Slater Brown he didn't but he is the first person. I've heard articulate why I try to live my life the way I do. I guess my parents, and schooling imprinted these things without me really understanding why. My biggest wake up has been, that not everyone has ever been told these things.
If you told me 15 years ago... that I'd be listening to the guy from fear factor, speaking to a Jungian Canadian superstar, during the presidency of Donald Trump...and having one of the most transformative internal debates within myself I would say, bullshit. Yet here we are. I made my bed this morning, threw out my cigarettes, whiskey and beer. Good luck everyone.
Its a pretty strange time. Im right there with you. Just think though, we have this guy for probably 30 more years. One of us could be the next Jordan Peterson too.
I think sometimes about Peterson's wife. I recently saw the documentary on Peterson on amazon prime and she says she has "lost her husband to the world". I would assume because of all the time it takes up for his (what I would call) crusade. She has stood by him and "been a great help". I think maybe both Jordan and Tammy Peterson have made considerable sacrifices for our benefit. For that I am grateful.
From 1:17:00 and that next 7 minutes really spoke to me - hating essays in school BECAUSE the subjects assigned were of zero interest. Decades passed, I became a journalist/essayist, refining and clarifying my thoughts "on paper", exploring subjects that I was passionate about, even if it was for an audience of one. I am so grateful to have had one or two moments in my life where someone has thanked me for being the catalyst for their own self-improvement. They did the hard work but they were thanking me... so humbling.
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not really about "curing" its a product of biological insentives women are given at birth, which makes them more inclined to psychological issues as we see it today but if you go far enough back theres a biological reasoning behind why women are more proned to depression and anxiety and men more inclined for violent and anti social behaviour and yes, JP mentions this just wanted to point it out anywho
MindSmash hey can you cover some side videos with people like Dr. Peterson you cover things very well so I would love to hear what you think of motivational people like him thank I love your videos to by the way my favorite is the one about DC and his child
Listening to JP is becoming so much more interesting, intriguing and wholesome than church services on Sunday...If you listen well enough, its so much better!!....Such a blessing this man is to mankind....Pastors and reverends...take notes!!!.....
I've identified two problems. There are probably more. 1. The most significant problem is that >95% of churches are feminist. They redact whole sections of the Bible because they offend modern feminist sensibilities, their sensibilities. Feminism and Christianity are not merely mutually exclusive; they are in a battle to the death. When churches become feminist, the Word is corrupted, and they become heretical. 2. They self-censor to avoid losing their 501c3 tax exemption. Churches have submitted to government bribery and censorship.
I guess it depends who you listen to on Sundays. I've had that same feeling in the past too, but it went away once i started to listen to pastors who did expository preaching so well, that i was eager to hear the rest of the message. And of course, it also helps that later in life, i went from cultural Christian to someone who truly believes in Jesus Christ. It made the Sunday messages much more interesting, once i had love for who the message was about.
That might be true to you, but for the most people in the world that just isn't true. If you are poor and you family has been poor for generations, there is generally very very little that you can do for that - even in the 1st world coutries.
I make my bed every morning now. My eating style is changing. I expect more of myself, and others, and my conversations. My life is getting deeper and more interesting. Thank you, gentleman! From a middle age, white, American woman....
As I read through most of the comments , it becomes clear that I'm part of something big and something truly of value . I want to be smarter and wiser , and also more aware of what's actually going on in the world . tHANKS
I’m not religious more of a Christopher Hitchens person but I like JP because he argues well in the philosophical way. Has great independent thinking, and shares this, encouraging others, knows his subject, doesn’t stand nonsense, has a deep caring, talks about subjects others wouldn’t. Always worth listening to.
yeah but i've never understood how religious people fall so short then. they fly planes into our buildings and kill 7000 people... that's obviously what the bible says NOT to do...i'm sure it also states the same in whatever "book" like the Koran and any other volume. so , given that, why are religious people murderous beyond belief? even if they don't KILL anyone, they still picket gay funerals, they still step over the homeless person dressed in their best sunday suit to hypocritically show off their piety. given all that, i'd have to agree with Hitchens, that religion poisons EVERYthing. when we can actually golden rule our lives, i'll swallow your religion whole. but since that IS NOT what i see happening when our preists diddle little boys, then avoid procecution and relocate to another field where they can repeat it. there should be no such thing as a rich church, yet the vatican has more gold than morals in any case. so we follow the "book" as interpeted any way we want to , you know, to break the rules stated clearly, but doesn't apply to them at all. they also shouldn't be tax free just because they were taught religion while their brains were still soft at age 5
As a theologically conservative, conventionally religious Christian, I must stress that Jordan Peterson's Christianity isn't Christianity in any historically meaningful sense. He is a Jungian who borrows Christian imagery and applies his own meanings to it. I enjoy Dr Peterson's material for the most part, but he's causing confusion about what Christianity is. For those of us concerned with doctrinal orthodoxy, we have a lot of trouble with Dr. Peterson's use of Christian symbolism. Lest it be said that this is an issue of interpretation, Biblical scholars, linguists and the like can demonstrate where Dr. Peterson and Mr. Pageau err in their understanding of the text, so the issues are matters of fact rather than interpretation.
Introduced a 17 year-old student to Dr Peterson's podcasts as he was a self described nihilist and very deep thinker. He look so sad the day I met him. He said life was not worth living. I was concerned for him. There appeared to be a darkness in his face as we talked and he seemed without hope. I saw him again yesterday. Wow different young guy. Standing taller, happier, there was a light in his face... He couldn't wait to share he was still listening to Dr Peterson's talks and was really enjoying them. I am so grateful I had something to offer him that first day I met him that made a difference to him.
ian giovanni Ya like the cult of mindless trolls you belong to who dedicate their lives to leaving negative comments on positive comments such as this one.
Although I’m not that bright myself, I’m loving this shift towards smart educated brains becoming mega stars instead these brain dead people on reality tv.
Brad Boetig the best way to understand the value of iq, is that iq is your ability to learn. I have a friend who I have known for a while. He was the opposite of a smart guy in highschool but when he got to college he delved deep into expanding his knowledge. He is one of my smartest friends now. He is someone with a low IQ who is smarter than most people I know with higher IQ.
I love no interruptions. Just being able to listen and not reach for the pass , so I could just listen and close my eyes and get comfortable. Thank you so much.
00:15 - Peterson's huge lectures/discussions 1:58 - Peterson and Sam Harris 4:20 - The emergence of complex long form discussions/content 9:34 - Why is there a tendency to label public intellectuals as alt right, leftists etc (why is everything politics?) 14:33 - Are universities responsible for establishing norms/opinions that you cannot deviate form publically? 18:04 - How and why hierarchies arise in the psyche and the world 19:50 - Why there needs to be an ongoing conversation between the left and the right 22:18 - Peterson on writing the preface to The Gulag Archipelago and dividing the world into opressor and oppressed 27:07 - Why is left always associated in support of the gay right, all races all genders etc. Does that make them more virtuous? 34:56 - Equality of outcome 36:35 - What do you do with disspossed people (people with low IQ)? 38:06 - Radical left is compassion gone mad ...... and envy 41:19 - Life is not a game. It is a series of games 48:06 - how to behave when you lose 53:07 - Rule 4: Compare yourself to who were yesterday not to who someone is today (from Peterson's 12 Rules book) 01:01:42 - Why do you have to aim low to improve? 01:10:32 - Why is Peterson's book an antidote to chaos if chaos has so much potential? and being critically honest with yourself 01:16:20 - Why bother thinking? 01:18:14 - Meaning is an instinct and responsibility makes your life more meaningful 01:25:23 - Why is Jordan Peterson misrepresented so much? 01:31:33 - Incels and enforced monogamy 01:40:48 - Women are hypergamous 01:48:38 - The gender pay gap 01:51:31 - Tempramental differences between men and women 01:56:44 - Left wing people a motivated by compassion but also envy 01:59:48 - Who's the 1% ? 02:01:44 - Why are people opposed to challenging cultural norms ? 02:05:39 - Peterson's Vice interview and sexual behaviour in the workplace 02:17:14 - It isn't necessarily a mistake to lay yourself open to attack.....(Cathy Newman interview) 02:21:32 - Should Peterson stop doing interviews that'll be edited to avoid controversies? 02:23:58 - Peterson didn't plan to go from University proffesor to household name 02:27:13 - Why Joe Rogan is successful on youtube according to JP and technological revolution of speech being as good as written word 02:37:36 - 12 Rules for not allowed to be a New York Times best seller due to arbitrary rules 02:38:58 - Death spiral for a big organisation, click bait, and news becoming ideological 02:44:42 - JPs carnivore diet 02:57:24 - Why is everyone fat and stupid? 03:00:29 - Arthiritis and fasting 03:06:23 - Are dietry studies reliable ? 03:10:59 - Biological variability and diet 03:13:43 - The intellectual dark web
I'm gonna save you some time. Find any old innane self-help crap, add missunderstood biology, politics, economy and pop-psych. Dust with bits of madness and romanticizing aristocracy and boom.
@RBS Yes, because it's better to live like a dog and always be in pursuit of the "one up" version of your life and live in anxiety that you are not enough and nothing you do will be as good as the thing you can do that will be slightly better. I used to like Peterson, but lately it's become more obvious how abstract and obfuscated his views are and that is not the person id follow...
@RBS No you're not, you completely misrepresented my issue with that quote and now you're pivoting to a different point as if that wasn't an error on your part, it's pointless to argue with you since you apparently don't see how what he's saying is dumb and what I'm saying has nothing to do with other people AT ALL let alone women....
Lol or you become stressed out of your mind. A lot of the things Peterson is great but keep in mind with all these guru types... there is no one answer. It’s the human condition. Take inspiration from it but realize no man has the answer.
Last night, I fell asleep watching bible stories, and woke up around 2:00 am to this video. It sounded so interesting , I was almost tempted to get up and watch it, but i made a mental note to watch later. I did not know it would be so long, but once I started listening , I was immersed into the deep, thoughtful conversations. I normally listen to music on the ride to take the kids to school, but this was hooked up to the bluetooth . Even my 14 and 6 year old sons were engaged. This is rare. Two absolutely brilliant minds. I enjoyed the way they literally complemented each other. There were so many gems dropped, I had to take notes📝
It's captivating because it is a revelation that is being suppressed, and those who are outside of politics can resonate with it. It's the God D*** truth!
Joe Rogan reflects all the guests he has on, not just JP... just look at his attire change when he talks to MMA guys, hunters, scientists, and celebrities.... we all do it subconsciously
This man has changed my life I was an addict I started listening to his seminars I got myself off pills started going to school for my CDL license It took two years I failed alot but I stuck with it I own my own home I'm about to get married and start a family I plan to teach my son or daughter the same values he taught me
Wow! How did I not see this until today? For being 4 years old it feels as though you are talking about what is currently happening! I am so thankful you stepped up!
Not necessarily. He is saying it's the best system we got but it's flawed and we need to figure out how to improve it. As he sees it right now the best way is to improve the individual.
@Ezra Goldfinkelsteinberg The fact that you had to resort to name calling and bending and exaggerating what Dr. Peterson said already proves that you don't have a valid point. Also since the things you said weren't even remotely true, I think that especially shows how lost you are in this argument.
@Ezra Goldfinkelsteinberg Again, you're just throwing insults and bending the view/opinion of the person you don't agree with. Sure, you can say I'm worshiping JP and call me a kid. But in the end, that doesn't do anything other than put me down and make me feel like my opinion is invalid, at least I assume that's what you're trying to do. Anyways, I would try to change your mind about JP but I doubt an arguement/debate online will make a difference. So sry you feel that way, but hey, we all have a right to our opiniond. So cya and have a good life.
I think these never stop. Or plate is shifting away from Europe at about the rate a fingernail grows, nearly two metres in a human lifetime. In 250million years, the earth may have only one continent. We are losing a lot of oceanfront, man!
Sometimes thoughts are traps that defeat meaning. Religion too. I've found seeing and examining the outside world makes one wise. Madness, shallowness and disdain, even "narcissism" come from thinking heavily. I contend, if one focuses on their logic, their idea of it, they can follow a mind-path of ideas and concepts into oblivion. This is the problem with many liberals and the far right.
Same here. I always wondered if i'm an ignorant because I don't care about our country's politics. With Jordan, i found out that i choose to not engage in political conversations because people here are so one-sided when they do talk about it.
Keep trying. You'll find at least one person eventually. One great thing about life is that once you meet a person, there's a million other people out there who have a lot of the same traits. There's people like Jordan and Joe all over the place hiding in plain sight, waiting for you to engage in an interesting conversation with them.
I cleaned my room and it was incredibly empowering. It had been messy for a year. It was gross, to be honest. Now it's clean and I feel like it uncluttered my mind as well. Like the state of my room was an extension of the state of my mind. Edit: I didn't clean it because JP told me to, it was just relevant to this podcast.
non-western people.... always trying to put leashes on women and children. Damn bro, I bet your room is a travesty and your family system is akin to new age slavery. Peace be upon you...Love, Jesus.
Part of that is cleaning a little every day. It's something I struggle with as well. It's so "easy" to just drop something on a chair or leave it on a desk rather than put it away. Which contributes to clutter. Part of this folds back to the personal responsibility and how we go about managing our responsibilities, first to ourselves and then moving out from there. I'm not great at it either, hell I keep trying to get the motivation to start working out to improve myself, it's hard and I find myself pushing on all sorts of margins trying to be better. It's hard. It sucks. It's also rewarding.
