Primož Roglič to Bora Hansgrohe CONFIRMED! | Cycling Transfers 2024
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2023
- Primož Roglič is 90% confirmed to be leaving for Bora Hansgrohe after it emerged he has been spotted at the Red Bull Centre in Salzburg and this could be his chance for another go at winning the Tour de France in 2024.
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It is a huge asset for Bora with this acquisition. They surely will be a powerhouse with so many good climbers.
I really like the idea of Vlasov and Martinez and Kamna working for Roglič to help him win the Tour next year, and especially with the likelihood Ineos will be backing Evenepoel, UAE for Pogačar, and ???-Visma for Vingegaard! HOW FUN WILL NEXT JULY BE? Let's all pray none of them crash out to see a true, and somewhat even battle.
Ineos = Pinarello and Evenepoel is the Specialized new poster boy. So you can already forget that combination. I do not even understand why anybody would start all those dumb rumours about Remco joining Ineos. I don't mean you of course, but all those people who make podcasts or write articles for the cycling magazines.
Someone who has a private contract with Specialized for many years to come will never ever join a team that is not racing on Specialized bikes.
And let me tell you some news 😉 Visma-Jumbo will not ride on Cervelo next season anymore but on Specialized. ✌Thus yes Vingegaard and Evenepoel will ride in the same team next season or another team with Specialized bikes must come and sign him. But that would have to be a very rich team since Remco does have a contract, meaning that the team that would want him must buy him out.
Thus, just check the rich teams that ride on Specialized bikes. And you will know where Evenepoel will ride next season, but I did already tell you the answer. ✌
@@swissbiggy There are already plenty of rich pockets ready to take Jumbo's place, which is why the merger with Soudal was being negotiated in the first place. As for having the money, Roglic is also under colntract, but it's clear plenty of teams are willing to pay big bucks for him, so ???-Visma will have that 6 million Euros per year to start with already. I seriously doubt after TJV just schooled him at the Vuelta that he'll want to join with Vingegaard. He wasnt the Tour win. Why is it not possible that Ineos switch its bikes to Specialized next year as part of a deal to entice Evenepoel? Ineos has money. They have Tour win experience (via Sky). I do not think these were ever "just" rumors. I think teams were making offers and Remco was considering the one from Ineos to the point he was negotiating with them. I don't know European cycling as well as you apparently do, but I know how casting rumors originate in Hollywood. They're always based on agents knowing who is having meetings with whom, combined with whispers of interviews "off-the-record." Yes, some rumors this past week were generated from people making simple suggestions on Twitter. It was getting crazy. But the Ineos+Evenpoel "rumors" were actually based on leaks from sources with reliable track records. It also start to add up when you look at things logically and you start ruling other teams out due to who is on their team, how much money they have, their DS experience, etc. What bike they ride can always be worked out separately with the sponsors. Pinarelli has been with the team since they began, but this isn't the Froomer era any more. Time to move on. If they can get Evenepoel, he can ride whatever he wants. Duh. Would UAE ever tell Pogacar what bike he has to ride? Of course not.
@@swissbiggymy thoughts exactly. Ineos don't have the support for remco anymore. They are the next lotto destiny team
It would not make sense for Roglic to go to a team with any sort of competition for the leadership of the team. Bora doesn't have another rider on his level, so he would be the clear no. 1 with some solid support from Vlasov & Buchmann. And young Cian, who can learn from Roglic for a couple of years, until he is more ready to be the main man himself.
Not to mention Hindley support.
what about hindley lol
@@splvne2807 Hindley isn't in the same tier so he'll be the leader for the Giro and the Vuelta while Roglic focuses on the Tour.
Makes a lot more sense since Hindley can perform and gain experience on two grand tours per year while Roglic can build his whole season around the Tour and maybe the Olympics
@@koreystephensI can't imagine Hindley wanting to ride for him. They have the same number of Giro titles
But is the infrastructure there for him though? Roglic is strong and he is the clear leader in teams without either Vingegaard or Pogacar. He should go to Ineos.
