Jack the Ripper and the Curse of the Beigel

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  • @tberkoff
    @tberkoff 6 месяцев назад +21

    I live in the USA. My grandmother (1925-2013) grew up on St. Leonard's Road in Poplar, she attended the George Green's school on East India Dock Road, met a US soldier at a dance in London in 1943 and married him and moved to the USA after the war. Her house was bombed during WW2 and the Poplar neighborhood has changed significantly since the war. I found the site of her house on St. Leonard's Road during a visit some years ago. When she grew up in Poplar, it was mostly Jewish immigrants from Eastern Europe. Her father was a barber and they lived above the shop.

    • @Dude0000
      @Dude0000 6 месяцев назад +5

      This has just made me wonder, if the mid century Germans bombed Jewish areas, as a matter of priority? Wouldn’t rule it out knowing what I know about those dapper psychos, including speeches by Mean Mr Mustache Man and Goebels. These, in particular, are particularly interesting and irrefutable evidence for the deniers, out there.

    • @Frenchblue8
      @Frenchblue8 5 месяцев назад +1

      That is so interesting! Thank you for sharing. You're lucky you know so much about your grandmother and probably from her.
      I really had to press my grandmother (unbelievably, we came on the Mayflower~definitely on one side and rumored (believed to be) on the other!) about her family's history, and I learned much not about her personal history, although I know the basics~but HER mother's life during a particular period when my grandmother was really little. My great-grandmother, Annie, who not only owned a farm, had four children - with one drowning at the age of two, around 1906, aged 2, in the horse trough, right outside the kitchen door where her older siblings~my grandmother and great-uncle had been told to watch her if they were playing in the yard)
      Every October, in the years just before and after the turn of the century, my great-grandmother, then in her mid-thirties, traveled with her sickly husband, James, their two ~and then three~ small children, from Southwestern Connecticut, South to the state of Florida, first by coach, then by train, th n by whipv; wagon again.. to escort her husband to Florida where he spent the winters in warm weather due to tuberculosis (exacerbated by alcoholism), and then she and the children took the same extremely arduous, nearly 1,000 mile journey North again, where she not only ran their working root vegetable, apple and flowers farm, but, as a 'single' mom during those months(he traveled home by himself every May), drove her children, first in a horse-drawn wagon, then in an automobile, the 8 miles to the center of town where she owned the local flower shop.
      I know that's not an immigration story and it's got nothing to do with London, or the ripper, for that matter, but your story made me want to share about my own great-grandmother. But of course, it was my grandmother's story as well. The amazing thing is I have the letters the husband and wife wrote to each other during those winter months apart where she filled pages and pages with news about their children and the funny, clever things they did and said because their 'Dear Papa' missed them all so terribly.
      Again thank you for sharing and inspiring me to share. 💙

    • @Dude0000
      @Dude0000 5 месяцев назад

      @Dude0000 is in desperate need of an editor.

    • @Frenchblue8
      @Frenchblue8 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@Dude0000lol, you're fine👍

    • @Dude0000
      @Dude0000 5 месяцев назад

      @@Frenchblue8 thanks. You drew attention to a comment I made 2 weeks ago. I just read it, and had to have a little giggle to myself whilst calling myself out, lol plus, it reminds me of how little I have been reading, lately. I have so many books sitting, waiting for me, but the next is Crime and Punishment’, so I’m as anxious as to the length as I am excited to its quality, having already being introduced to Dostoevsky through ‘Notes From the Underground’, which blew me away.
      Your curiosity, on display in your reply at least, is quite infectious. I wish more people were as open and empathetic as you seem to be.
      Edit. It was bittersweet reading about your ancestors. Sweet in that you have knowledge of this, bitter in that it puts me to shame that I haven’t acted upon my inclination to find out more about my family’s story. Remember, whether they were completely aware of this or not, they, especially your Grandmother, did it for you (and your brothers, sisters, cousins, and all your and there children, and all there children’s children.. Ad infinitum). And that makes what she did all the more special.

  • @nicktatters7523
    @nicktatters7523 6 месяцев назад +15

    I’ve been in that Baigel bakery, absolutely amazing. Brilliant video as ever Edward keep up this informative content 👍

  • @Paddy984
    @Paddy984 6 месяцев назад +9

    Whenever I watch Ed's videos, I learn something new. Hats off!

  • @alexjames7670
    @alexjames7670 6 месяцев назад +5

    Thanks for another good episode Ed, as this one in particular strikes a more personal chord for me. For years I've tried to tell armchair Ripperologists that suspects like Kosminski or Cohen don't work because of the lack of lucidity in the midst of their mania. Even sadder is having seen endless "case closed" documentaries that keep pushing the lunatic fringe as the best candidates for a killer that obviously had their full wits about them to have committed the acts that they did. It's like these folks can only see killers like the Ripper through the lens of an insane nutter because Hollywood loves to push this troupe time and time again.

