Dan Mink, thank you very much for this and all of your instructional videos. I used to practice trick roping back in the 1990s and I was ok at it, but then LIFE got in the way of me doing it. Now, I still have some combat injuries that will challenge me getting back to trick roping, but my wife and I have a horse farm in the middle of nowhere and now is the time, here is the place to begin again, and your videos are a key part of my plans. In Cherokee, thank you is wado for your excellent roping skills, plus your laid back manner of teaching makes your videos the only ones I choose to learn from. Wish me luck, and again, my sincere thanks!
This man deserve a damn award for these instructional videos because when i got my first trick rope in 2015 there only 2 instructional videos i could find 1 was for was for a flat loop the other a vertical loop nd i had them figured pretty quick so i spent a lil over a year tryin to teach myself other tricks from watchin a this 10 mins long video of a Mexican feller ropin thru the whole video doin alot of different tricks but never sayin a word nd i would watch it over nd over tryin to learn the butterfly as my next trick but my rope got destroyed nd i didnt get another for years later and I got on here to look up videos soon as I got the ropes that I got now and within 2 days of watching this video ive gotten the butterfly close to perfected so I would like to tell you thank you so much for the information that you're providing thru these videos it makes a world of difference so again i say Thank You
HI Rusty, Congratulations on your Butterfly. You set a goal and achieved it. In two days no less! That's exciting. Watching these tricks with no explanation doesn't really work does it? Especially when you are an American Style roper watching a Charro. The Mexican rope and Honda are totally different than the spot cord and our honda. The Mexican burner on their honda grips the rope in a "V" shape not in an islet shape like ours. It allows them to perform the same trick at different speeds without the honda slipping. We are more limited given the fact that our honda slides so easily. Are you thinking about the Arrowhead next? And, you are very welcome.
@@rhinestoneropers9204 yea its made a world of difference i had come a good distance on the butterfly before losin that rope but nothin was makin sense lol for good reason i now understand but i had nobody to ask i was introduced to rodeo nd the like from settin up arenas for Kings Bros Rodeo but the only 1 that knew anything of trick ropin was this real old man name Roy Lee King the oldest of the two King Bros that couldnt really do much speaking one day 3 or 4 was doin best of 5 headin a dummy well Roy Lee had picked up a this old sniff 4 strand nd starts doin a butterfly nd thats what made me wanna do it before that i knew nothin of such a thing but see Roy Lee couldnt hear hardly at all nd i asked enough questions about it to agrovate him of me so i never had anybody to tell anything about trick ropin other than what i could teach myself lol i was hopeless ive always badly desired the knowledge nd ability. So I bought that first rope nd you know the rest. You sharin this information will be the reason i learn how to do this i knew that the moment i watch this video so i just had to say thank you nd really cant say it enough so if you wouldnt mind me askin you before answerin. Which tricks would you suggest i work on next and in which order?
@@rhinestoneropers9204 You'll have to exscuse my punctuation and or spelling I've never been much good at it and never cared much to figure it out so my apologies now but ill make it understandable as i can
Hi Rusty, The order of the basic tricks is not important. Practice the one you are interested in or practice all of them in the same time period. Every gain you make will increase your general understanding and will make the other tricks more attainable. The Butterfly can be learned with any length of rope that is atleast 10 feet long. A 15 foot rope is good to practice flat loop tricks, like leg work and flat arounds. A 20 foot rope is good to learn the Wedding Ring. These are the tricks you should work on all at once. When you feel inspired you can learn the reverse butterfly and the Arrowhead. Then a 24 foot rope with a heavy honda can be used to learn the Texas Skip.
Hi Dan, nice instruction. I'm having a problem of the loop closing up on me. I've tried different weights and speeds ... but... I closed up the honda with some dental floss to prevent the loop from closing up. It's better but still not going as well as I'd like it. I'll go back and watch the video several more times to ensure I've soaked in all the nuggets you put into your explanations. Woody
Hi Woody, do you think that the loop is going flat because the circle you are making with your wrist is not exaggerated enough? Or maybe your downward motion that you make when taking the loop across is too aggressive? I would suggest that you imagine yourself being very smooth as you go across. Make sure you guide the loop in a well defined circle and pop your wrist up out of the way as the loop comes across, rather than throwing it down in a "V". Once it gets to the other side, exaggerate the circle again. I feel that it is helpful to believe that the rope has a will and wants to follow our instruction. So the rope is always doing what our wrist tells it to. We just have to be sure our wrist is conveying the correct message. I believe that in a few days, your butterfly will start working and you won't even remember why it was difficult. Feel free to video it and email or text it to me. rhinestoneroper@gmail.com 208-320-3633 MERRY CHRISTMAS Dan
@@rhinestoneropers9204 Ah ha! exaggerated the circle by using more forearm movement. This is what I'm seeing in your video. I guess I've been trying to use the wrist only like a flat loop. The rope that I've had the honda tied off is giving me the movement because I'm able to make it happen. I did try another rope today that has the normal honda and WAS able to get a few more turns back and forth before the loop collapsed. I'll give it more exaggerated movements and see how it goes. I'll see if I can get a video done. Thanks Dan!!!
