This is not easy method for DIY especially first time doing it. First rear is easy but the 2nd and 3rd plugs not so much as described on your video. I eventually have to remove the plenum for easier access. Thanks for detailed video though.
No, it’s not easy but doable with lots of patience and can only be done by feel on the rear bank. Removing the plenum (hopefully those plenum bolts not seized up) and the throttle body would give much better access but requires gaskets replacement and providing the potential for parts or foreign objects falling into the intake if the opening not covered properly. Thanks! 👍✌️
First of all, thanks for this. You saved me time and money. Secondly, dont try this unless you are pretty seasoned mechanic. You need to be in pretty good shape to pull this off. There isnt much room to get leverage on the ratchet. I didnt help things waiting til 260k to replace the plugs. They were almost seized. Neeeded to be worked back and forth carefully. Not something you want to do on the back 3 plugs.. but again, thanks sir. Id buy you a beer if I could.
I just did a 2010 for a customer they had never changed the plugs . It had three hundred thousand miles. Like to never got those plugs out. Kills me how people never do proper maintenance now
Wow! 300K miles/14 years on the original plugs? That’s unbelievable! I never thought that the plugs could last that long. Did you have a hard time pulling them out?
I would say, it’s almost perfect! During my 11 years of ownership, here are what I have found: rear differential bearing replaced due to abnormal noise, drive belt idle pulley and water pump replaced due to abnormal noise. Now the belt tensioner assembly start to make noise (another big job awaits) and the sunroof glass metal frame (especially the front one) has rusted out and may eventually causes water leak. So therefore, it’s not the most perfect vehicle that I have owned. Cheers! 👍🤞
It's good to know the plugs last that long. I've been dreading changing the ones in my 2009 and it's at 130k miles. It's running great so I'll put it off for a while longer. Hopefully I can do it with the intake in place.
Excellent informative and educational video, thanks so much for doing this tutorial! I was wondering if the coil pack should be changed at the same time with the spark plugs while the wiper tube is already removed? The front spark plugs and coil packs are very easy to swap out. Also, is there a deference in quality, performance and reliability on other brand spark plugs, coil packs? I also thought about doing a light engine rinse and wash to remove most of the loose dirt to minimize any debris entering the spark plug holes doing the process. Any thoughts or comments on this?
If there’s nothing wrong with the coil packs, no need to replace. Unless you want to spend money. And if you do, replace with OEM coil packs. Reliable and peace of mind. It’s your choice and your reference. OEM spark plugs and coils would be my choice. Engine wash would be necessary. There’s not much dirt or that debris that would fall into the engine to cause catastrophic failure. Again, it’s your choice and your reference. I didn’t do on mine.
W/O removing the surge tank - it's impossible to fit a torque wrench back there to properly tightened the plugs. You already removed the rear bracket - that's the hardest. Just 4 more bolts and 2 nuts holding the manifold in, which are easy to get to. And removing the throttle body is not that hard either. I did all this today on a 2012 Sienna taking about 2 hours (includes replacing throttle body gasket and manifold gasket, and cleaning).
Yes, it’s possible to torque the spark plugs and everything else probably with small torque wrench like this one: a.co/d/bDqogpW Yes, you’re correct that it’s easier with the surge tank removed. However the more parts removed the more potential for failure, IMO. Removing the surge tank and the throttle body (if all the bolts not seized up) requires new gaskets replacement and gives a potential for parts falling into the intake manifold if not careful or well protected.
one question though, for Toyota I always use metric like mm, first time hear people use inch. but, but you use NM instead of footLb. very interesting..lol
Not sure why but the Spark plug size is 5/8 (unless there’s a metric equivalent for standard 5/8” spark plug socket). Everything else on this Toyota is in Metric which is all in mm and NM. Later Toyota models would have 14mm spark plug socket size.
@TimAZ-ih7yb You’re probably right. I just used the available spark plug socket in the socket set and 5/8” is one of the spark plug standard sockets in the set.
Good video sir. Mine is a 2011. Maybe change my plugs next Spring. She has 157,000 miles. I guess the plugs are iridium as they can go 120,000 between changes. Enjoy.
@157K miles, you’re over due for a spark plug replacement if you haven’t done so. Yes, 120k is the factory recommended interval. So if you choose to do this method, be patient and work by feel for those on the back of the engine.
I don’t know man. If I’m going back there for plugs , I’m changing coils as well. Well worth the extra 20 minutes to take off the intake, then you can actually torque properly your plugs.
