“You would destroy the Cybermen with four Daleks?” “We would destroy the Cybermen with one Dalek! You are superior in only one respect.” “What is that?” “You Are Better At Dying!” *Savage*
This episode is such an emotional rollercoaster. The Daleks and Cybermen sassing each other - hilarious. The big fight - scary. Yvonne resisting cyber-conversion to do her duty - tragic but inspiring. The Doctor and Rose being separated and the big goodbye - tragic. A random angry bride appears in the Tardis - funny and puzzling. "What?!" is the correct response. BTW, Catherine Tate, who plays the bride, was at the time very well known as a comedienne with her own sketch comedy show. So her turning up was sort of equivalent to one of the people from SNL or similar unexpectedly appearing in a more serious show.
I am sooooo old that I've seen a lot of Dr Who.... When i was a child and saw the first Doctor (William Hartnell ) change in to the 2nd Doctor (Patrick Troughton) I was very sad and I told my DAD that I didn't want him to change..... DAD said "Son sometimes life moves on and things change" .....It was 3 years later that My BEAUTIFUL DAD passed..... So for me this is an AMAZING connection to the DOCTOR who I will always Love
Classic Who fans had always wanted a battle between the Daleks and the Cybermen in classic Who, but either the writers couldn’t come up with a viable story during those years or the BBC’s budget didn’t allow a battle to happen on the scale of what we had in this episode. This was fan fiction at its very best, provided by the show runner himself (and Doctor Who fan) Russell T. Davies, and he provides a satisfying conclusion to the story arc of Rose and her family. The next episode, The Runaway Bride, is the Christmas Day special for 2006. It’s a great story and I think you’re gonna love guest star’s Catherine Tate’s character in this. Looking forward to your reaction to it.
Might've been a rights issue. Terry Nation (who created the Daleks) used to be very fussy about what was done with them in the classic era, and mostly wrote the stories himself until he moved to the US.
I have genuinely never seen you so worked up at the start of an episode. It's delightful in a way, reminds me of when I was 11 and had to wait a week, both to see the first ever Dr Who where we had both Daleks AND Cybermen, and also waiting to see if/how Rose 'died'.
Doomsday is the saddest episode for me because Rose is my favorite character. I sobbed when she tried to say I love you and couldn't at first. Billie Piper killed it. David did as well that vacant expression kills me.
I kept watching "New Who" until I lost my source partway through Jodie Whitaker's run and I did embrace a couple of the later Companions, but none have ever truly replaced Rose Tyler in my heart. It's like she was my first love and became the standard against which I've compared all potential mates -- to their eternal detriment.
I saw it the first time round and was amaze at what they manage to create this very cinematic disaster movie type episode on such a low budget and with such incredible quality storytelling with such compelling emotional beats. I think this was an amazing achievement in the history of television storytelling and broadcasting.
Two of The Doctor’s greatest foes, the Daleks and the Cybermen, finally together on screen and it was hilarious 😆 Doomsday I’d say is a good showcase of how the show can give you emotional whiplash. One minute you’re laughing at the Daleks and Cybermen insulting each other the next you’re upset about the departure of a Companion. And right after you see The Doctor cry you see a random Catherine Tate in a wedding dress yelling at him about what’s going on
Interesting difference. The cybermen said "You will become identical.", showing no sign of superiority of one cyberman to another. The cyberleader was simply a placeholder, that can be downloaded in another one. But in the next scene, dalek Sec demanded Rose to designate the "least important". Showing that the daleks are exact opposite to the cybermen. That even among their "inferiors", others are higher standing than others
Yeah, that's an interesting point. I think there's one classic story in which the Cybermen had two different "officer" ranks, but otherwise they've seemed to be mostly interchangeable; whereas the Daleks have been seen to have a hierarchy almost from the beginning.
How doctor like Rose was in confronting the Daleks. How did Pete know? He didn’t. He was coming back to get Rose for Jackie. My daughter, after watching this episode, said “that might have been the saddest thing I ever watched”.
This the thing about Doctor Who, when something bad happened at the end of the series there always a cliffhanger that make you laugh. You just been crying and then you’re laughing at the end. 😂
I remember that first time, I was also 10 when it came out, I'd broke down the moment Rose let go of the lever.. Cause I was absolutely bawling i'd ran to my mum for comfort, I never saw Pete catch her or anything after that point in the episode happen, I believed she was truly gone
This episode always makes me cry. Jackie and alternative Pete is wonderful ❤ I think her dad ‘knew’ to go back for her. When Jackie berated him. Christmas Episode is great fun and you meet Donna Noble. Played by Catherine Tate. Her and David Tennant became great friends in real life.
