I just got done reading the book "the evil queen" the book is about how she became what she was and her life with snowwhite and the king. The queen was so in love with the king and loved snowwhite so much in the beginning and always did. Long story short her dad (evil queens) was in love and couldnt get his wife peegnant so he was visited by 3 witches promised him she would have his baby but he had to sell his soul. So he agreed and when the baby was born his wife died. He hated his daughter since always called her ugly useless and shed never have anyone bit she did, the king. So see when her dad died the 3 witches gave her the mirror and the slave in the mirror was her father and the "slave" would have to tell her the truth no matter what.
Didi Luvs Wolfy Cortez the queen became evil becuz Snow White couldn't keep a secret that she told her. The Evil Queen was very heartbroken and then hated snow. Also her father did love her but was murdered by vipers that were from the evil queen. Snows mother died because the evil queens mother hated snows mother too and wanted her daughter to have the royal throne so she killed snows mother. That is how the evil Queen got power and became evil. (ONCE UPON A TIME)
Jo Galbraith um and those classical movies aren't either, only the classical stories are. Also yes it is becuz if u didn't know, OUAT is owned by disney and the show makes so much sense.
What if the Evil Queen is a Fairy Godmother gone rogue? She used her magic in selfish reasons, and other fairy godmothers or the fairy godmother boss, stripped her of her magic? But before all of her powers were stripped, she created a magic mirror, which would always tell her the truth, even when it came to the simple magic that was still left in her. I know there's plot holes, but I just think it would be cool if there were bad fairy godmothers, because not everyone can be born with a pure heart to help people when they need it most.
That might have been a similar case. When the fairy godmother visited the queen after enslaving Snow White, she was told that she abused her powers of the kingdom. Feeling that her promised happiness was never fulfilled, she took the godmothers wand turned, her into stone (like in Cinderella 3), and created a magic laboratory in the castle dungeon were she would harness witchcraft to threaten those who oppose her.
Wotso Videos I came here to see your theory I have another... In Shrek uh that one King dat wanted Fiona Had a magic mirror wat if She took it from him? Or had it before him?
According to the book Fairest of All, she was a peasant that grew up with a cruel father who hated her because his wife died due to giving birth to her. In addition, he was a maker of mirrors and her resemblance of her made him resent her. A widowed king fell in love with her, they got married and she became the step mother of Snow White. After the king died in a war, she became more and more cold. In addition, a group of woman related to the king gave her the magic mirror (the spirit of her father) and magic spell books.
i like the idea that even the "villains" were also watched by fairy godmothers, at least at some point in their lives - it makes the point that it really ISN'T "who you are" that makes you evil, but how your environment shapes you. the unfortunate consequences of the beast's "gifts" and the futility of the "evil" queen's gift show that not even magical fairy godmothers can predict how the outside world might affect you.
This video is amazing! But I'm always wondering, if the Queen can make herself a hag, why couldn't she have just made herself even more beautiful? Did she just want her authentic beauty to be superior?
+Arikm7 *I* can imagine why the Queenwould choose such a grotesque disguise...Given her vanity, just about anyone in the kingdom -- probably even Snow White -- would have expected a more appealing and ostentatious disguise (like an alluring Gypsy songstress, for instance). Thus the form of a beldame seems out of character for Grimhilde. Sinister as the old crone looked, I doubt the dwarves would have realized the old hag's identity on their own (thank you, forrest creatures)!
They're not "godmothers." They're fairies. They only become godmothers when charged with watching over or taking care of a child. Fairies give gifts to people when they're treated well, hence Sleeping Beauty's gifts. It was considered polite to invite fairies to a child's birth day. Maleficent was the only fairy in the kingdom not invited, so she cursed Aurora as a punishment for the king and queen's rudeness.
I wonder what kind of gift Maleficend could give to Aurora if she was invited to the party. I imagine something like this: "oh our beautifull little princess I grant you whit one of the most great gifts of them all, I give you the gift of Indisputable Power"
GirtheAlienGoldfish ummm, Have any of you here read Cris Colfer's "Land of stories"? in that book it exlains how the evil queen got the mirror, The mirror is actually the evil queen aka Evly's first true love, the enchantress cursed the magic mirror aka Mira(Evly's first true love) to become a mirror because Evly was the enchantress' slave but she found out that Mira and Evly are sending letters to eachother so she cursed mira inside a mirror and Evly was devastated and her heart turned to stone thus making her the heartless evil queen in the snow white movie.
I'm guessing the evil queen probably did have happiness in her life but it was taken from her therefore she turned to dark magic & being evil. That's what happened to Regina in Once Upon A Time she had happiness & love but her mother & Snow White ruined it for her. Although you can't blame Snow because Cora Regina's mom manipulated Snow into revealing Regina's plans.
h193013 you want the solution, ONCE UPON A TIME is the solution. It connects all the stories, gives the stories a great twist, and introduces many realms, and concepts of TIME and magic,
My theory is that the Queen was once a fairy godmother that has since gotten out of control. That initially perhaps, she was a benevolent spouse, ruler, and stepmother, but maybe by getting married she was exposed to mortality, something many fairies aren’t accustomed to. That might have made her have a breakdown and become envious of her young stepdaughter.
A Disney book called fairest of them all actually explains disney villains backstories for the evil queen her father was a mirror maker and when she got married to the king(snow whites father) her father dies and after a while a group of women who were related to her father gave her the magic mirror and the spirit in it is her fathers and they gave her a bunch of magic spell books as well
One could argue that by giving Snow White the enchanted apple, the queen became a fairy godmother herself. For, the apple and deep slumber led her to her destiny of meeting the prince and formulating her own happily ever after full of companionship and a love that she had yet to experience. Undoubtedly Snow will take her turn in the natural transitional cycle from "in need of blessing-to blessed-to bestower of blessings". I think the true lesson to take from these stories is the idea that everyone has life experiences and none are completely positive or negative, but it's all a balance of give and take. Ying and yang. It is important to trust in a positive outcome, while being aware that you can never truly know. Who's to say that the queen did not have an explanation from her perspective or that she was evil. It was assumed that the apple was given for malicious intent(because that's the side of the story we've been told); however, even if that were the case, she should get some credit for the resulting outcomes(I.e. Snow's happiness in finding her prince).
There is a interesting tought i had: What if snow White is actually a magic being (or a magic echantet one). Like the beast, the fairy godmother wanted to teach the queen a lesson. The queen already had beauty and everything you cqan think of but she was obsessed with being the beautiest of all. The teaching was that beauty isnt eternal and not a contest AND not only based on your look. So she created a better version of her: Snow white. A "relative" taht is not only younger (and more beauty) but also pure of heart. But the queen, only concerned about her looks never tried to get WHAT actually made snoe White beautiful. So she rather wanted to get rid of her and destroyed her whole life at the end. Meanwhile, Snow white was such a important person for the dwarves (who probably where kinda misshaped for the queen and were kicked out of her kingdom) and the prince that the fairy godmother granted them a wish and brought Snoe white back to life (as blue lday brought Pinocchio to life and turnt him into a boy, even if he isn´t a human being) .
One could argue Mary Poppins has a magic mirror...that she enchanted...also that she is a fairy godmother of sorts...she comes to protect and teach families lessons by way of unexplained mysterious magic...also she has the timeframe factor...
I honestly think that the evil Queen was a witch, that turned herself beautiful to avoid any detection. The Magic Mirror was something that she has created. She saw the Death of the King's first wife, then she made her move. The Skeleton in the Dungeon could have been the King and he died of thirst. As for her being abscessed with her beauty, that could be her way of making sure her magic is still working.
Nah... I think you overcomplicate things. There's nothing to insinuate the evil queen ever was a peasant girl. In my mind everything in DIsney''s version says she studied witchcrafts and "dark arts" and perhaps created the mirror herself, by capturing a demon or a djinn or some other spirit in it. I think the jealousy was the same kind of jealousy beauty pageants show, where the girls do anything to be named the "most beautiful", as if that had any value. If high school girls are prepared to sabotage, poison, even murder, their equals, why not a witch queen, a mistress of dark arts? Especially, when in Snow White's beauty lies the danger of her losing the kingdom to the rightful heir, that is the princess and her spouse.
Hi! I have enjoying your Disney theories especially these ones on fairy godmothers. I just wanted put this idea out there that I theorize that the queen in snow white is a fairy godmother gone bad. She was tired of giving others their happy endings and had the selfish desire force her own "happy ending". That is why she has everything a fairy godmother would have but magnified and twisted because everything is out of proportion.
My theory is that the evil queen was once a fairy godmother, but was jealous of the ones the fairy godmothers served. She was so jealous that she lost most of her power, but she could still remember how to make potions and magical objects. But hey, that's my thoughts.
chris hater or feed Snow White the potion that made her ugly? Answer: she misunderstood the mirrors meaning. It wasn't speaking of beauty in physical sense. It was speaking of her kind purity. Her good heart. And no potion can fix that.
