Getting that regen turned down and permitting roll in conditions like this, especially icy highway conditions, is the key - otherwise you'll upset the rear of the car when you let off the accelerator. Nice video. Recommendation for drivers, create a new driver profile and name it Snow/Ice, so that you can quickly set to these preferences when you come upon poor winter road conditions, this has helped me substantially.
Great video ! I think what I get from this is that Tesla with the “extra” weigh due to the batteries + the excellent traction control, makes this car good in winter even with A/S tires. I think for those who are wondering if if change their tires during winter this is my advice: Tires is the MOST important part of the car during winter. A good set of A/S or All weather tires can let you go if where you live there is not too much snow. However, winter tires will be ALWAYS the safest option during winter !
I have driven in 5" of recent snowfall in DC Metro in my MYP with stock summer tires 21". I was afraid at first after all the videos I have watched on RUclips saying don't do it without snow tires or at least all weather tires. But I was pleasantly surprised! At uptown speeds of 45 MPH it was simply amazing. Did not have any issue with the regen. I was slow to release the pedal, and there was no skidding or slippage. I am truly amazed with this car. I wonder if the MYP performs better than the Model Y Dual Motor in the snow because the motors are slightly more powerful. And for the amount of snow we get in DC Metro area (once in a while) - does not look like I will have to swap out for winter or all weather tires.
@@coleeto2 Certainly concur especially if it snows frequently. In our neck of the woods it snows 3-5 times a year. And we can get by without having to drive in the snow for those few days...
GREAT video, Tommy! I enjoy experiencing the car through your videos while I wait for my delivery day. My test drive did not include trying "Roll" mode - and after the recent winter weather here, I had serious questions about how I would deal with regen in slick conditions. Question answered. You keep having fun, I'll keep watching!
I have been told that the 19inch tires on the Dual Motor AWD will perform better than the 21 inch tires in the snow because they can cut through the snow better. As far as power, both cars would be using only a small fraction of the HP and Torque that could possibly be used in these conditions. But this video is very useful and tells what settings to use in snow covered roads.
"DEEP SNOW"... Seriously, get an editor. While I'm not expecting "DEEP SNOW" like I run our 4x4's through I expect "DEEP SNOW" to be consistently more than 6" of fluff. Just say "snow" as that is not "DEEP SNOW". Again, no criticism of Tesla, or the Model Y, both great choices.
@donlarson1224 It was enough snow to show the principle. You don't need studded tires in snow. But they are very necessary on ice. And usually, you get both in winter.,
Also, in my own experience (a Plaid with all-seasons), snow is fine, it’s the ice patches that’ll get you, especially when they’re wet. Braking distance increases by a lot, and you’ll be very prone to understeer if you try to turn. So beware.
One last thing to note: your best stopping distance will be to just trust the regen - it will ride the limit of traction much better than the ABS. Try it, you’ll see. Applying the brakes when the regen is at the limit is totally useless, in fact slightly counterproductive. So in a panic, don’t use the brakes, instead try to gently turn towards something softer than what you’re heading for, as best you can.
Agree with Gregory. Braking can be tricky particularly going downhill as majority of the weight gets distributed to front wheels which can make steering totally out of control thus minimizing your chances of negotiating your path to a safer stop. The key would be being so gentle on both pedals and focusing mainly on steering. Have learnt my lessons the hard way in Australian snow up in the mountains. This was not in a Tesla though.
The car is a beast in snow. Imagine putting actual snow tires on! The only downside if you actually get stuck, no one will be able to pull you out because of the weight 😅 greetings from MY LR owner.
What type or radar do you have and how did you direct wire it? Used do this with my V1 on my ICE cars, but don’t know where the fuse boxes are on this car. Any advice or video would be appreciated!
Man all good, but why you cannot make donnuts? Model 3 has option for turning system off and doing sideways with rwd setting of the distribution. I have seen such videos. Is this option missing in Y ?
I have the RWD MY with snow tires and haven’t experienced issues with the regen breaking causing and slippage. I think it might be due to parking outside and having reduced regen but also the winter tires help a lot. This is living in Toronto. Some good snow and ice this year for reference.
@@TommyLGarage it definitely works EXCEPT for yesterday’s blizzard. Got stuck in a foot of snow. Today it was ploughed and very icy but no problem with grip.
YYZ here, Got Michelin Artic Alpine P4 on my MY LR, it was able to get out of most situations using slip start except the deepest fresh snow. Been living through the years with 4-5 top AWD systems, and comparatively MY's snow performance is actually very good.
@@ac-stingz in that case maybe the snow was the issue and not necessarily the RWD. I got the x ice snows this year. Only cars I saw driving around were the big F150s. A few on my street.
