PS5 Firmware Beta 2.0 Tested: M.2 SSD Storage Upgrade vs. PS5 Internal Drive Loading Time Tests!
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- Опубликовано: 6 авг 2021
- At last, we can finally break through the 667GB limit of PS5's stock internal drive - thanks to a new system firmware beta 2.0-04.00.00 that unlocks the console's M.2 expansion bay. Equipped with a Samsung 980 Pro M.2 SSD, we investigate how such an expansion runs native PS5 apps like Ratchet and Clank - and how it fares across loading and transfer tests too.
Samsung 980 Pro SSD used in our testing
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Its great to see Richard “In The Here And Now” Leadbetter, here and now.
"Change for the better
Hit it then dead her
That's my vendetta
Richard Leadbetter" - Star67 by Drake.
Whenever Richard appears, I just think how 'Bespoke' he is.
Linus used “bespoke” in the steam deck video lol
@@manuel0578 But has he used 'in the here and now'? 😏
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Done and dusted
Next gen bespokeness
Thanks mate. Looking forward to the next storage video with all the different SSDs tested 👍
OMG Karl ??? :))
@@yogeshkandare3214 🤦🏻♂️
You have an Xbox Series X and now you're getting a PS5? Awesome
Karl, what are you doing on DF channel? Hope your visa issue got resolved.
@@ca9inec0mic58 na, my nephew has a PS5, but I just like to follow all gaming consoles so I can play their exclusives too.
I'd love to get a comparison video with other drives of similar spends and slower speeds. Great work as always!
Now I can download Knack as many times as I can.
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Yes finally been waiting for DF's tests
I'm so glad digital foundary does such tests so well and covers near all bases, it's great for consumers.
*Foundry
Thanks for both the info and hard work with the tests so we don't have to look else where. Keep up the good work.
The video I've been waiting for! ❤️
Now your PS4 games can load 2 seconds quicker.
Fantastic
I appreciate all the work that went into this video. Thanks DF!
This is great information and I like how the tested the Xbox Series X Seagate SSD in the mix. Richard you did an amazing job nothing but respect.
Super informative Rich, Thank you.
Respect to DF! The amount of times they had to shift apps (and the SSD) back and forth for these tests must have been exhausting.
Really?multiple ps5's .............
I think they got multiple PS5s, probably one each.
Just a guess though.
@@jonteguy Richard mentioned having both disc version and digital version ps5 for extra storage back when there was no patch for external storage
@@MrBandaforce yea that sounded super annoying, like he had to get a whole other ps5 so he can enough space to test games
As if it's not literally their jobs lol
Rich made a good point , the external ssd does not have to contend with OS process accesses.
So true i didnt think about that since now and thats actually really good, will use the m2 space then primarly for games as soon as i get a ssd
Makes sense since a lot of people say PC's should ideally have separate SSD's for Windows OS and actual games for PC. Guess it would apply to the PS5 as well.
Would really like to see a test with a clean OS install with everything else stored on the added ssd slot vs a ps5 with a full internal storage and also using an added ssd.
INDEED & I'm All For spreading load to improve performance & longevity - which is why I HOPE Sony gives the PS5 the ability to AUTOMATICALLY save Capture Data to external HDDs... >.>
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Great technical video, as always. Covers everything!
Brilliant analysis! As always. Appreciate so much what you gentlemen do :)
Been waiting for this! Even though I personally don't need more storage on my PS5, I am enjoying watching the coverage of the new SSD slot
Finally it´s possible to extend the storage with highspeed solutions. I have some room left on the internal storage but options are always great and the game library get´s bigger and bigger over time. Now I wait for prices to come down.
How convenient you tested the exact drive I have! thank you!
This makes me so excited for the future of this console... being given a bare minimum to essentially be limited by bandwidth of pcie x4 is wild... Awesome video!
I subscribe for Richard's bespoke, pristine quality hand motions.
