The ONEWHEEL ALTERNATIVE we've been waiting for?
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- This is NOT a Onewheel. It's called a Trotter Magwheel T3 and it's an electric skateboard with one wheel. While it looks like a Onewheel XR and is meant to be ridden like a Onewheel XR or Onewheel Pint, it is very different from the Onewheels made by Future Motion and we hope to show you that in this video.
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That comment by Wren at the end is why FM should be nervous. E.g. the floatwheel is a fully open platform, so it's catching up quickly. Once the software is figured out there's not much to stop trotter and others taking advantage of it and adding the extra power that the market wants. Good to see you showing the options are out there. Hope to see another collab with Mario sometime so maybe you can compare the floatwheel as well.
the software has been figured out for nearly a decade. there is NOTHING special about one wheel except the amount of anti competitive bullshit they are willing to throw up to potential competitors.
@Bean Oak well when you have millions in venture capital that is used solely for legal actions against any possible competition it kinda makes it easy to keep the market cornered. if one wheel is better...buy it. But they know if competition is allowed to exist they will get absolutely shit on. So instead of innovating....they stifle. A pretend Made in USA company that does nothing but answer to foreign investors.
Does anyone know where Onewheels are really made? I know they are assembled in the US, but where do the parts come from?
This POS will never catch up. You think they use automotive grade connectors? The build quality is nowhere near as good. Definitely bot as reliable. This is a here today gone tomorrow piece of…..
@@freshlycharged china
Finally someone to compete. Eventually cheaper prices, more features, higher speeds, longer rides. This is how you create a better company
they got a ways to go...i can see the thing wobble over bumps...lol
@@tmak4699 this could be easy fix with just an update as its only a software problem
Yep future motion will have to sue trotter to kill it
Trotter or any fake one wheel have a long way to go in software and hardware, FM had to create there own custom hub motor to make things run smooth together.
@@Frogly7 nobody is gonna develop a product as good and come in at a lower price..i tried telling these fools..
I love your Honest Reviews Jimmy. Keep em Coming. Hope your going to do the GT.
Really was about time it had some competition to make it fair priced
This video pops up as soon as I buy my first OneWheel
Would like to see an update to this. Looks like they have updated the software?
It sounds like these 3rd party onewheels need to add some filtering to the balancing algorithm. My background is in algorithms and math/simulation stuff and I can't help but feel like I could develop a perfect firmware for FOSS onewheel devices. Naturally, my coding time is already thoroughly invested in my own ventures :P Someone else will have to figure it out!
Naturally
Back when I bought my first onewheel I researched all of the options in hopes that a cheaper version would be adequate. It quickly became apparent that there really was no competition and if I wanted to shred pavement with the feel of other board sports I had to put up the cash for the real thing. There is a reason that they cost a lot. The technology in a onewheel is wayyyyy ahead of the curve. Imagine trying to drop off curbs while doing over 10 mph on a trotter😆. You would get enough airtime to log in your logbook!
I do drop off curbs at 10mph on my trotter....it's fine. It just takes more technique than doing it on a onewheel. Because the controller isn't as good as the onewheel controller your body control has to be better to do it. But because you learn on the trotter and practice on it, you naturally develop the technique necessary to do it.
The only thing that you really can't do is curb nudges. I've been trying and I can't get it to work, because the trotter attempts to stay perfectly level and has very little give in the up and down tilt of the board. That makes curb nudges really hard to pull off. But curb drops just take a little practice and you are good.
Cheap Chinese Copy!
Is this worth revisiting now comparing how the trotter is doing with it's business practices versus Future Motion?
Would probably be a worth a revisit vs the GT looking at more than just out of box experience. Secret shopper it, test the support on both sides. Test how easy it is to solve problems yourself and then fix them. Does Trotter sell you parts? Do they lock firmware? Can they accurately diagnose a simple issue over the phone or email or do they FM it and ask you to ship it back to them blanking out the battery warning on the box.
Stuff like that. Stuff people will experience if they have the 1k+ product for a sensible period of time (3+ years).
