First ten minutes summarized: Yoda: “What troubles you?” Anakin: “Palpatine is a Sith Lord.” Yoda: “Sure, are you?” Anakin: “Yes, Master.” Yoda: “Pulling up, I am.” Mace: “Yoda told me the news. Are you sure it’s true?” Anakin: “Yes, Master.” Obi-Wan: “Anakin, Cody told me you called. What’s wrong?” Anakin: “Palpatine is a Sith Lord.” Obi-Wan: “Are you sure?” Anakin: “Yes, Master.” Obi-Wan: “Imma pull up.”
Love how you play Sideous here. Not cracking or immediately buckling from confrontation and continuing to play along as the kind Chancellor. Quite tense during the senate meeting with the Jedi.
Before the Jedi spoke up, Anakin should had informed Padme and members of the security council first. As soon as Palpy mentioned that the Clone Wars' ending soon, one of the Senators like Padme should had spoken up and ask for a quick vote to remove Palpy's emergency powers. Anakin should be really pissed that the multiple assassination attempts on Padme had been due to Palpy all along. The same with the Jedi presenting that multiple times that there were attempts to diplomatically end the war, it seems like both sides wanted to extend it and Palpy actively rejected any peaceful resolutions to end it or at least stall for both sides to cease fire and talk.
Because Palpatine didn’t actually want Padme dead. It was all a ploy to get the one person that him and his master tried to create alone away from the Jedi counsel. Also Palpatine has a force ability to cloud the judgment of the entire Jedi counsel. Anakin still wasn’t strong enough to overcome that type of manipulation.
Actually, in the now-Legends novel "Labyrinth of Evil", some members of the Senate, members of the Petition of 2000, tried to convince Palpatine to give up some of his emergency powers.
Great story! I loved how calm and collected Palpatine was during the Senate session, at least outwardly. He's a master of deception and improvisation, and your writing shows that perfectly. You're my favorite SW what-if author :)
"As Jedi Masters, and Anakin.." Oof. I felt the sadness & frustration in that line that Anakin likely feels about not being granted the rank of Master.
I never understood why Yoda and Obi-Wan split up. They should have confronted Palpatine together and then confronted Anakin together. By splitting up, they gave away their advantage.
Obi wan in post material of ROTS movie has had a higher power ceiling. A common thing obi wan has was he was weaker towards his force protection. Initially in the 2000s It's how you saw him being knocked out by Dooku even when it was a 2 against 1. It's a weird rock paper scissors thing. Obi wan couldnt beat Dooku but Anakin did but yet obi wan beat Anakin.
Not really If Palpatine gets to win the clone wars as a Chancellor, he will have a lot of power and can continue influencing the Senate. Even if the Jedi are a thorn in his side, he still wields a massive amount of power and the Jedi cannot face him head on or they'll face order 66 anyway. And if there is one thing the Jedi are bad in, then its the 'ways of the dark side' The real problem Palpatine will be left with is that as Sidious, he won't ever be truly rid of the Jedi.
Yep. The flaw in this what-if is that he had the authority to pull the trigger on order 66 at any time. Goading the jedi into a move on him helped sell it politically afterwards, but that was an optional nicety to keep the win politically clean for him. If they'd waited this long to set up a counter-move, he'd have just given the order and tried to salvage the messy win after the fact. Surely he would have had fabricated evidence of a jedi 'conspiracy' as a backup plan.
There are fics about how Anakin is trained by Revan. But what if instead it was Obi-Wan who was trained by Revan's ghost? Maybe during the time when Obi-Wan was abandoned by Qui-Gon on Melida/Daan and took him as his apprentice, teaching him all he knew?
Mace: I heard you have informed Master Yoda of the recent relevations and I must thank you. Anakin: For what Master? Mace: I might have done something rash, like attempting to assassinate Palpatine and doom the entire order on the spot. I'm not as calm as I think I am after all.
The evidence against Palpatine had to be very solid. His identity as a Sith and him being one would not be something illegal and he would be able to easlity defend himself. Rather, the focus of the case would have to be on Palpatine being a traitor who collaborated with the enemy.
Anakin "Master Yoda, I have bad news" Yoda "Bad news, there is not. Just news, it is" Anakin "Chancellor Palpatine is the Sith Lord" Yoda "... Terrible news, that is"
Thanks for another good one Quill. I see you used Torben's lightsaber deflection footage for that scene with Palpatine in his office. I was thinking the actor who plays Torben would have been a perfect choice for young Sheev Palpatine. An Interesting coincidence.
Yea, wish we got more of him. I liked the Acolyte but by the end, everyone I really liked… became one with the force lol. I hope if we get a season 2 they focus on Vernestra Rwoh or [SPOILERS].
@@starwarsquill Definitely excited to see more of Vern, [Spoiler], and the Senator who I was surprised I'd end up liking. Sucks they killed a lot of favs tho but keeps everyone on their toes, that nobody is safe.
Very much like this story..but an added snippet of a twist would be better if it was; "Palpatine's LIGHTSABER..still clutched in his disembodied hand...".
So, if Anakin told Yoda this, we would not get Mace vs Palps, calm negotations, impossible plans which would lead to Empire never building up, Leia possibly never meeting Han and never getting Ben... and Snoke being in background (I refuse to believe Episode 9 stuff. Sue me) and trying to find a good plan to overthrown more powerful Jedi but all possibilities being useless. Fun.
