'Falcons created a DIFFICULT SITUATION for their coaching staff' - Graziano on QB situation | Get Up
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- Опубликовано: 18 май 2024
- Dan Graziano, Damien Woody and Harry Douglas join Mike Greenberg on Get Up for a segment of Fact or Fiction and discuss the Xavier Worthy's effect on the Chiefs offense.
0:00 Is J.J. McCarthy a legit OROY candidate?
1:05 Are the Bears a playoff team with Caleb Williams?
2:00 Did Falcons make a mistake drafting Michael Penix Jr.?
5:44 Have Falcons created a QB controversy?
7:11 What effect can Xavier Worthy have on Chiefs offense?
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The GM for the Falcons will either look like a genius for the pick and have their QB (Penix Jr.) for the future, or not and will not only lose his job, but set the franchise back at least a couple of years because it’s usually these types of decisions that gets General Managers fired.
The thing is the franchise has been set back since Matt Ryan left because they had no plan at QB. Now they have a plan and people are still complaining. They are bringing in a good QB for now and can trade after his guarantees run out and have somebody to build up they actually believe in. It’s a solid roster and they been 7-9/7-10….with Kirk can they make a couple of playoff runs and turn it over to Penix while the core is still all in their 20s.
Seeing as Raheem Morris got absolutely screwed when it came to QBs or a franchise guy before, they have a long term plan. Falcons could have made the playoffs with better QB play. They have it now, and they’re developing a successor. If the O-line holds and the draft picks work out, Fontenot looks like a genius.
They should fire the Falcons GM right now. The falcons made an incredibly dumb move. They have all that money invested in Cousins who is a good QB. The Falcons have great weapons on offense and now a good qb. The falcons should have trade down and collected a bunch of players to improve the defense and win that weak division pretty easy. I would also be worried about Penix injury tendencies. I can see why up until now the falcons are not a very good organization.
@@stephenpatrick2535yeah except Kirk has a no trade clause so no way anyone can convince us that the Falcons had this grand master plan. Nothing about this made any sense and it was clearly a last second panic pick
@@antoniowilliams5008 Aaron Rodgers had no trade clause and got traded. He’ll get traded to his preferred team
QBs are so sensitive. EVERY other position gets new competition annually. Get used to it!
For months y’all talked about the Falcons not having a quarterback now you’re complaining because they have 2.🤦♂️
Great troll comment. Please don’t be serious
Holy. Yes its good to have two, especially with injuries happening. BUT WHY PAY 100M GUARANTEED and draft a qb at 8. He is and old dradt porspect too. The GM saying he can sit 5 years until he plays, he will be pushing 30! Dumbest move ever. You are wasting one of your asests no matter what. Yes if he becomes mahomes no one will bat an eye, but that type of move gets a GM fired if he can't be that upper echelon. Time will tell.
Is this a serious comment?
Bro, when you have 2, you still have none lol. Both 100+ M and a Top10 pick are both too valuable to waste, and they spent both, meaning one will be wasted inevitably
ESPN loves their narrative stories more than actual reporting facts. and its even crazier cause its only been a week since the draft
I disagree. Penix is actually tuff😂
He tuff but the situation messy lol he gone start when he 29 😂
No he is but he’d be starting in Vegas or Minnesota. Why pay Kirk then get him! He’s already pro ready
@@roee3xs51626 but still
@@roee3xs516It may be this year! You don’t know
@@deelawton4 ima give the benefit of the doubt cuz Kirk got me iffy this year
Can't wait for tomorrow's segment on (yet again) Michael Penix and the falcons
Right!!!