No. The trotter was shit 2 years ago. It's shit now. 😒
The OneWheel XR has been around for three years with an asking base price of $1,799 without any significant updates. This is unusual in the realm of motorized products and was one of the reasons potential buyers were hesitant in buying one in 2021. Future Motion should divert their legal budget in suing other companies and improve their product in a timely manner. Despite the number of shortcomings, Magwheel entering this specific market should shake things up.
Come on FM, the average 14 miles range on the XR is ridiculous. Range anxiety is a real thing.
Yeah they need to lower the damn price or something
They are not going to lower the price until sales slow down.
magwheel entering the market will PROVE that onewheel's "patent infringement" team have NO LEG to stand on. Running around threatening folks like Floatwheel saying they own the patent to unicycles is fucking RIDICULOUS.
@@freshlycharged you mean they wont lower the price until sales increase. one wheel doesnt have enough market share to offer a competitive priced product. They also believe they can stifle competition in the court room so they wont have to worry about competing on the open market. One wheel is a bunch of marxist cucks.
Totally agree
I always like competition! Although I don't think this is it just yet... But I'm curious, is this one as good as OneWheel's original model, or does it fall behind that one too?
Good question. Compared to the V1, it feels more stiff... other than those surges. The V1 felt too loose to me. The ride is much better now on the Onewheel XR, especially with custom shaping.
FINALLY. Some competition! They've been resting on their laurels WAY too long... all these years. Only 2 models? No real advances. No real company backed mods. This is why euc and scooter tech is exploding at the seams right now. In the long run, consumers win when there is competition 💯
@@mig6220 the Trotter isn't even close to competition. That's like saying go-karts can compete with NASCAR 🤣
@@c0pyimitati0n exactly
@Bean Oak he started out on a trotter and switched to Onewheel
Loved this video Jimmy! Great work! 🤙
Thanks for always inspiring! Can’t believe it’s been 2 years since we last spoke! I’ll always remember your advice about finding ways to rise above the sea of banality.
Cool
I have one of the first Magwheels in the states. I'm on the first controller and agree about the jerkiness, etc. I'm not an amazing rider, but I'm solid on trails with my Pint. Joe from IE rode my Mag on trails with me because I thought my Mag was broke. I couldn't keep up with him. The Mag takes different muscle memory and coming from a OW is a disadvantage if you try to go to a Mag. FM does have a secret sauce that makes their boards super smooth and I prefer them (because I need that compensation) but if the new Mag controllers catch up the Trotters are gonna be good competition for FM.
Nice idea to let a newbie test the differences, but once he said it's easier to carve, you started putting words in his mouth instead of letting him describe the differences 🤷🏻♂️
On the next new device you should have a newbie test the other device first, before the onewheel.. and hold back your opinions to not influence the tester
Good advice!
@@freshlycharged definitely good advice. You made a video to trash the trotter like every fan boy does. Good job
@@up_on_one1151 bro I never comment on RUclips but you need to chill lol. Jimmy is for the culture. It was a great video and he regularly pumps out excellent videos. Just a small critique. Keep it up Jimmy!! Seems like you are an amazing dad
Should do a video on the jw lawsuit
Do you think there would be interest?
@@freshlycharged you did a video on the wrongful death lawsuits already
@@freshlycharged Most definitely. I'd watch it ad or no ads.
When will FM be filing its lawsuit? 😂 EUC>onewheel
They do seem to keep their lawyers busy!
hahahaha yesterday probably
They don’t need to file a lawsuit. The people that buy this piece of crap and eat dirt on it will be filing the lawsuit. The magwheel is definitely not ready for prime time.
@@xavierathorne never eat dirt and my 11 yr old probably could outside you on it. Fm fancy. Back in my skating days you would be called a poser.
FM did sue trotter already but fail. Trotter actually came out first.
I hope someone kicks FM off their lack of innovation, high horse.
With increased battery, safety and power. It should be soon. EUC master race though.
Jimmy is attempting to mount this thing the same way he mounts the Onewheel, having the back side on the ground and the front side up. This works fine for the Onewheel because the sensors are on the front and as you mount and put presure on the front, it moves forward. The T3 has sensors in both the front and back and mounting the back foot first causes it to go on reverse as it engages. The best way to mount this T3 is opposite to the Onewheel, mounting the front foot first and then the back foot, this way it will always move forward when you mount. It takes time to get used to it, especially if you've been riding a Onewheel for a while.