  • @Balloon_Juice
    @Balloon_Juice 6 месяцев назад +8

    Another corker of a video. Love the way you blended a modern case with JtR to illustrate the point that the "lunatic" theory doesn't really cut the mustard. Even more chilling when you think that the ripper was "sane". Pure psychopath. Really like the element of social history woven in too. Great work. No pressure Edward but when's the next upload ( I can't wait ) ?! 😁😉

    • @thehouseoflechmere9407
      @thehouseoflechmere9407  6 месяцев назад

      Soon!

    • @Balloon_Juice
      @Balloon_Juice 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@thehouseoflechmere9407 😁👍🏻 nice one ! You are one of the very few channels that I genuinely look forward to a posting. Always interesting and very well presented. Thank you Edward.

  • @warcrypublishing
    @warcrypublishing 6 месяцев назад +7

    This is a fantastic video. I never knew any of this. Great research from Mr Stow

    • @thehouseoflechmere9407
      @thehouseoflechmere9407  6 месяцев назад +1

      Glad you enjoyed it!

    • @Dude0000
      @Dude0000 6 месяцев назад

      @@thehouseoflechmere9407 hey Ed. Happy Easter, sir. As you’re probably aware, Jack the Ripper Tour uploads every Sunday and today, did an obscure suspect, Hutchinson.
      In the comments, people put their most likely and most left out Lechmere. Would you check my response so I’m not spreading apocryphal information on this, thanks…
      Lechmere aka Cross, was the only person at a body, was known to have lived in the area, both growing up, and later as a father and husband, with his mother still in the area.
      From a distinguished family in Warwickshire, he, mainly due to due to primogeniture, profligacy and seemingly bad blood with a well financially placed Auntie, had to work as a Cartman, delivering meat, while his relatives, still had the various manor houses and cottages, the primary one in Warwickshire, another in Shropshire, confirmed through documentation.
      Found alone with a body.
      Used to cutting meat and using knives, and normal to have blood on his overalls.
      Known to be in a situation that can lead to psychological issues, which, if left unchecked, can become pathological.
      Geographic profile shows a statistically high correlation.
      In conclusion, nothing to see here, let’s look at the local nutters who stood out like sore thumbs, who were all looked into at the time and dismissed.
      Not perfect, but I’m a only a recent watcher of your channel, and had to do this from memory due to chronological issues (clocks went forward… yes, I’m actually blaming that for not being more detailed and accurate, cos it’s after midnight and I’m knackered. Fortunately, it’s only for casuals and/or newbies who still think it’s Kosinski or that American hermaphrodite fella.

  • @muckasunshine
    @muckasunshine 6 месяцев назад +8

    Really enjoyed this video..As an aside..my maternal grandparents both worked at Colney Hatch Lunatic Asylum. I have pictures of them with their bunches of keys hanging on chains on their uniforms. They are also mentioned on the 1901 census , being both listed as Servants there, My Grandmother was 20 and my Grandfather was 22 (they were not yet married). Not sure if this would indicate that they lived in, or were just there on the night the census was taken.

    • @nicktatters7523
      @nicktatters7523 6 месяцев назад +2

      Brilliant story, thanks for sharing 👍

  • @sarahedwards433
    @sarahedwards433 17 дней назад +1

    Very good point I did wonder where the bagel story was going 🤔 Jack the Ripper was definitely a psychopath not a sociopath although the two terms are often mistakenly thought to describe the same condition

  • @TK-ux5du
    @TK-ux5du 6 месяцев назад +3

    Amazing to think that after all we know today about serial killers, so many people still seem to think of them as being overtly/noticeably mentally ill.
    It's really chilling to think about Lechmere putting his victims at ease. I wonder if he could have been a 'regular' and maybe known to some of them already. I know Edward touched on that theory/possibility in an earlier video about the Mary Kelly murder and how Lechmere's kids went to the same school as Kelly's alleged pimp. 😱

  • @graveoffense572
    @graveoffense572 4 месяца назад +1

    The salt beef and gherkin biegel were delicious. The yellow shop.

  • @henrymann8122
    @henrymann8122 6 месяцев назад +6

    Excellent upload, Edward.

  • @davem8836
    @davem8836 6 месяцев назад +4

    If we didn't use soft words in this day and age and still referred to people as "lunatics" or "imbeciles" who were put in the "asylum", we may have fewer of these people out on the streets today.

  • @yass5082
    @yass5082 4 месяца назад +1

    He is the reincarnated soul of Kozminski.

  • @jimthefinger7391
    @jimthefinger7391 6 месяцев назад +6

    Sailors from the Mary Rose use to eat here when they were bored with lobscouse and ships biscuits. Fact!!

  • @princerupert6161
    @princerupert6161 6 месяцев назад +1

    It's pronounced.. Lee'ah. 👍

  • @Quiet1-y9x
    @Quiet1-y9x 3 месяца назад +1

    Lucid, convincing discussion. Again.