Close yes but acts more like a rear biased car due to the front motors being idle until grip/power is needed. They do this to improve range on dual motors
Exactly, I am not sure what he was on about... as long as you are not using totally worn down summer tires and have RW only. Great vid though. Thanks! :)
Same here, I went out last week and did a bunch of tests myself. I even stopped with one side of the car on a sheet of ice and the other side on pavement, 0 issues as the regen reduced itself
Yes! Yes! I had same experience with my Model X LR+ during last Christmas storm on road to South Lake Tahoe. Stock all season tires. Great confidence in making new tracks going 35 to 45 mph. Love my Tesla for its AWD snow capability.
@@TommyLGarage i apologize that was rude. I do not know your area. I just heard a tire person friend tell me of all the accidents on a certain hill..due all season tires..Maybe some grades of them are allowed but regular winter tires work better. Trust me. (i do not know what version of winter tires are required in Northern BC)
@@TommyLGarage Thanks for the reply and video man!! I have been hearing good things about those, and glad to have come across your video. I was wondering if that model would hold up nice on 20" Uberturbines. Looks like they did exceptional on your 21" s! Have you tried them out in the summer time yet? Hows the handling and range hit?
I'm SO nervous but this video helps! My wife and I just ordered a MLP to replace her Mercedes GL 450. We live in northern NY in "lake effect snow country". Today I ordered a set of MICHELIN PILOT SPORT ALL SEASON 4 for the Tesla and pray they perform well. Expectations are realistically low. I drive a '22 Land Rover Defender on Duratracs and it's absolutely amazing in snow.
Btw, mass doesn’t matter (much) - when you work out the physics math, you find that the extra friction from the added weight is exactly matched by the increased momentum you now need to overcome. The only thing added weight affects is the compression of the tire rubber, which affects its chemistry, which in turn affects its grip slightly. It’s even possible to be “too heavy” for your specific tire chemistry and lose traction compared to a lighter car on the same tires.
Fantastic to see your results. Only warning I'd suggest is that we can't over come a) momentum and b) the physics of weight. Didn't look up weight of car, but I suspect near or over 5,000 lbs. That will give you traction to start, and grip in stopping and corners, however there is a limit to how much any tire can provide. And the more speed the higher the exponential impact of skidding, turning, stopping or crashing. You ski. What is your off the top of your head number of four wheel drive vehicles in the ditch versus lower, lighter, smaller vehicles? My experience is higher centre of gravity, four wheel systems weigh more than two wheels, drivers of 4WD get over confident because they can accelerate. But that is from zero. From 60kph/40mph or higher completely different story. And the same for stopping. In your video you were probably under 50kph/30mph. All drivers should practice in a safe parking lot. Every year the slippery comes. You should do much more often, but my neighbours think I'm nuts cuz I do it every time there is any stuff on our street. Hint: my residential street will probably be the worst I will drive on that day. All other roads will be plowed and salted before mine. Good luck out there and keep your eyes up. Oh ya, please go to the parking lot and practice getting out of control and then getting it back. Donuts or whatever. Don't stop learning.
Winter tires are softer and grip in colder temp. Studded winter grips are like three times better than all seasons. 8 to 12 inches of snow then wind drifts it around . The all seasons tire don't get out of the hotel parking lot . Around here all drivers have a separate set of tires with steel rims ready for the first snow and then to take them off when it warms up in spring . The tire company's have ads that show on average the winter tire spots 33feet shorter than a average all season tire . That is the length of most vehicles. Studded winter grips are 55feet short the average all season . That is Goodyear and Blizzack tires
If you put new all season set of tires on most AWD cars you should get similar result and probably better too. On steep up hills your weight is not your friend always.
I live in Sweden, we have snow every winter. My Tesla model S75D is by far the best car i have ever had in snowy conditions. Quick, stable, dont get stuck, good heating...
Do you keep it on roll mode and slip start while driving in snow? What settings do you have it on for best traction? I tried looking at your screen but was a little blurry. Thanks!
Studded tire are much better on ice. But they doesn't do much in deep snow. I once played in 30 cm deep untouched snow with new all seasons (winter) tires. It worked fantastically. So, I'm not surprised. You just confirmed this for me. I had those tires in winter because streets close to the city usually weren't very icy in winter. They used salt heavily. Further out fro the city studded tires would have been the right choice, because thats where there were real winter roads!