The heatsink vs. no heatsink deltas are almost surely only run to run variance. Thermal throttling is a go / no go thing, and if the drive throttles, you’d see a very large difference in times since performance would fall significantly for several seconds. Also, the Samsung drives have an effective heat spreading copper layer in their labels. The only time you would have risked throttling in that testing would have been when moving games to the drive (power consumption is highest while writing).
Thanks for the tests! Will try the SN850 once 2.0 is out
Amazing work from the team here
Would love a second video with the sn850 and maybe talking about heat problems, throtteling and the question of leaving the flap of the m.2 open or not (airflow problems...?!?).
Looks like the best move is to set the internal ssd as the default install location then when its full copy games over to the m.2 ssd since it’s faster to copy from internal ssd to the m.2.
Depends on the drive u use
I'm using the 2TB Western Digital SN850 M2 SSD drive and it's faster than the Samsung M2 SSD drive
@@Kingtoby1981 they are of the same speeds.
@@playstationnextgenil491 I know but it was a little faster after watching and comparing this video with my speed test at home. It doesn't make sense at all and I'm still scratching my head
People are rarely going to be moving around their data that much between both since they are internal anyway. Either could be the default with the other as backup with such marginal differences. I'd say M.2 as default if the person plays lots of back compat.
Thank you for the thoughtful video. Now to make up my mind on which size I want.
I’ve watched several videos regarding this topic… but I’ve been waiting for DF’s run through specifically before I move forward 👍
Can't believe it took a year for this to be implemented.
Yeah, I'm not quite sure why there was a delay. It's not like they only support 2021 drives or something.
And its so simple for everyone to do🤓
This was likely a strategic wait and see as the market had to catch up.
There weren't many choices in the realm of super fast M.2 drives, as even the 980 PRO didn't soft release until January of this year.
Many of these drives were supposed to release in early to mid 2020, then got summarily delayed once the pandemic hit. Sony likely didn't want to cause a slew of consumer confusion by having the feature day 1, with barely any drives to take advantage of it. Leading to a bunch of people purchasing drives that are way too slow.
Or having the 1 or 2 drives in the market going into hyper-inflation/ a bot buying frenzy. Exactly what is happening with the PS5 right now.
I would love too see the Seagate Firecuda 530, Aorua Gen4 7000s and as previously stated WD SN850.
Thanks for a great view into the internal upgrades!
Awesome Explanation, on point discussion. You guys deserve at least 5M subscribers 💖💖💖
I imagine the heatsink is more for hardware longevity rather than speed (although as said in the video it does seem that it may actually make a small difference to performance).
I’m hoping to see the Firecuda 530 M.2 NVME Gen4 detailed soon. Proclaims to be the fastest read/write speeds of any m.2 Gen4 drives to date
Love these guys man, they help in the decision making process
Cool, cool. Saw the video this morning and Amazon delivered my Samsung 980 Pro drive this afternoon and the heat sink comes in tomorrow. :) Im glad the console drive tech caught up to PC. My current main gaming PC has two Western Digital Black SN850 drives which are almost copy and paste spec as the Samsung 980 Pro's.
While watching this, my GF says "Everything about his guy's voice sounds boring to me". I replied this is why I love his videos. Pure Information at it's finest. Ty m8!
Then your gf must have the personality of a door nail
I hope she’s now your ex-girlfriend. You don’t need someone with bad opinions in your life.
Get rid of her, she's clearly not worth it
She's just wrong for one. His voice is like butter. Further more as you say the information relayed makes it hard to be bored while listening to him. she just doesn't seem to understand what he is talking about thus it is boring. If you need someone to talk fast, Hyped and/or Loud to stay focused and enjoy what they say then there is a good chance that you are just not interested in the source subject.
Fortunately none of that matters and she is entitled to feel as she wants.
Ex GF i hope
Do the same test but with a NVME that doesn’t match PS5 recommended specs, like a 3000mbps card
AFAIK, the system test wouldn't allow you to use it. But who knows.
When the PS5 does the read test, cards below spec are rejected. While it would be fun to see how Ratchet would play on a slower SSD, the machine won't allow you to use it.