@thomasblanco4995 Of course, whatever way is easier for you indeed. I didn’t replace the coils because there was nothing wrong with them. Also for the economic stand point, those OEM coils are about $Cad 200 per piece (not recommended for aftermarket coils), so don’t need to replace if I don’t have to. I have seen Toyota’s running at least for 18 years on original coils. So I’ll see how long these Sienna coils will last. Cheers! ✌️
@PTranProductions Hi, Sir! Can you give me part# or link to buy this socket and extension and wrench which you use for it? Or can I use standard set where is 1/2 and 1/4 wrenches with 2 long and short extensions????
@@thelensmax My friend, there’s no specific part# for the tools required for this job. You need a standard 5/8 spark plug socket, 10” - 3/8” drive extension, 6” - 3/8” drive extension and a multipurpose DIY auto repair socket set for this job. EMENTOL 6PCS 3/8" Drive Magnetic Swivel Spark Plug Socket Set, 12 Point, CR-V, Extension Sockets, Includes 9/16-inch, 5/8-inch, 13/16-inch, 14mm Sockets a.co/d/igd9yFB
I'm a bit confused you don't need to remove all those things for spark plugs I just did it yesterday not saying it was with ease like my jeep is but you don't need to do all that none sense to replace the spark plugs with all due respect
I meant no harm just was raised to do things easier I'm sure manufacturing company has specific ways of doing things but stripping the whole front end of your car down to get too tiny spark plugs is not needed I did it just fine without that just think y'all should step back from the car and re look at your operating table there is an easier way to do it I know it's tempting to get the tools out and use them but work smarter not harder and key board warriors that call people clowns for finding better ways to do a job really do make videos like these off putting I'm just saying there better way to do it so just take that and move forward instead of attacking people who don't follow the path set forth by others
@@PTranProductionsso there is room to do it but I do have the advantage of having a lot of free time to do it and patience I wouldn't take apart the whole car to do the task throttle yes air case sure cover yes some of the tubbing fine but removing everything else is very off putting and it will free up space but with proper tools you can work around just about anything
@@andyleo8418 if you like you can get in touch with me I'll record the steps I did cause I am doing new plugs soon This summer I'll show you the steps now if you have larger then average arms it may not be possible for you im quite a smaller build so smaller spaces don't really effect me like most men in there 40s
@@PTranProductions Excellent thank you I will try it next weekend, just got a 2016 previous owner did everything at the dealer except for the spark plugs.. go figure.. I guess it's a $600 plus job. Thank you
@@PTranProductions Hello there, I tried for an hour to get my hand to the last spark plug it was impossible, There was not way to do this job without removing the air box and manifold. Once I removed it it was still hard to get to the first one, you needed a swivel adapter. I god the job done finally it took me 6 hours total. But thank you for the video I give you props.. is not easy to do it with the manifold still on.
@@playstereo Well, it’s not easy but it’s doable. As I mentioned in the video, all the rear spark plugs can only be done by feel. You don’t need a swivel socket if you had a 6” 3/8” drive extension. I did on this sienna and on the 2011 Lexus RX350 - without removing the surge tank. Anyway, removing the surge tank would make life easier indeed and you got it done that way. Congrats! Sorry, it didn’t turn out well for you this way.
This is not easy method for DIY especially first time doing it. First rear is easy but the 2nd and 3rd plugs not so much as described on your video. I eventually have to remove the plenum for easier access. Thanks for detailed video though.
No, it’s not easy but doable with lots of patience and can only be done by feel on the rear bank.
Removing the plenum (hopefully those plenum bolts not seized up) and the throttle body would give much better access but requires gaskets replacement and providing the potential for parts or foreign objects falling into the intake if the opening not covered properly.
Thanks! 👍✌️
First of all, thanks for this. You saved me time and money. Secondly, dont try this unless you are pretty seasoned mechanic. You need to be in pretty good shape to pull this off. There isnt much room to get leverage on the ratchet. I didnt help things waiting til 260k to replace the plugs. They were almost seized. Neeeded to be worked back and forth carefully. Not something you want to do on the back 3 plugs.. but again, thanks sir. Id buy you a beer if I could.
Hahaha! Thanks!
On a hot summer day like today, I would love a cold beer!🍺😀
I just did a 2010 for a customer they had never changed the plugs . It had three hundred thousand miles. Like to never got those plugs out. Kills me how people never do proper maintenance now
Wow! 300K miles/14 years on the original plugs? That’s unbelievable! I never thought that the plugs could last that long. Did you have a hard time pulling them out?