Great video!! Thx 2022 Y Performance I have 4 Michelin tires on order (2) pilot sport All season 255/35/ZR21 (2) 275/35/ZR21 pilot all season 4ZP Is this going to be a good move or a totally bad move. I'm also going to mount them on separate wheels with sensors and only use them in the winter months. Any feedback? I probably have the weekend to put cancel in and order something else Please advise? Thx Tim
@@TommyLGarage Tommy Thanks for your quick feedback I do appreciate that. I actually went with the original sizes that were on my car, should I not do that? Actually I put a call into Tesla and they finally called me back since my message to you and they were the ones they suggested be used. The michelins with the more aggressive tread they only had in 40s A Tesla comes with 35s. It's like a quarter inch on each side different 1/2-in total in height. I didn't see the tire specs in your write-up I'll look again If you could actually send them I would appreciate it. Thx Tim
@@TommyLGarage Thanks for your advice. Didn't think of going wider. The other video where you show these tires they go very well in the snow. Call my tire guy today! NTB Thx Tim
Remember a car is only as good as the driver is, learn your car and make the car work for you, ever tire and season is going to have impact on how the car works
I just had my first snow drive in my MYP also. As you said, the car is a tank.....but it's also a tank that's faster than most cars on the road during normal conditions.😎
I guess you never drove an AWD vehicle in the snow ❄ 🤣🤣 That was also my reaction. I run all season tires on my E70 and I never got stuck, she is a beast.
@@TommyLGarage Try doing a full stop with the tires from 50km/h / 30 mph. You don't need good winter tiers to get from A to B in light snow, you need it for safty for others and yourself when you need to do manoeuvres and emergency stops. Even though you brag about how heavy it is and it feels like a tank, weight is NEVER a good thing when it's slippery! Make a video with this condition and the same tiers and try and do brake tests and corners in high speed.
I totally had my Y run off the road because it wouldn’t brake in the snow. Snow tires were bought needless to say to try mitigating this. And it wasn’t even deep snow might have been black ice. The car just kept going and wouldn’t stop.
Good to see you got all season out of Springfield . I figured that’s what I would get as well when I pick up. The computer has the amd Ryzen processor?
@@TommyLGarage ah ok, well I’m taking delivery in March so I’m hoping I just get the all seasons that they are starting to include now since end of December
I see you are in SR! I lived there for many years and navigated those snowy roads more than just a couple of times, but never in a Tesla! How about trying to go up Mountain Rd! Thanks for the video!
My driveway is on an incline. I live in a cul-de-sac and we seem to be the last area to see a snow ploy. Neighbors will typically have clean cars and driveways before the plow comes through. It's nice to see this test. I live here in Northern Virginia where I95 was shutdown and it's nice to know that once I take delivery of my MY this year I'll be better for it next year when get snow. I didn't get stranded on I95 but like knowing that if I did then the MY is one of the better choices out there to get you out of a jam.
Yeah. Up the hill and fresh snow is not the problem for heavy all wheel drive cars. It's the downhill on dense snow that has been turned into ice by many cars driving over it is what you should worry about.
update..we love space x. We traveled to Boca Chica to see the starship get built. & we got the S dual motor fsd last Christmas 🎄 😎 still have the cybertruck tri motor or 4 motor fsd on order, i got lots of solar & backup battery system to charge them both.
Not that I’m bmw fanboy but have you ever tried Bmw’s xdrive on snow? :) I’ve had 4matics, quattros, nothing compares to my wife’s x3 on snow :) I’ve never had tesla tho, I can’t compare them :)
I have a 2019 X5 ! I love the interior and exterior. I like the running costs (diesel) and comfort/refinement However the X drive is a piece of shit ! Even towing a 300Kg SeaDoo it can get stuck on beaches and slipways. The car is (for towing ) a bloody joke. I hope the MY will be better ! (I’m not hopeful)
@@maxflight777 i live in a place where we have lot of uphills and downhills. Last year we had lot of snow, lot of trucks (pickup) where stuck, i was able to drive thru without problem and i have conti dws which is all season tire. I don’t know how the x3 will perform towing or driving on sand :) but xdrive for snow is the best system I’ve ever had.
I drive a rear wheel Model S. The traction and the level of control of this car is unbelievable. My all-wheel drive BMW X5 just sucks compared to the Tesla.
Clickbait title. Was expecting something extraordinary, but this is a normal winter road. A frontwheel driven car could manage this as well no problem.
The only thing better then playing in the snow, in a Tesla, would be having a second Tesla charging while playing in the first one. I'm hoping the Cyber Truck will have a auxiliary bed-mount battery, so I can plow all day and night.
Using hold should not matter at all. I use hold all the time and just drove in the snow. Regen uses abs and traction control the same way as when you brake. It should not make any difference. The regen is controlled the same way with those systems.
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AWD helps but the biggest difference in favor of snow tires would be the greatly reduced braking distance and improved lateral grip.
Very well said
Getting that regen turned down and permitting roll in conditions like this, especially icy highway conditions, is the key - otherwise you'll upset the rear of the car when you let off the accelerator. Nice video. Recommendation for drivers, create a new driver profile and name it Snow/Ice, so that you can quickly set to these preferences when you come upon poor winter road conditions, this has helped me substantially.
Wow - good idea on driver profile!