Just a note for any "What if...?" stories that take place after the Prequel or Original Trilogies: The next major conflict, regardless of whether or not the Jedi Order fell would be the Yuuzhan Vong War, beginning in 25 ABY. And that Darth Krayt was operating in the shadows the entire time since becoming a Sith during the Clone Wars, finally attacking the Jedi around 41 ABY. And he would be a major threat for about the next 100 years.
Why would the Senate not ask for a midi-chlorian count of Palpatine just to see if he's lying? The only reason he would decline doing it is if he is a sith. There's no way you could tell me someone like padme or mon mothma wouldn't think of that.
This guy did another what if scenario if Anakin told Obi-Wan about Palpatine being Sidious. In that one, he straight up told the Senate that he is, in fact, the Sith lord; however, like the Jedi, it is a religious practice, and he implores all Senators that freedom of religion exists in the Republic
What is Obi-Wan got a call from Anakin during his fight with grievous and grievous heard Anakin say that palpatine is sidious causing them (Obi-Wan and grievous) to team up.
@@megavictor025 I agree that he wants to destroy the Jedi but I don't think he was aware that sidious and palpatine was the same. In the novel of the revenge of the sith he remarks why they kept palpatine alive.
I think it made sense for the story for him to have told a lesser member of the council, because he felt the more powerful members of the council were opposed to him, and so it would make sense for him to try to elevate someone potentially also opposed to the more powerful members.
I think Palpatine would have figured out that the Jedi aren't coming to kill him much sooner and would have put order 66 in motion long before the Jedi get to arrange an emergency council meeting.
@@BIGESTblade Except Artoo was already a known enemy to the Empire during the time of ROTJ (especially having already been a wanted droid during ANH). He couldn't sneak into the Imperial Palace anywhere near as easily as he could have snuck into the Chancellor's office during ROTS (as he was clearly Anakin's droid at that time, and of course Palpatine was attempting to turn Anakin to the Dark Side).
He has to wait. His plan hinged on the fact that the jedi would act first, he'd then react and paint them as the traitors. If he impatiently struck out first, preemptively executing order 66 for example, his entire reputation would be destroyed and he'd be fighting everyone, everywhere. He may have won still, but he'd be rebuilding his base of power for decades. What I find more likely, is that he would have immediately recognized the game was up and after a confrontation where the Jedi couldn't have found concrete evidence of him being Sidious, covered his tracks completely, have Maul executed, offered money out of his own pockets to rebuild the war torn systems and effectively gotten away with it all, to fight another day. Palpatine is a very patient man. His spy network would have immediately told him the Jedi were making moves separating them from their clones and converging to Curosant, immediately alerting him to the fact that they knew about the chip and any clones that would face him, would never react to order 66. Effectively meaning that if he ever would have a direct confrontation with the Jedi, he would lay low. He wouldn't reveal himself, he wouldn't order the clones to do anything. He wouldn't show his lightsaber. He'd simply tell them they had nothing, their case against him hinged on the musings of a deranged murderer and that he would give up emergency powers and use his resources and connections to rebuild he would also actually do this. The Jedi would be all over him for a while, but he effectively returns to being Palpatine, the benevolent senator with all the connections and personal wealth, so he can tell the Jedi order to get all the way off his back, while he works tirelessly cutting ribbons at orphanages, goes to war torn planets and gets his hands dirty. What he does, is that he continues manipulating Anakin's dreams, until Anakin goes on a rampage. He'll use that rampage to severely limit the Jedi movements and put all attention on them being troubled war heroes that need to be admitted to the psych ward or something. At this point Ankin may have also grown too strong and mentally cripple Palpatine to the point where he basically dies while no one is any the wiser. Or he may at this point become more brazen, because he's been doing all this good work, while the Jedi just started killing innocent civilians, because they can't cope with the fact that the war is over. Jedi are placed under house arrest or something. Kamino is destroyed in some "unexplained terrorist plot" and the clones that had gone in to get their chips removed are swiftly taken care of. Now with the Jedi council mostly out of his way, for """some mysterious reason""" terrorists keep blowing up shit and lo and behold, Detective Palpatine is on the case, killing the terrorists. The Senate gives him some special powers, not quite the position of Emperor, but he has free reign at least. He'll go back to the drawing board and create another enemy and war in another decade or so. Doesn't matter, Palpatine has all the time in the Galaxy because he remained patiënt when it seemed like he was cornered and did not act out rashly
Didnt tcw show us that they can determine whoever is using a hologram? And dont we also know that nute gunrays chair had recordings of sideous on it? Not to mention ones from dooku, grevious, etc.
you could have added in the end: "Anakin earned the complete trust of all jedi master during this ordeal, as the Jedi council elected to elevate him to the rank of Master. The decision was lead by Mace Windu, firstly supported by Yoda, then Obi Wan, as they've seen first hand Anakin overcome his turmoil, and remain to the light side. The jedi known to be rebellious, had remained calm, collected, and open to others advices and suggestions." it would also stand to reason that a result of all of this would bring a reform into the jedi's teaching. With all their emotion suppression also, can't clone troopers helm carry recording devices?
I think that the Jedi would have also consulted some of the senators that they know they can trust, such as Padme and Bail Organa where they would have been able to be better prepared for some of the counter-arguments against Palpatine's charismatic persuasions.
I could see the jedi reforming to be more open after this. Letting Anikan openly raise his kids, maybe let some jedi decide to be part time jedi and live their own lives. You could think either like a church where you volunteer and go to services but not necessarily be a full time pastor, or like the national guard where you have a civilian life and jedi training. And for the love of the force, please stop taking children to train, that's culty. let anyone join at any age but let them live with their family and just go to jedi school during the day. Oh and the jedi order itself should not be the republic law enforcement/ military, but individual jedi could go work for the republic under the republic's jurisdiction and not under the jedi order itself.