Since discovering Jordan Peterson online and watching his videos, I got myself out of dead end retail work and into IT. I enjoy my work, I'm studying a lot to get qualified to move up in my new career, passed my driving test and I'm on the road. Im 29. Should not have taken me this long. Getting your act together and throwing some effort into the world is incredibly rewarding. Not just my professional life, but my personal life too. Just gotta tidy my room now...
Best of luck to you friend, I'm on the same path from retail into IT, just started 2 weeks ago and it's amazing how quickly it all unfolded once I made my mind up and cleaned my room so to speak. Jordan has been a breeze of fresh air to my existence, much needed and longed for. Keep going friend, best of luck!
5M views for watching 2 people talking for 3+ hours, with both agreeing and dissenting views without shouting over each other, calling each other some kind of -ism/ist, and just having an actual normal discussion. This is what our country needs. Not hatred, not berating or denigrating each other, just having a personal conversation between an American and a Canadian(ehhh)
C G Russell Brand had him on his podcast and their communication dynamic was cordial. Russell gets goofy and funny but it was a great conversation. They covered different topics.
To be fair, this is two people who essentially share their fundamental world view and respect each other. It's not going to get heated. It's essentially an echo chamber. I agree with your overall sentiment though. It's amazing that content of this depth becomes this popular, when we've seen the trend media takes with short, click-baity videos and articles.
@@LCaaroe It may have to do with one of them being a traditional conservative and the other a traditional liberal. They are more central in their beliefs and can come together to discuss difficult subjects in a cordial manner. If you put even 1 polarized /extreme person in a conversation, typically nothing is learned because they are unwilling/insecure to accept any other views that contradict their own. We as people/countries/world need to meet in the middle to be able to actually HEAR/UNDERSTAND and enevidably LEARN about each other. Media/gov't are trying their hardest to polarize the world and they are winning at this point.. but I have faith we will see through this before it is too late.
This dude makes me wanna lift weights as I think about a problem I'm working on, in order to get tired enough to need a nap... ...just so I get to make my bed again.
Go lift weights then! No one at the gym is going to judge you, it’s all in your head. I was a lank 6’2” 155. 14 months later I’m now 200lbs. All you have to do is go. Just tell yourself no bullshitin, nose to the grindstone. No excuses anymore.
I’m torn. On the one hand I know we could use more of Dr. Peterson’s wisdom. On the other hand he shouldn’t have to burden all of this evil. Besides telling the truth, and following his advice, what can we do to help him and help each other? Take care of yourselves.
We better ourselves and continue passing the torch. We need to continue to educate ourselves and be open-minded. Ill admit, ive been listening to JP like hes the messiah lately and I need to diversify.
Sounds like a fantastic opportunity to take on more responsibility in our individual lives the best way we can! He's given the answer to just this question! I feel the same way I'm regards to him stepping back into the spotlight for sure.
Had the privilege to see Dr. Peterson last week in Detroit MI, it was worth every penny. I felt like a child on Christmas enjoying the lecture with my wife. God Bless you for all you do, Dr. Peterson spoke highly of Joe Rogan as well! Was a true blessing
My husband and I have tickets to see Dr. Peterson in Billings, MT in May and it's hard to wait!!! I'm glad to hear you enjoyed it...but then, it's Jordan, so how can the event be anything but amazing, right?!! 😁 He is a treasure!
I think he is a bit twisted (we all are, I guess), but well intentioned; doesn't make him or what he is saying an asset, but I think people mischaracterize him.
As every other human, he has his pros and cons, he is otherwise very polarizing. He has interesting ideas but he is really slow at recognizing failures or cognitive bias from his side (nothing wrong with that, everybody does it). I am kind of in the middle because he has some really interesting stuff to say but then he goes into religion (and other wacky stuff), when he obviously knows he has nothing on it, still he keeps pushing some themes which do not really resonate with everyone.
More than 5 millions of views for two guys talking during more than 3 hours. This is how strong those statements are resonating with a whole generation of human beings. That's huge bro.
and 0 of the 5 million watched the video in its entirety. people take bits and pieces that reinforce pre existing beliefs. What cultivates a belief is a traumatic experience. meaning is hinged on a persons experiences, and the meanings they relate to those experiences. nobody will change their opinion by watching these podcasts.
@@JackJackKcajify I think you're speaking for yourself. Many people listen to the entire discussion. Maybe nothing changes for you because you never see anything through to the end. Hundreds of thousands of people also read books by the likes of Peterson.
1:29:16 - Yeah, Joe really goes for JBP's balls here. Keeping the scepticism up but he does it because he knows JBP can handle it. He's not strawmanning, he's asking a genuine question to make sure his logic is solid. This is what mainstream media (TV & short form journalism) just cannot do for the life of it because it's the wrong medium to do it.
slayerOf DangerNoodle He always goes for the balls of anyone whose not on the left. Lefties can come on and spout bullshit for three hours and he says nothing. But God forbid Owen Benjamin or Steven Crowder ever disagree with him or Joe's going to deliver a spinning kick to their cock and balls.
This is true, tbh. Except that I think Crowder's arguments are more robust than Benjamin's insofar as he's done more research and he's better at forming an argument. I also did a lot of research into this polygamy thing after everyone kept pointing to Ryan's "sex at dawn". It's such a terrible book and is the incarnation of all this sexual libertine philiosophy, all bad science. Rogan lets Ryan off scot-free when he's interviewing him.
slayerOf DangerNoodle I think Owens actually better at forming arguements and but whose done more research is anyone's guess. Owen just gets kind of intense sometimes and that scares people off and makes them think he's paranoid. He basically says all the same stuff as SC and JP he's just way more angry about it lol.
Yea I felt like that for a while as well. Joe let's the lefties go off the rails but anyone that may be considered right he puts up a wall. Would be fine if he did it to both sides, or if he even knew anything about the topic he was criticizing. Like how Joe will talk about economic aspects and criticise a side on it but then even says he knows jack shit about it. But he gets dogmatic for something he knows nothing about.
Well he says that nazism is an instantiation of lefist policy, which is kind of right but also kind of not right because the ends are different. No equality of outcome not to mention a soceity that was functional enough to build the autobahn, the USSR and communist soceities achieved no such thing and if they did then it was at the lowest quality possible. I'll say this and I think you might push back, I think Benjamin belongs to the group of people who get red pilled a little too hard. (Though not as badly as those who went all the way to the alt-right.) Candace Owens belongs to this group of people as well, she was arguing that climate change was a conspiracy. While how bad global warming will be is down to some debate, you can read about it in "The Signal and The Noise" in one of the final chapters, she's being way too sceptical as a result of having to change her whole worldview. I think it's clear without a doubt that Crowder has put way more thought into this, Benjamin is a comedian and that's about it. Which is okay, the major point is calling out the regressive left, but he's still just a dude.
I went for a walk with this podcast and it took exactly 3hr 20min from door to door through streets and parks. What a Saturday to remember! Very enjoyable
I like Jordan's ideas, but I definitely would not want him as my dad. He is uncompromising and talks in absolutist terms. He is very assured that he has it all figured out correctly, and there seems to be little room for other ideas. This is great if you are a lecturer, but it's no fun to be judged your entire life by your father, it'll just make you resentful and not want to be near him, or worse yet rebellious and physically combative.
Not only starving for but there’s more than a basic deeper need to hear him. I just discovered him - just started listening to Joe and although I’m that ‘classic’ right winger, these 2 men have impressed upon me a strong desire to listen/learn more from them both. I’d much rather listen to meaningful conversation than anything else. Hard to believe this is 3 years old….
I completely agree with Joe. Jordan is completely misrepresented by the left. I am a moderate liberal and don't find any of his views offensive. He is just spreading knowledge that has been lost on the last two generations. He is changing this world for the better and giving people their lives back. I climbed out of a deep dark hole of post partum depression following his lectures and ideas. I am so thankful for his knowledge! Thank you Jordan for continuing on your mission to help others with your knowledge despite people trying to defame and delegitamize you ❤️💪
+Knuckles Da Echidna Not that they are "secretly Christian" as if they are just pretending to be atheist. He means subconsciously, athiests still base their moral framework on a foundation that was established by western Christian theology and the teachings of Christ. You make it sound as if he is suggesting that atheists are all closeted Christians which is not the case. They just tend to have a very simplistic and juvenile understanding of Christian ideas and their cultural significance, as though it only goes as deep as their grandmothers conception of some bearded man in the sky.
Brianna Larson - to believe that Christian theology is the underpinning of everyone's morality is to believe a moral man didn't exist before Christianity. Explain Aristotle. Explain the moral Chinese atheist. Also, much of Christian belief is itself derived from earlier religious mythology, so where exactly does the heredity of the atheist moral system begin?
There's not much to misinterpret, and when he gets called out on for his more incendiary views (that women should basically be forced to have sex with incel men) he just claims he's being misinterpreted. It's a common defense for pop intellectuals, claim you are being misinterpreted and that your musings are just so intellectual that nobody but your super-smart fans can understand it. I'ts a way of both sidestepping the opposing points and flattering your fans and keeping them on your side, Sam Harris does this too. I'm glad you are in a better place in your life, but I don't think people on the left are misinterpreting Peterson. He gives common sense lifestyle advice (clean your room) and intersperses his own right-wing ideology and talking points (maintaining hetero-sexual norms is imperative for society). You don't need to support patriarchal hierarchy to be able to better yourself. extra reading - www.currentaffairs.org/2018/03/the-intellectual-we-deserve
Cody Davies - While you make some valid points with his "common sense lifestyle advice" and he does have some right leaning ideology that does come out in some of his views/actions I think you are COMPLETELY wrong about your first sentence. If you actually read the articles or heard the discussions you would see that Jordan was not in favor of..."that women should basically be forced to have sex with incel men." If it wasn't for that statement I would of held you statement in higher regard. If you actually think that Jordan proposes "that women should basically be forced to have sex with incel men" please find me the article/interview where Jordan said that with ALL RELATIVE CONTEXT. Not your selected media site version. If I said to to my wife "I want to beat my wife in a game of tag" and the only thing you quote from it is "I want to beat my wife" then you are MISINTERPRETING what I said. I have read part of the "extra reading" you decided to post and there are several spots in there where again, the author decided to "edit" and misrepresent what Jordan is saying. I will continue to try to read the biased "extra reading" to hopefully find some actual valid arguments but so far it just seems like this author is complaining that everyone who likes Jordan Peterson has "lost it's damn mind" and that he is a fraud.
Of the 10 most viewed JRE videos, 4 of them are with Jordan Peterson with a total of 14.4 million views. Not bad for someone who used to teach classes of probably around 100 people max!
same my friend. between him and Ekhart Tolle I have been doing the same. The best part of what he is saying, is you know you are not alone in it. He is telling you what you already know, but just needed to hear someone articulate. I hope you are doing well, keep carrying that weight one step at a time. you've got this.
Jordan Peterson is a very compassionate person who wants people to succeed as best they can. Yes, he may not be all cuddly but uses his intellect and speech. More people need to listen to this man.
Jordan Peterson is a pseudo psychologist who uses his theocratic beliefs to dismiss any criticism or disagreement as "marxist" or "leftist." There are millions of people out there who actually know what they preach, you should look for them, it will be enlightening.
41:50, this life advice from JP killed it. How to teach your kid the MEANING behind why it's not whether you win or lose but how you play the game. Amazing.
Im studying physical eduaction and i work with kids playing games all the time and this type of stuff is so hard to teach. Im going to have to listen to this podcast so many times so till i can nail my own understanding
The thing is, coming from a coach, (hard to listen to 2 non coaches talk about pedagogy) is that if you scale and structure the teaching correctly, you dont have to try to push a meaning onto anything, as the structure of the class holds it within it. the conflict comes when you scale and progress the class unnaturally for their abilities and stress means you try to teach meaning directly, and in the face of skill acquisition and a score keeping game like soccer, you end up bombarding kids with 3 levels of nuance that causes even more confusion and stress. Like the 'medium is the message', the structure and scale of the class carries the pedagogical meaning within it as to not be overtly obvious to the kid, like in school, when you re in 4th grade, you do not realize that you re preparing for precal but the curriculum is set up, to scale, for that process to happen subconsciously. You do not try to teach a 4th grader that in 8 years you are going to need to know how to do huge equations so you can get into college, cos all they ll ask is 'whats college?' and you ve confused and stressed the shit out of them when you re trying to teach them simple math.
One thing I respect about Jordan is that he still is very willing to learn from anyone, and desires it. I also like that he is constantly pondering and attempting to decipher problems in real time. He is not ashamed of not knowing. Excellent example.
Analbarf I'm aware of Kyle, he makes good points often. I'm also not a Jordan fanboy. I can see some of the holes in his political ideology. He still says a lot of valuable wisdom that should not be thrown away. I think there's serious danger in only seeing one side of things.
unless you're female in which case you pretty much don't exist / should rightfully be chattel for incels, because equality of outcome is only good when it comes to making sure incels get the chance to reproduce
More interesting than your teacher teaching in mosque. He is a Christian, and that's haram for muslims. Your religions like segregation and that's for y'all
@@PharmacySpiritshe's not, he's maybe too serious but what can he do? You can't not be serious when you have the role that he has, otherwise his message would not be received
Jordan’s breakdown of Joe’s strengths was so: 1. True 2. Extremely well thought-out 3. Well-articulated 4. Weirdly heartwarming There’s something in here that is indicative of how to give a good compliment. I think Jordan acts out what he describes in his lectures about the one who ascends to the top has eyes all around his head (pays attention) and speaks magic words (uses well-articulated and effective speech). He really paid attention to Joe, broke down why he’s successful, and then effortlessly stated it back to him in a really genuine way. Think if we all did this with those in our lives.