Greeney will not let this go smh he's gotta move on l he's not even a falcon fan
No they didn’t. They created a difficult situation for Kirk Cousins 😂😂😂 huge difference!!! While he’s shocked and disappointed he needs to just focus on help getting them to the playoffs. This is the most talented roster he’s ever been on and they are young with a rising defense that’s just missing edge rushers. He literally has weapons at RB, WR, TE & they are versatile. Of course there’s no JJ on the team but as far as the offense and then having a nice O-line they better make the post season. Where Kirk fails at is the playoffs. ATL might enter season with Kirk starting but Penix Jr. Starting come postseason 🤷🏾♂️
they're just blowing the whole thing out of proportion just off the reports of kirk cousins being confused and frustrated off MP being drafted. the "situation" they claim the falcons created happens quite frequently in NFL and its just the nature of the sport. mad dog summed up the situation quite well minus his hysterical antics
Saying it's fact the bears going to the playoffs is wild
“Well then why is he on the team” is crazy like he doesn’t know how the NFL works. TH or MPJr 🤔
The people you hwar laughing around the set always makes this for me😂😂
Good coaching staff can do anything it’s good in the resume
Media really milking this. Penix isn’t gonna start any kind of drama.
Just like the Caleb glazing. It's May. Nothing is happening rn. It's annoying I know
Didn't you pose this same question last week Greeny? Please discuss some new topics fellas, geez!!!
Penix is going to be a top-15 guy.. like Kirk is/was.. but spending $50mill the next two years & killing cap space when they could have brought in someone cheaper (like Minshew or Russell Wilson) and use that $$ on other needs would have been the play. They've always had the #8 pick, and Penix was -120 to be a 1st rounder up until the week before the draft.. he was ALWAYS going to be there at #8
Exactly its just a huge salary handcuff which will prevent them from adding or retaining talent in other positions
But the falcons aren’t paying anybody right now big money except two guys
@@Dom-pc7ec honestly it's only partially about money. The team philosophy is so confusing, do they want to win now or in the future? Either you have a top 10 pick sitting on the bench which could've been someone who helps you win now, or you have a 50 mil QB riding the bench either way it's just a waste of resources. You can't fully focus on winning now if you're also trying to rebuild for the future
Imagine spending $100 million dollars on a 1 year contract QB lol dumb Falcons 😂
It was a shocking pic but it's not a bad pick. I always wondered why they kept devaluing Penix Jr. In the first place. He threw dang near 5,000 yards in a season. Kirk is also 36 idk when people expected them to take a QB.
I’m a Falcons fan and while it’s not the pick I would’ve made given you gave Cousins $100 million.
However the whole “you gotta have a good rookie QB on a rookie deal to compete bla bla bla. That’s a LUXURY! You hope to be able to hit on a rookie QB his first few years. That’s nice and all but the main thing is you FIND A FRANCHISE QB. That’s hard enough to do. It’s ridiculous hearing these media guys get picky and tell everyone how exactly they have to find that QB. If you find one and he’s a star from year one then great. But the main thing is you gotta GET HIM IN THE BUILDING. All the maximize contract value is a luxury.
Pretty sure the most important part of the draft is finding players that will make your team successful. Kirk also didn't "move his family from Minnesota where they were happy" his wife's family already lived here and they spent their offseasons there anyways. I'm sure they would've ended up there after he retires anyways. You can spout whatever nonsense you want right now though, we'll replay it when it all works out great later.
Espn making up drama like always
He'll start in 2 years or if cousins gets hurt
Stop it
Same subject, same answers, different cast
The amount of people concerned about money that isnt theirs is scary.
Kirk tore his Achilles in November.. is he even to be ready to play come August ?? The Achilles does have a 12-15 month recovery timeline
i dont think the maximizing the value of ur draft is anywhere near as important as ensuring you have a franchise qb for multiple years. as a saints fan, just look at our 2017 draft where the saints hit on every pick and even tho we had drew brees, not trading up for mahomes (even tho they liked him a lot) would end up haunting them to this day and that holds up true even tho that 2017 draft class for the saints was beyond phenomenal.
Now I know why Graz is not a GM anymore 😂
Kirk Cousins is 36 years old. They said he moved his family like he was going to do another 10 years 😂. And this defense talk needs to stop. Who in that draft is carrying the Atlanta Falcons to the Super Bowl? NOBODY! They did the right thing they need a dog at qb and they got one.
It not that he was drafted nor was it because Kirk was signed. It’s because they did both. That’s the reason people are saying that this organization had no plan and that they react to situations instead of preparing for them.
Alot of people don't remember when kirk cousins is the same dude that threw them under the bus at his press conference
This is a big boys league cousins is a class act. The young man will learn a lot from him. This is a non-story..
