He is a western, Greek-looking, Turk. That is why. Most Turks don't look like that. There is a reason why in Turkish media, series, films they select Greek-looking actors to play the protagonist roles.
@@OdaSakunosuke-k2z Silly question trying to avoid the evident fact of life I mentioned above. No, silly, not every handsome man looks Greek. And no, silly, I did not refer to Greek women. So why do you feel the need to distort so horribly what I said above in a typical strawman fashion? I will tell you why: because you know what I say above it true. Turks are a nation made up by all islamified turkified populations of Minor Asia, Middle East and Balkans. Among them Greeks of course. Some 10% of modern Turks derive their genetics predominantly from Greek populations while there are another 10% Anatolian Turks who derive their genetics predominantly from indigenous extinct anatolian ethnicities such as Lydians, Phrygians, Lycians, Carians - who of course were genetically very close to Greeks hence sported too Greek phenotypes. Overall, whatever their genetics are, about 20% of Turks have Greek-like features. However the majority of Turks clearly don't have Greek phenotypes. They may have eastern Anatolian ones, Middle Eastern, Caucasian, even Slavic (Balkan or Ukrainian like). And of course still a 10% of Turks sport intense Turkomongolic features (throughout Turkey but especially people down there in Antalya region, surrounding Cemer - see how well I know Turkey, silly?) while a large number of Turkish population (up to 25%) have partial Mongolic features which we often see in Turkish politicians (Menderes, Ozal, Erbakan etc. - see how well I know you Turks, silly?). It goes without saying that good looking people may arise from any of these genetically diverse populations. However, Turkish media has cultivated a mono-culture of male A-role protagonist actors who are all almost exclusively of Greek-like appearance. No Turkomongols are sold as A-role actors. And hardly any Middle Eastern faces like the millions of them we see throughout Turkey. It is Greek-like men only, like this man here who is supposed to be charismatic because why? Because he looks like a Greek. Sounds like a joke, and it would be a joke if it was not the sad reality for Turks. Turks maybe proud of themselves but deep down they hate themselves and they try to portray them as... Greeks. But that is for the men. The women, anything goes. Contrary to A-role male actors who are Greek-like, the A-role female actors in Turkey are not all Greek-like, in fact they are more representative of Turkey's varied genetics. The fascination with Greek looks thus is restricted to men only, not to women. Whether that is a complex of inferiority of Turkish men who wish to appear as more Greek or the fascination of Turkish women with Greek men, one thing is for sure : that in Turkey, the Greek phenotype is automatically placed at the societal top even in spite of the fact that traditionally in Turkey the Turkomongolic people still hold considerable power being over-represented in politics and institutions.
@@Fokas-n8tTurks carry Anatolian, Central Asian and Balkan genes. Middle Eastern types are generally Syrian refugees and Kurds. I don't know what you mean by Greek type. Why is the possibility that Greeks also carry Turkish genes in their people ignored? Today, no race is 100% pure. Am I to conclude from the monotonous Greek stereotype in the mind of a fool that the Turks want to be like the Greeks, when the people of both cultures are so diverse and similar? If I were to give examples of famous Turkish actors, Barış Arduç, Çağlar Ertuğrul, Kerem Bürsin, Murat Yıldırım, Ozan Dolunay, Birkan Sokullu, Mert Fırat, Onur Seyit Yaran... they are all typical Turkish men.
Guys, you are doing good stuff. They all have different personalities which is nice for format but they all slightly insecure while behaving as a group. I suggest you to make those people know better about each other and more relaxed and then they will become their best which will be good for getting popular of them, the channel and the balkan culture. Also, the Turkish and Croat/Bosnian dude has a bromance potential :).
@@BIGNEM2 no such thing buddy. There is Croatian and there is Serbian. Try translating state documents from Croatian into Serbian and you are going to have a hard time. Yes we understand each other, but that is not the unique criteria to determine if it's the same language. The more complex the subject of the conversation is, the more do Croatian and Serbian differ. In this video Croatian language was spoken.
@@BIGNEM2 Macedonian is 90% similar to Bulgarian, making it very different to Croatian and Serbian. Some even argue that its a Bulgarian dialect... As a Croat I can understand maybe 30% (or less) of Macedonian. Lovely people tho, very hospitable.
Used to be one country before no?! Yugoslavia if you did not know...of course they understand each other...they are different but mostly the same! Basic knowledge my man of geography!!!
As a Croatian, I have to say that even my Croatian friends tell me I'm too blunt. That part about assertiveness is absolutely true. I comfortably directly hit on women in the middle of the day in front of a few friends, and I have no problem hitting on her friend a few days later if she rejects, but at the same time we're very monogamous. I like that I can do that.
I think my issue with this protector mentality is that it's expected he protects you but not the other way around. Can't we both just protect each other?
Who said it's not the other way round? Those are just different kinds of protection: I protect home - do the cleaning, the washing, the cooking, the comfort, I raise kids.. You protect us with your confidence that everything is going to be fine as we women tend to overdo with emotions. I will appreciate it if you protect us financially and physically against the hardships of the world. Balcan and other Slav women work getting at least the same, often higher salaries. So there just should be something they would rather not do themselves - carry heavy shopping bags, open grand doors, fix something at home or not pay at a restaurant. Women of these cultures usually do much more than men, thus at least some manhood is expected.
@@nataliasolita8152 I just don't see why things need to be gender specific. I don't see how being financially secure is a manhood thing. It implies its only for men when really its again not gender specific. Most things are not. I mean, you do you, I just personally don't see it as something that is a "should"
@@nataliasolita8152 I'm well aware they are simply speaking about what their culture says. But frankly, even with my own cultures (Chinese and Canadian) I don't quite get it. There's nothing he can protect me from that I can't do. In Canada often, it's a knife attack or a gun. It makes no difference unless he knows martial arts. I know a bit too. But in the end neither of us can fend of a gun shot. So... I don't see why we still have the culture that the man must protect. Protect from what?
@@silveryfeather208 I think you have just one meaning of protection on your mind - physical ptotection against enemies. As I mentioned earlier, there are other types too and the one you are thinking of was not even among the ones that were on mine.
Bosnian dude looks like such a likeable person. He seems to be the ideal person u want to chill and drink rakija (or raki as we call it) with the appropriate meze and chat about everything and nothing at the same time. Alexandra also needs to update her perception of Greek views on dating: - Needing the approval to even start a relationship? Absolutely not happening for quite some time now. Only for marriage and only in villages. There might be some subtle influencing from a relative for the person u date but only in extreme cases will they prevent u from marrying let alone dating anyone. We are nothing like the old Greek movies. - Younger generations don't really follow the traditional gender roles anymore. Only the older ones do so. Even if they wanted to most salaries are not sufficient to provide for the house especially if there are kids included. - Women having kids comes before having a career? I knew this was way off so i googled it. Average age of a Greek woman to have her first kid varies (depending on the source ofc) between 30,6 to 31,2. The latter btw is the world's oldest average age for first kid.
@@cuorenerazzurro1661 Agreed, Greeks are more Southern European Mediterranean rather than Balkan in culture and mentality. A little Balkan but much more Southern in my opinion.
@@Alexs.2599 similar to south Italians, maybe northern Greeks may be considered somehow Balkans by culture or even appearance for some of them but central and southern Greeks look even more like Lebanese rather than other Balkan countries
@@cuorenerazzurro1661 Agreed, I would say though some Christian Lebanese people can look similar to certain Greeks. Greeks look like Greeks first. Than I would say similar to Southern Italians, maybe a little bit central Italian looking possibly. Than our neighbors: Southern Albanians, some Bulgarians. Than you have some Greeks that can pass as pan European. There are some Greeks that can even pass for Iberian. The more western looking Greeks. There are some Turks, especially from western Turkey, that can look similar to Greeks. We're basically a Southern South Eastern European people.
@@Alexs.2599 Spain, Southern Italy, Greece and Western Turkey has southern European vibes but I won't say Greece is more Southern European than Balkan.