  • @hopeenquiries3638
    @hopeenquiries3638 6 месяцев назад +5

    I have enjoyed many a bagel in the early hours there. very sad story

  • @philnewcomers9170
    @philnewcomers9170 6 месяцев назад +3

    that was very good, kosminsky stuf has always been nonsence . How on earth do you know so much about the syco aspect on this subject. ttfn&ty

  • @johngarcia1340
    @johngarcia1340 6 месяцев назад +2

    Excellent Video about Kosminsky not being able to carry out the murders!!! Best 20 minutes I've spent all week!!

  • @candyfluff5118
    @candyfluff5118 6 месяцев назад +4

    Fantastic, as always! Love your work!

  • @davidhynes9683
    @davidhynes9683 6 месяцев назад +1

    Why not cover the curse on Mitre Square and why John Barnet can't be Jack the Ripper?

  • @Mr.56Goldtop
    @Mr.56Goldtop 6 месяцев назад +2

    Another masterpiece! 👍🏻👍🏻🔪 Bygal sounds like a cockney accent pronunciation, Let's go and have a bygal mate! 😁

  • @julesdelorme5192
    @julesdelorme5192 6 месяцев назад +2

    Was wondering why you posted that first video about the Bagel (That's how we spell it in Canada. And if you haven't had a Montreal Bagel. You haven't had a bagel...) shop. Now I'm a lot more clear. As always, well done. Learn something new with every video.

  • @oldskoolpaul77
    @oldskoolpaul77 6 месяцев назад +3

    Hi Edward. Another fantastic film! I really enjoyed it! The white front beigel shop is my favourite too! I'm sure the Pret sandwich shop behind you used to be a nice pub? Oh well another east end boozer gone 👎

  • @brucemcintosh8260
    @brucemcintosh8260 6 месяцев назад +2

    Interesting post. Thank You. Two of my greatest lifelong obssessions. Beigels & Saucy Jacky! I think You are mostly correct. I wrote off Kosminski years ago. Someone like that could not have pulled-off such audacious murders in Whitechapel at that time, especially something as audacious as The Double-Event? Interesting how ready we are to accept that someone who commits outrageous acts such as these can only be; "Alien", "Foreign", "Jewish", , Stark Staring Bonkers or "Low-Class LowLife". NOT just a "Someone" like You or i? That we cannot deal with. So HOW was he able to move with total impunity among the EastEnd masses with such ease & commit murder & dismemberment so deftly? He knew the area well. He lived, but wasn't born there. He worked there, was familiar with the area, knew The Ladies, The Pimps, The Bludgeoners, The Pubs, The Grasses & The Ponces. He knew them All. & Why? He was A Bobby! Now, am i right, or am i RIGHT?!

    • @davekeating.
      @davekeating. 6 месяцев назад +1

      What was the motive? The street ladies would know all the local Bobbies by sight. If he tried to chat any of them up he would be “copped” right away.

  • @warcrypublishing
    @warcrypublishing 6 месяцев назад +5

    🎩🔪

  • @jakehammond12345
    @jakehammond12345 6 месяцев назад +1

    Point of interest... Up in Finsbury Park there is a Beigel shop who spell it Biegel, which is apparently the older spelling, or more authentic....

  • @CHRISDJS72
    @CHRISDJS72 6 месяцев назад +6

    I enjoyed this video, yorkshire ripper claimed to be schizophrenic but i think he just said it to get out of prison and into a mental hospital, he knew what to say to psychiatrists because his wife was a schizophrenic, most of the time serial killers have a very bizarre sexual preference disorder that gives them a sexual urge to murder, I still think Kosminski could have been Jack the ripper, maybe doing the murders is what caused his head piece to go

    • @kevinkenny6975
      @kevinkenny6975 6 месяцев назад +4

      No. Definitely not Kosminsky

    • @CHRISDJS72
      @CHRISDJS72 6 месяцев назад

      @kevinkenny6975 to be fair i dont think we can write of any of the suspects or even it being someone we haven't heard of, i just think kosminski fits, its the fact that the police stopped looking for the ripper around the time he was committed, a police officer also mentioned it being him in a book he wrote

    • @crose7412
      @crose7412 6 месяцев назад +1

      @CHRISDJS72 Peter Sutcliffe was an inpatient at a psychiatric hospital from 1984 until he died whereas his wife still lives in the community. It's unclear why you think he could outsmart the entirety of Britain's psychiatrists too. Sutcliffe was stabbed and slashed so Broadmoor was not a bed of roses compared to prison.

