Check out the live session we recorded of the tune “Drunk!” Also make sure to subscribe to Shawn's channel, he drums really good. ruclips.net/video/0BRxDp2u02U/видео.html Also, if you dig what we do, presave our upcoming EP, out Jan.7. Thanks guyz! distrokid.com/hyperfollow/sungazer/fCQR
I dunno half of the s**t you just said but my non-musically trained brain says it makes sense and I'm sold. The metronome made me go, "ahhhh... okay. I see."
@@severalwolves Well, to me, it's the other way around - i enjoy the trick more when I learn how much thought, creativity and what tools went into bringing it to life. Not to mention how helpful this channel is for music interested in or learning music theory/composition.
@@reedy_9619 I would argue repetition reinforces, but if the idea you're trying to impose doesn't work in the musical situation then it sticks out even more.
Reedy_ Agreed. The only reason I said anything is because I hear a lot of jazz musicians saying that’s how you can recover from a mistake, and I find that mentality a little flawed.
@Hichard Rammond Ah yes, James May would surely agree. He's the one that likes *SMOOTH JAZZZ* Either that, or it was on Jeremy's list of things James May does not want to do in case of future episodes with that segment.
Boiled Egg i think he is right, the first drunken beats by JDilla certainly sound glitchy, but they are not thinked in quintuplets for sure. Not that is a bad thing, but they definetly feel different.
I think I've found the second nicest comment on the internet. The nicest comment I've ever seen is the entire medieval Halo theme video comment section.
do you think adam knows his videos are extremely watchable for people who don't know shit about music. i've been sitting here for 15 minutes and i don't have a goddamn clue what he's talking about but by god it's mesmerizing.
+1 man, i shit-played piano for several years and would not want to think of it ever again.. but I really enjoy watching him talk about this stuff, it might even bring me back to studying musical theory (which I hated back in the days btw). Adam's awesome
I love how we've gone from an era when jazz musicians played a bit dirty because it wasn't important to be perfect, to an era where overly educated musicians play obnoxiously clean, and now those same musicians are perfectly emulating the dequantized style introduced by electronic music producers
@@andyedwards9011 I just figured since he was going on and on about music terms i didn't even have a clue about that he was the overly educated musician
Well that's all a matter of perspective, though, isn't it? You can't be inside the head of every musician so it's kinda fragile logic to be making such claims. For instance, I learned about these kind of grooves because I learned most of my musicianship from a primarily west African drum circle, where we played a lot of polyrhythms & even on some samba the bell parts are usually tuplets of one kind or another, so if you're playing the dunduns & the bell @ the same time (common in my experience), youre usually counting in 3 and in 7, but the djembe parts are often in 3, 4, or 5. And that shit and music like it is way older than jazz or even "classical"
There are so many better options out there for time signatures. A desperation to rebel to seem edgy does not fit into music like it does into other media.
@@an_annoying_cat what do you mean. If 4/4 conveys what a composer wants in his piece, then let him use 4/4. To switch up the time signature of your song just so you're different might at the least confuse the people reading the music, and at the worst, take away from the music.
4/4 Still my favorite by far. There's stuff like 3/4 that sounds just as natural to me, but 4/4 JUST GOES It just has a certain kind of strong and steady momentum to it, I wonder if it feels the same way to at least some people who didn't grow up on it. Even if you're all about weird time signatures and going from one to the other, you should see how good it can be to land on 4/4, for like the chorus, and how the weird ones can sound even more pleasingly off-balance coming out of it. I had a realization the other day, 4 measures of 3 equals 3 measures of 4, you can have a waltzing element be a constant pulse on a 3 bar 4/4 section and keep it a constant even when transitioning in or out of a waltz, no cut of the pattern at the end to make it fit. Had a waltzing bass solo playing a simple pattern with the 1, 4 and 5 for 4 measures, with the 1 always on 1st measure, then I throw in drums and chords in a 3 bar 4/4 pattern and suddenly the note on each first measure varies, it grooves so hard.
Awesome stuff Adam! I love how you're incorporating more 'hands on' creative music making within your videos, like the demo of the musicality of repeats. Makes for a perfect combo of entertainment and education. Love it! (And Sungazer sounds awesome too!). Also agreed on Collier - I'm annoyed how much I like that With Love in My Heart track!
You two should finally do a crossover episode, since you have probably the best channels on music theory on youtube! Btw, I watch yours quite regularly, but today I'm binge watching your old videos and I'm quite surprised how much of Polish influences there are in your music.
David Bruce, you inspire me a lot in my journey to be a composer with every video you post. Well, I have the inspiration, only 8 years more of school haha. Great day!
**Repetition Legitimizes** **Off Kilter** **Tuplets** **J-Dilla!** **Great Video** Also kinda funny that Santana's Masterclass Ad follows you Adam. You keep being awesome.
LimeGreenTeknii no. Funny joke but no. Lofi hip hop is a very vanilla extremely straight form. Whenever I hear lofi cats they have virtually no swing that feels natural or genuine. Swing isn’t just dragging a hit hat
I think a lot of musicians don't necessarily realize when they're doing "micro-rhythmic blurring" kinda like how most people don't notice when they're converting base numbers to do math. It's only when analyzing it after the fact that you realize just how interesting it is.
Or how people don't realize when they switch from a 1st to 2nd conditional. Why is "I Second that Emotion" in first conditional but "Santeria" in second conditional?
@@KOSMIKFEADRECORDS In English, when we talk about probable events in the future, we use the future tense. When we talk about improbable events in the future, we use the past tense. "If I go to the store, I will buy bread" is first conditional. "If I went to China, I would see the Great Wall" is second conditional. We do this so automatically we don't think about it, and we also don't think about the fact we are using the past tense to talk about the future. But which form we uses changes the emotional tone we use. So when Smokey Robinson says "If you feel like giving me a lifetime of devotion..." he is using the first conditional. He finds the possibility realistic, even if it is not assured. But Bradley Nowell saying: "If I had a million dollars, I would spend them all", means that he is talking about impossibilities. His revenge fantasies to him are just fantasies, him talking about an impossible situation.