@@wetw0rk14180 I did hear insomniac devs actually tried that and got like 15% slower loading in ratchet and clank, which you know is a tad bit more annoying but I don't know if it's immersion breaking
@@khaledm.1476 It breaks the the mechanic though technically. You expect a portal to be instant or near-instant. Adding 15% delay to the already present delay would ruin the effect, illusion, and gimmick. If it was a matter of a load screen it wouldn't be a problem at all and you'd be right, but this would ruin the portal mechanic almost entirely. It would be weird to see such a noticeable lag on visuals. They wouldn't be insync.
I wouldn't even both with that test. We only want to know about the SSDs that do work with the system.
thanks so much for this vid, cant wait to add my WDsn850 to my ps5 soon
Richards video profiles keep getting flatter and flatter. :D
I've been eagerly waiting for this analysis! Really fascinating results. My suggestions for the next video:
1) Try sustained transfer rates for large files (500+ GB). You could transfer five 100 GB games to see if there is a significant slowdown. I imagine having the heatsink would be most beneficial for this.
2) Please include summary graphs! It is hard to mentally keep track of all the numbers when they run by so fast. Making a simple graph in Excel would help people like me see the big picture, and not get lost in all the numbers.
3) Please test 1 TB and 2 TB drives. There are small spec differences with controllers, etc, so it would be useful to know.
4) Any way to test the temperature of the SSD itself, both with and without a heatsink? Judging from the overall results, there is no universal benefit to having a heatsink, at least in terms of pure transfer/read speeds. I'd be curious though if the temps tell a different story. I would pay extra for a heatsink if it really made a difference for longevity, but I don't want to waste money if the Samsung heatspreader sticker is enough.
You guys rock! I'd be curious if the final firmware will make a difference at all.
I have two PS5s and got two 1TB 980 PROs to expand both. I can confirm the initial load up of my 1TB 980 PRO tested in at 5500 MB/s on both systems I upgraded, two different models on two different PS5s.
Also I got a heat sink on Amazon for about $10 on Amazon which fit about the same as the aorus. It should help with longevity over time.
And lower than recommended spec ssd!
DO NOT not use a heatsink, especially if you play for a long time, something will break or burn if you dont lol
Who cares? You'll do this once, I only have an interest in game performance.
Very nice video, many thanks for sharing these analyses! Would love to see, how the firecuda 530 will perform, since its specs are very promising, which is particularly true for the 2/4TB versions. Optionally, would also love to learn, which heatsinks are most suitable.
Given how well the Samsung performed you might find there’s a case of diminishing returns on the extra performance from the Firecuda drive. If the Segate cost more you might just be throwing money away. That said we need to see tests first though to confirm this other wise it’s just me speculating. Personally I’m inclined to get whatever Mark Cerny is using since he obviously knows the system better than anyone. Also since it’s been in the market longer so the WD black might be easier to find on sale.
your content is always the best!! thx for the amazing videos!!
Awesome vid. I am using the 2TB WD SN850. Love it..
I wonder if you really are supposed to re-attach the cover after the SSD was installed? This way, the headsink isn't exposed to the airflow? Wish you had checked the temps as well.
Or you have to because dust?
I guess the PS5 manual should tell about it.
It creates a negative air pressure thus aiding in the cooling
Though speed between with and without heatsink is insignificant, it is still required. Someone on Reddit tested 980 pro too, a heatsink reduced temperature 20 Celsius (from 74 to 50). I hope you test temperature as well.
Have a link, love to read this..?
No biggy if not.
74 to 50 is definitely not possible. Either they screwed up their experiment or they recorded incorrect/erroneous results.
Were they using a thermocouple or IR thermometer? Shininess of materials may affect accuracy when going with IR.
@@tinhoyhu In that thread, he used an infrared thermometer.
Samsung Magician doesn't even warn you until it gets to like 82c. Anandtech had a whole breakdown of temps with their review
How did i never know about this channel until now?!? Got a new sub here
Great video! Thank you!