Grimhilda had a fairy godmother? Maybe she IS a fairy. The actual story of Snow White states that the queen has a hand mirror - just like Beast. She said "Mirror mirror in my hand, who's the fairest in the land?" (I once heard that you can trap a ghost in a silver mirror.)
The evil queen is the most clever villain in my opinion because she actually checks if there's an anecdote when she makes the poisoned Apple and the sleeping death spell
I watched Once Upon a Time for the first few seasons. I didn't watch the most recent one when they went to Hell. I didn't love how they continued to do flashbacks to their time before Storybrooke because I just didn't feel it was relevant anymore. I just didn't feel satisfied watching it anymore. Thanks for watching!
Do you think I should try to catch up? Does it get better once they get out of Hell? Is Rumple still awesome? Another reason I don't want to jump in is because the Queen being split up seemed kind of like a weak villain choice to me. I really don't want to rain on your parade if you enjoy the show though! I was watching it in since the beginning but fell off.
I actually liked Once Upon a Time where Snow White had attempted to help her achieve happiness, not knowing Regina (Evil Queen) mother was even more wicked, Regina had fallen for a stable boy, but her mother might as well be Lady Tremaine, determined to have her marry into wealth. Unfortunately her lover is killed by her mother, and she blames Snow White for ruining her happily ever after. I mean it got so dark Snow White’s incarnate used a death spell on Cora (Regina’s mom) because of how manipulative she was, and turns out Cora was a peasant who was constantly mocked, and even killed Snow White’s mother all because she mocked her when she was a little princess.
Disney borrowed from the story of Sleeping Beauty, hoping to make the Prince look more sincere. (His and Snow White's earlier encounter supposedly lent itself to the idea.)
The problem is the Magic Mirror from Snow White was a spirit imprisoned within the mirror who is referred to as "the Slave". The Beast's mirror merely showed him what he wanted and there was no indication it was intelligent or "a Slave".
You should read the book "Fairest of All: Tale of the Wicked Queen" by Serena Valentino. It covers a good back story for the queen. Very similar to what you described.
Also, she is a great powerful witch and was practicing the Occult. In ancient wisdom, a sorcerer/witch had the power to summon spirits and talk to them through various objects like crystal balls, incense, or a black mirror like the one in the movie. So, the spirit living within the mirror enhanced her powers.
Can we be sure that the Queen is actually not a fairy godmother (since you pointed out that fairy godmothers like to dress up as old lady)? She gave Snowwhite an enchanted apple, but idiot Snowwhite choked...?
In fact the apple was a magic item, the Queen cursed it herself. And ultimately is the apple that guided Snow White to meet her prince. The apple is the iconic item in this story.
missymani sooo I think I agree with Mat Pat's theory about the fairy god mother. Issac made the enchantress good in his theory and the whole fairy god mother thing was also nice but he should have first tried to put his old theory into the new one (no offense though he makes great videos). I love the way you brought that part out. This reply on comment is actually better than the whole video !!! 🤣🤣🤣
The evil queen or otherwise known as Maleficent was revealed to be a fairy herself, a powerful one but not all fairies are godmothers. Therefore, she has powers to needn't of any assistance with magic
if you look at the ouat version of things.. the evil queen had her own magic and created the mirror herself.. but she was visited by a faire who showed her to her true love
dragonwatter You are so right.. I can't believe I completely forgot it was the Jeanie and not the queen.. but that still "disproves" that the mirror came from a faire godmother
thanks and wasn't arguing with your point just were the mirror came from. and i am kinda obessed with once upon a time. it's like the s=only tv show currently running i watch.
ans his theory assumes the only way to get a magic mirror is from a fairy god mother and that his previous theories are correct. just because some magic mirrors come from fairy god mothers doesn't meen all magic mirrors come from fairy god mothers.
I think the enchantress from Beauty and the Beast IS the evil queen from Snow White. They both pretended to be a old woman and cursed people. And the reason she cursed the Beast wasn't because he was selfish, it was because she was jealous. And the evil queen is the one who killed the parents of the Beast and Snow White.
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I'll admit this is something I did neglect. I guess if I included fairies then I should of also included the dark fairies. I think I will eventually do an unofficial part 3 that explains the role of dark fairies in the stories. Thanks for watching!
There is still one very important detail to the story... (which could explain HOW she became evil and misguided even after the help from good fairy (as other mentioned they fairies not "godmother", they just sometimes can "earn" that title)) how she get into possession of one of the wicken nine artifacts? (Or in other words how did part of Vor's ring ended up in her crown...)
No this is wrong it says in the book (fairest of all) the sisters (lucinda, martha and Ruby) gave it to her before the King died. It is her father's soul in it. The king died in a battle. Snow White wasn't the first jealousy it was verona (her sister). Her father was forced to say she was the fairest of them all.
Interesting but i was always thought she was a sorceress herself. The mirror was an item that was stolen for her and she in the end disgusted by the love her husband had for his daughter and raged by jealousy killed the king to gain full reign and used snow whites youth until the she came of age and the fairest one of all was revealed. That mirror was a prong to her evil doings, hunting down fairest fairs and killing them.
Have you read the book Fairest? It's like poor unfortunate soul. According to it, 3 witches trapped the evil queen's father's soul, who was a mirror maker, in a mirror and gave it to the queen. They used it to turn the queen into an evil witch.
I seriously love this theory!! Plus, I don't know if you watch ONCE UPON A TIME, but interestingly enough there is a Season 3 episode, "Quite a Common Fairy," where Tinker Bell (a fairy) believes she can help Regina (the Evil Queen) by leading her to her happy ending; but because it has to do with love and Regina is afraid of it, Tinker Bell fails and Regina goes on to become the Evil Queen. Sure, the magic mirror isn't in this episode, but...it shows that there is a link between fairies visiting the Evil Queen in her early days...
That sounds like a possibility--Malecificent *was* the sort of habitual yet spontaneous sadist who would corrupt a vulnerable young woman [as opposed to the sort of villain the Queen is shown to be, who is self-serving and has clear-cut motives ].
+Daniel Levinson I know Maleficent wanted revenge for the royal family's neglecting to invite her to the banquet... Dialogue from the three good fairies, however, make it clear that Maleficent does evil just because she can (and clearly gets a kick out of it).
I remember Grumpy mentioning that the Evil Queen is a witch; I think the evil queen made the magic mirrior herself; like if she had the power to make potions, she could cast a spell is inslave someone and trapped someone in the mirror; could be one of her servents whom betrayed her. It could be an ordinary mirror before she cast a spell on one of her servents. I mean why do you suppose there was a skeleton in the prison cell? Could be one of her servents that have betrayed her. Like I remember the scene where she ordered the Huntsmen to take her out to the forest and then kill her. But when he tries to explain after being shocked to what she said, the queen warned him about the penalty if he fails. what do you think?:)
When the mirror finally said Snow White was the fairest of them all after all those yrs of saying otherwise, I have a feeling the mirror had decided to refer to the "inner beauty" of each woman...Snow White was an innocent young girl who bore no hatred to anyone and was kind to all fellows(animal or not) whereas the queen constantly haboured hatred and jealousy in her heart, making her all ugly inside... Perhaps the mirror changed reference as the queen constantly kept asking the same question over and over all the while expecting (or hoping) for the same answer...
maybe the "fairy godmother" wasn't a fairy godmother, maybe she is a witch godmother. i mean, if there are fairy godmothers it must have witch godmothers too Im from Portugal so this comment May have some errors
ummm, Have any of you here read Cris Colfer's "Land of stories"? in that book it exlains how the evil queen got the mirror, The mirror is actually the evil queen aka Evly's first true love, the enchantress cursed the magic mirror aka Mira(Evly's first true love) to become a mirror because Evly was the enchantress' slave but she found out that Mira and Evly are sending letters to eachother so she cursed mira inside a mirror and Evly was devastated and her heart turned to stone thus making her the heartless evil queen in the snow white movie.
Y'all should just read "The Land of Stories" it's a great series and explains how all disney princes and princesses are all connected to eachother, even Goldilocks and Red Riding Hood
Have you ever heard of Serena Valentino's Fairest of All? I think it's a great story behind the Evil Queen! Though, I really liked your theory. I'll definitely be watching more of your videos. :)
This movie is almost 90 years old. It would be more interesting if you talked about the film in its cultural context, rather than applying modern ideologies that simply didn't exist when it was made.
I think the queen made the mirror herself. She proved she could do magic, why wouldn't she create the magic mirror? The queen may have her bitterness from the reason you gave, but the mirror was her creation to keep tabs on everyone so she could stay the most beautiful. Maybe it's because appearance matters and a prettier person would be more likely to be followed instead of the queen and she was power-hungry?