Tesla should implement a snow mode
I love this idea. What settings would we use? Chill mode, what else?
Wonderful tip 👍👊😀
@@mimig8438 at a minimum: chill, regen low (if you can adjust it in your model, I can), roll mode
Great video ! I think what I get from this is that Tesla with the “extra” weigh due to the batteries + the excellent traction control, makes this car good in winter even with A/S tires. I think for those who are wondering if if change their tires during winter this is my advice: Tires is the MOST important part of the car during winter. A good set of A/S or All weather tires can let you go if where you live there is not too much snow. However, winter tires will be ALWAYS the safest option during winter !
Not always. All season tires are perfect for areas that get cold but don’t see lots of snow
I have driven in 5" of recent snowfall in DC Metro in my MYP with stock summer tires 21". I was afraid at first after all the videos I have watched on RUclips saying don't do it without snow tires or at least all weather tires. But I was pleasantly surprised! At uptown speeds of 45 MPH it was simply amazing. Did not have any issue with the regen. I was slow to release the pedal, and there was no skidding or slippage. I am truly amazed with this car. I wonder if the MYP performs better than the Model Y Dual Motor in the snow because the motors are slightly more powerful. And for the amount of snow we get in DC Metro area (once in a while) - does not look like I will have to swap out for winter or all weather tires.
It’s the weight and awd. Simply amazing
Winter tires are definitely still the safer option if you need to drive in the snow. Tesla awd do be impressive!
@@coleeto2 Certainly concur especially if it snows frequently. In our neck of the woods it snows 3-5 times a year. And we can get by without having to drive in the snow for those few days...
GREAT video, Tommy! I enjoy experiencing the car through your videos while I wait for my delivery day. My test drive did not include trying "Roll" mode - and after the recent winter weather here, I had serious questions about how I would deal with regen in slick conditions. Question answered. You keep having fun, I'll keep watching!
Thanks as always! You’ll love the car. Don’t worry :)
I have been told that the 19inch tires on the Dual Motor AWD will perform better than the 21 inch tires in the snow because they can cut through the snow better. As far as power, both cars would be using only a small fraction of the HP and Torque that could possibly be used in these conditions. But this video is very useful and tells what settings to use in snow covered roads.
"DEEP SNOW"... Seriously, get an editor. While I'm not expecting "DEEP SNOW" like I run our 4x4's through I expect "DEEP SNOW" to be consistently more than 6" of fluff. Just say "snow" as that is not "DEEP SNOW". Again, no criticism of Tesla, or the Model Y, both great choices.
Currently looking for an editor
@donlarson1224
It was enough snow to show the principle. You don't need studded tires in snow. But they are very necessary on ice. And usually, you get both in winter.,
Also, in my own experience (a Plaid with all-seasons), snow is fine, it’s the ice patches that’ll get you, especially when they’re wet. Braking distance increases by a lot, and you’ll be very prone to understeer if you try to turn. So beware.
Icy patches are tricky
what settings just ROLL for the snow?
What all seasons tires does it have?
Michelin Pilot as4
Hi Tommy, what is the specific tire brand and number?
One last thing to note: your best stopping distance will be to just trust the regen - it will ride the limit of traction much better than the ABS. Try it, you’ll see. Applying the brakes when the regen is at the limit is totally useless, in fact slightly counterproductive. So in a panic, don’t use the brakes, instead try to gently turn towards something softer than what you’re heading for, as best you can.
Agree with Gregory. Braking can be tricky particularly going downhill as majority of the weight gets distributed to front wheels which can make steering totally out of control thus minimizing your chances of negotiating your path to a safer stop. The key would be being so gentle on both pedals and focusing mainly on steering. Have learnt my lessons the hard way in Australian snow up in the mountains. This was not in a Tesla though.
REgen will lock the wheels
@@TommyLGarage not in my experience, unless maybe on a turn, which I haven’t tried
Does it have the new teleport firmware.?
Sure does !
The car is a beast in snow. Imagine putting actual snow tires on! The only downside if you actually get stuck, no one will be able to pull you out because of the weight 😅 greetings from MY LR owner.
Oh wow. You’ve made a good point :)
So how do u get out of u were to get stuck?
@@peoplesyemi6287 At least if you do, you’ll have bunch of Tesla games and fart noises to keep you entertained.
Cyber truck will be able to pull you out. 😁
@@79bnice let’s hope it comes out!
What type or radar do you have and how did you direct wire it? Used do this with my V1 on my ICE cars, but don’t know where the fuse boxes are on this car. Any advice or video would be appreciated!
R3. I will make a video soon.
Man all good, but why you cannot make donnuts? Model 3 has option for turning system off and doing sideways with rwd setting of the distribution. I have seen such videos. Is this option missing in Y ?
