EVs have a reputation for being easier to maintain than a gas-powered car. But is that the truth? We check it out. Read our full article here: www.carmax.com/articles/electric-car-maintenance
With gas vehicles, you can shop around for a mechanic. There are only a few EV shops and even minor work requires a specially-trained software guy with specialized tools. Which do you think costs more?
The EV only needed cabin air filters and tires changed up to 150,000 and more realistically they won’t need any major maintenance or battery replacement for at least 2-300,000 miles. So why are you shopping around for techs? They don’t need tuneups. They don’t need smog checks. They don’t need oil changes or replacement parts. I think people just assume they’re a bad deal based on what they’re used to from dealing with gas powered cars.
@@craigcampbell1843 they require alot more tires and the battery depending how it was made and there you live and a bunch of other things will degrade much faster ill still stick with my 5.9 cummins and outlast any ev
@@infernoking7504it literally has less moving parts. No exhaust, no belts, no, no transmission, no spark plugs, no misfires, the only thing that stays the same is the control arms and looking RUclips videos can still get you by.
@@jesualdocortez6426 ik it has less moving parts electric motors are amazing its the batterys and miles of copper wire and a electrical degree to fix anything major is what I have a issue with also there part of planned obsolescence so yeah.
Do this same thing, but have the numbers reflect a person who does their own car work, in their own driveway. It depends on exactly what ICE car you get, as to when the transmission will need to be replaced, and so on. My Toyota, is over 170,000 miles, with no transmission issues, and the only mechanical parts replaced being the alternator.
Insurance costs installing at home charger $2000:00, waiting time while charging turning an 8 hr journey into a 12 hr journey add another $400.00 each way per trip. Depreciation @ 40% p/a
To make a more appropriate comparison you needed to include total cost of fuel in this. The battery replacement might not look so bad once you have factored that in.
Once everything factored in a ev that is 5 k more cost about the same as a gas car if you replace the battery at 150k miles. But if you have someone that doesn't drive much in the house and another that drives a lot you can rotate the new cars so the new one goes to the drive a lot group and the not drive much goes to other getting full life on car without battery replacement.
Response from Copilot: To compare the costs of refueling a gas-powered car versus charging an electric car over 150,000 miles, we’ll need to consider the average fuel economy of the vehicles and the current prices for gas and electricity. For a gas-powered car, let’s assume an average fuel economy of 30 miles per gallon (MPG). If you drive 150,000 miles, you would need approximately 5,000 gallons of gas. With a gas price of $3.75 per gallon, the total cost would be $18,7501. For an electric car, assuming an average efficiency of 3.5 miles per kilowatt-hour (kWh) and an electricity price of 17.2 pence per kWh (which is about $0.22 USD per kWh), to travel 150,000 miles would cost around $5,142.862. So, in this scenario, the electric car is significantly cheaper to run over 150,000 miles compared to the gas-powered car. Keep in mind that these are estimates and actual costs can vary based on the specific vehicle model, driving conditions, and changes in fuel prices. Additionally, this comparison only considers fuel and electricity costs and does not take into account other factors such as maintenance or insurance.
When I had my 2019 mustang I looked at the cost of replacing the motor. It’s $14,580 new and that doesn’t include shipping, installation and then all the setup. Replacing a battery is very close to the same cost as replacing a motor. Even the eco boost is nearly $7k just for the motor. And yes you can get a used motor for cheaper. But looking at real cost Apples to Apple new replacement it’s very close to the same cost for both.
@@majac3356 Exactly the same as a battery. The chances of anyone in either needing a change either is rare. I beat the crap out of my 93, mustang GT, 2015 EcoBoost Mustang that was Modified and my 2019 GT which was also modified, now 3 Mach E later still have not had to Replace anything that large. Again its rare My 2021 MME cost me $25 for its maintenance, 2022 Cost the same and I suspect my 2023 will be in the say range.
@@SerendipitousProducts technically you have to replace it if you needed a bigger range because of range loss resulting in people replacing battery. But I bet like my house hold versus others some person drives only like 50 miles a week while the other will drive 250+ miles a week so you can play the rotate car game every time you all get a new car so not having to replace battery.
We also have to take into consideration that EVs seem to depreciate faster than many similar gas vehicles. That cost of depreciation should be factored in if you're going to resell the vehicle.
It seems that the high priced Tesla Model S and X take a fair depreciation hit, but take a good look at the Model 3 and Y and you won’t find one below $30 used. Also, the depreciation will lower as people figure out the real lifespan of various models of EVs. I am betting a Tesla will last a lot longer than a Chevrolet Bolt. One basic difference is Tesla cars and SUVs use Aluminum bodies, where Chevy Bolts are stamped steel as usual.
This video makes the statement, "studies show that electric vehicles cost less to maintain than their gas-powered counterparts". Precisely which "studies" and which EV models is this referring to? Most EV models that exist today don't have a track record anywhere near long enough to support the statement. Also, the purchase price of EV's (even minus government rebates) is so exorbitant vs gas powered cars that the total cost of owning an EV is higher.
Nissan Leaf was released in 2013. Mitsubishi had a mass produced EV on the market back in 2008 or 2009. That's a good amount of data to go off I'd have thought. As for the price, they're too expensive from new, however, I've just bought a 2020 Renault Zoe with 13k on the clock for £10800. My 2020 Mazda 2 with 23k on the coock which was involved in an accident had a book price of £9900. After driven both I can say the Zoe is the better deal for a used car if you're not driving more than 180 miles a day.
I currently have a 2022 Honda Accord Sport for $32,000 and I’m leasing it so, I want to replace it, next year, for a 2024 Acura Hybrid or Honda Accord Hybrid.
I've been researching cost of ownership between ICE and EVs, and with the help of AI I did a rough estimate from info found online between a Honda Accord(gas & hybrid) and a Tesla Model 3. Assuming that I pay 30k for either vehicle, I found that the Hybrid is slightly cheaper to own than the gas version over the 15 years. It is the cost of insurance and battery replacement that unfortunately kills it for the EVs at the moment. The gas ends up being around 29-30k cheaper than the Tesla The Hybrid ends up being around $3k-4k cheaper than the gas
Odd seen many things showing model 3 cheaper over x period of time. My insurance is also only 10 bucks a month more expensive with an EV versus gas so I also wonder if different states charging a super EV premium just because.
Good presentation in ROUTINE SERVICE less maintenance. After the warranty when electronics problems arises, charges for repairs are street time that might give you a heart attack. 😂 Advice is keep your old car until your dying day. 😮
I was told $20,000 for new battery on some ev battery replacement, and dealership try to weasel out of as many warranty clams,because manufacturers refuse them
@@robinsooran8188 New gas car computer repairs if it gets faulty is getting insane. Not really the ev fault more of right to repair is dying and evs has loop wholes where they don't have to be as nice as gas cars in that regard. But gas cars are adding more and more tech to try to get around certain repair requirements that was placed on gas cars in the past.
