
Some cargo, 2 S4 and 2 S2 weapons, decent agility.
But the most important it is (currently) the cheapest ship in medium size, which means you`ll get a bigger personal hangar
@@Usgar excellent info thank you. Ao7
Nice video. Just one feedback: I think style shouldn't be part of the scoring. It is so much up to personal taste. So what's the value of it in a tierlist? e.g. I don't like the RSI style as much but I love the MISC style. Whereas for you it seems to be the exact opposite. As this might be used as a sort of "recommendation" video for some people, I think you should leave that factor up to themselves. Specifically as for many people the looks can influence the enjoyment of a ship a lot.
Really good point. I did consider doing something at the end where I ignored those points and the ones for price just to see how things panned out. Completely forgot about it though. Think im going to do a revision in the pinned with some new bits of info I've gained from feedback. Appreciate it dude. o7
Great content thanks for putting this together. Personally I consider Freelancer a 10 on Style because it's not common as muck like the Cutty and shows that you don't follow the meta. Also completely agree, start cheap as possible and work your way up. Level of marketing spin and ramping by CGI for players to spend anything more is an insult.
I feel you dude. I'm defo angling for a freelancer next patch. I had no idea, thing absolutely slaps.
My initial hunch before seeing the results was living quarters was worth too much and price not enough. That's kind of where I stopped and didn't over think it too much but I guess it would explain a lot of the top scorers. (Edit: I didn't really notice style was a 10 point category but it wasn't effectively working that way. It's not like anything is getting a zero or a ten. It's more of a 3 to 7 range so it's not like one ship is getting 9 or 10 points more simply on looks.)
I think I'm still partial to the penguin though I'm not really sure how much master modes changed all these ships and the Titan does feel dated.
And even though I wouldn't recommend someone to buy it as their first ship there's no arguing that the Connie isn't a pretty good all arounder. (If you want one I would still probably lean toward buy a cheaper ship squeezing in a couple CCUs and getting a Taurus for a while. It's both the cheapest ship for its size, holds the most cargo, and has the same guns and shields as the other Connies. It leaves the Corsair, MSR, 400i or any of the others Connies as possible upgrades in the future).
I love my C8X. I got star citizen when the C8X was on sale and the same price as the cheapest ships. For my play style my only complaint is that I can't get a skin that looks like a taxi. 😢I had big dreams of being a space cabby, puttering about and ferrying players.
I fly the Pisces a lot as a runabout, but to be more than that it misses a bed to logout/in on the ship. I use that a lot because it saves me time running through spaceports.
This is hard. It all depends on how you play the game. Alone it's hard to beat the nomad, it does every thing very well and has great amenities (still don't know how they didn't fit a shower in there...) but If you can man the turret on the cutlass it's a whole other story and if you plan to play with others, the connie is hard to pass up. Listing the andromeda as a starter is a stretch, though. Starting to play the game at a 300€ gamepack doesn't scream beginner. but it's there and it's glorious! I think the list turned out to be fair.
I enjoy taking the nomad to space truck distilled space spirits to get people space drunk. Even have a Consolidated jacket and trucker cap to fit the role! Also the pilot chair look comfy as all hell.
Well done, nice and tidy guide for beginners! also best outtakes so far on this one! o7!
Yeah it got pretty tricky tbh. I really didn't want it to scale directly with monetary value, it never used to I believe. Mainly because the cheapest fighters used to punch way higher than they do in this patch. But that's just how it came out in the end. Think I'm going to do a 100 series comparison next. Since it's getting alot of playtime. Also there was a vid I put out but not to subscribers about binds. Was testing the algorithm out a bit. Be paint drying if that's of no use to you though. Let me know if you seen it popping up anyway in your RUclips recommendations. Trying to figure out how that works. Thanks again for taking the time dude. Appreciate it immensely o7
I have nothing to ur accent, but I understand only half what ur saying 😂
Pretty sure captions work pretty well for some reason. God knows how.
His accent was half the reason I subscribed! 😂
Accent its good i understand all im not native speaker
@@Reds_Resortwhat is your accent I love it
@@everythingpony I'm from Fife in Scotland. Thankyou.
Mustang Alpha should not have gotten a "0" on ground vehicles, it can carry a Mirai Pulse in its cargo bin.
No way. Really? And you can get it in and out ok?it crossed my mind but I though nah.
@@Reds_Resort sure can, nust use a tractor beam on your muktitool instead of driving her in. You can actually drive it into the Gattac Syulen though, you missed that as well.
@@ParagonFangXen ok going to have to start a pinned comment. Never even though about this. Cheers dude. Where there a will there's a way.
@@Reds_Resort hellz yes reds, keep up the good work. Also, just a heads up, you can fit the mirai pulse in the Aurora interior as well. And the 100i, though that one seems harder to get back out. There are some "will it fit" videos for the pulse... the answer is yes for any space that could technically fit 2 SCU, and some that dont even (like the Aurora interior). That pulse was a gamechanger man.
@@ParagonFangXen bruh. I need to try this.
The Titan is the BEST starter ship....... Period!!!
Next is the Aurora
then is the Mustang (better version of it is the BETA Cuz it has a bed,.... But you gotta buy it, lol)
The other way any of the other ships are better that the Titan is if you buy the packages.... Like the Cutlass black starter pack, Freelancer etc....
So... Yeah that's it, lol
Nice video Red!!
Thanks dude, appreciate you stopping by. o7
@@Reds_Resort o7 First time watching your videos in a while..
@@tagged_sc_aka_pilotducky welcome back dude. Always a pleasure. Yeah I've been a lazy dog for a while now but we're back on it. (After this week long holiday I'm about to take that is 😂)
@@Reds_Resort 🤣👍👍
good show
What? not covering the UEE EXPLORATION 2950
😂😂 it's a "starter" pack
More like an ender pack. Ender of marriages and wallets.
Simples:
1. Buy the cheapest starter pack
Or
2. Buy the space penguin
:D
That is strong Eastern accent ;)
Good video! But my favourite and coolest ship in the game is missing. The Reliant Kore!
As u have the Conni what about the Corsair?
I only covered what was available in store as a starter pack. Would have loved to cover it otherwise.
@@Reds_Resort ah gotcha
le constellation est moche, vieux et re moche. autant prendre un C1
Thanks, cool vid. My choice is a Cutter. Titan I can't stand for some reason - that curved body is disgusting 😅
What in the hell is that thumbnail dude you may get clicks with it but your going to lose allot of retention doing bs like that
Yeah with fresh eyes this morning I don't like it much either. I thought it was funny at the time but it's not relevant to the video tbh. Be changing it later today.
300i?
Sorry dude. It wasn't a starter pack when I looked whilst making the video.
@@Reds_Resort Oh yeah my bad:)