How to Make an Inexpensive Vertical Wind Turbine - Part 1

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024

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  • @GreenPowerFarm
    @GreenPowerFarm 16 лет назад +2

    Good job!!!I am in the process of building something similar. I have been stuck on the bearing part for awhile,, but thanks to you I have a great bearing plan now!! Thank you sir!!!!

  • @AerobineVAWT
    @AerobineVAWT 16 лет назад

    There is so much power in the wind! Great work...thanks for sharing!

  • @embeddedprogrammer6276
    @embeddedprogrammer6276  15 лет назад

    I am figuring this out now. I don't have the data yet but am putting a hall effect sensor on the turbine to measure the average rpm, and just bought a usb connected weather station to cross correlate wind speed, electrical output and rpm. The rpm of the motor needs to be about 300 rpm to get 14 Volts.

  • @embeddedprogrammer6276
    @embeddedprogrammer6276  16 лет назад

    The airspace between the barrels is part of the Savonius design and helps efficiency. A tower is on my list of things to do. I am designing a tower which will allow the turbine to be raised and lowered with a pulley.

  • @Mladen365
    @Mladen365 16 лет назад

    without load it works great but when you connect generator its other story,but its a great idea,great job man

  • @CPAsheldon
    @CPAsheldon 15 лет назад

    Thanks for posting this video that should inspire more to try this way to save on energy costs!

  • @yopaulyp
    @yopaulyp 14 лет назад

    what a simple, elegant design. Great video!

  • @wackyrice1
    @wackyrice1 14 лет назад

    Here's another idea; cut slits from top to bottom all around the barrel, heat the plastic and bend the strips to creat vertical fins all around the barrel. center the axis, and see if you can make a Maglev wind turbine.Just a thought.

  • @embeddedprogrammer6276
    @embeddedprogrammer6276  16 лет назад

    It works fine in large winds and does not shake the deck at this point (I don't have a generator on it yet).

  • @gamesbok
    @gamesbok 8 лет назад +9

    The bearings are exposed, and will not last in dusty conditions. grease for the bearings, and a simple foam rubber seal, might have dramatic increase in bearing life.

    • @MarkH10
      @MarkH10 7 лет назад

      gamesbok the seal will also cut some noise.

  • @lefthendrix
    @lefthendrix 12 лет назад

    love everything about it except the bearings now all you have to do is a upgrade the bearings and attach your generator to it keep up the good work

  • @thomaswoody5786
    @thomaswoody5786 9 лет назад

    Have you tried blocking the center where the two halves intersect? I believe that doing so will get you better outputs because if it is open it essentially allows wind to go completely through and be counter productive by causing inertia to fights.. So blocking it should give you more torque.

  • @embeddedprogrammer6276
    @embeddedprogrammer6276  16 лет назад

    Part of the reason I like the 3" is because the large plastic pipe fittings also support the barrels so I don't need metal struts to support the barrels. 2" would be lighter and faster however. I may try sharpening the edges after I have my sensors on the turbine so I can measure if it has any effect. I think it would be a marginal improvement if any.

  • @ahuertas69
    @ahuertas69 13 лет назад

    I was actually a lil skeptical at first...I didn't know where you were going with this crazy contraption! But I actually worked! Frikkin sweet! A lil noisy though, but better than hearing the sound of my screams every time I see my electric bill! Ha ha ha ha!!

  • @afghanmarine1983
    @afghanmarine1983 13 лет назад

    @norvman I agree, I live in the high desert of SoCal...We get lots of hot dry wind mixed with sand...not a good combo for open bearing sytems.

  • @bhudi
    @bhudi 15 лет назад

    Truely a thing of beauty!

  • @NWinnVR
    @NWinnVR 12 лет назад

    Get some NSK spherical roller bearings. Really any sealed bearing would work but spherical's can take anything and they are solid.
    @landslave I doubt they used stainless steel and it's completely open so yes. (they will get loud)

  • @netzarn
    @netzarn 16 лет назад

    I really like your design. Right now, the wind is blowing lumber around my yard--I live in a mountain pass at about 6800 ft. elevation. I'm afraid that a regular tower might get blown apart. Do you think your design would stand high winds (like 60mph+ gusts).
    Do you think your design would work with a pulley&belt system or a bicycle hub. I don't have a CNC cutter. Thanks for sharing the work you've put into this.

