Sanitizing freshwater tank with bleach and bypassing the Truma Combi - Coachmen Beyond
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- A very important step to do when sanitizing a Truma Combi and using bleach. I show how to bypass the Truma Combi in this video.
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Gardner to the rescue! Just what I needed! Love you, Man!
I'm so glad to help!
Thank you again for this video Gard. I watched it again to make sure I remembered everything to do for the sanitizing.
Let me know if you need any help.
Thank you for this video!!!! I have had my Beyond 22C for about 9 months now. The Truma was only heating to luke warm water no matter what I did. I figured there was scaling inside the tank or some problem with the unit. I watched your video and had a light bulb go off above my head. I checked and, sure enough, the bypass valve was open. It was mixing cold water with the hot output from the Truma. I closed it off and now it runs perfectly hot. Thanks so much for all your videos!
Very glad I helped you! And thanks for subscribing to my channel, I appreciate everyone that supports my channel.
Great job Gardiner. You are an invaluable asset to the FB group and have given me so much info and ideas over the time I have had my Crossfit.
Thank you very much! That means a lot to me.
Thank you. Very thorough & good camera/video viewing shots. Helpful explanation along the way.👍🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Thank you.
Camping Coastie Looks like a good size space where the drawer is located or is it the fish eye camera lens? Would you be able to measure how long that entire kitchen counter is? Guessing maybe 3.5’ or 4 feet long & 22" deep?
The kitchen counter is 46.5" wide and 19" deep. The opening in the cabinet where that drawer fits is 22.5" wide and 7.5" deep. The lens is somewhat a wide angle, but not a fish eye.
Thank you for another great video. You do an outstanding job of explaining every step. Thanks for taking the time to make these videos. George in FL
Thank you. We will be home soon and I will be sanitizing my system again. I will also be doing a black tank flush and deep cleaning.
My husband and I are shopping for a camper van and have watched many of your videos. We have come to the conclusion that the Coachmen Beyond will best fit our needs, however, we have not yet decided whether the C or D would be best for us. The main point of interest is the size of the bed. Your C has the rear lounge and I wonder if you can tell me the length of the sofa slide when it is down (w/o including the jump seats). So far, we haven't been able to find any specifications for that. We watched the sanitizing video today and also wondered how often that procedure is recommended. BTW, the Coachmen factory tour was extremely helpful--other camper vans don't appear to come up to the quality of workmanship shown in the that video. Many thanks for posting your videos. We will keep watching.
I sanitize my tank after if we have not used it for awhile. Some people say at the beginning of the camping season, at least once every six months or anytime your water smells bad or taste stale.
The sofa when in the down position is 64" from side to side and 48" front to back.
I also want to thank you for watching my videos! If you have any other questions let me know.
@@CampingCoastie Thank you so very much for your replies to my questions. It is very nice of you to reply so quickly and for taking the time to measure the sofa area for me. I look forward to watching more of your videos--they are the best!
Thank you very much for your helpful and informative videos! Just ordered a 2021 Beyond 22-C AWD Li3 and am watching your videos to get ready for the delivery. Very helpful, Thanks! Chris
Congratulations! Let me know if you have any questions.
@@CampingCoastie, thanks very much! That's very nice and I appreciate the input. Have a great day, Chris
Good information. Thanks for showing how to do this operation.
Thanks, glad to help.
How often do you perform this task? Every six months, once a year, after every long trip?
The way we travel is pretty much anytime of the year, so we don’t have a beginning of travel season. So what I do is typically twice a year, once in February and once in August. But sometimes you might fill with bad water from somewhere. I usually sniff the water before attaching the hose to my van, if it smells bad I won’t use it.
But if I ever notice my tank water smelling odd I will drain it and do the sanitizing procedure.
Thank you for your hard work making this video! Love the Great step by step info! Happy Travels and Thanks for your Service! Was Navy here! 😄🚐🌴
Thanks. And thank you for your service too!
Gard, you always do a great job on these videos. Thank you. I recently watched a video of a Travato owner cleaning the in-line water filter screens on her rig, which seemed to be a challenging process because of the location of these tiny, mesh, in-line filters. Since you showed us the process for sanitizing the fresh tank, could you also show us the process for changing and cleaning any in-line filters and explain how often this needs to be done? Thank you very much.
Thanks. I have looked and haven't found any inline filters, other than the one I put on my hose. There are little screen filters under the black caps where you hook up fresh and city water, but that's all I know of.
Thanks for the video. I have not bypassed my truma (oops) but luckily I have not used it yet. Not having a gravity fill what I do is I bought one of the water filters, remove the filter, fill the canister with bleach or vinegar and connect from the house to the canister and than from the canister to the fresh water tank. Works great except for me not bypassing the truma. Guess I better flush everything again. Thanks for your video. Guessing that you have the LI3 since your water tank is outside, mine is inside under the couch.