I'm fine, Adam. Thank you for asking. Started playing trumpet quite recently. I'm not a musician. More of a mortgage methodologist / quality assurance engineer, but I studied in a jazz studio several years ago. Your videos came quite handy in the last few weeks. You give a very warm feeling that music is not a competition, but art, self expression, deep and profound research of who we are and what we are up to. I, honestly, become acquiainted with your channel through Simon Fransman's gorgeous memes. And I'm extremely grateful that you gents created so wholesome and beautiful community of people who care about music, adore it and share their understanding and perception with everyone else. This is extraordinary valuable. Thank you very-very much.
Adam, this video is great on so many levels. The explanation of these "sloppy beats" was an eye opener to me. Paired with your sense of humour and your musical output it is absolute fun to watch your videos. Make sure your EP will also be on the streaming services. You got one listener for sure ;-).
Imagine getting called for a gig and they tell you like: it's gonna be fine, we got it all written out, you just have to read and then they email you this 04:44
4:03 - Jacob Collier - "That guy is like... REALLY obnoxiously good at music! I couldn't agree more. Jacob is the Mozart of our generation.... if Mozart played 300 instruments at a professional level and had the internet at his disposal.
Mozart DID play every instrument at top level, but yes: he had no internet. As good as Collier is, he is far from being comparable to Mozart: i would not even say he is the Stevie Wonder of our generation. He's an extremely talented musician on his own, and that's more than enough.
Yeah I feel like this is an exaggeration. Jacob is an excellent musician in his own right but comparing him to someone so monumentally influential as Mozart sounds ignorant of either Mozart or Jacob, or both.
@Mark Donald the lofi 24 hour music for study he played in the video: if you watch closely you can see he changed the name of the video "smooth Jazz for millennial's"
I was like 9-10 years old when I played piano for my musical course in front of my parents and a lot of others. And suddenly I made a mistake. I wasn't panicking, and I continued playing. But when I repeated the same measure again, I felt like it seemed "right" to play it again "wrong". It was my way to make it feel like it wasn't an error, but something like a flavour I was adding. Being 20 and asking myself about what I was thinking 10 years ago make me realise that something I wasn't aware of made me feel like I was always in control. Now, watching your video and listening to those magical words "repetition legitimize" and "repetition is the key to the human intent" had me in a beautiful jump in the past. Thanks to have proven me that I wasn't doing wrong for the sake of being crazy, but instead because it was a rightful way of behave. Thank you, Adam.
Adam I know this is an old video so there's a very small chance that you'll see this but I just really wanted to say thank you for introducing me to Jacob Collier. I've been watching your videos for years so I always watch the newest one right away, and that afternoon when this video came out, I was watching it like normal until I got to the Jacob Collier part. My mind was blown for about 4 seconds and I just needed so see where that was coming from. I finished the video then searched up Jacob Collier With The Love In My Heart and was introduced to a new, almost unclassifyable genre of music that I had never heard before. I almost immediately got into his other music and the June Lee transcriptions/interviews and I just went crazy over the fact that this kind of thing was happening in the same world that I live in. That interest grew into a full on obsession and after squeezing out all the music theory I can from him, I started to become genuinely inspired to do my own similar things. I started by transcribing 6 of his Djesse Vol. 2 songs which was fun and then I realized that I could make music like that too, so now I have this long chapter of my life to look forward to, even at 15 years old. I'm happier now than I've ever been because of all these new feelings I'm getting from music and it's so wonderful! I'm sorry to put a praise of JC on your video but if you hadn't made such great content that kept me around for all these years, it might have been years till I found him. So thank you so much for being the reason that I've started this new era and found new love for music! I hope you have a wonderful life!
@@libertarious My bet is that he'll be completely forgotten just like every other soulless musical savant before him. He's a musical genius devoid of artistry. Could be a great teacher though.
13:20 Hilary Hahn once said: "I cannot get lost in the music, since I'm the one producing it. It would be like driving with your eyes closed." But I guess that's a different genre.
I don't know much about music, I first heard about her on the TwoSet channel. Then I started to listen to her records and woah. How can she play like that!!! Goosebumps!
Momo's not a musician... That all being said, I'm not sure if I'm happy or mad that I just found out about Collier!?! (it's probably the normal response... for musicians) ;) -sorry momo, couldn't help myself
@@JonnyKaine It's not indeed. But it's hard not to sadmit how easy it has been for Collier to learn to play various intruments, recording, mastering, and also sharing music.
Poizin Rath It's called intellectual curiosity. I watch orgy videos yet have never participated in one and have no desire to. It's called intellectual curiosity.
I bought the simplest musical instrument, the woodblock, which costs like 5 dollars and takes 2 minutes to learn to play. And just from practicing that I can understand a lot of this conceptual stuff a lot better.
As a kid my mother and her clique of friends were heavy drinkers, so being a child surrounded by and under the guardianship of very drunken adults I would experience a fair bit of anxiety, and hearing Sungazer's 'Drunk' tune somewhat evokes in me that same old kind of anxiety, so I suppose it really has captured the essence of drunkedness. It is a great tune though.
So this is the video that introduced me to Jacob Collier and his music. I’d heard of him before, namely June lee’s interviews, but I’d never actually heard his music before. I’ve fallen in love with his music, his vibes, his energy. Because of this video I went to my first big name concert ever. What a magical experience it was to see Collier and his friends play live. Thank you Adam. You have inadvertently changed my life
this explains me drunk so well - when i go to the bar, i'l be like 12:45 , after first beer 11:04 after a few more beers i talk like 6:28 and think 2:57 , after a few too many i go home like this 0:08 and when i get home and my wife gets mad, i wish i could be as apologetically articulate as 13:08 but all i get from her complaining is 2:34. oh yeah, and next day to myself 14:31
I'm good, Adam, thanks for asking. Also, just in case y'all don't want to pause the video at one exact frame in 10:39, here's the text: For example, it's actually a G7 at the top of the "Is That All There Is" chorus, so technically at most it's now tonicizing C major, only two steps removed from Bb in the circle of fifths, not three like I just said. It actually eventually tonicizes at C minor. The whole tune ends in G minor, which is the minor relative of Bb, so its debatable if there was ever any modulation to begin with, but here's the thing... The analysis is "wrong", but I'm giving you the inspiration behind the choice. I was inspired to do a modulation to a "brighter" key in the chorus by the feeling it inspired in this one particular song by Peggy Lee. Analysis can exist on many levels, and the more ways you can analyze a thing, the better you'll come to know it. Also, hi, how are you? Thanks for pausing this video. I hope you are enjoying it.