There is always two sides Light magic and Dark Magic couldn't it just be that the Queen dove in Dark Magic and made the mirror herself which would means no fairy godmother was involved. In the TV series it was discovered that the guy in the mirror was in love with the Queen and did her bidding and got put into the mirror.
Laura Catania had a good theory that maybe the queen was a fallen fairy Godmother. Maybe the evil queen is a fallen fairy Godmother just like Maleficent is a fallen or dark fairy. Perhaps the death of her actual true love turned her dark but she was supposed to be Snow's fairy Godmother. Instead of helping her she became jealous of her Goddaughter because she was going to have the happy ending the queen felt had been stolen from her. So she married the king not for love or power but to make Snow's life miserable. All the while she still thought of her true love. Maybe it was him that used to call her "the fairest in the land" and that is why she is so obsessed with the title. And with the king always pointing out how beautiful and perfect his daughter was it only added salt to the wound. So she made the magic mirror to remind her that she was truly the fairest in the land. That title was all she had left. Then as you say when Snow's beauty finally surpassed her own she snapped.
Assuming we dismiss the allegations of Fairest of Them All, only a remote chance exists that Grimhilde ever crossed paths with a fairy godmother. Queenie's character, motives, and moda operandi clearly show rancorous self-reliance, especially considering her determination to murder Snow White directly when oblique methods failed. Don't forget that her behavior and interests are narcissistic rather than borderline [the latter being proposed by Fairest of Them All]. Grimhilde is widely understood to be a sorceress, you know, and that concept more than sufficiently explains why she possesses that terrible mirror.
have you read "fairest of them all" it's a great book about the evil Queen and explained how she got the mirror and how the "slave" came to be trapped in the mirror. her father was a master Smith of glass and mirrors kings came around to buy his works. later in life he was spiteful that he lost his wife due to childbirth so he resented the child and constantly told her how she was so ugly and it affected her so much she truly believed it. as she grew older she became quite a beautiful woman but was unable to get past her father's words even when the king came to buy a mirror and ended up falling in love she didn't believe it was real. fast forward to the wedding day she was given that very mirror as a gift and token of the kings love, there she meats her cousins where hold and behold they are witches like her mother and her herself. later on the king dies in war and she banishes the mirror out of pain. later a spell is casted that traps her father's soul into the mirror he is now forced to tell her everyday that she is beautiful. there is so much to the story but this was just the part of the book about the mirror, you can buy the books at Disneyland that's where I got my copy.
While watching this I got a crazy idea, What if the evil queen from snow white was actually both the enchantress from beauty and the beast as well as the fairy god mother from Cinderella.
My question is if the evil queen relied on a fairy godmother for magical intervention, why did she turn to witchcraft? (the numerous books and skilled use of magical tools indicates she's been practicing magic for quite some time.)
Well we don't know how long she has been living without our King so her practicing of a witchcraft could have been for many years. Thanks for watching.
hey! interesting theory! according to part 1, you mentioned that the fairy godmothers gave a time requirement for their magic! what do you think was the requirement given to the evil queen? :)
Interesting theory. What if a Fairy Godmother had given the Magic Mirror to Snow White as a gift and then the Queen simply commandeered it away for herself? I have always loved this movie, but never gave the origin of the Magic Mirror much thought. Intriguing.
This is a very interesting theory! And as an addition to this I would like to add that this may be an explenation to why snowwhite didn't get any help from any fairy godmother as cinderella or aurora did. Because the fairy godmother looked upon how hard she failed with the evil queen and might have been to scarred of making things worse to help snow.
Mhmm. I think that is definitely possible. It also could be that the fairy godmother knew after making her mistake that the Queen would end up destroying herself so Snow would be better off if she didn't intervene. Thanks for watching!
es da queen the budget back then was not as much as what Disney has today. As you can see with sleeping beauty, these movies were low budget for at the time they didn't have enough cash flow as Disney was just starting out. adding background characters was an expense they probably decided to cut out
Or maybe they did that on purpose that the evil queen killed all the girls in the village to keep her beauty and the men were only use was to kill so all the villagers left
Exsept some men in the village that are all brothers there were 7 of them who stayed there and mined ( looking for dimands) and finds all the dead bodies of girls that the queen killed and makes a coffin to put them in which would explain why they have a coffin out of no were
+es da queen No, novelizations of the film explicitly state that "all the lovely ladies of the kingdom lived in terror". That wouldn't be possible if the Queen hexed all other women out of existence... Walt Disney told one of his lead animators "We've got to get back to the Witch" after viewing the soup-eating sequence he later had deleted. His words just as clearly explain the villagers' lack of visibility.
I always assumed the diamonds the dwarves get from their mind went back the queen, as she is ruler of the country/ land, and therefor also the mine. I would assume they get to keep a minimum and the rest went as taxes or so on to the crown. Also it is quite possible that either she enchanted the mirror herself, and the voice in it is her king. That he did found her beautiful once alive and when he did his soul was kept in the mirror for him to keep telling her that. Or that she didn’t get it from a fairy godmother but another witch or wizard, but it’s enchanted to only tell the truth, so once it found Snow White more beautiful it could not lie. Or maybe since the Queen thought so herself that reflected up in the mirror and the mirror confirmed it.
Actually if you read the book “fairest of all” by Serena Valentino Said some very interesting story lines for the evil queen but her real name is Grimhilde, of course her father used to make mirrors 🪞 for a living but he always called her ugly and that lowered her self esteem. Turns out though that she was actually very nice to Snow White since the king died in war and when Grimhilde’s father died he was put inside a magical mirror where he could only speak the truth and was now calling his daughter beautiful which made Grimhilde very happy and she could now ask her father ( the mirror ) anything but one day when Snow White was 14 years old he started saying snow was more beautiful so yada yada yada we all know how that goes.
I did. I posted mine before him :D It was completely unintentional though. I have never been able to make contact with the Film Theorists before. Pretty cool coincidence though! Thanks for watching!
This is very similar to the Once Upon a Time's version of the Evil Queen. Of course there the mirror came to be because of a wish, but the rest is very similar.
Couldn't the evil queen be a fairy godmother?? She could've been trained to be a fairy godmother but was stripped of her magic and only had the mirror and potion training to remind her of her past.
I'm happy you agree! In Snow's defense, she is one of the youngest princesses Disney has created which makes her one of the most innocent and naive princesses. Thanks for watching.
That is true but this was made in 1935 so that kind of princess was the kind of female that was most prevalent back then so her getting saved by the prince was what happened to most women back then they found their man and got married but it's sooooo different now that this story falls flat for many women.
My favorite place is a cabin in the woods that my family went to for a couple weeks a few years back. We haven't gone there in years due to money constraints, but I remember how much I loved it there. (I also love Disney World, and went there for the first time in more than a decade back in February. I had a ton of fun with my parents, but all our feet were hurting by the end of our stay there.)
Tamar Adelsohn. I love the cabins in Disney's Fort Wilderness Resort and Campgrounds. When I was little there were no cabins and it was just called Disney's Fort Wilderness Campgrounds. So anyways did you all have new shoes to wear at WDW?
Scott Houston No, we didn't, because it was straining our finances slightly to get there in the first place but we wanted to go because my mom had very old but not expired passes and we hadn't been there in over a decade. (And we were in the area anyway for family reasons.) We planned everything but new shoes, and besides, we would've needed to have broken the shoes in before they would've been comfortable to walk in.
Tamar Adelsohn I just heard never to wear new shoes while at WDW. We kind of learned it was true back in Sept 2014. Thanks to my Mom and her use of Odor Eaters Spray on my broken in shoes and the night time rain. :)
I love your Disney theories!!! Wouldn't it be amazing if Disney would start making prequels of all the classic stories focused on the villains. Kind of like a evil origins movies, where we learn about the villians pasts and how they have become evil.
See what you just did here is what the movie Maleficent failed to do. You managed to show us the backstory of a villain and make us sympathize with them. Where the Maleficent movie failed in making the same argument you just did, was that they tried to justify Maleficent's actions by putting the blame on everyone else. This does not make us sympathize with a character, it just makes us hate all the other characters. Your argument doesn't try to justify the Queen's actions, but instead shows us the motivations behind them. By your argument, the Queen is no less evil, but her evil comes from a very honest and very human place that lets be honest any of us could make the same mistakes. She kind of reminds me of people who dream of becoming celebrities because they think they will have true love and happiness, only to be disappointed when they learn that fame and fortune does not bring those things at all. Well done.
The main reason I used it in this case was because it seemed like a logical argument for the time period since I wasn't really sure. Thanks for watching!