@@robinsooran8188 old gas cars, but I have notice new cars needing way more repairs then older counter parts. The computer/electronics on these new gas cars has more issues than normal as well. Then you also have to look at which gas cars yes Toyota last forever but chrysler would def die faster then an EV. Overall bad evs are worst than bad gas, good evs are around the middle of gas cars for how long they last. Once / if they get better battery tech then evs will just last longer then all gas because of how durable electric motors are. I got electric motors that are over 50 years old. Overall personally only like older cars/ trucks and new evs nothing else makes sense to me.
I have had my EV for over 5 years…. No breaks , no oil changes, one tire change, 2 services one at 2 yr and 4 years at about $250 per service. You are also counting the time waiting and going for oil changes. I don’t know how many Saturdays I wasted waiting for an oil change. About 6% range loss so far. I think you may be overstating the battery replacements and making it sound scary for people who do not drive EVs and are already skeptical and scared.
Teslas at 40-60k miles are having coolant motor seals leaking fluid into the motor and destroying them costing owners thousands!!! In areas where they have a lot of water especially salt water getting by the battery hermetic seals causing the battery packs to go into arc weld fires!!! Yikes!!!!
Don’t forget the cost of insurance is more on BEVs than it is on ICE cars. Tesla body work is notoriously expensive. Not to mention that, in the practical world nearly all your charging is going to be done at home, which means that you have a single supplier for your power. Don’t like the rates? Tough, better move to a new home in a different market. Care to take a guess how many times the (highly regulated) utility has LOWERED the cost of electricity in the past 100 years?
@@richardgodinez8497 In this example they are picking cars with same price, but the Bolt is more like a Corolla. I mean, they are picking cars from different classes. It's like comparing a Tesla to a Camry, The Tesla is a higher class and should be pitted against Lexus. I looked up the prices here in Canada, Corolla is $27K, Bolt is $42K. So it's $15K more expensive. Anyone can twist numbers to what they want to see, but at the moment, I'm an average worker but I still can't afford a new EV car and I certainly won't waste my hard earned money on a used EV that will need a $15K battery soon. I like EV's but just can't afford them... yet.
Note that ICE vehicles consume more gas per mile as they wear out, and burn oil. So kinda like batteries giving less range. All things moving wear out - even YOU 😏
As the video shows its no different from combustion car however with sodium ion batteries entering the market at 77$ per kw that cost goes down to nearly 40% and that assuming that the every battery cell is entirely degraded which in most case is not.
Considering the batteries are warranted for 10 years or 1000000miles I think the value in buying a second hand EV will be significant. The batteries I am referring to are the current blade batteries produced by CATL and BYD the largest battery manufacturers by far. They supply around 80% of all batteries being produced. The batteries in the Tesla Model 3 is supplied by BYD FYI. Not to mention that current battery chemistry and production technology is rapidly evolving to produce even more range, life expectancy and reduced manufacturing cost. EV battery cost is expected to fall by as much as 40% by 2028. I am a mechanic and worked in an engine overhaul shop for 10 years, take it from me, from the very first moment you start an internal combustion it’s reliability and life expectancy has begun decreasing and it’s fate is sealed. Electric motors are astoundingly better than an internal combustion engine in nearly every measure. I love engines they are a marvel of engineering but they are simply inferior to an electric motor. Battery technology is where it’s at and the rapid development of them is exciting to see.
I think the likelyhood of a battery losing that much range at 150,000 miles should have been mentioned here. Tesla's batteries have been holding up really well over the years.
Consider the environmental impact of making a gas vs EV. Then consider that a gas car can be worked on by people with general mechanical experience, but not an EV. And consider the environmental impact of disposal of both. I have no problem with EVs. I just don’t want one. It’s a personal choice everyone should make. I think we all know that the government is pushing EVs very hard and their data might not be the most reliable. I say, be honest with the data and let the market do the rest. Give the climate change mess a rest, and let people decide what’s best for them.
The studies have been done on environmental impact. EVs win over the lifecycle. Gas cars lose because they burn fuel. Technology changes and ppl adapt. Having both in the market brings out competition and innovation.
I have to wonder what cars you are looking at. Tesla has an annual brake inspections and lube, also the bi annual a/c service? Where is this? Why would a gas car have twice the tire rotation cost, and why would you pay for it? Annual brake inspections are $236 alone, A/C service is over $500, drive battery can exceed the cars value. They run thru tires at 3 to 4 times the rate of gas cars. They have battery and inverter coolants. EVs still have lubricant, 12 volt batteries, wipers, air filters. Belts should last 100k these days. EV brake inspections exceed all my ICE maintenance, so do the tire replacement. But this is all moot due to Elon Musk, had realized hydrogen is way better and is switching over, and the EV hype is over.
Easily understandable comparison. However you missed out 1 more tire change on 50K to 100K mile range. If you replace it on 30K, then the next replacement is 60K and 90K (2 replacements). Next will be 120K and 150k (2 replacements) plus battery replacement (big ouch at current price of say 10K USD or more). EV battery warranties have a number of exclusions (due to flood etc) and you maybe out of luck before it expires. Of course the good thing about EV when it reaches 150,000 miles mileage is that it has lesser carbon footprint than an ICE car.
Be realistic on brakes. I regularly see 80,000 miles out of a set of brakes. On my last car, new front discs and pads were $350, all in. Rear was about the same, so $700 Canadian for brakes in 150,000 miles. They were still in a condition to pass the Safety Inspection. That car, by the way, was 34 years old with 400,000 miles. It came off the road due to rust.
As if carbon was a problem, which it isn't. The only significant greenhouse gas is Water Vapor. CO2 isn't significant enough that eliminating it would cool the Earth. A 30% reduction in CO2 would create mass Famine, which appears to be the goal. The only carbon the powers that be really want to reduce is You.
Very unfair comparison. You should’ve compared a hybrid with an EV. Nobody I know debates whether an EV costs less to maintain than a full petrol vehicle. And if you’re replacing an engine or transmission at 150k, that’s just a crappy car (probably a Nissan or Mercedes). This video was literally useless.
There are a good amount of Teslas on original batteries at over 300k miles. And many close to that with nearly 90% of the original capacity. And batteries will continue to drop in price. Put a new battery in when it dies and keep going. The drivetrain is good for 1M miles.
The video did not compare the price of gas to electric. If your power in your electric vehicle at home during the night we get electric prices are cheapest. You’re saving a lot of money per mile on the price of fuel.
And this is in perfect conditions. Factor in nature and real life. And gas will exceed ev in all factors. Taking a vacation somewhere? Im sure you dont wanna stop and wait at multiple superchargers. Towing anything with ev? Watch range drop to about 50% or less. Now.... new gas powered vehicles have planned obscelecence built in. But a real mechanic wont burn that much in repair costs. Especially if the vehicle is taken care of vs running it into the ground.
"Towing anything with ev? Watch range drop to about 50% or less." Gee, when I hook up my travel trailer to my F-150 Ecoboost, the fuel economy drops from 21 mpg to 9 mpg -- that also is over 50%. The mpg drop for an EV vs. an ICE vehicle when towing is about the same due to physics, but theproblem is the much shorter initial range of the EV.
