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In this video we take a look at the M1917 Enfield, or P17 as it is better known as and detail this rifle's unique wartime history and take some shots out to 600 yards. Lets just say that this rifle performs. Stay tuned, much more on the way.
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![U.S. Rifle M1917 [Sgt. York's WW1 Medal of Honor Story ] to 500yds: Practical Accuracy](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/OYunBYZyCY8/mqdefault.jpg)
Geez based on chads 600 yard group that rifle is shooting 1 MOA with a 99 year old barrel. Truth to the saying they don't make them like they used to.
Soylent Green unless the barrel was swapped in ww2 as many were.
Michael Harmon in the video when they do an overview of the rifle the barrel is marked 9-18 with the flaming bomb logo. That barrel is from September of 1918.
ahh hadn't watched it yet so I was mostly talking out my ass. my computer was updating and I didn't want to watch it on my phone so I went to the comment section while I waited for the computer to come back online.
Any Mosin can put every bullet in the same hole at any distance
+Joseph Stalin
I can miss any target with any gun at any distance every time - takes focused determination though.
about ten years ago, my wife and i went to Pall Mall TN, which is on the Wolf River, driving down the road we saw a sign that said " this way to the home of Sgt. Alvin York" so i said we have to go. sure enough we get to a large house with property on both sides of the wolf river and read a sign that said the governor of TN had given the house to the York family upon Alvin's return from WW1. ihad to go to the front door, i had to knock, a gentlemen answered the door and invited us in! It was Alvin's son, Woodrow Wilson York. he gave us a tour of there house, then invited us to go "visit" his father in the family plot out back. it was amazing to just be there, in the home of a true American hero.
daniel boyd cooper Awesome!
I worked at a Harley dealership for a while and got to serve York's great nephew. I jokingly asked if he was related to Sgt York because of his last name and he just nonchalantly was like "yep, my great uncle" xD I was like "oh shit dude, i was joking" hahaha
Awesome story!
@Oskar Dirlewanger Be quiet.
The wind really picked up at the end that's why .
Don't get me wrong. I love all you guys, but it's really great to see Kevin opening this video. I can also almost hear Chad foaming from the mouth wanting to shoot that beautiful Enfield.
In a recent trade I acquired a P14 with a rusted out barrel, It was a sporter made by BSA (it has their logo engraved on the action) and it had no rear sight 'ears' as the rear sight was on the barrel, which I had not seen before.
Having been gifted a .308W barrel some 20-odd years ago, I did a bit of measuring and realised that I could machine it to fit the P14 action, with which I was familiar having owned p14s before. It only required a small alteration to the extractor to handle the rimless round.The most difficult bit to get right was putting a spacer in the magazine, altering the platform, feed ramp and receiver rails to get the .308 rounds to feed. I had to machine up a set of scope bases and fit them as well... not too hard. Got it all sorted out now so waiting for a fine day to take it to the range. 🙂
IV8888...I've been subbed to your channel for quite some time now. I would like to see more of Kevin in the video's. I think he changes things up a bit, which is a nice change. Kevin, is knowledgeable about firearms, as well as he comes off as being very humble. I thought it was funny when Kevin said, the Enfield kicked like a mule, due to the chambering being 30-06 with a metal butt plate. Then he shoots the Enfield and you hardly see any recoil affect in his shoulder/body. Again, Kevin is a new face that fits in with the channel quite well. Aiding and contributing to the chemistry of the channel. Just my opinion, however I bet other viewers would agree with my assessment.
Rick S or girls in bikinis
I totally agree with Rick S you should have Kevin on the show more often. Like when one of you is out of town, then the other and Kevin can keep the episodes coming even if it is just a history of a type of gun or a certain designers story.
I been waiting for this video. This gun is underrated as fuck.
don't stress it kevin. somebody has to provide suppression fire.
This must be one of the most accurate milsurps you ever shot at this distance. Beautiful rifle BTW. They are popular here in Holland. The Dutch Airforce used them right after WW2 so we have a lot of them. All in .30-06.
