A-friggin-men, brother. I've come really close to leaving some nasty comments, then deleted it because they're just trying to help. But, between people's horrific communication skills, poor "teaching" skills, and not having a clue as to how to shoot a video.....there's some real crap out there that waste's a LOT of time. That's the problem with platform's with zero standards for who posts what.
This is a trim carpenter here…all the good ones use this method…other guys use caulk…but you can’t use caulk if it’s gonna get stained so this is the way you better learn..good video
I had a base molding with that pain in the... small bead at the top. The carpenter that did it originally had to have some sort of cutting die or router or was just really good. The small cut had a huge lay back (the 20 degree cut you used, but his looked he went in with a drill bit at well over 90 angle). Every piece of wood (all oak) was perfect, but he was set up in the house with torpedo heaters lol. I'm now doing some repair and replacing some trim. Must have spent 1/2 to an hour on each cope. I did the miter saw "trick" on the long part, but just kept at it on the very small bead at the top with a bench grinder and files. It's OK but I couldn't make a living at it. I'm always amazed at how quick a good carpenter can make perfect complex cuts. I understand how it's done but there just seems to be a disconnect between my brain and hands.
When I do coping on shoe or quarter round, I will take a foot long piece of what I am working with and wrap some sandpaper around it and use that to smooth out the cut.
Exactly what I did after having a "Eureka" moment with trying to get that damn curve just right with a dremel (I refuse to use a "Satan-designed" coping saw). Between a cordless dremel and that sandpaper trick, my coping on both the quarter round and my molding (which was exactly like this man's), turned out spectacular after a bit of trial and error.
Lol, same here Don... i was cool on the trim but was wondering could it be the same for the 1/4 round.. could it really be that easy.. and sure enough!! thanks so much for the video!
Helpful visuals. (I was looking for cope and stick videos, but RUclips put your video in my feed, so what the heck?There’s always something to learn...)
Josh, on the base molding whenever I cope I still have a gap on the straight part of the profile when mating to the other piece , what am I doing wrong, my profile is similar to the one you use here...
Yep. Nobody on earth is going to come into your house and look at the baseboard or quarter round. Caulk works just fine. The shoddy workmanship is on the framers and drywallers who couldn’t find 90 degrees with a magnifying glass.
@@jacknone1564 Truth. Most pros where I live only cope crown molding, as it's huge and a lot more noticeable. Everyone miters small base and shoe molding.
Hi Daniel, I'm a little late to reply here but the 20 degree angle was to remove material that could potentially be in the way if the wall corner/angle was more than 90 degrees. If I hadn't done that it could potentially push the face of the trim joint apart and create a gap. Hope that makes sense.
I am going to add some quarter round under my cabinets, using a coping saw was really hard to use, I ended up getting my angle grinder, worked perfectly, then used my file to smooth it. First time doing it, felt pretty proud, cause I screw up all the time
For what it's worth, I went and purchased a cordless Dremel tool, and never looked back. I've never had such a miserable time with a tool, as I had with that coping saw. As a matter of fact, I think that saw became the dremels first dismemberment project. Anyway, something else that helped me tremendously, was using some 150-grit sand paper on the round part of the quarter round to get the curved "contact" edge perfect with just 2-3 sec of sanding. You're probably already done with the project, but thought I'd give you my two cents, given I had a very similar experience. HUGE salute to men like this who found a way to make that coping saw work...I can't imagine the amount of time it took to get proficient at that. I'm finding that most DIY'ers hate it.
@@phillamoore157 I might have to try that. I can see what the guy is doing, and it looks really simple, but every single time I try it, it just doesn't work.
@@phillamoore157 disconnect between brain and hands. It looks easy but takes skill beyond the knowledge to actually do it. I just call it experience and am amazed how things I could never do seem easy after ohhhh a 100 times lol.
Really fine but don't move the guard on the miter saw up with your hand. How about some safety? Although you do mention don't put you hand on the blade that's what the guard is for.
If you have to take it apart to say replace a floor the copes go right back together and look great. Even if they're not perfect copes look like a well fit miter cut.
A saw? For shoe mold??? FUCK THAT!! GET THE DAMN SNIPS FOR SHOE MOLD... DONT WASTE TIME MARKING IT EITHER... use snips to quickly mark and cut without EVER MOVING
Good one but you talking too much, using too many word, too much time to say what you want to say....this is not a law school, visual require few word for grown ups, these many words are for kindergarteners. 👍
Well done video. Alot of skilled carpenters on RUclips, but most of them can't make an instructional video to save their life. Thanks 👍
A-friggin-men, brother. I've come really close to leaving some nasty comments, then deleted it because they're just trying to help. But, between people's horrific communication skills, poor "teaching" skills, and not having a clue as to how to shoot a video.....there's some real crap out there that waste's a LOT of time. That's the problem with platform's with zero standards for who posts what.
This is a trim carpenter here…all the good ones use this method…other guys use caulk…but you can’t use caulk if it’s gonna get stained so this is the way you better learn..good video
I had a base molding with that pain in the... small bead at the top. The carpenter that did it originally had to have some sort of cutting die or router or was just really good. The small cut had a huge lay back (the 20 degree cut you used, but his looked he went in with a drill bit at well over 90 angle). Every piece of wood (all oak) was perfect, but he was set up in the house with torpedo heaters lol. I'm now doing some repair and replacing some trim. Must have spent 1/2 to an hour on each cope. I did the miter saw "trick" on the long part, but just kept at it on the very small bead at the top with a bench grinder and files. It's OK but I couldn't make a living at it.