Console gaming is in such a great place whether you are on ps5 or xbox, so excited to see where it goes..
except the buying it part
would be interested to see the Ratchet & Clank testing compared with and without heatsync. It seems like it should be the most intense workload we could give storage at the moment to see how much we REALLY need that heatsync.
Useful info, thanks
the review I was waiting for
I wonder if the heatsink required is a preemptive measure to when the SSDs might be used much more heavily for streaming.
I remember Cerny talking about streaming in all the assets in the viewport in real-time. Maybe a future technique for the PS5 VR headset?
If rumours are to be believed then the PS5 will use eye tracking to know what to render in at a higher resolution. I assume that would need the ssd to be very fast and be used pretty heavily for that
Copying data to the SSD (i.e. a game) is likely far more intensive than streaming textures. The SSD temperature also depends on many factors including ambient air temperature. You might not use one and be fine. You might use one and have the SSD throttling down so you'd never know (unless a game needed it to run full speed so you got stutters).
It’s mostly because of the enclosed and unventilated design for the m2 SSD. It’s basically gonna have no way of exhausting heat in there otherwise.
SSD performance with the heatsink last longer. The longer you game without a heatsink is when you get speed throttle.
@@One21P hah what a load of crap 💩
I'm curious to see why there was such a big difference in speeds between the 980 pro 500GB here and the 980 pro 1 TB that was on Spawn Wave.
Different SKUs some times have 1) different controllers that are simply faster 2) different block sizes in the formatting which result in the controller being able to “grab more data” addressing the same number of blocks or clusters.
Usually the difference is pretty small and it only happens during big linear reads, I don’t know how big is the difference you saw.
@@AlejandroLZuvic Digital Foundry had a speed around 6500 MB/s and Spawn Wave had one closer to 5500 MB/s
Great video! Thanks!!
Good video DF.
This is some good information, I do like the Plug n Play style of the Xbox Expansion Storage and the Swappable nature aswell, you at the their mercy tho when it comes too Pricing n Availablity and with the PS5 you definitely have more Options n Price Options but it is more fiddly too connect and once it's in that's it you can't Swap it around.
The expansion slot leverages the full internal IO subsystems like the stock drive. Without that, you wouldn't see these speeds in native PS5 titles. Down the road when DirectStorage becomes more mainstream and game supported on PC, you'll see the same advantage using a superfast SSD with or without DirectStorage in play.
They do want to cut the time by having the GPU directly accessing the SSD rather than going GPU then CPU then RAM then SSD to then back to the CPU, then back to the GPU.
Yeah, there are huge advantages here with the PS5 being an APU and accessing directly the SSD.
Some PC fanboys said there wouldn't be a difference but there certainly is now they want it too.
I'm excited for DirectStorage. Finally something that'll put my Sabrent Rocket 4 through its paces in games.
@@jamescorey3516 There's always a difference and it's mostly because Microsoft didn't come up with something like Direct Storage a long time ago when considering M2 drives have been out for years but to be fair, games have not really needed that until now, hence why SSD and M2 drives perform about the same with games even thought a PCI Express 3.0 drive is about 7 times faster than a SSD drive, PCI Express 4.0 is even faster.
What I do find strange on the PC is why is it just games that don't take advantage of M2 drives when pretty much everything else does on the PC, this was never a problem with games when PC gamers went from mechanical drives to SSD drives, the performance on everything including games was instant.
@@paul1979uk2000 The reason they perform the same is because games DO NOT rely on sequential (i.e: the 7000MB/ps) speeds. They rely on the random access speeds to load data in game. If you stuck a SATA speed class M2 drive in there, it would perform pretty much the same. Where sequential speeds matter is on the inital install. When one is copying games from the install program over to the drive.
Keep waiting
Thanks for the great video. It looks like Sony team really optimized reads on the internal ssd and was less aggressive on the writes (makes sense for limited-bandwidth requirements for game installs).
Interesting results on battlefield as well, I wonder if it uses higher or lower numbers of small files vs the other tested games
Nothing to do with optimization. It's just cheaper for Sony to have a slower writing SSD.