One of WW1’s most underrated rifles.
nit picky detail: this isn't a P17, it's a model 1917
"P" stands for "pattern" and is a British designation
the P14 was the British rifle in 303
the P13 was the original version in 280 British/Enfield, that was supposed to replace the 303
it was a large, powerful cartridge, which explains the large magazine & sturdy action
actually 276 Padersen cartridge not 280
@@jurajokasa834 the 276 was intended for the P13.
What a beautiful rifle, great vid
YESSSSS!!! I friggin LOVE the M1917! One of my favorite milsurp rifles. The damn thing feels like a war club compared to other milsurp rifles. This was a cool video, thank you for posting it.
The Audio sounds better than usual in this video hands down. Make all your videos like this from now on I love it!
Thanks for bringing in Kevin for this vid. He seems like a cool dude.
netflix netflix I don't know. He seems kinda shady to me.
Julian Hatcher always swore the M1917 was more accurate than the 1903 because of its 5-groove Enfield rifling.
dbmail545 that's quite possible. it may have a tighter twist rate if it used 03 barrels reamed out for 30-06. Idk much about milsurp
but generally 5r rifling and a tight twist work wonders
dbmail545 they changed the rifling in many of these guns. They still outperformed the 1903.
I have posted a couple times and came back to this video this morning after spending a week with mine...wish I could post pics, at 100 yards I was shooting through the same ragged hole many times, less than an inch with most shots. These rifles have been the most impressive I have seen them shoot really. Kevin didn't have the experience at 600 that Eric and Chad, but he probably did better than I would have at that distance on camera lol.
Amy J. Delevingne and with milsurp rifles, there's been many years and many wars fought with these guns...lots of variance in round count and maintenance of each gun. Like I have said in earlier comments, my 1903 is just pitiful and gives me a negative view of the rifle that so many claim to be the most accurate of US bolt guns (and rifles in general). I have an M39, 91/30s, a K98, K31, Garand, 30-40 Krag....and many others. And after all these years, my m1917 simply takes the cake when it comes to shooting for accuracy and distance in my own experiences. I don't have a Hakim or Ljungman rifle, but I have shot, owned or currently own many of the rifles that Chad and Eric shoot. In 30 years, none of them perform to the level the m1917 does for me. Could be also the gun "just fits" my body, who knows.
Amy J. Delevingne paid about $300 for my m1917 about 10 years ago. It's barrel is marked 9-18, two months before WW1 ended.
that's a shoulder bruiser for sure.
Not as bad as the 03, though. The added weight makes a difference.
Agreed, I have both and the 1917 is softer shooting. More accurate in my hands as well. The old girl turns 100 next year haha.
Mrgunsngear Channel my 1917 is actually one of the pussycats of my arsenal when it comes to felt recoil. Mostly due to its weight.
Mrgunsngear Channel cathal like you girl :)
Indubitably.
I love the history Kevin brings to the table. great addition to the iraqveteran8888 team
I love mine. Great sights, high quality manufacturing. It is a tad heavy, but that helps with stability. Mine is a Remington with a low 3-digit serial #☺. Very likely it never went overseas- in great condition. . Often on military contracts, the first few hundred are kept for awhile for reference and to verify spec, then used for stateside base or munitions plant guarding. I would love to try mine at 300 yds and farther. My club only goes to maybe 120. My No.4 Mk1 SMLE is very nice too, but i think i prefer this one. I need to give it some exercise. Great video. Looked like the breeze was causing some issues.
I was wondering if Kevin was ever going to make an appearance again after the cap and ball revolver video. Welcome back Kevin.
Great video for a often overlooked war horse. I've got a sporterized 17 with a original barrel cut down to 22" and recessed target crown my grandfather and myself did with a dill and basic lapping tools in the basement. With choice hand loaded 170grn Sierra hp boat tails it will easily make contact @ 700yds(furthest I've shot this rifle) on 16" steel. The cool thing is inside the 600yd line it's capable of 1"moa and will consistently hold 5" groups or a little under at 500yds with the 100 year old original #'s matching barrel. To me that's the crazy yet fascinating thing about these rifles, everyone you hear talk about them hold them in high regards for accuracy and dependability along with being robust battle rifles. This is my first 17 but not my last. Thanks guy's for all you do and the clean family channel you keep.