@@dannylopez5976 The jedi were too afraid of that happening which led to most of their problems and their downfall. With a proper balance I don’t think that would happen.
This is quite enjoyable and I appreciate the hard work that went into this video. IMO, there is just one possible flaw with your reasoning. Palpatine's plan hinged on provoking an aggressive and direct confrontation with the Jedi. Days pass between the time Palpatine reveals himself to Anakin and the Jedi bringing Maul and the separatists before the senate. I don't believe during that time that Palpatine would have done nothing. It would have been clear to him after, at most, a day that his ploy to provoke the Jedi had failed and he would have taken other measures. Palpatine is brilliant and has tremendous foresight.
Anakin - yo dude I need sus shit from papa palpatine dude knows the darkside . Yoda - yeah we’re fkd anakin dudes the senate . Anakin - aw come on man we’re smarter then this
I generally agree with you. Although I would change it slightly. I think the Jedi would have connected everything they knew about Sidious, Dooku, and the Sith and the Clones and figured out what was going on with the chips, they would have found out about the contingency orders and figured out how they could be used against the Sith. To that end, they decided to use a known friend of theirs Senator Padme to make their case before the senate and demand that the Chancellor be temporarily removed from the powers of his office until a trial could be held. This would prevent him from being able to execute Order 66. I see you also avoided discussing what would happen with Anakin. I think in the days following his revelation he would reveal the entire situation to Master Kenobi, and Kenobi as a friend and mentor would help him through it as things were going forward. Sensing Anakin letting go of his fear, the rest of the Council would recognize his path and that his great trial had been past. I think Anakin would have been made a Master. This would solidify his position within the light. The issue of his relationship with the Senator would be dealt with later. And I believe he would be permitted to attend the meeting with the Chancellor. Anakin's destiny was, in this timeline to destroy the Sith, and he would strike the final blow, not Yoda. And one more thing. I believe that the clones would have recorded their meeting with the Chancellor, via the clones, or with a hidden recorder, possibly broadcasting the entire conversation to Senators.
This is how your story with the jedi not knowing about the clones should have gone. All jedi were still dispersed with their clone units. All younglings were still at the temple when Yoda, Mace, Obi Wan and Anakin confronted Palpatine in his office. Palpatine knew he had the best light saber fighters against him. He did make one final plea to Anakin before he said his most famous words. "It's treason then." He called on his com link Execute Order 66, while the jedi flashed their sabers. He grinned and jumped out the window to escape. While the jedi had to look back and Yoda was the first one to decapitate their clone jailers. The jedi had a sudden alarm that they had to go back and protect the temple. So they fought their way through as clone commanders were walking their army pass the gates as one of the temple guards had betrayed the others. When the four main jedi came, there was a huge war going on inside the temple. They easily beat all the clones in front of them and turned the tide of the war. They were able to save the younglings and escape. Most of the older jedi were killed off, but all the younglings survived. With Mace, Obi Wan, Anakin, and Yoda in the lead, they went to a new location to rebuild their order as they now know that the Republic is now against them. End of story.
Great insight! Unfortunately it was Anakin's fate to be loyal to Palpatine at that moment because of the prophesy and he being the chosen one. He was the one that was to kill Palpatine to destroy the Sith as it happened in the original timeline.
If yoda stayed in coruscant, anakin would go to him not windu and yoda would arrest palpatine which would result in his death soon afterwards once his trial ends. Palpatine would not be able to escape this time nor change the battlefield and so yoda would defeat him as per canon
To this very day, I find it puzzeling, that it never occured to Anakin to talk to Padme about this. Not only is she his significant other, but she is also a seasoned politician. From all the people he should have asked for advise, it should have been her. Being a Jedi of incredible potential, all Anakin did was to ask people for advice that shared his very same worldview. Padme as a politician would've instantly realized the political implications and how Palpatine had manouvered himself into a position where the Jedi couldn't depose him using force.
This only works if Obi-Wan doesn't report the death of General Grievous, which ended the war and was the signal to the Emperor that it was time for Order 66.
Wouldn't Palpatine have the Inquisitors by now to protect him in times of being cornered like this? Also, wouldn't the Jedi not further question Maul on Palpatine on how to prepare themselves against him?
I don't think the Inquisitor existed at the time, they were no Jedi recruited by Sidious, nor force sensitives pupils ready at the time. Maybe calling them wasn't even relevant, as Sidious looked confident enough. And I'm pretty sure the Jedi did question Maul, and prepared themselves for this fight. Maul was still hating Sidious at the time. He was trained a Sith and would act like one. Not necessarily hating the Jedi, since "The enemy of my enemy is my ally", but he would give advice of a Dark Side user, which Jedi most likely wouldn't listen, as they were using patience, temperance and careful decisions, unlike Sith trained warrior would.
Anakin Skywalker should have told Padme about what palpy had said to him, he could have still been a jedi, if he never cut of Mace Windu hand he could of killed palpy
Or, as an extra piece, have Anakin take over Sideous' get-a-way shuttle from Mas Amedda (Anakin, not allowed to be one of the Jedi to confront Sideous sees Amedda acting suspiciously for some reason and takes over shuttle) and be waiting for him when and if he jumps out window and Anakin takes him out unexpectedly as payback.