This is the one of the most perfect vehicle Toyota makes. Plenty of power, tons of space, and bulletproof reliability. What more can you ask for?
I would say, it’s almost perfect!
During my 11 years of ownership, here are what I have found:
rear differential bearing replaced due to abnormal noise, drive belt idle pulley and water pump replaced due to abnormal noise. Now the belt tensioner assembly start to make noise (another big job awaits) and the sunroof glass metal frame (especially the front one) has rusted out and may eventually causes water leak.
So therefore, it’s not the most perfect vehicle that I have owned.
Cheers! 👍🤞
It's good to know the plugs last that long. I've been dreading changing the ones in my 2009 and it's at 130k miles. It's running great so I'll put it off for a while longer. Hopefully I can do it with the intake in place.
Wow! 15 yrs on original plugs???
Hopefully they will come out alright. 🤞
By placing the engine in R - reverse or D - Drive, it will give you a few more inches of play to fit your hand and work easier.
Not sure what would move if you put the tranny into gear?
Good. Watch & learn. Don't let the guys at Honest-1 Auto care in Charlotte, NC rip you off.
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Excellent informative and educational video, thanks so much for doing this tutorial! I was wondering if the coil pack should be changed at the same time with the spark plugs while the wiper tube is already removed? The front spark plugs and coil packs are very easy to swap out. Also, is there a deference in quality, performance and reliability on other brand spark plugs, coil packs? I also thought about doing a light engine rinse and wash to remove most of the loose dirt to minimize any debris entering the spark plug holes doing the process. Any thoughts or comments on this?
If there’s nothing wrong with the coil packs, no need to replace. Unless you want to spend money. And if you do, replace with OEM coil packs. Reliable and peace of mind.
It’s your choice and your reference. OEM spark plugs and coils would be my choice.
Engine wash would be necessary. There’s not much dirt or that debris that would fall into the engine to cause catastrophic failure.
Again, it’s your choice and your reference. I didn’t do on mine.
W/O removing the surge tank - it's impossible to fit a torque wrench back there to properly tightened the plugs. You already removed the rear bracket - that's the hardest. Just 4 more bolts and 2 nuts holding the manifold in, which are easy to get to. And removing the throttle body is not that hard either. I did all this today on a 2012 Sienna taking about 2 hours (includes replacing throttle body gasket and manifold gasket, and cleaning).
Yes, it’s possible to torque the spark plugs and everything else probably with small torque wrench like this one: a.co/d/bDqogpW
Yes, you’re correct that it’s easier with the surge tank removed.
However the more parts removed the more potential for failure, IMO.
Removing the surge tank and the throttle body (if all the bolts not seized up) requires new gaskets replacement and gives a potential for parts falling into the intake manifold if not careful or well protected.
Great video, Mine is 2014, only about 95k km in Canada, but will do them per your method in summer 2024. Thank you.
Ok. Good luck! 🤞
Well done video and attention to details; and organization of parts and process is excellent. Not sure this always happens elsewhere……
Thank you!
Thank you... This is a much better option than removing the intake manifold.
Yes, for sure!
What a superior job on this maintenance. BIG Thanks for all the tips.
You are welcome!
Thanks!
one question though, for Toyota I always use metric like mm, first time hear people use inch. but, but you use NM instead of footLb. very interesting..lol
Not sure why but the Spark plug size is 5/8 (unless there’s a metric equivalent for standard 5/8” spark plug socket). Everything else on this Toyota is in Metric which is all in mm and NM. Later Toyota models would have 14mm spark plug socket size.
@@PTranProductions
5/8 is almost exactly 16 mm, 0.625 vs. 0.630
@TimAZ-ih7yb
You’re probably right. I just used the available spark plug socket in the socket set and 5/8” is one of the spark plug standard sockets in the set.
you from ontario too. i have a sienna and a rav4 both v6 3gr fe lol
Yes, lol is correct! Changing the spark plugs would be a pain in the *ss for you.
Good video sir. Mine is a 2011. Maybe change my plugs next Spring. She has 157,000 miles. I guess the plugs are iridium as they can go 120,000 between changes. Enjoy.
@157K miles, you’re over due for a spark plug replacement if you haven’t done so. Yes, 120k is the factory recommended interval.
So if you choose to do this method, be patient and work by feel for those on the back of the engine.
I don’t know man. If I’m going back there for plugs , I’m changing coils as well. Well worth the extra 20 minutes to take off the intake, then you can actually torque properly your plugs.
@thomasblanco4995
Of course, whatever way is easier for you indeed.
