Melvin Farmer on What Sparked the 40 Year War Between Eight Trays & Rollin 60s (Part 6)
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In this clip, Melvin Farmer discussed the inception of the war between the Eight Tray Gangsters and Rollin 60s. He acknowledged that the popular story that things were ignited after a fight over a girl, but added that things got heated after a member of the Rollin 60s was killed prior to that fight. Melvin Farmer also explained how there have always been internal rifts within the Crips but nothing quite like the Eight Trays and the 60s. However, Melvin never participated in the war. He said he effectively stopped banging at 17 because he was strictly Crip vs. Blood.
There are alot of men in prison and in the graveyard behind a woman.
Facts
a lot of them will tell you they dont know why its fonk too. its sad they dont know what theyre killing and getting killed over
FACTS
Pussy shit
How are women at fault because men decided to kill over them? So men have no self conttol?
"Everybody I grew up with started sets, they didn't join no sets." 🔥🔥🔥
HOOD POLITICS I know right cuzz. He’s an original
I was just about to post that no need now
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Aye man uploaded more videos man!!!!!
Bro put some new content out!
8:20 salute to Hunchy:
“8 Tray/Rolling 60’s is the dumbest war in the world because it started with 2 teenagers fighting over a female”
- OG Hunchy
#Conditioner That's how all wars start, That's how the Trojan War! Started. Many great wars started over a Bitch.
And that’s a fact
Unknown Source Dax fax
Improper guidance is the real root but ye aight
Just like the Gds Vs Bds. Over a female 🥴🤦🏾♂️
" grew up with people who started sets not join them" I felt that personally. If your going to be a Follower be behind a good cause.
LightsOut Boxing on gawd and clad tryna tellem what he heard like he wasn’t there
Now THAT was powerful 💯 talk about not followin...yall create yall own shit, not join another's
Factsssssss,realest shit i heard in years
@@Sigmanovar hell yeah 👍💯
After the started. Werent others joining to make it a set? Or was it one -man sets?
3:59 🤣
vlad be pushing it sometimes, coming off like he's telling these guys what happened like they weren't there
Sometimes?? All the times
Facts
Vladimir is a instigator
Damn u not lying bro. He do that shit all the time . 😂😂😂😂
Exactly straight clown
Legend says Big Tookie pulled up on 30 Crips and the only one Tookie acknowledged was Melvin Farmer wow Sheesh this man is the truth
Keep worshipping murderin robbers
Ik kinda amazed at how all the real og's are being respected and praised but at the same time their little teenage arguments led to the destruction of that community for decades and generations to come.
The real destruction is the people who gave them the guns Uzi’s are made in Israel
@@babyhushpuppi2697 SHUT UP YOU MORON, BLAMING ISRAELIS LMFAOOOO WHAT A STUPID MEN TALITY TAKE RESPONSIBLITY FOR YOUR FUC KIN ACTIONS SMDHHHHH
@@horaceturd5010 I think they saying how did a gun made in a different country on the other side of the world get into a teenagers hand in LA. It had to touch a while Lotta hands before it got there
@@horaceturd5010 you never heard of the crates of guns getting dropped off in the hood or how people knew the trains were transporting them and it just so happens to stop in the black neighborhoods
It’s systematically made this way dumbass, its been like this way before the 70’s lmaoo
7:39 "Everybody I grew up with started sets!" "They didn't join sets!" "That's a big difference!"😼
We went from wanting 40 acres and a mule, to 40 years of self inflicted genocide murder against people who are our same color🤔🤷♂️...damn what happened to us
Old ass man with nothing to show for it. Dont own no property of business in the neighborhood.
What happened was the removal of MASCULINITY from black households.
I'm mean, part of it is government assisted help with flooding poor black communities with military grade guns and drugs to help fund overseas contras and wars too. That's a huge aspect that's often swept under the rug.