@@Ayoul That's incorrect. SSD performance has more to do with the controller hardware/firmware connected to the NAND flash with the flash memory chosen as complementary to that controller (ie you would not put a porsche engine in a hyundai accent body). This is especially true for the PS5 since Sony developed their own SSD controller hardware/firmware rather than using something off the shelf meaning that if the write performance is slower, it was by Sony's design. If they really wanted to save money they could have purchased the fastest flash memory in the world alongside the fastest controller available instead of developing their own control hardware. Doing that was very expensive for Sony.
Thanks guys !!!
Thanks Richard! I'm using the same drive, haven't had any issues at all and I was able to get the 500GB version for $119 on Amazon.
I put in a WD_Black SN850 into my PS5 (500 GB). Games seem to run exactly the same as on the internal. Will see if that changes as time goes on, but currently very happy with the setup
500 too small
It’s good to see the flexibility and the freedom to choose any SSD vendor and capacity that you like, Sony knows how the proprietary expansion hurts the reputation of a system like they did on Vita with pretty expensive cards on a era of MicroSDs
Good move by Sony because people don't trust them with storage cards.
You people never pay attention xbox has already confirmed cheaper 3rd party expansion cards will come too so xbox did It better still.
Too bad Microsoft didn't learn with Sony's mistake on PS Vita cards, what were they thinking?
@@offspringfan89 read my comment above yours.
@@x-coin0420 the Seagate is actually a third party, it’s not made by MS, but they have to pay a tax to MS to make a compatible drive with the MS connector. The PS5 use standard M.2 compatible with PCs, so the drive is multi propose, you can buy for PS5 and in the future if you want use on PC.
The MS approach is like Apple with the MFI
Great info 👍
Oh my god thank you I’m not the only one having problems with the 980 I seriously thought I was the only one but I guess a lot of people are having problems with it and other drives to thank you so much I’m glad I was reading the comments
Cant wait for this to drop in price
Those game transfers to and from the internal PS5 SSD and the M.2, was that done with or without the heatsink? Didn't hear you mention it.
I don't think that would matter, because other youtube vids also mention the slow speeds when writing back to the ps5. I think it's because the ps5's ssd was mainly "tuned" for reading speeds as against writing speeds, since most times game data will be read from the ssd.
@@jondoe1444 Oh yeh almost certainly unrelated to that issue, I was just asking as the longer transfer times are where the heatsink would really come into play. I'd like to have seen these tests done with and without the heatsink really.
@@vScoobyDoox Can't comment on this drive but on one of the Samsung drives I've got which can do 3.5GB per second, not having the heatsink on makes a massive difference, basically, with it on, temps are around 55c-61c, with it off, temps are around 91c.
I would imagine that PCI Express 4.0 drives get hotter because they run much faster and an easy way to test that out would be with the same drive on a PC with and without a heatsink and see what the temps are.
For the record, performance didn't drop on my drive without a heatsink even with such a high temp but it shows that a heatsink can make a massive difference on temps.
great video and helps clear up alot. I'll be curious to see which drives are supported when out of beta.
This was the video I needed
After this one, the VRR update should be the next big one since the TV's are suppose to get by winter of this year and I'm sure they'll get about the same time
Yesss my sony xh 90 is waiting
I do hope that this happens soon. Can’t understand why it didn’t ship with VRR support.
I've been playing on PS5 since day 1. Never saw a screen tear or stutters... Having VRR won't make any difference, it's not a PC with unpredictable performance.
@@mash2481 because Playstation is the only thing in Sony with there head on straight.... ps5 didn't ship with it cuz TV didn't have it yet and Sony is dumb like tha.
@@aaronclay4665 Exactly. The PS5 having VRR would highlight a flaw in Sony TV sets and encourage potential buyers to opt for a competitive TV brand.
I'm curious if it's better for the longevity of the SSD to omit the metal cover @4:39 to improve airflow and heat dissipation (the two air vents “notches” seem too small).
