💯 The people are the problem. Clean people can't elect dirty leaders. We are complicit in corruption and therefore don't see how it harms us. We can pray to get a good leader like Nyerere or Khama who inculctated good cultures/principles to be followed but as long as people are dirty,they won't be able to identify good leaders.
Kirwa- Ruto Is a Micro-Manager And Rigathi Is A Dominion. Their Relationship Was Not To Last. THE BEST CABINET SECRETARY FOR AGRICULTURE IN KIBAKI'S GOVERNMENT. A VERY SOBER AND MATURE DEBATER, VERY ELOQUENT AND STRAIGHT SHOOTING. NO MINCING WORDS.
Very true assertions. The main problem is us the citizens. We pressure our leaders to accumulate wealth within unrealistic periods, leading to chronic embezzlement of public funds. I think we as Kenyans need to be re-educated on being true patriots. Our leaders should also act in good faith to reverse the situation and head in the right direction. Thank you Kipruto Arap Kirwa for the insights.
Gen Z was nearly solving the Kenyan problem by removing Zakayo and all elected leaders, but unfortunately Raila with his ODM rescued Zakayo's regime. Some of Gen Z unrecognized leaders have been compromised after Raila's ODM got into bed with KK. To hoodwink Raila with AU full financial and diplomatic support, president Ruto's mission now is to divide Mt Kenya voters 😡. My god forbid this mischief.
Deputy governor should be abolished, PAs are sufficient. What if mps sat in Counties with governor , to take care of resource distribution in constituencies, abolish MCA's seat and have ward reps instead .....then we have a parliament with a man , a woman and a youth from every county then chose 9pwds.surely 150 people are enough to make laws and provide oversight. Na we half their salaries
It's so unfortunate that we have minds like Kirwa yet we have the likes of Murkomen in Kenyan cabinet.I honestly pray to God to save us from the evil leadership visited upon the kenyan people.We are emotionally drained from the over exposure to politics yet our efforts don't matter. Really pessimistic prospects .God will love us even past those dates when they shall exit the arena with their wicked ways . 🇰🇪🗺
The problem is the kitchen cabinet we have three tiers of the Executive. The president, the kitchen cabinet (Farouk Kibet), the deputy president in that pecking order.
👏👏👏Mr Kipruto Kirwa is one person that’s principled from moi rogue era, he stood up against moi’s tribally instigated clashes & land crashes & moi didn’t like him because he was & is a disciplined truthful man.He was a real servant of the people unlike the current crop of parliamentarians & the rogue ministers who thinks of stealing in an industrial scale.
Eric - I think Kirwa is quite mistaken saying Ruto is a micro-manager. Ruto is a very confused and chaotic fella who does not deserve to be a president of anything, let alone a country like Kenya which he has completely destroyed with corruption and theft of our coffers!
Ruto got the votes from mountain with Gachagua . After GenZ he decided that its time he needs Raila & no more Gachagua. Play political. They think people are stupid
Instead of focusing on the real thing that threatens Kenyans most, the Adani scandal, you are focusing on this manufactured scandal:, which, if your were to examine deeply, is a deliberate distraction from the Adani monster.
Kirwa needs to answer...if the DP or his allies indeed as reported financed Gen Zs....is the president expected to remain a hostage of his own statement that he will not subject his DP to humiliations as he want through.
Kibaki had his own cold war against Raila😂😂 that's where the focus was. These are recurrent wars for shares in the looting of Kenya, government contracts and so on.
I think the problem about what the people don't care when leaders loot the government is the culture of what the previous leaders did, especially when it comes to tribal leadership.
'Kirwa said 'You see Ruto is also a Micro-Manager and too Dominiering. Rigathis is also combative'' The title hapo juu is misleading ama Kizungu ndio chanichanganya hehe
I have never understood why when people seek elections they are so humble and accommodative, once they are elected they have security barriers, loot ambitions and they become psychophants. As a people we are also to blame we vote because of tribe and patronism. At the moment we are complaining but when voice of reason of Kenyans offer themselves the tribal chiefs rule the day. We have Ole Kiyapi, Anyang Nyong'o, Kivutha Kibwana, Kenneth Marende just to mention afew if any of these offers themselves to us we all go back to, "mtu wetu".
I truly agree with this gentleman,💯. Unfortunately i have to say that the society is rotten. The greatest danger that can happen to a nation. Who will lead? If the leaders are to be chosen from the society 🤔 Worst enough is a country that claims to be 70% Christian but 90% corrupt, a redicule to christian religion 🤦🏾. These leaders sometime when you meet them, they seem to feel as if they are small gods. Values should be instilled starting from the family unit and schools. Description of what is wrong and right, what corruption means in the individual level. As long as you choose individual convenience over the rule of law, you are cementing a culture of lawlessness, selfishness and corruption...