  • @embeddedprogrammer6276
    @embeddedprogrammer6276  16 лет назад

    Check out part 2 for the electrical generation method. I am making a unit with sealed bearings now and it will be running in late August when I return.

  • @weatherphobia
    @weatherphobia 5 лет назад

    WHICH Is more efficient or produces more or total energy in 24 hours? Vertical or Horizontal Wind Configuration????
    I love this design! So which one??

    • @embeddedprogrammer6276
      @embeddedprogrammer6276  5 лет назад

      Horizontal is more efficient but also less survivable in gale force winds.

  • @chisholmranch1
    @chisholmranch1 9 лет назад +5

    You need to raise the barrels up higher and redesign the barrels out wider. The way you have it at the moment, it will not spin a generator. Your best wind is 50' to 75' up above the surface of the ground and higher. The span should be at least 5' from center. You have a wrong formula for a wind generator. But if you paint a rainbow on it , it will be a very nice lawn ornament.

  • @carmatic
    @carmatic 13 лет назад

    also one more question
    is the reason that you use the wooden blocks because you couldnt find closet flanges which has holes which line up with the lazy susans?

  • @S3iF3
    @S3iF3 13 лет назад

    great ! and what does it do ? instead of being loud :/

  • @embeddedprogrammer6276
    @embeddedprogrammer6276  16 лет назад

    Enough to charge a 12v battery bank right now. I am going to try to get more power soon by using several units together.

  • @WindPowerKits
    @WindPowerKits 14 лет назад

    cool recycling idea

  • @embeddedprogrammer6276
    @embeddedprogrammer6276  14 лет назад

    @howardstern5 No, thats a rotozip and uses a small endmill that looks like a drill bit.

  • @deadendkid1968
    @deadendkid1968 9 лет назад

    Id add that if you used closed berrings...it would be quiet and last longer than the lazy susans...use bushings to get down to the size you need a grease them up good...love the design otherwise and Im reccomending it to a friend...thanks...

  • @jota3146
    @jota3146 16 лет назад

    good idea but, what about the energy produced?
    how could you transform the cinetic wind energy to electrical energy....

  • @akbrin
    @akbrin 16 лет назад

    sir this things can be really noisy, & the neighbours wont like that, is there any other way u can recomment me/us to make one, Sir i am trying hard to find the best alternative energy for our homes if u can help thanx

  • @ava7awa
    @ava7awa 12 лет назад

    This is great. How do you connect, so it will power something? Thankyou.

  • @SmallWindTurbines
    @SmallWindTurbines 14 лет назад

    Cool video. It's a neat recycling idea. Will the PVC hold up in a heavy wind?

  • @allanegleston13
    @allanegleston13 10 лет назад

    could this be made out of 5 gallon buckets ? thanks in advance .

  • @chrisboyce4547
    @chrisboyce4547 12 лет назад

    Build a magnetic bearing for this compressing 2 sets of north to north magnets together. That is all ;)

  • @embeddedprogrammer6276
    @embeddedprogrammer6276  15 лет назад

    Yes, click on the link at the end of the video and it should take you to part two where we generate electricity.

  • @landslave
    @landslave 12 лет назад

    Will the ball bearings rust???

  • @kokisthegangsta
    @kokisthegangsta 8 лет назад

    how effective is this :)? compare to normal half moon water pipe turbines ? and should nt it be more effektvie to install the barrels more widely for more wind capturing the barrels?

  • @rjpaul9077
    @rjpaul9077 6 лет назад

    Good point Greg i like the tech i will buy one vs Jerry rig one
    Respectively
    Ron

  • @haansgruber
    @haansgruber 14 лет назад

    That seems to be the trend
    keep up the good work
    peace :)

  • @embeddedprogrammer6276
    @embeddedprogrammer6276  15 лет назад

    Yes, but then I would need two generators or a chain or belt to link the two together. I may do this at some point but now I am building a taller turbine that utilizes 6 barrels.

  • @mrbhave
    @mrbhave 11 лет назад

    Have you tried magnetic levitation using opposing polarity magnets?