I'm curious about this as well
Sony says to use a heatsink
I'm pretty sure the air flows through the bay as part of the cooling of the system, it wouldn't be a good idea to leave it off.
SSD workloads in a gaming environment are going to be short and heavy. So 100% for under a minute then low usage. A heatsink will soak the heat in that short workload and have plenty of time to dissipate it when it's barely being used.
You'll mess up the designed airflow if you leave the metal cover off. Just put a good coper heatsink on your M.2 and you'll be golden in terms of longevity.
Great detailed review!
Nice, I will keep this in mind when I end up getting more games down the line.
Just want folders tbh haha!
No question, being able to put in drives of any size is an advantage for PS5. But I prefer the hot-swapping ability of the Xbox Series expansion option vs. 10 minutes to swap drives from one system to another. The fact that it’s plugged in externally should be a heat-dissipation advantage too. Hot-swapping won’t matter at all to some people, but will matter hugely to others (such as people with an Xbox in the living room and the bedroom).
I agree. Both methods have their advantages and disadvantages for sure, but I just don't see the average gamer being comfortable getting the right kind of drive that already are pretty expensive, need a heatsink (they probably don't even know what that means) and then opening up their PS5's. Average Xbox gamer can just go to a Gamestop and buy the dongle and plug it in.
Like I know the common counter argument to this is that changing the SSD is basically child's play for them (especially PC builders), but it really isn't for most people.
@@Ayoul Agreed. I don't think this is necessarily beyond most people's ability. I do think it is beyond many people's *perceptions* of their ability. And also beyond their desire to do so. They'd be more likely to be PC gamers if they were comfortable with disassembling their systems, even if it's an easy disassembly. :)
I'm guessing the M.2 -> internal ssd transfer is slow because the console is verifying the data, due to the fact that the drive is potentially modifiable by a PC. Thoughts?
That's a good point
The PS5 drive was also nearly full, limiting its ability to transfer using an SLC cache. Terrible methodology, honestly.
the seq. writes is much lower for the internal ssd, which is expected as its not a pro level ssd.
Nah, that is simply a result of the internal SSD being rather bad in terms of write speeds, which doesn't come as a surprise. A 980 Pro is made for creators that write a lot in comparison.
The write speed would be slower than read speed. You dont need amazing write speed unless you are doing massive data transfer often. You not downloading a GB/s so why would you need that fast write speed.
but the 980 PRO is designed as it name says for a professional work load that requires the moving of data on and off it. Assume someone that does 4K video editing and uses that drive daily
You got me I suscribed ... I just wonder when the final software update will happen I was not chosen to test the Beta :(
Great and very in-depth tests and comparisons.
A explanation why transferring to the internal SSD of the PS5 might be slower because that's also where the system is running from?
Don't have a PS5 and don't know much about it, but it's an idea that came up when seeing the video.
Would it not make more sense to keep the SSD slot cover off, so that the heat sink will get better airflow?
no there's air channels in the SSD bay
@@brandon_nope right, but wouldn’t there be some airflow if you left the cover off? I just can’t think of a good reason to put the cover back on
@@ZeeVoe that’s what I’m wondering about as well. Is the cover there to keep unnecessary dust particles out or something of these sort? It seems more logical to keep the cover off for more air flow like you say.
Would love to know this as well.
The reason is because the compartment is cooled by negative pressure from the fan, so you need to seal it for proper airflow
I’m so glad Digital Foundry exists
the music at the beginning of the video reminds me of the old songs used in comparisons of games from different consoles
I believe it to be a great choice. 3rd party options for capacity upgrade. Let us not forget what happened with the PSP's memory cards. Thanks for this detail review as always. Much appreciated.
I’m kinda glad that Sony went with standard M.2 SSDs. Sure, they’re expensive now. But they’ll eventually start to go down in price as time goes on since they aren’t proprietary. That being said, I do wish that Sony made a list of already-available SSDs that are fair game for the PS5.
Yep this is the truth.
they will give the list just be patient
but there are serval or almost all over 5500mb work fine with ps5
Why wouldn’t proprietary go down in price?