Bora makes sense given Roglic will be a true number 1. GC contenders like Jai Hindley and Cian U can continue to develop and even focus on Giro and Vuelta while Roglic focus on the TDF. No issues on the order of operations. TDF will be quite exciting.
Agreed. And they can run a dual leader strategy (which seems to be the hot GT tactic these days) without any real friction since Hindley and Co are clearly still tier 2 leaders but too good for other teams to ignore.
@@KD_cycling I don't think they will do a true co-captaincy with Primoz and the other GCs on Bora, he is number 4 UCI and the others are ranked below 20. I think he leads TDF and focuses on the result as sole GC. I think to make transition easier other GCs will be allowed to focus on other 2 grand tours 2024. No way Primoz co captain TDF, the will ride from him. He probably has this in his contract.
@@stacyp3295 That's kinda my point. He will be the obvious leader as he is clearly a class above but the current winning strategy is to run a "co-leader" to open up strategic options and to be a fall back option in case of crashes, illness etc. Just like Adam Yates for Pogi, Rog for JV etc.
Co-leader might not be the right word, more like a second protected rider. I think this setup suits Roglic's style. He can send probing attacks with Hindley or whoever while he sits in the wheels preparing to do his Roglic thing in the last 300m.
The trick is to make sure the number 2 rider is a big enough threat that the other teams must respond but not so good that they threaten your leadership. The Bora GC guys tick that box I believe.
IMHO, Bora is the best fit for Primoz. And the addition of Dani Martinez gives him a solid high climbing domestique. The loss of Nils Pollitt does sting but is not necessarily the worst negative. Also, I really doubt that Sepp Kuss is going anywhere. TJV will do everything to keep him on the squad. Also, I remember Sepp's Mom coming up to Jonas after the Vuelta and thanking him, saying something to the effect that Sepp said he learned so much from Jonas. It was caught on video.
It seems to me that Bora could find a couple of first class rouleurs from the fall out from the Visma - Soudal merger.
@@markdwelchforcongress4456exactly. I see kuss moving as bora has the cash to be competitive with jv and uae
Thats great, I didnt know that….Seppie is an exellent mountain climber and absolutely invaluable for our Jonas 🇩🇰 ( I really just can get over the Angiliru etape on Seppies birthday, I know he told both Jonas and Primoz to just go, thats the gentleman he is…but to be honest I think Jonas was quite surprized by Seppies lead over him, dimminished to just 7 sekunds…..I know they all just had Nathan Van Hoydunks terrible carcrash on their mind, when they started, so they must have had some kind of brainfog that day…..I know Jonas felt terrible about not knowing how his good friend was……and he surprized himself in the mountain stage…..I mean he really wanted Seppie to win the race…..he said so…..later that day, they were told, that Nathan survived the carcrash and so did his child and pregnant wife….( very good turnout at the end ) no more Gino Mäder deaths please !!! It still sadnes me so much 😰
Oh no! Thecyclingdane just announced that Primoz will NOT win the TdF next year. You know what that means…he’s going to win it! 😂
Hahhahahahahahaaha
I like Bora, I like Roglic, I like this!
Jumbo fan but I don't mind Bora either so if Rog goes anywhere I'd rather Bora than Ineos. Going to be interesting to see if Rog can go toe to toe with Pog and Jonas.
Was wondering why you did not mention Sam Bennet. Turns out he's going to AG2R from your last clip.
Specialized getting it done ✅
Go ROGLA & BORA. New SUPER COMBINATION & TEAM.
Let's not forget Patrick Lefevre just gave everyone a letter that they are free to find other teams Ilian Van Wilder won today but he might be a great add to Bora TDF squad. Also we don't know who's got a notice to find a new team on JV aside from Jan Tratnik, i haven't heard of any renewals 🤔 get your 🍿 out and buckle up this is gonna get wild . I think.