@@NickyP1 FACTS man. All of these mentioned are all inclusive to the decline in our communities. The glorification of dysfunction, along with the contribution to our own misfortune has solidified the toxic mindset.
@@23BronxBomber couldn't agree more, unfortunately.
Old school talk with that calm killer voice!!
Robby Brown I picked up on that too!!
@Marc Greene Hell Yeah man!! Those types are more scarier than the loudmouths!!
FACTS!!!!
Should still be in prison
Voice like Easy E.
83's & 60's are the most influential Crip sets of all time ,
You can throw Ecc in there too but far as spreading nationwide and having the most recognition, 83's & 60's are all across the country in many different cities. Grape st Crips spread to alot of different cities too. And than on the Blood side, I'd say Brims & Tree top Piru's spread the most nationwide along with the Bounty Hunters and Denver Lanes.
You can't forget the W/S HOOVERS
It seems like the Hoovers always been most hated since the 70s. I grew up on Hoover and Gage in the 80s and they was always battling brims and neighborhoods.
It’s like that all over the country too
Hoovers are cocky an reckless. They also one of the main sets that started violating enemies sexually.
@@KingBreeze07source?
Where it wasn't a lot of murders..... the face he gave vlad at that 3:26 mark smh.... priceless.
Lool
🤨 he was like child please
Monster Kody told the truth
Yup i saw the video with him telling the story
Sure did. Although, I don't remember him mentioning the root cause being a girl.
Nah he did which is crazy cause a beef for damn near 40 years was over a girl who probably wasn’t even bad
Ok I was wrong I just watch it in he never did mention a girl said they beat a dude up in put he in trash they that when the fight happened with Tyrone
"BOOM BAP BAP BOW!"
“You had the hoovers, the gangster and the 60s creating a Bermuda Triangle”
I assume that meant a lot of people went missing without a trace!!
Moster Kody and his Story matches exactly how the beef started! The same exact story, a fight broke out, a guy came and killed someone but the guy who killed em was in the hood only 2 days and was claiming the hood so when 60's came and said they want the person who killed they brother and they couldn't give em up cause they literally didnt know him for real . & etc & etc
facts
Mostly. Kody said it was September, Melvin said March.
what makes you think monster kody is lying .?
@@prodigy8077 I don't think either of them are lying. The OP said their stories matched exactly but they didn't. Probably just 2 guys trying to remember shit that happened decades before.
@@Mr_Nuggetino big rick was killed in march. September is when they had that big sidewinder that turned into a gang fight. Thats when the war really got heated.
Salute to this man. Mr. Farmer a true creator type. I love how VLAD can't phase him with name dropping
VLAD: yeah I know BIG U
Melvin:... uum hmm?
cause it all started with him. And he said the people he knew only started sets they didn't come from them. Whoa.
A real one.
A real murderer and robber, you'll go far
With all due respect, Big U is a younger, possibly 53 years old, and is much, much younger than Melvin Farmer. He knows what he knows, but the history goes back a lot further. Just as Melvin stated, the Hoover's were involved in several serious beefs with other Crips. Prior to 1979, the Hoover's were in a serious war with the East Coast Crips, which claimed numerous lives on both sides , with Raymond Washington possibly being a casualty of that situation 😼
Don’t forget how the swans took Fremont HS cause of the the EC vs Hoover war
What I’ve found with LA gang history is that no one person has the defacto history of what happened, who started what and so on. I’ve heard way too many conflicting stories from OGs who were there. Melvin Farmer might remember one thing but another OG from the other side will have a different account and memory of things. Everyone only knows what they know that’s that
"Dont be here tomorrow". 😂😂😂
Gerald Andre 😂😂😂
L
Hahahaha
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I want to see a picture of this woman capable of producing 40 years of war, I'm curious now!
Damn. I hope I never run into a chick that tough.
Right!
It’s amazing how sharp some of these guys minds be at the older age, they be on point!