I think the reason the Evil Queen (actually named Grimhilde in the Disney version) is driven to treat Snow White cruelly and eventually attempt her murder is her fear of losing more than her looks. At that time, men were preferred to rule over a female heir. As the King’s only child, Snow’s future son, a male heir, would rule, and the Queen was likely acting as a sort of regent until Snow married. A sure way to guarantee that would never happen was to hide her away as a servant, possibly marring her looks and shortening her life through hard labor. As she grew more attractive and approached marrying age (then about 13/14), she became a serious threat. Once she attracted the Prince’s attention, the Queen grew desperate and had to act fast. Because she treated her cruelly, once married and free of her control, Snow would likely have her banished or locked away. She does in the Disney film, but in the Grimm version, the new royal couple has her punished for her shenanigans (and multiple murder attempts) by forcing her to dance in red hot shoes until she burns alive, so maybe her fears weren’t completely unfounded. By the way, Snow White was the actually the first Disney Queen. Upon the death of the disguised stepmother, Snow became queen by birthright of her own kingdom before ever marrying the Prince. I do like the idea of the fairy godmother giving the Queen the mirror. Like the theory that the Evil Queen survived the fall by landing near the healing flower and became Gothel, trying to stave off the old age her own magic created and living for centuries (Rapunzel seems to takes place centuries later in the same area...maybe the tower is all that’s left of the original castle), I wonder if all the fairy godmothers are connected. Like maybe the Blue Fairy is also the Enchantress who changed the Beast and gave him the mirror, also changing Pinocchio, maybe even the one that gave the magic mirror to the Queen...maybe the Beasts mirror is a piece of the Queen’s mirror? Maybe without the magic flower, the fairy godmother also aged and became Cinderella’s fairy godmother, getting forgetful as she aged. Or maybe she aged as people stopped believing in magic.
In Serena Valentino's book "Fairest of All", It says that the 3 sisters, the king's cousins, gave her the mirror as a wedding gift. Queen Grimhilde was verbally/emotionally abused by her father, who blamed the Queen for her mother's death. Her father states that the Queen's mother was his true love, so when she died, he felt his life was over. He hated Queen Grimhilde because she reminded him so much of his wife. The voice in the mirror was her father, and he was the reason she was so obsessed with her looks and insecurities. It's said that the 3 odd sisters had spelled or cursed the mirror. After the king's death, the Queen went insane with the mirror, staying in her room all day, barely seeing Snow. I personally like that version better because it is so much like reality, where parents are the reason their kids think they're never good enough. I feel that way because of my mom.
Even when I go back to watch this Disney Version, or Play Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep, I still refer to her as Regina. She is the one and only Evil Queen now.
What if the Queen was in fact Snow White's Fairy Godmother? In your previous video, you mentioned how they can sometimes act in unclear and convoluted ways to give their subjects their happy ending. What if the Queen wanted to help her out of her loneliness, and what if the "apple" was just another magical object gifted by the Godmother? If godmothers are capable of handing out magic mirrors, then it must mean they have similarly functioning magic mirrors of their own. The Queen did use hers to spy on Snow.
I read a book, where the evil queen's mirror is her long lost love, who had gotten trapped by a evil fairy. And it was impossible for a person to become free once trapped in the mirror. But the Evil queen (Evie) didn't believe that and she thought that if she became queen she would have excess to better sorceress. So she placed a love spell on the king making him fall in love with her. But as the queen grew older she couldn't stand the pain in her heart so she ripped her own heart out and froze it. leaving her to not care about anything except her own beauty
Love all your videos! Just a random thought. As you were explaining that the evil queen might have had a fairy god mother herself - what if that fairy god mother was an evil one which explains the evil queens evilness? The one character that comes to mind would be maleficent as she is also considered a fairy but is evil. Also sleeping beauty's story take place between the 1400's and 1500's and Snow White is said to take place between the 1500's and 1550's so they're not very far apart in in time! Just a thought!
Her real name is Regina..first of all it's her servant whom she love before Snow-white's Farther.She caught him up and put him in the mirror.She even has a daughter named Evie
I read a book about Snow White and the Seven Dwarves from the Evil Queen's point of view. In summary, she loved Snow until the King's sisters gave her a mirror that had her father inside it, calling her beautiful. Soon her maid out does her, and the Queen sends her away. Then Snow, out does her, and the Queen acts more and more irritable around her. Soon, she uses a potion to disguises herself, and poisons Snow. After realizing that the potion does not have a cure, she decides to let the Dwarves kill her.
Snow White never received help from a Fairy Godmother because she never hit rock bottom in her unhappiness. Despite the fact that she lost her parents at such a young age, she would often read her late mother's diary and discover that true is happiness comes from both the kindness you give to others and the care you receive in return. Therefore she believed that as long as you're kind to everyone around you, you will find inner happiness. Like she said in song form : "Remember you're the one who can fill the world with sunshine".
The movie earned more points for me when it was featured in _Gremlins_. The ones who weren't actually eating the tape got one of the film reels working and the mining scene popped up. The whole theater of Gremlins started singing and laughing hysterically. XD
Or, maybe the dwarves live together like that because it was their temporary mining home, saving up until it was time to go their separate ways. It's a very common practice among mining communities, especially among family, which I suspect the dwarves were.
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I just got done reading the book "the evil queen" the book is about how she became what she was and her life with snowwhite and the king. The queen was so in love with the king and loved snowwhite so much in the beginning and always did. Long story short her dad (evil queens) was in love and couldnt get his wife peegnant so he was visited by 3 witches promised him she would have his baby but he had to sell his soul. So he agreed and when the baby was born his wife died. He hated his daughter since always called her ugly useless and shed never have anyone bit she did, the king. So see when her dad died the 3 witches gave her the mirror and the slave in the mirror was her father and the "slave" would have to tell her the truth no matter what.
AJ Forrester i think serena Valentino
Didi Luvs Wolfy Cortez the queen became evil becuz Snow White couldn't keep a secret that she told her. The Evil Queen was very heartbroken and then hated snow. Also her father did love her but was murdered by vipers that were from the evil queen. Snows mother died because the evil queens mother hated snows mother too and wanted her daughter to have the royal throne so she killed snows mother. That is how the evil Queen got power and became evil. (ONCE UPON A TIME)
Jo Galbraith um and those classical movies aren't either, only the classical stories are. Also yes it is becuz if u didn't know, OUAT is owned by disney and the show makes so much sense.
that book you described the book 'fairest of all'
Leah Cubston yes
What if the Evil Queen is a Fairy Godmother gone rogue? She used her magic in selfish reasons, and other fairy godmothers or the fairy godmother boss, stripped her of her magic? But before all of her powers were stripped, she created a magic mirror, which would always tell her the truth, even when it came to the simple magic that was still left in her. I know there's plot holes, but I just think it would be cool if there were bad fairy godmothers, because not everyone can be born with a pure heart to help people when they need it most.
That might have been a similar case. When the fairy godmother visited the queen after enslaving Snow White, she was told that she abused her powers of the kingdom. Feeling that her promised happiness was never fulfilled, she took the godmothers wand turned, her into stone (like in Cinderella 3), and created a magic laboratory in the castle dungeon were she would harness witchcraft to threaten those who oppose her.
That could work to.
Maggie McCan hmmm interesting theory
Have ya heard of maleficent
I would like to agree
Another theory. Maybe the evil queen is a fallen fairy godmother, since she also has magic
nah. she was using potions and poisons. she doesn'r have wand😂
Sharon Rose unless her wand was taken/ destroyed due to her evil tendencies...
+Sharon Rose Exactly, she much moreresembled any male sorcerer than a fairy godmother!
+Daniel Levinson Oops, typo... "much *more resembles*..."
That's a good one! The evil queen is a fallen fairy Godmother just like Maleficent is a fallen or dark fairy.
In the end the evil queen(witch) is a princess that was never saved
If this theory was a book, that would be the final line. Thanks for watching!
Wotso Videos -You're welcome man! And continue the good work. 👍 😃
Will do! Thanks for the support.
Isaac's right, it's a beautiful line 👍
Wotso Videos I came here to see your theory I have another... In Shrek uh that one King dat wanted Fiona Had a magic mirror wat if She took it from him? Or had it before him?
According to the book Fairest of All, she was a peasant that grew up with a cruel father who hated her because his wife died due to giving birth to her. In addition, he was a maker of mirrors and her resemblance of her made him resent her. A widowed king fell in love with her, they got married and she became the step mother of Snow White. After the king died in a war, she became more and more cold. In addition, a group of woman related to the king gave her the magic mirror (the spirit of her father) and magic spell books.
i like the idea that even the "villains" were also watched by fairy godmothers, at least at some point in their lives - it makes the point that it really ISN'T "who you are" that makes you evil, but how your environment shapes you. the unfortunate consequences of the beast's "gifts" and the futility of the "evil" queen's gift show that not even magical fairy godmothers can predict how the outside world might affect you.