So... Mount it in a completely unintuitive way?
@@thomasnguyen5295 you can mount it the way he says, but actually mounting it the other way is fine. You just have to put your weigh slightly forward when you mount it and it stand up perfectly smoothly. It takes like 10 tries to figure it out.
Also the board he has in this video is obviously off balance. Mine stands up unlike his.
I have a trotter and not a onewheel. The best way I've found to mount the trotter is to put the back foot on, and then use your front foot to give the board a little shove forward (as opposed to pushing down on the footpad like you do on a onewheel). Aim to push the board and your body 3-6" forward with the shove, and put your body weight into it. It will take this forward motion and use it to balance as it levels out. Doing that makes the mounting process MUCH smoother.
And? How do you like riding it and can it handle rocks and bumps and dips, etc? What about hills?
This video only tells how good the Onewheel is. I love my Pint. Thanks for sharing.
Exactly!
I hate future motion as a company and honestly hope they go under at this point.
Any competition is greatly appreciated.
I swear that's Wren's voice at the end... fun to hear his reaction! Cool that he got to explain what keeps Future Motion ahead, that's totally his kind of thing to explain.
Yup. That was Wren!
Yeah I thought the same thing
Jimmy your kids are lucky to have such a cool dad.
I respect you so much Jimmy I've been wanting a one wheel pint for about 3 years now but never been able to afford one I love watching your videos and they make me happy keep doing what your doing Jimmy!!!
Onewheel offers financing with 0% interest. Don’t make anymore excuses, onewheel s are life changing!
Don't waste your money on them
I don't even care if it's "crap". It's still _competition,_ something this particular segment of personal EVs is sorely lacking.
Can I borrow that...? 👀
Also, this video was awesome. The dad of PEVs still reigns. 🙏
@@TheBoardGarage "Dad of PEVs" is so accurate lol. Video on JW lawsuit coming??
WHO'S YOUR PEV DADDY?
@@on3jp Unfortunately not... Wife advised against it. Not worth the risk currently.
Bruh.
Another cheap Chinese made products try to copy. nth but just cheap, looking cheap in overall.
Haha totter is a joke and a knock offf
Not a joke. Yes a knock off.
Definitely a joke.
I liked subscribed and hit the bell Jimmy Chang!
I actually unsubbed because of this video. Used to love this channel
Onewheel is good but the day you have a problem... it gets horrible
Agree.
Then you learn from your mistake. I had a problem around 100 miles and now I’m at 2,500 miles with no issues.
@@nyccollin Yeah, i love my board but i just had the motor stop at around 19mph and fell off the board. Got the error 16 so i guess hardware failure. This happened with the board beeing within warranty so less than a year old but i had more miles on the board than what stands on the warranty sheet. How is it even a thing to add a distance limit as warranty? I don't regret purchasing my board but looking at the repair costs, like 500 - 600 usd here in switzerland + the injuries i got while falling down, i'm a bit upset
Yes but does it brick itself if you try to unplug the battery? no? Sold.
Wow a friend has a Onewheel and goes everywhere on it. I can't imagine trying to ride one without crashing.
I've ridden my onewheel for about 800 miles and I've never fallen or crashed. I just never ride faster than I can run if I have to jump off
Programing a lava lamp sequence with my arduino project ended up more then I thought. self balancing and acceleration must be tough.
I choose Onewheel 🤘🏾⚡️🤘🏾😅
Thank you, at least a few of us in here haven’t lost our minds.
Love the fact you found someone fair to judge that isn't biased yet
I was extremely disappointed in the overall performance. The firmware on a onewheel is definitely far superior.
Not after the updates that crippled it.
Newest One Wheel GT is far superior. In spite of there flaws future motion simply makes a more reliable product.
@@Silver788PDX it's not Superior if you have to send it in every time you want to tire change battery change repair because it's not waterproof.
And I find a product that's not actually owned by you Superior sounds pretty in inferior to me you have to buy a new one wheel GT every time something breaks on it.
Due to the shipping cost not to mention some of the major shipping carriers won't even ship one wheel products anymore because they're so shady.
I mean if you want to be that dumbass that bought fallout 76 or cyberpunk even after it was clear it was a broken product.