Yes that option is not available in the Y
@@TommyLGarage yeah they dont imagine someone trying this with the Y ;)
I have the RWD MY with snow tires and haven’t experienced issues with the regen breaking causing and slippage. I think it might be due to parking outside and having reduced regen but also the winter tires help a lot. This is living in Toronto. Some good snow and ice this year for reference.
Wow Toronto and RWD - hats off to you!
@@TommyLGarage it definitely works EXCEPT for yesterday’s blizzard. Got stuck in a foot of snow. Today it was ploughed and very icy but no problem with grip.
YYZ here, Got Michelin Artic Alpine P4 on my MY LR, it was able to get out of most situations using slip start except the deepest fresh snow. Been living through the years with 4-5 top AWD systems, and comparatively MY's snow performance is actually very good.
@@ac-stingz in that case maybe the snow was the issue and not necessarily the RWD. I got the x ice snows this year. Only cars I saw driving around were the big F150s. A few on my street.
GREAT GRIP no issues using all season tires in snow is the bottom line. Thank you Tesla.
It is so good
What tires did you put?
Can't wait to get mines! The even weight distribution also helps! I wonder what's the actual ratio 50/50?
It is close to 5050
Close yes but acts more like a rear biased car due to the front motors being idle until grip/power is needed. They do this to improve range on dual motors
*DUMB* 🍑 *!!!!!*
Maybe I missed it but what type of tires are you running ? The Michelin pilot all season. ?
Michelin pilot sport 4s
Regen breaking is very safe in those conditions. I always use it in high and it never blocked a wheel. It turns down the regen depending on grip.
Exactly, I am not sure what he was on about... as long as you are not using totally worn down summer tires and have RW only.
Great vid though. Thanks! :)
Same here, I went out last week and did a bunch of tests myself. I even stopped with one side of the car on a sheet of ice and the other side on pavement, 0 issues as the regen reduced itself
Odd. Maybe my roads were very slippery
@@TommyLGarage Try to capture it blocking the wheels next time please 👍
are you gonna upgrade to the off road wheels
Nope. These are fine
Yes! Yes! I had same experience with my Model X LR+ during last Christmas storm on road to South Lake Tahoe. Stock all season tires. Great confidence in making new tracks going 35 to 45 mph. Love my Tesla for its AWD snow capability.
They're tanks!
Which brand/size tires? Have the same exact vehicle and want to throw AS tires on there.
Michelin Pilot all season 4.
265 35 21 front
295 35 21 rear
Snow Tires + Subaru AWD - hope you have tried this combo in the snow - its amazing. Great video - keep em coming!
Used to drive a Volvo s60R AWD with snow tires - unstoppable!
What tires, specifically, are these?
Michelin Pilot All Season 4
@@TommyLGarage Have you driven actual snows or even CC2s? How much do these give up?
@@TommyLGarage How do these stand up to an actual snow tire for you?
What are the tires you use?
Michelin AS4
what radar detector do you have? thanks for the video.
It’s a Uniden R3. I’ll be making a video on it soon.
What brand are the tires?
Michelin ALl Season 4
Greets from Canada, that isn't deep snow. That's just a normal everyday snow.
All season tires....what an idiot. Not even allowed in British Columbia in winter. I wouldn't ride with him.
haha fine fine
Tell me.. .what makes me an idiot? These tires are allowed in my area. Please explain what makes me an idiot?
@@TommyLGarage i apologize that was rude. I do not know your area. I just heard a tire person friend tell me of all the accidents on a certain hill..due all season tires..Maybe some grades of them are allowed but regular winter tires work better. Trust me. (i do not know what version of winter tires are required in Northern BC)
thumbs up! Can you share what tire/size you got to replace original summer MYP tires
265 35 21 front and 295 35 21 rear
Michelin Pilot all season 4
What tires are these? I got a M3P and wanna get a 2nd set for ski trips.
Michelin Pilot all season 4
@@TommyLGarage Thanks for the reply and video man!! I have been hearing good things about those, and glad to have come across your video. I was wondering if that model would hold up nice on 20" Uberturbines. Looks like they did exceptional on your 21" s! Have you tried them out in the summer time yet? Hows the handling and range hit?
@@ChiefLunar yes I ran them during the summer for 2 years and still loving them. I got 32k miles out of my original set
@@TommyLGarage Awesome!! Think Im gonna snag a pair and replace the stock summer tires that come with the M3P and just keep them on year round
"that road has not been plowed, which means we should go through it" 😂
Powweeeerrrrrr!!!
My 2021 model Y performance came with summer tires and living in NY, I am dreading it. Not possible to drive.
Mine did too. I bought these separately
@@TommyLGarage Ok thanks for clarifying Tommy. Are these new tires Run Flats?
What all season tires are you running?
Michelin
Pilot sport 4 AS?