How did you find these girls speaking fluent English? I guess they're living in the US for a long while. Also their general personality/vibe is reminding me more of an American girl than a Croatian/Macedonian (I met quite a few of them).
God, where are you from, 🙄 whole ex Yugoslav area is very good in foreign languages and particularly in English. I was fluent in English when I was 15. I'm 30 now. School is tough over here, you know. 😒😒😒
I'm glad you're fluent in English! However I've never met anyone who speaks a foreign language without any accent and has not lived extensively amongst native people. School won't teach you that level no matter how tough it is...
@@zpruzsinszki it depends on a teacher, how long have you been exposed to content in English (most of our TV programme is heavily imported from anglosphere) and from what is your native dialect. However, I will argue there is a factor that beats them all, which may surprise you. :/ I can talk without foreign sounding accent, but as I was spending extensive amount of time talking with foreigners, I realised why my university teachers, some of which completed their PhD-s in Oxford and Cambridge, had a very, very hard accent when they would be speaking English while hosting foreign guest teachers (they absolutely didn't need them, they spoke more than 4 languages some of which had distinct accents and they were great in them). Only then I realised why they were "allowing" themselves to do this (only when it comes to English). Well, the thing is, a typical southern slavic person *can* imitate accents, pronunciations etc very easily, since we have a variety of accents and dialects on very small area and it's fun to imitate them growing up - especially for a speaker of official dialect Croatian and official dialect Serbian ones, because they are very flat and can be coloured into anything. But... When it comes to languages like English or Dutch or whatever language has that sound (r pronounced in English pronunciation) and the gluttal stop... It just tires us down. After a while it literally starts feeling like you're choking. My throat hurt only after an hour first time I spoke with my Canadian colleague in neutral sounding English. But it really starts to be bothersome after a while, when this experience repeats. I found that after that point, I often can't relax because I'm losing breath because throat is literally in pain. Ask any southern slavic who had experience of lengthy talk in English. It just feels like choking. We have r that rolls and that carries a lot of sound on "it's wings", and the sounds are very clear, which makes it possible to talk very fast. (draw into memory typical Russian talk) Although I can talk fast in English, it's nowhere as efficient as when I disregard intention to sound neutral. In this sense, it's really wiser to just quit that and just talk with stresses or accents like we're used to do in our own language. It's faster, it doesn't slow down the thoughts, it's more efficient, and most importantly, unlike in many languages where length of a vowel may change entire meaning of the word (including in our languages) - it's still perfectly understandable. So chances are, those people you met were capable to do neutral accent and pronunciation, maybe even mastered British accent (like one of my teachers who had degree from Oxford) - they just didn't feel like doing it. I think these people in the video spoke as they did because some of the following : - it wasn't a long time that they spent talking so they could show their best - they found a way how to talk for long without burning their throat because it became a life saving skill in new environment and they wanted to present themselves as respectful to the environment by not twisting the sounds, when they already are able to do it right ... In general, southern slavs are most adaptable immigrants, including in picking up foreign accents, even among the slavic branches. Eastern slavic, for example, have melodic accents and some sounds which are not clear, so it's much harder for them to do the same. Western slavic are better at it but lesser number of people speak English well there than in the touristy Balkans, where German and English education starts at age 6. 🤷
As a Croatian guy (Southern Croatia) , I don't relate myself and my family traditions at all to this new, over-simplified and romantic picture of the 'Balkan' culture shown in this RUclips series. I am afraid that my opinion will be unpopular one. I don't say this does not exist, it's just one face, and just one face, a one dimension of Balkan that is lately becoming more popular and more suitable for generalization, and thus more acceptable for the new Western tastes trying to replace the old stereotypes. In the past Balkan was seen almost exclusively as a primitive, wild, uncivilized, mountainous backwater of Europe. Nowadays, the Balkan becomes a land of beautiful, authentic family ties and pastoral traditions, a land of warm, kind, loyal and empathetic, but strong, energetic and brave men and women eating grilled meat and drinking rakija that, after the wars, discover mutual similarities and become best friends....so many new stereotypes are trying to be created. Balkan is much more diverse in terms of culture and traditions, food, language, religion and music. In Croatia we are very much aware of that and because of that we experience an everlasting national identity crisis and a a lot of misunderstanding between our own people, not to mention between our closest Balkan neighbors. There is a many beautiful things about the mix of cultures and traditions in the Balkans. In some of those cultures, alcohol brings out good emotions and good vibes...it's connecting people. But too much alcohol sometimes brings out dark and violent forces buried within one-selves, within the families, within the neighbors, within the regions of the same country, and between different nations and countries....these dark forces won't go away just like that
I have to add that I don't drink rakija and other alcohol drinks at all. I have a big family and, while growing up, I never saw any of them drunk even tho my grandpa had a big vineyard and was producing his own vine.
He is an ethnic Croat from Bosnia (Livno is a majority Croatian town in Bosnia-Herz) He is a Roman Catholic Croat from Bosnia with Croatian & Bosnia Citizenship. Croats are one of the 3 constitutive ethnic groups of Bosnia. If you notice above his name Mate (Catholic Croat name) it shows a Croatian and Bosnian flag.
@@salmarcano4057 I don't want to separate myself from the other people of the Balkans, I just haven't been grown up feeling a particular connection per se while recognizing the similarities. Idk maybe that's because Balkans were closed up due to communism, so today it's more easy to reconnect.
Alexandra was our first crush from previous videos, now it's Paula. 🤣 Also that behaviour that they describe has a lot to do with gender historical roles and religion. No judgement though.
In Balkans when it comes to dating/marrying, the worst is the family (your parents, siblings, relatives and even friends), they will kick your arse to get married ASAP but are still extremly PICKY especially when it comes to age difference, if you are 25 and want to marry a guy 40 (who is super handsome, athletic, has stable economy/job, never had a relationship and all that, you wont ever find a 25 year old guy like this!) they will go against it despite not knowing the guy and not even want to know the guy and refuse to see how that guy is better for your daughter.... "Nah, just marry that 25 year old burger switching farmer here, its a good boy, we know his family".... i hate this about Balkans..... so if you marry the other guy anyways you are basically ending the relationship with your parents etc.
Im a Turk . I've lived in Romania for 6 months. I've been to Bulgaria and Serbia as well. I was 23 at that time.From my personal experience, I gotta say Bosnia and Albania have the most conservative marriage focused women. Most of the women that I met in Romania were westernized liberal women, Although there are so many conservative woman that I met but they were older than me. I met one Albanian and she was very very conservative family oriented. Greek adn Turkish women that I met in Romania also very westernized and liberal. But they carry their roots and their culture. so it was a eye opening for me to see the other cultures :)
Hmm…tbh I think that parental pressure about kids and marriage might be universal. 😅 I’m American and we hear it too, though probably not as intensely? I’m not sure, but it feels annoying and stressful to hear regardless lol. Also, that girls “drama strut” was hilarious 🤣
I'm sorry to be so blunt (even though this video generally says "we" are "always blunt"), but as a person from an urban environment in Croatia, I must say the "Croatian" girl (how many generations in diaspora removed from contemporary Croatia?) describes people who would be described as "seljačina" where I live. Google it. This is Croatia her grandparents that moved across the ocean remembered, not real Croatia where people today have as few children as late and with as many divorces as basically any western country, and where women are managers (in all of my job until now most of my bosses were women lol) and politicians (even the last president). Anyway she's describing rural areas 50 years ago, but basically, even people who live in rural areas just don't have most of these attitudes today, at least not as aggressively, and in the cities your grandmothers won't have any idea who you're dating and won't care anyway until you present your partner in a long-term relationship, and most people born after ww2 won't stand for hardcore gender roles etc., there's some of that sometimes, but come on...
That pretty much corresponds with the views of Croatians I‘ve met, both when I was there and in other European countries (and Slovenians and Serbs as well, for that matter). While I love this channel, I always found it a bit strange that the comments about women from the former Yugoslavian republics and their gender relations are a bit stereotypical. But maybe it‘s because the interviewed persons grew up in North America, and the older values are often preserved longer in the diaspora than in their former home countries. So the Croatia they know about is probably indeed the one described to them by their grandparents.