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I talk about Peterson with people all the time. I was pretty down when I discovered him, it's only been about 2 months but I've made a lot of progress with my mindset and I'm going back to school in the spring God willing. I've started being more honest with others, but mainly with myself. Not only did he make me want to better myself, but he took the stress out of person setbacks because I no longer have to be my own hostage.
I find it hard to describe why i like him and what his doing...how do u speak about him? I strugle sometimes to undestand him, i dont know how to talk like him
Hey there, Mr. Peterson... I am so glad that you mentioned your daughter's diet. I too break out with rash when eating strawberries, oranges, and pineapple. Last night I popped a vitamin C tablet and all night I was experience serious leg cramping. Thinking back, the same cramping occurred when drinking orange juice and eating strawberry preserves. I'm putting two and two together... Vitamin C is toxic for my health. I never would have thought of it if you hadn't discussed your daughter. I can't thank you enough!
he makes sense but the world is so crazy with all these radical left and feminists claiming “all women are oppressed and and there is systemic oppression everywhere” that comparing to them he really makes a lot of sense ) plus I like how he is sharing his clinical experience
I appreciate that Joe asks questions for Jordan to explain himself more, because Joe understands that Jordan means well, but his blunt and straightforward way of speaking may come across negatively to some viewers, so he asks the right questions for Jordan to explain himself in a way that we understand the true meaning
I really appreciate Joe asking questions, and having a genuine interest in the answers, and more importantly, the serious need for the discussions. Honestly I love this podcast in general. It's fascinating seeing the change between Joe sharing a few beers and cigars with some guests, whilst often just talking shit, or exchanging hunting stories or stories with stand up and/or MMA friends, however he can also click into serious mode, and be a Brilliant interviewer, with a keen insight into the world around him/us. He shows that he has a decent head on his shoulders. He may not quite have the intellect of people like Dr. Peterson, Elon Musk or Bret and Eric Weinstein, etc etc .... however he can definitely hold his own in their discussions. He clearly shows he has a genuine interest and care factor to better understand the topics he discusses. He is clearly passionate about his show, and the guests and topics that happen as a result.
@@benz0317 I really respect this admittance man. I suspect youre an honest person with a lot of integrity. Lots of folks wouldn't change their view in this way. Kudos
Joe is a great interviewer but I believe he sold out. He used to challenge everything but now he goes along with everything. He's now Joe mainstream who uses people's fake gender pronouns and caves to all sorts of political correctness.
Yup, he let the guy get away with dropping bombs pushing his false narrative of "equality of outcome" when the reality is the equality being fought for is equality of opportunity. People given the opportunity to succeed, without being stopped due to race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, whatever. He's subtly making it seem like the other side wants the result to be pre-determined. In other words, he's completely misrepresenting the argument... shocking.
Even though Joe doesn't say much during his interviews with Jordan Peterson, the sheer amount of respect he holds for JP is so palpable and so genuine, that even though Joe isn't "participating", he is. As an avid listener of Joe's podcasts, I just love when him and Jordan get together because Joe is the most perfect and engaged listener - he knows exactly the right moments to interject, to share relevant anecdotes and to ask questions. He not only allows Jordan to think out loud, but his insightful commentary without ever really interrupting really encourages JP to be his true self. Jordan, IMO, is always at his best during his conversations with Joe, and that says so much more about Joe than I think he gets credited for. Such an engaging podcast! You learn how to think from Jordan, and how to behave from Joe. Love them both.
I love to see Jordan comfortable, relaxed, and happy. And excited. This man deserves goodness, it is so sad people want to break this. That’s their problem not his. Love you Jordan keep well.
He's made it through the storm and can keep on going, so I think he's going to be fine. Just a shame he has some non-nonsensical views sprinkled across his largely reasonable worldview and value set.
Right On Craig! Logic, Truth and common Sense are all under attack. Follow the narrative regardless of truth. We are in trouble here in America. Take care my friend 🙂
This is SUCH helpful advice. I was diagnosed with an autoimmune disease and I gained 50lbs. Obviously I wanted to loose all of that right off the bat and kept struggling. But now I’ve set my goal at 5lbs at a time. And I’ve lost 20 so far when I set the bar lower! I also want to own my own salon but I knew I couldn’t do that right away. So I went out independently and rented a booth. Now I have a clientele. Now I’m looking into entrepreneurial corses. And slowly building my credit score. Baby steps. 🙌🏻🙌🏻
small obtainable goals, n you eventually get there. Way too many of us set ourselves up for failure far too often, we're then also our best critic in the process. Leaving us stuck, listening to the corrupted voice in your head. said voice got much better after leaving social media in 2014 though. our brains simply aren't built for the constant consumption of division.
I'm up to 45 minutes and so far, this has been Peterson's most concise explanation of hierarchy in years. Free markets, games, the left-right spectrum, temperament, motivation.
I think it's integration. I remember at first watching his clips and finding the content to be a bit all over the place... But it's all coming together quite nicely. It's clear to me that he believes such hierarchies to have aided females in the sexual selection process. Now, I'm just waiting until he admits that archetypes may in large-part be the result of sexual selection. That women will continue to select the heroes that rise to the top of society.
Jordan is always learning and refining his ideas every time he grapples with these concepts. It's very much a different mindset from the intellectual debates years ago which were little more than "I *know* god doesn't exist" vs "I *know* god exists", and it's a breath of fresh air for anyone who not only wants to grapple with an idea, but to see it grow.
Imagine if you improved your vocab at a rate of 1% increase per day and you even slacked for 4 times a week, God knows just how much better you'll become over the course of 1 year
Was lucky enough to see this JRE, & the one with Jordan & Bret Weinstein, the first time around and it was truly a privilege to finally hear so many of my own uncondensed thoughts and feelings about the world articulated by such a wonderful speaker. We each of us lost our direction, our hope, and self-belief.....but at least partly, had it returned to us by Jordan being direct & honest, and not dumbing it down! A great few hours to relive! Enjoy!
JP has done something that no educational system has done. He made people motivated enough to try and work on themselves. Yeah, he is the father of all rational men.
@@RippleDrop. Exactly! I bow in the face of women that understand Jordan Peterson! They are not only smart but they are not selfish... and they are responsible and mature...
@@mariangeorge4984 Wow... Is the bar that low for women?.. 😬 I don't agree with everything Peterson claims. For instance promoting capitalism and that's the system which is driving the planet and humanity off the edge atm. I'd like to hear him address that. Hint to anyone if there is a link to a talk how he thinks this system should be regulated. A short personal experince. I am from Finland, Scandinavia. When started humanistic studies college at the age of 25, I had a talk with my teachers - two women. I told one of them on the one-to-one talk that I actually do not really see the point in getting this education, because honestly speaking, all I ever wanted was to have a child. I do not have ambition or the need to prove myself to anyone. I just want to be a part of raising a human being well. "I'd love to be a stay-at-home mother", I said. The outrage that arose... They both took me eye to eye. "A woman MUST have a job, career. You must want more to yourself. It is no good to be dependent on a man." I was stunned by the stone-wall. I told them, I think I am different and one is not supposed to say this in these times. But that is what I want. If I am honest to what is true to me. They could not accept this. They were determined to change my mind before I exit the office. I got kind of scared and realized ok, well I am not going to talk about THIS anymore... Gabor Mate, one of my favorite academics has found as well as Richard D. Wolff, an economist, that women in getting into the work force has been a factor to deteriorate the family structures, increase the expenses and have children being raised with less care and energy, obiviusly. YET I AM NO WAY SAYING WOWEM SHOULD NOT WORK BUT BE STAY-AT-HOME-MOTHERS. It's complex. Most importantly the deep psychological damage of day cares, abandonment trauma and the natural need for kids to associate with their own tribe members, not some people to whom you are an object of profession. It is unnatural and you see this in the mental health issues of adults in the west. All this goes under the great name of progress. I was raised by a CEO academic mother. Her career but mostly her personality disorder and need to be like a man destroyed our whole family. Dad was subserviant which destroyed in return his self-esteem. The first official stay at home dad in the region. Great! Or not..? I see many aspects in this, my family dysfunction is not a simple formula. Yet, children get trampled. Take the equal education here: my brother with ADHD and well above average IQ. No one rises above in the Finnish education system. ALL SHOULD BE THE SAME. So this boy was forced to be inadequitly mentally stimulated because all get the same treatment. He ended up in crime and addiction. To be challenged at least somehow. Smart people suffer from lack of mental stimulation. Result is suffering (family abuse by the stressed, in my opinion crazy but smart mother, obiviusly plays a role here too). I am saying treating all as similar creates pain and is short-sighted. Like forcing a panda to eat worms instead of bamboo. Their nature is against that. Cannot do that without dysfunction. I LOVE to learn, be mentally challenged and I am also a woman. And I want to be a stay-at-home mother and not be demeaned cause of that. It actually makes sense if the community around is healthy. This level-headed, unisex approach is ridiculous, even harmful. Question, question.
What I love most about Jordan Peterson is that everything he says always spirals into the ultimate conclusion that we can all become better than we are, one step at a time
hurkamur1 he's a psychologist, he's been one for longer than most of the people watching this have been alive. No shit he's trying to help people. Takes a special person to twist that into a negative. Instead of spending an hour a week with a handful of patients, he's been given the opportunity to reach millions and he's taking advantage of it.
All depends on your interests and what helps you take in information my friend. That’s why so many people don’t like school, it doesn’t appeal to everyone’s preference of learning.
@@aydenritzrow5366 Right,?! people youst to tell me that math was correct but I know numbers arent real. its just the man trying to get me down and make me believe the earth is round! Thats why I dropped school. now Im following my preference of learning by watching youtube and sniffing paint....
Bullpup Baggins I like listening to JP with the idea in mind that everything he talks about applies to himself. That's where I feel he comes up with everything, what makes a good life, where is the meaning, how can we improve as people.
He's not really a man who hides his emotions, he cries a lot in his videos, I think part of his thinking process. That it's just better to let the tears come and be done with it as opposed to what I did for 15 years and just let it bubble up. He's been an interesting figure to watch cause unlike other self help/philosophical figures people seem to connect with him not calling everyone in his audience special and that they have a long way to go even before they should feel like decent people.
I deleted my social media, and stopped watching the mainstream news once I got accustomed to longform podcasts and debates. It's so refreshing and educational. I'll be honest, in the past I would have rather thrown my TV out the window than watch 3 hours of their "news". This is where progress is made, and people can actually learn. Well done.
@UncleJemima420 For sure. Whats crazy to me, is that after deleting my social media, I would still reflexively open my phone and look for Facebook at dozens of moments throughout the day. (maybe more) Almost like any time there wasn't enough stimulus in my immediate environment, I would just go there by default and tune out the world. After a few weeks, I quit doing that and I noticed that I feel so much more aware of my surroundings. It sounds super stupid maybe...but like, I travel a lot for work and I notice people/animals/things...what they're doing around me. I feel like giving it up has not only reduced my stress, but lifted a burden off my mind. I don't need to come up with any snappy one liners. I don't need a "current/trendy" Facebook profile pictures. It's been super good =)
I never have used fb/twitter other than once to check an exotic pet shop page (fb) . Couldn't see the point & why everyone was obsessed with it. People used to look amazed when I said I wouldn't do it. I'm so glad I didn't as toxicity can be addictive. (I do put the odd stupid comment on RUclips so not perfect)
Yeah he does give white men a kinda safe place in his podcast , dont mind me i'm a big fan of his 12 ways to better your life thingy , but u gotta question the paradoxical nature that white men victimising the left in going to safe places basically do the same thing
@UncleJemima420 Again i agree with everything u said , i like his books and his thoughts about life and how to make it better ,what i dislike is his argument about IQ and race , it tries to promote white supremacy when a cultural thing would be the right argument eg. Asian americans(Chinese & indians) are most sucessful & rich per person in usa but u would think looking at the state of India & china that wouldnt be the case . he boderline calls black american dumb & unsuccesgul by genes which is absolutely stupid , the argument for african americans being unsuccesful can be attrbuted to cultural phenomenon of single mother raising kids no father around , having a drug problem in black culture & hating authority
That speech about how life isn't a game, and even a game isn't a game... I wish someone told me that in my troubled highschool years. Just wow. I just feel extremely lucky I heard it now rather than later. One of the very few "educators" I've come across. I'm definitely looking for his books tomorrow. Thanks Joe, for having this podcast.
The paradox of life is that life is a totally pointless game, and yet it must be played with dead seriousness. You must play the game as if your entire life depends on it, but you must also be conscious that the outcome doesn't matter at all.
Chung Junwoo I have 12 rules for life it's amazing I wish this book was available when i was 20. I'm 28 now but still very interesting and useful insight. I recommend the audiobook. I listen about 2+ hours a day between cleaning around the house and my daily work.commute.