I haven’t read too much about people replacing batteries at 150,000 miles. Old Tesla batteries seem to be good for 300,000 from what I’ve read. Plus in ten years, battery costs should be at least half of what they are now.
This video is embarrassing to watch. Tesla themselves found their batteries maintain 88% after 200k miles, and Teslas start with way more range than the Nissan Leaf this video picks. The average American driving 13.5k a year and owning the car for the average amount of time (12.5years) only hits 168k, not even close to 200k, and even if they did, the battery is still fine The director of this video avoided the elephant in the room: Tesla. And they did since it makes EVs a no brainer.
@@ItsCrap97 I’m in Miami. Average 22k per year 🥴 He is also not taking into account that Tesla does their testing under ideal circumstances, but the batteries suffer way more in extreme climates. I’ve seen plenty of battery failure here in South Florida for example.
They didn’t talk about when it gets hit and takes months to repair like the rivian 6 months and barely anyone works on them woahh rent a car for that long will hit you in your pockets hard and those ev tire cost a grip more than standard tires
@Ron Warrwick Its not that difficult to do the actual overhaul yourself, get the multimeter out and start checking some 8000 cells, doing the recovery charging from dead might be an issue for some home chargers
EV is trash,. the battery will die much sooner if you do fast charging which literary no one talked about that even in this video,. fast charging heat up the battery and the battery capacity will be reduced and die faster.. EV is absolute trash
A better comparison would be a hybrid vs an EV. A Toyota Prius lasts a lot longer than 150,000 miles. 10,000 mile oil change intervals will not get you to 150,000 miles. That will shorten the life of your engine.you also did not factor in the battery being shot !
Wake up mate my 2011 Mazda 6 has never had to have the brake pads renewed the tyres last for over 60,000kms and the filters well minimal replacement items. Two new batteries $450 insurance costs - NOT mentioned in your video EV's are so expensive to insure - WHEN you can find an insurance company to take you on - my Mazda is around $1000 per year. After owning my car since 2011 and 167,000kms still going strong on it's second set of tyres and I am no slouch!! Oh yes and I have no problems finding a mechanic to do my car's servicing.
But lets say you pay $10,000 for a New Battery. Youre good for another 150,000 miles roughly. Where as in a Gas car at 150,000 miles you might need a new transmission or something else expensive. And No one speaks on it but you may need a new Engine after 200,000 miles. That could be $5,000 - $10,000 so they keep you paying the same amount just when you pay is the difference.
The conclusion is fairly poor. Go in to depth on how often transmission, engine, turbos etc last and replacement cost. Then take into account probability of failure and cost and give us a risk based approach. Not a cheap one liner 'combustion can have problems or their own'. We're trying to make informed decisions here. That ending was useless.
Two conserns. If the car cost 2x as much to buy up front is that a savings or a loss over all. 2nd phone battery and chargers change quickly i worry abit about the car being the old styal battery and not being charge able at the upgraded station when the inabital advances come. Added idea personal one person bike lane like cars electric camuters and gas being your work hores bigger car for bad weather,jobs, and trips.
I did many hours of research on Prius this week: very important to clean the battery fan air filter regularly to extend battery life! The other good news is that hybrid battery prices have come down and there’s a new niche of mechanics installing rebuilt batteries at reasonable cost.
A new battery for a Toyota Venza, (hybrid) is around $3,000 currently, and has a 10 year 150,000 mile warranty. If your Tesla battery goes bad under warranty, the replacement is a refurbished battery, and if out of warranty a new battery costs close to $16,000 currently. A 10 year old Tesla will end up totaled if the battery goes bad, plus wouldn't there be an extra cost of hazardous waste disposal of the battery?
If you consider an oil change is most all you'll need to get done that isn't part of an ev. For close to the first 5 years. Some anti freeze as well but many ev do use it too. Other then that, there isn't a ton of things.
I think it’s also worth noting that we’ve been mastering petrol engines much longer than EVs in terms of large scale production so EV batteries are only getting better and better. They will hypothetically be able to outlast the car soon with new battery chemistries. That being said, if you want to buy a great cheap reliable car that won’t require much maintenance you should still buy a Toyota. If you want to be an EV adopter and get that great acceleration at a normal price, but more expensive than a Toyota Corolla, get an EV like an LFP rear wheel drive Tesla Model 3. That should last you a very long time assuming you are doing the basics of battery maintenance (not letting the battery sit at too low a state of charge for too long). Otherwise just wait and the cost of batteries will reduce, the battery degradation will be improved, the battery life will improve, and the source of electricity will become more sustainable. By then, it will be silly not to consider daily driving an EV.
It’s all wrong, like a telsa they use 18,19, 20. “ tires special sizes they cost 235- 389 each and because of regen braking or Turing the motor that had to turn to charge so act like brakes the car so tires wear very fast average 25 - 35 k miles . And ev car has no spare tire. They rather has a trunk than a spear, AAA only put on your spare, so you have to pay for a tow to the tire shop if you get a flat. 300-550 buck and waste 6 hr . How can a car not have a spare tire? Beside you can’t find a working and open charger. Welcome to a high stress life , and if you have a flast flood and water touches the floor board your life saving ev battery will swell up and catch fire. And insurance don’t cover that. Natural disaster.
The old man in me perfer ICE but... I have an ebike. I know I'd perfer the ebike over a combustible engine on it. So I'm in process of retraining my brain. 😊
EVs make sense as long as they're under warranty Once they're out of warranty or near the end of warranty you start getting hit with massive repair bills because nobody but the dealership works on them because of the batteries. And when you go to trade in or sale your EV, you quickly realize they are almost completely and utterly worthless and you have absolutely no equity in them because their battery is such a massive liability. Plus they just don't age well. A lot of gas cars can run decades just because they don't get high mileage use. An EV battery degrades regardless of use.
Wait till you have to replace catalytic converter- oxygen sensor and have to deal with check engine craziness 😂😂 on gas car I’m assuming electric won’t need them
When the battery goes then trade it in idk why it’s a big deal. There’s a little percentage of people that keep their car longer than three years anyways.
Less than 1% of evs have needed a high voltage battery replacement. I expect over time that number will go up . But they either fail very early , or they last a really long time .
I find that It is incorrect on the Evie Battery problems stwrite around 60 to 70000 miles I know I bought one Add battery issues then it burned out because of the battery Maintenance on the EV is 3 times as much as it would be for a gas I know they Because mine was costing me a fortune it was a Tesla
Most old EV battery even after 150K degrade less than 15% and your chance is slim it needs a new battery replacement. So many car owner trade in their car every 5 years.
And so many car owners can't afford to replace a car every 5. So then you're passing on the cost of replacement batteries to the next owner, who is least likely to afford it.