Based on the North Macedonian girl's tattoos (I don't like tattoos), I thought I was gonna disagree with her the most, but she's actually quite agreeable. The Greek girl however... she just comes across as an insufferable liberal. I guess I should have expected this from the good people who brought us democracy... Though she does say that she doesn't represent the values of her country, which means Greece must be alright... whatever, the Croatian girl is my favorite.
why would you want to create drama? no appreciation for peace and love overflowing in the household,? I think people who need drama in their relationship is mentally a wilder beast, like no independent thinking. Also women/couples are willing to spend mony on restaurants to appreciate good food, why not appreciate having the skill for yourself rather than resisting being able to cook just because of some old school thinking: being able to cook brings you a lot of appreciation from many ppl
From my own perspective, Bulgarian chicks dig for drama as well. It would be wise for man to create some controllable little drama to prevent chance of a giant drama that will be comes from nowhere by her lady in future if he is any experienced with ladies.
I'm croatian and..you often put croatian people in these videos but they're not really croatian..they obviously don't live in croatia and maybe never have...i just think you should try to put someone truly original (like Emir is totally bosnian, we are similar in a lot of things- language, mentality...and he is wearing Mišo Kovač shirt ✨️)
@@lauryncovic9938 even balkan word is turkish word and you say turkey isnt balkan? all your food and culture is from turkey. you have good dishes thanks to turkey
Croats who live outside Croatia are still Croats. Just because they had to leave their homeland for a better life doesn’t make them any less “Croatian” Croats who live in USA stick to their roots, have families and homes in Croatia, visit every summer and speak the language as much as they can. The guy from Bosnia is a Bosnian-Croat Catholic from Livno and his name is Mate (distinctly Croatian name for Matthew) his name is NOT Emir. .
@@masterarmsim you guys seem very conservative like Latin America, not saying is a bad or a good thing but most Latin Americans would answer the questions similarly regarding dating and gender roles. Of course we are not the same and our cultures, cuisine and history are dramatically different. But I see a lot similarities regarding dating and family values
Some kids wrote below as Turkey doesnt belong to the Balkans. Now let me straight things up for you; - Over 12 million Turks live in Thracia region of Turkey alone. We are still the most populous ethnicity in Balkans. And i would happily add Bosniaks,Albanians,Pomaks,Gagauzes,Turk Balkan diaspora to this sum. - All the foods (börek,kebap,yoğurt,köfte)-drinks(raki)-deserts(baklava sütlaç) you proudly mentioned is brought to Balkans by Turks. Yes ,Original Bulgars were Turkic so they might have their own yoğurt recipe. Or Pecheneg,Cuman tribes settled in Balkans might have introduced some nomadic foods earlier but not that widespread. - Balkans get its name from the Balkan Mountains in Bulgaria which is named after the Balkan mountains in Turkmenistan because of the resemblance. Yes Ottoman Turkmens imposed the name of the peninsula. - Music,instruments and folk dance of the Balkans are heavily influenced by Turks with middle-eastern vibes. Balkan slavic music/dances has nothing to do with their Polish,Chech,Russian cousins but Turks. Same is true with Greece/Albania and South Italia (originally inhabited by greeks and albanians till antiquity) which were seperated only few miles apart by the Otronto strait. - Good portion of every Balkan language's vocabulary is imposed by Turkish. - As a conclusion ; Turks maybe not belongs to the Balkans only but Balkans definetely belongs to Turks. - One last thing , Why did you people start to loose your moral codes , family values ,traditions as soon as Otoman Empire collapsed? Why arent you culturally like your grandparents anymore? We still are.
1. man be the protector and provider Why suggest that without a man she cannot be successful? That she NEEDS a man? In real life, in a relationship any of them can be the protector and/or provider. 2. approval from family Do you choose your partner for your family or yourself? Who will live with him/her? You should choose who do you live with, not your family. It's YOUR life. 3. gender roles Why there are gender roles, in the first place? Who decided (and when) what are the gender roles? In a relationship there are two equal persons. Any and both of them are able to do anything. Nobody could name a household chore that only one gender capable of doing it. 4. drama and jealousy Why do you need any of that??? How on Earth do any of that make both of your lives better? It's like saying in a relationship you need tragedies and diseases. 5. man leads, assertive and dominant In a relationship there are two equal persons. Nobody (should) dominant or lead the other. 6. family and children before career Why can't people do the other way? Or choose career over family and children? Whose life is it? It's another suggestion that you MUST have family and children. In real life, many people can live without any (or both) of it. Have you noticed that many times however they stepped forward, actually disagree with it? But many times they are act that way because of their familes? And except #4 (drama and jelousy) all the others are backward-looking ideas? Old fashioned, outdated and not progressive. The only reason why they are still here is because for thousands of years on, men have been enjoying the benefits of it and been oppressing women, and there are still areas of the world where it's been forced to people act (and think) that way.
@@bobbyolsson7956well if you keep changing your ethnicity’s name it’s natural that people would be confused. To my parents and grandparents you were Bulgarians
@@bobbyolsson7956 Without all due respect but of course it's not like this. South is the Greek region of Macedonia and thry are Greeks. East is thr Bulgarian region of Macedonia (this tiny part) and the people there are Bulgarians. So don't come here trying to change thr nationality of all other people ebo have been there with these nationalities for centuries while this distinct "Macedonian" ethnicity is actually from the 20th century onwards. Wr all accept you as hou are but please keep it real and keep it respectful.
Croatia is NOT fully Balkan. As a matter of fact most of it historically couldn’t be considered as part of the Balkan culture realm. Lots of this Balkan culture came into Dalmatia after the founding of Yugoslavia in the last 60 years, things such as Burek, Čevape etc were only introduced into coastal Croatia in the 1950s. My family never knew what a cevap or burek was until they moved to America and saw other Croatians who were from Bosnia, Lika or Zagora(Inland Dalmatia) were eating it. The regions around Zagreb are distinctly Central European in vibe, culture and food. The Dalmatian coast & Istria have a Mediterranean culture, cuisine & temperament. Slavonia region has a mix of Balkan and Hungarian & German influences. Inland Dalmatia & Lika we’re part of Ottoman Empire so there is a definite Balkan-Ottoman-Mediterranean vibe in the culture, food, language and temperament. My family is from the Croatian islands, so honestly culturally I feel closer to Greek & Italian culture more than Balkan or Central European. Dalmatia & Istria we’re part of the Venetian empire for hundreds of years as were some parts of Greece which connected us to the Mediterranean World more so than with the Balkans behind the mountains due to difficult terrain & isolation. Dalmatia always had more cultural exchange with the Mediterranean world and less so with the Balkans, although of course there was trade and movement into the Balkans, but we were part of the Mediterranean Italo-Greco world. Think ancient Olive groves, fish, Mediterranean climate & architecture, terra-cotta roofs, village fiestas, siestas, fishing villages, sheep, men playing passionate games of cards on the seafront cafes, tomatoes, wine, old school grandmas, funny & friendly locals who scream and are very passionate and temperamental. God, family, the sea and good food & wine are a Croatian islander’s true virtues. This is the culture of the Dalmatian coast and islands of Croatia. Far from Balkan! The only thing that Croats from different regions have in common with our Croatian brothers is similar dialects/languages, our Roman Catholic religion & our ancestral ethnic Croat roots. Culturally we are crazy diverse!
This is accurate. The north of the country has pretty different weather despite a similar climate, since it is not mediterranean at all. A whole 30 days in a row in a year could be nothing but gloominess and darkness, especially around March, and the north and the south generally don't share a lot of common traits. The capital area falls within the more westernized category, so more having in common with the north.