@@anarex0929 your need to default to personal insult pretty much invalidates your can opinion that you typed on your iPhone.. just ride your trash board and deal with it. 🤷🏻♂️ I'm happy with my choices and I don't need resort to personal insults to try and validate my point.
Just the dismount alone is enough to deter Most. Having to hop off everytime i would need to stop for a stop sign or a pedestrian.
@Bean Oak To each's own my friend. I've always been accustomed to stopping like a skateboard.
@@one_point21_gigawatts i can stop my magwheel fine without hopping off. Maybe everyone should I ld actually research rather than watch this bs. Fan boy and take his opinion only
@@up_on_one1151 It definitely does not ride as smooth as a One wheel, its apparant in the video... A second rate product dude- fact.
@@one_point21_gigawatts I've ridden both and hated the xr
@@one_point21_gigawatts he doesn't have it set up right with tire air pressure or anything.
Was wondering why your daughter doesn't wear knee protection. It seems when she fell forward her knees were the first to touch the ground.
Never driven a one-wheeler before, so have no idea about 'safety precautions'. So this is more out of curiosity.
How to make it clear you either don't know what you're talking about and/or you don't know how to explain yourself. Tuning an engine/motor is not going to have an effect on how soft the suspension is.
This is a good review love it
I know joe he lives in my town and he let me ride one of his trotters
I think you are spot on with the review I like the trotters and the direction they are going with them and the fact we can get any part for them or up grades I can’t to see what they in store for the future
My name is Maddox and I’ve have never heard of anyone who shares my name(other than a baseball player) who has the same name as me so when he said that his name in Maddox, I started choking on my food
There is nothing like the feeling of a OneWheel. Especially my beloved XR.
I agree there needs to be more competition. One wheel looks better and I was turned off by the surging I saw. I’m sure it will improve.
Chinese made garbage? Nah, I'll stick to OneWheel
Just will take a bit more development, screw future motion rippin customers off
Hearing my bro Javier Starks' voice was a nice surprise. Shout out to the Onewheel Wing.
Yeah, I think I'll stick to the Onewheel. Not mad at competition though.
Javier is a good dude!
@@freshlycharged Agreed. Keep up the great work!
Bru the Swiss Army knife analogy
Kudos to you
Thanks for the video. I live in Bentonville AR and last weekend saw so many One Wheel riders for the first time. Interesting device and this video helped me understand how it works. :)
Impressive gathering!
Great to see JC on a Trotter. Looks like it still has a way to go to be close to even DIY VESC capabilities right now
It has a way to go, but I like that people are trying. If anything it may inspire FM to work on their flagship product to make it even better.
@@freshlycharged lol no thats not how fm works. they will sue sue sue and offer the same crap product with zero innovation at a premium price.
@@DieselRamcharger sorry you don’t own a onewheel. Nothing needs to be changed, it’s a perfect product as it is.
@@nyccollin i never said anything needs to be changed on a onewheel. You have COMPLETELY missed the point. If it was a perfect product Future Motion wouldnt be embroiled in continual wrongful death suits, the Houston one they already lost. San Diego up next. Lets try to stick to facts to your fan boy ignorance and conjecture.
You could always drop a vesc into the trotter and use that big 13 inch hub motor
5:11 This POS beeps for any reason.
It beeps if the battery is low, if you're going too fast, or if the board rolls on its side. I got my Trotter in 2017 and had it for a year before the XR dropped and I can definitely say that beep is enough to drive you insane.
That beep will drive your crazy 🤣
I can’t believe they’re asking $1399 for this POS. ITS MAYBE worth 2-3 hundred.
@@nyccollin Yes, worth 2-300 with a bigger battery, bigger motor, bigger tire, and more aluminum in it than the onewheel has. The parts alone are worth more than that.
Plus the board rides fine. It just takes more practice than a onewheel. You can't rely on the software to do things for you, you have to actually be good at it. That means a longer learning curve sure, but it doesn't make it a bad product.
Hey Jimmy,
it's the German guy who asked you to do a review of the Trotter ... two years ago. I'm glad to see that you finally gave it a shot :-)
Considering countless comments of the past years that came down to mere 'knock-off' verdicts, I expected lots of condescending remarks on the Chinese competitor. Well, maybe the overall vibe about the FM monopoly has changed a bit since then. And maybe your channel attracts a different kind of audience.