Point of what, a life of regret and killin
The worse shit is when OGs talk about history to outlets who are not from this lifestyle.
Cause he a freemason
He's documenting black history and putting it out there for the eyes and ears that would not gave access to it.
*"These bxtches be "Hypnotized wit Hatred Mane"*
*-Boosie*
😫😩😅😂😭😭😭
Looks like Vlad has been peeking Kev Mac Videos since Kev interviewed OG Hunchy.
to see an older man with so much passion and pride over having been an original crip even though he stopped banging at age 17...seems like banging makes kids grow up super fast yet never really grow up
So stupid
Dang Vlad, you KNOW that you watched that Hunchy interview on Kev Mac Videos....you afraid to give that platform any credit? Most of your questioning lined up with what KMV has put out there, is it too hard to give another man some shine?
yeah thats when the culture vulture side of vlad really shows its head, he rarely gives other black media outlets their credit
@F J Naa he just a bitch
@F J a culture vulture and a racist are two completely different things, you can definitely be one and not the other
Nope he can’t . He purposely miss pronounced the name of lord jamars podcast like 5 times in his face lol that’s when I knew vlad really was a vulture ass hating ass agent ass nigga
Vlad doesn't want KevMac to get subscribers
Vlad been watching Kev mac!!! Go ahead an interview my boy Kev mac vlad. I’ll connect it
Polyboo Oliver it’s Vlad. He doesn’t need a random RUclips commenter to hook him up lmao
Yea I hear you bro . Kev is my boy and we represent this LA thing to the fullest . This gang culture is real out here , I just feel he needs to give kev mac his credit on where he’s getting his info from ya dig Loc
Polyboo Oliver shut up plz
Vlad been watching Alex Alonso Street Tv ..he had Melvin on way back in 2013
Polyboo Oliver lmao Frr🤣right when he mentioned hunchy I knew vlad watched Kev mac
He said he saw the big hunchy interview... so hes up on kev mac?
Yeah could have give him some fucking credit and helped Kev out
Ruairi Mccann Exactly!!!!
yep and hes adopted Kev Macs style in some of the questions.
YOU KNOW WHITE BOYS BITE EVERYTHING BLACK MEN DO AND SAY...
THEY HATE US BECAUSE THEY AINT US💯✊🏿🤴🏿
Right so he watches kev mac and dont give credit smh
So ok.... I always thought it was just Bloods vs Crips. But now you telling me Its even Crips vs Crips???? We so F'd up as a people we can't even get along on some already ignorant ish anyway.....🤯 smh
Nahseem X it’s always been that way. Crips came before bloods
You should have known black people was divided Macolm looking out the window with that mini 14 because the NOI was beefing with him.
@@joshuamatthews1060 💯 #Facts
You obviously aren't in the loop with gangs, and that's a good thing. I'd focus on positive things and not even pay attention to street politics.
@@joshuamatthews1060 thats not a black thing. Every organization everywhere is like this. It aint a color thing. Look at the cartels, the mob, countires, religion... Its human nature.
*Original Crip:* I don’t like the word OG, it’s watered down
*Vlad:* well I just interviewed OG Hunchy
Word up! To Kev MAC I see Vlad watching the homie channel but why not shout out the good work kev been doing because let’s be honest kev have brought a lot of this content to the fore front so a lot of these stories we are now hearing are repeats only confirming the content that was already on KM VIDEOS.... yep not only is cuz the homie but I’m a Maniac♿️🤷🏽♂️
Google Monster Kody explains the start of 60s and 8 treys
Google the nigga been on RUclips for like 8-9 years😭
@@rjturner8591 😂 facts.. hopefully Vlad can interview him
More then Google get the book by Monster Kody it tells play by play what happened
Monster was a real monster tho 💯
Manny G that boy monster didn’t play no games. He cut a muhfucka in pieces, put the body parts in a bag, then sent it to the family he belonged to from the 60s. Dude was cold 🥶 blooded
It's a wonder how life works sometimes. It was a death that spark the war and it took a death to end it. RIP Nipsey.