@@DoingSnuffForSerbianGlorybruh italians are 1,60m short Brown Piccolinis who look excacrly like bangladeshis😂😂😂😂😂😂How they can call anyone subhuman 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Im dying 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
My god, I have trauma now, I've barely forgot how they make me marry my wife. Entire family decided and organized everything, only person who asked me was I sure was my priest during confession before marriage, He knew me most of my life and tried to save me. He failed. We even have a saying when somebody scams you : oženio me :P
I'm from Croatia (born, raised and to this day living in my country) and I can switch from thick American to British and then Australian accent with no problem😉
Balkans is human garbage . Full of loudly choleric conflictual stuff at every corner, everything is done with stress, every minor aspect is done with stress. And I m from there
Turkey is awesome, it's language especially. My Turkish friend married my aunty, and he has a beautiful Turkish daughter, so my plan is to learn Türkçe and approach her with flowers. I don't approach women, I have so many female friends, but I'd like to befriend her as she always stares, I want to invite her to sit with me.
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Living in Croatia now I'm shocked how soon People have children here. Same in the city and in the villages, you met someone younger than you (I mean 20/25 or sth) and they would propably be parents already.
??? What, who, where do you live, what do those people do? I live in Zagreb and large majority of my friends at least went to some college and in mid-30s don't have children, even if they would like to have them one day (including me), like in most of developed world, just of a big series on millennial angst... When I go to my cousins in the countryside people there also mostly have children after 25-30, maybe they start a bit younger, but at 20? Maybe 20-30 years ago. And almost no one younger than 50 has more than 2 children.
@@YourD3estinY where did I Say that all of them have children? The one I met are very Young, but I have a lot of friends or members of my new family that are chlidless. We live in a City and I'm working with Kids So have different view on the subject.
I am talking to a Serbian woman 🇷🇸 she has said all this. YES: man's duty is to protect and provide. She will be a housewife. Well I own a ranch, I raise cattle, break horses, real man's work. I want a family so I'll take a Balkan wife.
Don't expect balkan women to be obidient or submissive. They will tame you not the other way round lol. I think yes they love cooking and doing all the stuff in the house but they wont play second to anyone. They are loyal i think but i think also they love money. So if you do not have money you do not stand a chance. A good name and a place in society it s important for them.
@@antek-vj5ey women are submissive to men they like, I have experience. I don't care about money, unlike American women these days. Women like strong capable men - that's what I know. I dated a Turkish woman, I know Balkan women don't mess around. Come on dude, give a man hope. I'm only 22yo traditional man in a world of liberated women 😔
Enjoyable and real. Marina you are a "Slavic Girl" why you not have 12 babies yet. Приємно і по-справжньому. Марина ти "слов'янка" чому у тебе ще немає 12 діточок. Приятно и по-настоящему. Марина ты "славянка" почему у тебя еще нет 12 деток. Agréable et réel. Marina tu es une "Slavic Girl" pourquoi tu n'as pas encore 12 bébés.
No offence, Firstly,since when Turks are from the Balkans? Secondly,Greeks too.. And third Balkan was a term created by westerners in a pejorative sense meaning a bunch of countries that are one salad to their eyes. No nation nothing… Also the maybe Turks were ruling the balkans but it was never their land,they never belonged there. It’s just an area with nice neighbours with a lot in common but please don’t use this “Balkan”term
The name of Balkan/Rumelia was given by the Turks, not by the westerners. Turkish thrace is part of Balkans too. If he is from there it makes sense, otherwise i don't think it makes sense too since most of the Turkey isn't in Balkans. Greeks(along with the Albanians) are the original Balkaners, how can they not be part of this video? With your logic, Macedonians, Serbians, Bulgarians, Croatians etc are not balkaners either, they are slavic settlers. If you look at the culture and history of these nations, you would understand why there is a common name for this geography.
I like a lot this series!! Sending much love to other fellow balkan countries
The Turkish dude is very charismatic.
i am turkish i am very charismatic too no problem mary me
He is a western, Greek-looking, Turk. That is why. Most Turks don't look like that. There is a reason why in Turkish media, series, films they select Greek-looking actors to play the protagonist roles.
@@Fokas-n8tDo you think every handsome man or beautiful woman looks Greek?
@@OdaSakunosuke-k2z Silly question trying to avoid the evident fact of life I mentioned above. No, silly, not every handsome man looks Greek. And no, silly, I did not refer to Greek women. So why do you feel the need to distort so horribly what I said above in a typical strawman fashion? I will tell you why: because you know what I say above it true.
Turks are a nation made up by all islamified turkified populations of Minor Asia, Middle East and Balkans. Among them Greeks of course. Some 10% of modern Turks derive their genetics predominantly from Greek populations while there are another 10% Anatolian Turks who derive their genetics predominantly from indigenous extinct anatolian ethnicities such as Lydians, Phrygians, Lycians, Carians - who of course were genetically very close to Greeks hence sported too Greek phenotypes. Overall, whatever their genetics are, about 20% of Turks have Greek-like features.
However the majority of Turks clearly don't have Greek phenotypes. They may have eastern Anatolian ones, Middle Eastern, Caucasian, even Slavic (Balkan or Ukrainian like). And of course still a 10% of Turks sport intense Turkomongolic features (throughout Turkey but especially people down there in Antalya region, surrounding Cemer - see how well I know Turkey, silly?) while a large number of Turkish population (up to 25%) have partial Mongolic features which we often see in Turkish politicians (Menderes, Ozal, Erbakan etc. - see how well I know you Turks, silly?).
It goes without saying that good looking people may arise from any of these genetically diverse populations. However, Turkish media has cultivated a mono-culture of male A-role protagonist actors who are all almost exclusively of Greek-like appearance. No Turkomongols are sold as A-role actors. And hardly any Middle Eastern faces like the millions of them we see throughout Turkey. It is Greek-like men only, like this man here who is supposed to be charismatic because why? Because he looks like a Greek. Sounds like a joke, and it would be a joke if it was not the sad reality for Turks. Turks maybe proud of themselves but deep down they hate themselves and they try to portray them as... Greeks.
But that is for the men. The women, anything goes. Contrary to A-role male actors who are Greek-like, the A-role female actors in Turkey are not all Greek-like, in fact they are more representative of Turkey's varied genetics. The fascination with Greek looks thus is restricted to men only, not to women.
Whether that is a complex of inferiority of Turkish men who wish to appear as more Greek or the fascination of Turkish women with Greek men, one thing is for sure : that in Turkey, the Greek phenotype is automatically placed at the societal top even in spite of the fact that traditionally in Turkey the Turkomongolic people still hold considerable power being over-represented in politics and institutions.
@@Fokas-n8tTurks carry Anatolian, Central Asian and Balkan genes. Middle Eastern types are generally Syrian refugees and Kurds. I don't know what you mean by Greek type. Why is the possibility that Greeks also carry Turkish genes in their people ignored? Today, no race is 100% pure. Am I to conclude from the monotonous Greek stereotype in the mind of a fool that the Turks want to be like the Greeks, when the people of both cultures are so diverse and similar? If I were to give examples of famous Turkish actors, Barış Arduç, Çağlar Ertuğrul, Kerem Bürsin, Murat Yıldırım, Ozan Dolunay, Birkan Sokullu, Mert Fırat, Onur Seyit Yaran... they are all typical Turkish men.
"When I was your age..." omg so true!! those stories are the most annoying to hear but you hear them as long as you live with your parents :)
Been loving all these balkan videos! Purchased a few rakija t-shirts as well, great job team!
Woo!!! 🙌
It's Alexandra 😍! Its been a while since I have seen her appearing in RUclips videos. Happy Thursday, Marina! 🥂
Has she gotten bigger?
The guy with the hat is such a balkan type 😂 One of those who spends the day in front of the "block" or under his car
Loved that line "I don't need you to protect me , but it's really nice when you care about me" I liked how they all stepped forward
That's because you are not Balkan.
This whole video is sooo unbelievably on point. 🇧🇬 is represented to an absolute T, without even being there.
Also, the croatian girl is 🔥
Guys, you are doing good stuff. They all have different personalities which is nice for format but they all slightly insecure while behaving as a group. I suggest you to make those people know better about each other and more relaxed and then they will become their best which will be good for getting popular of them, the channel and the balkan culture. Also, the Turkish and Croat/Bosnian dude has a bromance potential :).