Considering they were insufficient in range to begin with and at highway speeds never get the advertised range, not even counting cold weather, 15% degradation is a catastrophe. Not to mention the 20%to 80% in a futile attempt to stave off battery degradation. If I sold an ICE vehicle as advertised with a 20 gallon tank but warn it would be damaged if you used more than 16 gallons of the tank? LOL
I believe they don't have anymore brain cells because they put their faces into exhaust fumes and took a big whiff then decided to to complain. I don't think people have any smarts left to rebuild their cars but hold onto your knowledge of engine building, it WILL be useful when they struggle to get past paywall subscriptions for power steering. :)
Scumbaggery. Yes regen braking but also heavier. Also, the Camry is a bigger car as they said. They couldn't take Volvo or any other make that makes the exact same model of car in both BEV and ICE. Scumbaggery.
I'll keep my gas. I'm not paying 10k for a battery that would be 20k already on the jeep. i own that's 250k miles. It's already a new car at that point, and the jeep starts and drives just fine
A fairer comparison would be Corolla versus bolt. The higher upfront price of the vehicle should be included with the car decision, also if the car was financed, that higher price is increased due to paying for interest of the hire price.
Rented a Tesla Model 3 in LA for a few days. Incredible car with incredible tech. It really does feel like your driving in the future. The system is impressive and the acceleration pulls you into the seat. And charging the car at a supercharger for $10 is nice on the wallet. I’m a F150 owner and was a little disappointed when I had to return the car. I feel everyone should get behind the wheel of one before making an assumption on EVs - the tech really has come along ways.
I did the same in Germany. Rented a Model Y. I loved it. But the range was very poor. I went from 92-28 % SOC in 91 miles. Also, using a fast charger to charge it back to over 90soc cost 50-60 Euros. About 75 dollars. Would charge it back over 90SOC in a little over an hour. So. Drive an hour, charge an hour. Also I would lose 1-2 percent SOC over night while parked. Ambient Temp at night was around 5-10 C.
Which led Hertz to announce in January that they were selling off 20,000 of their EVs (at a loss of $245 million!!) due to high repair costs (especially Teslas), and because very few people want to rent an EV. They will be buying gas powered vehicle to replace the EVs
I'm 49 years old, and I do my own maintenance most of the time. I just prefer gas power still. Cost can be kept down with DIY, and understanding the older systems just feels better. An Eav would need a whole new set of tools,Know how, and I'm just too old
Sodium ion batteries are coming soon with really high energy (mileage) and higher number of charge cycles and safety with a significantly lower price tag. Future is clearly for EV. Given the electrical power infrastructure is established enough to keep up. Also EVs keep going down in cost. Thanks for the great video team!❤
Agree i shop around for a mechanic. Most maintenance on ICE I do myself. I have lifetime brake pads from Autozone so I replace them in 1/2 hour. Oil changes cost $50 at jiffylube. EVS can be carostrophic to have repaired. You cant shop around for EV repairs because you go thru tesla or the warranty is gone.
I had a 96 Pontiac Grand Am I parked it over 300,000 miles I don’t remember changing any belts. Brakes on the other hand about every 30,000 miles. With the structural battery packs on the model Y I believe it is not replaceable at all the car becomes scrap. Please correct me if I’m wrong?
Tesla battery warranties may be 100k miles but Tesla batteries can go 250,000 or more. There are not too many data points since Tesla didn’t achieve mass production until 2018 or so, but Model S/X taxis report 400-500k miles. And that’s with lithium-nickel-manganese-cobalt-aluminum chemistry. The newer LFP (lithium-iron-phosphate) chemistries show DOUBLE life testing in the lab. They are expected to last 1 million miles - the car will wear out first! Contrary to the case of a battery powered flashlight, in the future you may keep the battery and replace the car instead.
In addition to the battery, aren't the electronic and electrical components also an issue for the EV? I know ICE cars are also becoming technically infused, but the the EV is stillore complex. Also, I can't exactly find a trusted mechanic who would charge me reasonable prices to fix my EV, unlike my ICE car.
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EVs have a reputation for being easier to maintain than a gas-powered car. But is that the truth? We check it out. Read our full article here: www.carmax.com/articles/electric-car-maintenance
340$ for a cabin filter?? ..I replaced mine for 29$ ..seriously.
You are absolutely correct. A Fram cabin filter only costs about $30 and is very easy to replace.
I was just about to comment this lol
311$ in taxes and fees
Same here -- about $25 for my Mach-E
With gas vehicles, you can shop around for a mechanic. There are only a few EV shops and even minor work requires a specially-trained software guy with specialized tools. Which do you think costs more?
The EV only needed cabin air filters and tires changed up to 150,000 and more realistically they won’t need any major maintenance or battery replacement for at least 2-300,000 miles. So why are you shopping around for techs? They don’t need tuneups. They don’t need smog checks. They don’t need oil changes or replacement parts. I think people just assume they’re a bad deal based on what they’re used to from dealing with gas powered cars.
@@craigcampbell1843 they require alot more tires and the battery depending how it was made and there you live and a bunch of other things will degrade much faster ill still stick with my 5.9 cummins and outlast any ev
@@infernoking7504it literally has less moving parts. No exhaust, no belts, no, no transmission, no spark plugs, no misfires, the only thing that stays the same is the control arms and looking RUclips videos can still get you by.
@@infernoking7504more EVs, tire companies make cheaper better tires, more EVs, better range+longevity down the line.
@@jesualdocortez6426 ik it has less moving parts electric motors are amazing its the batterys and miles of copper wire and a electrical degree to fix anything major is what I have a issue with also there part of planned obsolescence so yeah.
Do this same thing, but have the numbers reflect a person who does their own car work, in their own driveway. It depends on exactly what ICE car you get, as to when the transmission will need to be replaced, and so on. My Toyota, is over 170,000 miles, with no transmission issues, and the only mechanical parts replaced being the alternator.
Insurance costs installing at home charger $2000:00, waiting time while charging turning an 8 hr journey into a 12 hr journey add another $400.00 each way per trip. Depreciation @ 40% p/a
To make a more appropriate comparison you needed to include total cost of fuel in this. The battery replacement might not look so bad once you have factored that in.
Once everything factored in a ev that is 5 k more cost about the same as a gas car if you replace the battery at 150k miles. But if you have someone that doesn't drive much in the house and another that drives a lot you can rotate the new cars so the new one goes to the drive a lot group and the not drive much goes to other getting full life on car without battery replacement.
Response from Copilot:
To compare the costs of refueling a gas-powered car versus charging an electric car over 150,000 miles, we’ll need to consider the average fuel economy of the vehicles and the current prices for gas and electricity.
For a gas-powered car, let’s assume an average fuel economy of 30 miles per gallon (MPG). If you drive 150,000 miles, you would need approximately 5,000 gallons of gas. With a gas price of $3.75 per gallon, the total cost would be $18,7501.
For an electric car, assuming an average efficiency of 3.5 miles per kilowatt-hour (kWh) and an electricity price of 17.2 pence per kWh (which is about $0.22 USD per kWh), to travel 150,000 miles would cost around $5,142.862.
So, in this scenario, the electric car is significantly cheaper to run over 150,000 miles compared to the gas-powered car. Keep in mind that these are estimates and actual costs can vary based on the specific vehicle model, driving conditions, and changes in fuel prices. Additionally, this comparison only considers fuel and electricity costs and does not take into account other factors such as maintenance or insurance.