As much as I like this alternative ending, I still think that the plot device called Inhibitor Chips are still bullshit. In the Legends novels, the Clones were conditioned and drilled to follow every order, no matter what. And out in the field, the Jedi were the SO's. But when the Order 66 came from Palpatine, the Clones knew that Palpatine was above the Jedi in the rank, and given their conditioning, especially after witnessing their brothers being killed whenever not following an order, they followed the Order. Imo, it should have been stated that the Clones or Windu would have said something like "You are no longer in control, Senator" (since Palpatine agreed to step down after the ending of the war originally). "Clones, open fire." And I am willing to die on that hill, that the implimantation of the Inhibitor Chips, is on par with the 'fact' that the Force comes through the Midichlorians.
i think that it would go a little difference bc force shenanigans so like they said that palps transferred his body into clones after he got killed in the death star, and the force likes balance, so i envision palps transferring into one of his clones, and getting some immensely powerful apprentice (bc there are so many powerful lightsiders at the time), before making some business connections, and then go full bossfight on the now battle hardened jedi of the next generation, in which the powerful light and dark sides clash and gruelingly whittle eachother down ending with most jedi dead, but also the end of the rule of two sith, leaving it at a somewhat similar endpoint to what we have now, though with the jedi order clinging onto its existance instead of functionally dead. itd be a cool story too see bc the darksiders that would arise to combat the entire jedi order after these events would be crazy strong and cool to see in action
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Thanks for the help, man :) Glad you liked the video :)
Good job bro
@@starwarsquill slay pookie
aninkin "i got bad news"
Yoda "there is no bad news there is just news"
aninkin "palp is the sith lord"
yoda "right thats terrible news!"
Anakin "I've got bad news"
Yoda "Bad news, there is not. Just news, it is"
Anakin "Palp is the Sith Lord"
Yoda "... Terrible news, that is"
No.
"Terrible news this is"
😂frfr
"is this news Terrible, "
That is bad news... If you don't believe that the Chosen One can defeat the Sith Lord.
"I am indeed the darkness that will destroy yo-."
"NUH-UH"
"The f*** you mean NU-"
Clones: "So anyway, I started blasting"
lmao
First ten minutes summarized:
Yoda: “What troubles you?”
Anakin: “Palpatine is a Sith Lord.”
Yoda: “Sure, are you?”
Anakin: “Yes, Master.”
Yoda: “Pulling up, I am.”
Mace: “Yoda told me the news. Are you sure it’s true?”
Anakin: “Yes, Master.”
Obi-Wan: “Anakin, Cody told me you called. What’s wrong?”
Anakin: “Palpatine is a Sith Lord.”
Obi-Wan: “Are you sure?”
Anakin: “Yes, Master.”
Obi-Wan: “Imma pull up.”
Look, sometimes, shit is just too wild not tell the whole squad.
“Are you certain?”
“Why does everyone keep asking me that?”
10:28
“As Jedi Masters- and Anakin”
Mate why’d you do him dirty?
And Ahsoka was there too so he wasn't the only one not a Jedi
He was declined a master card
@@RetroGamerBB I am sure he's happy with his Republic Express Card! Don't leave the temple without it!😛
@@RetroGamerBB this needs far more likes.
Because it was hilarious 😂
Love how you play Sideous here. Not cracking or immediately buckling from confrontation and continuing to play along as the kind Chancellor. Quite tense during the senate meeting with the Jedi.
Anakin- "Sidious is the sith Lord..."
Any Jedi - "Are you sure?"
Anakin- "I swear if one of you asks me if I'm sure one more time I'll join him."
Before the Jedi spoke up, Anakin should had informed Padme and members of the security council first. As soon as Palpy mentioned that the Clone Wars' ending soon, one of the Senators like Padme should had spoken up and ask for a quick vote to remove Palpy's emergency powers. Anakin should be really pissed that the multiple assassination attempts on Padme had been due to Palpy all along. The same with the Jedi presenting that multiple times that there were attempts to diplomatically end the war, it seems like both sides wanted to extend it and Palpy actively rejected any peaceful resolutions to end it or at least stall for both sides to cease fire and talk.
Because Palpatine didn’t actually want Padme dead. It was all a ploy to get the one person that him and his master tried to create alone away from the Jedi counsel. Also Palpatine has a force ability to cloud the judgment of the entire Jedi counsel. Anakin still wasn’t strong enough to overcome that type of manipulation.
Actually, in the now-Legends novel "Labyrinth of Evil", some members of the Senate, members of the Petition of 2000, tried to convince Palpatine to give up some of his emergency powers.
Great story! I loved how calm and collected Palpatine was during the Senate session, at least outwardly. He's a master of deception and improvisation, and your writing shows that perfectly.
You're my favorite SW what-if author :)
Glad you liked the video, man :)
I love Palpatine's reponse to the Jedi's accusations very calm very thought out you nailed Palpatine's personality very well. Good job.
"As Jedi Masters, and Anakin.." Oof. I felt the sadness & frustration in that line that Anakin likely feels about not being granted the rank of Master.
I never understood why Yoda and Obi-Wan split up. They should have confronted Palpatine together and then confronted Anakin together. By splitting up, they gave away their advantage.
because movie anh, esb and rotj were made prior to these movies, forcing the plot.
That's just the problem with most prequels in general. A lot of contrivence is necessary for the plot to progress.
I believe it's stated or implied somewhere that Obi-Wan wasn't powerful enough to be anything but a liability in a fight against the Emperor.