    • @CHRISDJS72
      @CHRISDJS72 6 месяцев назад +2

      @crose7412 he was transferd back to prison in 2016, he planned what he was doing and knew exactly what he was doing, he wasnt acting in a state of psychosis or a blind rage, his use of violence was exessive, he mutalated them after death, if voices was telling him to kill he wouldnt need to have a sexual intrest in the corpses, he even had sex with one of them after he killed her, he was warning a homemade pair of leggins under his trousers so he could knell doun and masterbate over the bodies, he didnt tell the police about the voices in the interviews, he only started mentioning voices in his defence at his trial, and if you think broadmoor is just as bad as being in prison you must not know that they get as many visitors as they want they get to send as many letters that they want and get to make their own food, thats just to name a few things

    • @paulbenedict6751
      @paulbenedict6751 6 месяцев назад

      He's the ripper. Angim. Cut her from ear to ear he did . They looked a proper courtin. Couple. Not safe to go out the these days

  • @malmyster
    @malmyster 6 месяцев назад +2

    The writing on the wall suggests the ripper may not have been jewish. Also that night the ripper was alert enough to point to someone else with the words lipsiki. I agree the person who committed this had to be well presented otherwise alerting the victims. Perhaps was not drunk as the ripper appeared alert and precise. And in control enough, to calmly evade police. To also take time to clean up. Suggests a methodical, calculating person ( I use this word loosely). Certainly not a maniac. I realized after writing this there is so much more evidence on the killer being calculating ... from the technique to kill, the quietness of the location, The ability to escape, just to broadly cover the few. This would especially be reinforced if the killer also took to the stand at an enquiry.

  • @eddiel7635
    @eddiel7635 4 дня назад

    My ex’s Jewish dad pronounced it Beigel and as it happens her great great grandad ran a pub on hanbury street in 1888. She had loads of relatives living in the area, most of the women were listed as glove makers.

  • @krugmeister7301
    @krugmeister7301 13 дней назад

    Littlechild also knew about Aaron Kosminski...

  • @stedky
    @stedky Месяц назад

    Used to live on Old Nichol St round the corner from the shops. Always went to the White shop. Had a small heart attack at the beginning of the video when you said one had closed, then a sigh of relief when I realised it wasn’t ‘my’ shop. Live in Scotland now but always go back for a salt beef bagel whenever I visit London.

  • @luke125
    @luke125 6 месяцев назад +12

    It’s too bad that we don’t know more about Lechmere.

    • @jeffjeffreym1830
      @jeffjeffreym1830 6 месяцев назад +2

      I take that is meant as a joke. The Lechmere fanatics have trawled through every second of this innocent man's history, from birth to death...and unearthed absolutely nothing sinister. The poor chap discovered a body while following his regular route to work. That's it. End of. Done.

    • @thehouseoflechmere9407
      @thehouseoflechmere9407  6 месяцев назад +9

      Keep watching jeffjeffreym. You have so much more to learn.

    • @jeffjeffreym1830
      @jeffjeffreym1830 6 месяцев назад

      Keep bringing these out for our entertainment. Thanks.@@thehouseoflechmere9407

    • @hughzapretti-boyden9187
      @hughzapretti-boyden9187 6 месяцев назад

      @@thehouseoflechmere9407 your plagiarism of that Belgian guy's work is plain to see. Nothing you post (apart from clickbait fairy tale stuff) isn't new.
      Just saying...

    • @thehouseoflechmere9407
      @thehouseoflechmere9407  6 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@hughzapretti-boyden9187
      I'm guessing this post was intended to be against a totally different film on a different channel. Belgian?

  • @richardsnow7299
    @richardsnow7299 6 месяцев назад +3

    Excellent video Edward thanks

  • @seandilallo8718
    @seandilallo8718 2 месяца назад

    There is a difference in the characterization of "sexual maniac" and "madman." Macnaghten, in his memoirs, describes sexual mania as meaning sexual sadism of the type attributed to historical figures like Nero. In other words, sexual mania means the obsessions of a lust killer.

  • @krugmeister7301
    @krugmeister7301 13 дней назад

    Kosminski is to me the Ripper...Funny that the police weren't able to catch him.

  • @lewiswalker7803
    @lewiswalker7803 6 месяцев назад +3

    Always look forward to these videos!! 👌🏽

  • @triggerskull
    @triggerskull 6 месяцев назад +2

    This where Jack ate when he wasn’t having jelly eels..

  • @rolandovillareal4385
    @rolandovillareal4385 6 месяцев назад +1

    I think this episode clearly eliminates Kozminsky as a suspect. Bravo !

  • @rogerscottcathey
    @rogerscottcathey 6 месяцев назад +1

    I don't know if you addressed the "Ripper Diary" controversy. I am certain though you have a position and reasons. Would you point me to it please.

  • @MsDormy
    @MsDormy 2 месяца назад

    What a very sad account about Joshua Cohen. It is tragic on so many levels. 🙏

  • @bendavies8881
    @bendavies8881 6 месяцев назад +3

    I think that this could definitely be argued two ways. While Jack the Ripper was stealthy, he clearly wasn't in any way cautious. I might might be reading him incorrectly, but I think that he was impulsive, and probably disorganized.

    • @davekeating.
      @davekeating. 6 месяцев назад +3

      Impulsive? Can chat up women and convince them he’s not dreaded Jack. Successfully avoids regular police beats. Leaves bugger all evidence and silently disappears into thin air. Calculated risk taker, part of the thrill.

    • @bendavies8881
      @bendavies8881 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@davekeating. Yes impulsive. Remember he gets interrupted while committing one murder, and instead of heading home to lie low, he goes an commits' another murder within the hour. Clearly not a man capable of delayed gratification. Not a planner.

