Just because its name is HLR….. I’m a 31.5” draw guy that likes a 450-470 grain arrow that I can push my FOC up to 15-17%. This is a great arrow that will serve many functions. I see it a lot more durable than the Easton 5.0
@@jcscustomarchery8247 Interesting. Black Eagle claims the full length of the shaft. I prefer Victory arrows. Ahh...my love/hate relationship with marketing. ;-)
Anyone who would try to make a shot from a range that some might call to far or long range. Is gonna do that with a gold tip hunter or a HLR. It’s the hunter not the arrow. 🎯
@@zaynemikita6897 Depending on what your doing. Rip XV/3dhv are 7.1gp @ 300 spine and they are not very durable. They are durable for how light they are but in general they are kinda fragile bc of the gpi. I have no issue shooting a whitetail with my 370gr rip xV with a fixed blade but I'm afraid to hit a shoulder. and I don't think I'd use them with a wide cut mechanical. I switched from rip XV(370gr) to a rip tko(465gr) because I wanted a more durable arrow. Rip tko base build was 430gr but I added a 125gr field point to get a better foc and added a lighted nock. I specifically wanted a 400gr base arrow(100gr field point) leaving my 300 spine gpi being around 8. What do you know victory and easton dropped around 8gpi 300 spine arrows at the same time. Maybe all my research was worth the effort bc I came to the same conclusion as Sirius/black eagle, victory, and easton considering they all make an arrow around 8gpi
I have the 5.0, RIP TKO and RIPXV and have tested many other 5mm shafts. I like the RIP TKO best for hunting and RIPXV or 3DHV for 3D and TAC. I would go with HLR over 5.0. I'm not impressed with the Match Grade 5.0s I got. I had a 4 grain difference from heaviest to lightest and spine wasn't very consistent shaft to shaft. Also, their claim of no spine and no need to nock tune is BS. Over half of my dozen had an obvious stiff side. The durability is the main reason I won't be hunting with the 5.0. They are pretty fragile in 340 spine, already broke 2 of them. I think the HLR is going to be more durable based on shooting Axis and RIP TKOs in the past. The RIP TKO is lighter and more durable. It's hard to believe the HLR won't be stronger at the same weight as the 5.0.
@@douglasvaughn9530 I shot a couple easton arrows along with victory. My experience was my victory arrows spun better, had stiffer spines(than advertised vs Easton), and aside from the outsert catching my victory arrows pulled easier out of targets. Granted victory uses a nano coating to make arrows easier to pull and after shooting multiple different targets I found victory arrows easier to pull 90% of the time. Observing easton arrows spine being weaker than victory I also noticed better arrow durability with victory vs easton given similar gpi. Heavier gpi = more durable arrow. This is personal experience and opinion and I feel victory and easton both make great arrows this is just my experience to pass on. Bottom line is I feel your very spot on with what you said about victory HLR probably being more durable than the easton 5.0 at the same spine.
Long range is different for everyone and only looked down on by a small minority. It's best to have options for everyone and encourage them to be the best shooters/hunters they can be.
@@LancasterArcherySupply True. However, I am trying to get a 300 grain 500 spine hunting arrow for my wife's setup. In AZ, we have to shoot longer hunting distances due to terrain and lack of trees so we need the speed and trajectory.
@@keithquick This is her hunting rig. She only pulls 47lbs so she needs the speed to get to 60 easily. She runs 260gr 3DHV's on her target rig and gets 270 fps. I was hoping to get her 265fps with her Mach 30 hunting rig with a 285-300gr arrow. She is currently shooting a 336 gr at 238fps but the pin gaps are pretty far apart.
I suspect the amount of animals getting gut shot or having arrows sticking out of their legs ect dying very slow and painful deaths is going way up with this new 'tend' of long range hunting.... pretty sad. Victory seems to be in support of it though ay
While I agree that many people take unethical shots, long range is subjective. Whitetail hunters have different needs than hunters out West, here out West 60 to 80 yards for an elk is fairly common... But it's a significantly bigger animal, hence the longer shots.
Wounded animals happen at any any range, with every type of weapon. Plus, the definition for "long" range is different for everyone and can be different solely based on the situation. Best we have options for any preference and situation shooters and hunters will be in to make the best shots possible.
Seems like a good and strong alternative to the 3DHV as well!
So if I’ve already ordered the 300 spines when do they ship
Wait on my order to ship from Lancaster can't wait to build a set of these hlr arrows
Just because its name is HLR….. I’m a 31.5” draw guy that likes a 450-470 grain arrow that I can push my FOC up to 15-17%. This is a great arrow that will serve many functions. I see it a lot more durable than the Easton 5.0
When will they be in stoke
What field points are those?
TopHat Tool Steel Pin Points
what vanes are these?
Look like TAC DRIVER 2.25 vanes
Maybe the 2.75
Hey PJ, when can we expect these to start shipping?
We have inventory now!
Is the .001 tolerance calculated for the entire length of the carbon shaft, or just the center portion?
most companies its the center point
@@jcscustomarchery8247 Interesting. Black Eagle claims the full length of the shaft. I prefer Victory arrows. Ahh...my love/hate relationship with marketing. ;-)
@@jcscustomarchery8247 I thought industry standard was over 28 inches?