Damn.. I've listened to Drunk by sungazer so much lately, and I love the 'drunk feeling'. Hearing it with the metronome made me feel so sober. Like gaining a superpower of oversight
Your videos may prove to be the inspiration I've needed to cough up the money for a music education. These analyses (and your masterful editing) keep things fresh as I listen to otherwise familiar music.
Adam, I got started watching your videos a month or two ago when I watched "a day in the life of a working musician". I was intrigued by your many abilities and now am so glad I found you. I love your thoughtful and enchanting delivery. It would be easy to make another channel where you just spit out information. (Which you certainly do.) But you take a topic like "How to play music with a drunk feel" and turn it into something so meaningful. (depending on your definition of meaningfulness :)) Well done. I like it when I see someone who actually cares about what they're doing. Someone who digs and passionately and explores the reasons for things. Keep inspiring. Keep believing. Keep meaning. May God continue to bless you.
I'm good. Thanks for asking. "for example, it's actually a G7 at the top of the "It That All There Is" chorus, so technically at most it's now tonicizing C major, only two steps removed from Bb in the circle of fifths, not three like I just said. It actually eventually tonicizes C minor. The whole tune ends on G MINOR, the relative minor of Bb, so its debatable if there was ever any modulationto begin with, but here's the thing.... the analysis is "wrong," but I'm giving you the inspiration behind the choice. I was inspired to do a direct modulation to a "brighter" key in the chorus by the feeling it inspired in this one particular song by Peggy Lee. Analysis can exist on many levels, and the more ways you can analyze a thing, the better you'll come to know it. also, hi, how are you? thanks for pausing the video. I hope you are enjoying it." - @10:39
Man, I've really taken a liking to the videos on your channel. It's just what I needed to help guide me in learning and understanding music theory. Love the tunes, too! Also, I definitely paused and read that whole thing as I absolutely adore single frame messages!
Hi, I'm doing fine. Yes, I'm enjoying the video. I appreciate the difference between how you're hearing your reference material--it's effect on you--and how the musical analysis works. Composers can be quite clever when they want to get away with writing a motif that their peers would consider "wrong." Best! :)
I've not watched all your videos but this is my favorite of the many I've watched to date. A great intersection of theory, feel, and just being human. Loved it.
adam leaving cute messages to all the nerds who paused to figure out why the move to the chorus didn’t quite feel like a jump three spaces around the circle
The Jacob Collier song he shows actually does that along with the grouping of 7 - he doesn't show it, but in the actual song that section is at 73.8 bpm coming from 123 bpm - a perfect 5:3 ratio. So he's doing septuplets in a 5:3 polyrhythm. What a guy.
Actually you're mixing straight and swing and making a "strung" feeling. You're basically in the middle of straight and swing. 5=2+3 2 being straight, 3 being swung
Definitely liked the digression into the pedantic world of music analysis. Keep being awesome at explaining this incredibly nerdy music stuff to those of us who are just dipping our toes in the water.
just practice in 3 and 5 and you can make any grouping you want really. 3+3+3+4 you can play stuff like 19/8 5+5+5+4 or 3+4+3+3+3+3 it's just maths man
It's important to keep in mind that time signatures, tempos and note rates (like tuplets) are all just a way of conceptualizing when to hit shit, something demonstrated pretty nicely here where they translate 9-tuplets into triplets in 3/4. With that in mind if you get a firm grasp on odd time signatures then it's just a matter of getting them up to speed to be able to translate that into really deep and weird tuplets. So basically what Protoka is saying but a bit more explicit, 19/8 and 19-tuplets are different but if you play 19/8 fast enough it becomes synonymous with a 19-tuplet.
Good job on the video Adam. I like the cutting to the outdoor footage to keep things interesting. It's inspiring me to do an essay style video on some drum topic. Also if you're not hip to Zach Danziger, get hip to him. I'm betting you're familiar with him though. Thanks for the vid.
Excellent analysis of that lopsided lo-fi feel. As a bass player and electronic composer, this analysis has brought a “production technique” some real live performance value
Adam always putting a nice message at the end of any longer text explanations in his videos is rather lovely and I enjoy it greatly, as I do the rest of the videos 10:39
I'm doing wonderful Adam, thanks for asking! I am indeed enjoying this video in the middle of my quarantine a year and some change after it came out. Love your stuff!
Hey Adam, you should check out he 3rd movement of Béla Bartók's 5th string quartet. It features a bulgarian 4+2+3 rhythm coupled with multiple divisons of 10/8 bars and explores it both harmonically and rhythmically while tying it all together with a single melodic idea.
An example for the repetition of "mistakes" is also Etude Op. 25, No. 5, "Wrong Note" by Chopin. The repetition also applyies to listening to the piece multiple times, making you think less and less about the "Wrong Notes" Very interesting Video :)
I am currently writing a piece without a meter entirely... but i've got 7/8 behind me now too + in that piece I've used the piano's white keys exclusively
Like a recitative? Hm, Not really, i think... the non-metric piece i was talking about sounds more like a slow, calm, free and progressively tonal improvisation, if that makes sense...
@@joechip1232 Yeah, odd meters are everywhere if you know where to look. Them Bones by Alice in Chains is another example of grooving rock in seven. It even shows up in pop, for example Always by Erasure has a bar of 5/4 in the chorus.
Even more fun is the interaction between players in a drunk feel. Getting the bass and keys to line up just right (i.e. consistently wrong) is so satisfying, trying to imitate the way J Dilla would have jazz samples come in late
it's really interesting to finally be able to quantify off-beat rhythms! i also quite like the reference to that one live stream channel everyone seems to play while studying or at a shop, which comes full-circle in some way because so many lo-fi tracks feature The Lick in one form or another!
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Check out the live session we recorded of the tune “Drunk!” Also make sure to subscribe to Shawn's channel, he drums really good.
ruclips.net/video/0BRxDp2u02U/видео.html
Also, if you dig what we do, presave our upcoming EP, out Jan.7. Thanks guyz!
distrokid.com/hyperfollow/sungazer/fCQR
Did I achieve a semi-"drunk" sound on my cover of I'd Rather Go Blind? I'd love your input.