Why president moi faces allot of challenges during his period as vice president and president of kenya, again president ruto is facing the same, why some this leaders from mountain are giving difficulties ,while there time they finished comfortably
The problem is putting together ethnic calculations to win elections. Our politics are not issues based.When When will a best person from lamu ever rule this country if our minds are synonymous with ethnicity?
People from mountain voted for gachagu not ruto so what will happen for those votes if they impeach gachagua and those votes are the ones made ruto president
Hon kirwa is a leader with principals as senior politicians those who can understand his interview was totally with highest principalities of no politics 😊
All jobs have qualifications after relevant studies. Have some in the Political class really have the qualifications required for the jobs they do? The language they use is also another problem.
If its almost all over world, then kirwa is wrong on practical politics. Democracy is a theory in writing and reed to a group of leaders within their fold, but it won't work practically. That's why odm with nyongo in had to read but play it kanu way practically in leadership.
Gachagua views himself as being a co-president & not a deputy. Ruto did the same with Uhuru. He believed he was a co-president. Problem in Kenya is that the ONLY way to become rich is through political corruption not brain power and as long as this remains the case, Kenya will remain a poverty stricken third world country
This man is a reject and not relevant in kenyan politics. This Kirwa was an MP in my cherangany constituency for 20 years and he did nothing absolutely we have no roads, bridges, TIVETs admin infrastructure etc all he did is marry many wives not saying it is bad, he did nothing. In 2007 he was Minister of Agriculture and MP Cherangany for President KIbaki, fertilizer was 6000 shillings and farmers were suffering i know because I am a son of a farmer and i was in school then, William Ruto said he had done maths using all tribes and there is no way fertilizer should be 6000 that it should be 2000 shillings per bag. That non-performer Kirwa minister of agriculture from Transnzoia food basket said 2000 shillings per bag is impossible. When Ruto became minister of agriculture fertilizer came down to 2600 shillings then 1600 shillings . I do not understand kenyan media obsessiveness with non-performers, idea less and useless people to shape opinion of kenyans. Media kenya iko na upungufu wa wajinga ,some people should never be recycled in your studios
This is one leader I have much respect for.
He is one of the best ministers kenya ever had.such an independent thinker.
Sometimes when I listen to Mzee arap Kirwa, I just appreciate the wisdom this man has. May God bless him and family.
He is respected leader, full of wisdom and I also like the way he demonstrates linguistic flamboyance
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The people are the problem. Clean people can't elect dirty leaders. We are complicit in corruption and therefore don't see how it harms us. We can pray to get a good leader like Nyerere or Khama who inculctated good cultures/principles to be followed but as long as people are dirty,they won't be able to identify good leaders.
You correctly captured it.
Kirwa- Ruto Is a Micro-Manager And Rigathi Is A Dominion. Their Relationship Was Not To Last. THE BEST CABINET SECRETARY FOR AGRICULTURE IN KIBAKI'S GOVERNMENT. A VERY SOBER AND MATURE DEBATER, VERY ELOQUENT AND STRAIGHT SHOOTING. NO MINCING WORDS.
Hon.Kiprotich Arap Cherargei is a people's watchman for real...God bless his hard work and I hope the impeachment of Governor Sang sails through
Even Bomet county ...
Cherargei knows attacking Ruto ni suicidal...
Very true assertions. The main problem is us the citizens. We pressure our leaders to accumulate wealth within unrealistic periods, leading to chronic embezzlement of public funds. I think we as Kenyans need to be re-educated on being true patriots. Our leaders should also act in good faith to reverse the situation and head in the right direction. Thank you Kipruto Arap Kirwa for the insights.
What a sober conversation ..!
His.mastery of English and choice of words is impeccable.
Most brilliant leader from the Kalenjin community. May God Protect you. You are so truthful
This former Agricultural Minister called Kipruto Arap Kirwa makes a lot of sense any day.
Pleasure Hon K.a.K,
I'm happy to see you oozing wisdom, sir.
we've never voted for a president that wanted this constitution. We should just be realistic and adjust our expectations till 2027
Honourable Kipruto arap kirwa is making sense, on issues of tolerate and intolerant, plus bad hygiene in politics.
Man of integrity
He wears the Grace of God
The best agriculture minister.
Ruto and Riggy are type A personality. Kindiki Bunduki and a mellow person like him will work well with president
Great insights from Kipruto kirwa. The current crop of leaders would do themselves some favour to listen to this doyen.
Thumbs up for the presenters and panelist,I enjoyed this show.
Ruto needed Mt Kenya numbers and Neither Kindiki nor Wahome could mobilize the mountain as well as Gachagua!