    • @davekeating.
      @davekeating. 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@bendavies8881 Impulsive suggests the Ripper spots a victim and immediately attacks her. Yet, he carefully avoided any coppers on Bucks Row, Berner Street and Mitre Square. Of the other two victims, one he kills in a back garden, the other in her own home, thus avoiding any police patrols. On the night of the double event, his plan was to slaughter his victim. When that didn’t happen with Liz Stride, he calmly makes his way to Mitre Square to complete his original plan. As I said before, the Ripper knew where to find his victims, knew how to chat them up, knew where to take them, and knew how to cut them up. All unnoticed, leaving the minimum of evidence. These killings were not lucky accidents. They were planned.

    • @bendavies8881
      @bendavies8881 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@davekeating. My take on things is a little different. I don't think that he made the decision to attack his victims impulsively, but I think that he went out looking for a victim impulsively, and probably made it up as he went along. The locations of the murders were all places where he was highly likely to be seen, and indeed he was very unsuccessful at a voiding detection. He was interrupted in two out of the five canonical murders, which is a 40% detection rate. I don't think he needs to have been endowed with anything more remarkable than a low animal cunning. As for his ability to gain the trust of his victims, I think that this suggests that he had used their services before without incident, and was trusted for that reason.

  • @fifteen8
    @fifteen8 6 месяцев назад +1

    I agree. JtR was an “organized,” cunning killer who was restrained immediately before and after each killing act when he “let loose.” off - ON! - off. I believe it’s very unlikely that an overtly disturbed person such as Kozminski could have functioned in this way.
    I live in NYC and have never heard the bye-gull pronunciation. That doesn’t mean it’s invalid or incorrect. Actually, I liked learning the history about it.

  • @Mrrobackenson1
    @Mrrobackenson1 6 месяцев назад +1

    Yea I disagree. It's Beigel, pronounced Bygel. East End Jews say it that way.
    Bagel is how the Yanks say it. And what do they know.😅

  • @ErnaldtheSaxon
    @ErnaldtheSaxon 6 месяцев назад +1

    History does not repeat itself but, it certainly rhymes.

  • @1734-Jason
    @1734-Jason 6 месяцев назад +3

    Another awesome video mate

  • @dermotkelly6946
    @dermotkelly6946 6 месяцев назад +2

    Excellent Edward, will watch tonight 👍

  • @tonysmith3556
    @tonysmith3556 6 месяцев назад +1

    Great stuff. No madman could have been so clever and crazy and methodical. None.

  • @Liz-sn1mm
    @Liz-sn1mm 5 месяцев назад

    Who is the sinister-looking bloke in the 2nd to last photo?

  • @darrenmaguire2979
    @darrenmaguire2979 6 месяцев назад +1

    Good video Edward I didn't know about the different spellings of bagels 👍🎉

  • @glddraco666
    @glddraco666 5 месяцев назад

    Ted Bundy was extremely good at disguising himself

    • @thehouseoflechmere9407
      @thehouseoflechmere9407  5 месяцев назад +1

      He tended to do things like put on a fake arm plaster to make it look like he'd broken his arm and so was non threatening

  • @MsPaulathomas
    @MsPaulathomas 6 месяцев назад +1

    The German came from the Old English 'Begus' meaning ring. That word features in Beowulf

  • @Jack-hy1zq
    @Jack-hy1zq 6 месяцев назад +4

    Is the last black+white photo Lechmere as a young man, or is it an 'imagined' photo of him as a young man?

    • @yorkyfozzy2867
      @yorkyfozzy2867 6 месяцев назад +1

      I wondered about that too.

    • @thehouseoflechmere9407
      @thehouseoflechmere9407  6 месяцев назад

      It is an AI recreation - check the description under the film for details.

    • @Carolinel673
      @Carolinel673 6 месяцев назад

      Did lechmere have blood on Him ?

    • @thehouseoflechmere9407
      @thehouseoflechmere9407  6 месяцев назад

      ​@@Carolinel673
      When

    • @Carolinel673
      @Carolinel673 6 месяцев назад

      @@thehouseoflechmere9407 when the cop & other man spike to lechmere . I was wondering about that ,

  • @krugmeister7301
    @krugmeister7301 13 дней назад

    I prefer Pret a Manger

  • @Vort317545
    @Vort317545 6 месяцев назад +1

    Bygone Beigel :)

  • @michaelw8587
    @michaelw8587 6 месяцев назад +1

    Very interesting. I'm in London tomorrow so will try one of the beigels when i'm down there.

  • @Louiseskybunker
    @Louiseskybunker 6 месяцев назад +1

    The creepy Charles Booth and creepy William Booth -would have eaten there

  • @louistracy6964
    @louistracy6964 6 месяцев назад +1

    'Bangle' is closer to beygl than 'bow'.

    • @thehouseoflechmere9407
      @thehouseoflechmere9407  6 месяцев назад +1

      Bangle comes from Hindi, from the word for glass, not from a German origin.