That’s exactly how I felt about the matter. I have a PS5, and even though I feel like XSX’s architecture is more cleverly designed, they made a mistake not allowing for an M2 expansion slot.
If NAND prices goes down, I'm sure Xbox's proprietary expansions will go down too since they have to be competitive. Still i prefer standard m.2 tho
Can you test the performance with the metal cover on or off? Personally I think it should be on for airflow, but others say they're going to leave it off to use bigger heatsinks.
It should be on because it’s designed to create negative pressure to cool it, so it’ll be messing up the designed cooling method
@@cmdr101z8 I agree. It'd be interesting to see a professional test with a larger heatsink though.
@@silentkb Yeah it’d be interesting to see the temperature differences
Thank you very informative video
Nice to know that there're some SSDs that function atm. Don't need to upgrade right now but sounds promising for the future.
Yeah when those cheap bulk SSD will start dying people will have to replace their drive. Thats the problem with SSDs when you go cheap as possible. Longevity.
Will you guys be trying other SSD’s? I’m
Curious how Cerny has picked his own brand… I feel like I should buy the WD one because he’s plugged it. It’d be good to see you guys put them against each other - but I appreciate that’d be a lot of work. Keep up the good work.
Honestly the 980 pro and WD SN850 are very similar drives in terms of performance, I think one's got slightly faster read speeds and the other has slightly faster write speeds but they're fairly equivalent, I got a 980 pro for my new build with a Ryzen 5800x and I love it but I know WD Black is a great brand as my 7500rpm 2tb HDD is a WD black and I've had it since 2015 with no issues.
980 pro wd 850 or firecuda 530 are the top 3 I would go for
@@WayStedYou yeah... I've watched a few now that puts them near the top. In all honesty, I am happy to wait as I'm not desperate right now. I can happily manage storage without making tough choices.
When an SSD literally 1/2 the price of the entire PS5 DE console beats its load time by 2 seconds :D
To be fair, the Microsoft solution isn't cheaper (in fact it's a bit more expensive). It's what happens when you introduce new technology.
Finally they made a video about this, tiz about time 👍
Great video i wanted to see some lower velocity ssd to see what will happen
980 pro (500GB) is freaking sci fi. I bought it at a discount €85 + be quiet MC1 heatsink €15. Perfect combination and fits in the PS5, read speeds tested at 6700MB/s.
I bought the 1tb with heatsink, am only getting read speed of 5670, and looking on other videos, people are saying similar 🤔
@@housespecial7855 yeah depends on the size of your drive, the smaller ones (250-500GB) tend to show faster speeds. Don't think about it. It's just a check from Sony, look it up.
@@TDamsma just a check?
@@housespecial7855 jep look it up, If you put the 980 pro in a pc it would be much faster. Don't worry. The drive is faster than 5600MB/s. Go RUclips similar videos about this particular situation. But I wouldn't worry, because it exceeds the minimum read speeds. Go have fun and enjoy the extra space.
Thanks for the video! I am 2 years late to upgrading my PS5, however now that I am sharing the storage space with 2 other people, I've been in need of an upgrade. I was always under the assumption that we'd REPLACE the internal drive. So great that it is instead a separate storage slot on its own which can be used in addition to the internal storage. Guess I won't have to opt for the 2TB drive after all. For anyone who is watching this now as well, Amazon has the 980 Pro, with a heatsink, for pretty cheap. About $80 and no more expensive than the version without a heatsink.
Agree to the copy feature. Definitely needed. My guess on the top3 ssds is wd black sn850, seagate firecuda and the samsung 980 pro. Personally i would choose wd because i use wd with all my systems for a couple years and i am satisfied with the storages they offer.
Not interested on adding storage to my ps5 for now, but it looks interested. Great video
I've had a 1TB 7000MB/s NVME on standby, just waiting to get either beta access or a public firmware release. My 2TB XSX storage is totally sufficient, paired with an external, but the 667GB in my PS5 feels totally anemic.
They had to hit a mass market pricepoint. Not everyone has alot of money to spend on videogaming hobbies.