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What was that one Jacob Collier song question mark?
I dunno half of the s**t you just said but my non-musically trained brain says it makes sense and I'm sold. The metronome made me go, "ahhhh... okay. I see."
That's very impressive, but can you play bass with cutlets?
Frank Zappa quote: “If you make the same mistake three times, thats an arrangement"
Repetition legitimizes
I’m moving to Montana real soon,
I’m gonna be a dental floss tycoon
It's from Jorma Kaukonen actually
Me: *to my Piano teacher* See sir? I was meant to do that! ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Thelonius Monk said "If you make a mistake, just repeat it and nobody'll be able to tell" ;)
I love how Adam explains complicated rhytms and patterns. At least now I can understand what I can't play.
and why im drunk right now... its meant to be
u can pal, i believe in ya
i love how adam explains chords
at least now i can understand...well...still nothing
I kinda hate this channel, in the same way a magician would hate a channel that explains how to do various illusions >:(
@@severalwolves Well, to me, it's the other way around - i enjoy the trick more when I learn how much thought, creativity and what tools went into bringing it to life. Not to mention how helpful this channel is for music interested in or learning music theory/composition.
I thought I was a bad drummer. Turns out I'm a niche drummer.
This needs all the upvotes lol!!
Just a friendly reminder you're not on reddit
it just would be... you know.... reddit?
Now, RUclips with 4Chans community, thats what I would pay for to see
HAHAHAHAHA
If I hear Adam say "repetition legitimizes" one more time, I'm going to start thinking it's true.
Kinda is
@@reedy_9619 I would argue repetition reinforces, but if the idea you're trying to impose doesn't work in the musical situation then it sticks out even more.
Xitlalic yeah if it doesnt work at all you ll just seem weird
Reedy_ Agreed. The only reason I said anything is because I hear a lot of jazz musicians saying that’s how you can recover from a mistake, and I find that mentality a little flawed.
tfw nobody gets the joke
Random Guy: Too bad it's only in 4/4
Adam Neely: 『Ｄｏ ｙｏｕ ｅｖｅｎ ＪＡＺＺ？』
@Hichard Rammond Ah yes, James May would surely agree. He's the one that likes *SMOOTH JAZZZ*
Either that, or it was on Jeremy's list of things James May does not want to do in case of future episodes with that segment.
I L I K E J A Z Z Z Z Z
Don’t worry it was just massive Tory arsehole Jeremy Clarkson
I don’t understand why being in 4/4 is bad
Ya like Jazz? 🐝
I love how the drunk drumming is harder than regular drumming. So if you want to sound like you’re playing bad, you need to play very well.
@monokhem it really is (assuming you mean playing in tuplets)
@monokhem judging by the examples Adam played for us, they seemed pretty consistent.
@monokhem who are "they", "the examples", and "his drummer"?
monokhem make you own video exposing this guy or no balls
Boiled Egg i think he is right, the first drunken beats by JDilla certainly sound glitchy, but they are not thinked in quintuplets for sure. Not that is a bad thing, but they definetly feel different.
**laughs in septuplets**
**breathes in off-beat triplets**
*hyperventilates rhythmically*
*speaks in invertible counterpoint*
*_*blinks in 19/16_**
*Closed eyes in Polyrhythm*
@@depthshade837 I just tried a 5 over 4 with my eyelids but they aren't loud enough and they've got no tone.
Adam 1 month ago: *Play sober*
Adam now: *Play drunk*
The hangover is over, I guess.
Jacek Konieczny nah playing hungover is next!
Play DRUNK sober, unless you play it drunk.
😂😂😂😂
Luke C I’m 4 sober, like always. L-i-k-e.
When I gig drunk I sometimes skip a whole verse, does that count?
As long as you repeat it...
@keu_per 2 Because you are a smart and wonderful person. :)
@@nimugonz9226 You are a wholesome man too.
I think I've found the second nicest comment on the internet. The nicest comment I've ever seen is the entire medieval Halo theme video comment section.
Jazz
Speed up during the chorus and slow down for the verses.
That's what my old drummer did when he drank.
Sounds like something I would do sober
I can't play drunk grooves until I'm 21
🤣
in australia you start college at 18
🤣 18 in the uk
Yeah I did it before that but now I’m LEGALLY playing drunk grooves. Hahahahaha
I'm still a year away from playing drunk grooves, pretty excited bout it
do you think adam knows his videos are extremely watchable for people who don't know shit about music. i've been sitting here for 15 minutes and i don't have a goddamn clue what he's talking about but by god it's mesmerizing.
Chase Collins lol it's ok you're not alone but still a very interesting video.
+1 man, i shit-played piano for several years and would not want to think of it ever again.. but I really enjoy watching him talk about this stuff, it might even bring me back to studying musical theory (which I hated back in the days btw). Adam's awesome
That's a good point. He really is that good at what he does.
It's mesmerizing because you subconsciously know it's informative and you're trying to figure it out
Dude launch a video given you advice about playing sober and the next month he is teaching you about how to play with a drunk feel.
Genius
Apparently the trick is to sound drunk when sober and sound sober while drunk.
String Theory Presidential material.
I love how we've gone from an era when jazz musicians played a bit dirty because it wasn't important to be perfect, to an era where overly educated musicians play obnoxiously clean, and now those same musicians are perfectly emulating the dequantized style introduced by electronic music producers
Are you saying Adam is one of those overly educated musicians
@@jacobkudrowich No, I haven't heard Adam solo that much tbh
@@andyedwards9011 I just figured since he was going on and on about music terms i didn't even have a clue about that he was the overly educated musician
Yeah, I kinda felt like that "naw, he just didn't read the manual" comment was underappreciated.
Well that's all a matter of perspective, though, isn't it? You can't be inside the head of every musician so it's kinda fragile logic to be making such claims. For instance, I learned about these kind of grooves because I learned most of my musicianship from a primarily west African drum circle, where we played a lot of polyrhythms & even on some samba the bell parts are usually tuplets of one kind or another, so if you're playing the dunduns & the bell @ the same time (common in my experience), youre usually counting in 3 and in 7, but the djembe parts are often in 3, 4, or 5. And that shit and music like it is way older than jazz or even "classical"
"That guy is like really obnoxiously good at music" (4:09)
-Adam Neely on Jacob Collier, 2018
Every composer, on J.S. Bach
I don't understand whether it's a compliment or not.