Great video. I'm not impartial. I have my Dad's two Eddystones and a Win. P14. One '17 has been Deer hunting with me since this yrs opening day. I love the American Enfields!
Thanks!
They finally did my gun! The one under my dads bed my whole life that he finally gave me as an adult. I love shooting it it's just so much fun!
I have pictures of my father undergoing basic training at Aberdeen Proving Grounds in the spring of 1942 and he was armed with the 1917 Enfield. I was able to handle one when in high school since our American Legion Post had some with which the fired the three volleys ate funerals. My first year in college ROTC we were taught drill and ceremonies with the M-1 and I was struck at how much its stock profile was so similar to the 1917 Enfield with that little bulge underneath the bolt. I always wondered if the design was influenced by the Enfield so that it could use an eight round clip rather than loading with the five round strippers. Keep up the good work
I have a M1917 Enfield ( P17) made by Eddystone 6-1918 with tailored ammo it will consistently print 1 inch groups at 100 yards. It is all military and still sports the original WWI bluing , most were reworked and parkerized for WWII service. These rifles are extremely accurate and well built they were a great rifle and served our military well.
11:39 u guys respect each other in a respectable way. Buddys for life. something people envy. Keep it up
Good to see Kevin out there. Been too long.
Backwoodsboy405 Don't put Chad down. He's an excellent marksman.
A boy and his rifle. Feel the same way! Great way to mix things up.
I don't mind who's shooting, just as long as they are shooting guns and that they aren't useless.
This firearm has a strong action. I have a friend who has an old sporterized version built on an M1917 action chambered in 300 H&H. I have heard you can build a 505 Gibbs using this action.
600 yards with open sites. Keven, you did fine. Anywhere near that gong is good shooting. Chad and Eric have been at it for a while. They have good days and bad days like everyone else. And i watch them all.
I like the fact that your videos don't edit out the misses
Do a 5 guns video about hunting rifles
Kevin great gun, I own one. I'll give you some unsolicited advice as a firearms trainer for the last 3 years. The reason that you were all over the place is that you didn't follow the last marksmanship fundamental, follow through. You would pull the trigger and immediately drop your hand from the rifle and raise your head off of the stock. You end up moving the rifle the round leaves the barrel. Practice maintaining your cheek weld, pull your trigger straight to the rear and hold it there until the round has hit the berm and you will see improved accuracy. Good luck.
For being a 2 year old comment, i must thank you. It has helped me be more consistent at longer ranges, best of wishes my friend
@@7.62eclipse8 gabagool
My dad just gave me his for my birthday. I grew up shooting it. Love this gun.
one of these rifles my grandpa had sporterized in the 50s ended up being my first deer rifle, no scope just a Lyman peep sight! not a chance I'd ever part with it!!!
Always good to see other friends of the show on camera, thanks for the video guys!
I have an Eddystone M1917, in excellent condition, better than this one. I hand load with Hornady ELD-X 200gr bullets. It is so accurate and reliably hit anything within 30/06 ranges. My most favorite rifle in my collection, partly due to it's reliability and accuracy.
What is one like yours worth if you don't mind me asking?
@@sk8official around 1500-2000$ today.
I deer hunt (in GA) with this rifle and love it.
I was shooting my 1943 Mosin nagant yesterday and I actually had a casing split on me after firing it. I was surprised it didn't explode the chamber or anything.
I just acquired a model 1917 Winchester Carbine manufactured in January 1919 still in the cosmoline. I'm not finding anything on the carbine other than they made them. It has a 21 inch barrel and a Springfield 03 front sight. Iam in the process of "digging" the cosmoline off the receiver and out of the barrel the Serial number is among the last seven thousand Winchester 1917 manufactured. I am enjoying the many videos suddenly appearing on the Enfield model of 1917.