@@thomasandersen5349 the main thing I noticed about both men is they never talk over anyone. They have what is called a "conversation", instead of just waiting for their turn to speak. They both try to address problems from a positive and compassionate POV and even offer solutions.
02:17:14 "It isn't necessarily a mistake to lay yourself open to attack because sometimes it reveals the motives of the attackers." This is another "mind blown" moment for me because I would never have thought of this in a million years.
nodisalsi maybe its just me... But when he says stuff likes this its almost like i knew exactly what he was talking about but i never thought about it yanno? Its like hes articulating something i already know but i didnt know i knew it. Or atleast wasnt aware i had been doing that
I was just telling a co-worker yesterday that, in my yearly work review, I always request feedback from the person on my team who I believe likes me the least. They will either give legit feedback that may be hard for me to hear, but will help me grow, or they will reveal themselves to our boss as being petty and vindictive. This goes to an even deeper level.
Joe Rogan, changing the meaning of the "interview" forever, absolutely the very best at what he does on the world wide web. And Peterson is just an enigma, this is like a book you just cant put down, only better.
Agreed. I would like to say Dr. Peterson's books are worth the read, and the audiobook is read by him so those who don't have the time to read can simply listen to him read his own book to you.
Me and the wife went to see him speak In London in early 2019. This guy is a prophet in a sense. He's broken it all down before it happened. We need his wisdom and power right now.
@@viddykhaos2896 Oh they certainly did. I guess that's why putting yourself in order is so important because you don't know when things will turn to shit. I'm just glad that their family has the fortitude to crawl out of hell.
This single podcast has taught me more about myself and the way I think and how I should improve myself then 14 years of education and 18 years of life...
I love that Dr. Peterson's incremental self-improvement is striving to be more effective at helping people. He is on fire and everyone benefits from his success.
Thank you for reminding me of my imperfection. Thank you for reminding me of my own role in my despair. I don't know how I let myself get this bad again, with my choices it was inevitable. I f'd around and found out again. I am cleaning up my room, making my bed, focusing on my diet, sleep and work more conscientiously. I pray it will be enough if I keep thinking critically and make the best of everything. Make the most of the present opportunities. Never allowing myself to feel above doing what needs doing. Thank you again Jordan, and thank you again Joe for another great podcast/interview. Really useful stuff.
I love that you can see Jordan's passion. When he looks away and takes a sec he's holding back tears at times cause he really feels the point he's trying to express. I really feel that.
@@mcseedat when you watch the whole thing you'll see the emotion come to his face. Like when he talking about his daughters illness and how some of what she was doing helped his own issues. Watch the whole thing and you'll see.
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Jordan Peterson is the only person who makes me want to clean my room EDIT: Woah, thanks for all the likes peeps! And for the record, I have been cleaning my room! Hahahaha. y'all are fantastic, much love
@Mr. Bum Tickler the prior commenter was making a reference to Dr Peterson's recent medical problems and severe health scares. Unfortunately they seem to have either misread, been misinformed, or misunderstood what was presented to them. The gist is that Dr Peterson had an extremely severe reaction to a Benzodiazipine he had been proscribed by his doctor. Benzos are also extremely addictive even in prescription doses, and the withdrawal can be life threatening. Dr Peterson tried tapering and micro tapering the meds but wasn't able to detox, so he and his family took him to a specialist clinic in Russia to detox and he was in a medically induced coma for quite awhile. He's now out of the coma and starting to recover, but has a long way to go. The real kicker that makes all this so much worse, is that all this happened and he was proscribed the meds to deal with severe depression as his wife has terminal cancer. AFAIK she's still alive, but IDK what her condition is like. TLDR my reading is that the prior poster was implying that Dr Peterson had abused prescription meds instead of becoming addicted even while following the Dr's instructions, and then having an extreme reaction to the same meds.
@dunk dunkerino well, you would have appreciated it more f u haven't been always able to see in the dark. and most of the time only be able to empathize if you've experienced being blind in the dark. but I really wouldn't know bcos i've always been able to see beyond the electro magnetic spectrum.
It is hard to believe how people misunderstand Dr. Peterson......Good GOD, he is about improving the human condition, taking away personal excuses......and increasing personal accountability.
Jordon Peterson is an absolute prodigy in the social media age. He scares the establishment because he has challenged us to think and grow from our mistakes.
@@tiii4017 its not though. He literally lied to say it was, thats why hes famous. No one was ever jailed over pronouns hes a lying pos who loves to speak on what he knows nothing about, like masculinity and religion.
Thumbs up if Jordan Peterson's improved your life
Slater Brown After hundreds of hours of him throughout 2016 I am mostly sorted
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to improve my life,
Slater Brown he didn't but he is the first person. I've heard articulate why I try to live my life the way I do. I guess my parents, and schooling imprinted these things without me really understanding why. My biggest wake up has been, that not everyone has ever been told these things.
oh cmon dude, thats just low. You know everyone is going to thumbs up this one... (me included)
volvo245 glad he was able to help, nub.
If you told me 15 years ago... that I'd be listening to the guy from fear factor, speaking to a Jungian Canadian superstar, during the presidency of Donald Trump...and having one of the most transformative internal debates within myself I would say, bullshit. Yet here we are. I made my bed this morning, threw out my cigarettes, whiskey and beer. Good luck everyone.
Haha well it does beat eating dung on national television for a chance for money. I guess that’s progression.
Its a pretty strange time. Im right there with you. Just think though, we have this guy for probably 30 more years. One of us could be the next Jordan Peterson too.
Best to you, buddy
Marcus I Stocks YES! good luck brother, please keep going!
What a waste of alcohol!
Just kidding, congratulations.
I think sometimes about Peterson's wife. I recently saw the documentary on Peterson on amazon prime and she says she has "lost her husband to the world". I would assume because of all the time it takes up for his (what I would call) crusade. She has stood by him and "been a great help". I think maybe both Jordan and Tammy Peterson have made considerable sacrifices for our benefit. For that I am grateful.
@@Neon_White Amen.
Nicholas McGreevy what’s this documentary out of interest?
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Thanks for letting me know about his documentary, didn’t know he had one. Gonna check it out.
Its the substance abuse
From 1:17:00 and that next 7 minutes really spoke to me - hating essays in school BECAUSE the subjects assigned were of zero interest. Decades passed, I became a journalist/essayist, refining and clarifying my thoughts "on paper", exploring subjects that I was passionate about, even if it was for an audience of one. I am so grateful to have had one or two moments in my life where someone has thanked me for being the catalyst for their own self-improvement. They did the hard work but they were thanking me... so humbling.
Jordan Peterson is the greatest dad I've ever had
Derek Garcia same cause my real dad is a narcissistic t**t lol
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Being... an @sshole... poking straight out of underwear... for no reason... is never fun.
Usually doesn't help... to be, like that, or.... "seem"...that way.
I'm honestly... no opposition to you... just stating, something... "I", learned... the hard way.😈
@@aresp2707 what?
Jordan Peterson is the dad this generation from single mothers need
this is why JP is unstoppable.
Well fucking put.
N Silva nothing can cure womens psychological problems. Nothing.
not really about "curing" its a product of biological insentives women are given at birth, which makes them more inclined to psychological issues as we see it today
but if you go far enough back theres a biological reasoning behind why women are more proned to depression and anxiety
and men more inclined for violent and anti social behaviour and yes, JP mentions this
just wanted to point it out anywho
She has clinical depression just like her father. So they changed diets to try and help. Thats how one finds an issue and tests it
It's always a pleasure listening to Dr. Peterson
MindSmash Hey man I watch your videos they’re awesome keep it up
I am not surprised to see you here!) thanks for good videos!)
MindSmash hey can you cover some side videos with people like Dr. Peterson you cover things very well so I would love to hear what you think of motivational people like him thank I love your videos to by the way my favorite is the one about DC and his child
Indeed, im cleaning my apartment at the same time:)
Is this a glitch In the matrix!...HeiLo
Listening to JP is becoming so much more interesting, intriguing and wholesome than church services on Sunday...If you listen well enough, its so much better!!....Such a blessing this man is to mankind....Pastors and reverends...take notes!!!.....
I've identified two problems. There are probably more.
1. The most significant problem is that >95% of churches are feminist. They redact whole sections of the Bible because they offend modern feminist sensibilities, their sensibilities. Feminism and Christianity are not merely mutually exclusive; they are in a battle to the death. When churches become feminist, the Word is corrupted, and they become heretical.
2. They self-censor to avoid losing their 501c3 tax exemption. Churches have submitted to government bribery and censorship.
I guess it depends who you listen to on Sundays. I've had that same feeling in the past too, but it went away once i started to listen to pastors who did expository preaching so well, that i was eager to hear the rest of the message. And of course, it also helps that later in life, i went from cultural Christian to someone who truly believes in Jesus Christ. It made the Sunday messages much more interesting, once i had love for who the message was about.
Hearing Jordan get choked up about people thanking him is awesome
Chokes me up hearing him talk about it
@@leetrengove chokes me up reading about you choking up hearing him talk about it
Tf2Antichief chokes me up hearing you're choked up about him getting choked up about dr Peterson getting choked up
I choked up as well.
@@thankshi2815 Choked my Chicken after reading about you getting choked up about him getting choked up about Peterson getting choked up
Who else here binge-watches Jordan Peterson, knowing that he will say the same thing, but still wanting to hear more?😅
@Engineer Asom Couldn't disagree 🙂
@@isaackvasager9957 how's that the case?
Starting my fourth show this week, just found out about the guy.. It's good shit !
Isaac Kvasager examples of snake oil please
@@kevinfairweather3661 just found out about him?) I envy you...good luck on the journey.
Thank you for reminding me that I am the greatest obstacle in my life and also the greatest solution
Yes. I forget that from time to time
Always the case and I constantly need reminders. These vids help.
Amen, may JP bless us all
The paradox of the human condition.
That might be true to you, but for the most people in the world that just isn't true. If you are poor and you family has been poor for generations, there is generally very very little that you can do for that - even in the 1st world coutries.
Thumbs up to both of you gentlemen.
Thanks for being strong and reflective men.
The Jordan Peterson experience
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Aye!
I make my bed every morning now. My eating style is changing. I expect more of myself, and others, and my conversations. My life is getting deeper and more interesting. Thank you, gentleman! From a middle age, white, American woman....
Same here.
Sorry That I destroyed your 69 likes 😢
As I read through most of the comments , it becomes clear that I'm part of something big and something truly of value . I want to be smarter and wiser , and also more aware of what's actually going on in the world . tHANKS
Good for you ! :)
this post just made my day. you go!
This is TRENDING ON RUclips. Let that sink in for a minute.
ExtractEngineer I do not see it?
Fake news
Largest podcast in the world, trending on RUclips. Wow
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In Canada it's #10 right now. In the US anything closely related to pro right wing won't get on trending
I’m not religious more of a Christopher Hitchens person but I like JP because he argues well in the philosophical way. Has great independent thinking, and shares this, encouraging others, knows his subject, doesn’t stand nonsense, has a deep caring, talks about subjects others wouldn’t. Always worth listening to.
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I miss Hitch as do many other people.
I miss Hitchens. He helped me see the oppression in a regressive Pakistani society.
yeah but i've never understood how religious people fall so short then. they fly planes into our buildings and kill 7000 people... that's obviously what the bible says NOT to do...i'm sure it also states the same in whatever "book" like the Koran and any other volume. so , given that, why are religious people murderous beyond belief? even if they don't KILL anyone, they still picket gay funerals, they still step over the homeless person dressed in their best sunday suit to hypocritically show off their piety. given all that, i'd have to agree with Hitchens, that religion poisons EVERYthing. when we can actually golden rule our lives, i'll swallow your religion whole. but since that IS NOT what i see happening when our preists diddle little boys, then avoid procecution and relocate to another field where they can repeat it. there should be no such thing as a rich church, yet the vatican has more gold than morals in any case. so we follow the "book" as interpeted any way we want to , you know, to break the rules stated clearly, but doesn't apply to them at all. they also shouldn't be tax free just because they were taught religion while their brains were still soft at age 5
As a theologically conservative, conventionally religious Christian, I must stress that Jordan Peterson's Christianity isn't Christianity in any historically meaningful sense. He is a Jungian who borrows Christian imagery and applies his own meanings to it. I enjoy Dr Peterson's material for the most part, but he's causing confusion about what Christianity is.
For those of us concerned with doctrinal orthodoxy, we have a lot of trouble with Dr. Peterson's use of Christian symbolism. Lest it be said that this is an issue of interpretation, Biblical scholars, linguists and the like can demonstrate where Dr. Peterson and Mr. Pageau err in their understanding of the text, so the issues are matters of fact rather than interpretation.
Introduced a 17 year-old student to Dr Peterson's podcasts as he was a self described nihilist and very deep thinker. He look so sad the day I met him. He said life was not worth living. I was concerned for him. There appeared to be a darkness in his face as we talked and he seemed without hope. I saw him again yesterday. Wow different young guy. Standing taller, happier, there was a light in his face... He couldn't wait to share he was still listening to Dr Peterson's talks and was really enjoying them. I am so grateful I had something to offer him that first day I met him that made a difference to him.
north star Congratulations for him and you! :)
This is what it's all about in the end, take or leave the political stuff, far more important is the life lessons he gives.
yeah. hooray for cults.