When I had my 2019 mustang I looked at the cost of replacing the motor. It’s $14,580 new and that doesn’t include shipping, installation and then all the setup. Replacing a battery is very close to the same cost as replacing a motor. Even the eco boost is nearly $7k just for the motor. And yes you can get a used motor for cheaper. But looking at real cost Apples to Apple new replacement it’s very close to the same cost for both.
But how often does anyone replace a motor... I'm 77 and I've never replaced one despite keeping cars for 10+ years!
@@majac3356 Exactly the same as a battery. The chances of anyone in either needing a change either is rare. I beat the crap out of my 93, mustang GT, 2015 EcoBoost Mustang that was Modified and my 2019 GT which was also modified, now 3 Mach E later still have not had to Replace anything that large. Again its rare My 2021 MME cost me $25 for its maintenance, 2022 Cost the same and I suspect my 2023 will be in the say range.
@@SerendipitousProducts technically you have to replace it if you needed a bigger range because of range loss resulting in people replacing battery. But I bet like my house hold versus others some person drives only like 50 miles a week while the other will drive 250+ miles a week so you can play the rotate car game every time you all get a new car so not having to replace battery.
@@richardmenz3257 degradation isn’t like you think I still get 94% of my battery on my 2016. You don’t just replace a battery.
@@SerendipitousProducts mine was 15 % before replaced, but I had a bolt so may be worst then yours.
We also have to take into consideration that EVs seem to depreciate faster than many similar gas vehicles. That cost of depreciation should be factored in if you're going to resell the vehicle.
It seems that the high priced Tesla Model S and X take a fair depreciation hit, but take a good look at the Model 3 and Y and you won’t find one below $30 used. Also, the depreciation will lower as people figure out the real lifespan of various models of EVs. I am betting a Tesla will last a lot longer than a Chevrolet Bolt. One basic difference is Tesla cars and SUVs use Aluminum bodies, where Chevy Bolts are stamped steel as usual.
@@collller comparing a crappy Chinese Brand EV to a Tesla is like comparing a cheap lithograph to an original painting.
This video makes the statement, "studies show that electric vehicles cost less to maintain than their gas-powered counterparts". Precisely which "studies" and which EV models is this referring to? Most EV models that exist today don't have a track record anywhere near long enough to support the statement. Also, the purchase price of EV's (even minus government rebates) is so exorbitant vs gas powered cars that the total cost of owning an EV is higher.
True. This video was such BS
Nissan Leaf was released in 2013. Mitsubishi had a mass produced EV on the market back in 2008 or 2009. That's a good amount of data to go off I'd have thought. As for the price, they're too expensive from new, however, I've just bought a 2020 Renault Zoe with 13k on the clock for £10800. My 2020 Mazda 2 with 23k on the coock which was involved in an accident had a book price of £9900. After driven both I can say the Zoe is the better deal for a used car if you're not driving more than 180 miles a day.
I currently have a 2022 Honda Accord Sport for $32,000 and I’m leasing it so, I want to replace it, next year, for a 2024 Acura Hybrid or Honda Accord Hybrid.
You gotta do one of these for hybrid as well. Great video btw!
I've been researching cost of ownership between ICE and EVs, and with the help of AI I did a rough estimate from info found online between a Honda Accord(gas & hybrid) and a Tesla Model 3. Assuming that I pay 30k for either vehicle, I found that the Hybrid is slightly cheaper to own than the gas version over the 15 years. It is the cost of insurance and battery replacement that unfortunately kills it for the EVs at the moment.
The gas ends up being around 29-30k cheaper than the Tesla
The Hybrid ends up being around $3k-4k cheaper than the gas
Odd seen many things showing model 3 cheaper over x period of time. My insurance is also only 10 bucks a month more expensive with an EV versus gas so I also wonder if different states charging a super EV premium just because.
Good presentation in ROUTINE SERVICE less maintenance. After the warranty when electronics problems arises, charges for repairs are street time that might give you a heart attack. 😂 Advice is keep your old car until your dying day. 😮
There's people who swear that the battery lasts 500,000 miles or 20 years,whatever comes first.thats if you charge your car at home at 240V.
95% charging is done at night at (mine $0.08)
I was told $20,000 for new battery on some ev battery replacement, and dealership try to weasel out of as many warranty clams,because manufacturers refuse them
Yes 20k is what iv heard for Tesla model 3, mercedes eqs is around 50k LOOOLL EV is garbage
@@robinsooran8188 New gas car computer repairs if it gets faulty is getting insane. Not really the ev fault more of right to repair is dying and evs has loop wholes where they don't have to be as nice as gas cars in that regard. But gas cars are adding more and more tech to try to get around certain repair requirements that was placed on gas cars in the past.
@richardmenz3257 yeahhhh but gas cars last for decades, evs though!!!!! 😆🙌
@@robinsooran8188 old gas cars, but I have notice new cars needing way more repairs then older counter parts. The computer/electronics on these new gas cars has more issues than normal as well. Then you also have to look at which gas cars yes Toyota last forever but chrysler would def die faster then an EV. Overall bad evs are worst than bad gas, good evs are around the middle of gas cars for how long they last. Once / if they get better battery tech then evs will just last longer then all gas because of how durable electric motors are. I got electric motors that are over 50 years old. Overall personally only like older cars/ trucks and new evs nothing else makes sense to me.
I had a 1986 Dodge van that had 325,000 plus miles on the original motor. Replaced trans @ 200k diesels can get much more then that
I have had my EV for over 5 years…. No breaks , no oil changes, one tire change, 2 services one at 2 yr and 4 years at about $250 per service. You are also counting the time waiting and going for oil changes. I don’t know how many Saturdays I wasted waiting for an oil change. About 6% range loss so far. I think you may be overstating the battery replacements and making it sound scary for people who do not drive EVs and are already skeptical and scared.
Teslas at 40-60k miles are having coolant motor seals leaking fluid into the motor and destroying them costing owners thousands!!! In areas where they have a lot of water especially salt water getting by the battery hermetic seals causing the battery packs to go into arc weld fires!!! Yikes!!!!
Don’t forget the cost of insurance is more on BEVs than it is on ICE cars. Tesla body work is notoriously expensive. Not to mention that, in the practical world nearly all your charging is going to be done at home, which means that you have a single supplier for your power. Don’t like the rates? Tough, better move to a new home in a different market. Care to take a guess how many times the (highly regulated) utility has LOWERED the cost of electricity in the past 100 years?
Like any vehicle you purchase, do your research.
WOW, you save $5,000 on driving an EV, but pay $30,000 more up front... lolololol
The cars were the same price 🤦♂️
@@richardgodinez8497 In this example they are picking cars with same price, but the Bolt is more like a Corolla. I mean, they are picking cars from different classes. It's like comparing a Tesla to a Camry, The Tesla is a higher class and should be pitted against Lexus. I looked up the prices here in Canada, Corolla is $27K, Bolt is $42K. So it's $15K more expensive. Anyone can twist numbers to what they want to see, but at the moment, I'm an average worker but I still can't afford a new EV car and I certainly won't waste my hard earned money on a used EV that will need a $15K battery soon. I like EV's but just can't afford them... yet.