Obi wan in post material of ROTS movie has had a higher power ceiling. A common thing obi wan has was he was weaker towards his force protection. Initially in the 2000s
It's how you saw him being knocked out by Dooku even when it was a 2 against 1.
It's a weird rock paper scissors thing.
Obi wan couldnt beat Dooku but Anakin did but yet obi wan beat Anakin.
@@wb7585yhea I think that kinda adds to what the guy above you said
Meanwhile Palpatine in his office, "well, the Jedi sure are taking their sweet time to react... this does put a wrench in my plan..."
Not really
If Palpatine gets to win the clone wars as a Chancellor, he will have a lot of power and can continue influencing the Senate.
Even if the Jedi are a thorn in his side, he still wields a massive amount of power and the Jedi cannot face him head on or they'll face order 66 anyway.
And if there is one thing the Jedi are bad in, then its the 'ways of the dark side'
The real problem Palpatine will be left with is that as Sidious, he won't ever be truly rid of the Jedi.
Yep. The flaw in this what-if is that he had the authority to pull the trigger on order 66 at any time. Goading the jedi into a move on him helped sell it politically afterwards, but that was an optional nicety to keep the win politically clean for him. If they'd waited this long to set up a counter-move, he'd have just given the order and tried to salvage the messy win after the fact. Surely he would have had fabricated evidence of a jedi 'conspiracy' as a backup plan.
"The council chamber then fell into a tense silence as the Jedi Masters, and Anakin comntemplated the situation" xD
What if Sidious suffered a brain injury that resulted in him believing that he was merely a politician?
Now that's a video!
That’s Goku. If he didn’t hit his head he would’ve destroyed the earth
There are fics about how Anakin is trained by Revan. But what if instead it was Obi-Wan who was trained by Revan's ghost? Maybe during the time when Obi-Wan was abandoned by Qui-Gon on Melida/Daan and took him as his apprentice, teaching him all he knew?
Thanks for the help, Amy :) And thanks for the idea as well, it’s great and I’ll add it to my list :)
@@starwarsquill Thank you too and thakns for the amazing content ^^
@@AmyFlannigan27 :)
Mace: I heard you have informed Master Yoda of the recent relevations and I must thank you.
Anakin: For what Master?
Mace: I might have done something rash, like attempting to assassinate Palpatine and doom the entire order on the spot. I'm not as calm as I think I am after all.
13:55 Jedi Master May Swindle is my favorite character
I paused the video and looked for this comment😂
Why does that actually sound like a name a Star Wars character would have?
10:28 "jedi masters... and anakin" anakin wouldnt be too happy with that description haha
Tanalorr mentioned! Yeah baby!
I’m glad I found your channel. You are an excellent storyteller. 😮
The evidence against Palpatine had to be very solid. His identity as a Sith and him being one would not be something illegal and he would be able to easlity defend himself. Rather, the focus of the case would have to be on Palpatine being a traitor who collaborated with the enemy.
The Republic banned the Sith during the high republic era
Yeah the sith are an illegal organization. That in and of itself is enough for him to be charged with treason and executed at the least.
Anakin "Master Yoda, I have bad news"
Yoda "Bad news, there is not. Just news, it is"
Anakin "Chancellor Palpatine is the Sith Lord"
Yoda "... Terrible news, that is"
Thanks for another good one Quill. I see you used Torben's lightsaber deflection footage for that scene with Palpatine in his office. I was thinking the actor who plays Torben would have been a perfect choice for young Sheev Palpatine. An Interesting coincidence.
Yea, wish we got more of him. I liked the Acolyte but by the end, everyone I really liked… became one with the force lol.
I hope if we get a season 2 they focus on Vernestra Rwoh or [SPOILERS].
@@starwarsquill Definitely excited to see more of Vern, [Spoiler], and the Senator who I was surprised I'd end up liking. Sucks they killed a lot of favs tho but keeps everyone on their toes, that nobody is safe.
Lovely story. And finally a story where Agen Kolar doesn't get immediately trashed.
Or Shaak Ti dies again
Very much like this story..but an added snippet of a twist would be better if it was; "Palpatine's LIGHTSABER..still clutched in his disembodied hand...".
13:58 May Swindle, I literally looked at the captions the exact second that appeared oof
So, if Anakin told Yoda this, we would not get Mace vs Palps, calm negotations, impossible plans which would lead to Empire never building up, Leia possibly never meeting Han and never getting Ben... and Snoke being in background (I refuse to believe Episode 9 stuff. Sue me) and trying to find a good plan to overthrown more powerful Jedi but all possibilities being useless. Fun.
alwways fascinating listening to these "what if" scenarios, well done!
Just a note for any "What if...?" stories that take place after the Prequel or Original Trilogies: The next major conflict, regardless of whether or not the Jedi Order fell would be the Yuuzhan Vong War, beginning in 25 ABY. And that Darth Krayt was operating in the shadows the entire time since becoming a Sith during the Clone Wars, finally attacking the Jedi around 41 ABY. And he would be a major threat for about the next 100 years.
Why would the Senate not ask for a midi-chlorian count of Palpatine just to see if he's lying? The only reason he would decline doing it is if he is a sith. There's no way you could tell me someone like padme or mon mothma wouldn't think of that.
When has the Senate be smart?
This guy did another what if scenario if Anakin told Obi-Wan about Palpatine being Sidious. In that one, he straight up told the Senate that he is, in fact, the Sith lord; however, like the Jedi, it is a religious practice, and he implores all Senators that freedom of religion exists in the Republic
Having the midichlorians to be able to use the force doesn’t imply he was trained to use the dark side of it.