One of my favourite bits of foreshadowing in Doctor Who... Remember that scene in Tooth and Claw, when the Doctor was listening through the wall for a monstrous wolf that couldn't break the barrier? Now compare that to the Doctor in Doomsday...listening through the wall for his 'Bad Wolf', on the other side of a barrier that can never be broken...
During the original airing of this season finale, when The Doctor puts on the glasses, that was a cue to the viewer to put on their glasses for the 3-D special effect that was about to occur. Sarah Jane had a spin-off series that came out about around this point in the show. It was called The Sarah Jane Adventures, and some of the season finales and guest appearances play into each other. The Sarah Jane Adventures was a much beloved series.
One of my top 10 favorite episodes of Doctor Who! It was like Alien vs Predator but with a much better script! Their departure generated a lot of tears. Last 10 seconds were crazy and inexplicable.
This is the episode I’ve been impatiently awaiting your reaction. The roller coaster of emotions are going to make you feel like you went 2 rounds with Mike Tyson. It’s one of the hardest hitting episodes…. But there will be more, we still have Ali and Foreman and crew in the Green Room.
One of my favorite moments of this episode was always Miss Yvonne's sacrifice. I was so moved by it. I never heard of someone resisting after being converted to a Cyberman before....
My headcanon is that since everyone at Torchwood had “at least a basic level of psychic training”, that she - being the leader - would likely be very highly trained, even compared to the rest and hence have great control over her consciousness even after conversion
Your bug metaphor was Meta 😂😂this was a fabulous episode and I loved you joy and sadness watching. It really brought back memories. Keep it coming with your reactions,lots of enjoyment to come 😊
Keep those tissues handy, Emme. While DW can sometimes be silly or ridiculous, these sad moments do pop up from time to time. I don’t think it’s too much of a spoiler to say that they’re really good at turning the departure of a main character into a tearjerker.
WOO-WOO!!! Yes, you made it!!! "Normal...?" LOL!!! A little obsessed with the word "died," huh? :) How did Pete know? He didn't, but clearly Jackie gave him a "Happy Wife, Happy Life" ultimatum. Oh, this show will *make* you a crier!!! LOL!!! Keep the tissues by you!!! THANKS for this (and hope you are enjoying Season 3)!!!
If it helps, the Doctor is the one who decided to put Rose in the friend zone when she said that she would be with him forever. He is commitment phobic
This next season is my (and many peoples) favorite..... just wait..!!! It's this season and the one after that is the peak of the show in terms of viewership (ratings up to 13 million), exposure (3 extra spin off shows, the shows music played at concerts in the Albert Hall in london and merch exhibitions up and down the country, and awards (both national and international)... you are gonna love LOVE what's coming.... keep the tissues handy though.....
I terms of "how did he know", I think the implication was that Pete's side could somehow see what was going on in the Doctor's side. That's how Jake and his squad were able to appear in that room in formation to shoot the Cybermen. That may just be nonsense but that was my guess at least.
I was 13 when I watched this episode for the first time, and it almost destroyed me. I started weeping and crying at the moment when Rose started to get sucked into the void, and few minutes later after the Doctor couldn't finish the line "Rose Tyler..." I was bawling from the pain this scene caused. My grandma run from kitchen to check on me because she thought I get harmed or traumatized (which was true, but not physically). Even after my tears dry up, I still felt a need to cry, my throat was contracting for like four hours after episode ended. I'm so glad I can re-watch "Doomsday" now without being dragged down to be my teary-eyed previous self. And even more glad there is only one other episode of "Doctor Who" able to do the same to me.
3:09 - Imagine if the Cybermen had first gone to retirement homes, or places where people are hungry/afraid/hurting. The Cybermen then offer everyone present a chance to be transferred into a new metal body, young, healthy, strong, and never hungry ever again. How many people would be willing to give up their current lives in exchange for having potentially centuries of life ahead of them? 5:10 - notice how fast the Dalek denied the alliance. No consideration of tactical or strategic benefits. No consideration of the Cybermen as a threat. Not even a counter-proposal of you stay on this planet we take the rest of the universe. Just immediate denial. Tells you a bit about the Dalek mindset. 12:23 - most of the Doctor's adventures are of picking the lesser of two evils while trying to do good. As a result, the Doctor can't complain when Mickey does the same. 17:15 - and then there were 20:10, 21:04, and 24:53 where the Doctor showed his emotions 18:08 - remember when the Doctor referred to the void as 'hell'? Here the Doctor is telling Rose to set all the coordinates to '6'.