@@gjergjkastriotiskanderbeg2645 it is .
Croatian girl is so beautiful!
She is gorgeous❤️😍
I crossed paths with her before. Complete gem of a human.
@@BIGNEM2 wow really??
she look sicilian not croatian
Dalmatinka ❤
12:34 I love how the Bosnian and the Croation got what the Macedonian said! Their languages are all very similar, it is so cute!!
It's the same language. Macedonian is slightly diff but 90% the same as Serbo-Croatian
@@BIGNEM2 Haha so not true. 🙂 It's like Portuguese and Spanish; or Danish and Swedish.
@@BIGNEM2 no such thing buddy. There is Croatian and there is Serbian. Try translating state documents from Croatian into Serbian and you are going to have a hard time. Yes we understand each other, but that is not the unique criteria to determine if it's the same language. The more complex the subject of the conversation is, the more do Croatian and Serbian differ. In this video Croatian language was spoken.
@@BIGNEM2 Macedonian is 90% similar to Bulgarian, making it very different to Croatian and Serbian. Some even argue that its a Bulgarian dialect... As a Croat I can understand maybe 30% (or less) of Macedonian. Lovely people tho, very hospitable.
Used to be one country before no?! Yugoslavia if you did not know...of course they understand each other...they are different but mostly the same! Basic knowledge my man of geography!!!
I like how the guys went back when the question was personally , not even them agree with gender role
As a Croatian, I have to say that even my Croatian friends tell me I'm too blunt. That part about assertiveness is absolutely true. I comfortably directly hit on women in the middle of the day in front of a few friends, and I have no problem hitting on her friend a few days later if she rejects, but at the same time we're very monogamous. I like that I can do that.
That is pretty common for Bulgarian men as well but if you are not good looking dude women will ticket you as pervert tho.
@@masterarmsim yeah, I don't care about that tbh
Uphill on the way there, uphill on the way back. I'm Croatian and this is so true.
Love being Balkan , I had such a good time whatching this video , Thank you Marina 😍😍
Love the videos coming out recently! Well done!
Emir abimin karizması 10/10
Great video ❤ Thank you Marina
Love this format. Aleays makes me laugh.
Awesome video, keep making more videos like this
Emir is so cute.
He damn well isn't
Turkish man😮
He is
he ain't turkish
@@supermavro6072 is he from singapore ??
I think my issue with this protector mentality is that it's expected he protects you but not the other way around. Can't we both just protect each other?
Who said it's not the other way round? Those are just different kinds of protection: I protect home - do the cleaning, the washing, the cooking, the comfort, I raise kids.. You protect us with your confidence that everything is going to be fine as we women tend to overdo with emotions. I will appreciate it if you protect us financially and physically against the hardships of the world. Balcan and other Slav women work getting at least the same, often higher salaries. So there just should be something they would rather not do themselves - carry heavy shopping bags, open grand doors, fix something at home or not pay at a restaurant. Women of these cultures usually do much more than men, thus at least some manhood is expected.
@@nataliasolita8152 I just don't see why things need to be gender specific.
I don't see how being financially secure is a manhood thing. It implies its only for men when really its again not gender specific. Most things are not.
I mean, you do you, I just personally don't see it as something that is a "should"
@@silveryfeather208 it was not about personal opinions, but cultural issues
@@nataliasolita8152 I'm well aware they are simply speaking about what their culture says. But frankly, even with my own cultures (Chinese and Canadian) I don't quite get it. There's nothing he can protect me from that I can't do. In Canada often, it's a knife attack or a gun. It makes no difference unless he knows martial arts. I know a bit too. But in the end neither of us can fend of a gun shot. So... I don't see why we still have the culture that the man must protect. Protect from what?
@@silveryfeather208 I think you have just one meaning of protection on your mind - physical ptotection against enemies. As I mentioned earlier, there are other types too and the one you are thinking of was not even among the ones that were on mine.
Bosnian dude looks like such a likeable person. He seems to be the ideal person u want to chill and drink rakija (or raki as we call it) with the appropriate meze and chat about everything and nothing at the same time.
Alexandra also needs to update her perception of Greek views on dating:
- Needing the approval to even start a relationship? Absolutely not happening for quite some time now. Only for marriage and only in villages. There might be some subtle influencing from a relative for the person u date but only in extreme cases will they prevent u from marrying let alone dating anyone. We are nothing like the old Greek movies.
- Younger generations don't really follow the traditional gender roles anymore. Only the older ones do so. Even if they wanted to most salaries are not sufficient to provide for the house especially if there are kids included.
- Women having kids comes before having a career? I knew this was way off so i googled it. Average age of a Greek woman to have her first kid varies (depending on the source ofc) between 30,6 to 31,2. The latter btw is the world's oldest average age for first kid.
Greeks are completely different and I don t know why they are considered Balkanic about mentality, traditions or whatever.
@@cuorenerazzurro1661 Agreed, Greeks are more Southern European Mediterranean rather than Balkan in culture and mentality. A little Balkan but much more Southern in my opinion.
@@Alexs.2599 similar to south Italians, maybe northern Greeks may be considered somehow Balkans by culture or even appearance for some of them but central and southern Greeks look even more like Lebanese rather than other Balkan countries
@@cuorenerazzurro1661 Agreed, I would say though some Christian Lebanese people can look similar to certain Greeks. Greeks look like Greeks first. Than I would say similar to Southern Italians, maybe a little bit central Italian looking possibly. Than our neighbors: Southern Albanians, some Bulgarians. Than you have some Greeks that can pass as pan European. There are some Greeks that can even pass for Iberian. The more western looking Greeks. There are some Turks, especially from western Turkey, that can look similar to Greeks. We're basically a Southern South Eastern European people.
@@Alexs.2599 Spain, Southern Italy, Greece and Western Turkey has southern European vibes but I won't say Greece is more Southern European than Balkan.
12:36 the last guy looked so shocked 😂
How did you find these girls speaking fluent English? I guess they're living in the US for a long while. Also their general personality/vibe is reminding me more of an American girl than a Croatian/Macedonian (I met quite a few of them).
God, where are you from, 🙄 whole ex Yugoslav area is very good in foreign languages and particularly in English.
I was fluent in English when I was 15. I'm 30 now. School is tough over here, you know. 😒😒😒
I'm glad you're fluent in English! However I've never met anyone who speaks a foreign language without any accent and has not lived extensively amongst native people. School won't teach you that level no matter how tough it is...
@@zpruzsinszki it depends on a teacher, how long have you been exposed to content in English (most of our TV programme is heavily imported from anglosphere) and from what is your native dialect.
However, I will argue there is a factor that beats them all, which may surprise you. :/ I can talk without foreign sounding accent, but as I was spending extensive amount of time talking with foreigners, I realised why my university teachers, some of which completed their PhD-s in Oxford and Cambridge, had a very, very hard accent when they would be speaking English while hosting foreign guest teachers (they absolutely didn't need them, they spoke more than 4 languages some of which had distinct accents and they were great in them). Only then I realised why they were "allowing" themselves to do this (only when it comes to English). Well, the thing is, a typical southern slavic person *can* imitate accents, pronunciations etc very easily, since we have a variety of accents and dialects on very small area and it's fun to imitate them growing up - especially for a speaker of official dialect Croatian and official dialect Serbian ones, because they are very flat and can be coloured into anything. But... When it comes to languages like English or Dutch or whatever language has that sound (r pronounced in English pronunciation) and the gluttal stop... It just tires us down. After a while it literally starts feeling like you're choking. My throat hurt only after an hour first time I spoke with my Canadian colleague in neutral sounding English. But it really starts to be bothersome after a while, when this experience repeats. I found that after that point, I often can't relax because I'm losing breath because throat is literally in pain. Ask any southern slavic who had experience of lengthy talk in English. It just feels like choking. We have r that rolls and that carries a lot of sound on "it's wings", and the sounds are very clear, which makes it possible to talk very fast. (draw into memory typical Russian talk) Although I can talk fast in English, it's nowhere as efficient as when I disregard intention to sound neutral. In this sense, it's really wiser to just quit that and just talk with stresses or accents like we're used to do in our own language. It's faster, it doesn't slow down the thoughts, it's more efficient, and most importantly, unlike in many languages where length of a vowel may change entire meaning of the word (including in our languages) - it's still perfectly understandable. So chances are, those people you met were capable to do neutral accent and pronunciation, maybe even mastered British accent (like one of my teachers who had degree from Oxford) - they just didn't feel like doing it. I think these people in the video spoke as they did because some of the following : - it wasn't a long time that they spent talking so they could show their best
- they found a way how to talk for long without burning their throat because it became a life saving skill in new environment and they wanted to present themselves as respectful to the environment by not twisting the sounds, when they already are able to do it right ...