I’m glad everybody know about Kev Mac NHC
To get the pure info Kev Mac Video you know this is fa sho.
VLAD WHY DIDNT YOU MENTION YOU HEARD THAT ON KEV MAC VIDEO🤷🏿♂️
By the way . I would listen to a Quadruple OG like Mr Farmer instead of Big U....
Like he said ..." that's a different ERA"
Is the Woman who started the War still alive if you find her a get a interview with her your a legend
@@adolfeichman9919 you got a source for that?
The girl was eventually murdered
@@Djdjdjfnnff really
damn he breaks it down like fractions, I've always wanted to know how & why gangs where broke down n2 sets .
Sets Is broken down by neighborhoods. The Car is the faction you part of. Got nothing to do with drug dealing because drug dealing came in the 80s. This stuff was established throughout the 70s.
@@iamn6421
Difference in factions and sets?
Richie Buz the “faction” would be like I’m from the rollin 0’s/nhc/2x car or the gangster/3x car or the criminal car. The set would be “I’m from Rich Rollin NH 60 crip reppin the deuce line” or “I’m from 108 Broadway gangsta crip reppin the trey” and then you got the hoover criminals. So you 83rd Hoover Criminals or the 107 Hoover criminals. The only crip set they got is 52 Hoover and they rep the deuce line.
Why?
pure curiosity
"It was a lot of internal murders"
As if them killing bloods isn't internal murder.
Let that sizzle in your spirit. ✌
I mean, when you're in a war zone, your enemies aren't considered internal.
If Vlad gets a Monster Cody interview he is officially the 🐐 #nodebate
He locked up for arm robbing champ. Hes in san Diego doing time
Vlad ain't the goat of shit
No let him interview the lady who they were fighting for , then he would be a legend
@@lovelife1674 She died.
Rappers and their Crip sets:
Nipsey Hussle- Rollin 60s crip
Kurupt- Rollin 60s crip
Schoolboy Q- 52 Hoova criminal
Tray dee- long Beach insane crip
Snoop dogg- Rollin 20s Crip
G Perico- Broadway gangsta Crip
Blueface- Schoolyard crip
Tsu surf- Rollin 60s crip
Bobby Shmurda- Eight Trey gangsta crip
Daylyt- grape street crip
Maxo kream- 52 HOOVA
Tsu Surf- a Rollin 60's crip??? LOL
Bobby Shmurda- Eight Tre Gangsta crip??? LOL
Bobby shmurda 🤣🤣🤣
He a off brand crip
GS9 crip his set called
@@tmclifestyle1780 his crew is called gs9. But they are Eight Trey
@@notsogood9449 yes he's Rollin 60s. He has it tatted on his back and all that. Nipsey embraced him. He's been to the hood out there.
Some of these guys you named are not from California so they are not valid and should not be in the same category as California street gang members.
5:53 Vlad: big U also said it became a arms race
BigU : IT BECAME A ARMS RACE.😂😂 THAT SHIT WAS STRAIGHT TO THE POINT.
Vlad just admit you get history from watching Kev Mac Videos. 🤔
John Becknell Vlad bitch ass be acting like he was really there
We gotta put that #KevMacVideos stamp in these videos...
John Becknell he best friends with Alonzso 😂😂😂
Unccle Locc for what? Grow up
John Becknell 😂😂😂On god
Must do interview with Shock G Vlad. Cmone.
Hell yeah.
Great idea.
He's no gangsta.
If he had Money B on, I'm sure he tried to get Shock. He probably declined. Shock a little different, doesn't do many interviews.