  • @Bubblytubebob
    @Bubblytubebob 10 лет назад

    Now if you attach a bicycle wheel on the top of the barrels and then mount one of those old bicycle generators that press against the side wall of the tire, you might be able to light up a six volt flashlight bulb. That's if you got a good wind blowing. But if you use LED lights instead of incandescent ,you could more than quadruple your light output. That's not enough power for me to trade off the sound of a freight train on my deck all night long. I would put the 300 bucks towards a nice 130Volt 1.5Kw horizontal turbine with a MPPT charge controller.Put the turbine on a 30 ft pole 150 ft from the house because you have the perfect location for it and you'll never hear it. I'm not fussy about anything weighing 250 lbs spinning where people and children and pets are walking around.That's an accident waiting to happen.

  • @josephdupont
    @josephdupont 5 лет назад

    Did you lubricate the ball bearings on this

  • @redonthehd
    @redonthehd 12 лет назад

    looks good but maybe too noisy for close to a house application.

  • @embeddedprogrammer6276
    @embeddedprogrammer6276  15 лет назад

    Thanks for your comment.

  • @embeddedprogrammer6276
    @embeddedprogrammer6276  16 лет назад

    I said Sawzall(which is a Milwaukee type of reciprocating saw).

  • @embeddedprogrammer6276
    @embeddedprogrammer6276  15 лет назад

    I tried a belt and pulleys and had problems fabricating the pulleys in the size I needed.

  • @NZherewecome
    @NZherewecome 10 лет назад

    they add a nice feature to the deck i thought, albeit colour change would be nice.

  • @embeddedprogrammer6276
    @embeddedprogrammer6276  15 лет назад

    Guys, if you check GREENPOWERSCIENCE on youtube, he has done some work with magnetic bearings albeit with some mechanical constrains (allthread). I think this is possible to do even if it isn't perfectly stable in equilibrium (Earnshaw's Theorem) as we only care about what is happening when the device is rotating. Also, lets be nice to each other here.

  • @hudemaj
    @hudemaj 14 лет назад

    fantastic sports fans! i love it!

  • @embeddedprogrammer6276
    @embeddedprogrammer6276  14 лет назад

    @zephan12 Yep, I am using a Kodak still camera to make these videos. It doesn't have an external microphone jack.

  • @rikardplatzer4220
    @rikardplatzer4220 11 лет назад

    How much did those bearings cost?

  • @bekeleyohnnes675
    @bekeleyohnnes675 9 лет назад

    this is most interesting thing

  • @MarioGudec
    @MarioGudec 9 лет назад

    Wind trubine 2015:
    ruclips.net/video/Wys41ESJEIA/видео.html

  • @blurybury
    @blurybury 12 лет назад

    they sounded nearly dry didnt they. he needs sealed bearings

  • @scottlarsen466
    @scottlarsen466 6 лет назад

    Let's calculate how much energy this might produce. Assume it is .86 m x .86 meter. If the wind is 20 mph (8.9 m/s) and a 30% VAT efficiency=1/2EpAV^3=1/2 x .3 x 1.22 (.86 x .86) x 1.22 x 8.9^3 = 95 watts at most.

    • @embeddedprogrammer6276
      @embeddedprogrammer6276  6 лет назад

      What is VAT efficiency? I am setting up an arduino to measure current and voltage so will soon be able to record the power generated and correlate with an anemometer.

    • @scottlarsen466
      @scottlarsen466 6 лет назад

      VAT efficiency is simply the efficiency of a "Vertical Axis Turbine" (VAT) to turn the kinetic energy of the wind into electrical energy. The power ouptut will be proportional to the square of the velocity of the fluid..in this case air. In the case of Turbine the re. (a VAT) the efficiencies are very poor since the blade has to "fight its way upstream" when coming around. 30% is generous. The 55 gallon drum design is probably much less.

    • @embeddedprogrammer6276
      @embeddedprogrammer6276  6 лет назад

      OK

  • @embeddedprogrammer6276
    @embeddedprogrammer6276  15 лет назад

    Check out my other videos where I use magnetic levitation. (using neodymium magnets)

  • @olgabhushan
    @olgabhushan 7 лет назад

    And it can generate 5 watt at 12 volts.