@@markusbisma5015 it's a compliment
@@markusbisma5015 it's a compliment
@@markusbisma5015 it's a compliment
When you first said "Repetition legitimises", I didn't believe you. But now you've said it a bunch of times, I'm starting to agree. ;)
Had to read that a couple of times - legit!
Ooooooh I get it lmaoooo
A professor of mine referred to it as "The First Law of Propaganda". He used it to good effect.
"Only in 4/4." Hmm. I was unaware 4/4 was suddenly uncool 🤔
There are so many better options out there for time signatures. A desperation to rebel to seem edgy does not fit into music like it does into other media.
@@an_annoying_cat what do you mean. If 4/4 conveys what a composer wants in his piece, then let him use 4/4. To switch up the time signature of your song just so you're different might at the least confuse the people reading the music, and at the worst, take away from the music.
MsDestroyer900 I wasn’t trying to say that it is bad, just that there are so many other choices you can use to spice up your music.
4/4 Still my favorite by far. There's stuff like 3/4 that sounds just as natural to me, but 4/4 JUST GOES
It just has a certain kind of strong and steady momentum to it, I wonder if it feels the same way to at least some people who didn't grow up on it.
Even if you're all about weird time signatures and going from one to the other, you should see how good it can be to land on 4/4, for like the chorus, and how the weird ones can sound even more pleasingly off-balance coming out of it.
I had a realization the other day, 4 measures of 3 equals 3 measures of 4, you can have a waltzing element be a constant pulse on a 3 bar 4/4 section and keep it a constant even when transitioning in or out of a waltz, no cut of the pattern at the end to make it fit. Had a waltzing bass solo playing a simple pattern with the 1, 4 and 5 for 4 measures, with the 1 always on 1st measure, then I throw in drums and chords in a 3 bar 4/4 pattern and suddenly the note on each first measure varies, it grooves so hard.
It is. Kinda. A bit.
Awesome stuff Adam! I love how you're incorporating more 'hands on' creative music making within your videos, like the demo of the musicality of repeats. Makes for a perfect combo of entertainment and education. Love it! (And Sungazer sounds awesome too!). Also agreed on Collier - I'm annoyed how much I like that With Love in My Heart track!
You two should finally do a crossover episode, since you have probably the best channels on music theory on youtube! Btw, I watch yours quite regularly, but today I'm binge watching your old videos and I'm quite surprised how much of Polish influences there are in your music.
Did you listen all the album by Collier? The choir intro is stunning! And I love the ouverture too, it's very Bernstein-like
David Bruce, you inspire me a lot in my journey to be a composer with every video you post. Well, I have the inspiration, only 8 years more of school haha. Great day!
David and Adam collab???
Your content is nice too. I like watching your videos and it's cool to see you on Adam's channel =)
"The sloppier that you deliver it, the more heartfelt and human it is." That's why we've quantified it!
This entire video was made to dunk on that one commenter about 4/4, wasn't it
Webster Wing kinda sad this reply was in 4/4
@@MandrakeGuy kinda sad that this reply to the reply was only in 4/4
@@husnainali-gn8bo kinda sad that this reply of the reply of the reply is in 4/4
@@StellariaEclipse kinda sad this reply to my reply to mandrakes reply to the comment is in 4/4 :/
@@husnainali-gn8bo kinda sad that all of you misjudged this to be in 4/4 when it was actually in triplets within 3/4
**Repetition Legitimizes**
**Off Kilter**
**Tuplets**
**J-Dilla!**
**Great Video**
Also kinda funny that Santana's Masterclass Ad follows you Adam. You keep being awesome.
I saw that edited comment and was even more shocked that the flute channel posted it lol lmao
Lo-fi Hip Hop Beats and Where to Find Them with Adam Neely
LimeGreenTeknii no. Funny joke but no. Lofi hip hop is a very vanilla extremely straight form. Whenever I hear lofi cats they have virtually no swing that feels natural or genuine. Swing isn’t just dragging a hit hat
Exactly, I never drag my hit hats, they go on my head or on the clothes rack
I think a lot of musicians don't necessarily realize when they're doing "micro-rhythmic blurring" kinda like how most people don't notice when they're converting base numbers to do math. It's only when analyzing it after the fact that you realize just how interesting it is.
Or how people don't realize when they switch from a 1st to 2nd conditional. Why is "I Second that Emotion" in first conditional but "Santeria" in second conditional?
@@glowingfish what?
@@KOSMIKFEADRECORDS In English, when we talk about probable events in the future, we use the future tense. When we talk about improbable events in the future, we use the past tense. "If I go to the store, I will buy bread" is first conditional. "If I went to China, I would see the Great Wall" is second conditional.
We do this so automatically we don't think about it, and we also don't think about the fact we are using the past tense to talk about the future. But which form we uses changes the emotional tone we use.
So when Smokey Robinson says "If you feel like giving me a lifetime of devotion..." he is using the first conditional. He finds the possibility realistic, even if it is not assured.
But Bradley Nowell saying: "If I had a million dollars, I would spend them all", means that he is talking about impossibilities. His revenge fantasies to him are just fantasies, him talking about an impossible situation.
@@glowingfish Oh thanks for taking the time! Fine explanation.
"Anything played wrong twice in a row is the beginning of an arrangement" - Frank Zappa
I'm fine, Adam. Thank you for asking. Started playing trumpet quite recently. I'm not a musician. More of a mortgage methodologist / quality assurance engineer, but I studied in a jazz studio several years ago. Your videos came quite handy in the last few weeks. You give a very warm feeling that music is not a competition, but art, self expression, deep and profound research of who we are and what we are up to. I, honestly, become acquiainted with your channel through Simon Fransman's gorgeous memes. And I'm extremely grateful that you gents created so wholesome and beautiful community of people who care about music, adore it and share their understanding and perception with everyone else. This is extraordinary valuable. Thank you very-very much.
Adam, this video is great on so many levels. The explanation of these "sloppy beats" was an eye opener to me. Paired with your sense of humour and your musical output it is absolute fun to watch your videos. Make sure your EP will also be on the streaming services. You got one listener for sure ;-).