@@tlig What has that to do with anything?
tlig he was robbing niggas before the fame 🤦🏾♂️
Kev Mac Videos....thats where we ALL got put on game and this is just another piece to the puzzle but the real story is thru there
Bruh... That's just like the BDs and GDs in Chicago... Since 1978 been the worst war in Chicago
There were small feuds between BDs and GDs then known as the BGDs but other than that they remained pretty close as they were both under the Folks Nation but the Real War came into place in 1991 after the GDs killed Mickey Bull of the BDs that's how shit really started Hoover even dropped the B from the name and re named his nation the GDs.
OG Melvin said it best he don’t know nothing about Crip on Crip I love it he never left home, Crip on blood thats how he started that’s why he’s a real OG he sticcs to the Script
S/o to Big Hunchy from ETG for going to KMV first
Markee Hampton facts
@M J fucc vlad
“DONT B AROUND HERE TOMORROW” imma get ya ass 😂😂
10th Ave. at one point was one of the wildest streets in southCentral
Vlad cool and all but Melvin should have went on Kev Mac Videos for this type of interview.
He did already I believe
@@postadaking634 No he didn't, because I think he wanted $$$ from Kev. He did an interview with Street Gangs.
Monster Kody was the cause for alot of 60s dying
Nigga and alotta Tramps died too 🤷🏿♂️
Corleone Shawdy shut yo outta towner banger off brand ass up
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Go watch KEVMAC videos for the story of the 83 vs 60 beef.
When I read your comment Kev Mac intro song popped up in my head.
@@dhawwk lol
Kev Mac videos has all the gang history
Vlad must've seen all those gang history videos Kev Mac be doing & said I need parts 😭
I think he almost said, blood killa 😂
Where did you see that interview with Big Hunchy? Credit the source Vlad! You saw it on KEVMAC VIDEOS!
Damn near every gang feuds always start over a female.... 🤦🏾♂️
When I told him they better not be here tomorrow, his response was “dayummm”
“My grand pops use to stay on 60th & 10th !” - T.K Kirkland
Wow “other interviews” shoutout my man #kmvideos
Much love to Melvin you are doing great work in the community!
When he said blood vs crip i seen the dead look in his eyes
😂😂BAREFOOT POOKIE🤣 ive heard alot of nicknames...but thats classic mane!!
a lot of man are in the graveyard for Complete BS. # Gone too soon😥😥😥😥😭😭😭😭😢
It is important for Mr. Farmer to get the truth about this out to as many people at one time as possible to deter the game of telephone.
I remember Monster mentioned Sidewinder in the book...Sidewinder got down..str8 to the point no hesitation..A Real 0ne💯♿💀🔫
If u wanna knw how the rollin 60'$ started and the rollin 60'$ side of the war checc out kev mac videos. A real gang historian
Mel Manning especially listening too some tramp who’s not from the hood
@@foetyavehoodsta2830 im not from six owes homie or gangsta no dissing on my end homie but i am from the owe car ik more in depth history on another platform with better content on gangs vlad in the wrong lane just another white man obsessed with our culture vlad is a hyena homie
@@foetyavehoodsta2830 Nkapz always internet wolfing Ⓜ️
Lûh Riço lil busta you miccey as fucc. Foetys hook ass nicca
@@foetyavehoodsta2830 Ⓜ️8v3n Cuhz ✌🏾☝🏾
I was interested until my brain started shrinking. So sad that this gang-banging stuff is STUPID. Damn, we can't even do crime right that's how out of control our lives were as a people. Give us strength
It's more than those gangs....
It's the cards the whole Gangster Crip Vs Neighborhood/Rollin’.
You mean cars not cards
Not all gangsters move at once
43 gangsters are cool with NH
menlo gangster crips are basically NH
@@tmclifestyle1780 43 don't get along with the 60's
Mr LA
It’s on and off with dem
@@mrla3910 it's card bruh not car
Vlad just say you watch KevMac Videos we know you do and it’s been proved in this exact interview don’t steal the platform either
Exatcly he is stealing
People alway these guys are recanting childhood stories. They were kids, so YES IT WAS OVER A GIRL. Thats what kids do. RestUp everyone!