I see so many comments about how Peterson has changed people's lives and it gives me hope for the future.
ian giovanni Ya like the cult of mindless trolls you belong to who dedicate their lives to leaving negative comments on positive comments such as this one.
Although I’m not that bright myself, I’m loving this shift towards smart educated brains becoming mega stars instead these brain dead people on reality tv.
Me too man/woman.
Don’t sell yourself short. I bet your a lot smarter than you give yourself credit. And raw IQ is probably overrated, too.
Brad Boetig the best way to understand the value of iq, is that iq is your ability to learn. I have a friend who I have known for a while. He was the opposite of a smart guy in highschool but when he got to college he delved deep into expanding his knowledge. He is one of my smartest friends now. He is someone with a low IQ who is smarter than most people I know with higher IQ.
Did you mean our dear president?
while i agree, i do not want those brains to become tainted by fame.
I love no interruptions. Just being able to listen and not reach for the pass , so I could just listen and close my eyes and get comfortable. Thank you so much.
00:15 - Peterson's huge lectures/discussions
1:58 - Peterson and Sam Harris
4:20 - The emergence of complex long form discussions/content
9:34 - Why is there a tendency to label public intellectuals as alt right, leftists etc (why is everything politics?)
14:33 - Are universities responsible for establishing norms/opinions that you cannot deviate form publically?
18:04 - How and why hierarchies arise in the psyche and the world
19:50 - Why there needs to be an ongoing conversation between the left and the right
22:18 - Peterson on writing the preface to The Gulag Archipelago and dividing the world into opressor and oppressed
27:07 - Why is left always associated in support of the gay right, all races all genders etc. Does that make them more virtuous?
34:56 - Equality of outcome
36:35 - What do you do with disspossed people (people with low IQ)?
38:06 - Radical left is compassion gone mad ...... and envy
41:19 - Life is not a game. It is a series of games
48:06 - how to behave when you lose
53:07 - Rule 4: Compare yourself to who were yesterday not to who someone is today (from Peterson's 12 Rules book)
01:01:42 - Why do you have to aim low to improve?
01:10:32 - Why is Peterson's book an antidote to chaos if chaos has so much potential? and being critically honest with yourself
01:16:20 - Why bother thinking?
01:18:14 - Meaning is an instinct and responsibility makes your life more meaningful
01:25:23 - Why is Jordan Peterson misrepresented so much?
01:31:33 - Incels and enforced monogamy
01:40:48 - Women are hypergamous
01:48:38 - The gender pay gap
01:51:31 - Tempramental differences between men and women
01:56:44 - Left wing people a motivated by compassion but also envy
01:59:48 - Who's the 1% ?
02:01:44 - Why are people opposed to challenging cultural norms ?
02:05:39 - Peterson's Vice interview and sexual behaviour in the workplace
02:17:14 - It isn't necessarily a mistake to lay yourself open to attack.....(Cathy Newman interview)
02:21:32 - Should Peterson stop doing interviews that'll be edited to avoid controversies?
02:23:58 - Peterson didn't plan to go from University proffesor to household name
02:27:13 - Why Joe Rogan is successful on youtube according to JP and technological revolution of speech being as good as written word
02:37:36 - 12 Rules for not allowed to be a New York Times best seller due to arbitrary rules
02:38:58 - Death spiral for a big organisation, click bait, and news becoming ideological
02:44:42 - JPs carnivore diet
02:57:24 - Why is everyone fat and stupid?
03:00:29 - Arthiritis and fasting
03:06:23 - Are dietry studies reliable ?
03:10:59 - Biological variability and diet
03:13:43 - The intellectual dark web
YOU ARE A FUCKING GOD! THANK YOU!
This is a great recap. ❤️🩹
Thank your for the timestamps 💎
You're a real hero 🙂🙂🙂
Excellent!!!
Thank you for putting in the effort
Thank You So Much Jacky! 👍
Why have i never heard of this man?! I didnt want this podcast to end, now im going on the hunt for all things Jordan Peterson. Best JRE EVER!!!
Timothy Paulson read or listen to 12 rules for life
Where have you been bro?
I'm gonna save you some time. Find any old innane self-help crap, add missunderstood biology, politics, economy and pop-psych. Dust with bits of madness and romanticizing aristocracy and boom.
Hes been on this 3 timex you should watch the other two
Jakub Kotyza so what you're saying is...? You can do better?! 😂 wow ok sure thing
"The more responsibility you take the more meaning you have, And that's the antidote to the catastrophe of life"
-Jordan B Peterson
‘You absolute son of a bitch.’ -Jordan B. Peterson
@RBS Yes, because it's better to live like a dog and always be in pursuit of the "one up" version of your life and live in anxiety that you are not enough and nothing you do will be as good as the thing you can do that will be slightly better. I used to like Peterson, but lately it's become more obvious how abstract and obfuscated his views are and that is not the person id follow...
@RBS are you just trying to argue by guessing? That's a weird way to handle yourself lol, good try tho
@RBS No you're not, you completely misrepresented my issue with that quote and now you're pivoting to a different point as if that wasn't an error on your part, it's pointless to argue with you since you apparently don't see how what he's saying is dumb and what I'm saying has nothing to do with other people AT ALL let alone women....
Lol or you become stressed out of your mind. A lot of the things Peterson is great but keep in mind with all these guru types... there is no one answer. It’s the human condition. Take inspiration from it but realize no man has the answer.
Last night, I fell asleep watching bible stories, and woke up around 2:00 am to this video. It sounded so interesting , I was almost tempted to get up and watch it, but i made a mental note to watch later.
I did not know it would be so long, but once I started listening , I was immersed into the deep, thoughtful conversations. I normally listen to music on the ride to take the kids to school, but this was hooked up to the bluetooth . Even my 14 and 6 year old sons were engaged.
This is rare. Two absolutely brilliant minds. I enjoyed the way they literally complemented each other. There were so many gems dropped, I had to take notes📝
It's captivating because it is a revelation that is being suppressed, and those who are outside of politics can resonate with it. It's the God D*** truth!
Even Joe Rogan sits up straighter when talking to Jordan Peterson
Juan Matheu Underrated comment.
Joe Rogan reflects all the guests he has on, not just JP... just look at his attire change when he talks to MMA guys, hunters, scientists, and celebrities.... we all do it subconsciously
He always looks erect as a board
Whoa there, ur letting ur imagination get the better of u
LOL!!
This man has changed my life I was an addict I started listening to his seminars I got myself off pills started going to school for my CDL license It took two years I failed alot but I stuck with it I own my own home I'm about to get married and start a family I plan to teach my son or daughter the same values he taught me
That is awesome!
That's great, man! The world is a better place because of you!
Good work ✌️
How did u get off
Absolutely amazing
One of my favorite Peterson quotes is "we have to risk being offensive in pursuit of the truth".
Wow! How did I not see this until today? For being 4 years old it feels as though you are talking about what is currently happening! I am so thankful you stepped up!
A fun thing to do is watch all of them from oldest to newest and watch how accurately he predicts everything! You'll love it!
Just came across this yesterday 🙌🏾
Jordan Peterson is one of the most important people in the West right now.
Not necessarily. He is saying it's the best system we got but it's flawed and we need to figure out how to improve it. As he sees it right now the best way is to improve the individual.
@Ezra Goldfinkelsteinberg The fact that you had to resort to name calling and bending and exaggerating what Dr. Peterson said already proves that you don't have a valid point. Also since the things you said weren't even remotely true, I think that especially shows how lost you are in this argument.
@Ezra Goldfinkelsteinberg Again, you're just throwing insults and bending the view/opinion of the person you don't agree with. Sure, you can say I'm worshiping JP and call me a kid. But in the end, that doesn't do anything other than put me down and make me feel like my opinion is invalid, at least I assume that's what you're trying to do. Anyways, I would try to change your mind about JP but I doubt an arguement/debate online will make a difference. So sry you feel that way, but hey, we all have a right to our opiniond. So cya and have a good life.
When Jordan Peterson says, "I've been thinking a lot on that lately", the tectonic plates shift ever so slightly.
I think these never stop. Or plate is shifting away from Europe at about the rate a fingernail grows, nearly two metres in a human lifetime.
In 250million years, the earth may have only one continent. We are losing a lot of oceanfront, man!
Eric P seriously! Cause when he thinks on something he THINKS on it. Like for a couple of decades. I love when he says that.
Eric P or when JP says “it isn’t obvious that....”
Sometimes thoughts are traps that defeat meaning. Religion too. I've found seeing and examining the outside world makes one wise. Madness, shallowness and disdain, even "narcissism" come from thinking heavily. I contend, if one focuses on their logic, their idea of it, they can follow a mind-path of ideas and concepts into oblivion. This is the problem with many liberals and the far right.
@@nickolausafon5458 Typical idiot speaking here, eh
I watch these because I can't find people to talk to this way.
This is exactly why I listen to these so often!
Yeah RUclips is a great way to engage in some sort of discourse on topics that may be harder to with people in your own life.
Same here. I always wondered if i'm an ignorant because I don't care about our country's politics. With Jordan, i found out that i choose to not engage in political conversations because people here are so one-sided when they do talk about it.
Keep trying. You'll find at least one person eventually. One great thing about life is that once you meet a person, there's a million other people out there who have a lot of the same traits. There's people like Jordan and Joe all over the place hiding in plain sight, waiting for you to engage in an interesting conversation with them.
I agree. I literally tired to have a conversation like this with someone in my life and ended up in tears 😭
Why people hate Jordan Peterson? I mean for me he make sense.
I cleaned my room and it was incredibly empowering. It had been messy for a year. It was gross, to be honest. Now it's clean and I feel like it uncluttered my mind as well. Like the state of my room was an extension of the state of my mind.
Edit: I didn't clean it because JP told me to, it was just relevant to this podcast.
non-western people.... always trying to put leashes on women and children. Damn bro, I bet your room is a travesty and your family system is akin to new age slavery. Peace be upon you...Love, Jesus.
Clinton Leonard ive been considering doing thw same. but have been sitting here procrastinating and feeling like an asshole...
Good job! Its the first step to a better life! Don't let the trolls get you down. ;)
Part of that is cleaning a little every day. It's something I struggle with as well. It's so "easy" to just drop something on a chair or leave it on a desk rather than put it away. Which contributes to clutter. Part of this folds back to the personal responsibility and how we go about managing our responsibilities, first to ourselves and then moving out from there.
I'm not great at it either, hell I keep trying to get the motivation to start working out to improve myself, it's hard and I find myself pushing on all sorts of margins trying to be better. It's hard. It sucks. It's also rewarding.
Good for you, bucko
Since discovering Jordan Peterson online and watching his videos, I got myself out of dead end retail work and into IT. I enjoy my work, I'm studying a lot to get qualified to move up in my new career, passed my driving test and I'm on the road. Im 29. Should not have taken me this long.
Getting your act together and throwing some effort into the world is incredibly rewarding. Not just my professional life, but my personal life too. Just gotta tidy my room now...
That's great. But the guy is a liar and a fraud ruclips.net/video/5YsMOGFyadc/видео.html
I'm 40 and just starting life... It could be worse
Best of luck to you friend, I'm on the same path from retail into IT, just started 2 weeks ago and it's amazing how quickly it all unfolded once I made my mind up and cleaned my room so to speak.
Jordan has been a breeze of fresh air to my existence, much needed and longed for.
Keep going friend, best of luck!
And don't forget to pet your lobster
Well stated.
you need him on again its been 8 days
ha
Now it feelslike forever. Joe is pretty productive in his intellectual sparring, who knew. haha jk
Justanotherhuman was at work when I saw this, watched it right away then again 8 days later
N Silva well said and good luck in life
Jordan Peterson is a national treasure and must be protected at all costs! ❤
5M views for watching 2 people talking for 3+ hours, with both agreeing and dissenting views without shouting over each other, calling each other some kind of -ism/ist, and just having an actual normal discussion.
This is what our country needs. Not hatred, not berating or denigrating each other, just having a personal conversation between an American and a Canadian(ehhh)
C G Russell Brand had him on his podcast and their communication dynamic was cordial. Russell gets goofy and funny but it was a great conversation. They covered different topics.
To be fair, this is two people who essentially share their fundamental world view and respect each other. It's not going to get heated. It's essentially an echo chamber. I agree with your overall sentiment though. It's amazing that content of this depth becomes this popular, when we've seen the trend media takes with short, click-baity videos and articles.
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@@LCaaroe It may have to do with one of them being a traditional conservative and the other a traditional liberal. They are more central in their beliefs and can come together to discuss difficult subjects in a cordial manner. If you put even 1 polarized /extreme person in a conversation, typically nothing is learned because they are unwilling/insecure to accept any other views that contradict their own. We as people/countries/world need to meet in the middle to be able to actually HEAR/UNDERSTAND and enevidably LEARN about each other. Media/gov't are trying their hardest to polarize the world and they are winning at this point.. but I have faith we will see through this before it is too late.
And 4 months Later it is 6.5 Million....🤔🤔🤔
This dude makes me wanna lift weights as I think about a problem I'm working on, in order to get tired enough to need a nap...
...just so I get to make my bed again.
You made me smile man, I like you.
Ry P all incels posting today.
Tryhard
Go lift weights then! No one at the gym is going to judge you, it’s all in your head. I was a lank 6’2” 155. 14 months later I’m now 200lbs.