Never talked about fuel savings double that easy.
Ev tires wear out faster because of insane acceleration I just can't resit.
To travel long distance . Camry gas for sure
$30 $40 grand for batteries. What are they stupid
Oh yes they don’t have an engine. They have a motor.
Duh, yes!
Note that ICE vehicles consume more gas per mile as they wear out, and burn oil. So kinda like batteries giving less range. All things moving wear out - even YOU 😏
Imagine how hard its gonna be to resell a car like that when the buyer has to consider that in a few years the battery is going to need to be replaced
As the video shows its no different from combustion car however with sodium ion batteries entering the market at 77$ per kw that cost goes down to nearly 40% and that assuming that the every battery cell is entirely degraded which in most case is not.
Considering the batteries are warranted for 10 years or 1000000miles I think the value in buying a second hand EV will be significant. The batteries I am referring to are the current blade batteries produced by CATL and BYD the largest battery manufacturers by far. They supply around 80% of all batteries being produced. The batteries in the Tesla Model 3 is supplied by BYD FYI. Not to mention that current battery chemistry and production technology is rapidly evolving to produce even more range, life expectancy and reduced manufacturing cost. EV battery cost is expected to fall by as much as 40% by 2028. I am a mechanic and worked in an engine overhaul shop for 10 years, take it from me, from the very first moment you start an internal combustion it’s reliability and life expectancy has begun decreasing and it’s fate is sealed. Electric motors are astoundingly better than an internal combustion engine in nearly every measure. I love engines they are a marvel of engineering but they are simply inferior to an electric motor. Battery technology is where it’s at and the rapid development of them is exciting to see.
Try putting a gas car with 150k (!!!) miles (240k kilometers, lol) on the market and see how much you get for it
@@BillyBoblovesthedirtjust purchased an ICE vehicle and already miss the insane pick up speeds EVs provide off the start
I think the likelyhood of a battery losing that much range at 150,000 miles should have been mentioned here. Tesla's batteries have been holding up really well over the years.
Yep -- it looks like modern EV batteries that have not been abused will outlast the rest of the car, i.e. 250-300K miles or more.
Consider the environmental impact of making a gas vs EV. Then consider that a gas car can be worked on by people with general mechanical experience, but not an EV. And consider the environmental impact of disposal of both.
I have no problem with EVs. I just don’t want one. It’s a personal choice everyone should make. I think we all know that the government is pushing EVs very hard and their data might not be the most reliable. I say, be honest with the data and let the market do the rest. Give the climate change mess a rest, and let people decide what’s best for them.
The studies have been done on environmental impact. EVs win over the lifecycle. Gas cars lose because they burn fuel. Technology changes and ppl adapt. Having both in the market brings out competition and innovation.
I have to wonder what cars you are looking at. Tesla has an annual brake inspections and lube, also the bi annual a/c service? Where is this? Why would a gas car have twice the tire rotation cost, and why would you pay for it? Annual brake inspections are $236 alone, A/C service is over $500, drive battery can exceed the cars value. They run thru tires at 3 to 4 times the rate of gas cars. They have battery and inverter coolants. EVs still have lubricant, 12 volt batteries, wipers, air filters. Belts should last 100k these days. EV brake inspections exceed all my ICE maintenance, so do the tire replacement. But this is all moot due to Elon Musk, had realized hydrogen is way better and is switching over, and the EV hype is over.
Easily understandable comparison. However you missed out 1 more tire change on 50K to 100K mile range. If you replace it on 30K, then the next replacement is 60K and 90K (2 replacements). Next will be 120K and 150k (2 replacements) plus battery replacement (big ouch at current price of say 10K USD or more). EV battery warranties have a number of exclusions (due to flood etc) and you maybe out of luck before it expires. Of course the good thing about EV when it reaches 150,000 miles mileage is that it has lesser carbon footprint than an ICE car.
Battery only warranted to 70% of capacity. If it went to 71% of capacity in year ONE, you pay if you want it replaced.
Hyundai has seen cars with failed batteries. They are great at finding exclusions, and the batteries are quoted at $60,000.00!
Be realistic on brakes. I regularly see 80,000 miles out of a set of brakes. On my last car, new front discs and pads were $350, all in. Rear was about the same, so $700 Canadian for brakes in 150,000 miles. They were still in a condition to pass the Safety Inspection. That car, by the way, was 34 years old with 400,000 miles. It came off the road due to rust.
As if carbon was a problem, which it isn't. The only significant greenhouse gas is Water Vapor. CO2 isn't significant enough that eliminating it would cool the Earth. A 30% reduction in CO2 would create mass Famine, which appears to be the goal. The only carbon the powers that be really want to reduce is You.
The EV batteries are mined by slaves in the Congo. They suffer and die for slave wages.
Very unfair comparison. You should’ve compared a hybrid with an EV. Nobody I know debates whether an EV costs less to maintain than a full petrol vehicle. And if you’re replacing an engine or transmission at 150k, that’s just a crappy car (probably a Nissan or Mercedes). This video was literally useless.
I’ll stick with Toyota any day! Even the hybrid which I’ve owned! Any day of the week! No questions and no reservations or hesitation!
Toyota lost me in 2008. Never again.
There are a good amount of Teslas on original batteries at over 300k miles. And many close to that with nearly 90% of the original capacity. And batteries will continue to drop in price. Put a new battery in when it dies and keep going. The drivetrain is good for 1M miles.
The video did not compare the price of gas to electric. If your power in your electric vehicle at home during the night we get electric prices are cheapest. You’re saving a lot of money per mile on the price of fuel.
This is overproduced and under researched. Yikes
I think more time will tell. I'm afraid that in the future, the choices will be limited anyway. I'll keep what I have. I'm happy with gas
Who keeps a car for 10 years? I don’t!
I do!
And this is in perfect conditions. Factor in nature and real life. And gas will exceed ev in all factors. Taking a vacation somewhere? Im sure you dont wanna stop and wait at multiple superchargers.
Towing anything with ev? Watch range drop to about 50% or less.
Now.... new gas powered vehicles have planned obscelecence built in. But a real mechanic wont burn that much in repair costs. Especially if the vehicle is taken care of vs running it into the ground.
"Towing anything with ev? Watch range drop to about 50% or less." Gee, when I hook up my travel trailer to my F-150 Ecoboost, the fuel economy drops from 21 mpg to 9 mpg -- that also is over 50%. The mpg drop for an EV vs. an ICE vehicle when towing is about the same due to physics, but theproblem is the much shorter initial range of the EV.
My Model 3 maintenance is much lower. Just set of new tires and a front windshield replacement from a rock chip.
In florida i pay $750 for 6 months insurance on lexus nx hybrid and got lowest quote of $1800 for 6 months on model y. Thats your answer
Wow mine is 775 for 6 months for the Tesla.
as expected a couple of hipsters with little to no real world experience
I haven’t read too much about people replacing batteries at 150,000 miles. Old Tesla batteries seem to be good for 300,000 from what I’ve read. Plus in ten years, battery costs should be at least half of what they are now.