Niceness...riveting alternate versión
Well done
12:42 the question remains, what about the droid attack on the wookies?
*yoda turns his com off*
Yoda tells Commander Jet to execute order 66 anyway
Really like this tale of Anakin telling Yoda
God damn, this was good.
this was like an audiobook, W vid bro
Glad you liked it, man :)
Stay consistent on the work your doing with these fan fictions 🔥
Thanks :)
That was absolutely beautiful. New subscriber! Thank you.
What is Obi-Wan got a call from Anakin during his fight with grievous and grievous heard Anakin say that palpatine is sidious causing them (Obi-Wan and grievous) to team up.
That has no sense, griveus knew that palpatine is the sith lord, the unique griveus motivation is to destroy the jedi
@@megavictor025 I agree that he wants to destroy the Jedi but I don't think he was aware that sidious and palpatine was the same. In the novel of the revenge of the sith he remarks why they kept palpatine alive.
I think it made sense for the story for him to have told a lesser member of the council, because he felt the more powerful members of the council were opposed to him, and so it would make sense for him to try to elevate someone potentially also opposed to the more powerful members.
What if anakin died in revenge of the sith and was reborn with his memories and appearance (but he starts as a newborn obviously)
Now that’ll be interesting. Would he be light or Darkside Vader or Anakin?
@@A23-y7u i think that he would want to kill the emperor and have his revenge on obi
I think Palpatine would have figured out that the Jedi aren't coming to kill him much sooner and would have put order 66 in motion long before the Jedi get to arrange an emergency council meeting.
I really enjoyed this possible story line.. I love Alternate endings..you did a great job 🙂🙂🙂
What if Jedi realised Palpatine's trap but didn't have convincing evidence and were forced to coexist with the sith after the clone wars?
Artoo could download all of Palpatine's communication records with ease. There's lots of incriminating evidence there.
@@dionr1168 Were it so easy, all those Bothan spies wouldn't have had to die.
@@BIGESTblade Except Artoo was already a known enemy to the Empire during the time of ROTJ (especially having already been a wanted droid during ANH). He couldn't sneak into the Imperial Palace anywhere near as easily as he could have snuck into the Chancellor's office during ROTS (as he was clearly Anakin's droid at that time, and of course Palpatine was attempting to turn Anakin to the Dark Side).
@@dionr1168 More than one Chad droid in the galaxy.
I think the only problem with this very well written fiction is that there's no way Sidious would just wait for the Jedi to act once he told Anakin
He has to wait. His plan hinged on the fact that the jedi would act first, he'd then react and paint them as the traitors.
If he impatiently struck out first, preemptively executing order 66 for example, his entire reputation would be destroyed and he'd be fighting everyone, everywhere. He may have won still, but he'd be rebuilding his base of power for decades.
What I find more likely, is that he would have immediately recognized the game was up and after a confrontation where the Jedi couldn't have found concrete evidence of him being Sidious, covered his tracks completely, have Maul executed, offered money out of his own pockets to rebuild the war torn systems and effectively gotten away with it all, to fight another day.
Palpatine is a very patient man. His spy network would have immediately told him the Jedi were making moves separating them from their clones and converging to Curosant, immediately alerting him to the fact that they knew about the chip and any clones that would face him, would never react to order 66.
Effectively meaning that if he ever would have a direct confrontation with the Jedi, he would lay low. He wouldn't reveal himself, he wouldn't order the clones to do anything. He wouldn't show his lightsaber. He'd simply tell them they had nothing, their case against him hinged on the musings of a deranged murderer and that he would give up emergency powers and use his resources and connections to rebuild he would also actually do this. The Jedi would be all over him for a while, but he effectively returns to being Palpatine, the benevolent senator with all the connections and personal wealth, so he can tell the Jedi order to get all the way off his back, while he works tirelessly cutting ribbons at orphanages, goes to war torn planets and gets his hands dirty.
What he does, is that he continues manipulating Anakin's dreams, until Anakin goes on a rampage. He'll use that rampage to severely limit the Jedi movements and put all attention on them being troubled war heroes that need to be admitted to the psych ward or something. At this point Ankin may have also grown too strong and mentally cripple Palpatine to the point where he basically dies while no one is any the wiser.
Or he may at this point become more brazen, because he's been doing all this good work, while the Jedi just started killing innocent civilians, because they can't cope with the fact that the war is over.
Jedi are placed under house arrest or something. Kamino is destroyed in some "unexplained terrorist plot" and the clones that had gone in to get their chips removed are swiftly taken care of.
Now with the Jedi council mostly out of his way, for """some mysterious reason""" terrorists keep blowing up shit and lo and behold, Detective Palpatine is on the case, killing the terrorists.
The Senate gives him some special powers, not quite the position of Emperor, but he has free reign at least. He'll go back to the drawing board and create another enemy and war in another decade or so. Doesn't matter, Palpatine has all the time in the Galaxy because he remained patiënt when it seemed like he was cornered and did not act out rashly
I'm actually somewhat early for once, great video!
Didnt tcw show us that they can determine whoever is using a hologram? And dont we also know that nute gunrays chair had recordings of sideous on it? Not to mention ones from dooku, grevious, etc.
you could have added in the end: "Anakin earned the complete trust of all jedi master during this ordeal, as the Jedi council elected to elevate him to the rank of Master. The decision was lead by Mace Windu, firstly supported by Yoda, then Obi Wan, as they've seen first hand Anakin overcome his turmoil, and remain to the light side. The jedi known to be rebellious, had remained calm, collected, and open to others advices and suggestions."
it would also stand to reason that a result of all of this would bring a reform into the jedi's teaching. With all their emotion suppression
also, can't clone troopers helm carry recording devices?