What tires did you get??
Michelin Pilot AS4
I'm SO nervous but this video helps! My wife and I just ordered a MLP to replace her Mercedes GL 450. We live in northern NY in "lake effect snow country". Today I ordered a set of MICHELIN PILOT SPORT ALL SEASON 4 for the Tesla and pray they perform well. Expectations are realistically low. I drive a '22 Land Rover Defender on Duratracs and it's absolutely amazing in snow.
But you’ll love it. Trust me
Don’t you have trackmode on the Y performance? Im skidding around here in norway like ken block with track mode on (model 3 performance)
Nope. No track mode on the Y
Which all season tires do you have? Crossclimate 2?
‘Mmichelin AS4
I've never driven an AWD like this either! The traction control is mind-blowing. I think it's because electrons are smaller than pistons?
Haha maybe!!!
What tires are these and sizes??
265 35 front and 295 35 rear
Here: ruclips.net/video/J-3Z6RpW7J0/видео.html
What tire are you running? I’m in Colorado and about to receive a new MYP :)
Michelin Pilot sport All Season
@@TommyLGarage Thanks!
Btw, mass doesn’t matter (much) - when you work out the physics math, you find that the extra friction from the added weight is exactly matched by the increased momentum you now need to overcome. The only thing added weight affects is the compression of the tire rubber, which affects its chemistry, which in turn affects its grip slightly. It’s even possible to be “too heavy” for your specific tire chemistry and lose traction compared to a lighter car on the same tires.
WEll said!
One pedal is not dangerous in the snow. It's very precise control.
perhaps...
Fantastic to see your results. Only warning I'd suggest is that we can't over come a) momentum and b) the physics of weight. Didn't look up weight of car, but I suspect near or over 5,000 lbs. That will give you traction to start, and grip in stopping and corners, however there is a limit to how much any tire can provide. And the more speed the higher the exponential impact of skidding, turning, stopping or crashing. You ski. What is your off the top of your head number of four wheel drive vehicles in the ditch versus lower, lighter, smaller vehicles? My experience is higher centre of gravity, four wheel systems weigh more than two wheels, drivers of 4WD get over confident because they can accelerate. But that is from zero. From 60kph/40mph or higher completely different story. And the same for stopping. In your video you were probably under 50kph/30mph. All drivers should practice in a safe parking lot. Every year the slippery comes. You should do much more often, but my neighbours think I'm nuts cuz I do it every time there is any stuff on our street. Hint: my residential street will probably be the worst I will drive on that day. All other roads will be plowed and salted before mine. Good luck out there and keep your eyes up. Oh ya, please go to the parking lot and practice getting out of control and then getting it back. Donuts or whatever. Don't stop learning.
Well said. I practice donuts every chance I get :)
Winter tires are softer and grip in colder temp. Studded winter grips are like three times better than all seasons. 8 to 12 inches of snow then wind drifts it around . The all seasons tire don't get out of the hotel parking lot . Around here all drivers have a separate set of tires with steel rims ready for the first snow and then to take them off when it warms up in spring . The tire company's have ads that show on average the winter tire spots 33feet shorter than a average all season tire . That is the length of most vehicles. Studded winter grips are 55feet short the average all season . That is Goodyear and Blizzack tires
What tires?
Michelin All Season 4 S
If you put new all season set of tires on most AWD cars you should get similar result and probably better too. On steep up hills your weight is not your friend always.
It should be. More traction.
@@TommyLGarage Weight, does not have that kind of effect on traction, actually. Weight distribution, have.
What all season tire do you use on your Y?
Michelin AS 4
Have you tried off road assist mode? I thought that forces 50/50 AWD and/or traction control changes but not sure.
I’ll give it a try next time
what state is this tommy?
NJ
There is also an "Offroad" setting, and it helps a lot. I drove in 8 inch snow in hilly St. Paul, MN
Thanks!
No trackmode on Y?
Nope
I live in Sweden, we have snow every winter. My Tesla model S75D is by far the best car i have ever had in snowy conditions. Quick, stable, dont get stuck, good heating...
I agree...and you're right - heating is amazing!
My Model 3 Performance (RIP) had track mode. I replaced it with a Model Y Performance, but I really miss track mode in the snow!!!
I can imagine. I miss proper snow donuts
Do you keep it on roll mode and slip start while driving in snow? What settings do you have it on for best traction? I tried looking at your screen but was a little blurry. Thanks!
Roll more during slippery conditions and slip start enabled.
Studded tire are much better on ice. But they doesn't do much in deep snow. I once played in 30 cm deep untouched snow with new all seasons (winter) tires. It worked fantastically. So, I'm not surprised. You just confirmed this for me.
I had those tires in winter because streets close to the city usually weren't very icy in winter. They used salt heavily. Further out fro the city studded tires would have been the right choice, because thats where there were real winter roads!