@@2drealms196 Xbox hit that same price point with more storage and a better GPU so what’s your point? All whilst running cooler and quieter.
@@maniacmcmuffin5025 you're forgetting the fact Microsoft is a much larger & richer company than Sony. They can afford to take the hit with pricing while spending more on faster hardware. Sony doesn't as much money to burn like them.
@@maniacmcmuffin5025 Storage is cheap, not really a great argument and Xbox expansion card is propritery which is a awful thing. GPU though, is faster but they are not that far off, not to the point where a price difference would be a thing. You see different 3090s at different price points as well so what is *your* point? It's the same card right?
PS5 has MUCH better audio tech than the Xbox, that is not to scoff at. So I think the similar prices really are justified along with the faster SSD PS5 has, although beit not by much.
Budget is just used slightly different for the machines. The machines literally cost about the same to make.
@@maniacmcmuffin5025 Yeah, the XSX is my favored hardware this time around. First generation I haven't preferred the PS console to the Xbox, though I'm primarily a PC guy.
XSX's SSD on-paper is less than half as fast as the PS5's, but in most cases the PS5 loads games like half a second faster, and in some cases like Cyberpunk 2077 and Monster Hunter World, the XSX loads faster. So yeah, the PS5 does not get the win in this area, I prefer the XSX's internal storage.
It feels a bit weird to call M.2 SSD "external" as you'd have to go so far to install it (and it rest inside the PS5 chassis).
Lol, ikr
I think it should be called "secondary" storage or something.
Took my chances and got a PNY Gen 4 1TB nvme drive free from Dell. I'm already on the Beta software and loving it!
Will do some testing once I get the drive in the middle of the week.
I’m liking the look of the WD black SN850 1tb with included heatsink. Alas not in stock on Amazon right now but I’m not in the beta program anyhow 😊
Got my Mark Cerny WD-Black SN 850 1TB today ... for 155€ a pretty good price also (+20€ for a 3rd party Heatsink) 😍 unfortunately i have to wait for my beta access or for the final release of the SSD support 🤣 but prices already go sky high and most of ssds are already sold out 🤓
Oh absolutely got a 2 tb western digital with heat sink and it is already backordered for 3-4 weeks. I wanted to get a drive before the dumb scalpers buy them up like crazy and sell them for obnoxious prices on eBay like they like to do.
@@nikolavonfulton5195 nice 😃🙏 they also have ridiculous prices for the 1TB version with heatsink ... without its like 160€ on amazon and with heatsink it was 320€ 🤣 same with 2TB version... they are so clever 😏
@@thehoonta5312 980 is also pretty nice 😏👌
I got the 2tb version with the heatsink. Also, my PS5 is already running the beta version and my SSD is arriving Monday.
Exact same combo as what I bought. I got the update yesterday and it works flawlessly. read speed of 6559mbs.
Note: the Samsung SSD 980 Pro Gen4 500GB version has 5GB write speed vs the WD_Black SN850 500GB Gen4 has 4GB wite speed. Only from the 1TB version you get 5GB write speed. So if you are going for 500GB SSD, then it would be better to go for the Samsung
Thanks that's good info
Why would you care about write speed, though? The only thing it affects (moving games from the built-in SSD) is a rare use-case.
@@Vegemeister1 updates, installing games, transferring games...
@@AntiTako You somehow got a 50Gbe port and internet connection? Or did this suddenly get a USB4 with pcie pass through?
@@Vegemeister1 I recommend you to read about SSD to see why the constant write speed is so important. Beside Samsung SSD is always recommended because of the best reliability.
I have one of the Aorus drives with that very heat sink. Its badass with my RTX 3090 and Ryzen 3900XT.
I'm waiting for black Friday to get a good price for an SSD.
Same 😂
The 500gb is only 107 and the 250gb is 57
You better be quick cuz I'm sure they'll sell out like hotcakes
👀 you thirsty fools stay away from my bargains you hear 🤣⚰️💪🏻
I have 2tb this last black Friday ya