I don't have any experience with the 1500 watt T3 but it seems that the product still needs some refinement. Same phenomenon to be seen when new EUC's enter the market. And, in my opinion, the battery size for now doesn't match the appetite the bigger motor comes with.
But being the happy owner of a 700 watt Trotter since 2017, I can assure everyone that the Trotter company builds devices you can count on. Apart from a battery upgrade from 4.4 Ah to 7 Ah [which a local expert did for me - without getting sewed or anything] my Trotter has remained in its original state. The tire e.g. looks just the way it did when I received it. And I ride offroad most of the time.
I'm looking forward to see the evolution of the Trotter MAGwheel and I hope that the OneWheel community will keep an eye on it, too. It's good to have the freedom of choice, isn't it?
Best wishes, Nordlicht.
'without getting sued' that is, ; )
I remember those emails! I appreciate the support. I really do hope they continue to improve the product.
I do not own a FM OneWheel, only road a Pint once, which was o.k. till I tried a pirouette and leaned too far in... took off the back foot ... the thing took off and dragged me down.
Mounting my Trotter [I ride regular, so my right back foot is down] is buttery smooth, I can pretty much level it on a dime, stand still on it and go either way - as Jimmy put it in the video: just let it do its thing, get the hang of it, don't jerk around.
When stopping, hopping off is best for me, front foot to the left, back foot to the right, Trotter stands upright in the middle.
If the 1500 watt should generally fall to the closed side of the rim and beep immediately ... now that should be annoying.
@@nordlichtgermany My t3 stands up, but it is slightly off balance and does occasionally fall over if the ground isn't level. Kind of annoying and I've thought of adding weights to it to fix the balance.
AND you can ride this to IN-N-OUT burger!
I use to have the older model trotter and upgraded to the pint but I have the inverse view, the trotter did like to start by reversing until I adjusted the level by holding the power but in motion it felt rock solid and responsive, the only issue I had was that the waterproofing was non existent so blew up a couple of controllers so decided to get the pint which was twice the price and learning to start the pint without it rushing off and burning it's tire because of the lack of a back sensor took a lot to get use too, I feel the trotter I got which was only £500 is a good starting board for those that want to test if it is for them but then upgrade if they like it, the pint I feel is a danger to people starting out as it is much harder to learn if you don't have someone to help but the pint is a more enjoyable ride
Thanks again for this video. You’re one of the reasons why I got a Onewheel #pint and also wear safety gear. - aloha from Hawai’i
The onewheel XR and pint just looks a lot more polished. For now i wouldn't even think about getting a trotter.
The Trotter has a way to go, but I like that people are trying. If anything it may inspire FM to work on their flagship product to make it even better.
@@freshlycharged maybe then future motion will start including the XLR plug cover for their one wheel... with the price they're already charging it's literally the least they could do.
Who’s watching this after the Floatwheel dropped 😂
Overprice 🚮. As you were
Looks like the Trotter is missing what makes riding a Onewheel special - The Float Feeling. And if it is missing it, it's overpriced.
Yep. It’s a POS
@@nyccollin Nah, just different. The trotter feels more like riding a skateboard than the onewheel does. Takes more practice, but once you get it and you learn how to take drops and bumps and whatnot it becomes very easy to ride. You just have to develop the muscle memory.
Best Onewheel alternative is an EUC. Farrrr more power, range, comfort, speed, and terrain capability than the Onewheel could ever dream of. All for about the same amount of money. When I made the switch from Onewheel my options were upgrade to the XR for $1,800 to go 18 miles or switch to euc for $2,200 and go 70-90 miles plus all the extra mentioned above. The choice was simple but I would like for Future Motion to produce an euc! I think they’d make a terrific one.
Try getting on the opposite way.Meaning nose down position to mount.
That makes a lot of sense. So the levelling action starts moving you forward, you could actually take off faster than a onewheel.
Or don’t try it at all and pay the extra $400
I met Joe there at the StokeLifeService tent, class act thru and thru! Can’t wait to do business with him
Two products that I think you should check out that could revolutionize the market: Shred Town Batteries In-Fender Pint battery (maybe the Pint becomes the go to now with a range of 20 miles and STILL cheaper than the XR?), and the Float Wheel (the DIY OneWheel for $650!). Keep up the great content!