Very well put! This is a great way of explaining the theory and it's exactly how I feel as well. Thanks for watching!
This video is amazing! But I'm always wondering, if the Queen can make herself a hag, why couldn't she have just made herself even more beautiful? Did she just want her authentic beauty to be superior?
Or maybe, being fair is more than just looks. Maybe the mirror was eluding to inner beauty which Snow White held and the Queen never could.
yes! that sounds amazing
+Arikm7 *I* can imagine why the Queenwould choose such a grotesque disguise...Given her vanity, just about anyone in the kingdom -- probably even Snow White -- would have expected a more appealing and ostentatious disguise (like an alluring Gypsy songstress, for instance). Thus the form of a beldame seems out of character for Grimhilde. Sinister as the old crone looked, I doubt the dwarves would have realized the old hag's identity on their own (thank you, forrest creatures)!
fairytales are usually metaphoric, so Snow's beauty could be a metaphor for her innocence and virtue
maybe she just wanted her beauty to be natural, to be her true self.
They're not "godmothers." They're fairies. They only become godmothers when charged with watching over or taking care of a child. Fairies give gifts to people when they're treated well, hence Sleeping Beauty's gifts. It was considered polite to invite fairies to a child's birth day. Maleficent was the only fairy in the kingdom not invited, so she cursed Aurora as a punishment for the king and queen's rudeness.
Maleficent actually a good person..were blame Aurora parents..that not invited Maleficent for Birth of Princess
I wonder what kind of gift Maleficend could give to Aurora if she was invited to the party. I imagine something like this: "oh our beautifull little princess I grant you whit one of the most great gifts of them all, I give you the gift of Indisputable Power"
GirtheAlienGoldfish ummm, Have any of you here read Cris Colfer's "Land of stories"? in that book it exlains how the evil queen got the mirror, The mirror is actually the evil queen aka Evly's first true love, the enchantress cursed the magic mirror aka Mira(Evly's first true love) to become a mirror because Evly was the enchantress' slave but she found out that Mira and Evly are sending letters to eachother so she cursed mira inside a mirror and Evly was devastated and her heart turned to stone thus making her the heartless evil queen in the snow white movie.
Once Upon a Time covered both. Her fairy godmother was Tinkerbell and the Marriott was just given to her and she enchanted it
Yeah! ouat is a great show covering different povs
But that’s not canon to the Disney universe the show is all based on the question what if the evil queen got her happy ending?
I'm guessing the evil queen probably did have happiness in her life but it was taken from her therefore she turned to dark magic & being evil. That's what happened to Regina in Once Upon A Time she had happiness & love but her mother & Snow White ruined it for her. Although you can't blame Snow because Cora Regina's mom manipulated Snow into revealing Regina's plans.
You should write a story connecting all these Disney movies
The Full Disney Theory... coming 2020. Just kidding :D That would sure be fun that's for sure. Thanks for watching.
h193013 Qnd
h193013 you want the solution, ONCE UPON A TIME is the solution. It connects all the stories, gives the stories a great twist, and introduces many realms, and concepts of TIME and magic,
until season 6 yes, then they mess up stuff.
Leah Cubston they started these mess in season 5
My theory is that the Queen was once a fairy godmother that has since gotten out of control. That initially perhaps, she was a benevolent spouse, ruler, and stepmother, but maybe by getting married she was exposed to mortality, something many fairies aren’t accustomed to. That might have made her have a breakdown and become envious of her young stepdaughter.
A Disney book called fairest of them all actually explains disney villains backstories for the evil queen her father was a mirror maker and when she got married to the king(snow whites father) her father dies and after a while a group of women who were related to her father gave her the magic mirror and the spirit in it is her fathers and they gave her a bunch of magic spell books as well
One could argue that by giving Snow White the enchanted apple, the queen became a fairy godmother herself. For, the apple and deep slumber led her to her destiny of meeting the prince and formulating her own happily ever after full of companionship and a love that she had yet to experience. Undoubtedly Snow will take her turn in the natural transitional cycle from "in need of blessing-to blessed-to bestower of blessings". I think the true lesson to take from these stories is the idea that everyone has life experiences and none are completely positive or negative, but it's all a balance of give and take. Ying and yang. It is important to trust in a positive outcome, while being aware that you can never truly know. Who's to say that the queen did not have an explanation from her perspective or that she was evil. It was assumed that the apple was given for malicious intent(because that's the side of the story we've been told); however, even if that were the case, she should get some credit for the resulting outcomes(I.e. Snow's happiness in finding her prince).
There is a interesting tought i had:
What if snow White is actually a magic being (or a magic echantet one). Like the beast, the fairy godmother wanted to teach the queen a lesson. The queen already had beauty and everything you cqan think of but she was obsessed with being the beautiest of all. The teaching was that beauty isnt eternal and not a contest AND not only based on your look. So she created a better version of her: Snow white. A "relative" taht is not only younger (and more beauty) but also pure of heart. But the queen, only concerned about her looks never tried to get WHAT actually made snoe White beautiful. So she rather wanted to get rid of her and destroyed her whole life at the end. Meanwhile, Snow white was such a important person for the dwarves (who probably where kinda misshaped for the queen and were kicked out of her kingdom) and the prince that the fairy godmother granted them a wish and brought Snoe white back to life (as blue lday brought Pinocchio to life and turnt him into a boy, even if he isn´t a human being) .
One could argue Mary Poppins has a magic mirror...that she enchanted...also that she is a fairy godmother of sorts...she comes to protect and teach families lessons by way of unexplained mysterious magic...also she has the timeframe factor...
Nah. The mirror was the one making the queen insecure by telling her she isn't the fairest.
Bunny Isaac correct and incorrect
Lance P Pillay how so XD
Bunny Isaac ikr!
+Bunny Isaac o
+Bunny Isaac o
I honestly think that the evil Queen was a witch, that turned herself beautiful to avoid any detection. The Magic Mirror was something that she has created. She saw the Death of the King's first wife, then she made her move. The Skeleton in the Dungeon could have been the King and he died of thirst. As for her being abscessed with her beauty, that could be her way of making sure her magic is still working.
Nah... I think you overcomplicate things. There's nothing to insinuate the evil queen ever was a peasant girl. In my mind everything in DIsney''s version says she studied witchcrafts and "dark arts" and perhaps created the mirror herself, by capturing a demon or a djinn or some other spirit in it. I think the jealousy was the same kind of jealousy beauty pageants show, where the girls do anything to be named the "most beautiful", as if that had any value. If high school girls are prepared to sabotage, poison, even murder, their equals, why not a witch queen, a mistress of dark arts? Especially, when in Snow White's beauty lies the danger of her losing the kingdom to the rightful heir, that is the princess and her spouse.
I really enjoyed listening to your take on it! I liked it a lot. Thanks for watching!
Hi! I have enjoying your Disney theories especially these ones on fairy godmothers. I just wanted put this idea out there that I theorize that the queen in snow white is a fairy godmother gone bad. She was tired of giving others their happy endings and had the selfish desire force her own "happy ending". That is why she has everything a fairy godmother would have but magnified and twisted because everything is out of proportion.
I'm glad you have enjoyed the fairy godmother videos! Cool thoughts! You gave me a lot to think about. Thanks for watching!
My theory is that the evil queen was once a fairy godmother, but was jealous of the ones the fairy godmothers served. She was so jealous that she lost most of her power, but she could still remember how to make potions and magical objects. But hey, that's my thoughts.
why didnt the queen make a potion that would make her more beautiful ?i mean problem solved right?
chris hater or feed Snow White the potion that made her ugly?
Answer: she misunderstood the mirrors meaning. It wasn't speaking of beauty in physical sense. It was speaking of her kind purity. Her good heart.
And no potion can fix that.
oh riiiiiiiiiight!
Xochic The T-Rex exactly
Arikm7 I remember that version. I am sure someone could pull some anti vanity rhetoric from a killer comb and a deadly corset. 😜
oh that was the best version
Grimhilda had a fairy godmother? Maybe she IS a fairy.
The actual story of Snow White states that the queen has a hand mirror - just like Beast. She said "Mirror mirror in my hand, who's the fairest in the land?" (I once heard that you can trap a ghost in a silver mirror.)
You are not alone at suggesting this in the comments. I seriously think this is a possibility. Thanks for watching!
The evil queen is the most clever villain in my opinion because she actually checks if there's an anecdote when she makes the poisoned Apple and the sleeping death spell
have you seen the show Once Upon a Time ? If yes , what are your thoughts on it ?