A Daleks Vs Cybermen story was first considered in the 1960s, but was up against the rather powerful interests of the Dalek creator, Terry Nation. But I guess even he wouldn't have predicted that their first confrontation would be bitchy. For fans of the Cybes, it was a bit of a let-down to see them knocked over so easily. But there can only be one boss monster in this series and it's always been the pepperpots.
The thing with Daleks is that they're subject to the same laws as the Conservation of Ninjitsu. Just as one ninja is a deadly force and a horde of them are cannon fodder, a single Dalek takes an entire episode to bring down, and it usually takes highly specialised tools and an army or two. A million Daleks also takes an entire episode to bring down, and it's usually by flicking a switch.
Well, this episode just shows again that Doctor Who is not jusr fun and games, but tears and depression. Your little "kill me" towards the end was so unexpected and ended up making me laugh. The whole ending was also pretty wild... What this woman in wedding dress is doing in the TARDIS???
This was the first episode of Doctor Who I ever watched. Without any context of who these people were, it was *still* devastating. To this day, nearly two decades later, I can't listen to Doomsday (the music track that plays starting at 20:30) without feeling a squeeze in my heart. To me, this is the most beautiful piece Murray Gold has composed for the series, and that's a very high bar to clear.
Great reaction 🤣 I cried right along with you for the millionth time watching this episode. And yeah 😅 I agree seeing Donna right after that heartbreak was uncalled for 😅 I don't like it when the pain is undercut by humor, as much as I like Donna.
My question about there being a Torchwood in the other universe is; what was the inciting incident that caused it to be formed in that universe. We saw earlier in the season that Queen Victoria formed one version Torchwood after the werewolf incident, but specifically cited the Doctor as the main reason and enemy of Torchwood. Theoretically there isn't a Doctor in the other universe, so what was their mandate?
@@miller-joelbut Emme has only seen two series of the show and it's clear she's meeting these characters for the first time. If someone new was going to start the show, but don't know of the whole regeneration thing...would you inform them? OR would you rather not do that and have them reach a Doctor's end only to see the body change to the next incarnation? Similar things can be said for enemies.
25:29 lol at you embodying 10 with your “What?” Perfect. I didn’t like Rose’s line about this is when she’d pass on but it ended up being more metaphorical. I’d rather they had actually taken her out, or left that line out all together. Anyway, it was a great two episode ending of the season outside of that. Enjoyed your reaction as usual.
Bigger on the inside timelord science, always likely a prison, death as in other world, a metaphor they do that with writing, they tease us a lot XD the shopping weights get use, good mix of Daleks and Cybermen, and parallel worlds. Very touching episode for sure tissue worthy. I assumed the 3D glasess were for like particles/radiation or something, yep was that scene. Dinna, Catherine Tate is great. :)
I love Dalek Sec (the black one). The Daleks are all independant beings but most Daleks very rarely can or will think outside of the "Dalek Imperative" which is essentially that Daleks are supreme and must destroy every other living thing in the universe that isnt a Dalek. Dalek Sec is still driven by the urge to fullfill the Dalek Imperative but were most Daleks will be predictable and just go "exterminate", he is open to anything even smacktalking and ragebaiting. Sec is so interesting because it is pretty much the only Dalek that is different and is suppose to be and think different.
I'm not saying that on the first viewing this occurred to me, but her telling the story of how she died might have been a clue that it wasn't literal death. Also, if you haven't guessed, there will be a lot of very emotional episodes as you watch this series.
Cyberleader: Daleks, be warned. You have declared war upon the Cybermen. Dalek Sec: This is not war. This is pest control. Cyberleader: We have five million Cybermen. How many are you? Dalek Sec: Four. Cyberleader: You would destroy the Cybermen with four Daleks? Dalek Sec: We would destroy the Cybermen with one Dalek. You are superior in only one respect. Cyberleader: What is that? Dalek Sec: You are better at dying. Raise communications barrier! The conversation between The Daleks and The Cybermen never fails to make me laugh. Who knew Daleks could be so sassy lol. 🤣 ROSE: I, I love you. DOCTOR: Quite right, too. And I suppose, if it's one last chance to say it, Rose Tyler Even to this day, this episode and that scene still hurts. It broke my heart as a kid, I just wish he could have finished that sentence and told Rose, he loved her. 😥
It was Time Lord technology. The Daleks needed someone has the *other* background radiation travelling in a Tardis gives you (artron energy? Something like that). Which is why Mickey could activate it. Any of Rose, Mickey, Jackie or the Doctor would have worked to activate the Ark as it would recognize them as Time Lord given they've all travelled in the Tardis - which normally only Time Lords could ever do, the rest of them would never pick up hitchhikers like the Doctor does.