Alittle bit different, but kinda the same xD Shootout to Seth at BermPeak
Love Seth! But why the shoutout?
I can use an update Mr. Chang on whether you enjoy the EUC or onewheel more since you have had more time with EUC. I am new to all of this and am trying to figure out if i should get the one wheel or EUC. The EUC doesn't look comfortable but looks fun. The one wheel looks comfortable and more comparable to surfing, skateboarding, etc. Thanks!
Both different rides that I enjoy for different reasons. But if I have to pick one, hands down, the EUC is my go to gadget... and 3 out of my 4 kids would pick the EUC over the Onewheel while one kid would pick the ebike as his PEV of choice.
@@freshlycharged sweet! thanks Mr. Chang, i appreciate you taking the time to respond. maybe you can do a video with the new EUC that has the tesla battery! what a game changer!
Kyle and crew figured it out at OneWheel. I would never buy this.
It's not a Onewheel, but it's getting a little closer to having viable competition.
Exactly. Wouldn’t even consider it. The name alone is stupid.
1:50 sold separately 🤦♂️ wow…….
Now for the important question. Can you service and repair the device without having to deal with the manufacturer?
Wish we had sub $1,000 options :(
Maybe a used pint?
A new Pint is sub $1000
Right? It’s hilarious that they’re asking over $200 for this pile of s…
Great video as usual. I love the fact that you’re on top of all the new stuff out there. Looking forward to more content. Can you do a review of Floatwheel. Mario had one. I’ve have one plus a Pint and they are very close. Would love to get your opinion. Be sure you use Surfdado’s firmware 51 on it though. That is a key ingredient to it being close to “other” more popular onewheels.
#NOOOOO!!!!!! Don't market THIS AT THIS PRICE RATE. ITS NOT RIGHT. THE TROTTER MAGWHEEL WAS 800 dollars. -1- Year ago. ----- -1- YEAR EVERYONE
Trotter has twice the power but dumps the rider in the beginning that was going over a few LITTLE whoopsie Doos and has trouble going up hills? I will stick with my XR with a CBXR battery
🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Does that MTB helmet provide good protection if your head hits the asphalt? I have the same helmet but in sand color and it doesn't feel like it offers much protection. $325 I paid for it.
The controller on the t3 is crap.. Or at least the firmware is crap. Putting a vesc in one of these could actually be a very cheap way to get a very cheap diy onewheel with minimal effort. I'm about to do this with a ubox controller.
Is that Wren from Corridor i hear?
Immediately recognizing Wren's voice...
You're at a house and can't find a knife? 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
How much they paid you? It looks like made in garage, thight space between tire, crazy starting (good luck for begginers), falling on the side means also that during ride it wants to turn a bit 😂
I almost bought a customized trotter for $925...junk! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
They don't really talk about the software and it's the most important. The Magwheel (trotter) has a really bad software that make it really inestable and dangerous. I bought the Magwheel to save money, but it's the worst decition i made. When it comes some irregularity in the way in the road, like just a tree branch, it loose the balance and you fall. It is really inestable and dangerous!
Hey Jimmy and T3 riders, where did you purchase your T3?
I'm living in Toronto and not sure where can I get that. Please educat me. Thanks!
12:10 - Thought you were going to say "the competition" lol.
Edit: Okay the competition element was mentioned after that. Not that this current thing is going to provide much competition, but still.
Trotter need to upgrade the battery to support the high motor wattage. Their battery is using 7A, whereas batteries on top end vesc onewheels can output around 80A.
A trotter with a great battery in could be much better. Hell, even vesc a trotter bc that motor wattage is close to a superflux.
Great review...TERRIBLE PRODUCT. As mentioned, rough draft, or rough sketch.
I ride off-road. These one wheel toys are very slow and have "NO" uphill capability. Who wants to not be able to ride these toys in my yard? Ugh week.
Nike has reebok? REEBOK? For real did I accidentally wake up in 2005 again?