Had one when I was a kid - SO heavy ! What a club, but in 30 06 it shot well.
Kevin's a natural good job 👍👏🇺🇸
ERIC, amazing and surprising accuracy at 600 yds. IMPRESSIVE !! You can't do better with any weapon & iron sights.
I like Kevin. Would not mind to see more of him!
Thank for the Candrsenal shoutout love that channel
My g'father was one of the original Belleau Wood Marines. I have verified this anecdote of his. Apparently a day or two before the battle started, there was a group of German officers watching them from about 1000 yards away. Bored Marines being bored Marines, started shooting at them. I do not believe anyone was hit, but they got close enough to make them scatter.
Kevin looks like the kid off a Christmas Story
Chad the Gopher slayer!!!! Sounds like a man can Tshirt idea
Love the 1917! In my opinion it's one of best looking milsurp rifles. Mine shoots just as good and has a 10/17 barrel
Great job Kevin, like your style. Mighty fine shootin' Eric.
I went to a drill meet at Alvin York high school in Yorktown Tennessee twice and we got to do a cool history lesson and they were great hosts it was a fun drill meet
This guy was refreshing AF.
These were heavily used in WWII for basic marksmanship training. My father who was in the USAAF Never qualified with a Garand. I have a pic of his Basic training CO with Enfield's. If I can find it I'll copy it and send it to the Boss. Best note ..Sgt York had one when he did his action to be awarded the MOH. He did not use a Springfield.
I have an M17 similar to Kevins rifle. While mine has good rifling but a dark bore, it shoots like yours , to the mark! I put the "cock on opening" striker in it awhile back, and I like it even more. Someone replaced the stock and refinished the metal years ago so she looks as pretty as she shoots. Good video!
I have an Eddystone 1917 (30.06)that has been "sporterized". It is a beautiful gun, with a scope. (The scope is not a good one).
I purchased my father in laws collection after he passed away. The gun is in what I would call "pristine" condition. Beautiful gun.
It is for sale as I have no need for it. 400.00. (Can't hunt with it in Ohio). I may keep it but it for now, it's on the auction block.
one of the many awesome american mil surp rifles out there.
You guys should revisit the Gew98 at those ranges.
as us 1917 lovers say. in WW1 the 1903 Springfield got all the glory while the 1917 did all the fighting.
the 1917 was so close to being the standard infantry rifle for the us but lost out because it was a British design. despite being far superior to the 1903
Should have mentioned Francis Pegahmagabow...if you haven't look him up. Proud Canadian 🇨🇦
Yep...I need one
My grandfather gave me a 1917 sporter in .303. I love the sights and found it to be a fantastic rifle. A bit on the heavy side, but I would always take this rifle over my dad's 7600 in 30-06. He would try and convince me to take the 30-06 because it had an optic, but I would say, "no thanks dad, I got the best rifle around because pop-pop gave it to me"
The french mas in 7.5 x 54 mm is overlooked
Moar Kevin! Humorous, meek, and knowledgeable, he's a great addition to the videos.
I like Kevin i hope to see him in more videos :D
I got one back in the mid 80s that had a split barrel and no wood I built it back to original. It is a shooter and I have shot it out to a 1000 yd
Mine is an eddystone love that gun. Made my kids shoot it to learn to keep the stock tight to their shoulder.
great chemistry, great content, great show.
My Grandfather fought in WWI in the Army. He won a Silver Star and Purple Heart. When I was young whenever anybody mentioned Sergeant York, Grand Dad would fume! He told us that those Germans had already surrendered to Army units in front of York and that the Army had disarmed the Germans and sent them back to our lines. Grand Dad insisted that York simply killed a whole lot of unarmed German soldiers. The Marines gave York a medal to cover up the atrocity. That's easier to believe that all that Kentucky marksmanship. Oh well, history is history.
Wow that gofer headshot right off the rip. And then the back 2 back. O.O
Nice!!!! Ralphie from "A Christmas Story" is all grown up now and shooting the big guns.