  • @embeddedprogrammer6276
    @embeddedprogrammer6276  14 лет назад

    @antwasere See part 2 for electricity.

  • @Arsopu
    @Arsopu 5 лет назад +3

    Wind powered noise machine! Brilliant!

    • @embeddedprogrammer6276
      @embeddedprogrammer6276  5 лет назад

      Thanks. lol

    • @Arsopu
      @Arsopu 5 лет назад

      No, I really like the idea.
      It is good, I've been thinking of something similar now that I'm on he coast and have a constant breeze just to power the lights.
      👌

  • @usnva5638
    @usnva5638 11 лет назад +7

    Wow! Those ball bearings were a serious co-efficiency to the overall design and purpose. It was self evident from the video, but I'm glad you got rid of 'em. The name of the game, especially in smaller wind turbines, is having the least amount of overall drag and friction possible.

  • @pinwizz69
    @pinwizz69 15 лет назад +1

    As a former USCG aircraft machinest mate , I think I,m gonna have ta do this but I,ll use tru bearin races and bearings rated for high spead w synthoil feed and stainless steel pipe for the shaft as well as some outher mods. Overall its a great idea and I gotta give the guy a salute for good ol, american inovation. We need more people like him to ween us from corperate oil dependacy ! Lets do it America and the Wourld ! Imagination can set you FREE ! No more oil dependance !

  • @danielyanez7546
    @danielyanez7546 2 года назад +2

    HERMOSO ENERGIA GRATIS SUUPER

  • @wesbaumguardner8829
    @wesbaumguardner8829 4 года назад +2

    You can also leave the rain barrel whole and cut vertical slits in the barrels and then use 2x4's to pop the edge out and then heat the plastic with a heat gun, leaving the 2x4's in place until the plastic cools down. Do this all around the rain barrel the same direction so that it makes blades. Then you can mount the barrel through the center. This will be more balanced and have less moment/torque, but will work great for things like pumping water.

  • @consumersaide
    @consumersaide 10 лет назад +15

    Just a thot from us all.... don't believe those ' lazy-susans' are going to last long...let alone the noise they put out.
    that weather will chew those bearings up. Not designed for what you intended my friend. For, as long as, they'll
    last, you might try spraying some teflon or some equivalent type of lubricant to keep the bearings quieter an operational
    for as long as, their going to last. The PVC components may last a bit longer. Watch for high winds & see how it performs
    then. (?) Keep on try'n.

  • @luapynneb3069
    @luapynneb3069 9 лет назад +2

    I bags the bedroom furthest away from these mothers, Lasy-Susans are not for continuous spinning use, there just a very cheep way to help rotate a heavy load, i used some cone hub bearings, this also will allow the shaft to go through and connect to the motor. I salvaged the hubs from front end of a car £20 and you can even make use of the disc-brake & caliper that is fixed to the hub as a brake.

  • @jacosoler
    @jacosoler 15 лет назад +2

    Too many times I have thought of doing something of the sorts and everything else seems to be a greater priority. Your having actually gone out and done this is an inspiration to be should be an inspiration to all. No matter how simple an invention maybe if it gets built and impacts even one life, it is still greater than an unrealized invention no matter how fantastic...

  • @spikey2740
    @spikey2740 7 лет назад +1

    I would be leery of a lazy susan lasting for the extended usage of that application. The loads are okay, but extended usage at 20+ RPM could become a problem.
    How well did they last? And if you changed them to another type of bearing, what kind?

  • @embeddedprogrammer6276
    @embeddedprogrammer6276  16 лет назад

    The PVC barrels each weight 22 lbs so the entire system is around 50 lbs. Is that heavy? I have seen Savonius systems with steel barrels which way more than twice the weight of the PVC barrels. Also, one of my design goals was to use as much recycled material as possible in the turbine. I am certainly open to new ideas but also want to keep this design fairly inexpensive. I am making a pipe-tower to raise this up 20 feet also to generate more power.

  • @embeddedprogrammer6276
    @embeddedprogrammer6276  15 лет назад

    Or the scotch tape store at the mall (SNL). Actually google Bronstein Container (the place I get all my barrels) and you will see a huge, growing company which deals only in barrels and barrel handling equipment. They have new and recycled barrels (plastic and steel) up to 1000 gallon tanks.