I’m only taking a 30yard shot and closer so i personally don’t need a arrow that cost 120$ per 6
Anyone who would try to make a shot from a range that some might call to far or long range. Is gonna do that with a gold tip hunter or a HLR. It’s the hunter not the arrow. 🎯
Well said!!
Victory HLR or Easton 5.0 which should I get? 31.5” draw 74lbs Bowtech SS34 250 spine.
Or Victory RIP XV
@@zaynemikita6897 Depending on what your doing. Rip XV/3dhv are 7.1gp @ 300 spine and they are not very durable. They are durable for how light they are but in general they are kinda fragile bc of the gpi. I have no issue shooting a whitetail with my 370gr rip xV with a fixed blade but I'm afraid to hit a shoulder. and I don't think I'd use them with a wide cut mechanical. I switched from rip XV(370gr) to a rip tko(465gr) because I wanted a more durable arrow. Rip tko base build was 430gr but I added a 125gr field point to get a better foc and added a lighted nock. I specifically wanted a 400gr base arrow(100gr field point) leaving my 300 spine gpi being around 8. What do you know victory and easton dropped around 8gpi 300 spine arrows at the same time. Maybe all my research was worth the effort bc I came to the same conclusion as Sirius/black eagle, victory, and easton considering they all make an arrow around 8gpi
I have the 5.0, RIP TKO and RIPXV and have tested many other 5mm shafts. I like the RIP TKO best for hunting and RIPXV or 3DHV for 3D and TAC. I would go with HLR over 5.0.
I'm not impressed with the Match Grade 5.0s I got. I had a 4 grain difference from heaviest to lightest and spine wasn't very consistent shaft to shaft. Also, their claim of no spine and no need to nock tune is BS. Over half of my dozen had an obvious stiff side. The durability is the main reason I won't be hunting with the 5.0. They are pretty fragile in 340 spine, already broke 2 of them. I think the HLR is going to be more durable based on shooting Axis and RIP TKOs in the past. The RIP TKO is lighter and more durable. It's hard to believe the HLR won't be stronger at the same weight as the 5.0.
@@douglasvaughn9530 I shot a couple easton arrows along with victory. My experience was my victory arrows spun better, had stiffer spines(than advertised vs Easton), and aside from the outsert catching my victory arrows pulled easier out of targets. Granted victory uses a nano coating to make arrows easier to pull and after shooting multiple different targets I found victory arrows easier to pull 90% of the time. Observing easton arrows spine being weaker than victory I also noticed better arrow durability with victory vs easton given similar gpi. Heavier gpi = more durable arrow. This is personal experience and opinion and I feel victory and easton both make great arrows this is just my experience to pass on. Bottom line is I feel your very spot on with what you said about victory HLR probably being more durable than the easton 5.0 at the same spine.
Arrow tech has been maxed out 😂 now they are just coming up with different 🐂💩 to sell to fam boys
Encouraging to shoot longer while hunting is something that has been looked down on and now an HLR? HMMM. . .
Victory wants to give you the best chance possible of winning the TAC Truck at Total Archery Challenge by hitting the long distance caribou.
@LancasterArcherySupply 🤣
Long range is different for everyone and only looked down on by a small minority. It's best to have options for everyone and encourage them to be the best shooters/hunters they can be.
@@LancasterArcherySupplyright
Dude with crossbow in his name complaining about long shots? Lul
killed all the lightweight features by having a 50 grain front outsert.
You could also think of it as allowing you to simply have the same weight of arrow but with a significantly higher FOC.
Actually no they haven't. I bet You can use the lighter outsert that you would use on the Rip XV's .
@@LancasterArcherySupply True. However, I am trying to get a 300 grain 500 spine hunting arrow for my wife's setup. In AZ, we have to shoot longer hunting distances due to terrain and lack of trees so we need the speed and trajectory.
@@mattb383if it's targets only just buy glue in field points. You can break them to 85 grains and don't need an insert.
@@keithquick This is her hunting rig. She only pulls 47lbs so she needs the speed to get to 60 easily. She runs 260gr 3DHV's on her target rig and gets 270 fps. I was hoping to get her 265fps with her Mach 30 hunting rig with a 285-300gr arrow. She is currently shooting a 336 gr at 238fps but the pin gaps are pretty far apart.
I suspect the amount of animals getting gut shot or having arrows sticking out of their legs ect dying very slow and painful deaths is going way up with this new 'tend' of long range hunting.... pretty sad. Victory seems to be in support of it though ay
While I agree that many people take unethical shots, long range is subjective. Whitetail hunters have different needs than hunters out West, here out West 60 to 80 yards for an elk is fairly common... But it's a significantly bigger animal, hence the longer shots.
Wounded animals happen at any any range, with every type of weapon. Plus, the definition for "long" range is different for everyone and can be different solely based on the situation. Best we have options for any preference and situation shooters and hunters will be in to make the best shots possible.
Your ethical range is your ethical range regardless of what arrows you shoot. For most people 40 yards in a real life hunting situation is too far.
If you're dumb enough to think the name of an arrow decides how far you can shoot an animal you probably shouldn't be hunting.
Tell us your a old man or a peta bot without telling us harder
It's all relative
Absolutely ridiculous 🤦🏿♂️
What exactly is ridiculous?