Wish I would have found your channel before I did. Could have saved me a lot of money. I just went with a full custom build. Wonder what my score would be. Haha. Keep up the great content!
You didn’t mention crank length at all, do you take into account when computing score? I’d say longer cranks are good for park and dirt, and shorter cranks for street maybe. The WTP reason has super short 160mm cranks
I wanted the Letum until the weight was mentioned. If it was about 3 pounds lighter I would buy it. Digging the Cult Devotion though I'll probably end up coppin that bike, idk, I'm still analyzing the options out there. Couple more paychecks I'll be ordering a bike so I have plenty time to decide. I appreciate you making videos like these to educate people like myself who have no clue what bikes are good. Never spent more than 100 on a bike before and they always fall apart so this will HOPEFULLY be my first good quality bmx bike, I just want to make sure I'm making the right choice. Every bike I've had either taco'd the rim or stripped the bars... Anyway I'd like to hear from some people who own or have owned the Cult Devotion, is It a solid bike that will last a year or better of hard riding before having to replace anything? Or should I just suck it up and get the Subrosa Letum hahaha. Don't really want a 30 pound bike but also don't want a POS.
Interesting that you contradicted your own scoring system on the Reason vs Ex. Think they are both great, but the Reson takes the win. Woud love to see a 2023 update on this. Think the Reason's oil slick matte crank arms, sproket, included pegs, and hub guards is fairly priced. Looking for tech and park the Reason's slighttly steeper head angle and slightly shorter chain stays provide a better geometry. Quite a few more pluses for the Reason. Having owned several Sunday's (which are great bikes) can honestly say riding the Reason for regular street and park riding takes the win and saves you some $ in the long run. Reason should have moved forward, as the scoring indicated. Also these bike prices have skyrocketed for 2023. Just order my new Reason, wish it were still at this price.
With the Sunday ex vs the wtp reason, you say the Sunday is better because of the price being cheaper but then say you can just buy hub guards and pegs, if the hub guards are 20$ a piece then you’re spending 40$, plus how ever much a pair of pegs are. Wouldn’t you just be better getting the wtp reason? Plus getting another 2 hub guards ?
Aye homie I just ordered a Flybikes Orion with a LHD in gloss warm grey with no brakes for$494.10 total. It has a 21” top tube which I’m a little worried about because I’m 5’8” and 43 years old. But I’ve been around Bmx since I was a kid racing in California. Do you think this bike will be good for me? I’m a dirt guy all the way.
Wat do I do if market over saturated by people spending stimulus check on bikes and covid cause less production and majority of bikes are out of stock even parts
@@iStiflock change the stock grips buy new ones like; odsy broc raiford, primo cali, s&m hoder grips, cult dak grips, or billy perry grips. don't get odi those are ugly asf. maybe change the stock pedals too get some nice ones like: animal rat traps, odsy twisted pc pros, cult dak pedals, merritt p1s, eclat centric.
The wethepeople “single wall” rim a salt valon that is amazingly designed. you should look at a pic where it is cut so it isn’t really standard single wall. more like 1.5
I have a 2020 Reason. I rode those rims for like 3 months and got some Gsport Ribcage wheels. Gave them to my cousin and he’s still riding them a year later with no problems.
@@JoseGarcia-ih2uh I know the struggle. Idk if they're even gonna make more at this point. I hope you do finds something tho. I think I just really lucky with the money and the bike times out perfect
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You are the greatest bmx salesman on the planet and they need to give you a raise from all brands 🖖
Broooo the brands won't even work with me 🥲 But i'm glad you say that because maybe in the future I can work with them
I love this channel! I have always had trouble comparing bikes. But I feel ten times smarter about bikes after listening to this dude!
Glad you like them!
Enjoy watchin your channel, thank you for the good information🤘🏻
Wish I would have found your channel before I did. Could have saved me a lot of money. I just went with a full custom build. Wonder what my score would be. Haha. Keep up the great content!
How much did you spend on a custom?
I bought the 2021 EX Erik Elstran Signature because it was the only bike you Recommended that were available and sold at the MSRP
Is he talking about 2022 version or 2021 version of the subrosa letum?
I just looked for the subrosa letum and it said 633$ not 529$ so can u suggest a website to get the bike from
What your pick on 18 in bike haven’t seen a video
You didn’t mention crank length at all, do you take into account when computing score? I’d say longer cranks are good for park and dirt, and shorter cranks for street maybe. The WTP reason has super short 160mm cranks
I wanted the Letum until the weight was mentioned. If it was about 3 pounds lighter I would buy it. Digging the Cult Devotion though I'll probably end up coppin that bike, idk, I'm still analyzing the options out there. Couple more paychecks I'll be ordering a bike so I have plenty time to decide. I appreciate you making videos like these to educate people like myself who have no clue what bikes are good. Never spent more than 100 on a bike before and they always fall apart so this will HOPEFULLY be my first good quality bmx bike, I just want to make sure I'm making the right choice. Every bike I've had either taco'd the rim or stripped the bars...