I'm always amazed at how quick a good carpenter can make perfect complex cuts. I understand how it's done but there just seems to be a disconnect between my brain and hands.
When I do coping on shoe or quarter round, I will take a foot long piece of what I am working with and wrap some sandpaper around it and use that to smooth out the cut.
Exactly what I did after having a "Eureka" moment with trying to get that damn curve just right with a dremel (I refuse to use a "Satan-designed" coping saw). Between a cordless dremel and that sandpaper trick, my coping on both the quarter round and my molding (which was exactly like this man's), turned out spectacular after a bit of trial and error.
Haven't coped in years. Nice cuts bro!
Thanks Rusty!
Thanks, doing my kid's old house with real hardwood floors and molding making this a great find. Nice job.
This guy has to be from Minnesota. Great video!
How can you tell?🤣 Thanks!
Thanks for video. It would have been nice to know when you which way you the 45. I assume it the same angle as IF you would be mitering?
Thanks 😊
You're welcome!
Thank you, very clear and concise
You're very welcome!
Thanks for your clarity….this help me a lot with my copying skills.
Thanks that was what I needed to see.
I recommend a grinder with a sanding wheel when coping.
I did that, worked better
Thank you very much !👍
Thanks I appreciate it. Been a while and I just needed to see it done right one time.
Lol, same here Don... i was cool on the trim but was wondering could it be the same for the 1/4 round.. could it really be that easy.. and sure enough!! thanks so much for the video!
Best video I watched yet on this. Thank you, finishing my flooring now.
Thanks Josh! I wish I had watched this a few rooms ago!
Helpful visuals. (I was looking for cope and stick videos, but RUclips put your video in my feed, so what the heck?There’s always something to learn...)
I needed this is my life! Thank you!
Well done demonstrations!
That’s a beautiful kitchen
Good shit Buddy! jeep them coming!
Josh, on the base molding whenever I cope I still have a gap on the straight part of the profile when mating to the other piece , what am I doing wrong, my profile is similar to the one you use here...
Hi... Mark. I think Mr Josh will do one video on that one day.it normally happens when the walls are not vertically meeting at a 90°
Video starts at 4:35
Great video thank you 👍
I am by no means and expert, but wouldn't it be easier to fill the gap with caulk or wood putty?
Easier but shoddy workmanship. Doesn’t work for professional work.
@@zacharyaln08 A little caulk and paint make up for the carpenter you aint.
Yep. Nobody on earth is going to come into your house and look at the baseboard or quarter round. Caulk works just fine. The shoddy workmanship is on the framers and drywallers who couldn’t find 90 degrees with a magnifying glass.
@@jacknone1564 Truth. Most pros where I live only cope crown molding, as it's huge and a lot more noticeable. Everyone miters small base and shoe molding.
@@jacknone1564; I actually do😂.
Why did he trim on a 20 degree angle
Hi Daniel, I'm a little late to reply here but the 20 degree angle was to remove material that could potentially be in the way if the wall corner/angle was more than 90 degrees. If I hadn't done that it could potentially push the face of the trim joint apart and create a gap. Hope that makes sense.
very good thank you.
Oh yea, a day before I'm adding 1/4 round through the house. thanks!
I am going to add some quarter round under my cabinets, using a coping saw was really hard to use, I ended up getting my angle grinder, worked perfectly, then used my file to smooth it. First time doing it, felt pretty proud, cause I screw up all the time
Keep at it man. You cant improve if you dont make mistakes.
For what it's worth, I went and purchased a cordless Dremel tool, and never looked back. I've never had such a miserable time with a tool, as I had with that coping saw. As a matter of fact, I think that saw became the dremels first dismemberment project. Anyway, something else that helped me tremendously, was using some 150-grit sand paper on the round part of the quarter round to get the curved "contact" edge perfect with just 2-3 sec of sanding. You're probably already done with the project, but thought I'd give you my two cents, given I had a very similar experience. HUGE salute to men like this who found a way to make that coping saw work...I can't imagine the amount of time it took to get proficient at that. I'm finding that most DIY'ers hate it.
@@phillamoore157 I might have to try that. I can see what the guy is doing, and it looks really simple, but every single time I try it, it just doesn't work.
@@TotemoGaijin Yeah...I had he exact same problem.
@@phillamoore157 disconnect between brain and hands. It looks easy but takes skill beyond the knowledge to actually do it. I just call it experience and am amazed how things I could never do seem easy after ohhhh a 100 times lol.
Show an external angle??
Really fine but don't move the guard on the miter saw up with your hand. How about some safety? Although you do mention don't put you hand on the blade that's what the guard is for.
this is great thanks
Thank you
Why not just find the angle? Woulnt that be easier and a lot less work?
If you have to take it apart to say replace a floor the copes go right back together and look great. Even if they're not perfect copes look like a well fit miter cut.
Thanks
Well done for a female's complex mind!
does this work for outside corners?
No Sir, you'll have to miter the outside corners.
Try it
@@staticmotion9438 😏
Cut 44 degrees instead of 45
We do that often depending on the situation.
Nice!!!!
Nice cope
even seeing it done it's still black magic to me. I just cant visualize it
A lot of work when a dab of caulking will do ya. Now if your getting paid by the hour. Then cope away. All depends on who's paying the bills 😉
Justin bieber big brother
A saw? For shoe mold??? FUCK THAT!! GET THE DAMN SNIPS FOR SHOE MOLD... DONT WASTE TIME MARKING IT EITHER... use snips to quickly mark and cut without EVER MOVING
Lol
Good one but you talking too much, using too many word, too much time to say what you want to say....this is not a law school, visual require few word for grown ups, these many words are for kindergarteners. 👍