In general, southern slavs are most adaptable immigrants, including in picking up foreign accents, even among the slavic branches. Eastern slavic, for example, have melodic accents and some sounds which are not clear, so it's much harder for them to do the same. Western slavic are better at it but lesser number of people speak English well there than in the touristy Balkans, where German and English education starts at age 6. 🤷
Paula can definitely tell me what to do anytime
It's actually crazy how diverse Toronto is. There's every single ethnicity there.
I loooove this!
The albanian and Serbian were outside scrapping when they made this vid
As a Croatian guy (Southern Croatia) , I don't relate myself and my family traditions at all to this new, over-simplified and romantic picture of the 'Balkan' culture shown in this RUclips series. I am afraid that my opinion will be unpopular one. I don't say this does not exist, it's just one face, and just one face, a one dimension of Balkan that is lately becoming more popular and more suitable for generalization, and thus more acceptable for the new Western tastes trying to replace the old stereotypes. In the past Balkan was seen almost exclusively as a primitive, wild, uncivilized, mountainous backwater of Europe. Nowadays, the Balkan becomes a land of beautiful, authentic family ties and pastoral traditions, a land of warm, kind, loyal and empathetic, but strong, energetic and brave men and women eating grilled meat and drinking rakija that, after the wars, discover mutual similarities and become best friends....so many new stereotypes are trying to be created. Balkan is much more diverse in terms of culture and traditions, food, language, religion and music. In Croatia we are very much aware of that and because of that we experience an everlasting national identity crisis and a a lot of misunderstanding between our own people, not to mention between our closest Balkan neighbors. There is a many beautiful things about the mix of cultures and traditions in the Balkans. In some of those cultures, alcohol brings out good emotions and good vibes...it's connecting people. But too much alcohol sometimes brings out dark and violent forces buried within one-selves, within the families, within the neighbors, within the regions of the same country, and between different nations and countries....these dark forces won't go away just like that
I have to add that I don't drink rakija and other alcohol drinks at all. I have a big family and, while growing up, I never saw any of them drunk even tho my grandpa had a big vineyard and was producing his own vine.
The akward moment when you read Alexandras t-shirt...
Meanwhile...no one is sitting😆
that 7 km walking to school story from your parents also works in Bangladesh. 😑😑😑😑
The Bosnian 🇧🇦 guy would be pretty cute if he got rid of his goatee 😂 hehe
Ahahahahaha it's my trademark 😂
He is an ethnic Croat from Bosnia (Livno is a majority Croatian town in Bosnia-Herz) He is a Roman Catholic Croat from Bosnia with Croatian & Bosnia Citizenship. Croats are one of the 3 constitutive ethnic groups of Bosnia. If you notice above his name Mate (Catholic Croat name) it shows a Croatian and Bosnian flag.
@@rokopetrovich5406 protect goatees at all cost!! If a manly Balkan lad can not nail a goatee, who would?? It's just perfect on you!
I said like 7 years ago that i'd date the Greek girl, and she's still as pretty as always
i love how they all come forward together for the gender role questions 😂😂
That Croatian girl Damn!!!!
As a Greek my self I don't really feel familiar with the Balkans
Most Greeks don't, but people tell us that we should...so 🤷🏻♂️ why kot
@@vanmars5718 No matter what other people say, we must separate ourselves from the Balkans 😉
@@salmarcano4057 I don't want to separate myself from the other people of the Balkans, I just haven't been grown up feeling a particular connection per se while recognizing the similarities.
Idk maybe that's because Balkans were closed up due to communism, so today it's more easy to reconnect.
@@vanmars5718 I grew up the same I mostly feel familiar with Italy, Slain, Portugal, Cyprus and France
We are both Balcanic and Mediterranean actually
"when I was your age" or rather "In my times" is the most balkan thing elders would say to young
Alexandra was our first crush from previous videos, now it's Paula. 🤣
Also that behaviour that they describe has a lot to do with gender historical roles and religion. No judgement though.
She's my crush too 💯
With me it's always been Paula.
Still Alexandra for me
I thought Greeks were only gays, well they lesbian too. Interesting
In Balkans when it comes to dating/marrying, the worst is the family (your parents, siblings, relatives and even friends), they will kick your arse to get married ASAP but are still extremly PICKY especially when it comes to age difference, if you are 25 and want to marry a guy 40 (who is super handsome, athletic, has stable economy/job, never had a relationship and all that, you wont ever find a 25 year old guy like this!) they will go against it despite not knowing the guy and not even want to know the guy and refuse to see how that guy is better for your daughter.... "Nah, just marry that 25 year old burger switching farmer here, its a good boy, we know his family".... i hate this about Balkans..... so if you marry the other guy anyways you are basically ending the relationship with your parents etc.
Then end the relationship. I grew up in a Serbian abusive home. I have no contact with them today.
Based Emir
Same
You are so Goofy! 🤡🤣
It’s funny how they claim to agree on so much yet they hate each other jfl
Turkish guy you have a lover here in Germany Cologne. ❤
Alexandria is back👀
I got the impression in bosnia, albania and macedonia they are more conservative. While girls in romania and bulgaria are more open and liberal ;)
North Macedonia*
"North" or not "North", it's still Macedonia, and you still have to write the name Macedonia. So I can go buy you some tissues if you. want to cry
Im a Turk . I've lived in Romania for 6 months. I've been to Bulgaria and Serbia as well. I was 23 at that time.From my personal experience, I gotta say Bosnia and Albania have the most conservative marriage focused women. Most of the women that I met in Romania were westernized liberal women, Although there are so many conservative woman that I met but they were older than me. I met one Albanian and she was very very conservative family oriented. Greek adn Turkish women that I met in Romania also very westernized and liberal. But they carry their roots and their culture. so it was a eye opening for me to see the other cultures :)
Hmm…tbh I think that parental pressure about kids and marriage might be universal. 😅 I’m American and we hear it too, though probably not as intensely? I’m not sure, but it feels annoying and stressful to hear regardless lol. Also, that girls “drama strut” was hilarious 🤣
I like Mate's shirt
Is that Miso?
Balkan is a Türk word
Cool 🎉
The greek girl being so shady with the north macedonian on "do they though?" at 10:19
It's because we fucking kill each other every 30 years
Alexandra!! 😍
By the way, this Turkish guy is gorgeous
g🌈a🌈y🌈g🏳🌈a🏳🌈y
@@supermavro6072 😆
Seems that Constantine wouldn't mind an Ottoman invasion :p Yesss, empress! Good taste there ;)
@@CrowleasYour first 2 videos explain a lot 😁
I'm sorry to be so blunt (even though this video generally says "we" are "always blunt"), but as a person from an urban environment in Croatia, I must say the "Croatian" girl (how many generations in diaspora removed from contemporary Croatia?) describes people who would be described as "seljačina" where I live. Google it. This is Croatia her grandparents that moved across the ocean remembered, not real Croatia where people today have as few children as late and with as many divorces as basically any western country, and where women are managers (in all of my job until now most of my bosses were women lol) and politicians (even the last president). Anyway she's describing rural areas 50 years ago, but basically, even people who live in rural areas just don't have most of these attitudes today, at least not as aggressively, and in the cities your grandmothers won't have any idea who you're dating and won't care anyway until you present your partner in a long-term relationship, and most people born after ww2 won't stand for hardcore gender roles etc., there's some of that sometimes, but come on...