I watched Once Upon a Time for the first few seasons. I didn't watch the most recent one when they went to Hell. I didn't love how they continued to do flashbacks to their time before Storybrooke because I just didn't feel it was relevant anymore. I just didn't feel satisfied watching it anymore. Thanks for watching!
Cecilia Cornejo I haven't, but I'm going to!
Wotso Videos awwww bummer ! I mean not all shows always meet our interests haha but I'm still currently caught up with the show haha
Disney Lover definitely give it a try :D
Do you think I should try to catch up? Does it get better once they get out of Hell? Is Rumple still awesome? Another reason I don't want to jump in is because the Queen being split up seemed kind of like a weak villain choice to me. I really don't want to rain on your parade if you enjoy the show though! I was watching it in since the beginning but fell off.
I actually liked Once Upon a Time where Snow White had attempted to help her achieve happiness, not knowing Regina (Evil Queen) mother was even more wicked, Regina had fallen for a stable boy, but her mother might as well be Lady Tremaine, determined to have her marry into wealth. Unfortunately her lover is killed by her mother, and she blames Snow White for ruining her happily ever after. I mean it got so dark Snow White’s incarnate used a death spell on Cora (Regina’s mom) because of how manipulative she was, and turns out Cora was a peasant who was constantly mocked, and even killed Snow White’s mother all because she mocked her when she was a little princess.
so.... the Prince kissed a sleeping/dead 14 year old girl..... creepy
Disney borrowed from the story of Sleeping Beauty, hoping to make the Prince look more sincere. (His and Snow White's earlier encounter supposedly lent itself to the idea.)
it's even creepier in the original, Snow was 7
+Isabela Lopes Leal I remember that version...
Kat-rick Str-ona I didn't even know she was 14
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The problem is the Magic Mirror from Snow White was a spirit imprisoned within the mirror who is referred to as "the Slave". The Beast's mirror merely showed him what he wanted and there was no indication it was intelligent or "a Slave".
You should read the book "Fairest of All: Tale of the Wicked Queen" by Serena Valentino. It covers a good back story for the queen. Very similar to what you described.
Also, she is a great powerful witch and was practicing the Occult. In ancient wisdom, a sorcerer/witch had the power to summon spirits and talk to them through various objects like crystal balls, incense, or a black mirror like the one in the movie. So, the spirit living within the mirror enhanced her powers.
Can we be sure that the Queen is actually not a fairy godmother (since you pointed out that fairy godmothers like to dress up as old lady)? She gave Snowwhite an enchanted apple, but idiot Snowwhite choked...?
jccjccjoanne the Queen didn't give Snow magic items.
In fact the apple was a magic item, the Queen cursed it herself. And ultimately is the apple that guided Snow White to meet her prince. The apple is the iconic item in this story.
missymani sooo I think I agree with Mat Pat's theory about the fairy god mother. Issac made the enchantress good in his theory and the whole fairy god mother thing was also nice but he should have first tried to put his old theory into the new one (no offense though he makes great videos). I love the way you brought that part out. This reply on comment is actually better than the whole video !!! 🤣🤣🤣
jccjccjoanne 🤣 lol she choked end of story 🤣🤣🤣😂😂!!!
True
The evil queen or otherwise known as Maleficent was revealed to be a fairy herself, a powerful one but not all fairies are godmothers. Therefore, she has powers to needn't of any assistance with magic
if you look at the ouat version of things.. the evil queen had her own magic and created the mirror herself.. but she was visited by a faire who showed her to her true love
actualy the mirror wasn't magc untill the jeanie wished him self in to it.
dragonwatter You are so right.. I can't believe I completely forgot it was the Jeanie and not the queen.. but that still "disproves" that the mirror came from a faire godmother
GodsChild777 good point.. it appears I need to do more research.. I still don't think the mirror came from a faire though.
thanks and wasn't arguing with your point just were the mirror came from. and i am kinda obessed with once upon a time. it's like the s=only tv show currently running i watch.
ans his theory assumes the only way to get a magic mirror is from a fairy god mother and that his previous theories are correct. just because some magic mirrors come from fairy god mothers doesn't meen all magic mirrors come from fairy god mothers.
I think the enchantress from Beauty and the Beast IS the evil queen from Snow White.
They both pretended to be a old woman and cursed people.
And the reason she cursed the Beast wasn't because he was selfish, it was because she was jealous.
And the evil queen is the one who killed the parents of the Beast and Snow White.
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Snow whites evil step-mother is definitely the beautifullest of all the evil queens. I love the artistry of these original animations.
Fairy Godmothers don't all have to be good.
good point
Their magic isn't always straightforward either
Marie Maleficent is a evil fairy godmother people forget that...
I'll admit this is something I did neglect. I guess if I included fairies then I should of also included the dark fairies. I think I will eventually do an unofficial part 3 that explains the role of dark fairies in the stories. Thanks for watching!
Yeah have you ever heard of maleficent
There is still one very important detail to the story... (which could explain HOW she became evil and misguided even after the help from good fairy (as other mentioned they fairies not "godmother", they just sometimes can "earn" that title)) how she get into possession of one of the wicken nine artifacts? (Or in other words how did part of Vor's ring ended up in her crown...)
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Thank you for the kind words and support! Thanks for watching!
No this is wrong it says in the book (fairest of all) the sisters (lucinda, martha and Ruby) gave it to her before the King died. It is her father's soul in it. The king died in a battle. Snow White wasn't the first jealousy it was verona (her sister). Her father was forced to say she was the fairest of them all.
Interesting but i was always thought she was a sorceress herself. The mirror was an item that was stolen for her and she in the end disgusted by the love her husband had for his daughter and raged by jealousy killed the king to gain full reign and used snow whites youth until the she came of age and the fairest one of all was revealed. That mirror was a prong to her evil doings, hunting down fairest fairs and killing them.
Bingo (except, possibly, for the part about murdering her husband)!
Mark Anthony Reyes agreed, I always thought she was a sorceress but I also always thought she herself had enchanted the mirror..
Have you read the book Fairest? It's like poor unfortunate soul. According to it, 3 witches trapped the evil queen's father's soul, who was a mirror maker, in a mirror and gave it to the queen. They used it to turn the queen into an evil witch.
In my research I did come across those stories and they seem very interesting. I would love to read them one day. Thanks for watching!
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I seriously love this theory!! Plus, I don't know if you watch ONCE UPON A TIME, but interestingly enough there is a Season 3 episode, "Quite a Common Fairy," where Tinker Bell (a fairy) believes she can help Regina (the Evil Queen) by leading her to her happy ending; but because it has to do with love and Regina is afraid of it, Tinker Bell fails and Regina goes on to become the Evil Queen. Sure, the magic mirror isn't in this episode, but...it shows that there is a link between fairies visiting the Evil Queen in her early days...
WHAT IF Maleficent was the Queen's Fairy Godmother?
That sounds like a possibility--Malecificent *was* the sort of habitual yet spontaneous sadist who would corrupt a vulnerable young woman [as opposed to the sort of villain the Queen is shown to be, who is self-serving and has clear-cut motives ].
+Daniel Levinson I know Maleficent wanted revenge for the royal family's neglecting to invite her to the banquet... Dialogue from the three good fairies, however, make it clear that Maleficent does evil just because she can (and clearly gets a kick out of it).
I remember Grumpy mentioning that the Evil Queen is a witch; I think the evil queen made the magic mirrior herself; like if she had the power to make potions, she could cast a spell is inslave someone and trapped someone in the mirror; could be one of her servents whom betrayed her. It could be an ordinary mirror before she cast a spell on one of her servents.
I mean why do you suppose there was a skeleton in the prison cell? Could be one of her servents that have betrayed her. Like I remember the scene where she ordered the Huntsmen to take her out to the forest and then kill her. But when he tries to explain after being shocked to what she said, the queen warned him about the penalty if he fails.
what do you think?:)
I think instead of getting a fairy godmother she was one!
When the mirror finally said Snow White was the fairest of them all after all those yrs of saying otherwise, I have a feeling the mirror had decided to refer to the "inner beauty" of each woman...Snow White was an innocent young girl who bore no hatred to anyone and was kind to all fellows(animal or not) whereas the queen constantly haboured hatred and jealousy in her heart, making her all ugly inside...
Perhaps the mirror changed reference as the queen constantly kept asking the same question over and over all the while expecting (or hoping) for the same answer...
maybe the "fairy godmother" wasn't a fairy godmother, maybe she is a witch godmother. i mean, if there are fairy godmothers it must have witch godmothers too
Im from Portugal so this comment May have some errors
ummm, Have any of you here read Cris Colfer's "Land of stories"? in that book it exlains how the evil queen got the mirror, The mirror is actually the evil queen aka Evly's first true love, the enchantress cursed the magic mirror aka Mira(Evly's first true love) to become a mirror because Evly was the enchantress' slave but she found out that Mira and Evly are sending letters to eachother so she cursed mira inside a mirror and Evly was devastated and her heart turned to stone thus making her the heartless evil queen in the snow white movie.