If you thought it through, the Cybermen upgraded on THIS planet Earth shouldn't have any Void stuff - the series 3 short book 'Made of Steel' deals with them.
Doomsday is 18 years old today 😮 fitting that you done your reaction on the anniversary of the episode ❤
Amazing
Wow great timing!!!
18???? 👴
@@TomMerson I know I’m now 28 and feel old lol
Yeah, it can drink now. (UK at least)
Who knew the Daleks were this zesty? The catfight of canary wharf between the Daleks and Cybermen is something else
lmao whatt
zesty ahhh 💀
There's a parody video of this scene called "The Bitch Fight of Canary Wharf", it is absolutely hilarious!!!
This is not war this is cyberbullying
“You would destroy the Cybermen with four Daleks?”
“We would destroy the Cybermen with one Dalek! You are superior in only one respect.”
“What is that?”
“You Are Better At Dying!”
*Savage*
You did the three “What’s” without realising it’s a catchphrase. Brilliant!
This episode is such an emotional rollercoaster. The Daleks and Cybermen sassing each other - hilarious. The big fight - scary. Yvonne resisting cyber-conversion to do her duty - tragic but inspiring. The Doctor and Rose being separated and the big goodbye - tragic. A random angry bride appears in the Tardis - funny and puzzling. "What?!" is the correct response.
BTW, Catherine Tate, who plays the bride, was at the time very well known as a comedienne with her own sketch comedy show. So her turning up was sort of equivalent to one of the people from SNL or similar unexpectedly appearing in a more serious show.
YOU SAID WHAT 3 TIMES AS WELL.
So happy! 😂
It’s the contraction of What is happening?
"We're crying and then something ridiculous happens."
Exactly! 😁
The Daleks have been coming back for more than 60 years, they're like boomerangs. It's not a wise bet to think they'll never return.
And super fun with this episode that this was the first time Daleks and Cybermen showed up in the same episode.
Rose keeps coming back too.
@@sopcannon She’s not a classic villain. Don’t ruin any plot.
The famous David Tennant “What?”
A plunger and a wisk have never been so threatening.
I am sooooo old that I've seen a lot of Dr Who.... When i was a child and saw the first Doctor (William Hartnell ) change in to the 2nd Doctor (Patrick Troughton) I was very sad and I told my DAD that I didn't want him to change..... DAD said "Son sometimes life moves on and things change" .....It was 3 years later that My BEAUTIFUL DAD passed..... So for me this is an AMAZING connection to the DOCTOR who I will always Love
It tickles me when the reactor joins in on the chorus of “what?”😂
Classic Who fans had always wanted a battle between the Daleks and the Cybermen in classic Who, but either the writers couldn’t come up with a viable story during those years or the BBC’s budget didn’t allow a battle to happen on the scale of what we had in this episode. This was fan fiction at its very best, provided by the show runner himself (and Doctor Who fan) Russell T. Davies, and he provides a satisfying conclusion to the story arc of Rose and her family.
The next episode, The Runaway Bride, is the Christmas Day special for 2006. It’s a great story and I think you’re gonna love guest star’s Catherine Tate’s character in this. Looking forward to your reaction to it.
Might've been a rights issue. Terry Nation (who created the Daleks) used to be very fussy about what was done with them in the classic era, and mostly wrote the stories himself until he moved to the US.
I have genuinely never seen you so worked up at the start of an episode. It's delightful in a way, reminds me of when I was 11 and had to wait a week, both to see the first ever Dr Who where we had both Daleks AND Cybermen, and also waiting to see if/how Rose 'died'.
Doomsday is the saddest episode for me because Rose is my favorite character. I sobbed when she tried to say I love you and couldn't at first. Billie Piper killed it. David did as well that vacant expression kills me.
I kept watching "New Who" until I lost my source partway through Jodie Whitaker's run and I did embrace a couple of the later Companions, but none have ever truly replaced Rose Tyler in my heart. It's like she was my first love and became the standard against which I've compared all potential mates -- to their eternal detriment.
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Me too. A lot of people dont like Rose but I was a teenager…no one ever got that place in my heart though. I do like Amy Pond though.