Dude that lo fi joke made me burst in laughter! That's also my favourite lo fi channel on RUclips..
Anyway, thanks for all the awesome content.
Not even two minutes in and .Paak has already appeared, love it!
Imagine getting called for a gig and they tell you like: it's gonna be fine, we got it all written out, you just have to read and then they email you this 04:44
I would die
4:03 - Jacob Collier - "That guy is like... REALLY obnoxiously good at music!
I couldn't agree more. Jacob is the Mozart of our generation.... if Mozart played 300 instruments at a professional level and had the internet at his disposal.
Mozart DID play every instrument at top level, but yes: he had no internet.
As good as Collier is, he is far from being comparable to Mozart: i would not even say he is the Stevie Wonder of our generation. He's an extremely talented musician on his own, and that's more than enough.
Yeah I feel like this is an exaggeration. Jacob is an excellent musician in his own right but comparing him to someone so monumentally influential as Mozart sounds ignorant of either Mozart or Jacob, or both.
@@A_Simple_Neurose Touché ~ I appreciate your input
*"SMOOTH JAZZ FOR MILLENNIALS."*
Sadly yes - and equally boring!
For this GenXer as well :)
I think it's more of a gen z thing but yeah
@Mark Donald the lofi 24 hour music for study he played in the video: if you watch closely you can see he changed the name of the video "smooth Jazz for millennial's"
Lol
Finally, a video about lofi hip hop
You really couldn't resist at 14:10 - 14:20 huh. *Lick*
he had to do it to 'em.
Henry Graves I think it's in his contract.
But he didn't repeat it - does that mean the lick is illegitimate?
Alexander it's a real bastard of a lick for sure.
@@toodsf1 If it's not repeated, it's The Bastard Lick. That's what we're calling it, right?
I was like 9-10 years old when I played piano for my musical course in front of my parents and a lot of others. And suddenly I made a mistake. I wasn't panicking, and I continued playing. But when I repeated the same measure again, I felt like it seemed "right" to play it again "wrong". It was my way to make it feel like it wasn't an error, but something like a flavour I was adding. Being 20 and asking myself about what I was thinking 10 years ago make me realise that something I wasn't aware of made me feel like I was always in control. Now, watching your video and listening to those magical words "repetition legitimize" and "repetition is the key to the human intent" had me in a beautiful jump in the past. Thanks to have proven me that I wasn't doing wrong for the sake of being crazy, but instead because it was a rightful way of behave. Thank you, Adam.
Adam I know this is an old video so there's a very small chance that you'll see this but I just really wanted to say thank you for introducing me to Jacob Collier. I've been watching your videos for years so I always watch the newest one right away, and that afternoon when this video came out, I was watching it like normal until I got to the Jacob Collier part. My mind was blown for about 4 seconds and I just needed so see where that was coming from. I finished the video then searched up Jacob Collier With The Love In My Heart and was introduced to a new, almost unclassifyable genre of music that I had never heard before. I almost immediately got into his other music and the June Lee transcriptions/interviews and I just went crazy over the fact that this kind of thing was happening in the same world that I live in. That interest grew into a full on obsession and after squeezing out all the music theory I can from him, I started to become genuinely inspired to do my own similar things. I started by transcribing 6 of his Djesse Vol. 2 songs which was fun and then I realized that I could make music like that too, so now I have this long chapter of my life to look forward to, even at 15 years old. I'm happier now than I've ever been because of all these new feelings I'm getting from music and it's so wonderful! I'm sorry to put a praise of JC on your video but if you hadn't made such great content that kept me around for all these years, it might have been years till I found him. So thank you so much for being the reason that I've started this new era and found new love for music! I hope you have a wonderful life!
I’m way to drunk to understand this
Hey i know you
Hey I see you!
@@artyb3115 i see you too
Listen to the cat, Simon.
Magpie, you should bend Adam Neeley's Rapman!
head on, apply directly to the forehead!
head on, apply directly to the forehead!
Kinda has a drunk rhythm when you say it out loud...
It's so legitimate now!
I read that phrase as 11/16. No?
"That guy is like really obnoxiously good at music" lol
Sam It’s true Jacobs a god
I'll wager that he will go down in history as one of the greatest musicians in the digital age.
@@libertarious My bet is that he'll be completely forgotten just like every other soulless musical savant before him. He's a musical genius devoid of artistry. Could be a great teacher though.
@@yesok2522 He won a Grammy for an arrangement of the Flintstones theme. The ability to do that is, to me, an indicator of some degree of artistry.
@@yesok2522 Yep, he'll be forgotten like Stevie Wonder or Mozart. Who ever heard of those soulless savants?
If you look at Jacob Colliers’s Apple Music bio, it lists its hometown as England. That’s an example of what I like to call, England is my city
13:20 Hilary Hahn once said: "I cannot get lost in the music, since I'm the one producing it. It would be like driving with your eyes closed." But I guess that's a different genre.
I don't know much about music, I first heard about her on the TwoSet channel. Then I started to listen to her records and woah. How can she play like that!!! Goosebumps!
'That guy is like... really obnoxiously good at music'
- Adam Neely & every single musician listening or watching Jacob Collier perfom
Momo's not a musician...
That all being said, I'm not sure if I'm happy or mad that I just found out about Collier!?! (it's probably the normal response... for musicians) ;)
-sorry momo, couldn't help myself
@MomoTheBellyDancer now now fellas lets not get into some deep lettuce here
I find Jacob Collier just obnoxious. But different strokes for different folks. Music ain't sport.
@@JonnyKaine It's not indeed. But it's hard not to sadmit how easy it has been for Collier to learn to play various intruments, recording, mastering, and also sharing music.
@@zzzdi5770 he doesn't master his songs
"Repetition legitimizes"
Got it. going to play random shit with a delay effect.
As long as you can do it twice ;)
Bruh
Impressed you managed to say "it's everywhere" instead of "it's common" (after mentioning Common.) I couldn't resist such an obvious pun.
Idk why i watch videos about music theory. I can’t play any instruments and have never tried.
Poizin Rath It's called intellectual curiosity. I watch orgy videos yet have never participated in one and have no desire to. It's called intellectual curiosity.