I think so too…..Jan Tratnik is a great additivevto JV…..along comes another great 🇸🇮 guy…….
all we really needed to do from the outset of this controversial transfer rumor was to
consider the kit test… it’s OBVIOUS and INDISPUTABLE that roglic looks better in the bora kit than ineos or any other (although Lidl-trek would have been a nice look too)… but really, it just makes too much sense. we could’ve seen this one coming a mile away 😂
Bravo. Great article
Roglic , hintley , vlasov , uijtdebroeckx!!. UAE and visma have serious contenders now , good thing for fans and viewers
This is excitin. Bora have been aiming to be a gc team. Primoz has some seious climbing support in hindley, vlasov and young cian. If they send 4 climbing support and a few big powerhouse riders for protection in flat and hilly stages makes him a legit contender at the tdf
With Primoz leaving and Jonas focusing on the TdF, what GC-contender is Visma going to send to the Giro, the Vuelta and the minor tours? Kelderman, Ben Tullet, Kuss? I dont see them excell, Primoz is leaving a hugh void at Visma, it will take some years for them to recover and for youngsters like Tullet to pick up the gauntlet. It appears 2023 was a climax for TJV and their dominance will end.
With the merger happening they will likely send Remco.
Maybe with some good rouleurs who can form a decent train for Kooij if the route has enough sprint stages.
I have seen interview where Jonas`s wife said, Jonas wants to win all 3 in 2024 while beeing on top.....I hope he does ;)
@@WesternUranus Soudal's contracts are pretty much vacated in a merger due to their license being given up. With Roglic going to Bora, Evenepoel very likely will end up with Ineos...
If a team of 7 or 12 world class riders for Jumbo is standing on top of the mountain, and they've been there for some time, and one rider Primoz decides to go down the mountain for a bidon, I would be hard pressed to think the rest of the team are just going to suddenly fall off a cliff. Jumbo will be top dog until someone figures out a way to beat them.
Being 🇩🇰 and a huge fan of JV and Roglic, it sadnes me very much. How in the world could they not keep the King Roglic. He taught Jonas everything and Jonas I think will always look at him as his real leader…….I think he will win TDC for Bora next year….and I think he deserves it. Next year TDF will be Primoz 1 Tadej 2 and Jonas 3 just you wait and see…….
I don't think Hindley can win a grand tour if it includes a lot of the highest-ranking GC competitors, e.g. this year's TdF, this year's Tour of Spain, etc. I think that Roglic and Vingegaard have the best chance of winning the Triple Crown of Cycling next year, i.e. the Tour of Italy, the TdF, and the Road World Championship. However, I'm wondering if Bora-H has the domestiques who can enable Roglic to win a grand tour. I'm not sure if Danny Martinez is as skilled as he was when he assisted Bernal to win a Tour of Italy. Even though Kamna can sometimes win stages at the grand tours, I'm not sure if he'll be as high-ranking of a domestique as a lot of Roglic's teammates at TJV. I think Roglic will be much more on his own at the races compared to when he was at TJV.
That’s a good fit for him 😊
hmmm, interesting...INEOS must be all in on REMCO
I am looking Roglic to be like Alejandro Valverde path that retired 41 year old still knows can win.
That's very nice to hear, we have only been screaming this for the last ten days already, but some hard headed do apparently have problems to believe others. LOL 😅✌
It is a bit like all those articles about Evenepoel who would also go to Ineos. Which is bullsh*t of course, since Ineos are riding on Pinarello bikes, and Evenepoel is the new Specialized poster boy. We do know that Specialized will replace Cervelo at Jumbo/Amazon/Visma/Soudal/Deceuninck/Quickstep next year. Thus you can all do the math I hope ?
I deliver same information some days ago that signed with Bora for 6 mio for 3 years...
I think finally good decison from Rogla till now. It's only chance for parcitipation in TDF...
Wayy to go Bora!!!
greatest jersey of all time, Ewan 😀👍
damn right
I thought he'd go with Ineos as they have experience winning the TdF and they have probably the best TT set up. Maybe Bora offered more money or maybe Ineos want Remco. I like Bora but do they have the team organization to support Roglic? It's a shame they just let Nils Politt go.