Amazing how much they put into this episode. Cybermen, Torchwood, Daleks, Mickey, the Jackie/Pete reunion and Rose's departure from this universe.
I saw it the first time round and was amaze at what they manage to create this very cinematic disaster movie type episode on such a low budget and with such incredible quality storytelling with such compelling emotional beats. I think this was an amazing achievement in the history of television storytelling and broadcasting.
Billie Piper (Rose Tyler) did phenomenal in this series, specifically in emotional scenes.
Ah yes.. that one Saturday in 2006 when everyone was in tears😭, I remember it well😂
true, ill never forget the chaos of 2009 as well. Every female in the UK was devastated by the end of time
Two of The Doctor’s greatest foes, the Daleks and the Cybermen, finally together on screen and it was hilarious 😆
Doomsday I’d say is a good showcase of how the show can give you emotional whiplash. One minute you’re laughing at the Daleks and Cybermen insulting each other the next you’re upset about the departure of a Companion. And right after you see The Doctor cry you see a random Catherine Tate in a wedding dress yelling at him about what’s going on
Emotional whiplash is a perfect description.
Interesting difference. The cybermen said "You will become identical.", showing no sign of superiority of one cyberman to another. The cyberleader was simply a placeholder, that can be downloaded in another one. But in the next scene, dalek Sec demanded Rose to designate the "least important". Showing that the daleks are exact opposite to the cybermen. That even among their "inferiors", others are higher standing than others
Yeah, that's an interesting point. I think there's one classic story in which the Cybermen had two different "officer" ranks, but otherwise they've seemed to be mostly interchangeable; whereas the Daleks have been seen to have a hierarchy almost from the beginning.
If the Daleks were metal Nazis then the Cybermen, at least in Nu Who, stand in for a sort of Cyber Communism.
"Daleks have no concept of elegance!"
That is obvious...
The scene at Bad Wolf Bay. Such a sad one even after all this time.
How doctor like Rose was in confronting the Daleks. How did Pete know? He didn’t. He was coming back to get Rose for Jackie. My daughter, after watching this episode, said “that might have been the saddest thing I ever watched”.
This the thing about Doctor Who, when something bad happened at the end of the series there always a cliffhanger that make you laugh. You just been crying and then you’re laughing at the end. 😂
"We don't see him cry"
Brace yourself, 2024 series is nothing but the doctor crying.
Oh boy this is gonna be brutal, still hurts a little after nearly 20 years.
Let me be brave, let me be brave - Emme 2024
Let me be brave?... This girl is digging her own grave (and no, won't spoil why but y'all know, come on)
💩 has it been 20 years… frack I’m old… 🤦♂️
@@slaaneshhedonite7068not quite, but almost. Here's something scary, this episode is now almost the same as Rose was when she first met the Doctor
Wow. It's crazy to think this episode is 18 years old... wow.
@@austinbreuer4276next year it'll be 19 and that's Rose's age
This episode messes with me. I saw it when it first aired (I was 10) and I cried, and I’m 27 now… and I still cry.
I remember that first time, I was also 10 when it came out, I'd broke down the moment Rose let go of the lever.. Cause I was absolutely bawling i'd ran to my mum for comfort, I never saw Pete catch her or anything after that point in the episode happen, I believed she was truly gone
This episode always makes me cry. Jackie and alternative Pete is wonderful ❤ I think her dad ‘knew’ to go back for her. When Jackie berated him. Christmas Episode is great fun and you meet Donna Noble. Played by Catherine Tate. Her and David Tennant became great friends in real life.
I just binge watched this entire dr who playlist and now I’m caught up and retraumatized and idk what to do with myself now 💀
One of my favourite bits of foreshadowing in Doctor Who... Remember that scene in Tooth and Claw, when the Doctor was listening through the wall for a monstrous wolf that couldn't break the barrier? Now compare that to the Doctor in Doomsday...listening through the wall for his 'Bad Wolf', on the other side of a barrier that can never be broken...
One of the best episodes ever, can’t believe it’s been 18 years, that’s mad
During the original airing of this season finale, when The Doctor puts on the glasses, that was a cue to the viewer to put on their glasses for the 3-D special effect that was about to occur.
Sarah Jane had a spin-off series that came out about around this point in the show. It was called The Sarah Jane Adventures, and some of the season finales and guest appearances play into each other.
The Sarah Jane Adventures was a much beloved series.
17:19 He's nine centuries old. He's had dozens of companions. If he lets himself feel the loss of one he feels the loss of them all.