Science Compliance That’s, uh, a lot of information about you friend.
Poizin Rath lol
To learn! Nothing wrong with that
I bought the simplest musical instrument, the woodblock, which costs like 5 dollars and takes 2 minutes to learn to play. And just from practicing that I can understand a lot of this conceptual stuff a lot better.
Sometimes the theorie is over my head, but the production values and the way that you explain things always keeps me watching
my drummer once counted one of our breakdowns at 23/16.... it was all 4/4
i do love how time signatures are more just suggestions than an actual rule
It is description. You basically say: "That's how music can be viewed". Not "should be viewed" or "must be viewed".
It’s called “subdividing”, kid...
As a kid my mother and her clique of friends were heavy drinkers, so being a child surrounded by and under the guardianship of very drunken adults I would experience a fair bit of anxiety, and hearing Sungazer's 'Drunk' tune somewhat evokes in me that same old kind of anxiety, so I suppose it really has captured the essence of drunkedness.
It is a great tune though.
So this is the video that introduced me to Jacob Collier and his music. I’d heard of him before, namely June lee’s interviews, but I’d never actually heard his music before. I’ve fallen in love with his music, his vibes, his energy. Because of this video I went to my first big name concert ever. What a magical experience it was to see Collier and his friends play live. Thank you Adam. You have inadvertently changed my life
_"1 Tip for Performing Complicated Music (that I learned the hard way)"_
*1 month passes*
_"How to Play Music With a "Drunk" Feel"_
James Hetfield, 1987 - 1995
Great video, Adam.
this explains me drunk so well - when i go to the bar, i'l be like 12:45 , after first beer 11:04 after a few more beers i talk like 6:28 and think 2:57 , after a few too many i go home like this 0:08 and when i get home and my wife gets mad, i wish i could be as apologetically articulate as 13:08 but all i get from her complaining is 2:34.
oh yeah, and next day to myself 14:31
My drunken stupers do seem like they go in reverse. Time travel I guess
hmm ok
Ahahahaha
love this
I'm good, Adam, thanks for asking.
Also, just in case y'all don't want to pause the video at one exact frame in 10:39, here's the text:
For example, it's actually a G7 at the top of the "Is That All There Is" chorus, so technically at most it's now tonicizing C major, only two steps removed from Bb in the circle of fifths, not three like I just said.
It actually eventually tonicizes at C minor. The whole tune ends in G minor, which is the minor relative of Bb, so its debatable if there was ever any modulation to begin with, but here's the thing...
The analysis is "wrong", but I'm giving you the inspiration behind the choice. I was inspired to do a modulation to a "brighter" key in the chorus by the feeling it inspired in this one particular song by Peggy Lee.
Analysis can exist on many levels, and the more ways you can analyze a thing, the better you'll come to know it.
Also, hi, how are you? Thanks for pausing this video. I hope you are enjoying it.
I appreciate this on a level I cannot convey into words
You dare make fun of my 24/7 Study, Gaming, Relaxation, Calm, Lo-fi music?!
yeah
Yeah.
A Viewer yeah
Nah
A Viewer I read 24/7 as a time signature and I was fuckin confused
Damn.. I've listened to Drunk by sungazer so much lately, and I love the 'drunk feeling'. Hearing it with the metronome made me feel so sober. Like gaining a superpower of oversight
Beyond being a master musician, Adam has killer presentation skills.
I'm doing well thanks for asking! How are you? I'm enjoying the video so far!
Olivia Nava peace! You beat me to this... Google was giving me errors, had to delete RUclips app and try through chrome. 😱😂🤗
Beat me too!!
That was pretty genius😂
14:16 the licc
das l i c c
Add a moog to it and it's a Boards of Canada song right there
@Twoset Guitar same
that l i c c
i want my last words to be t h e l i c c
Your videos may prove to be the inspiration I've needed to cough up the money for a music education. These analyses (and your masterful editing) keep things fresh as I listen to otherwise familiar music.
Adam, I got started watching your videos a month or two ago when I watched "a day in the life of a working musician". I was intrigued by your many abilities and now am so glad I found you. I love your thoughtful and enchanting delivery. It would be easy to make another channel where you just spit out information. (Which you certainly do.) But you take a topic like "How to play music with a drunk feel" and turn it into something so meaningful. (depending on your definition of meaningfulness :)) Well done. I like it when I see someone who actually cares about what they're doing. Someone who digs and passionately and explores the reasons for things. Keep inspiring. Keep believing. Keep meaning. May God continue to bless you.
I'm good. Thanks for asking.
"for example, it's actually a G7 at the top of the "It That All There Is" chorus, so technically at most it's now tonicizing C major, only two steps removed from Bb in the circle of fifths, not three like I just said.
It actually eventually tonicizes C minor. The whole tune ends on G MINOR, the relative minor of Bb, so its debatable if there was ever any modulationto begin with, but here's the thing....
the analysis is "wrong," but I'm giving you the inspiration behind the choice. I was inspired to do a direct modulation to a "brighter" key in the chorus by the feeling it inspired in this one particular song by Peggy Lee.
Analysis can exist on many levels, and the more ways you can analyze a thing, the better you'll come to know it.
also, hi, how are you? thanks for pausing the video. I hope you are enjoying it." - @10:39
You're weird.
Lars was light years ahead of his time :p
good one xD
Lol
On and Justice for all yes.
@@gbirdo4718 jokes aside this record's got some solid drum parts in here (Dyers Eve for example)
Light years is a measurement of distance
Man, I've really taken a liking to the videos on your channel. It's just what I needed to help guide me in learning and understanding music theory. Love the tunes, too!
Also, I definitely paused and read that whole thing as I absolutely adore single frame messages!
Hi, I'm doing fine. Yes, I'm enjoying the video. I appreciate the difference between how you're hearing your reference material--it's effect on you--and how the musical analysis works. Composers can be quite clever when they want to get away with writing a motif that their peers would consider "wrong." Best! :)
I've not watched all your videos but this is my favorite of the many I've watched to date. A great intersection of theory, feel, and just being human. Loved it.
adam leaving cute messages to all the nerds who paused to figure out why the move to the chorus didn’t quite feel like a jump three spaces around the circle
And thanking us for reading it.