Right. I've never heard of anyone having kids at an age before 31.
@@distar7471 that's way too late
@@Србомбоница86no, it's not. More like too early
That pretty much corresponds with the views of Croatians I‘ve met, both when I was there and in other European countries (and Slovenians and Serbs as well, for that matter). While I love this channel, I always found it a bit strange that the comments about women from the former Yugoslavian republics and their gender relations are a bit stereotypical. But maybe it‘s because the interviewed persons grew up in North America, and the older values are often preserved longer in the diaspora than in their former home countries. So the Croatia they know about is probably indeed the one described to them by their grandparents.
Where are Bulgaria and Romania? We are Balkans too...
That Croatian woman in the blue 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Based on the North Macedonian girl's tattoos (I don't like tattoos), I thought I was gonna disagree with her the most, but she's actually quite agreeable. The Greek girl however... she just comes across as an insufferable liberal. I guess I should have expected this from the good people who brought us democracy... Though she does say that she doesn't represent the values of her country, which means Greece must be alright... whatever, the Croatian girl is my favorite.
Where is Serbia in all of this? 😮
why would you want to create drama? no appreciation for peace and love overflowing in the household,? I think people who need drama in their relationship is mentally a wilder beast, like no independent thinking. Also women/couples are willing to spend mony on restaurants to appreciate good food, why not appreciate having the skill for yourself rather than resisting being able to cook just because of some old school thinking: being able to cook brings you a lot of appreciation from many ppl
From my own perspective, Bulgarian chicks dig for drama as well. It would be wise for man to create some controllable little drama to prevent chance of a giant drama that will be comes from nowhere by her lady in future if he is any experienced with ladies.
Women like drama, they need that emotional roller coaster. It's backwards logic, but it keeps the relationship interesting.
I'm croatian and..you often put croatian people in these videos but they're not really croatian..they obviously don't live in croatia and maybe never have...i just think you should try to put someone truly original (like Emir is totally bosnian, we are similar in a lot of things- language, mentality...and he is wearing Mišo Kovač shirt ✨️)
Also- we don't consider Turkey as Balkan...
I’ve lived in the country, am there every 6-8 months, and speak fluently. 😊
@@lauryncovic9938 Hell, Turkey is not even European either.
@@lauryncovic9938 even balkan word is turkish word and you say turkey isnt balkan? all your food and culture is from turkey. you have good dishes thanks to turkey
Croats who live outside Croatia are still Croats. Just because they had to leave their homeland for a better life doesn’t make them any less “Croatian” Croats who live in USA stick to their roots, have families and homes in Croatia, visit every summer and speak the language as much as they can. The guy from Bosnia is a Bosnian-Croat Catholic from Livno and his name is Mate (distinctly Croatian name for Matthew) his name is NOT Emir.
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the balkans and Latin America seem very similar culturally
some points. but not at all.
In terms of warcrimes and genocides, yeah, kinda. But overall, i won't say we are that similar.
Yes. Both regions were assimilated by big empires at some point. Also, religion.
Not really. We are europeans. You are amerindians
@@masterarmsim you guys seem very conservative like Latin America, not saying is a bad or a good thing but most Latin Americans would answer the questions similarly regarding dating and gender roles.
Of course we are not the same and our cultures, cuisine and history are dramatically different. But I see a lot similarities regarding dating and family values
Some kids wrote below as Turkey doesnt belong to the Balkans. Now let me straight things up for you;
- Over 12 million Turks live in Thracia region of Turkey alone. We are still the most populous ethnicity in Balkans. And i would happily add Bosniaks,Albanians,Pomaks,Gagauzes,Turk Balkan diaspora to this sum.
- All the foods (börek,kebap,yoğurt,köfte)-drinks(raki)-deserts(baklava sütlaç) you proudly mentioned is brought to Balkans by Turks. Yes ,Original Bulgars were Turkic so they might have their own yoğurt recipe. Or Pecheneg,Cuman tribes settled in Balkans might have introduced some nomadic foods earlier but not that widespread.
- Balkans get its name from the Balkan Mountains in Bulgaria which is named after the Balkan mountains in Turkmenistan because of the resemblance. Yes Ottoman Turkmens imposed the name of the peninsula.
- Music,instruments and folk dance of the Balkans are heavily influenced by Turks with middle-eastern vibes. Balkan slavic music/dances has nothing to do with their Polish,Chech,Russian cousins but Turks. Same is true with Greece/Albania and South Italia (originally inhabited by greeks and albanians till antiquity) which were seperated only few miles apart by the Otronto strait.
- Good portion of every Balkan language's vocabulary is imposed by Turkish.
- As a conclusion ; Turks maybe not belongs to the Balkans only but Balkans definetely belongs to Turks.
- One last thing , Why did you people start to loose your moral codes , family values ,traditions as soon as Otoman Empire collapsed? Why arent you culturally like your grandparents anymore? We still are.
I need to get that rakia shirt.
They really said "now let's do one without the gypsies"
This family into dating...sooooo much either friends or family 😂
1. man be the protector and provider
Why suggest that without a man she cannot be successful? That she NEEDS a man?
In real life, in a relationship any of them can be the protector and/or provider.
2. approval from family
Do you choose your partner for your family or yourself? Who will live with him/her?
You should choose who do you live with, not your family. It's YOUR life.
3. gender roles
Why there are gender roles, in the first place? Who decided (and when) what are the gender roles?
In a relationship there are two equal persons. Any and both of them are able to do anything. Nobody could name a household chore that only one gender capable of doing it.
4. drama and jealousy
Why do you need any of that??? How on Earth do any of that make both of your lives better?
It's like saying in a relationship you need tragedies and diseases.
5. man leads, assertive and dominant
In a relationship there are two equal persons. Nobody (should) dominant or lead the other.
6. family and children before career
Why can't people do the other way? Or choose career over family and children? Whose life is it?
It's another suggestion that you MUST have family and children. In real life, many people can live without any (or both) of it.
Have you noticed that many times however they stepped forward, actually disagree with it? But many times they are act that way because of their familes?
And except #4 (drama and jelousy) all the others are backward-looking ideas? Old fashioned, outdated and not progressive. The only reason why they are still here is because for thousands of years on, men have been enjoying the benefits of it and been oppressing women, and there are still areas of the world where it's been forced to people act (and think) that way.
A gteat combo of Slavic And Mediterannean as well as Dinaric, Armenoid, And Atlanto Med together.
What?
@@masterarmsim He's referring to Phenotypes.
Please explain and get into the details.
non look dinar, they all look mixed race to me
mediterranean my balls
You make great videos….Alex🇬🇷
North Macedonian girl has so much fun haha ❤️ must be great as a company
There are Macedonian people, Macedonian nation, Macedonian ethnicity.
South, North, East, West, doesn't matter. They're Macedonian.
@@bobbyolsson7956 No.
@@bobbyolsson7956well if you keep changing your ethnicity’s name it’s natural that people would be confused. To my parents and grandparents you were Bulgarians
@@bobbyolsson7956 Without all due respect but of course it's not like this. South is the Greek region of Macedonia and thry are Greeks. East is thr Bulgarian region of Macedonia (this tiny part) and the people there are Bulgarians. So don't come here trying to change thr nationality of all other people ebo have been there with these nationalities for centuries while this distinct "Macedonian" ethnicity is actually from the 20th century onwards. Wr all accept you as hou are but please keep it real and keep it respectful.