Yea I grew up on 85th and at Andrews by the park. Fo real no joke around there.
I love how he's so nonchalant about Gangsta shit
Get monster kody on
All facts. Monster Kody told the exact same story 💯
You need to give Kev Mac a shout out or sum
OG can also stand for older guy
Kody monster has a interview it’s on RUclips where he actually explainis the whole fight between the 8tre & 60’s
After the 106, 107 Underground Crips was at war with 107 Hoovers Crips wh pushed the Denver Lane Bloods back. 1984 60's didn't start beefing till the 40's NHC fought the 43 Hoovers that's when the 52 Hoover and 52 Broadways jump in it. 51 Trouble Gangsters started in the 40's as a tagging crew with the Dirty Old man crips.
March of 79 they parted. March of 19 they stood together.
I'm just talking bout the march bro. Shit happens daily..every city bro. I can dig it tho..I feel u
I remember a lot of ETGC'S.When I lived in there hood.Preacher T Bone Psycho Mike Chilli Red was the only Crip with the name Red.I remember Crazy D with 60 Murderer on his for head.He got shot in the head with a 12 gauge and lived and banged on. I remember Chino 1 2 and 3 and Crazy J and these were OG's from North Side Eight Tray Gangsters.Shit was crazy back in those days..
Vlad won't interview Kev Mac cause it'll take his viewers away.
It didn't take u, you're still here. We can absorb content from many sources you don't have to shit on one to promote the other... KMV
Yo culture vulture, give Kev MAC his props when mentioning the Hunchy interview
Watch Big Mumpy in Kev Mac
When he says “ I know nothing of crip vs crip “ the tone changed massively… that upsets him I believe
I’d love to hear all the vets on both sides in a room together.
Vlad playing a dangerous game when he involves “he say she say” with the streets... once again vlad you ain’t qualified to ask these questions ...smh
But he stay with the same ol chatty patty and in always surprised no one pulls him up it
I wish we could get a Monster Kody interview
BigU: In ‘69 the ‘C’ was born... In ‘79 the ‘C’ was split.
Vlad: HaHa
The Crips started they were chips off the block of the Black Panthers.
Your Father's, Uncles, Brother's etc.
"The Crips, Born to be Black" was the logo. later came the division? East side, West side. "Worrior's without a cause". Notice the older members were divisions of Crips 8 tray crips etc. I was there when the Crips started. I observed what took place, the history has been twisted with "his-story"?
Where you see that Hunchie interview @djvlad
🤣
Let me tell you a story, I had picked up this girl from the skating rink one night. When we got to the hotel room she had called home and was arguing with her x boyfriend who was from 8trey gangsta. When he heard my voice and questioned who I was and where I was at. I told him nigga I'm TK and I'm on 60th punk bring it. And someone got shot that day. Later on I found out that the girls x thought that the TK stood for Trey killa and also thought I said I'm from 60s. So the fight over the girl was actually cause of me . So I am the real reason that war started. ---- TK Kirkland
KEV MAC- say it with us now vladtv. Give credit before there’s an issue.
KEV MAC VIDEOS is the #1 source 4 this LA HOOD shit. Vlad can’t tell our history 😡
I bet Vlad ask him about Orlando Anderson & KeefeD
He Try & Interview The Girl That Started The Beef
And He Mention TrayDee forgiving the shooter 😂😂😂
Orlando Anderson
Tupac in Orlando Anderson beef
Kev mac video's!!!
y'all need to interview monster kody when he gets out
Grew up my whole life not knowing why all the people in my neighborhood hated 60's til some of these videos.
Did you ever ask questions?
@@AD-gs7zb yea but they would just say they "crabs" and always turn on each other and have no respect or loyalty.
“Don’t be here tomorrow” somebody need to make a gangsta l.a gang history movie. Drive by’s tucked in shirts hard bottoms and al green music