  • @embeddedprogrammer6276
    @embeddedprogrammer6276  15 лет назад

    Are you talking about putting insulation on the inside of the drums? If so what form of insulation? I think that with the new bearings I am using it will be nearly silent anyways.

  • @embeddedprogrammer6276
    @embeddedprogrammer6276  15 лет назад

    How would you measure torque. I'm not sure how much torque it generates. Savonius turbines in general produce a lot of torque and were originally used to run pumps.

  • @embeddedprogrammer6276
    @embeddedprogrammer6276  16 лет назад

    It's not too noisy and the deck its attached to is over-engineered. I am building a small tower to be able raise it up a bit and hold more than one turbine.

  • @m50halifax5
    @m50halifax5 10 лет назад

    if it was me i would grease them bearings so they don't make any noise as possible , i think i might give this a try but will use 5 gal buckets first

  • @embeddedprogrammer6276
    @embeddedprogrammer6276  14 лет назад

    You would probably want to use flange bearings. The lazy susan bearings are not designed to work on their sides like you would need for a water wheel.

  • @embeddedprogrammer6276
    @embeddedprogrammer6276  16 лет назад

    Its a little loud but I don't mind it. I am charging a large 12v marine battery now and running 12v lighting and a 12v LCD TV. Thanks for your comment.

  • @embeddedprogrammer6276
    @embeddedprogrammer6276  16 лет назад

    Any Home Depot or Lowes. Less than $80. Mine is a black and decker firestorm which is a copy of the original Milwaukee Sawzall Reciprocating Saw.

  • @SolarInstaller7
    @SolarInstaller7 14 лет назад

    nice recycling use of plastic drums. be careful that many of these type drums are used to store very dangerous chemicals of all kinds, acid, etc.

  • @embeddedprogrammer6276
    @embeddedprogrammer6276  15 лет назад

    No because it would either make it heavier or block the wind. I am working on a much quieter version of this now which uses sealed bearings.

  • @philipreynolds4909
    @philipreynolds4909 9 лет назад

    I'm guessing that it didn't take you long to learn why they put brakes on wind mills.

  • @locouk
    @locouk 16 лет назад

    When that thing gets going and it's blowing a whoolie outside, it's gonna rumble the house down... Else it's gonna sound like it!

  • @Dutch2236
    @Dutch2236 9 лет назад +2

    It's a Savonius Rotor. You can make one with three 55 gal. drums. Cut off the tops and bottoms (circles), then you have 3 tubes. Cut the tubes downward 180 degrees apart and you have 3 sets of U-shaped wind "buckets." Select a strong pipe for an axle. Cut circles the diameter of the axle out of the tops and bottoms.With the tops and bottoms sandwiched between, weld the U shapes to the axle 120 degrees apart to create S shapes. Sounds confusing right?. Look up Savonius Rotor. Anyway, it's cheap but you have to be able to cut and weld. New idea? No, I saw it first in the "Mother Earth News" in the "70,s. Anyway, it's not very efficient in a light breeze. No DIY 'er has the ability to create a proper rotor that is. Yes it will spin but unless you live on the side of a mountain it will bog down quickly under a load.

    • @jerryfrugoli3339
      @jerryfrugoli3339 6 лет назад

      Dutch2236 well said... thanks for your comment... I’m sure it will help many folks new to this effort....

  • @embeddedprogrammer6276
    @embeddedprogrammer6276  15 лет назад

    Thats a good idea. I'm not sure how to do it but it would eliminate the expensive battery and generator if it worked.

  • @embeddedprogrammer6276
    @embeddedprogrammer6276  15 лет назад +1

    I am moving to different bearing types. Check out my magnetic levitation video to see where we are headed.

  • @umlax45
    @umlax45 14 лет назад

    @pinkyzoey i love all the comments from people who probably couldnt make this if they were inside a Home Cheapo with a set of blueprints and unlimited money. I think this is great idea and it is a great post for people to use and elaborate on if they choose to, good work.

  • @HannesHille
    @HannesHille 16 лет назад

    i think it does, but the drag still adds up...
    will it work better if the barrel halves overlap less, therefore catching more wind? it probably will result in more force but will only be noticable in stronger winds...