One of my top 10 favorite episodes of Doctor Who! It was like Alien vs Predator but with a much better script! Their departure generated a lot of tears. Last 10 seconds were crazy and inexplicable.
This is the episode I’ve been impatiently awaiting your reaction. The roller coaster of emotions are going to make you feel like you went 2 rounds with Mike Tyson. It’s one of the hardest hitting episodes…. But there will be more, we still have Ali and Foreman and crew in the Green Room.
And now welcome to one of the best companions the doctor has had, who becomes his best friend and advocate
7:02 Hello Chai.🐶 Glad to see you join the video.👍
This is also the end of the original Torchwood - only a few outposts were left and after this, they are all isolated.
Oh joy... You and Elysium reacting to the same episode this morning..... My night is gonna be rough.
"Allow yourself to feel the pain, Doctor..." Yeah yeah, just give it a minute and you'll have aaaall the pain you want 😅
One of my favorite moments of this episode was always Miss Yvonne's sacrifice. I was so moved by it. I never heard of someone resisting after being converted to a Cyberman before....
My headcanon is that since everyone at Torchwood had “at least a basic level of psychic training”, that she - being the leader - would likely be very highly trained, even compared to the rest and hence have great control over her consciousness even after conversion
@@zachnotzachary3503 Yeah. Makes sense.
Still, very emotional scene.
It happened to an extent in the classic era. I suppose it's a logical progression in terms of writing ideas.
Your bug metaphor was Meta 😂😂this was a fabulous episode and I loved you joy and sadness watching. It really brought back memories. Keep it coming with your reactions,lots of enjoyment to come 😊
Keep those tissues handy, Emme. While DW can sometimes be silly or ridiculous, these sad moments do pop up from time to time. I don’t think it’s too much of a spoiler to say that they’re really good at turning the departure of a main character into a tearjerker.
WOO-WOO!!! Yes, you made it!!!
"Normal...?" LOL!!! A little obsessed with the word "died," huh? :)
How did Pete know? He didn't, but clearly Jackie gave him a "Happy Wife, Happy Life" ultimatum.
Oh, this show will *make* you a crier!!! LOL!!! Keep the tissues by you!!!
THANKS for this (and hope you are enjoying Season 3)!!!
If it helps, the Doctor is the one who decided to put Rose in the friend zone when she said that she would be with him forever.
He is commitment phobic
Burning up a sun just to say goodbye. Now that's love
Yeah wouldn't be the only time the Doctor does something like that either😅
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This next season is my (and many peoples) favorite..... just wait..!!! It's this season and the one after that is the peak of the show in terms of viewership (ratings up to 13 million), exposure (3 extra spin off shows, the shows music played at concerts in the Albert Hall in london and merch exhibitions up and down the country, and awards (both national and international)... you are gonna love LOVE what's coming.... keep the tissues handy though.....
I remember seeing this episode on 1st live airing. Cried my eyes out at the end that the Doctor was just cut short of saying I Love you back....
Torchwood is really time now. 👏
Wow I am blowing my nose with tissues and I knew what was going to happen.... Great to see your FABULOUS reaction .... Bless you emme
17:15 The Doctor, Rose and Micky already went thru the void, the first time they went to "Pete's World" (the other dimension).
Thanks, Emme! ⏳ Take a deep breath... catharsis is ahead. 🫂
I terms of "how did he know", I think the implication was that Pete's side could somehow see what was going on in the Doctor's side. That's how Jake and his squad were able to appear in that room in formation to shoot the Cybermen. That may just be nonsense but that was my guess at least.
Ah, the best temp Chiswick. :)
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I was 13 when I watched this episode for the first time, and it almost destroyed me. I started weeping and crying at the moment when Rose started to get sucked into the void, and few minutes later after the Doctor couldn't finish the line "Rose Tyler..." I was bawling from the pain this scene caused. My grandma run from kitchen to check on me because she thought I get harmed or traumatized (which was true, but not physically). Even after my tears dry up, I still felt a need to cry, my throat was contracting for like four hours after episode ended.
I'm so glad I can re-watch "Doomsday" now without being dragged down to be my teary-eyed previous self. And even more glad there is only one other episode of "Doctor Who" able to do the same to me.
"I'm rich."
"I don't care about that. How rich?"
"Very."
"I don't care about that. How very?"