Kipruto arap kirwa,Wise man he was the face of agriculture and food security,I admires the likes of kirwa,kivutha kibwana Men of wisdom
thankyou sir..... Good memory for bad things and bad memory for good things
Gen Z was nearly solving the Kenyan problem by removing Zakayo and all elected leaders, but unfortunately Raila with his ODM rescued Zakayo's regime. Some of Gen Z unrecognized leaders have been compromised after Raila's ODM got into bed with KK. To hoodwink Raila with AU full financial and diplomatic support, president Ruto's mission now is to divide Mt Kenya voters 😡. My god forbid this mischief.
And he stil looks young
Totally agree, during the introduction I had other expectations
Deputy governor should be abolished, PAs are sufficient. What if mps sat in Counties with governor , to take care of resource distribution in constituencies, abolish MCA's seat and have ward reps instead
.....then we have a parliament with a man , a woman and a youth from every county then chose 9pwds.surely 150 people are enough to make laws and provide oversight.
Na we half their salaries
Kirwa was/is one of our best ministers who should advise RUTO on governance.
It's so unfortunate that we have minds like Kirwa yet we have the likes of Murkomen in Kenyan cabinet.I honestly pray to God to save us from the evil leadership visited upon the kenyan people.We are emotionally drained from the over exposure to politics yet our efforts don't matter. Really pessimistic prospects .God will love us even past those dates when they shall exit the arena with their wicked ways .
🇰🇪🗺
Kirwa was one of the most brilliant minister in Kibaki's cabinet. I wish Ruto could have a fraction of his wisdom.
The problem is the kitchen cabinet we have three tiers of the Executive. The president, the kitchen cabinet (Farouk Kibet), the deputy president in that pecking order.
This is unconstitutional and the DP is not subservient to the kitchen cabinet Na hapo ndio Iko shida
Straight forward man n gentleman….
This man's praise for Tanzania would lead one to believe that country is next to heaven.
👏👏👏Mr Kipruto Kirwa is one person that’s principled from moi rogue era, he stood up against moi’s tribally instigated clashes & land crashes & moi didn’t like him because he was & is a disciplined truthful man.He was a real servant of the people unlike the current crop of parliamentarians & the rogue ministers who thinks of stealing in an industrial scale.
Minute 44-46 has me cracking in the office
Good morning
Commentt on ceremonial president and prime minister, pro and cons, versus current arrangement
Thanks
Our country needs total rejuvenation of leaders. We better rewind these old folks like Kipruto arap Kirwa....
Eric - I think Kirwa is quite mistaken saying Ruto is a micro-manager. Ruto is a very confused and chaotic fella who does not deserve to be a president of anything, let alone a country like Kenya which he has completely destroyed with corruption and theft of our coffers!
The Constitution has no issue, just our behaviour. Leaders are the problems ( leadership and commitment is the starting of everything)
Is the only informed political mind in Kenya
Ruto got the votes from mountain with Gachagua . After GenZ he decided that its time he needs Raila & no more Gachagua. Play political. They think people are stupid
Before Gachagua,he was already in the mountain,brought by uhuru.Yangu kumi yake kumi deni.
Instead of focusing on the real thing that threatens Kenyans most, the Adani scandal, you are focusing on this manufactured scandal:, which, if your were to examine deeply, is a deliberate distraction from the Adani monster.
They already aired ADANI, SHA & SHIF.
I agree with Kirwa that we the people are the problem. But coming late after he enjoyed the largees in previous administration.
Kipruto Arap kirwa is genius
Kirwa needs to answer...if the DP or his allies indeed as reported financed Gen Zs....is the president expected to remain a hostage of his own statement that he will not subject his DP to humiliations as he want through.
Do you perceive the hidden hand of USA in all these? I do?
Kibaki had his own cold war against Raila😂😂 that's where the focus was. These are recurrent wars for shares in the looting of Kenya, government contracts and so on.
In Kibakis time there was also lots of looting and tenderpreneurship. Its only that from moi's era,anything would sound good.
I think the problem about what the people don't care when leaders loot the government is the culture of what the previous leaders did, especially when it comes to tribal leadership.
In other words, we don't understand government, and we don't think it's for our benefit or our responsibility.
'Kirwa said 'You see Ruto is also a Micro-Manager and too Dominiering. Rigathis is also combative'' The title hapo juu is misleading ama Kizungu ndio chanichanganya hehe
🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦 Excellent
I have never understood why when people seek elections they are so humble and accommodative, once they are elected they have security barriers, loot ambitions and they become psychophants.
As a people we are also to blame we vote because of tribe and patronism. At the moment we are complaining but when voice of reason of Kenyans offer themselves the tribal chiefs rule the day.
We have Ole Kiyapi, Anyang Nyong'o, Kivutha Kibwana, Kenneth Marende just to mention afew if any of these offers themselves to us we all go back to, "mtu wetu".