Interesting idea with the filter, but remember you only need about a half cup of bleach. Just flush it real good before you turn on the Truma.
@@CampingCoastie I should clarify I use about a cup of bleach on the canister, than fill up the water tank 30 something gallons. Run the water through the lines and toilet, fill up the gray and black tank with water let it stand over night after driving the van about 50 miles around the city.
@@shelley131 Sounds good
After you've done the bleachy water thing & are into the phase of draining & continually diluting the small amount of bleachy water left because the egress port is higher than the bottom of the tank could you perhaps drive the opposite side of the van up onto some blocks of some kind, maybe 4-5 inches high to “tilt” the tank some & get more of the remaining bleachy water to drain requiring a small number of refills to totally get rid of the residual bleach. Probably a crazy idea by someone who doesn't have their Beyond yet.
I do drive it up on a set of leveling blocks when I winterize it to try and get most of the water out.
This is a must for my husband to watch! Also where did you get the small map of the USA showing the states you have visited! Great video!
I ordered the sticker from this company.
www.etsy.com/listing/599263880/mini-usa-decal-map-tracker-us-decal
another great video. Thanks again
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you, I do not own a Beyond yet but am learning so much. I have heard if some one is riding in the back it can be very bumpy. Would it be possible for you to do a short video showing the ride from someone sitting in the rear? Thanks so much for doing these videos!
Thanks for watching. Great idea, I'll ask my wife to sit in the back with the camera.
Than you for your inspiring videos!
Why is it nessesery to bypass the Truma Combi? Wouldn' t the sanitizing of hot water part be good in order to kill the germs there?
You bypass the water heater when you are sanitizing the fresh water tank and waterlines in the RV. Truma does not want people to get bleach inside of the Truma Combi. I am not sure what happens, but was told that the chlorine gets hot it causes problems.
I am not sure, but it would seem that the water getting hot would kill bacteria. However, usually you boil water to kill bacteria, so I don't think it would get hot enough. I need to check with Truma to find out the way they suggest sanitizing their Combi.
Thanks for the great video. Can you tell me where you got the little map? Thanks!
Thanks. I bought it from Shraderland Designs on Etscy. www.etsy.com/listing/599263880/mini-usa-decal-map-tracker-us-decal
thanks!
I understand the reasoning for bypassing the Truma but how does the tank inside the hot water heater get sanitized? Does the heating of the water take care of that? Do you fill and flush it out a few times with clean water? Please let me know what you do. Thank you.
When you heat the water on the boost cycle it should pretty much sanitize it. But it has to be the boost which gets the water hotter.
This is from Truma’s website:
“The water container on the Truma Combi heater should be regularly sterilised and descaled. Any standard cleaning products stocked by specialist camping retailers can be used for cleaning, sterilisation and maintenance. It is important that products are used according to manufacturer specifications in the correct dosage and with the correct exposure time.
You can also regularly heat the water in the Combi heater to 70°C to prevent the growth of microorganisms. To do this, set the water temperature to
60°C (on the CP plus control panel, HOT setting), leave the appliance switched on for at least 30 minutes, and do not use any hot water during this time. Once the water reaches a temperature of 60°C, the burner switches off and the residual heat in the heat exchanger heats the water to 70°C.
You can use standard descaling products from specialist camping retailers, acetic acid or citric acid to descale the water container.
Add the cleaning or descaling products in the recommended mixing ratio to the appliance via the water intake and allow them to work. Then flush the Truma Combi as part of your water system thoroughly with fresh water.”
Just wondering Why The Coachmen Beyond ? compared to your Pleasureway Plateau? is the Beyond a better choice?
For us the Beyond is a better choice. I really wanted a gasoline powered RV with a compressor refrigerator. I wanted a quality built RV and one comfortable to drive. The Beyond met all of our wants and needs.
The PleasureWay Plateau is a wonderful Class B but it's diesel and a 3 way refrigerator and I really didn't want that.
Did you miss the shower head in the bathroom? It should also but cleaned out.
My Beyond uses the sink faucet as the shower head.
Well, I should have watched this before I did a fresh tank sanitize with bleach. I didn’t bypass the Truma. I flushed the system 3 times and used a chlorine test strip to confirm none remaining in system. Have I totally screwed up my Truma? I haven’t had to use the hot water nor heater since this episode.
You will be okay. Just never turn on the Truma with water in the Truma contains bleach or antifreeze. You are safe after flushing it out several times.
@@CampingCoastie That's good news. I have to flush again today and might just winterize 'cuz here in NC we're gonna get low temps. However, I also reviewed you winterizing videos and in one you mentioned just blowing out the lines. Is this realistic for NC (Raleigh-Durham)?
@@MsIvyleager It works for many people where the temperature doesn’t go to far below freezing. Just make sure to blow out everything including the outside shower and toilet. I would also take the clear cap off the water pump and clean the little filter while there too.