All you have to do is go. Just tell yourself no bullshitin, nose to the grindstone. No excuses anymore.
RyanJL337 Theo reference?
I’m torn. On the one hand I know we could use more of Dr. Peterson’s wisdom. On the other hand he shouldn’t have to burden all of this evil. Besides telling the truth, and following his advice, what can we do to help him and help each other? Take care of yourselves.
Bear his burden and spread the word and spread THE Word.
We better ourselves and continue passing the torch. We need to continue to educate ourselves and be open-minded. Ill admit, ive been listening to JP like hes the messiah lately and I need to diversify.
Sounds like a fantastic opportunity to take on more responsibility in our individual lives the best way we can! He's given the answer to just this question! I feel the same way I'm regards to him stepping back into the spotlight for sure.
Lift where you stand.
Remove the log from thine own eye ,you know the rest I assume.
Had the privilege to see Dr. Peterson last week in Detroit MI, it was worth every penny. I felt like a child on Christmas enjoying the lecture with my wife. God Bless you for all you do, Dr. Peterson spoke highly of Joe Rogan as well! Was a true blessing
He doesn't mince words, and people need that now more than ever.
My husband and I have tickets to see Dr. Peterson in Billings, MT in May and it's hard to wait!!! I'm glad to hear you enjoyed it...but then, it's Jordan, so how can the event be anything but amazing, right?!! 😁 He is a treasure!
@@micdrop-jh3pf it was a blessing to be there, enjoy. You both will have a great time, Definitely can’t wait til he comes again!
How can anyone dislike a guy who's clearly so emotionally interested in helping people
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Defamation and slander
Shows you we live in a sick world
I think he is a bit twisted (we all are, I guess), but well intentioned; doesn't make him or what he is saying an asset, but I think people mischaracterize him.
As every other human, he has his pros and cons, he is otherwise very polarizing. He has interesting ideas but he is really slow at recognizing failures or cognitive bias from his side (nothing wrong with that, everybody does it). I am kind of in the middle because he has some really interesting stuff to say but then he goes into religion (and other wacky stuff), when he obviously knows he has nothing on it, still he keeps pushing some themes which do not really resonate with everyone.
Have you guys *literally* not listened to the podcast? Of course he would have haters. And a damned world? This is a human world, accept it or don't.
More than 5 millions of views for two guys talking during more than 3 hours. This is how strong those statements are resonating with a whole generation of human beings. That's huge bro.
Yeah I've never heard a single person speak like Dr. Peterson does, he has a better comprehension on how people tick than anyone I've ever heard.
@@samgomez9942 This must be what it feels like to listen to an ancient greek philosopher
and 0 of the 5 million watched the video in its entirety. people take bits and pieces that reinforce pre existing beliefs. What cultivates a belief is a traumatic experience. meaning is hinged on a persons experiences, and the meanings they relate to those experiences. nobody will change their opinion by watching these podcasts.
@@JackJackKcajify I think you're speaking for yourself. Many people listen to the entire discussion. Maybe nothing changes for you because you never see anything through to the end. Hundreds of thousands of people also read books by the likes of Peterson.
@@JackJackKcajify speak for yourself. I didn't listen to it on one go but I definitely listened to it all
1:29:16 - Yeah, Joe really goes for JBP's balls here. Keeping the scepticism up but he does it because he knows JBP can handle it. He's not strawmanning, he's asking a genuine question to make sure his logic is solid. This is what mainstream media (TV & short form journalism) just cannot do for the life of it because it's the wrong medium to do it.
slayerOf DangerNoodle He always goes for the balls of anyone whose not on the left. Lefties can come on and spout bullshit for three hours and he says nothing. But God forbid Owen Benjamin or Steven Crowder ever disagree with him or Joe's going to deliver a spinning kick to their cock and balls.
This is true, tbh. Except that I think Crowder's arguments are more robust than Benjamin's insofar as he's done more research and he's better at forming an argument.
I also did a lot of research into this polygamy thing after everyone kept pointing to Ryan's "sex at dawn". It's such a terrible book and is the incarnation of all this sexual libertine philiosophy, all bad science. Rogan lets Ryan off scot-free when he's interviewing him.
slayerOf DangerNoodle I think Owens actually better at forming arguements and but whose done more research is anyone's guess. Owen just gets kind of intense sometimes and that scares people off and makes them think he's paranoid. He basically says all the same stuff as SC and JP he's just way more angry about it lol.
Yea I felt like that for a while as well. Joe let's the lefties go off the rails but anyone that may be considered right he puts up a wall. Would be fine if he did it to both sides, or if he even knew anything about the topic he was criticizing. Like how Joe will talk about economic aspects and criticise a side on it but then even says he knows jack shit about it. But he gets dogmatic for something he knows nothing about.
Well he says that nazism is an instantiation of lefist policy, which is kind of right but also kind of not right because the ends are different. No equality of outcome not to mention a soceity that was functional enough to build the autobahn, the USSR and communist soceities achieved no such thing and if they did then it was at the lowest quality possible.
I'll say this and I think you might push back, I think Benjamin belongs to the group of people who get red pilled a little too hard. (Though not as badly as those who went all the way to the alt-right.) Candace Owens belongs to this group of people as well, she was arguing that climate change was a conspiracy. While how bad global warming will be is down to some debate, you can read about it in "The Signal and The Noise" in one of the final chapters, she's being way too sceptical as a result of having to change her whole worldview.
I think it's clear without a doubt that Crowder has put way more thought into this, Benjamin is a comedian and that's about it. Which is okay, the major point is calling out the regressive left, but he's still just a dude.
Had this playing while I was asleep and woke up to it. JP is such a brilliant and inspiring guy. Already motivated for my day.
I went for a walk with this podcast and it took exactly 3hr 20min from door to door through streets and parks. What a Saturday to remember! Very enjoyable
cool story, yep
@@mouse_22 3 months ago, my 80 years old grandma started to walk 5 miles a day, we have no idea where she is at now.
@@Uriel-Septim. sounds like the start to a word problem in math.
@@thechurchofgravity well it is a joke, but I guess my English translation sucks :D
Nice sweet feeling of accomplishment. 😎
Jordan's" my spirit animal" Peterson, the dad most of us never had but wanted
So true. God how I wish I had been raised by someone like J.P..
Amen
I like Jordan's ideas, but I definitely would not want him as my dad. He is uncompromising and talks in absolutist terms. He is very assured that he has it all figured out correctly, and there seems to be little room for other ideas.
This is great if you are a lecturer, but it's no fun to be judged your entire life by your father, it'll just make you resentful and not want to be near him, or worse yet rebellious and physically combative.
He is a father figure
Jordan peterson is a beacon of light in a world that is starving for deep meaningful conversation
Not only starving for but there’s more than a basic deeper need to hear him. I just discovered him - just started listening to Joe and although I’m that ‘classic’ right winger, these 2 men have impressed upon me a strong desire to listen/learn more from them both. I’d much rather listen to meaningful conversation than anything else. Hard to believe this is 3 years old….
Lmao no it’s just you that needs someone to tell them to clean up their room
@@cameronpatterson130 that's a pure statement of ignorance.
@@zacharyhusk4649 also the correct syntax is “statement of pure ignorance”
@@cameronpatterson130 That's hysterical coming from a person with the IQ of 80
Wow.
Hard to realize that this was 4 Years ago! So well worth the time to listen!
I completely agree with Joe. Jordan is completely misrepresented by the left. I am a moderate liberal and don't find any of his views offensive. He is just spreading knowledge that has been lost on the last two generations. He is changing this world for the better and giving people their lives back. I climbed out of a deep dark hole of post partum depression following his lectures and ideas. I am so thankful for his knowledge! Thank you Jordan for continuing on your mission to help others with your knowledge despite people trying to defame and delegitamize you ❤️💪
Except that he claims atheists are secretly christian. His views on religion are fucked.
+Knuckles Da Echidna
Not that they are "secretly Christian" as if they are just pretending to be atheist. He means subconsciously, athiests still base their moral framework on a foundation that was established by western Christian theology and the teachings of Christ.
You make it sound as if he is suggesting that atheists are all closeted Christians which is not the case. They just tend to have a very simplistic and juvenile understanding of Christian ideas and their cultural significance, as though it only goes as deep as their grandmothers conception of some bearded man in the sky.
Brianna Larson - to believe that Christian theology is the underpinning of everyone's morality is to believe a moral man didn't exist before Christianity. Explain Aristotle. Explain the moral Chinese atheist. Also, much of Christian belief is itself derived from earlier religious mythology, so where exactly does the heredity of the atheist moral system begin?
There's not much to misinterpret, and when he gets called out on for his more incendiary views (that women should basically be forced to have sex with incel men) he just claims he's being misinterpreted. It's a common defense for pop intellectuals, claim you are being misinterpreted and that your musings are just so intellectual that nobody but your super-smart fans can understand it. I'ts a way of both sidestepping the opposing points and flattering your fans and keeping them on your side, Sam Harris does this too.
I'm glad you are in a better place in your life, but I don't think people on the left are misinterpreting Peterson. He gives common sense lifestyle advice (clean your room) and intersperses his own right-wing ideology and talking points (maintaining hetero-sexual norms is imperative for society). You don't need to support patriarchal hierarchy to be able to better yourself.
extra reading - www.currentaffairs.org/2018/03/the-intellectual-we-deserve
Cody Davies - While you make some valid points with his "common sense lifestyle advice" and he does have some right leaning ideology that does come out in some of his views/actions I think you are COMPLETELY wrong about your first sentence. If you actually read the articles or heard the discussions you would see that Jordan was not in favor of..."that women should basically be forced to have sex with incel men." If it wasn't for that statement I would of held you statement in higher regard. If you actually think that Jordan proposes "that women should basically be forced to have sex with incel men" please find me the article/interview where Jordan said that with ALL RELATIVE CONTEXT. Not your selected media site version. If I said to to my wife "I want to beat my wife in a game of tag" and the only thing you quote from it is "I want to beat my wife" then you are MISINTERPRETING what I said.
I have read part of the "extra reading" you decided to post and there are several spots in there where again, the author decided to "edit" and misrepresent what Jordan is saying. I will continue to try to read the biased "extra reading" to hopefully find some actual valid arguments but so far it just seems like this author is complaining that everyone who likes Jordan Peterson has "lost it's damn mind" and that he is a fraud.
Of the 10 most viewed JRE videos, 4 of them are with Jordan Peterson with a total of 14.4 million views. Not bad for someone who used to teach classes of probably around 100 people max!
And that doesn't include the people who stream it on other websites etc. It's a beautiful phenomenon.
this man is saving my life, no he's helping me save my own life with my own will
same my friend. between him and Ekhart Tolle I have been doing the same. The best part of what he is saying, is you know you are not alone in it. He is telling you what you already know, but just needed to hear someone articulate. I hope you are doing well, keep carrying that weight one step at a time. you've got this.
This man is not saying anything of substance at all
@@brucebanner1638 shouldn't your avatar be green?
Jordan Peterson is more than just a good source of knowledge, I think he's a very good source of wisdom.
Pedro Soares elaborate
Jordan Peterson is a very compassionate person who wants people to succeed as best they can. Yes, he may not be all cuddly but uses his intellect and speech. More people need to listen to this man.
*liberal rage*
Jordan Peterson is a pseudo psychologist who uses his theocratic beliefs to dismiss any criticism or disagreement as "marxist" or "leftist." There are millions of people out there who actually know what they preach, you should look for them, it will be enlightening.
I'm so happy jordan is feeling better ,health wise,and has been busy. I can listen to him for days
41:50, this life advice from JP killed it. How to teach your kid the MEANING behind why it's not whether you win or lose but how you play the game. Amazing.
In his other lectures, he says its not about winning, its about being invited to play, which opens you up to win the greatest number of games
"You absolute son of a bitch." xD
Im studying physical eduaction and i work with kids playing games all the time and this type of stuff is so hard to teach. Im going to have to listen to this podcast so many times so till i can nail my own understanding
JRE Clips please clip this segment out as a separate video, it is so powerful for parents, especially new ones like me.
The thing is, coming from a coach, (hard to listen to 2 non coaches talk about pedagogy) is that if you scale and structure the teaching correctly, you dont have to try to push a meaning onto anything, as the structure of the class holds it within it. the conflict comes when you scale and progress the class unnaturally for their abilities and stress means you try to teach meaning directly, and in the face of skill acquisition and a score keeping game like soccer, you end up bombarding kids with 3 levels of nuance that causes even more confusion and stress. Like the 'medium is the message', the structure and scale of the class carries the pedagogical meaning within it as to not be overtly obvious to the kid, like in school, when you re in 4th grade, you do not realize that you re preparing for precal but the curriculum is set up, to scale, for that process to happen subconsciously. You do not try to teach a 4th grader that in 8 years you are going to need to know how to do huge equations so you can get into college, cos all they ll ask is 'whats college?' and you ve confused and stressed the shit out of them when you re trying to teach them simple math.
One thing I respect about Jordan is that he still is very willing to learn from anyone, and desires it. I also like that he is constantly pondering and attempting to decipher problems in real time. He is not ashamed of not knowing. Excellent example.
Bob Black Kyle kulinski destroys Jordan Peterson ruclips.net/video/uLGrj_gTuJ8/видео.html
Analbarf I'm aware of Kyle, he makes good points often. I'm also not a Jordan fanboy. I can see some of the holes in his political ideology. He still says a lot of valuable wisdom that should not be thrown away. I think there's serious danger in only seeing one side of things.