    • @louistracy6964
      @louistracy6964 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@thehouseoflechmere9407 Thanx!

  • @bretryder8401
    @bretryder8401 6 месяцев назад +3

    Excellent stuff as always. Thanks.

    • @thehouseoflechmere9407
      @thehouseoflechmere9407  6 месяцев назад

      Glad you enjoyed it

    • @Dude0000
      @Dude0000 6 месяцев назад

      @@thehouseoflechmere9407 are you Jewish, or just well integrated into the East end community, Ed? Has there been any problems from the Gaza advocates around your Manor?
      I’m on the road to Damascus, towards Christianity, at the moment, so my sympathies are with Israel, as they’re half right 😉. But more importantly, the killing, r@pe and torture of women and children are not a ‘legitimate military target’, as I’ve heard with the Hammas (ironic name for islamists) advocates seam to repeat in cult like fashion.
      I’m also concerned Israel has gone too far, but as I don’t understand the situation well enough, I’ll reserve judgement.

    • @thehouseoflechmere9407
      @thehouseoflechmere9407  6 месяцев назад

      ​@@Dude0000
      Just well integrated!

  • @malmyster
    @malmyster 6 месяцев назад +1

    also .... According to Long, the man had asked Chapman the question, "Will you?" to which Chapman replied, "Yes." If this was the ripper speaking, and yes it is only two words, but there was no mentioning of accent I believe. Suggests the ripper is not polish. All of this (comments I have said previously) for me makes Kominiski the least likely Ripper suspect ever. How could the police have got this so wrong?

    • @thehouseoflechmere9407
      @thehouseoflechmere9407  6 месяцев назад

      They were useless

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 6 месяцев назад +1

      While Kosminski is unlikely to have been JTR I don't buy Long's story. Or at least I don't think it was Chapman. I believe Phillips' conclusion, in that Chapman was killed at the earlier time, likely before 4.00 am.

    • @thehouseoflechmere9407
      @thehouseoflechmere9407  6 месяцев назад

      ​@@lyndoncmp5751
      I don't think long saw anything relevant to the murder.

    • @malmyster
      @malmyster 6 месяцев назад +1

      It may surprise but I do agree. Basically it’s unfortunate that the actual police case files are lost as I understand and we have to rely upon reported testimony. So we don’t truely get a precise idea as to what was in police thoughts and why some evidence was better than others. That said, we also have advantages they did not have in that fortunately/unfortunately we know a lot more about serial killers that may make us look at the evidence from a different angle. And in reality’s without better information we can probably only judge upon this less than ideal situation. Which does lead to a wide range of opinions. … that for me is part of the fascination of these murders. And I do hope all this speculation inspires other to find the truth- if it does exist.

    • @thehouseoflechmere9407
      @thehouseoflechmere9407  6 месяцев назад

      ​@malmyster
      There are some police reports including one doubting Long.

  • @davesmith7432
    @davesmith7432 6 месяцев назад +3

    Additionally to Aaron not fitting the psychological profile, he wasn’t from Whitechapel. And he was too young to be to the Thames torso killer.

    • @triggerskull
      @triggerskull 6 месяцев назад +1

      Thought he lived on Sion Square; right in the middle of it all. Agree though, doesn’t quite fit anyway.

    • @davesmith7432
      @davesmith7432 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@triggerskull right, he did live there. But migrated. Now , that doesn’t mean he couldn’t have done. But it’s more unlikely he was the killer. Ed made a video describing a woman murdered in West London in 1872. Her throat was savagely cut to the vertebrae. And then a year later the torso murders start. And similar murders continue after Aaron is committed. If you think Ed is correct, in his contention that the WhiteChapel killer & the Thames torso killer were the same man then He couldn’t have done it.

    • @jeffjeffreym1830
      @jeffjeffreym1830 6 месяцев назад

      He's almost certainly the killer having been identified by Donald Swanson. Remember Swanson was the detective in charge of the case and was writing privately.

    • @jasoreed
      @jasoreed 6 месяцев назад +2

      And he also had no money to pay upfront to the prostitutes as he lived with relatives that kept him. Not having an income , living off the streets and eating out of the gutter.

    • @davesmith7432
      @davesmith7432 6 месяцев назад +1

      that’s a great point!

  • @9kat53
    @9kat53 6 месяцев назад +1

    As always, wonderfully researched and most interesting!! A policeman of that period made a notation that the man they (or at least he, that particular policeman) considered to be JTR had been confined in an insane asylum, yes? So, its not a matter of thinking that any JTR suspect had to be certifiably insane, its more that the police at the time who were actually investigating these murders felt that "their guy" had been sent to an insane asylum. A great deal of importance should be attached to this, it seems? Again, I am not an actual Ripperologist. However, I have not (yet) found a reason to ignore what the police at the time were thinking. If its anything like now, the police were aware of far more than they ever let on about when talking to the press or public. My understanding, which could be wrong or cld be based on credibly/reliably debunked info, is that, at least for a period of time, the police back then were looking for a butcher who worked on butcher's row, and who ended up in an insane asylum, after which the JTR murders stopped. I do disagree with Lechmere as the strongest suspect, we need more info other than just geography connecting him to even one other murder (plus a forensic geographic investigator identified an area other than where Lechmere lived and worked as being the most likely area for JTR to have lived and worked), and there were just too many easy escape routes for JTR to have melted away into when he first heard Lechmere's workboots clomping along approaching, but I do love your channel very much!!