Maybe he wanted to ride the SL8 over the dogma lol
@@daviddang82 lol, Roglic a techie? I more imagine him saying "a bike is a bike, huh"
They need someone younger, 34yo and 37yo (Thomas) as co-leaders ain’t a good investment
Silly season is awesome this year!
There really is not question about how Bora will function if/when Roglic joins the team. Everyone already in the team will work for him.
10:19 konrad is going to lidl trek
Yeah so true lol
I told u! ❤
What if Primoz and Remco both sign on with Bora? 🤔. That would definitely make 2024 interesting.
Roglic, Meeus, Jungels, Uijtdebroeks, Vlasov / Hindley, Kamna, Martínez, Buchmann would be an incredible team, low joke
Bob Jungels is great and so is Vlasov, Hindley and Martinez…..Primoz congrats you’ ve become a team captain of a now new incredible group …….just tell them what to do, and they will do it, if they are smart…….
Great team but you miss one rider for the Tour de France since Konrad is moving to Lidl Trek next season. So he might go to the Tour just not with Bora ;)
@cyclingdane who is the last rider for the tour?
They lack one or two strong rouleurs. Politt loss went under the radar. With Roglic as their leader for the Tdf and Vuelta and other GC guys and sprinters for the Giro, they need a van Baarle/van Hooydonck type.
I would assume that at least Jan Tratnik (also being Slowenian) will join the squad.
Their 2024 roster for riders is not complete yet. Expect more signings after they announced Roglic’s transfer.
They only have 23 riders on their roster so far (Roglic included), and I consider Schachmann, Van Poppel, Haller and Jungels to be riders who can work excellent on the flat. Welsford can sprint in Giro and Vuelta. But as just mentioned, they can still sign seven riders at this moment.
Van Hooydonck is out of the picture because of his forced early retirement due to his health issues. Poor guy, still young
Looking good in aqua!
Anton Pfalzer is German, but from southern Bavaria so almost Austria
Even though he finished 4th today, he still was ahead of Tadej
The jersy will deffo suit him better
Lol. Funny how everyone was just saying the jumbo soudal merger was terrible for the sport
Specialized on 2 fronts Bora and Soudal/Visma/Amazon
WHAT?! AMAZON?!!
What about cervelo?
The prophecy was foretold.... Froglic has returned!
Hahahahahah
Roglic is a merger winner- he’s one of the worlds top 4 stage race riders and he’s definitely getting paid. The crazy aspect of the merger is the 30-60 riders and back room staff who’ll have to find a job..and what about riders already signed up for next year? Ineos have to go for Remco..there’s no way someone like Jim Ratcliffe is going to the Tour for the next two years with pretty much no chance of winning it…and Remco waiting 4 years in the wings for Jonas to get 6? Hope he moves anyway..we need to see a real race at the TdF.. not some procession.
He's top 3 stage race riders not top 4, Only Vingergard and Pogacar are in front of him
Hah! I said it already while La Vuelta going on, and thick in-between lines from Prîmož' mouth that Bora fits him.
Only thing that grieves me is that I would realky love to see Cyan Uijtdenbroeks as clear leader and with Jai Hindley as support rider.
So while I last days of Vuēlta á Ēspaña really hoped Prîmož finding another team, I now reeally want Uijtdenbroeks to find a strong team supporting him a 100% as sole leader.
But unfortunately ain't gonna happen due to Uijtdenbroeks humble human nature, regretfully.
Would have loved to see him fighting the Giro podium.
Cyan is the future of Bora. But at only 20 years old, he still have 2-3 years to learn and develop. Kinda like Juan Ayuso at the moment.
By the time Roglic retires, he would be Bora’s main man at a GC tilt.
@@RonnelVillamar-vv3yfChange of plans
Glad it's not Ineos as much as I love Promoz can't cheer for Ineos just can't do it
Yessss...bora
I just hope that bora is able to keep cian for the following years, anyway next years tdf gonna be crazy with the big 3 and hopefully remco at ineos
Remco ain't going to ineos. The team have Rodriguez and bernal as domestiques and bernal is done...he gets dropped on cat 2 climbs now. He's not really a domestique anymore than I am
When Roglic is up against Vingegaard, Roglic will have to do to Vingegaard what Roglic did to Remco this year: Roglic will just draft behind Vingegaard and almost never take a pull, and then Roglic will outsprint Vingegaard and win and get time bonuses.