Anyway I'd like to hear from some people who own or have owned the Cult Devotion, is It a solid bike that will last a year or better of hard riding before having to replace anything? Or should I just suck it up and get the Subrosa Letum hahaha. Don't really want a 30 pound bike but also don't want a POS.
But then again the devotion doesn’t have all the add ons
Interesting that you contradicted your own scoring system on the Reason vs Ex. Think they are both great, but the Reson takes the win. Woud love to see a 2023 update on this. Think the Reason's oil slick matte crank arms, sproket, included pegs, and hub guards is fairly priced. Looking for tech and park the Reason's slighttly steeper head angle and slightly shorter chain stays provide a better geometry. Quite a few more pluses for the Reason. Having owned several Sunday's (which are great bikes) can honestly say riding the Reason for regular street and park riding takes the win and saves you some $ in the long run. Reason should have moved forward, as the scoring indicated. Also these bike prices have skyrocketed for 2023. Just order my new Reason, wish it were still at this price.
I want the Sunday ex bike so bad do you know we're I can get one I live on the east coast of the usa
Bmx source and skatepro
Surprised the Switch wasn't included given the crazy good price to quality ratio and such 🤔
But how can I buy a letum if it’s out of stock everywhere :(
Its available on source bmx right now
Camera quality lookin 🔥🔥🔥
With the Sunday ex vs the wtp reason, you say the Sunday is better because of the price being cheaper but then say you can just buy hub guards and pegs, if the hub guards are 20$ a piece then you’re spending 40$, plus how ever much a pair of pegs are. Wouldn’t you just be better getting the wtp reason? Plus getting another 2 hub guards ?
Aye homie I just ordered a Flybikes Orion with a LHD in gloss warm grey with no brakes for$494.10 total. It has a 21” top tube which I’m a little worried about because I’m 5’8” and 43 years old. But I’ve been around Bmx since I was a kid racing in California. Do you think this bike will be good for me? I’m a dirt guy all the way.
What are you recommending for dirt in the $500-600 range?
I want to hear you do a review on the fit Series 22
Why ate sealed /unsealed bearings not a concern?
All the bikes here have sealed everything
Bro, when you compared the EX to the Reason you stated a 24.9 lbs weight for the Ex and at the end the board reads 27.5 lbs. Which one is it?
Is it true new model 2022 will be available next month??
probably
I feel like its going to be december :(
@@Dougsterbob u sure? i see all the old odyssey frames going on sale for really cheap at my local shop.
@@Dougsterbob I saw at bikebling website already have kink 2022 model.
Wat do I do if market over saturated by people spending stimulus check on bikes and covid cause less production and majority of bikes are out of stock even parts
Hit up your local shops and see what's around. I've seen quite a few bikes online that were listed as in stock but only available for in store purchse
Exactly what JDA says!
great vid!
LOL I bought the Mongoose L500 on Saturday, pitty i didn't wait a few days lol
Bro in all honestly its a suprisingly good bike. I was actually impressed and if it was $509 instead of $589 it would have won for sure
@@Dougsterbob i did some major research and because the other bikes were not available anywhere i just bought the L500 off Amazon
Bro do you recommend i change anything or upgrade anything once received?
@@iStiflock change the stock grips buy new ones like; odsy broc raiford, primo cali, s&m hoder grips, cult dak grips, or billy perry grips. don't get odi those are ugly asf.
maybe change the stock pedals too get some nice ones like: animal rat traps, odsy twisted pc pros, cult dak pedals, merritt p1s, eclat centric.
@@chumpy. thanks for the tip bro I have already bout some cult peg so I will go cult stuff.
Thank you!
Still loving the Kink Whip 👌
Yes sir. Can always swap handle bars and forks in the future for clout LMAO. Whip is great as is really.
The wethepeople “single wall” rim a salt valon that is amazingly designed. you should look at a pic where it is cut so it isn’t really standard single wall. more like 1.5
I have a 2020 Reason. I rode those rims for like 3 months and got some Gsport Ribcage wheels. Gave them to my cousin and he’s still riding them a year later with no problems.
@@Thatblackz28 that’s what i did that too but with a friend that still rides ‘em after almost a year
Wow the prices skyrocketed on bmx bikes
They're coming down now
greet video
How is this video and hour and 15 minutes lmao 😂
I ramble a lot 😢😂😂😂
Lol I'm still happy af with my Devotion
I will say I picked mine up, likely the last around for $540, no tax and free shipping
@@JoseGarcia-ih2uh I got it from a site called skatesusa.com but it was the only they had and the only one I've found anywhere
@@JoseGarcia-ih2uh I know the struggle. Idk if they're even gonna make more at this point. I hope you do finds something tho. I think I just really lucky with the money and the bike times out perfect
@@JoseGarcia-ih2uh yeah black was my first choice and the only I managed to find
@@JoseGarcia-ih2uh the green artwork looks sick on the panza bike tho
Nice!
kink cloud
I'm staying with my old bike cause everything is sold out