I guess I don’t experience the real winter roads in which case these tires will do
Looking at the AWD model Y and this video is great! Loved the content
Thank you. You will have a lot of fun in the winter.
That Subaru was just being smart / cautious and would definitely outperform you in the snow. Your Tesla is better than an M3 in the snow. Congrats.
Maybe…
Great video!! Thx
2022 Y Performance
I have 4 Michelin tires on order
(2) pilot sport All season 255/35/ZR21
(2) 275/35/ZR21 pilot all season
4ZP
Is this going to be a good move or a totally bad move. I'm also going to mount them on separate wheels with sensors and only use them in the winter months.
Any feedback? I probably have the weekend to put cancel in and order something else Please advise? Thx Tim
I prefer my size because they fit the oem wheels better. Not sure your other wheels specs. But for oem wheels I’d go with the ones I suggested.
@@TommyLGarage Tommy Thanks for your quick feedback I do appreciate that. I actually went with the original sizes that were on my car, should I not do that? Actually I put a call into Tesla and they finally called me back since my message to you and they were the ones they suggested be used. The michelins with the more aggressive tread they only had in 40s A Tesla comes with 35s. It's like a quarter inch on each side different 1/2-in total in height.
I didn't see the tire specs in your write-up I'll look again If you could actually send them I would appreciate it. Thx Tim
@@remingtonsypro3160 this will help:
ruclips.net/video/J-3Z6RpW7J0/видео.html
@@TommyLGarage Thanks for your advice. Didn't think of going wider. The other video where you show these tires they go very well in the snow. Call my tire guy today! NTB Thx Tim
Great video man.Got me a boost of confidence there.
Should I carry chains for my ski trip @Tommy?
No chains needed, unless you’re climbing a ski slope
Here in Alaska, we use studs. Wondering how that would work? Anyone have experience with studs?
I experience a stud each time I look into the mirror :)
Brother,
This is outstanding! Ha-ha fun!
What brand & model tire are you using? I might have to change my M-Y LR to same brand!
Cheers,
Eric
Thanks!
Michelin pilot sport AS
@Tommy L Garage
Yes, I have those on my GTI. So your car in the video had those!!! Nice. I hope they last longer than the stock tires!!! 😀
Remember a car is only as good as the driver is, learn your car and make the car work for you, ever tire and season is going to have impact on how the car works
Not all Teslas are AWD, correct? So, those who say they are not good probably have Rear drive, correct?
no; some were RWD.
Very good video. Tesla long range Model Y need all season tires too ??
Thanks and no. Long range comes with all season
Tommy, how are the seats of the G compared to the M3?
G? G80?
@@TommyLGarage I meant Y!
It's crazy that it has only snowed once in south jersey. someone is having fun in the snow.
I love it here!
Nice video. Whats the tires you are using in your Tesla Model Y performance? Could you pls provide the config?
he talks about in this video Model Y Performance Tires Upgrade: ruclips.net/video/J-3Z6RpW7J0/видео.html
Michelin all season
265 35 21 front and 295 35 21 rear.
Another great video Tommy.
Another great comment!
Excellent Video, you literally put the naysayers out of business! Tesla is excellent to drive in all sorts of conditions! thanks, new subscriber! 🚘
Welcome to the family Ronald!!!!
Which brand of tires did you add to your Tesla??
Michelin All Season 4
Wish we had some snow in TX to try out. Maybe we’ll get another freeze haha
Hopefully not because most people there run summer tires
@@TommyLGarage Hahha true!
This is awesome, thanks for the recap and tire recommendation Tommy!
Thanks for watching !
I just had my first snow drive in my MYP also. As you said, the car is a tank.....but it's also a tank that's faster than most cars on the road during normal conditions.😎
Haha very true !
I guess you never drove an AWD vehicle in the snow ❄ 🤣🤣 That was also my reaction. I run all season tires on my E70 and I never got stuck, she is a beast.
I drove plenty. This one by far drives the best
E70 X5 also close to 50/50 that’s so good in snow. I drove mine up really steep hills in snow storm no problem on conti dws all season.
My old Audi awd with snow tires. Now that’s a true beast in the snow.
amazing. but why are you not buying winter tyres?
Because of what I just showed in the video hehe
@@TommyLGarage Try doing a full stop with the tires from 50km/h / 30 mph. You don't need good winter tiers to get from A to B in light snow, you need it for safty for others and yourself when you need to do manoeuvres and emergency stops.
Even though you brag about how heavy it is and it feels like a tank, weight is NEVER a good thing when it's slippery! Make a video with this condition and the same tiers and try and do brake tests and corners in high speed.
Just ordered the same set for my Model Y P. Thanks
You’ll love them
@@TommyLGarage Thanks. I find it amazing how Pirelli were great on my SRT but terrible on the Y.