@@stevenforeman4779, Good job Steve. Just keep at it. Your brain will change to accommodate the trick and you won't even remember why it was difficult.
If you could teach us the ocean wave and how to go back and forth in-between the flat loop and butterfly and Vice versa. That would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
Thanks for the suggestion Driver. The Ocean Wave was my next filming project. Actually, tossing in a quick ocean wave is an excellent way to go from a butterfly to a flat loop. Happy New Year
HI Seth, The knot is called a honda. And it's not fancy at all. The end is folded over and wired to for a small loop that the rest of the rope can slide through. You use speed and centrifugal force to vary the size of the loop. This is explained in my video, The Art and Physics of Trick Roping.
HI Erika, the best thing is to video one of your better attempts and email it to me. Then I can watch and make suggestions. But, focus on making good circles and be smooth on your transition across your body.
Hi Kim, the Butterfly is one trick that you can do as easily with a stiff rope as with a limp one. that is why many calf ropers can do a Butterfly with their rope. The Butterfly is a self correcting trick and that makes it good for using a calf rope.
Hi Pard', The short rope is 12' and the longer rope is about 21'. They are both spot cord rope that you can get at Western Stage Props in Las Vegas. I buy long lengths and cut it and put my own end knots and hondas on.
Dan Mink, thank you very much for this and all of your instructional videos. I used to practice trick roping back in the 1990s and I was ok at it, but then LIFE got in the way of me doing it. Now, I still have some combat injuries that will challenge me getting back to trick roping, but my wife and I have a horse farm in the middle of nowhere and now is the time, here is the place to begin again, and your videos are a key part of my plans.
In Cherokee, thank you is wado for your excellent roping skills, plus your laid back manner of teaching makes your videos the only ones I choose to learn from.
Wish me luck, and again, my sincere thanks!
This man deserve a damn award for these instructional videos because when i got my first trick rope in 2015 there only 2 instructional videos i could find 1 was for was for a flat loop the other a vertical loop nd i had them figured pretty quick so i spent a lil over a year tryin to teach myself other tricks from watchin a this 10 mins long video of a Mexican feller ropin thru the whole video doin alot of different tricks but never sayin a word nd i would watch it over nd over tryin to learn the butterfly as my next trick but my rope got destroyed nd i didnt get another for years later and I got on here to look up videos soon as I got the ropes that I got now and within 2 days of watching this video ive gotten the butterfly close to perfected so I would like to tell you thank you so much for the information that you're providing thru these videos it makes a world of difference so again i say Thank You
HI Rusty, Congratulations on your Butterfly. You set a goal and achieved it. In two days no less! That's exciting. Watching these tricks with no explanation doesn't really work does it? Especially when you are an American Style roper watching a Charro. The Mexican rope and Honda are totally different than the spot cord and our honda. The Mexican burner on their honda grips the rope in a "V" shape not in an islet shape like ours. It allows them to perform the same trick at different speeds without the honda slipping. We are more limited given the fact that our honda slides so easily.
Are you thinking about the Arrowhead next?
And, you are very welcome.
@@rhinestoneropers9204 yea its made a world of difference i had come a good distance on the butterfly before losin that rope but nothin was makin sense lol for good reason i now understand but i had nobody to ask i was introduced to rodeo nd the like from settin up arenas for Kings Bros Rodeo but the only 1 that knew anything of trick ropin was this real old man name Roy Lee King the oldest of the two King Bros that couldnt really do much speaking one day 3 or 4 was doin best of 5 headin a dummy well Roy Lee had picked up a this old sniff 4 strand nd starts doin a butterfly nd thats what made me wanna do it before that i knew nothin of such a thing but see Roy Lee couldnt hear hardly at all nd i asked enough questions about it to agrovate him of me so i never had anybody to tell anything about trick ropin other than what i could teach myself lol i was hopeless ive always badly desired the knowledge nd ability. So I bought that first rope nd you know the rest. You sharin this information will be the reason i learn how to do this i knew that the moment i watch this video so i just had to say thank you nd really cant say it enough so if you wouldnt mind me askin you before answerin. Which tricks would you suggest i work on next and in which order?
@@rhinestoneropers9204 You'll have to exscuse my punctuation and or spelling I've never been much good at it and never cared much to figure it out so my apologies now but ill make it understandable as i can
Hi Rusty, The order of the basic tricks is not important. Practice the one you are interested in or practice all of them in the same time period. Every gain you make will increase your general understanding and will make the other tricks more attainable. The Butterfly can be learned with any length of rope that is atleast 10 feet long. A 15 foot rope is good to practice flat loop tricks, like leg work and flat arounds. A 20 foot rope is good to learn the Wedding Ring. These are the tricks you should work on all at once. When you feel inspired you can learn the reverse butterfly and the Arrowhead. Then a 24 foot rope with a heavy honda can be used to learn the Texas Skip.
@@rhinestoneropers9204 Thank you Dan my name is Harrison Smith
Nice job, Dan. It took me a long time to get the butterfly going, and I had some good coaching. It's well worth the effort!
Thanks Doug. It took me a while too. Luckily, it's not physically taxing.