Y'all should just read "The Land of Stories" it's a great series and explains how all disney princes and princesses are all connected to eachother, even Goldilocks and Red Riding Hood
Have you ever heard of Serena Valentino's Fairest of All? I think it's a great story behind the Evil Queen! Though, I really liked your theory. I'll definitely be watching more of your videos. :)
I'm glad you are sticking around! I have heard of it through my research into this and Ursula. Thanks for watching!
You're welcome! I'm a big Disney freak, so videos like this are super fun for me! :D
This movie is almost 90 years old. It would be more interesting if you talked about the film in its cultural context, rather than applying modern ideologies that simply didn't exist when it was made.
I think the queen made the mirror herself. She proved she could do magic, why wouldn't she create the magic mirror? The queen may have her bitterness from the reason you gave, but the mirror was her creation to keep tabs on everyone so she could stay the most beautiful. Maybe it's because appearance matters and a prettier person would be more likely to be followed instead of the queen and she was power-hungry?
There is always two sides Light magic and Dark Magic couldn't it just be that the Queen dove in Dark Magic and made the mirror herself which would means no fairy godmother was involved. In the TV series it was discovered that the guy in the mirror was in love with the Queen and did her bidding and got put into the mirror.
Laura Catania had a good theory that maybe the queen was a fallen fairy Godmother.
Maybe the evil queen is a fallen fairy Godmother just like Maleficent is a fallen or dark fairy. Perhaps the death of her actual true love turned her dark but she was supposed to be Snow's fairy Godmother. Instead of helping her she became jealous of her Goddaughter because she was going to have the happy ending the queen felt had been stolen from her. So she married the king not for love or power but to make Snow's life miserable. All the while she still thought of her true love. Maybe it was him that used to call her "the fairest in the land" and that is why she is so obsessed with the title. And with the king always pointing out how beautiful and perfect his daughter was it only added salt to the wound. So she made the magic mirror to remind her that she was truly the fairest in the land. That title was all she had left.
Then as you say when Snow's beauty finally surpassed her own she snapped.
Assuming we dismiss the allegations of Fairest of Them All, only a remote chance exists that Grimhilde ever crossed paths with a fairy godmother. Queenie's character, motives, and moda operandi clearly show rancorous self-reliance, especially considering her determination to murder Snow White directly when oblique methods failed. Don't forget that her behavior and interests are narcissistic rather than borderline [the latter being proposed by Fairest of Them All].
Grimhilde is widely understood to be a sorceress, you know, and that concept more than sufficiently explains why she possesses that terrible mirror.
have you read "fairest of them all" it's a great book about the evil Queen and explained how she got the mirror and how the "slave" came to be trapped in the mirror.
her father was a master Smith of glass and mirrors kings came around to buy his works. later in life he was spiteful that he lost his wife due to childbirth so he resented the child and constantly told her how she was so ugly and it affected her so much she truly believed it.
as she grew older she became quite a beautiful woman but was unable to get past her father's words even when the king came to buy a mirror and ended up falling in love she didn't believe it was real.
fast forward to the wedding day she was given that very mirror as a gift and token of the kings love, there she meats her cousins where hold and behold they are witches like her mother and her herself. later on the king dies in war and she banishes the mirror out of pain. later a spell is casted that traps her father's soul into the mirror he is now forced to tell her everyday that she is beautiful.
there is so much to the story but this was just the part of the book about the mirror, you can buy the books at Disneyland that's where I got my copy.
Great theory, very well put together
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While watching this I got a crazy idea, What if the evil queen from snow white was actually both the enchantress from beauty and the beast as well as the fairy god mother from Cinderella.
omg i just relized the dwarves went across a log but so did simba coincidence
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My question is if the evil queen relied on a fairy godmother for magical intervention, why did she turn to witchcraft? (the numerous books and skilled use of magical tools indicates she's been practicing magic for quite some time.)
Well we don't know how long she has been living without our King so her practicing of a witchcraft could have been for many years. Thanks for watching.
hey! interesting theory! according to part 1, you mentioned that the fairy godmothers gave a time requirement for their magic! what do you think was the requirement given to the evil queen? :)
Interesting theory. What if a Fairy Godmother had given the Magic Mirror to Snow White as a gift and then the Queen simply commandeered it away for herself? I have always loved this movie, but never gave the origin of the Magic Mirror much thought. Intriguing.
I'm still confused by the theory.Magic person gives someone a magic mirror.There is another magic mirror in a different movie.CONSPIRACY!!!
Clod finally! I've been looking for this comment, the first minute of this video made no sense.
It's called a "reach" . To call it a theory is to give it unwarranted merit imho
This is a very interesting theory! And as an addition to this I would like to add that this may be an explenation to why snowwhite didn't get any help from any fairy godmother as cinderella or aurora did. Because the fairy godmother looked upon how hard she failed with the evil queen and might have been to scarred of making things worse to help snow.
Mhmm. I think that is definitely possible. It also could be that the fairy godmother knew after making her mistake that the Queen would end up destroying herself so Snow would be better off if she didn't intervene. Thanks for watching!
is there any other people in the village because you dont see them
Good question. I think if they remade this movie today there would be a lot more background characters. Thanks for watching.
es da queen the budget back then was not as much as what Disney has today. As you can see with sleeping beauty, these movies were low budget for at the time they didn't have enough cash flow as Disney was just starting out. adding background characters was an expense they probably decided to cut out
Or maybe they did that on purpose that the evil queen killed all the girls in the village to keep her beauty and the men were only use was to kill so all the villagers left
Exsept some men in the village that are all brothers there were 7 of them who stayed there and mined ( looking for dimands) and finds all the dead bodies of girls that the queen killed and makes a coffin to put them in which would explain why they have a coffin out of no were
+es da queen No, novelizations of the film explicitly state that "all the lovely ladies of the kingdom lived in terror". That wouldn't be possible if the Queen hexed all other women out of existence... Walt Disney told one of his lead animators "We've got to get back to the Witch" after viewing the soup-eating sequence he later had deleted. His words just as clearly explain the villagers' lack of visibility.
I always assumed the diamonds the dwarves get from their mind went back the queen, as she is ruler of the country/ land, and therefor also the mine. I would assume they get to keep a minimum and the rest went as taxes or so on to the crown. Also it is quite possible that either she enchanted the mirror herself, and the voice in it is her king. That he did found her beautiful once alive and when he did his soul was kept in the mirror for him to keep telling her that.
Or that she didn’t get it from a fairy godmother but another witch or wizard, but it’s enchanted to only tell the truth, so once it found Snow White more beautiful it could not lie. Or maybe since the Queen thought so herself that reflected up in the mirror and the mirror confirmed it.
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Wow Snow White is so young!!!!!!
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황진원 ikr i thought she was older
Actually if you read the book “fairest of all” by Serena Valentino Said some very interesting story lines for the evil queen but her real name is Grimhilde, of course her father used to make mirrors 🪞 for a living but he always called her ugly and that lowered her self esteem. Turns out though that she was actually very nice to Snow White since the king died in war and when Grimhilde’s father died he was put inside a magical mirror where he could only speak the truth and was now calling his daughter beautiful which made Grimhilde very happy and she could now ask her father ( the mirror ) anything but one day when Snow White was 14 years old he started saying snow was more beautiful so yada yada yada we all know how that goes.
Oh and she bought the mirror and was having it picked up to the home
Hey Wotso Videos, did you notice that you posted this the same day Film Theorist uploaded their Snow White theory?
I did. I posted mine before him :D It was completely unintentional though. I have never been able to make contact with the Film Theorists before. Pretty cool coincidence though! Thanks for watching!
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This is very similar to the Once Upon a Time's version of the Evil Queen. Of course there the mirror came to be because of a wish, but the rest is very similar.
I was eating an apple while watching this 🍎
That's really funny! Thanks for watching!
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I think we need a live-action about the queen - kind of like Malificent's movie.
I wish there’s to see Queen Grimmhilda’s perspective like we seen Maleficent it’s the Queen Grimmhilda’s turn.
Couldn't the evil queen be a fairy godmother?? She could've been trained to be a fairy godmother but was stripped of her magic and only had the mirror and potion training to remind her of her past.
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maybe she could have found it. Not all magical items are given by fairy godmothers. Think of the magic golden flower in tangled.
1-Your theory makes a lot of sense in my opinion.
2-Snow white is the most boring and annoying princess ever still my opinion hhhhh.
I'm happy you agree! In Snow's defense, she is one of the youngest princesses Disney has created which makes her one of the most innocent and naive princesses. Thanks for watching.