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Bosanac je lik (bosnia guy is interesting person)
Croatia is NOT fully Balkan. As a matter of fact most of it historically couldn’t be considered as part of the Balkan culture realm. Lots of this Balkan culture came into Dalmatia after the founding of Yugoslavia in the last 60 years, things such as Burek, Čevape etc were only introduced into coastal Croatia in the 1950s. My family never knew what a cevap or burek was until they moved to America and saw other Croatians who were from Bosnia, Lika or Zagora(Inland Dalmatia) were eating it. The regions around Zagreb are distinctly Central European in vibe, culture and food. The Dalmatian coast & Istria have a Mediterranean culture, cuisine & temperament. Slavonia region has a mix of Balkan and Hungarian & German influences. Inland Dalmatia & Lika we’re part of Ottoman Empire so there is a definite Balkan-Ottoman-Mediterranean vibe in the culture, food, language and temperament. My family is from the Croatian islands, so honestly culturally I feel closer to Greek & Italian culture more than Balkan or Central European. Dalmatia & Istria we’re part of the Venetian empire for hundreds of years as were some parts of Greece which connected us to the Mediterranean World more so than with the Balkans behind the mountains due to difficult terrain & isolation. Dalmatia always had more cultural exchange with the Mediterranean world and less so with the Balkans, although of course there was trade and movement into the Balkans, but we were part of the Mediterranean Italo-Greco world. Think ancient Olive groves, fish, Mediterranean climate & architecture, terra-cotta roofs, village fiestas, siestas, fishing villages, sheep, men playing passionate games of cards on the seafront cafes, tomatoes, wine, old school grandmas, funny & friendly locals who scream and are very passionate and temperamental. God, family, the sea and good food & wine are a Croatian islander’s true virtues. This is the culture of the Dalmatian coast and islands of Croatia. Far from Balkan! The only thing that Croats from different regions have in common with our Croatian brothers is similar dialects/languages, our Roman Catholic religion & our ancestral ethnic Croat roots. Culturally we are crazy diverse!
This is accurate. The north of the country has pretty different weather despite a similar climate, since it is not mediterranean at all. A whole 30 days in a row in a year could be nothing but gloominess and darkness, especially around March, and the north and the south generally don't share a lot of common traits. The capital area falls within the more westernized category, so more having in common with the north.
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Dalmatia was vencian/italian colony. They were slavized in later times
Whats even Balkan for you guys ? Its a diverse region thats what it is so you're not right. Croatia is Balkans, Turkey isnt.
@@supermavro6072As i said that doesnt make it any less Balkan, italian and roman influence is part of the Balkans for centuries.
The Croatian girl is gorgeous 😍, is she single??.
My god, I have trauma now, I've barely forgot how they make me marry my wife. Entire family decided and organized everything, only person who asked me was I sure was my priest during confession before marriage, He knew me most of my life and tried to save me. He failed. We even have a saying when somebody scams you : oženio me :P
Men will always be the protector and provider 💪
@shangyang6808 I respect you, but my wife is a housewife. I was raised in a patriarchal family too.
No, absolutely fucking not
I love my wife and daughter♥ I feel very manly
👏 👏 bc women and male relationships can never be 50/50
Exactly. A man who refuses to do that is abnormal
Are these ladies from the Balkans? Why do they have Western accents? You might get differing viewpoints by bringing on women from those countries.
I think a few of them are diasporan, not directly from those countries.
@@Alexs.2599 Exactly and even probably disconnected diasporans.
@@masterarmsim Yeah I agree.
I'm from Croatia (born, raised and to this day living in my country) and I can switch from thick American to British and then Australian accent with no problem😉
@@eed1228 Hahaha yes, but I think three of the ladies were probably born or maybe raised in North America.
I need a Turkish man. :(
I’m here😂
Go to Turkey
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When I saw the sentence 'Do Balkans agree'
NO
7:23 Turkish boy should move ahead at this point (approved by a Turkish girl)
No Bulgarians ?
i think all mediterranean countries have all of that in common .
emir abim ne yakisikli adammisin be bizi sahane temsil ediyorsun hll spr dvm
It seems like the general consensus is Traditional Man = Good / Tradtitional Woman = Bad.
Croatian women are gorgeous 😍
These are Latin woman not slavs
Balkans is human garbage . Full of loudly choleric conflictual stuff at every corner, everything is done with stress, every minor aspect is done with stress. And I m from there
Turkey is awesome, it's language especially. My Turkish friend married my aunty, and he has a beautiful Turkish daughter, so my plan is to learn Türkçe and approach her with flowers. I don't approach women, I have so many female friends, but I'd like to befriend her as she always stares, I want to invite her to sit with me.
My wife is Macedonian
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Yes they do. Only within other eastern Europeans or north Europeans
Living in Croatia now I'm shocked how soon People have children here. Same in the city and in the villages, you met someone younger than you (I mean 20/25 or sth) and they would propably be parents already.
Wow really they have kids early??
My friend is 23 and he already made 2
??? What, who, where do you live, what do those people do? I live in Zagreb and large majority of my friends at least went to some college and in mid-30s don't have children, even if they would like to have them one day (including me), like in most of developed world, just of a big series on millennial angst... When I go to my cousins in the countryside people there also mostly have children after 25-30, maybe they start a bit younger, but at 20? Maybe 20-30 years ago. And almost no one younger than 50 has more than 2 children.
How is the fertility rate only 1.4-1.5 Children per woman then? It might be just your bubble.
@@YourD3estinY where did I Say that all of them have children? The one I met are very Young, but I have a lot of friends or members of my new family that are chlidless. We live in a City and I'm working with Kids So have different view on the subject.
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I am talking to a Serbian woman 🇷🇸 she has said all this. YES: man's duty is to protect and provide. She will be a housewife. Well I own a ranch, I raise cattle, break horses, real man's work. I want a family so I'll take a Balkan wife.
Don't expect balkan women to be obidient or submissive. They will tame you not the other way round lol. I think yes they love cooking and doing all the stuff in the house but they wont play second to anyone. They are loyal i think but i think also they love money. So if you do not have money you do not stand a chance. A good name and a place in society it s important for them.
@@antek-vj5ey women are submissive to men they like, I have experience. I don't care about money, unlike American women these days. Women like strong capable men - that's what I know. I dated a Turkish woman, I know Balkan women don't mess around. Come on dude, give a man hope. I'm only 22yo traditional man in a world of liberated women 😔
@@antek-vj5ey I am ethnically Anglo-Celtic. Most Southerners here are of British descent. But you got a point yeah.
@@GerMFnU1848Sax english though is from Denmark originally.
Shame there's some misplaced angst again being a woman here i.e Greek lady
got to know a greek guy and he wanted 50 50
By the way here it was less or nothing about Albanian.. like come on ! Or do it only with Slavic country’s
Enjoyable and real. Marina you are a "Slavic Girl" why you not have 12 babies yet. Приємно і по-справжньому. Марина ти "слов'янка" чому у тебе ще немає 12 діточок. Приятно и по-настоящему. Марина ты "славянка" почему у тебя еще нет 12 деток. Agréable et réel. Marina tu es une "Slavic Girl" pourquoi tu n'as pas encore 12 bébés.
These are american women not real balkan women, all balkan women would be proud to say they cook and take care of their man
Balkan girls like a cat , European girl like a rabbit
No offence,
Firstly,since when Turks are from the Balkans?
Secondly,Greeks too..
And third Balkan was a term created by westerners in a pejorative sense meaning a bunch of countries that are one salad to their eyes.
No nation nothing…
Also the maybe Turks were ruling the balkans but it was never their land,they never belonged there.
It’s just an area with nice neighbours with a lot in common but please don’t use this “Balkan”term
Haha 'Balkan' word is turkish
The name of Balkan/Rumelia was given by the Turks, not by the westerners. Turkish thrace is part of Balkans too. If he is from there it makes sense, otherwise i don't think it makes sense too since most of the Turkey isn't in Balkans. Greeks(along with the Albanians) are the original Balkaners, how can they not be part of this video? With your logic, Macedonians, Serbians, Bulgarians, Croatians etc are not balkaners either, they are slavic settlers. If you look at the culture and history of these nations, you would understand why there is a common name for this geography.
Turkey is not Balkan. Greece is.
The Balkans have more countries. This is a joke.
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