😂😂😂
3:09 - Imagine if the Cybermen had first gone to retirement homes, or places where people are hungry/afraid/hurting. The Cybermen then offer everyone present a chance to be transferred into a new metal body, young, healthy, strong, and never hungry ever again. How many people would be willing to give up their current lives in exchange for having potentially centuries of life ahead of them?
5:10 - notice how fast the Dalek denied the alliance. No consideration of tactical or strategic benefits. No consideration of the Cybermen as a threat. Not even a counter-proposal of you stay on this planet we take the rest of the universe. Just immediate denial. Tells you a bit about the Dalek mindset.
12:23 - most of the Doctor's adventures are of picking the lesser of two evils while trying to do good. As a result, the Doctor can't complain when Mickey does the same.
17:15 - and then there were 20:10, 21:04, and 24:53 where the Doctor showed his emotions
18:08 - remember when the Doctor referred to the void as 'hell'? Here the Doctor is telling Rose to set all the coordinates to '6'.
Congrats on surviving your first companion exit, they don't get any easier
A Daleks Vs Cybermen story was first considered in the 1960s, but was up against the rather powerful interests of the Dalek creator, Terry Nation. But I guess even he wouldn't have predicted that their first confrontation would be bitchy. For fans of the Cybes, it was a bit of a let-down to see them knocked over so easily. But there can only be one boss monster in this series and it's always been the pepperpots.
Pete banfing in and saving Rose makes no sense ... and it's so satisfying.
Your hair is on point. Looks great! This is also where New Who starts to really get me to watch every week.
Here we go!
emme: "I have tissues now"
Me: "...not enough, but good start" :)
The thing with Daleks is that they're subject to the same laws as the Conservation of Ninjitsu. Just as one ninja is a deadly force and a horde of them are cannon fodder, a single Dalek takes an entire episode to bring down, and it usually takes highly specialised tools and an army or two. A million Daleks also takes an entire episode to bring down, and it's usually by flicking a switch.
Cue: Catherine Tate! The #1 Comedienne in Britain at the time!
Wooo Doomsday has arrived!
It makes me cry too and I'm a great big hairy old man. Trust me, it doesn't get any better, but isn't that why we watch Doctor Who?
Well, this episode just shows again that Doctor Who is not jusr fun and games, but tears and depression. Your little "kill me" towards the end was so unexpected and ended up making me laugh. The whole ending was also pretty wild... What this woman in wedding dress is doing in the TARDIS???
This was the first episode of Doctor Who I ever watched. Without any context of who these people were, it was *still* devastating.
To this day, nearly two decades later, I can't listen to Doomsday (the music track that plays starting at 20:30) without feeling a squeeze in my heart. To me, this is the most beautiful piece Murray Gold has composed for the series, and that's a very high bar to clear.
Murray Golds score for this episode levels up the emotion.
Bad Wolf Bay... where astronauts shoot to thrill.
I'm so glad you're discovering why doctor who was the best show on television for a while
And she might still think it's the best show or at least a really great one when she catches up
@thepandorica1660 I think it's an okay show now sure but damn the heights make the mids look low
yep, for a while
The Doctor and Donna is one of the best team ups , we have just researched them and I'm sure you will love it.
Great reaction 🤣 I cried right along with you for the millionth time watching this episode. And yeah 😅 I agree seeing Donna right after that heartbreak was uncalled for 😅 I don't like it when the pain is undercut by humor, as much as I like Donna.
I love how the doctor says what 3 times at the end 🤣😂
Im crying again. I watched this episode when I was about 10 yrs old and cried then too.
The daleks and the Cybermen just beefing was kind funny to me
Torchwood is a spinoff show of doctor who if your interested in watching that too
I believe she is going to start alternating DW and TW starting after this episode.
Yes, she mentioned in the previous video that she's be watching Torchwood too.
also great reaction, Emme
The curse of a timelord... the doctor always feels alone
We are here
My question about there being a Torchwood in the other universe is; what was the inciting incident that caused it to be formed in that universe. We saw earlier in the season that Queen Victoria formed one version Torchwood after the werewolf incident, but specifically cited the Doctor as the main reason and enemy of Torchwood. Theoretically there isn't a Doctor in the other universe, so what was their mandate?
What a coincidence. Seeing other people's sorrow I what makes you cry. Same with me. It's very seldom that I cry for any other reason.
Three things are certain in life - death, taxes and the return of the Daleks.
And the Master.
@@miller-joelyou saying this now is pretty brave...
@@thepandorica1660 It's been known for 60 years. Nothing shocking about it.
@@miller-joelbut Emme has only seen two series of the show and it's clear she's meeting these characters for the first time.