This video is embarrassing to watch.
Tesla themselves found their batteries maintain 88% after 200k miles, and Teslas start with way more range than the Nissan Leaf this video picks.
The average American driving 13.5k a year and owning the car for the average amount of time (12.5years) only hits 168k, not even close to 200k, and even if they did, the battery is still fine
The director of this video avoided the elephant in the room: Tesla. And they did since it makes EVs a no brainer.
@@TankaFrankBro idk what state youre from but ive lived in Florida amd Texas and people put way more mileage than that
@@ItsCrap97 I’m in Miami. Average 22k per year 🥴
He is also not taking into account that Tesla does their testing under ideal circumstances, but the batteries suffer way more in extreme climates. I’ve seen plenty of battery failure here in South Florida for example.
They didn’t talk about when it gets hit and takes months to repair like the rivian 6 months and barely anyone works on them woahh rent a car for that long will hit you in your pockets hard and those ev tire cost a grip more than standard tires
@Ron Warrwick Its not that difficult to do the actual overhaul yourself, get the multimeter out and start checking some 8000 cells, doing the recovery charging from dead might be an issue for some home chargers
EV is trash,. the battery will die much sooner if you do fast charging which literary no one talked about that even in this video,. fast charging heat up the battery and the battery capacity will be reduced and die faster.. EV is absolute trash
Only idiots fast charge all the time, lol. When you use any vehicle properly, you can have a car that lasts.
@richardgodinez8497 make no sense to have a vehicle that needs hours for charging!.. ev is trash, period
I have a 2013 fusion, I haven't spent your "estimated" repairs. 220k miles
Tire rotation shouldn’t be a cost. Those are free services in places like Discount Tire.
A better comparison would be a hybrid vs an EV. A Toyota Prius lasts a lot longer than 150,000 miles. 10,000 mile oil change intervals will not get you to 150,000 miles. That will shorten the life of your engine.you also did not factor in the battery being shot !
258 miles at full capacity??? That’s terrible I need a gas car
Wake up mate my 2011 Mazda 6 has never had to have the brake pads renewed the tyres last for over 60,000kms and the filters well minimal replacement items. Two new batteries $450 insurance costs - NOT mentioned in your video EV's are so expensive to insure - WHEN you can find an insurance company to take you on - my Mazda is around $1000 per year. After owning my car since 2011 and 167,000kms still going strong on it's second set of tyres and I am no slouch!! Oh yes and I have no problems finding a mechanic to do my car's servicing.
But lets say you pay $10,000 for a New Battery. Youre good for another 150,000 miles roughly. Where as in a Gas car at 150,000 miles you might need a new transmission or something else expensive. And No one speaks on it but you may need a new Engine after 200,000 miles. That could be $5,000 - $10,000 so they keep you paying the same amount just when you pay is the difference.
EV tires does not wear as fast as the video shows. My model Y had still his factory tires on yellow at 65k. In 4 years. Moderate use.
I find that a lot of Tesla owners are like ICE drivers that never change their oil. (I drive a Tesla)
The conclusion is fairly poor. Go in to depth on how often transmission, engine, turbos etc last and replacement cost. Then take into account probability of failure and cost and give us a risk based approach. Not a cheap one liner 'combustion can have problems or their own'. We're trying to make informed decisions here. That ending was useless.
Two conserns. If the car cost 2x as much to buy up front is that a savings or a loss over all. 2nd phone battery and chargers change quickly i worry abit about the car being the old styal battery and not being charge able at the upgraded station when the inabital advances come. Added idea personal one person bike lane like cars electric camuters and gas being your work hores bigger car for bad weather,jobs, and trips.
I did many hours of research on Prius this week: very important to clean the battery fan air filter regularly to extend battery life! The other good news is that hybrid battery prices have come down and there’s a new niche of mechanics installing rebuilt batteries at reasonable cost.
A new battery for a Toyota Venza, (hybrid) is around $3,000 currently, and has a 10 year 150,000 mile warranty. If your Tesla battery goes bad under warranty, the replacement is a refurbished battery, and if out of warranty a new battery costs close to $16,000 currently. A 10 year old Tesla will end up totaled if the battery goes bad, plus wouldn't there be an extra cost of hazardous waste disposal of the battery?
Hyundai Canada is charging $60,000.00 to replace batteries, and they are experts at denying warranty claims.
If you consider an oil change is most all you'll need to get done that isn't part of an ev. For close to the first 5 years. Some anti freeze as well but many ev do use it too. Other then that, there isn't a ton of things.
I think it’s also worth noting that we’ve been mastering petrol engines much longer than EVs in terms of large scale production so EV batteries are only getting better and better. They will hypothetically be able to outlast the car soon with new battery chemistries. That being said, if you want to buy a great cheap reliable car that won’t require much maintenance you should still buy a Toyota. If you want to be an EV adopter and get that great acceleration at a normal price, but more expensive than a Toyota Corolla, get an EV like an LFP rear wheel drive Tesla Model 3. That should last you a very long time assuming you are doing the basics of battery maintenance (not letting the battery sit at too low a state of charge for too long). Otherwise just wait and the cost of batteries will reduce, the battery degradation will be improved, the battery life will improve, and the source of electricity will become more sustainable. By then, it will be silly not to consider daily driving an EV.
It’s all wrong, like a telsa they use 18,19, 20. “ tires special sizes they cost 235- 389 each and because of regen braking or Turing the motor that had to turn to charge so act like brakes the car so tires wear very fast average 25 - 35 k miles . And ev car has no spare tire. They rather has a trunk than a spear, AAA only put on your spare, so you have to pay for a tow to the tire shop if you get a flat. 300-550 buck and waste 6 hr . How can a car not have a spare tire? Beside you can’t find a working and open charger. Welcome to a high stress life , and if you have a flast flood and water touches the floor board your life saving ev battery will swell up and catch fire. And insurance don’t cover that. Natural disaster.
The old man in me perfer ICE but... I have an ebike.
I know I'd perfer the ebike over a combustible engine on it. So I'm in process of retraining my brain. 😊
EVs make sense as long as they're under warranty
Once they're out of warranty or near the end of warranty you start getting hit with massive repair bills because nobody but the dealership works on them because of the batteries. And when you go to trade in or sale your EV, you quickly realize they are almost completely and utterly worthless and you have absolutely no equity in them because their battery is such a massive liability.
Plus they just don't age well. A lot of gas cars can run decades just because they don't get high mileage use. An EV battery degrades regardless of use.
Cabin air filter $255? Wt????
Wait till you have to replace catalytic converter- oxygen sensor and have to deal with check engine craziness 😂😂 on gas car I’m assuming electric won’t need them
When the battery goes then trade it in idk why it’s a big deal. There’s a little percentage of people that keep their car longer than three years anyways.
Less than 1% of evs have needed a high voltage battery replacement. I expect over time that number will go up . But they either fail very early , or they last a really long time .