I bet you miss that Daisy Red Ryder LOL
+1 for C&Rsnal!
AND good video guys!
Ya know, when we see WWI movies, we always see our US troops with Springfields. The truth is that less than 1/4 of our troops ever got issued 1903's. Virtually all our armed forces in WWI were issued M17. Springfields, great rifles, were ripoffs of the Mauser. To the point that Springfield, even during the war, had to pay Mauser. Springfield were essentially sued by Mauser, and lost.
Also good to see more Kevin on the Channel =]
Seeing this after the Gewehr 98 video is kinda crazy
I'm the 56th view, I'm a true fan you plebs!
Its Kevins glasses shifting around thats changing his sight alignment every shot. This is only a problem with dioptic sights tho.
I really want a p14 or an m17. Pretty rare here in Australia though.
Wish my friends had the same reverence for these old guns like I do
Awesome, I just pulled my dad's 1917 out of his closet and shot a hundred rounds through it earlier this month. Love this rifle. Where can one obtain stripper clips ?
Now this is the sort of shooting I like to see. Six-hundred yards is where things start to get interesting. And I'm so glad to see that gopher finally get what he deserved.
Wow nice shooting
Kevin you're not following up your shots. You pull the trigger a little too hard then you let go of the rifle. Slow down and keep hold of your grip.
One more minor factoid: You can totally use Swedish Mauser clips on these rifles.
Dude, Kevin looks like Ralphie from A Christmas Story!
Bring Kevin back some more.
Great shooting guys
Probably the most underrated milsurp rifle. From a cost/performance AND history standpoint.... Contrary to popular belief these were more commonly issued than 1903s to US troops. Same thing with the 1917 revolver vs the Colt 1911. The stop gaps were used more than the 'real guns'! Anyway I think Lee Enfield fanboys would get an aneurysm if they found out the British were planning to replace it with a Mauser style rifle pre-WWI. Shhh dont tell them lol.
Good to see Kevin in a video.
Ayy enfield a gun originally designed and manufactured in enfield, London which is where i live
They are great rifles... I've had two of them in .303... the P14.
The actions are brute strong and very long so they are often used to make big magnum rifles for Africa in calibres like .458 Lott etc.
The 30-06 is accurate to 1000yards.... and so is the .303 for that matter.... The accuracy shown is typical for an M17/P14...
Kevin looks like Ralphie from Christmas Story after his air rifle addiction went nuclear.
These are great rifles, I really like my own (a Winchester variant), As you say, very accurate. An after market firing pin assembly called a speed lock is available for these. It converts the gun to cock on open and decreases firing time.
To call it a "P-17" is wrong, it is an M-1917. P=Pattern for British nomenclature, M=Model American nomenclature.
Lots of fun. I like these M1917 rifles especially the sights. The Enfield #4 Mk 1 had a upgraded rear sight to this with 1/2 moa click adjustable dial on the top and Parker and Hale has a factory style replacement with 1/2 moa click adjustment for elevation and windage. I would would like to get one of these and upgrade the rear sight and if it needs a barrel replace with a criterion or Krieger otherwise keep it factory. Do you know if the Enfield sights are interchangeable? Looks the same we just added more protection. Thanks for sharing
I love Kevin's perspective on the history. It goes well with knowledge base.
6+1?
7 min 35 seconds
Logan Barnette yup. 6 in the magazine and you can put one in the chamber if you want for 7.
you should look up the P13 program. The rifles were origionally made in .276 British
Hype!!
My question was if so many 1917 Enfields were made during WWI why weren't more issued in the beginning of WWII like the 1903 Springfield. Marines were still using 03 Springfields up until 1942. I did read some Artillery Mortarmen reserve units and rear echelon personnel in the U.S Army were issued 1917 Enfields in The European Theater.
I love this gun
I just bought one of these today!
I've got one of these but made by Winchester in July 1918.
I like Kevin, seems like a down to earth guy. I think Eric and Chad need to do another video on the 1903a3 and take it out to 600 yards.