Bob Black yea I do agree with Jordan some times on somethings but he is wrong on several issues
unless you're female in which case you pretty much don't exist / should rightfully be chattel for incels, because equality of outcome is only good when it comes to making sure incels get the chance to reproduce
Yeah but I've noticed he has a tendency to not admit to being wrong. Joe stumped him on his hypocrisy on the insel topic...
I don't think I've ever listened to a 3 hour podcast in one sitting. I can listen to another 3 hours of this. Absolutely amazing conversation
More interesting than your teacher teaching in mosque. He is a Christian, and that's haram for muslims. Your religions like segregation and that's for y'all
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@@PharmacySpiritshe's not, he's maybe too serious but what can he do? You can't not be serious when you have the role that he has, otherwise his message would not be received
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Jordan’s breakdown of Joe’s strengths was so:
1. True
2. Extremely well thought-out
3. Well-articulated
4. Weirdly heartwarming
There’s something in here that is indicative of how to give a good compliment. I think Jordan acts out what he describes in his lectures about the one who ascends to the top has eyes all around his head (pays attention) and speaks magic words (uses well-articulated and effective speech).
He really paid attention to Joe, broke down why he’s successful, and then effortlessly stated it back to him in a really genuine way. Think if we all did this with those in our lives.
I agree. it starts at 2:27:14 for anyone who didn't catch it.
That’s a beautiful sentiment. And well stated.
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I talk about Peterson with people all the time. I was pretty down when I discovered him, it's only been about 2 months but I've made a lot of progress with my mindset and I'm going back to school in the spring God willing. I've started being more honest with others, but mainly with myself. Not only did he make me want to better myself, but he took the stress out of person setbacks because I no longer have to be my own hostage.
justin robbins one of many
justin robbins we are so happy he has helped you find your way. He has enhanced the lives of so many of us.
Dermot Killian good man
Dermot Killian funny how some people think he is evil 😂😂
I find it hard to describe why i like him and what his doing...how do u speak about him? I strugle sometimes to undestand him, i dont know how to talk like him
1:07:25 this man really cares about his message. You can see how much he was choking up, this is a man who wants to help people.
Hey there, Mr. Peterson... I am so glad that you mentioned your daughter's diet. I too break out with rash when eating strawberries, oranges, and pineapple. Last night I popped a vitamin C tablet and all night I was experience serious leg cramping. Thinking back, the same cramping occurred when drinking orange juice and eating strawberry preserves. I'm putting two and two together... Vitamin C is toxic for my health. I never would have thought of it if you hadn't discussed your daughter. I can't thank you enough!
Have you tried eating lots of bananas or potassium rich foods?
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Just great.
Improve one tiny step at a time, every single day.
Change your trajectory...
this dude makes so much sense.
That comment with ur profile pic made me laugh
Makes me feel like the rest of us are chimps
he makes sense but the world is so crazy with all these radical left and feminists claiming “all women are oppressed and and there is systemic oppression everywhere” that comparing to them he really makes a lot of sense ) plus I like how he is sharing his clinical experience
He has one of the brightest brains in humanity.
@@TravisAndRuby same but he motivated me to be a better chimp than I was yesterday.
I appreciate that Joe asks questions for Jordan to explain himself more, because Joe understands that Jordan means well, but his blunt and straightforward way of speaking may come across negatively to some viewers, so he asks the right questions for Jordan to explain himself in a way that we understand the true meaning
Bang on Jessica. I originally was negatively biased against Jordan when I first saw him because of his demeanour. That was my mistake.
Felt this to my core
I really appreciate Joe asking questions, and having a genuine interest in the answers, and more importantly, the serious need for the discussions.
Honestly I love this podcast in general. It's fascinating seeing the change between Joe sharing a few beers and cigars with some guests, whilst often just talking shit, or exchanging hunting stories or stories with stand up and/or MMA friends, however he can also click into serious mode, and be a Brilliant interviewer, with a keen insight into the world around him/us.
He shows that he has a decent head on his shoulders. He may not quite have the intellect of people like Dr. Peterson, Elon Musk or Bret and Eric Weinstein, etc etc .... however he can definitely hold his own in their discussions. He clearly shows he has a genuine interest and care factor to better understand the topics he discusses. He is clearly passionate about his show, and the guests and topics that happen as a result.
@@benz0317 I really respect this admittance man. I suspect youre an honest person with a lot of integrity. Lots of folks wouldn't change their view in this way. Kudos
So in other words, Joe asks genuine questions?
I could listen to these two for hours....absolutely refreshing and grounding 🙏🏼
Wow! Imagine a host actually letting the guest finish their thought without interrupting! Thanks Joe!
deeaplw they are having a discussion not an interview
Joe is a great interviewer but I believe he sold out. He used to challenge everything but now he goes along with everything. He's now Joe mainstream who uses people's fake gender pronouns and caves to all sorts of political correctness.
Yup, he let the guy get away with dropping bombs pushing his false narrative of "equality of outcome" when the reality is the equality being fought for is equality of opportunity.
People given the opportunity to succeed, without being stopped due to race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, whatever. He's subtly making it seem like the other side wants the result to be pre-determined. In other words, he's completely misrepresenting the argument... shocking.
Yeah because no one wants quota, or blames any group for oppressing another group without any evidence!
Jordan is very interesting + very assertive, so that helps
Even though Joe doesn't say much during his interviews with Jordan Peterson, the sheer amount of respect he holds for JP is so palpable and so genuine, that even though Joe isn't "participating", he is. As an avid listener of Joe's podcasts, I just love when him and Jordan get together because Joe is the most perfect and engaged listener - he knows exactly the right moments to interject, to share relevant anecdotes and to ask questions. He not only allows Jordan to think out loud, but his insightful commentary without ever really interrupting really encourages JP to be his true self. Jordan, IMO, is always at his best during his conversations with Joe, and that says so much more about Joe than I think he gets credited for. Such an engaging podcast! You learn how to think from Jordan, and how to behave from Joe. Love them both.
Lauren Hansen
"Joe" is very morally ambiguous and can say anything.
is there a reason you're saying Joe in quotations?
Lauren Hansen
I'm quoting you bitch. 😚
wheres this animosity coming from?
Lauren Hansen You asked me why i quoted something.
I don't appreciate people who act like they think they're smart. 😁
I love to see Jordan comfortable, relaxed, and happy. And excited. This man deserves goodness, it is so sad people want to break this. That’s their problem not his. Love you Jordan keep well.
He's made it through the storm and can keep on going, so I think he's going to be fine. Just a shame he has some non-nonsensical views sprinkled across his largely reasonable worldview and value set.
W H non-nonsensical would be sensical 😂
Craig Adam Check Theo Von and JBP interview. JP was having a really good time there. :)
Craig Adam well said.
Right On Craig! Logic, Truth and common Sense are all under attack. Follow the narrative regardless of truth. We are in trouble here in America. Take care my friend 🙂
Always the sensible triunph, is the dialectics of progress, natural selection or whatever you call it. This two gentlemen are a delight to hear.
This is SUCH helpful advice. I was diagnosed with an autoimmune disease and I gained 50lbs. Obviously I wanted to loose all of that right off the bat and kept struggling. But now I’ve set my goal at 5lbs at a time. And I’ve lost 20 so far when I set the bar lower!
I also want to own my own salon but I knew I couldn’t do that right away. So I went out independently and rented a booth. Now I have a clientele. Now I’m looking into entrepreneurial corses. And slowly building my credit score. Baby steps. 🙌🏻🙌🏻
Congrats!!! That's awesome!
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God fucking dammit that's amazing, really. Fuck yeah.
small obtainable goals, n you eventually get there. Way too many of us set ourselves up for failure far too often, we're then also our best critic in the process. Leaving us stuck, listening to the corrupted voice in your head.
said voice got much better after leaving social media in 2014 though. our brains simply aren't built for the constant consumption of division.
Well done 🥃
You are a beautiful badass person!!!
I'm up to 45 minutes and so far, this has been Peterson's most concise explanation of hierarchy in years. Free markets, games, the left-right spectrum, temperament, motivation.
He has been honing his ideas on the book tour.
Yeah he's getting a bit simpler to understand. Maybe I'm just getting smarter at following his thought process
I think it's integration. I remember at first watching his clips and finding the content to be a bit all over the place... But it's all coming together quite nicely. It's clear to me that he believes such hierarchies to have aided females in the sexual selection process. Now, I'm just waiting until he admits that archetypes may in large-part be the result of sexual selection. That women will continue to select the heroes that rise to the top of society.
Marty Mcfly 88MPH i think because you are hearing some ideas again and they are starting to stick.
Jordan is always learning and refining his ideas every time he grapples with these concepts. It's very much a different mindset from the intellectual debates years ago which were little more than "I *know* god doesn't exist" vs "I *know* god exists", and it's a breath of fresh air for anyone who not only wants to grapple with an idea, but to see it grow.
I wish I had 30% of Peterson’s vocabulary.
This guy is sublime.
paulohyp I had the same thought
I'm sure you have. It's not his vocab volume, it's how insightfully and aptly he uses vocab he has.
Typhoon of Ideas his eloquence
Go clean you room and start
Imagine if you improved your vocab at a rate of 1% increase per day and you even slacked for 4 times a week, God knows just how much better you'll become over the course of 1 year
Was lucky enough to see this JRE, & the one with Jordan & Bret Weinstein, the first time around and it was truly a privilege to finally hear so many of my own uncondensed thoughts and feelings about the world articulated by such a wonderful speaker. We each of us lost our direction, our hope, and self-belief.....but at least partly, had it returned to us by Jordan being direct & honest, and not dumbing it down! A great few hours to relive! Enjoy!
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JP has done something that no educational system has done. He made people motivated enough to try and work on themselves. Yeah, he is the father of all rational men.
Or maybe the uncle..
And women! 🙋🏼♀️
@@RippleDrop. Exactly! I bow in the face of women that understand Jordan Peterson! They are not only smart but they are not selfish... and they are responsible and mature...
@@mariangeorge4984 Wow... Is the bar that low for women?.. 😬
I don't agree with everything Peterson claims. For instance promoting capitalism and that's the system which is driving the planet and humanity off the edge atm. I'd like to hear him address that. Hint to anyone if there is a link to a talk how he thinks this system should be regulated.
A short personal experince. I am from Finland, Scandinavia. When started humanistic studies college at the age of 25, I had a talk with my teachers - two women. I told one of them on the one-to-one talk that I actually do not really see the point in getting this education, because honestly speaking, all I ever wanted was to have a child. I do not have ambition or the need to prove myself to anyone. I just want to be a part of raising a human being well. "I'd love to be a stay-at-home mother", I said.
The outrage that arose... They both took me eye to eye. "A woman MUST have a job, career. You must want more to yourself. It is no good to be dependent on a man."
I was stunned by the stone-wall. I told them, I think I am different and one is not supposed to say this in these times. But that is what I want. If I am honest to what is true to me.
They could not accept this. They were determined to change my mind before I exit the office. I got kind of scared and realized ok, well I am not going to talk about THIS anymore...
Gabor Mate, one of my favorite academics has found as well as Richard D. Wolff, an economist, that women in getting into the work force has been a factor to deteriorate the family structures, increase the expenses and have children being raised with less care and energy, obiviusly. YET I AM NO WAY SAYING WOWEM SHOULD NOT WORK BUT BE STAY-AT-HOME-MOTHERS. It's complex.
Most importantly the deep psychological damage of day cares, abandonment trauma and the natural need for kids to associate with their own tribe members, not some people to whom you are an object of profession. It is unnatural and you see this in the mental health issues of adults in the west. All this goes under the great name of progress.
I was raised by a CEO academic mother. Her career but mostly her personality disorder and need to be like a man destroyed our whole family. Dad was subserviant which destroyed in return his self-esteem. The first official stay at home dad in the region. Great! Or not..? I see many aspects in this, my family dysfunction is not a simple formula. Yet, children get trampled.
Take the equal education here: my brother with ADHD and well above average IQ. No one rises above in the Finnish education system. ALL SHOULD BE THE SAME. So this boy was forced to be inadequitly mentally stimulated because all get the same treatment. He ended up in crime and addiction. To be challenged at least somehow. Smart people suffer from lack of mental stimulation. Result is suffering (family abuse by the stressed, in my opinion crazy but smart mother, obiviusly plays a role here too). I am saying treating all as similar creates pain and is short-sighted. Like forcing a panda to eat worms instead of bamboo. Their nature is against that. Cannot do that without dysfunction.
I LOVE to learn, be mentally challenged and I am also a woman. And I want to be a stay-at-home mother and not be demeaned cause of that. It actually makes sense if the community around is healthy. This level-headed, unisex approach is ridiculous, even harmful.
Question, question.
@@RippleDrop. it is that low sadly. I would kill just to have someone i can trust to not cheat on me
What I love most about Jordan Peterson is that everything he says always spirals into the ultimate conclusion that we can all become better than we are, one step at a time
Finalflash50 Tony Robbins wannabe
Tony Robbins wishes he was JP
because thats the key to everything
Dustin B Bwahaaaaaahaha, hardly. He's been empowering sheeple en masse way longer than your daddy. He's at the top of the self help hierarchy.
hurkamur1 he's a psychologist, he's been one for longer than most of the people watching this have been alive. No shit he's trying to help people. Takes a special person to twist that into a negative. Instead of spending an hour a week with a handful of patients, he's been given the opportunity to reach millions and he's taking advantage of it.