I find that It is incorrect on the Evie Battery problems stwrite around 60 to 70000 miles I know I bought one Add battery issues then it burned out because of the battery Maintenance on the EV is 3 times as much as it would be for a gas I know they Because mine was costing me a fortune it was a Tesla
Let's talk about giving your car up for the day for those oil changes 1 or more times a year. Enjoy the bus.
Pretty close if you don’t include barge of 300 bucks a month on fuel savings lol
Replacing batteries is a "personal decision"? EV batteries outlast the car: 200k-300k miles or more.
In Africa we don’t buy tires for 2000$ at most 4 sets might cost you 100$ so ev still wins for me here
Most old EV battery even after 150K degrade less than 15% and your chance is slim it needs a new battery replacement. So many car owner trade in their car every 5 years.
And so many car owners can't afford to replace a car every 5. So then you're passing on the cost of replacement batteries to the next owner, who is least likely to afford it.
Considering they were insufficient in range to begin with and at highway speeds never get the advertised range, not even counting cold weather, 15% degradation is a catastrophe. Not to mention the 20%to 80% in a futile attempt to stave off battery degradation. If I sold an ICE vehicle as advertised with a 20 gallon tank but warn it would be damaged if you used more than 16 gallons of the tank? LOL
Dean, uneducated talk
Weighing more? A Tesla model 3 weighs the same as BMW M3. So not all are heavier so cannot use that as a general guide.
What about the cost to insure for both?
I pay 200 for full coverage insurance, 2022 tesla model 3 long-range
EV have problem with resale value due to next owner have to worry about battery replacement cost.
Well, sense none have been on the road 10 years yet it is just speculation right.
What car cabin air filter costs $255 to change out?!?! Just get a K&N once and be done with it!!
It is like you made this video in 2000. That in ev advancement is an ICE age ago.
10k for a replacement battery is still cheaper then buying a "new" used car.
It depends you can rebuild a engine and entire car for alot cheaper than rebuilding the battery
I believe they don't have anymore brain cells because they put their faces into exhaust fumes and took a big whiff then decided to to complain. I don't think people have any smarts left to rebuild their cars but hold onto your knowledge of engine building, it WILL be useful when they struggle to get past paywall subscriptions for power steering. :)
Scumbaggery. Yes regen braking but also heavier. Also, the Camry is a bigger car as they said. They couldn't take Volvo or any other make that makes the exact same model of car in both BEV and ICE. Scumbaggery.
Scumbaggery? lol
I'll keep my gas. I'm not paying 10k for a battery that would be 20k already on the jeep. i own that's 250k miles. It's already a new car at that point, and the jeep starts and drives just fine
That’s only if the battery needs replacement. No need to switch over your car if it’s working.
A fairer comparison would be Corolla versus bolt. The higher upfront price of the vehicle should be included with the car decision, also if the car was financed, that higher price is increased due to paying for interest of the hire price.
Wrong! My tesla battery has lost only 2% in 4 years. Don't offer this FUD
Now isn’t the time to buy a electric car wait till they figure out how to charge them most any where the grid can’t charge too many cars
Rented a Tesla Model 3 in LA for a few days. Incredible car with incredible tech. It really does feel like your driving in the future. The system is impressive and the acceleration pulls you into the seat. And charging the car at a supercharger for $10 is nice on the wallet. I’m a F150 owner and was a little disappointed when I had to return the car. I feel everyone should get behind the wheel of one before making an assumption on EVs - the tech really has come along ways.
I did the same in Germany. Rented a Model Y. I loved it. But the range was very poor. I went from 92-28 % SOC in 91 miles. Also, using a fast charger to charge it back to over 90soc cost 50-60 Euros. About 75 dollars. Would charge it back over 90SOC in a little over an hour. So. Drive an hour, charge an hour. Also I would lose 1-2 percent SOC over night while parked. Ambient Temp at night was around 5-10 C.
Buy one and come back here when you need to replace the battery 😂
@@momoneyinvesting not a bad idea, but I’m kind of in the process of replacing the transmission in my petrol vehicle at the moment 😂
@@momoneyinvesting Why buy a 73,000 dollar commuter car?
Driving in the past. Fk Evs😊
add the insurance difference and its probably costs the same lol
The current REAL authority right now would be HERTZ, just on the first year a little over double than a gas power.
Which led Hertz to announce in January that they were selling off 20,000 of their EVs (at a loss of $245 million!!) due to high repair costs (especially Teslas), and because very few people want to rent an EV.
They will be buying gas powered vehicle to replace the EVs
Does the cost of replacement battery also include the cost of labour?
I'm 49 years old, and I do my own maintenance most of the time. I just prefer gas power still. Cost can be kept down with DIY, and understanding the older systems just feels better. An Eav would need a whole new set of tools,Know how, and I'm just too old
Almost no maintenance requires almost no tools. No tuneups no smog checks no oil changes or replacement parts.
No the EV is like iPhone soon as the warranty expires is garbage
there are now refurbished battery packs for half the price
1000$ for tyre change are you nuts?)
My cousin has a tesla and I have a honda. We compare costs and the EV cost is much higher.
new cars or one is used. Having a used car Is way cheaper then new that is obvious.
What about nuclear?
Cool idea. Run em on steam power!👍
Sodium ion batteries are coming soon with really high energy (mileage) and higher number of charge cycles and safety with a significantly lower price tag. Future is clearly for EV. Given the electrical power infrastructure is established enough to keep up. Also EVs keep going down in cost. Thanks for the great video team!❤
Agree i shop around for a mechanic. Most maintenance on ICE I do myself. I have lifetime brake pads from Autozone so I replace them in 1/2 hour. Oil changes cost $50 at jiffylube. EVS can be carostrophic to have repaired. You cant shop around for EV repairs because you go thru tesla or the warranty is gone.
I had a 96 Pontiac Grand Am I parked it over 300,000 miles I don’t remember changing any belts. Brakes on the other hand about every 30,000 miles.
With the structural battery packs on the model Y I believe it is not replaceable at all the car becomes scrap. Please correct me if I’m wrong?
sorry for the late comment, but yes. They can be removable and replaceable.
Tesla battery warranties may be 100k miles but Tesla batteries can go 250,000 or more. There are not too many data points since Tesla didn’t achieve mass production until 2018 or so, but Model S/X taxis report 400-500k miles. And that’s with lithium-nickel-manganese-cobalt-aluminum chemistry. The newer LFP (lithium-iron-phosphate) chemistries show DOUBLE life testing in the lab. They are expected to last 1 million miles - the car will wear out first! Contrary to the case of a battery powered flashlight, in the future you may keep the battery and replace the car instead.
So including the battery costs for electric and major repairs for gas, which is more expensive?
In addition to the battery, aren't the electronic and electrical components also an issue for the EV? I know ICE cars are also becoming technically infused, but the the EV is stillore complex. Also, I can't exactly find a trusted mechanic who would charge me reasonable prices to fix my EV, unlike my ICE car.
Plus gas vs electric plug in cost
After ten years the car is worth next to nothing