  • @KayNichols-p4f
    @KayNichols-p4f 6 месяцев назад +1

    Brilliant video Ed as usual nice piece of east end history mate

  • @venden5188
    @venden5188 6 месяцев назад +1

    Mr. Edward, I see that there are people who try to disqualify your notable work and research, those people are mediocre, here I put a writing about the mediocre according to a brilliant psychiatrist. “The vast majority of Mediocres do not know that they are mediocre, however, some unconscious suspicion makes them mean and envious people and, in the face of some outstanding attitude from their colleagues, they carry out negative actions such as defaming, destructively criticizing and putting emphasis on the inconsequential details and other vile things to attack the talented. The Mediocres, in these cases, have a sense of alliance that unites them to prevent the advancement of the outstanding ones. This alliance is not explicit, but tacit, it is as if each Mediocre felt threatened in their work or in their future by the presence of a talented person. Thus, these poor in spirit who will win the kingdom of heaven, are on earth a permanent pain for everyone who exceeds measure. Mediocres tend to surround themselves with Mediocres and displace and reject the outstanding ones. Captured in their bureau, they launch their curses and their envy. They generally look for ways to obstruct and hinder the development of the activity of the talented….”

    • @thehouseoflechmere9407
      @thehouseoflechmere9407  6 месяцев назад

      A good quotation!

    • @thehouseoflechmere9407
      @thehouseoflechmere9407  6 месяцев назад +1

      I just saw that a circle of nutters on one of the decling forums has taken great exception to your post on here.

    • @venden5188
      @venden5188 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@thehouseoflechmere9407 That just proves the veracity of the post. They are so predictable 😂

    • @thehouseoflechmere9407
      @thehouseoflechmere9407  6 месяцев назад +1

      @venden5188 there's a degree of insanity involved with some of them

    • @venden5188
      @venden5188 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@thehouseoflechmere9407 They probably do 🤔

  • @vjc2270
    @vjc2270 6 месяцев назад

    Fascinating video! I’ve always viewed the Kosminski theory, and the belief that the Ripper was Jewish, as being products of the prejudices of the time. (Although, sadly, such prejudices persist in some minds.) I agree 100% that Jack the Ripper, like most modern-day serial killers, was a psychopath. These people are highly organised and operate like a hunter - they may be opportunistic in their specific choice of victim, but they set out to kill, have a plan for perpetrating the kill, and a plan for escape. They have a high degree of control over their behaviour and, on a day-to-day basis, will appear to be ‘normal’, or even charming when it suits them (think Ted Bundy). A person with a psychotic disorder, conversely, will have a history of ‘odd’, uncontrolled behaviour, often with episodes of violence. When in the grip of psychosis, such a person will have no control over their actions and - to put it bluntly, will appear ‘mad’. Like the unfortunate Joshua Cohen, a person with a psychotic disorder may kill, but wont have thought out a cogent escape plan or a credible alibi because they are not operating rationally. (Just to be clear, not everyone with a psychotic disorder is violent or a killer!) Mental health issues were, and continue to be, terribly misunderstood by most people. Despite many advances in medical science since the late Victorian period, mental health services today remain underfunded and under-resourced, which is why tragedies such as the one you describe in this video continue to occur. I’ve always felt sorry for Aaron Kosminski (and his family) who I think unfairly drew the suspicion of law enforcement, due principally to ignorance and prejudice. Hopefully this insightful and informative video will assist in laying some of the prejudice to rest!

  • @ginabataille1796
    @ginabataille1796 6 месяцев назад +1

    Do you think locking the door of Mary Kelly's room is too sly for a schizophrenic whose violent behaviours tend to be explosive and delusional?

    • @thehouseoflechmere9407
      @thehouseoflechmere9407  6 месяцев назад

      Yes

    • @davekeating.
      @davekeating. 6 месяцев назад

      The key to the door of Mary Kelly’s room had been lost weeks earlier. You “unlocked” or opened the door by putting your hand through a broken side window and lifting the latch. On the way out you simply “locked” the door by pulling it after you.

  • @julesdelorme5192
    @julesdelorme5192 6 месяцев назад

    I would add that, while I remain a suspect agnostic, I grew up in a family of people with mental illness, and even homicidal mental illness. In almost all those cases they has periods, often before their mot violent outbursts, or lucidity, or seeming lucidity. Also, these women, almost all of them, with probably exception of Eddowes, were drunk at the time that they were killed, and were desperate for money. They might have gone in an alley with anyone. The later victims would have been more suspicious of a Toff, as that was what the killer was rumored to be. Though you could argue that they'd be equally suspicious of a Jew. What I'm saying is that, while I don't myself completely believe the killer ended up in an insane asylum, we can't discount the possibility altogether. You have the examples of Ed Gein, Kendall Francois and many others of serial killers who someone who people would obviously not trust and yet managed to kill. There's no simple or singular answer. I'm not saying your suspect is not the guy. He fits in so many ways. I'm just saying we don't know for certain because we don't know for certain.