That is true but this was made in 1935 so that kind of princess was the kind of female that was most prevalent back then so her getting saved by the prince was what happened to most women back then they found their man and got married but it's sooooo different now that this story falls flat for many women.
If you ever seen other movies from the 1930's women are annoying on them too.
Fun fact: In the original first edition of the fairytale, the queen was actually Snow's real mother.
Maybe Maleficent was the evil queen's fairy god mother
whoa...thats crazy...!!
Michelle Parikh I could be wrong but the mirror's face is green like Maleficent
Maybe Maleficent became evil because she let the evil queen down... 0.o
My favorite place is a cabin in the woods that my family went to for a couple weeks a few years back. We haven't gone there in years due to money constraints, but I remember how much I loved it there. (I also love Disney World, and went there for the first time in more than a decade back in February. I had a ton of fun with my parents, but all our feet were hurting by the end of our stay there.)
Tamar Adelsohn. I love the cabins in Disney's Fort Wilderness Resort and Campgrounds. When I was little there were no cabins and it was just called Disney's Fort Wilderness Campgrounds. So anyways did you all have new shoes to wear at WDW?
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No, we didn't, because it was straining our finances slightly to get there in the first place but we wanted to go because my mom had very old but not expired passes and we hadn't been there in over a decade. (And we were in the area anyway for family reasons.) We planned everything but new shoes, and besides, we would've needed to have broken the shoes in before they would've been comfortable to walk in.
Tamar Adelsohn I just heard never to wear new shoes while at WDW. We kind of learned it was true back in Sept 2014. Thanks to my Mom and her use of Odor Eaters Spray on my broken in shoes and the night time rain. :)
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I love your Disney theories!!! Wouldn't it be amazing if Disney would start making prequels of all the classic stories focused on the villains. Kind of like a evil origins movies, where we learn about the villians pasts and how they have become evil.
That would be really cool. Even if they could do that in the form of RUclips videos or something. They would be a lot of fun. Thanks for watching.
See what you just did here is what the movie Maleficent failed to do. You managed to show us the backstory of a villain and make us sympathize with them. Where the Maleficent movie failed in making the same argument you just did, was that they tried to justify Maleficent's actions by putting the blame on everyone else. This does not make us sympathize with a character, it just makes us hate all the other characters. Your argument doesn't try to justify the Queen's actions, but instead shows us the motivations behind them. By your argument, the Queen is no less evil, but her evil comes from a very honest and very human place that lets be honest any of us could make the same mistakes. She kind of reminds me of people who dream of becoming celebrities because they think they will have true love and happiness, only to be disappointed when they learn that fame and fortune does not bring those things at all. Well done.
Tbh, the evil queen IS the enchantress...
That would honestly be pretty epic. Thanks for watching!
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Well at least in ouat the evil queen/regina got her happily ever after
Wotso, I encourage you not to use Buzzfeed for anything, it's not a good site.
The main reason I used it in this case was because it seemed like a logical argument for the time period since I wasn't really sure. Thanks for watching!
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Fair enough.
I think the reason the Evil Queen (actually named Grimhilde in the Disney version) is driven to treat Snow White cruelly and eventually attempt her murder is her fear of losing more than her looks. At that time, men were preferred to rule over a female heir. As the King’s only child, Snow’s future son, a male heir, would rule, and the Queen was likely acting as a sort of regent until Snow married. A sure way to guarantee that would never happen was to hide her away as a servant, possibly marring her looks and shortening her life through hard labor. As she grew more attractive and approached marrying age (then about 13/14), she became a serious threat. Once she attracted the Prince’s attention, the Queen grew desperate and had to act fast. Because she treated her cruelly, once married and free of her control, Snow would likely have her banished or locked away. She does in the Disney film, but in the Grimm version, the new royal couple has her punished for her shenanigans (and multiple murder attempts) by forcing her to dance in red hot shoes until she burns alive, so maybe her fears weren’t completely unfounded. By the way, Snow White was the actually the first Disney Queen. Upon the death of the disguised stepmother, Snow became queen by birthright of her own kingdom before ever marrying the Prince. I do like the idea of the fairy godmother giving the Queen the mirror. Like the theory that the Evil Queen survived the fall by landing near the healing flower and became Gothel, trying to stave off the old age her own magic created and living for centuries (Rapunzel seems to takes place centuries later in the same area...maybe the tower is all that’s left of the original castle), I wonder if all the fairy godmothers are connected. Like maybe the Blue Fairy is also the Enchantress who changed the Beast and gave him the mirror, also changing Pinocchio, maybe even the one that gave the magic mirror to the Queen...maybe the Beasts mirror is a piece of the Queen’s mirror? Maybe without the magic flower, the fairy godmother also aged and became Cinderella’s fairy godmother, getting forgetful as she aged. Or maybe she aged as people stopped believing in magic.
When you said 1945; the video said 1545.
I had messed up the date when I recorded my script. The real date is 1545. Thanks for watching!
Wotso Videos, I think the song is recorded in 1935, because the movie came out in 37.
In Serena Valentino's book "Fairest of All", It says that the 3 sisters, the king's cousins, gave her the mirror as a wedding gift. Queen Grimhilde was verbally/emotionally abused by her father, who blamed the Queen for her mother's death. Her father states that the Queen's mother was his true love, so when she died, he felt his life was over. He hated Queen Grimhilde because she reminded him so much of his wife. The voice in the mirror was her father, and he was the reason she was so obsessed with her looks and insecurities. It's said that the 3 odd sisters had spelled or cursed the mirror. After the king's death, the Queen went insane with the mirror, staying in her room all day, barely seeing Snow. I personally like that version better because it is so much like reality, where parents are the reason their kids think they're never good enough. I feel that way because of my mom.
Regina Mills is the best EvilQueen 💐💐✋
She's pretty awesome. My favorite character in Once Upon A Time though has to be Rumple. Thanks for watching!
Even when I go back to watch this Disney Version, or Play Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep, I still refer to her as Regina. She is the one and only Evil Queen now.
What if the Queen was in fact Snow White's Fairy Godmother? In your previous video, you mentioned how they can sometimes act in unclear and convoluted ways to give their subjects their happy ending. What if the Queen wanted to help her out of her loneliness, and what if the "apple" was just another magical object gifted by the Godmother?
If godmothers are capable of handing out magic mirrors, then it must mean they have similarly functioning magic mirrors of their own. The Queen did use hers to spy on Snow.
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I read a book, where the evil queen's mirror is her long lost love, who had gotten trapped by a evil fairy. And it was impossible for a person to become free once trapped in the mirror. But the Evil queen (Evie) didn't believe that and she thought that if she became queen she would have excess to better sorceress. So she placed a love spell on the king making him fall in love with her. But as the queen grew older she couldn't stand the pain in her heart so she ripped her own heart out and froze it. leaving her to not care about anything except her own beauty
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Estella Tay 1 I agree 2 so have I
reminds me of the quote i saw on faecebook that went something like this: "Evil queens are princesses who were never saved"
Love all your videos! Just a random thought. As you were explaining that the evil queen might have had a fairy god mother herself - what if that fairy god mother was an evil one which explains the evil queens evilness? The one character that comes to mind would be maleficent as she is also considered a fairy but is evil. Also sleeping beauty's story take place between the 1400's and 1500's and Snow White is said to take place between the 1500's and 1550's so they're not very far apart in in time! Just a thought!
Her real name is Regina..first of all it's her servant whom she love before Snow-white's Farther.She caught him up and put him in the mirror.She even has a daughter named Evie
I read a book about Snow White and the Seven Dwarves from the Evil Queen's point of view. In summary, she loved Snow until the King's sisters gave her a mirror that had her father inside it, calling her beautiful. Soon her maid out does her, and the Queen sends her away. Then Snow, out does her, and the Queen acts more and more irritable around her. Soon, she uses a potion to disguises herself, and poisons Snow. After realizing that the potion does not have a cure, she decides to let the Dwarves kill her.
Snow White never received help from a Fairy Godmother because she never hit rock bottom in her unhappiness. Despite the fact that she lost her parents at such a young age, she would often read her late mother's diary and discover that true is happiness comes from both the kindness you give to others and the care you receive in return. Therefore she believed that as long as you're kind to everyone around you, you will find inner happiness. Like she said in song form : "Remember you're the one who can fill the world with sunshine".
The movie earned more points for me when it was featured in _Gremlins_. The ones who weren't actually eating the tape got one of the film reels working and the mining scene popped up. The whole theater of Gremlins started singing and laughing hysterically. XD
Or, maybe the dwarves live together like that because it was their temporary mining home, saving up until it was time to go their separate ways. It's a very common practice among mining communities, especially among family, which I suspect the dwarves were.
Wow really cool though! I never knew that. Really good though process. Thanks for watching!