I've been trying to do this for about twenty years. This is the best instruction I've ever seen on doing it. Will have to get the ropes out again.
Thanks Warren and good luck.
Thank you this helped me so much
Glad it helped!
These lessons are golden
Thank You.
Hi Dan, nice instruction. I'm having a problem of the loop closing up on me. I've tried different weights and speeds ... but... I closed up the honda with some dental floss to prevent the loop from closing up. It's better but still not going as well as I'd like it. I'll go back and watch the video several more times to ensure I've soaked in all the nuggets you put into your explanations.
Woody
Hi Woody, do you think that the loop is going flat because the circle you are making with your wrist is not exaggerated enough? Or maybe your downward motion that you make when taking the loop across is too aggressive? I would suggest that you imagine yourself being very smooth as you go across. Make sure you guide the loop in a well defined circle and pop your wrist up out of the way as the loop comes across, rather than throwing it down in a "V". Once it gets to the other side, exaggerate the circle again.
I feel that it is helpful to believe that the rope has a will and wants to follow our instruction. So the rope is always doing what our wrist tells it to. We just have to be sure our wrist is conveying the correct message.
I believe that in a few days, your butterfly will start working and you won't even remember why it was difficult.
Feel free to video it and email or text it to me.
rhinestoneroper@gmail.com
208-320-3633
MERRY CHRISTMAS
Dan
@@rhinestoneropers9204 Ah ha! exaggerated the circle by using more forearm movement. This is what I'm seeing in your video. I guess I've been trying to use the wrist only like a flat loop. The rope that I've had the honda tied off is giving me the movement because I'm able to make it happen. I did try another rope today that has the normal honda and WAS able to get a few more turns back and forth before the loop collapsed. I'll give it more exaggerated movements and see how it goes. I'll see if I can get a video done. Thanks Dan!!!
@@rhinestoneropers9204 The butterfly is getting better. Not ready to get in front of a group, but the confidence is building.
@@stevenforeman4779, Good job Steve. Just keep at it. Your brain will change to accommodate the trick and you won't even remember why it was difficult.
@@swf91856 Good Job. Your body will understand more each day.
Can someone tell me what kind of rope to use to learn tricks with?
What age are you
The best trick rope is the 3/8 inch Cotton Spot Cord from Western Stage Props in Las Vegas NV
It would be interesting to see some trick roping in space.
Yes taking gravity out would be interesting. When you try it, let me know how it went.
Hey could you let me know the best ropes to use. Im looking for one for Christmas? Thanks!
HI KT, What are you going to do with the rope?
@@rhinestoneropers9204 trick roping!
@@rhinestoneropers9204 can u use a normal lariat
If you could teach us the ocean wave and how to go back and forth in-between the flat loop and butterfly and Vice versa. That would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
Thanks for the suggestion Driver. The Ocean Wave was my next filming project. Actually, tossing in a quick ocean wave is an excellent way to go from a butterfly to a flat loop.
Happy New Year
Ty!
How can it slide to become bigger&smaller? A fancy knot?
HI Seth,
The knot is called a honda. And it's not fancy at all. The end is folded over and wired to for a small loop that the rest of the rope can slide through. You use speed and centrifugal force to vary the size of the loop. This is explained in my video, The Art and Physics of Trick Roping.
So I got the trick down but how do I keep it from closing up I can make the loop just no longer then 10 seconds
HI Erika, the best thing is to video one of your better attempts and email it to me. Then I can watch and make suggestions. But, focus on making good circles and be smooth on your transition across your body.
Thank you!
You're welcome!
is there a type of rope that you use.
I prefer the 3/8 inch Cotton Spot Cord. You can get it at Western Stage Props in Las Vegas NV.
@@rhinestoneropers9204can you use a roping rope?
what type of rope are you using?
It's a cotton spot cord that has been painted. The rope can be purchased from Western Stage Props.
Aus welchen Material ist das seil
Das Seil ist gewebt, nicht gedreht und hesteht aus Baumwaolle. Es heiBt Cotton Red Spot Cord. Es hateinen Durchmesser von 3/8 zoll.
How flexible does your rope need to be? I mean can you do this as easily with a stiff Cowboy nylon rope as it is with a more limp rope??
Limp rope
Hi Kim, the Butterfly is one trick that you can do as easily with a stiff rope as with a limp one. that is why many calf ropers can do a Butterfly with their rope. The Butterfly is a self correcting trick and that makes it good for using a calf rope.
Hey man where did you get the rope and how long
Hi Pard', The short rope is 12' and the longer rope is about 21'. They are both spot cord rope that you can get at Western Stage Props in Las Vegas. I buy long lengths and cut it and put my own end knots and hondas on.
Thank you for answering this question. I was gonna ask the same question.
@@rhinestoneropers9204 do you have a video about end knots and hondas?
I pray the best for y’all. Jesus Christ saves
Thank you.
Cool
Thanks
wow
They should have had a professor named McCracken in the movies. Did they?
@@rhinestoneropers9204 I don't know. My girlfriend game me the name nickname.
I know this guy isn’t driving a lifted truck….
I don't know how you knew that but you are right.