I think that the Jedi would have also consulted some of the senators that they know they can trust, such as Padme and Bail Organa where they would have been able to be better prepared for some of the counter-arguments against Palpatine's charismatic persuasions.
I could see the jedi reforming to be more open after this. Letting Anikan openly raise his kids, maybe let some jedi decide to be part time jedi and live their own lives. You could think either like a church where you volunteer and go to services but not necessarily be a full time pastor, or like the national guard where you have a civilian life and jedi training. And for the love of the force, please stop taking children to train, that's culty. let anyone join at any age but let them live with their family and just go to jedi school during the day. Oh and the jedi order itself should not be the republic law enforcement/ military, but individual jedi could go work for the republic under the republic's jurisdiction and not under the jedi order itself.
Thats such a bad idea. Literally a conveyer belt for Dark Side users.
@@dannylopez5976 The jedi were too afraid of that happening which led to most of their problems and their downfall. With a proper balance I don’t think that would happen.
What if every single jedi turned to the dark side except Anakin
Having someone as strong on offense already in Mace and then Force Manipulation in Yoda....itd be like he was little Annie again lol
Not going to lie bro, this was a good what if, most what if fan theories I watch often feel pretentious or unoriginal but this one was great 👍
"Palpatine is the Sith Lord, he told me himself."
"Are you certain?"
"What part of 'Told Me Himself' evades comprehension here?"
This is quite enjoyable and I appreciate the hard work that went into this video. IMO, there is just one possible flaw with your reasoning. Palpatine's plan hinged on provoking an aggressive and direct confrontation with the Jedi. Days pass between the time Palpatine reveals himself to Anakin and the Jedi bringing Maul and the separatists before the senate. I don't believe during that time that Palpatine would have done nothing. It would have been clear to him after, at most, a day that his ploy to provoke the Jedi had failed and he would have taken other measures. Palpatine is brilliant and has tremendous foresight.
I liked this a lot. Nice work!
Anakin - yo dude I need sus shit from papa palpatine dude knows the darkside . Yoda - yeah we’re fkd anakin dudes the senate . Anakin - aw come on man we’re smarter then this
I generally agree with you. Although I would change it slightly. I think the Jedi would have connected everything they knew about Sidious, Dooku, and the Sith and the Clones and figured out what was going on with the chips, they would have found out about the contingency orders and figured out how they could be used against the Sith. To that end, they decided to use a known friend of theirs Senator Padme to make their case before the senate and demand that the Chancellor be temporarily removed from the powers of his office until a trial could be held. This would prevent him from being able to execute Order 66. I see you also avoided discussing what would happen with Anakin. I think in the days following his revelation he would reveal the entire situation to Master Kenobi, and Kenobi as a friend and mentor would help him through it as things were going forward.
Sensing Anakin letting go of his fear, the rest of the Council would recognize his path and that his great trial had been past. I think Anakin would have been made a Master. This would solidify his position within the light. The issue of his relationship with the Senator would be dealt with later. And I believe he would be permitted to attend the meeting with the Chancellor. Anakin's destiny was, in this timeline to destroy the Sith, and he would strike the final blow, not Yoda. And one more thing. I believe that the clones would have recorded their meeting with the Chancellor, via the clones, or with a hidden recorder, possibly broadcasting the entire conversation to Senators.
Within human speed genuinely comes across as dead slow... I know it's inhuman speed you intended but the subtitle took it as within
Yea the subs get wonkey sometimes:/
Thats why you set to stun. The circular beam is harder to deflect.
"It took all 4 of you to take me down?" Sidious left the game
Good what if's as always
35:40 *batman* I saw that!
This is how your story with the jedi not knowing about the clones should have gone. All jedi were still dispersed with their clone units. All younglings were still at the temple when Yoda, Mace, Obi Wan and Anakin confronted Palpatine in his office. Palpatine knew he had the best light saber fighters against him. He did make one final plea to Anakin before he said his most famous words. "It's treason then." He called on his com link Execute Order 66, while the jedi flashed their sabers. He grinned and jumped out the window to escape. While the jedi had to look back and Yoda was the first one to decapitate their clone jailers. The jedi had a sudden alarm that they had to go back and protect the temple. So they fought their way through as clone commanders were walking their army pass the gates as one of the temple guards had betrayed the others. When the four main jedi came, there was a huge war going on inside the temple. They easily beat all the clones in front of them and turned the tide of the war. They were able to save the younglings and escape. Most of the older jedi were killed off, but all the younglings survived. With Mace, Obi Wan, Anakin, and Yoda in the lead, they went to a new location to rebuild their order as they now know that the Republic is now against them. End of story.
Oh and one more thing as icing on the cake. The Grand Inquisitor is now Darth Sidios new apprentice leading all clones to fight the jedi. 😉
It's like the worse Hollywood gets, the better the RUclipss gets. Liked and subscribed
Great insight! Unfortunately it was Anakin's fate to be loyal to Palpatine at that moment because of the prophesy and he being the chosen one. He was the one that was to kill Palpatine to destroy the Sith as it happened in the original timeline.
If yoda stayed in coruscant, anakin would go to him not windu and yoda would arrest palpatine which would result in his death soon afterwards once his trial ends. Palpatine would not be able to escape this time nor change the battlefield and so yoda would defeat him as per canon
Damn this is good!