We should revert back to provincial administration and only reform the position of deputy president to be elected by the people.
I truly agree with this gentleman,💯.
Unfortunately i have to say that the society is rotten. The greatest danger that can happen to a nation. Who will lead? If the leaders are to be chosen from the society 🤔
Worst enough is a country that claims to be 70% Christian but 90% corrupt, a redicule to christian religion 🤦🏾.
These leaders sometime when you meet them, they seem to feel as if they are small gods.
Values should be instilled starting from the family unit and schools. Description of what is wrong and right, what corruption means in the individual level.
As long as you choose individual convenience over the rule of law, you are cementing a culture of lawlessness, selfishness and corruption...
The blood in the street shall be answered for.
Cherangani c is in T N
Leadership should have both political hygien,rule of law and people should respect other peoples positions on humanity grounds😅😅😅
Amenona....!!!!
The pair was a mistake from the word go. I fully agree with Chris on this. RigG forced his way in hence the unfortunate ending
Why president moi faces allot of challenges during his period as vice president and president of kenya, again president ruto is facing the same, why some this leaders from mountain are giving difficulties ,while there time they finished comfortably
Kalonzo pick omtata pick kipturo pic no. 44 pick onyoka pick the right pple I will vote for for you
He said RiggyG is domineering not “dominion”
You can't trust ruto atall
True
What we have to do is to to say no to sympathy in Vote
Kenyans should focus on 2027.ask themselves honest questions and choose good leaders kenyans aint tribal just politicians.otherwise kenya finished.
The problem is putting together ethnic calculations to win elections. Our politics are not issues based.When When will a best person from lamu ever rule this country if our minds are synonymous with ethnicity?
How much he is worth?
People from mountain voted for gachagu not ruto so what will happen for those votes if they impeach gachagua and those votes are the ones made ruto president
Hon kirwa is a leader with principals as senior politicians those who can understand his interview was totally with highest principalities of no politics 😊
Public participation in the selection of a deputy president from a list of qualified candidates...
We are the problem truly,no development but u still yap mtu wetu
DP must go from 2025 DP will appointment not voted in as running mate as copresident
Institutions and systems.
Impeach both because their squabbles equal DERELICTION OF DUTY
Wow
Kirwa, from running down KTN news to Radio? Skewed analysis
Latiff and Ndu😂😂😂😂😂
All jobs have qualifications after relevant studies. Have some in the Political class really have the qualifications required for the jobs they do? The language they use is also another problem.
If its almost all over world, then kirwa is wrong on practical politics.
Democracy is a theory in writing and reed to a group of leaders within their fold, but it won't work practically.
That's why odm with nyongo in had to read but play it kanu way practically in leadership.
Ruto is a micro thief not a micro manager,
Gzs will take our country back from wesii
Kenyans kisungu mingi , na hamjui tatizo , Tatizo ni kabila mbili makubwa tutoa rais na naibu , wote nanaona kuwa na wapigakura na nguvu sawa ,
Ruto suffers from so many deficies
Deficiencies
We do not elect demagogues in the highest offices of governance
This female host is very proficient she must have studied in Europe.
She is from nigeria
@@dennisotieno-f9wcollege in London I’m sure
Waaaaah😮
Dog to look after the meat😂😂😂😂😂
Voter ignorance is the major contributor to bad governance
Gachagua views himself as being a co-president & not a deputy. Ruto did the same with Uhuru. He believed he was a co-president.
Problem in Kenya is that the ONLY way to become rich is through political corruption not brain power and as long as this remains the case, Kenya will remain a poverty stricken third world country
Very right ... These collisions form on the basis of "power sharing" ... But the law only allows for one leader.
This man is a reject and not relevant in kenyan politics. This Kirwa was an MP in my cherangany constituency for 20 years and he did nothing absolutely we have no roads, bridges, TIVETs admin infrastructure etc all he did is marry many wives not saying it is bad, he did nothing. In 2007 he was Minister of Agriculture and MP Cherangany for President KIbaki, fertilizer was 6000 shillings and farmers were suffering i know because I am a son of a farmer and i was in school then, William Ruto said he had done maths using all tribes and there is no way fertilizer should be 6000 that it should be 2000 shillings per bag. That non-performer Kirwa minister of agriculture from Transnzoia food basket said 2000 shillings per bag is impossible. When Ruto became minister of agriculture fertilizer came down to 2600 shillings then 1600 shillings . I do not understand kenyan media obsessiveness with non-performers, idea less and useless people to shape opinion of kenyans. Media kenya iko na upungufu wa wajinga ,some people should never be recycled in your studios
I second you as a resident of Cheraa. He has been my mp and this guy did nothing to his constituents. Mention one major project.
I am a Luo but i fear if a luo becomes president kenya tutachapa mpaka mende
44:40 Lol🤣