Kidding aside great vid man!
neat to see something is trying to be like the onewheel but I think it definately needs tuning. FM not being right to repair friendly is eventually going to lead to their downfall if they dont change and people figure out the ride of the onewheel and what makes it that way. I know the DIY is getting close but isnt there yet. I would love for my next board to be something not from FM and something I can maintain myself long term. for now like everyone else I will just hop on my XR and it is what it is.
Nah they should just give up. Never should have released it in this state.
That comment about how FM is overpriced. Amen. They have almost full monopoly on this and their prices are awful, specially overseas.
I wouldn't pay more than 500$ for a one wheel made by any manufacturer. Anything above that price range basically beats it in power and battery size( EUC's, e-bikes, scooters, etc). There is really no where to evolve with the one wheel design as the board itself limits possible battery capacity. Earlier this year I bought a Mten3(67v,420wh, with Nikola pedals) for 600$. It goes faster, up and down steeper inclines, and farther than my friends XR that cost three times the price. I ended up buying another EUC(2500w, 1600wh MSX) for $1600 new which is still cheaper than the XR's and just blows them completely out of the water. The price and what you get is just not comparable. I like riding one wheels, because it's like surfing in the air, but the price is just crazy.
You are preaching to the choir! Love my EUCs!
Wait, so you're opening this thing, you pull out the case, you're amazed it came with it and the captions reads *sold separately? Already, this is b.s. you lost me at this...
Complete honest opinion... I went from a trotter t3 to a onewheel xr, the ow is amazing in comparison to safety and handling. Trotter is just difficult to dismount and clunky feeling on rides. Plus ow has an app to keep up with battery life maintenance and overall performance. U definitely get what u pay for
Totally agree
Definitely not a controlled blinded experiment. The surf kid said the trotter carved better and Jimmy was leading the kid to pick the onewheel. Ya the onewheel is better but Jimmy definitely influenced the kid to vote a certain way.
Can a 60 year old dude ride a Onewheel? Or is it just too late to learn that? I'm no adrenaline junky, I would just like a slowish mellow ride along some bike trails. Cheers!
There’s only one… OneWheel 🤣🤣
That's the problem... the market needs competition and options.
@@freshlycharged I'm with you, Future Motion should have competition, that would be best for us consumers, but there ARE other options, not just this Ttrotter, but also scooters, and still nobody can yet catch up to OneWheel. It reminds me of the iPhone, it took a few years before they had a serious competitor from Samsung and other brands, and they are still the leader in mobile devices. At the end of the day OneWheel has a very unique product that others will try to immitate and sell for a lower price, but is not a oneWheel...
@@freshlycharged no it doesn’t. People just need to get a onewheel if they want a onewheel.
@@nyccollin lol what? Why would you want less options as a consumer? If you wanna keep buying the same thing over and over nobody is stopping you.
tried to order one but their webiste says that preorder before 4/30/21 and that shipping would start in may, tried to send them an email and cant seem to get a response.....is this project dead?
The Trotter is a f'n joke... I was probably the first person to own one in America and I can absolutely say it SUCKS!
It doesn't matter if there is a bigger motor when the electronics SUCK! The sensors are an absolute joke... It's the most shaky ride ever. It feels like a toy. Just get a OneWheel and save your money.
Lol and it's $1400? 🤦♂️ What a waste of money..
If the Trotter in 2021 rides like this, I can’t imagine what the Trotter was like when it first released years ago!
@@freshlycharged It was garbage with no quality control
Thank you everyone for the great comments! This thing is junk.
@@freshlycharged you just can't ride. People like u ou used to be called posers back in the day.
I don’t think that a difference in 400 dollars can really warrant them being called a competitor and they are nearly identical.
Be like going to buy candy bar and they are all exactly the same but just slightly more or less then one another no matter what the brand is.
Good video. Your comments biased the surfers thoughts though. Would of been nice to hear his thoughts also🤷🏿♂️
This is straight out a copy of oneWheel and I think they will get sued. Wat's the point of protecting your invention if they got cloned. O this one falls to the side really!?
Maybe the magwheel doesnt have a problem of software,but hardware,since it uses sensors for pressure,and onewheel doesnt seem to use such,seems that that is the magwheels downfall.
LMAO, that isss the Jeep handle from amazon. Or one of them lol. I think that’s the exact one I have. Came in a 5 pack hahaha.