  • @embeddedprogrammer6276
    @embeddedprogrammer6276  15 лет назад

    Cage is a good idea. Axle has already withstood gale force winds in excess of 70mph without any problems.

  • @embeddedprogrammer6276
    @embeddedprogrammer6276  16 лет назад

    It is fairly quiet unless we have 30 knot winds and then it gets quite loud with the lazy susan bearings.

  • @embeddedprogrammer6276
    @embeddedprogrammer6276  14 лет назад

    @tinidor2008 I'm not sure about that but you may be right. It will also be harder to start up though.

  • @johnnecron666
    @johnnecron666 15 лет назад

    what is your average rpms on your wind genarator.?
    what is the rpms needed to get 12.5 volt min from your alternator? this will deternine your gear ratio for your gear teeth

  • @pinkyzoey
    @pinkyzoey 14 лет назад

    It would probably go faster if you used better bearings. It's not a wind turbine if it doesn't generate electricity, it's just a lawn ornament.

  • @concrete230
    @concrete230 11 лет назад

    i notice the negative comment from goose. this isnt the first time i have seen comments like this. i wonder if ppl are getting paid from the energy companies to come on here and spout negative comments. wouldnt it just be easier to move on. then to try to slam someones time and effort in this or any videos. maybe even have constructive comments that could assist this guy in producing something better.
    just saying.

  • @518schenectady
    @518schenectady 14 лет назад

    would it be possible to make or design a window mounted mini or micro wind turbine unit. have the wind turbine producing a small amount of heat to help keep your house warmer in the winter. maybe have the wind turbine connected directly to a heat dump load. people that live in cold climates would most likely buy a lot of them. people buy air conditoners to keep cool this would be a green easy way for people to help heat homes. if anyone can make something like this please mail me

  • @visamedic
    @visamedic 14 лет назад

    i'm not a sceptic . i love this kind of stuff . in fact im working on a portable noiseless/fuelless generator with solar . everything i've done has been small scale mostly to power mt travel trailer off grid . my question is how feasable would it be to run a small shop with something like this ? obviously you'd need a battery array w/an inverter . would you be able to trust a regular dc inverter to do the task ? maybe a number of them ?

  • @The.Wild.Montanan
    @The.Wild.Montanan 15 лет назад

    HEy!! this is an amazing idea by using big plastic drums as wind turbines. i have been wundern what to do with the endless supply of my barrels lol. a freind and i made one today out of one barel that sits sideways and mounts between two trees to provide power to our homemade cabin in the woods and is powered by a semi alternator and 4 car batteries:) and one question...where did you get the lazy susan bearings and PVC fittings//

  • @embeddedprogrammer6276
    @embeddedprogrammer6276  15 лет назад

    If you keep the bearings lubricated, years. System has been running for over a year now.

  • @DC.
    @DC. 15 лет назад

    Hi i use a lazy suzan as a swivvle for my wind turbine the noise is the balls going around but i only us them for the swivvle! good luck

  • @embeddedprogrammer6276
    @embeddedprogrammer6276  16 лет назад

    Thanks. Mine has survived winds of over 50 mph and snow/ice/rain without problems. I have spoken to someone who has used bicycle hubs with chains for 25 years (with HAWTS) and swears by them, so I think that would be a viable way to go. Please let us know how your system goes and please post a video response.

  • @embeddedprogrammer6276
    @embeddedprogrammer6276  15 лет назад +1

    did you see part two? I am now generating electricity with this and soon will be releasing part 3 (improved power output).

  • @blurybury
    @blurybury 12 лет назад

    rust noise and where is the load? no load = easy to spin in low wind. with a load and then when them bearings get rusty you will have a challenge.
    HOWEVER a nice way to recycle the drums. :)
    id like to c this with a load and using sealed bearings. they will be quiet and stand up to the weather and not rust.

  • @frank2398
    @frank2398 12 лет назад

    I think its a great video. But it had to eat it's self within hours or days. With that bearing setup and the lack of some sort of oil injection system to maintain bearing lubrication, plus the fact its a Lazy Susan meant to be spun slowly and in-frequently with just low loading, it would destroy itself.