Thanks again For a great video. Question for you if we are part time, and the coach will sit every so often. How often would you recommend doing this? If it’s sits for six months? Or possibly even sooner say every three months if it sits?
I would drain the water from the fresh tank and open the low point drains so stagnant water wouldn't sit there. I would sanitize it before going out on trips were it sat there for three months or more without using it. And sanitize it if anytime the water smells bad.
@@CampingCoastie Great thank you. I see that your water tank is on the outside, I'm assuming you have the LI3, I would assume for the non-LI3 models with the tank inside the release valve is probably in a similar space (with the exception of maybe a tube going down to the ground below the floorboard)
@@sasstewart1222 Yes, I have the Li3 and my water tank is outside. I believe on the 22C AGM model the valves are in about the same location.
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Thanks!
Is there an easy way of doing this Bleach to rinse your Fresh Tanks. Is there a checklist that coachmen RV provide as a guide ? Not sure Why you need this procedure since your Van is Brand New? How often do you recommend doing this bleach process. .
Hello. Your should sanitize your freshwater tank at least at the beginning of your traveling season. That is because some people let their RV sit unused for several months. It is also best to sanitize your system every six months, its just a step to keep your freshwater system safe to drink or cook from.
You should also sanitize the system if you every start to get bad or foul smelling water from your faucets.
I sanitize my systems usually in October and May. That works for me and my schedule.
So Gard dud you ever try with the vinegar solution and if used it would you no longer need to bypass the Truma? Could you not use the same technique to get the vinegar solution in that you used to get the diluted bleach in?
I have always used bleach, I know it works. Many people use vinegar, it’s a great disinfectant. You could get it into your tank the same way through the house.
@@CampingCoastie Thank you. The other question was, if you know, if using vinegar could you then avoid having to bypass the Truma? Thanks again
As far as I know white vinegar is good to sanitize with, it even will descale the system. I need to check with Truma for the proper way to do it and make a video.
@@CampingCoastie Thank you Gard. Always a great source of information and so responsive. .
Been following your postings, very much like your comments about the Beyond, is the Pro air 20k A/C loud inside the cab when you run it . You have showed the A/C turned on compared to road work construction outside in one video post. Is it fair to say we have to use ear plugs to get a good night sleep while it’s running?
The ProAir is very quiet. We are watching TV right now , the volume is set on 23 which is about quarter volume. The AC fan is set at 25% and it can hardly be heard.
I measure with my phone 48 decibels with the TV playing, 42 decibels with the TV muted. Inside the AC is very quiet.
Iam very much considering your coachmen beyond C li3 so far have you encountered problems in the RV. ?
So far the only problem was the water pump needed to be adjusted some. The dealer did that on the walk through, took about 5 minutes.
Hi! I want to empty my fresh water tank today…would I just flip that brass fitting as shown at the end of this video?
The brass valve will drain the Truma. There should be a white plastic handle valve to drain the freshwater tank. It’s location depends on what floor plan and battery you have. Which floor plan and battery do you have?
@@gardsnyder5657 hi Gard, thank you for responding…I have the 22D and the GSM battery. My pipes froze last night with water in them. I opened the faucets and now have the heat on. Am I in deep doodoo?
@@kimcraige I am sorry you have this problem. A lot depends on how hard of a freeze and what got frozen. Your freshwater tank is under one of your beds. Look for the white hose coming out of it and turn the white handle on the valve in-line with the hose. That will drain The freshwater tank. The should be a blue and red pipe near each other with valves that are your low point drains, open those. Hopefully you can heat the inside of the van to at least in the 60s to thaw anything if possible and keep from freezing more.
Make sure your water pump is off, with the low points open it needs to be off. Attach your blue shower hose and squeeze the handle to hopefully let the pipe in the van wall to drain. It should come out the low point drain. Make sure to drain the Truma too.
What part of the country are you located, what is the outside temperature?
@@gardsnyder5657 I’m in Chapel Hill, NC. Warmer days, 25 degrees last night. Thank you so, so much.
@@gardsnyder5657 the temp now is 37 and I turned the heat on in the van.
What is the tank size of the truma combi eco plus? IE how much hot water does it provide?
I think the tank holds about 2.6 gallons of water.
@@CampingCoastie 2.6 gallons? That doesn't seem like much for a shower
@@mweber2000 It can heat the water fairly quick. Taking long showers is not something you do in most RVs, taking navy showers is the way to shower. Doing that we have always had enough hot water.
@@gardsnyder5657 thank you
How do you adjust the temperature for the outside shower, or is it not adjustable?
It is only cold. But the benefit for that is only a small port on the side, not a big flap on the side. I really prefer the stealthier look, I know it still looks like an RV, but it doesn't scream RV.
@@CampingCoastie Thank you for the clarification. I prefer stealth too!