Why they cut Damien woody take early lol anybody think Penix was a bad pick don’t know football
Market goes UP like EVERY YEAR. That contract is front loaded for a reason I give him a year and a half before penix is starting
The last time they opened a NFL show with Minnesota purple TVs were in black & white
Why is everyone acting like the falcons were a def player away from winning a superbowl? Im with Mad dog who cares, kirk is getting paid so whats the problem?
I think at this time it was a mistake. If Kirk Cousins has one bad game the falcons fans will be calling for Penix. It will bring up memories of the last talented left handed QB the falcons had although they are very different. I can see the problems in Atlanta coming pretty quickly.
Regardless he’s a statue who will not finish the season anyway. Get the kid on the field
Hopefully Xavier Worthy understands that you actually need to cross the line WITH the ball!
No the 24hr news cycle is making one though
I think the media is creating a QB controversy. Kirk is for now and Michael is for later.
All the drama makes Penix a bad pick. The thoughts of “what if” are now rooted in Cousins, coaching staff, and the players if things don’t work out as they should be.
Please tell me beside AR, Russell, Pat who won a sb on a rookie deal?
Tom Brady
@@rollinwithdarich0s Tom Brady was not under this new structure and was a late round pick good one though I did think of Tom.....I didn't want to put AR in there bc this new structure took place after Stafford got drafted
His family already lived in Atlanta and he was only gonna be in Atl 2 yrs anyway he is freakin 36 yrs old for gods sake
So don't pay him $100 million. We have no salary cap space now with this massive contract.
The dumbest thing is they paid Kirk all that money to be a bridge. Y’all could have got Minshew to do that
The know nothing Sports Media is creating a difficult situation for the Falcons coaching staff. Because now if anything remotely goes wrong, even though that's the nature of Sports, they will jump down every throats pretending they Knew everything.
There will be a serious problem. First day of practice when they see Penix has a Cannon compared to Kirk’s duck arm. The teammates will notice immediately.
Okay and? They have their own jobs that they are getting paid to do…
The funny thing is.
They could have gotten a much cheaper option than Kirk Cousins 😂.
Ryan Tannehill would have done the same thing. He isn’t as good as Kirk but he is close enough.
I see ESPN still milking this for content. If they don’t like the pick why continue to talk about it.
Preach!!!
Because they hate all things Atlanta sports!!
7:03 Harry Douglas gets it and is trying to not say the quiet part out loud. It’s not just Cousins coming off a pretty significant injury, the type of injury it is has a very high probability of either re-tearing the same Achilles or tearing the other one due to overcompensation. QB “market” dictated that his contract was going to be expensive, so they did what they could going from no viable starters to one now and for the future. They’re following the packers model and the longer Penix Jr goes not getting injured (2 years) is a good thing.
The packers never drafted a QB in the top 10 after giving $100 million guaranteed to a guy at the same position they just signed the previous month.
No sympathy for Cousins. He had a great situation in Minny but being the ultimate mercenary had to get every last cent he could.
Adding a quality defensive player gets you closer to where you want to be than adding a backup quarterback or turning the dude you just paid 100 million GUARANTEED into a backup slash bridge QB. Damien Woody you're way too smart to not acknowledge that better Drafting and adding quality defensive rush presence could help a team that went 8-9 win 3
More games than last season and possibly compete for an nfc championship game. Like yall be so quick to ignore the obvious
Adults don't just live in the moment; Kirk was always going to be a bridge.
I'm tired of the Kirk Cousins BS. The convinced the Falcons to pay him $180 million for decent play and one playoff win in his career. He is going to be in Atlanta for at least two years, and if he doesn't get the job done, they have a replacement waiting in the wings. I don't blame the Falcons one bit becaue A) Cousins is coming off an Achilles tear and B) you know they have watched what the Packers have done, drafting QBs four years before the current starter leaves. It helped the Packers stay out of the situation the Jets, Steelers and others have found themselves in with no QB to take over.