Jonas stabbed Premoz in the Vaulta. I hope he beats Jonas every time. He Never gets the publicity of Remco, Tadja or Jonas, BUT he just crushed Tadja SO Everything is possible if he doesn't crash. Roglic is the class act of the bike tour@
Well said
Jonas can drop Roglic on long climbs
@@delightchinosengwa1431Yes, sometimes he can. I think it'll be interesting.
@@dennisdoucette9373 How does Jonas being a better rider than Roglic equal Jonas stabbing Roglic??? Roglic was a selfish c.u.n.t. who wanted to go for the win when the rest of the team wanted Kuss to win. Only he couldn't because if he had tried, Jonas would have crushed him.
Fuck yeah Roglic. Next years TDF is going to be fucking great
This is not how it was supposed to go 🙁
5th at the tour, really?? I would love for Kuss to join Primoz, that would be a very serious contending team. I spoke with the prez of the Tade fan club, and yes Ewan is officially OUT! Traitor ☕
Here I am feeling exhausted after following the whole season and now I can't wait for the 2024 season to begin!
Besides that being great news for a Bora fan, I especially think this will be a great push for cycling in Germany again!
Is this because Ineos wants Remco?
I still dont see him winning the TDF. Something always gets in his way. And he wasnt even strongest on his own team.
6 Mio for Red Bull.. that's one goalkeeper or one formula 1 grand prix for them.
Jai is going to be a domestique don't lie
Jumbo had a great thing going! But egos and ambitions never fail? So I guess this is Sepp Kuss fault? Cause they were told to do the right thing? They swept the podium they are winning everything they want ? If jumbo had better management they could work this out …
Its not Sepps fault. Things are to complicated with too many GC leaders, Primoz wants to try to win TDF and there is no assurance he will be able to do it in TJV. He does not want to waste more years skipping it.
You need to go back to TDF as I believe this is where it started to get sour. I believe Primoz wanted to ride The Tour knowing that Pogacar had an incomplete preparation, but was probably told by the team not to because it’s “not part of the plan”.
I also believe he wanted to ride the Tour of Switzerland where it’s the only one week race missing on his palmares , and again was told not to ride.
I also believe that Jonas shouldn’t be part of the Vuelta team and was just a late addition.
Jonas attacking on Stage 13 and 16 was clearly not part of the plan but because he’s the guy who won the Tour twice , the team didn’t object and protected him.
It's all about the $$ and making the budget work. No way JV stays the way it is losing a major sponsor. From what I saw, they are still $9million short with all of the changes coming.
I'd take Udjebroks or Vlasov as super domestique.
TJV just confirmed, Jan Tratnik wilm not be joining Primoz, butbwill stay with Visma thru 2024.
Roglic to Bora 😊 !! Yes, Remco to Ineos😊
if Rogla goes to Hora, Hora will be my no.1 team.
what if jonas crash before TDF? and remco choose ineos and roglic to bora.
I guess Red Bull & Specialized is gonna pay most of his salary
Great news!! Primož have to brimg with him:Sepp, Tratnik,Attila Valter+1, 2 climber from Remco GT riders. BORA is great team,but they need to acquire one 🚜for TDF like Asgreen from Soudal.Losing Nils Politt is bad and they have to replacing for protecting Primož on TDF
Great choice! GER,AUT ,SLO Alpine countrys have seam Germanic coulture,mentality,fight to the end,great technology,smart tactis.
Next 2-3 TDF its 100% Jumbo will not win,but Rogla & Pogi show+ Remco(Ineos) Jumbo wining TDF is over for next 3-5years at minimum.
TDF 2024 with no bad luck and Primož win this TDF.
Perhaps Denz in top shape can do the job. He is really good.
Roglic can't just "bring" riders under contract with JV with him to his new team. It's not his choice to make. I'd be shocked if JV allowed Kuss, Tratnik or Walter to go. And why would any of them like to go? Especially Kuss, why would he like to leave a team that supported him in winning the Vuelta and follow Roglic who did not?