If someone new was going to start the show, but don't know of the whole regeneration thing...would you inform them? OR would you rather not do that and have them reach a Doctor's end only to see the body change to the next incarnation?
Similar things can be said for enemies.
@@thepandorica1660 She already figured out the Daleks are always going to keep coming back. Why would you treat her like an idiot?
25:29 lol at you embodying 10 with your “What?” Perfect.
I didn’t like Rose’s line about this is when she’d pass on but it ended up being more metaphorical. I’d rather they had actually taken her out, or left that line out all together. Anyway, it was a great two episode ending of the season outside of that. Enjoyed your reaction as usual.
I was looking forward to this video. Woo Who! (Pun intended)
Bigger on the inside timelord science, always likely a prison, death as in other world, a metaphor they do that with writing, they tease us a lot XD the shopping weights get use, good mix of Daleks and Cybermen, and parallel worlds. Very touching episode for sure tissue worthy. I assumed the 3D glasess were for like particles/radiation or something, yep was that scene.
Dinna, Catherine Tate is great. :)
Now you’re in for the best two seasons of the show 🎉🎉 3 and 4 are something else!!
I love Dalek Sec (the black one). The Daleks are all independant beings but most Daleks very rarely can or will think outside of the "Dalek Imperative" which is essentially that Daleks are supreme and must destroy every other living thing in the universe that isnt a Dalek.
Dalek Sec is still driven by the urge to fullfill the Dalek Imperative but were most Daleks will be predictable and just go "exterminate", he is open to anything even smacktalking and ragebaiting. Sec is so interesting because it is pretty much the only Dalek that is different and is suppose to be and think different.
I'm not saying that on the first viewing this occurred to me, but her telling the story of how she died might have been a clue that it wasn't literal death.
Also, if you haven't guessed, there will be a lot of very emotional episodes as you watch this series.
“How did her dad know.” I assume he didn’t and Jackie just talked Pete into going back to get her
I assume Davies reckoned the audience would be too busy sobbing to think about that.
@@donaldb1 never really thought it needed explaining
That or deep down he has a father's instinct because he kinda is one to Rose
Cyberleader: Daleks, be warned. You have declared war upon the Cybermen.
Dalek Sec: This is not war. This is pest control.
Cyberleader: We have five million Cybermen. How many are you?
Dalek Sec: Four.
Cyberleader: You would destroy the Cybermen with four Daleks?
Dalek Sec: We would destroy the Cybermen with one Dalek. You are superior in only one respect.
Cyberleader: What is that?
Dalek Sec: You are better at dying. Raise communications barrier!
The conversation between The Daleks and The Cybermen never fails to make me laugh. Who knew Daleks could be so sassy lol. 🤣
ROSE: I, I love you.
DOCTOR: Quite right, too. And I suppose, if it's one last chance to say it, Rose Tyler
Even to this day, this episode and that scene still hurts. It broke my heart as a kid, I just wish he could have finished that sentence and told Rose, he loved her. 😥
Sometimes Doctor Who is fun, sometimes Doctor Who is scary, and sometimes it just rips your heart out.
We are about to meet the bride. She’s really good.
"How did her dad know?" Shhhh, don't pull at loose threads or it might fall apart 😂
I just think it's father's instinct
Daleks can't 'touch?' umm they could always open their casing and use thier tentacles to touch the Genesis Ark.....maybe?
It was Time Lord technology. The Daleks needed someone has the *other* background radiation travelling in a Tardis gives you (artron energy? Something like that). Which is why Mickey could activate it. Any of Rose, Mickey, Jackie or the Doctor would have worked to activate the Ark as it would recognize them as Time Lord given they've all travelled in the Tardis - which normally only Time Lords could ever do, the rest of them would never pick up hitchhikers like the Doctor does.
Daleks can time travel and have done so, plus it was never stated that they needed artron energy, just someone with 'void stuff' and they had that
@phantomsidious2934 Not void stuff. The Doctor and Rose compared background radiation (artron energy) TO void stuff, but it's a different thing.
ahhh the CTRL+Z button in doctor who. gotta love it.
Hello Emme!😊 Great reactions to the season two finale that was quite a big episode!!!🎬👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Daleks may be bad guys but they've got some great zingers.
If you thought it through, the Cybermen upgraded on THIS planet Earth shouldn't have any Void stuff - the series 3 short book 'Made of Steel' deals with them.
It depends on whether they brought the non-human bits with them when they came or manufactures those after they arrived.