Getting started on a snowy road is one thing, let’s see a brake test downhill an icy/snowy hill..
True!
I totally had my Y run off the road because it wouldn’t brake in the snow. Snow tires were bought needless to say to try mitigating this. And it wasn’t even deep snow might have been black ice. The car just kept going and wouldn’t stop.
Must have been summer tires ?
@@TommyLGarage stock all season with only 6k miles. It was fine until that incident. See my profile for the video.
Thanks for a very interesting video!
What are the exact make of your tires?
Greetings from Sweden 👍
Michelin pilot all season 4
What a nice place you living. What state / city , if u don’t mind to say ?
Northern NJ!
Hi from PA. It’s really cold recently. Nice video and give me a confidence to drive my model y on the snow
You’ll love it!
You'd think this guy never drove an AWD vehicle in the snow.
That's what I thought before AND after watching this.
I think he’s full of it
My Mazda CX5 with awd handles the snow as well as in this video. Also with all season tires.
This video is only for novices
I live in East Texas so the snow driving is rarely an issue but this is very impressive. Great video!
Thanks! 👍
Good to see you got all season out of Springfield . I figured that’s what I would get as well when I pick up. The computer has the amd Ryzen processor?
I didn’t. I got summers out of them. I ended up buying all seasons myself
@@TommyLGarage ah ok, well I’m taking delivery in March so I’m hoping I just get the all seasons that they are starting to include now since end of December
I see you are in SR! I lived there for many years and navigated those snowy roads more than just a couple of times, but never in a Tesla! How about trying to go up Mountain Rd! Thanks for the video!
I’ll try it up Mountain Road next time :)
going is one thing.. stopping is another!
Very good point
My driveway is on an incline. I live in a cul-de-sac and we seem to be the last area to see a snow ploy. Neighbors will typically have clean cars and driveways before the plow comes through. It's nice to see this test. I live here in Northern Virginia where I95 was shutdown and it's nice to know that once I take delivery of my MY this year I'll be better for it next year when get snow. I didn't get stranded on I95 but like knowing that if I did then the MY is one of the better choices out there to get you out of a jam.
Just make sure you’re not on summer tires
@@TommyLGarage Supposedly the new ones are supposed to be coming with all season tires but I definitely will be checking.
Off road mode seems to be the best setting for snow and ice for me no slip start or anything else
I’ll try it next
Trail Blazer! Looks like you're having fun with your Y.
Loving it!!!
Yeah. Up the hill and fresh snow is not the problem for heavy all wheel drive cars.
It's the downhill on dense snow that has been turned into ice by many cars driving over it is what you should worry about.
Glad I didn't go downhill!
My rear wheel drive model3 with all weather tires is as capable as an SUV in snow, awesome car!
I agree !!
I wonder if the 19" wheels would have done better.
For sure !
update..we love space x. We traveled to Boca Chica to see the starship get built. & we got the S dual motor fsd last Christmas 🎄 😎 still have the cybertruck tri motor or 4 motor fsd on order, i got lots of solar & backup battery system to charge them both.
I still can’t get myself to like the cyber truck
Not that I’m bmw fanboy but have you ever tried Bmw’s xdrive on snow? :) I’ve had 4matics, quattros, nothing compares to my wife’s x3 on snow :) I’ve never had tesla tho, I can’t compare them :)
Yes I have. Love the Xdrive too!
I have a 2019 X5 ! I love the interior and exterior. I like the running costs (diesel) and comfort/refinement
However the X drive is a piece of shit !
Even towing a 300Kg SeaDoo it can get stuck on beaches and slipways. The car is (for towing ) a bloody joke.
I hope the MY will be better ! (I’m not hopeful)
@@maxflight777 i live in a place where we have lot of uphills and downhills. Last year we had lot of snow, lot of trucks (pickup) where stuck, i was able to drive thru without problem and i have conti dws which is all season tire. I don’t know how the x3 will perform towing or driving on sand :) but xdrive for snow is the best system I’ve ever had.
I drive a rear wheel Model S. The traction and the level of control of this car is unbelievable. My all-wheel drive BMW X5 just sucks compared to the Tesla.
I can relate. These things are tanks.
Clickbait title. Was expecting something extraordinary, but this is a normal winter road. A frontwheel driven car could manage this as well no problem.
OK
The only thing better then playing in the snow, in a Tesla, would be having a second Tesla charging while playing in the first one. I'm hoping the Cyber Truck will have a auxiliary bed-mount battery, so I can plow all day and night.
Good point!! I regret not preordering one
Using hold should not matter at all. I use hold all the time and just drove in the snow. Regen uses abs and traction control the same way as when you brake. It should not make any difference. The regen is controlled the same way with those systems.
IT matters on ice