3 hour podcast with JP provides more valuable info than 3 weeks of most school
3 years...3 decades...
All depends on your interests and what helps you take in information my friend. That’s why so many people don’t like school, it doesn’t appeal to everyone’s preference of learning.
@@aydenritzrow5366 Right,?! people youst to tell me that math was correct but I know numbers arent real. its just the man trying to get me down and make me believe the earth is round! Thats why I dropped school. now Im following my preference of learning by watching youtube and sniffing paint....
That's the truth !
@@ebyo343 Extremist, maybe?
What an amazing thing to do in life. Thank you Dr Peterson 🙏
Such a sincere person--he gets emotional when talking about a son resolving his issues with his father.
Get out of his arse you turd miner
Yeah I was getting a bit annoyed by him between hour 1-2 but 2-3 was great. He has his fair share of issues but I like the guy.
Bullpup Baggins I like listening to JP with the idea in mind that everything he talks about applies to himself. That's where I feel he comes up with everything, what makes a good life, where is the meaning, how can we improve as people.
Bullpup Baggins its religion. Always is.
He's not really a man who hides his emotions, he cries a lot in his videos, I think part of his thinking process. That it's just better to let the tears come and be done with it as opposed to what I did for 15 years and just let it bubble up. He's been an interesting figure to watch cause unlike other self help/philosophical figures people seem to connect with him not calling everyone in his audience special and that they have a long way to go even before they should feel like decent people.
I deleted my social media, and stopped watching the mainstream news once I got accustomed to longform podcasts and debates. It's so refreshing and educational. I'll be honest, in the past I would have rather thrown my TV out the window than watch 3 hours of their "news". This is where progress is made, and people can actually learn. Well done.
The average person is being trained to regurgitate information, not to think...
@UncleJemima420 For sure. Whats crazy to me, is that after deleting my social media, I would still reflexively open my phone and look for Facebook at dozens of moments throughout the day. (maybe more) Almost like any time there wasn't enough stimulus in my immediate environment, I would just go there by default and tune out the world. After a few weeks, I quit doing that and I noticed that I feel so much more aware of my surroundings. It sounds super stupid maybe...but like, I travel a lot for work and I notice people/animals/things...what they're doing around me. I feel like giving it up has not only reduced my stress, but lifted a burden off my mind. I don't need to come up with any snappy one liners. I don't need a "current/trendy" Facebook profile pictures. It's been super good =)
I never have used fb/twitter other than once to check an exotic pet shop page (fb) . Couldn't see the point & why everyone was obsessed with it. People used to look amazed when I said I wouldn't do it. I'm so glad I didn't as toxicity can be addictive. (I do put the odd stupid comment on RUclips so not perfect)
Yeah he does give white men a kinda safe place in his podcast , dont mind me i'm a big fan of his 12 ways to better your life thingy , but u gotta question the paradoxical nature that white men victimising the left in going to safe places basically do the same thing
@UncleJemima420 Again i agree with everything u said , i like his books and his thoughts about life and how to make it better ,what i dislike is his argument about IQ and race , it tries to promote white supremacy when a cultural thing would be the right argument eg. Asian americans(Chinese & indians) are most sucessful & rich per person in usa but u would think looking at the state of India & china that wouldnt be the case . he boderline calls black american dumb & unsuccesgul by genes which is absolutely stupid , the argument for african americans being unsuccesful can be attrbuted to cultural phenomenon of single mother raising kids no father around , having a drug problem in black culture & hating authority
That speech about how life isn't a game, and even a game isn't a game... I wish someone told me that in my troubled highschool years.
Just wow. I just feel extremely lucky I heard it now rather than later.
One of the very few "educators" I've come across.
I'm definitely looking for his books tomorrow.
Thanks Joe, for having this podcast.
Exaclty what I though when listening the first time. Just wow.
Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?
Check out the book Finite and Infinite Games by James Carse
The paradox of life is that life is a totally pointless game, and yet it must be played with dead seriousness. You must play the game as if your entire life depends on it, but you must also be conscious that the outcome doesn't matter at all.
Chung Junwoo I have 12 rules for life it's amazing I wish this book was available when i was 20. I'm 28 now but still very interesting and useful insight. I recommend the audiobook. I listen about 2+ hours a day between cleaning around the house and my daily work.commute.
As a 40 yr old man it's so awesome having these 2 men as "mentors" and educators.
33yo, same!
as a 25 yr old young man i feel blessed, peterson gave me a sence of direction again. And to take action.
Same here.
@@thomasandersen5349 the main thing I noticed about both men is they never talk over anyone. They have what is called a "conversation", instead of just waiting for their turn to speak. They both try to address problems from a positive and compassionate POV and even offer solutions.
02:17:14
"It isn't necessarily a mistake to lay yourself open to attack because sometimes it reveals the motives of the attackers."
This is another "mind blown" moment for me because I would never have thought of this in a million years.
nodisalsi Well kids, that's what we call the wisdom!
nodisalsi The Art of War
nodisalsi maybe its just me... But when he says stuff likes this its almost like i knew exactly what he was talking about but i never thought about it yanno? Its like hes articulating something i already know but i didnt know i knew it. Or atleast wasnt aware i had been doing that
It's 3D underwater chess.
I was just telling a co-worker yesterday that, in my yearly work review, I always request feedback from the person on my team who I believe likes me the least. They will either give legit feedback that may be hard for me to hear, but will help me grow, or they will reveal themselves to our boss as being petty and vindictive. This goes to an even deeper level.
Joe Rogan, changing the meaning of the "interview" forever, absolutely the very best at what he does on the world wide web. And Peterson is just an enigma, this is like a book you just cant put down, only better.
Agreed. I would like to say Dr. Peterson's books are worth the read, and the audiobook is read by him so those who don't have the time to read can simply listen to him read his own book to you.
Heh, Joe is about as "devil's advocate" as they come.
Are you sure about that son?
The "B" in his name stands for "bloody"
Jordan Bloody Peterson, now hear him saying that, introducing himself.
😂😂😂
“Im Jordan Bloody Peterson for God’s sake” love it so good.
And good luck with that!
Lol quality
What a great episode.
I watched the whole thing many times since it came out.
Joe should invite him again.
He has, several more times
New one is on Spotify
Me and the wife went to see him speak In London in early 2019.
This guy is a prophet in a sense. He's broken it all down before it happened. We need his wisdom and power right now.
He has a new podcast with his daughter. Here's the link ruclips.net/video/HLWgVpmo1e0/видео.html
@@ithinkimhipster502 I listened to that, it was very sad but still uplifting. The Peterson family raised themselves out of Hell
@@viddykhaos2896 Oh they certainly did. I guess that's why putting yourself in order is so important because you don't know when things will turn to shit. I'm just glad that their family has the fortitude to crawl out of hell.
This single podcast has taught me more about myself and the way I think and how I should improve myself then 14 years of education and 18 years of life...
Sureeeeee
Thank you for your well articulated and insightful response!
I definitely agree with you but..... * "then 14 years of education" should be "than." Just wanted to help reinforce your point!
So are you 32 or 18?
I love that Dr. Peterson's incremental self-improvement is striving to be more effective at helping people. He is on fire and everyone benefits from his success.
He is the only psychologist that I have seen or have known of that actually is affective in helping people.
Thank you for reminding me of my imperfection. Thank you for reminding me of my own role in my despair. I don't know how I let myself get this bad again, with my choices it was inevitable. I f'd around and found out again. I am cleaning up my room, making my bed, focusing on my diet, sleep and work more conscientiously. I pray it will be enough if I keep thinking critically and make the best of everything. Make the most of the present opportunities. Never allowing myself to feel above doing what needs doing. Thank you again Jordan, and thank you again Joe for another great podcast/interview. Really useful stuff.
you've got this.
Don't forget therapy! Work is work, but don't forget to enjoy life as well. Best of luck to you on your journey
I love it when JP makes a long technical psychological point and then goes Canadian, eh?
*aye.
He's Canadian?? I thought he sounded kinda Irish
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John Sheldon yeah he’s Canadian 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
He goes American to Canadian in the same sentence!! 😂
Jordan Peterson got me to fold my damn laundry after weeks, thanks man
Luisafer he actually made me tidy my room which I've been meaning to do for over a month now
Luisafer, can't help feeling Oeterson is overqualified to get you to fold your laundry, but then I don't flirt with Mephstopheles much.
Luisafer He's always watching
Best public reply ever 😂
Luisafer that reminds me, I need to do my dang laundry, change my bed sheets and work out. Incremental progress, lads.
I love that you can see Jordan's passion. When he looks away and takes a sec he's holding back tears at times cause he really feels the point he's trying to express. I really feel that.
Well yeah man I think he is so emotional because on some level it’s so simple, yet most are struggling
Mr R, I know!! Sometimes Im listening for that pause and short breathe 👂🏽👂🏽✨🎶
He is a very sensitive human being, that's for sure.
Which topics makes him emotional?
@@mcseedat when you watch the whole thing you'll see the emotion come to his face. Like when he talking about his daughters illness and how some of what she was doing helped his own issues. Watch the whole thing and you'll see.
Jordan Peterson should be listened to,he's as close to the most honest genius we can get to and he truly cares about peoples general well being.
Desire to clean room intensifies...
You nailed that well sir.
My desire is so intense I gutted my room and am rebuilding it...on to mudding the drywall now
I’m not joking...I really did gut it lol
Mark Freeman .........and it’s gone
Mark Freeman CLEAN
any day now...
When you hear Dr Peterson say " Look, Man!", you are about to receive an intellectual beating.
so true
Ed Hopkins 👑👑🐸🦇🦄
Beautiful obsevation. :D
Haha
Unless you are an Intellectual, then you do the beating!
I had to pause this podcast to make my bed
I hope this is true.
Hahaha
hahaha :'D
K
I put my fitted sheet on my bed finally after about a week.
Thank you JRE and crew for keeping the JP and Randall Carlson/Graham Hancock podcasts up on RUclips!
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Jordan Peterson's raised his suit game.
kushal karki He’s a lot richer these days
Kingsman tailors
McGregor changed his bum life
Jake DeMichele that’s for sure. He’s doing a lot better for himself now that he’s an internet celebrity or whatever we’d call him.
Jordan Peterson is the only person who makes me want to clean my room
EDIT: Woah, thanks for all the likes peeps! And for the record, I have been cleaning my room! Hahahaha. y'all are fantastic, much love
Ben Vu clean your room bucko 🤣🤣
I listened to this on my way home, immediately cleaned my living room upon entry lol
Ben Vu except he doesn’t live his life the way he tells others too.
@Mr. Bum Tickler the prior commenter was making a reference to Dr Peterson's recent medical problems and severe health scares. Unfortunately they seem to have either misread, been misinformed, or misunderstood what was presented to them.
The gist is that Dr Peterson had an extremely severe reaction to a Benzodiazipine he had been proscribed by his doctor. Benzos are also extremely addictive even in prescription doses, and the withdrawal can be life threatening. Dr Peterson tried tapering and micro tapering the meds but wasn't able to detox, so he and his family took him to a specialist clinic in Russia to detox and he was in a medically induced coma for quite awhile. He's now out of the coma and starting to recover, but has a long way to go. The real kicker that makes all this so much worse, is that all this happened and he was proscribed the meds to deal with severe depression as his wife has terminal cancer. AFAIK she's still alive, but IDK what her condition is like.
TLDR my reading is that the prior poster was implying that Dr Peterson had abused prescription meds instead of becoming addicted even while following the Dr's instructions, and then having an extreme reaction to the same meds.
I actually cleaned my room .....
Every time you listen to Dr Peterson your brain levels up. I'm on level 4, i can see in the dark.
@dunk dunkerino well, you would have appreciated it more f u haven't been always able to see in the dark.
and most of the time only be able to empathize if you've experienced being blind in the dark.
but I really wouldn't know bcos i've always been able to see beyond the electro magnetic spectrum.
@dunk dunkerino wat? lol. bc u said ur sad bout it but also said that u haven't experienced it. ;)
Level 5 is x2 scope vision
@@archiehickox6518 you have just unlocked level 6, x-ray vision. :)
You are but a child. I'm on level 69. My vision transcends time and space and matter and am a timelord.
Keep up, kiddos. Embrace the JP.
It is hard to believe how people misunderstand Dr. Peterson......Good GOD, he is about improving the human condition, taking away personal excuses......and increasing personal accountability.
Jordon Peterson is an absolute prodigy in the social media age.
He scares the establishment because he has challenged us to think and grow from our mistakes.
he scares the establishment ebcause he lies about legislation to push a right wing agenda, and he's a crybaby.
@@bordapatrol4930 sharp as a marble this one
@@bordapatrol4930 lool you just admitted that the establishment is fully controlled by far left agenda then :DDDD
@@rsmith155 sick insult. Sorry you had nothing to actually say. Jp is a fake only famous for lying and being a transphobe.
@@tiii4017 its not though. He literally lied to say it was, thats why hes famous. No one was ever jailed over pronouns hes a lying pos who loves to speak on what he knows nothing about, like masculinity and religion.