Anything to keep the NFL conversation over. Let the off-season be the off-season and stop trying to force narratives that aren't there
Yea the only mistake is picking Kirk
Penix is the real deal
This is the offseason Boys and girls. Training camp ain’t even started and we got a QB controversy go back to talking about the cowboys
Williams is a generational talent for the same reason Manziel won the Heisman... THE ESPN hype train is behind him. Weird that WNBA players talking about Clark getting the rookie treatment but nobody thinks D lineman arent drooling waiting on Caleb 🙄👍👍
Nevermind the film and games. People always hate on what they can’t personally do though…
@@SunniMerlot I'm an Irish fan, that game made me laugh SO hard. He met a pro style defense and looked average at best 👍
@@SunniMerlotyou’re right everyone who offers critique is apparently hating and the reason why we do it is because we are jealous…you’re a moron lmfao
Drake will be the best qb in this draft when we are looking at it 3 yrs from now
If their is then wow what a disaster
The Bears aren’t a playoff team I mean they play in division where GB and the Lions are clearly better. Worthy in KC is DeSean 2.0 and that’s what KC definitely needs
Cousins is disgusted that the Falcons drafted a QB instead of a WR or offensive line or better yet defense. But anyways here are Cousins stats if he’s the starting QB
Cousins 2024 stats:
5,600 yards
45 TD
5 INT
120.0 Rating
7-10 record
You trippin on the stats my guy
@@Witherspoon2237 do you know a sense of humor bud?
NFC North is tough
Kirk was going to the highest bidder, he wanted every last penny.
Mad Dog %100
4:46 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
_GO RAIDEEEEEERRRRRRSSSS_
Douglas looks like a grown Kevin Hart
The problem with the Falcons was the head coach!!!!!
qbs get injured u need inventory
No way people are defending the Penix pick in this video AND in the comments. They picked the 24 year old qb with two acl tears while 21 year old jj mccarthy was right there. If Penix sits for three years he'll be 27 when he takes the reins. At 8th overall when you needed help on defense or even take odunze to round out your receiver group? HORRIBLE pick
Not for the Falcons, for you yeah
Cousins is not a playoff winning QB. Penix is the future.
None of the QBs will be ROY candidates... C'mon man
Lets be real cousins is a low tier starter so u woukd think penix talent wise should be able to fight for starter but wtf are the doing payong kirk 180 mil, it kills the whole cheap young qb advantage
I feel it was worse to pay Kirk that money regardless. Just wasn’t smart in the first place.
Let's be real about that notion teams don't win super bowls with young QBs on Rookie deals it was only AR, Russell, and Pat you can get there but few win it... He was always a bridge
PENIX for the 🏆
I wish Greeny would just shut up about Penix. He's trying to hard to push that narrative and it's annoying.
Kirk is old af bro he ain’t no franchisee qb and he honestly will suck in Atlanta. Vikings where good for him. Atlanta is not what he had in Minnesota
Cousins is NOT an ultimate pro.... Wtf is this guy drunk?
Pretty simple. You need a QB. Kirk is a available. So you sign him. But would you like 4 years of Cousins or ideally cut it down to 2? (because as long as Cousins is QB you won't win a playoff game). So you draft a QB that might be able to win a playoff game. Because that is the goal of the season in the first place. To position yourself to advance + win playoff games. After 12 years Kirk isn't going to change. So no, he won't win any playoff games regardless of what team he is on. But he can keep the seat warm until you find someone that can.
Is ESPN trying to fabricate another QB controversy story again?
Harry is a lame he is to bias towards his falcons he a weak link on ESPN way to predictable... drafting a rookie QB after signing one doesn't help Falcons win now! Just like cousins can get hurt so can Penix who is himself.
So Kirk helps them win now?
No. Stop it.
Bears are still at the bottom of their division just look at the spreads
ESPN is nothing but drama
Harry Douglas, like Terry Fontonet has NO idea how the draft works in 2024
Contversy
You can’t even spell, sums it for me
falcons have created a mess for the locker room.
Nah, did you not hear mad dog, he summed it up for the illiterate people btw
@@deelawton4he did year Mad Dog and yes, this is a messy situation.
@@MichaelWalker-wu2pq I don’t care. Got my quarterback of the future 😊
The players in the locker room won't care as much as the haters
Does ESPN know how to spell?
I think it shows a lack of faith in heinicke nit cousins. But still, picking a backup qb at eight is a reach 😂