I didn’t replace the coils because there was nothing wrong with them.
Also for the economic stand point, those OEM coils are about $Cad 200 per piece (not recommended for aftermarket coils), so don’t need to replace if I don’t have to. I have seen Toyota’s running at least for 18 years on original coils. So I’ll see how long these Sienna coils will last.
Cheers! ✌️
@PTranProductions Hi, Sir! Can you give me part# or link to buy this socket and extension and wrench which you use for it? Or can I use standard set where is 1/2 and 1/4 wrenches with 2 long and short extensions????
@@thelensmax
My friend, there’s no specific part# for the tools required for this job. You need a standard 5/8 spark plug socket, 10” - 3/8” drive extension, 6” - 3/8” drive extension and a multipurpose DIY auto repair socket set for this job.
EMENTOL 6PCS 3/8" Drive Magnetic Swivel Spark Plug Socket Set, 12 Point, CR-V, Extension Sockets, Includes 9/16-inch, 5/8-inch, 13/16-inch, 14mm Sockets a.co/d/igd9yFB
If I knew it was this complicates just to change spark plugs on the rear, I would not have brought 2017 Toyota Sienna!
Yep! All the Toyota/Lexus V6 engines have this same configuration and it’s a pain in the ‘***’ to change the rear spark plugs or coils.
to be fair most transversely mounted v6 spark plug replacement sucks.
@@shix13
I guess so!
Honda V6 is not as bad
@@slacker_DIY
You’re correct! I used to have a 1999 Odyssey - changing spark plugs on that V6 was a piece of cake.
Nice good job🙂💚💛🧡
Thank you!
I'm a bit confused you don't need to remove all those things for spark plugs I just did it yesterday not saying it was with ease like my jeep is but you don't need to do all that none sense to replace the spark plugs with all due respect
There’s literally no room to work on the rear bank of these V6s. But if you can do it without removing a lot of parts then that’s good for you.
I'd like to see you remove the spark plugs in the rear without removing everything that's in the way. 😂🤡
I meant no harm just was raised to do things easier I'm sure manufacturing company has specific ways of doing things but stripping the whole front end of your car down to get too tiny spark plugs is not needed I did it just fine without that just think y'all should step back from the car and re look at your operating table there is an easier way to do it I know it's tempting to get the tools out and use them but work smarter not harder and key board warriors that call people clowns for finding better ways to do a job really do make videos like these off putting I'm just saying there better way to do it so just take that and move forward instead of attacking people who don't follow the path set forth by others
@@PTranProductionsso there is room to do it but I do have the advantage of having a lot of free time to do it and patience I wouldn't take apart the whole car to do the task throttle yes air case sure cover yes some of the tubbing fine but removing everything else is very off putting and it will free up space but with proper tools you can work around just about anything
@@andyleo8418 if you like you can get in touch with me I'll record the steps I did cause I am doing new plugs soon This summer I'll show you the steps now if you have larger then average arms it may not be possible for you im quite a smaller build so smaller spaces don't really effect me like most men in there 40s
Great Job !! How much 🤑would it cost to do this job?
Dealer cost: $600
@@PTranProductionsToyota of the Desert (California) $732
A ton of progress in the first 10 minutes.
How long did it really take you to complete the whole thing, I know you avoided removing the manifold.
It took me around 2 hrs.
@@PTranProductions Excellent thank you I will try it next weekend, just got a 2016 previous owner did everything at the dealer except for the spark plugs.. go figure.. I guess it's a $600 plus job. Thank you
@@playstereo
You are welcome!
Good luck!
@@PTranProductions Hello there, I tried for an hour to get my hand to the last spark plug it was impossible, There was not way to do this job without removing the air box and manifold. Once I removed it it was still hard to get to the first one, you needed a swivel adapter. I god the job done finally it took me 6 hours total. But thank you for the video I give you props.. is not easy to do it with the manifold still on.
@@playstereo
Well, it’s not easy but it’s doable.
As I mentioned in the video, all the rear spark plugs can only be done by feel. You don’t need a swivel socket if you had a 6” 3/8” drive extension. I did on this sienna and on the 2011 Lexus RX350 - without removing the surge tank.
Anyway, removing the surge tank would make life easier indeed and you got it done that way. Congrats!
Sorry, it didn’t turn out well for you this way.
Do you get experiences on removing the rear coil spring and rear axle? Thank you
I have never done for this van yet. So I don’t have any experience.
how long it took to get it done?
@@juanmoreno7565
About 2 hrs of labour.