He can suggest if they pay for HIM to win. They will consider his inputs,but idk how long or tipe of contract they have.I like Asgreen, he is great bodyguard on flat ,cobbles,gravels, like WVA or Ganna .now is crazy in quick step.Roglič in Bora need Asgreen becous Nils Polit is gone. Sepp and Primož and Sepp are good friends. After "Soudal Visma" everything can happened.Wil see,If Bora wana win they need good team. Vlasov cant do much to halpp @@Snarkum
@@SnarkumI do actually belive Jan Tratnik will follow Primož Roglič. These 2 are a great team. Would love to see also Sepp Kuss in this as Sepp is of Slovenian origin...🤗
Guy on the right sounds way more british than he looks
Primož is 99% better TT then Jonas,who he have one crazy TT in TDF, but he is not stronget then Primož. Pogi is not better then Rogla in TT.
If they race Jonas,Pogi and Rogla 10 TT, minimu 5 wins go to Primož.
Stage 21 of tdf 2024, looks set for a mouthwatering battle between Jonas and Primoz. 2 climbs but half of it is on descend/flat. Imagine if Remco is still in contention at that point too.
Can we get Wout over to Bora please, I don't want to see Remco and Wout on same team
Praying INEOS doesn't bring him aboard!!!! He would not be a good fit. Hes got a bit of a chip on his shoulder. The one race he was winning was la vuelta and he couldn't win that any more if you ask me not that now Sep Kuss won it this seson. INEOS needs a real reset. Make some moves and make a 3 year plan but hey just arent a cohesive team like they usually are!!! Roglic is NOT WANTED at INEOS!!!
🤘🇬🇧
Jonas vs Rogla BORA & Pogi UAE and wild card Ineos Remco. Luck will be big factor,but Jonas Jumbo is over wining TDF vs 3 teams with 3 superstar.
For Jumbo is coming a lot of😭😭😓😞😢
Jumbo they knw they have another machine in Wout
@@delightchinosengwa1431 Vout can halp but he is not GC rider
@@LL-iy7bg yaah i knw he will help Jonas as always
You have just pissed of the entire Pogacar fan club hahaha. Pogacar will finish ahead of Rogla, but Jonas still superior
Roglic to Bora Hansgrohe will hopefully contribute to the development of Uijtdebroeks as a GC-contender. Other than that I don't see it doing much for the team, as Roglic has no hope of winning the TdF where both Pogacar and Vingegaard will crush him. Maybe it will give Roglic the chance of that fourth win in the Vuelta, but that is about as good as it can possibly get for him.
Emergency
Someone being influenced by tate 😅 # emergency podcast
Glad it's not Ineos.
Roglic and vengugard is not best than the team jv is very powerful in all position
Palzer Toni is german
Primoz gotta eat
Hope also Kuss leaves the rotten bea hive:D
vingegard to ineos?
As a Bavarian Palzer is maybe an Austrian by heart but not by Passport😂
Will Roglic win the Tour? No, that is not gonna happen unless Jonas and Tadej is simultaneously eliminated somehow.
he will
Never underestimate the assasin. But its very unlikely to be fair. Mainly because Roglic has no handling skills on the bike and constantly crashes.
@@Gufolicious You are right, if he does not crash and rides smart like in 2023 it is possible, getting bonification seconds over Jonas and wheelsucking on high mountains, why not.
I agree. It must be a scenario like in the 2014 Tour when Nibali won, after both Froome and Contador crashed out.
@@miss9832
How ?
Please please tell me I am having a nightmare, and I will wake up to see he signed for Ineos! WTF Boraaaaaaaaaahh, boring Bora will not give him the Tour!
Who will?
FAKE MEWS (yes, like cows do)
Glad he’s leaving
Roglic ... Showed his true colours at this year's Vuelta.
With toys thrown truly out of the pram,He can ride his twilight years in obscurity at Bora.
Just glad that Ineos didn't end up with him.