  • @LarryEvilsizer
    @LarryEvilsizer 6 месяцев назад

    My biggest problem with Aaron Kosminski is the lack of strength required to make that long cut to Ms. Eddowes. How did Mr. Kosminski create the muscle mass needede to do that? He was an 24-year old unemployed barber who apparently roamed the pre-Pilates streets of London doing some strange things.
    Suggest "years of solitary vices" at your own peril.

  • @seankinnane12
    @seankinnane12 6 месяцев назад

    thats good logic Ed a maniac would be caught pretty quickly as you say....but when I say the ripper lived on Greenfield Rd doesnt mean it was Kosminski

  • @jamesstone9091
    @jamesstone9091 6 месяцев назад +1

    thank you HOL.

  • @markpage7196
    @markpage7196 6 месяцев назад +1

    chopped herring.

  • @VisualTedium
    @VisualTedium 6 месяцев назад +1

    Agreed

  • @ordesolomons9545
    @ordesolomons9545 6 месяцев назад

    I'm from an East End Jewish family and we always called them By-gals, as you say. associated Bay-gals with New Yorkers. Also agree with everything you say about Kosminski and the ripper, we have seen enough 'Medical Detectives' programs to know that murderers fall into very different types and many who perpetrate terrible homicides are undetectable as obviously insane.

  • @bob175
    @bob175 6 месяцев назад

    Still fancy Druitt for the job. The incarceration of his mother in the July of 1888 being the trigger and his death in December 1888 being the reason for the cessation of the murders.

    • @thehouseoflechmere9407
      @thehouseoflechmere9407  6 месяцев назад +1

      I will do a film on Druitt in due course which will probably change your opinion!

    • @jasoreed
      @jasoreed 6 месяцев назад

      Druit suffered from chronic depression and feared he would become just like his mother, he commited suicide. He was too young to commit the early torso murders .

  • @theobjectivethinker64
    @theobjectivethinker64 6 месяцев назад +2

    I have my doubts that Kosminski as a suspect is Jack the ripper. I agree a madman unlikely, but I do consider other locals apart from Lechmere that could be responsible such as James Hardiman, quite a back story, represents the type of motive we could be looking for.

  • @HaywardSouth
    @HaywardSouth 6 месяцев назад +2

    Do they sell lox? There is no point in eating bagels with just creme cheese.

    • @thehouseoflechmere9407
      @thehouseoflechmere9407  6 месяцев назад +1

      I eat them with just cream cheese. Maybe with a squirt of lemon juice. They supply it in Beigel Bake!

  • @jasoreed
    @jasoreed 6 месяцев назад +2

    Just about finished the book - cutting edge by Christor Holmgren, now I’m considering a cup of tea and a beigel. The key to understanding the ripper murders is the psychology behind the killer , skitzophrenics make bad serial killers.

  • @hughzapretti-boyden9187
    @hughzapretti-boyden9187 6 месяцев назад +5

    Load of old hogwash!😂

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 6 месяцев назад

      The Kosminski as JTR theory certainly is a load of old hogwash.

    • @susanclapp1721
      @susanclapp1721 6 месяцев назад +1

      @hughzapretti-boyden
      You could always hogwash off somewhere else. Don't let us keep you.

    • @hughzapretti-boyden9187
      @hughzapretti-boyden9187 6 месяцев назад

      @@susanclapp1721 oh dear! Triggered! Is he your boyfriend?😂

    • @TK-ux5du
      @TK-ux5du 6 месяцев назад

      So many daft handles and profiles but always the same sort of comments. 🤣🤣

    • @susanclapp1721
      @susanclapp1721 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@hughzapretti-boyden9187The Lechmere channel has certainly triggered you haha.

  • @jeffjeffreym1830
    @jeffjeffreym1830 6 месяцев назад +1

    The usual nonsense.

    • @susanclapp1721
      @susanclapp1721 6 месяцев назад +2

      Can't resist looking in though can you? Keep up the viewing there's a good chap.

    • @jeffjeffreym1830
      @jeffjeffreym1830 6 месяцев назад

      I enjoy a good chuckle...@@susanclapp1721

    • @thehouseoflechmere9407
      @thehouseoflechmere9407  6 месяцев назад

      Keep watching

    • @susanclapp1721
      @susanclapp1721 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@jeffjeffreym1830We enjoy a good chuckle at you aswell. You're keeping the viewings up 😂

    • @jeffjeffreym1830
      @jeffjeffreym1830 6 месяцев назад

      We're mainly here for the jokes.@@susanclapp1721