100% thought Ki-Adi was about to say but what about the Wookies(again)
I just want to say this is some great writing I love it very detailed. And would have been a cool ending to see happen in the said alternate time-line
"If it black it wears push it down the stairs"
Grandmaster Yoda probably
"and batman would remain alive and well" how sneaky of you lol
I feel like if the Jedi had decided to let the Bad Batch accompany them to Palpatine’s office as well, that would have been an awesome touch 🔥
100% this crossed my mind multiple times while debating with myself. Pretty sure they had a Great Role in deinhibiting the clones on Kamino
Excellent alternate history, but I think Palpatine would have sensed early on if the Jedi were on to him
One of your best!
pretty sure palpatine would’ve had a better plan than wait for the jedis to arrest him since here he has way more time to prepare
Disney need to do some Star Wars what if in the style of marvels what if
The amount of "There's something I need to tell you" makes this hard to take seriously.
i like how you dont go with the usual fanstory stuff making anakin seem like a god in your videos and pay attention to alot more canon details!
I like to imagine that palpetine gave anakin his visions in his dreams with his dark side mind manipulation powers dx.
To this very day, I find it puzzeling, that it never occured to Anakin to talk to Padme about this. Not only is she his significant other, but she is also a seasoned politician. From all the people he should have asked for advise, it should have been her. Being a Jedi of incredible potential, all Anakin did was to ask people for advice that shared his very same worldview. Padme as a politician would've instantly realized the political implications and how Palpatine had manouvered himself into a position where the Jedi couldn't depose him using force.
Ah, the "Jedi Masters + Anakin Council"!
Such a stable as heck institution ;)
Take a seat, you must. A master you are not.
My brain has come up with like 4 different accents in your voice
Mace Windu... overlooking the window escape route. He just can't escape it, can he? LOL
This only works if Obi-Wan doesn't report the death of General Grievous, which ended the war and was the signal to the Emperor that it was time for Order 66.
Wouldn't Palpatine have the Inquisitors by now to protect him in times of being cornered like this?
Also, wouldn't the Jedi not further question Maul on Palpatine on how to prepare themselves against him?
I don't think the Inquisitor existed at the time, they were no Jedi recruited by Sidious, nor force sensitives pupils ready at the time. Maybe calling them wasn't even relevant, as Sidious looked confident enough.
And I'm pretty sure the Jedi did question Maul, and prepared themselves for this fight. Maul was still hating Sidious at the time. He was trained a Sith and would act like one. Not necessarily hating the Jedi, since "The enemy of my enemy is my ally", but he would give advice of a Dark Side user, which Jedi most likely wouldn't listen, as they were using patience, temperance and careful decisions, unlike Sith trained warrior would.
What if Palpatine was actually Jar Jar's apprentice??
I liked this what-if scenario well done
What if Anakin told Ahsoka first about palpatine being sidious?
Palpatine; "in my library there are, at most, two books worth reading"
Anakin Skywalker should have told Padme about what palpy had said to him, he could have still been a jedi, if he never cut of Mace Windu hand he could of killed palpy
Or, as an extra piece, have Anakin take over Sideous' get-a-way shuttle from Mas Amedda (Anakin, not allowed to be one of the Jedi to confront Sideous sees Amedda acting suspiciously for some reason and takes over shuttle) and be waiting for him when and if he jumps out window and Anakin takes him out unexpectedly as payback.
As much as I like this alternative ending, I still think that the plot device called Inhibitor Chips are still bullshit.
In the Legends novels, the Clones were conditioned and drilled to follow every order, no matter what. And out in the field, the Jedi were the SO's.
But when the Order 66 came from Palpatine, the Clones knew that Palpatine was above the Jedi in the rank, and given their conditioning, especially after witnessing their brothers being killed whenever not following an order, they followed the Order.
Imo, it should have been stated that the Clones or Windu would have said something like "You are no longer in control, Senator" (since Palpatine agreed to step down after the ending of the war originally). "Clones, open fire."
And I am willing to die on that hill, that the implimantation of the Inhibitor Chips, is on par with the 'fact' that the Force comes through the Midichlorians.
Yeah, I prefer the "they were only following orders" thing.
i think that it would go a little difference bc force shenanigans
so like they said that palps transferred his body into clones after he got killed in the death star,
and the force likes balance, so i envision palps transferring into one of his clones, and getting some immensely powerful apprentice (bc there are so many powerful lightsiders at the time), before making some business connections, and then go full bossfight on the now battle hardened jedi of the next generation, in which the powerful light and dark sides clash and gruelingly whittle eachother down ending with most jedi dead, but also the end of the rule of two sith, leaving it at a somewhat similar endpoint to what we have now, though with the jedi order clinging onto its existance instead of functionally dead. itd be a cool story too see bc the darksiders that would arise to combat the entire jedi order after these events would be crazy strong and cool to see in action
Yoda speaks in OSV for emphasis on his words, if he needs to be quick he’ll use SVO. After the subject, the verb always is.
great video
What if Qui won was named chancellor after the blockade on naboo
Are you suggesting that Qui Gon and Obi Won did the fusion dance for this what if?
@@Eliezar18 oh no, just writing on the train xD, i write bad
@@Eliezar18 "I am Qui-Won Jinnobi! It's over, Maul! I've come for you! Every force you create has an echo!"
@@stevenyee1055 It's over Anakin, the force is strong with me and so is the high ground.
What I was expecting was that when the Jedi Masters met Chancellor Palpatine, several senators would also be in attendance as witnesses/mediators.