I've always found that the 5:3 polyrhythm was a relatively easy "drunk" rhythm... Etude in 5/8 against 3/8 incoming...
The Jacob Collier song he shows actually does that along with the grouping of 7 - he doesn't show it, but in the actual song that section is at 73.8 bpm coming from 123 bpm - a perfect 5:3 ratio. So he's doing septuplets in a 5:3 polyrhythm. What a guy.
So 3:5:7? Well, that sounds like a Challenge
DerSibbe idk man, Jazz Waltz sounds nothing like drunk and it’s the mother of all 5/4 beats.
That key shift is the musical equivalent of miscounting the steps going down stairs and temporary thinking your falling to your death
So basically you turn the swing up to max
Actually you're mixing straight and swing and making a "strung" feeling. You're basically in the middle of straight and swing.
5=2+3
2 being straight, 3 being swung
Definitely liked the digression into the pedantic world of music analysis. Keep being awesome at explaining this incredibly nerdy music stuff to those of us who are just dipping our toes in the water.
Adam play a 13 note tuplet pls
Xenoghost 4+2.5+4+2.5?
just practice in 3 and 5 and you can make any grouping you want really.
3+3+3+4
you can play stuff like 19/8
5+5+5+4 or 3+4+3+3+3+3
it's just maths man
For 5 hours
It's important to keep in mind that time signatures, tempos and note rates (like tuplets) are all just a way of conceptualizing when to hit shit, something demonstrated pretty nicely here where they translate 9-tuplets into triplets in 3/4. With that in mind if you get a firm grasp on odd time signatures then it's just a matter of getting them up to speed to be able to translate that into really deep and weird tuplets. So basically what Protoka is saying but a bit more explicit, 19/8 and 19-tuplets are different but if you play 19/8 fast enough it becomes synonymous with a 19-tuplet.
@@MediHusky Groupings always work :)
Good job on the video Adam. I like the cutting to the outdoor footage to keep things interesting. It's inspiring me to do an essay style video on some drum topic. Also if you're not hip to Zach Danziger, get hip to him. I'm betting you're familiar with him though. Thanks for the vid.
So happy to see Jacob in this video! Great explanation as always Adam!
Excellent analysis of that lopsided lo-fi feel. As a bass player and electronic composer, this analysis has brought a “production technique” some real live performance value
"Obnoxiously good at music..."
That's how I thought about you when I discovered your channel hehehe
Damn how has your essay game gotten even better!
Saw this title and immediately thought of Drunken Master. I'm so glad that's how this video actually started
Dmaj7sus9b13 is the best thing I've heard all week
#9 not sus9
@@donaldretchet9873 shut
sus
@@senza4591 lol
@@mikec6935 AKMOGUS I LVOE AGMONUS!!!!!!!!!!!11111
Super excited to see your live set tomorrow. Glad I did some additional research before hand. Appreciate the Drunken Master reference too.
Adam always putting a nice message at the end of any longer text explanations in his videos is rather lovely and I enjoy it greatly, as I do the rest of the videos 10:39
But how do i stop that 1/10 second to read the text??
get you somebody who looks at you the way Adam Neely looks when he complains about how good Jacob Collier is
😏
that metronome on 5:13 actually adds like a pretty cool layer to the music
Pro Tip: Count along to "repetition legitimizes" to play in 9/8
nice
It actually works what
yooo, nice
I'm doing wonderful Adam, thanks for asking! I am indeed enjoying this video in the middle of my quarantine a year and some change after it came out. Love your stuff!
Adam, I probably watched this video like 5 times, and in my opinion this is one of your finest works
Hey Adam, you should check out he 3rd movement of Béla Bartók's 5th string quartet. It features a bulgarian 4+2+3 rhythm coupled with multiple divisons of 10/8 bars and explores it both harmonically and rhythmically while tying it all together with a single melodic idea.
I know that when Adam's final moment comes, he'll be saying *_BASS_*
Neely *is* the Drunken Master
9:00 Naima! The first jazz tune I learned to play on piano.
An example for the repetition of "mistakes" is also Etude Op. 25, No. 5, "Wrong Note" by Chopin. The repetition also applyies to listening to the piece multiple times, making you think less and less about the "Wrong Notes"
Very interesting Video :)
How convenient, I was just writing a song in 7/4 timing.
I'm not jazzy enough. It gave me a stroke.
I am currently writing a piece without a meter entirely... but i've got 7/8 behind me now too + in that piece I've used the piano's white keys exclusively
So you're essentially writing a spoken-word equivalent of music?
Like a recitative? Hm, Not really, i think... the non-metric piece i was talking about sounds more like a slow, calm, free and progressively tonal improvisation, if that makes sense...
Pink Floyd's Money is in 7/4 and it's not particularly jazzy, so it can be done :)
@@joechip1232 Yeah, odd meters are everywhere if you know where to look. Them Bones by Alice in Chains is another example of grooving rock in seven. It even shows up in pop, for example Always by Erasure has a bar of 5/4 in the chorus.
"smooth jazz for millenials" OOOHHH HE SAID WHAT WE WERE ALL THINKING
7:13 that wonky image stabilizations makes me feel drunk
Even more fun is the interaction between players in a drunk feel. Getting the bass and keys to line up just right (i.e. consistently wrong) is so satisfying, trying to imitate the way J Dilla would have jazz samples come in late
Fantastic explanation Adam. And I agree about Collier - wow. Looking forward to hearing more of your (and Shawn's) music. Thanks.
I only play in tuplets that are prime numbers.
Those are the only tuplets you need
So almost all of the most common ones?
Same, I only play in 2-tuplets
Yeah, 1-tuplets sound so good kappa.
@@unflexian inb4 1 is not prime
9tuplets = re-pe-ti-tion-le-gi-ti-mi-zes
So play a 9tuplet twice and you're legit.
hahaha love it!
2 legit 2 quit
I LOVE this comment
bro why would u feel nonuplet swing as 4-5? weirdo.
Keyboard challenge:
5th finger plays 2 note tuplets
4th finger plays 3 note tuplets
3rd finger plays 4 note tuplets
2nd finger plays 5 note tuplets
Thumb plays 6 note tuplets
Brain explodes
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
that sounds like hell to pull off
that would probably sound like a mess
if someone could pull that off though I would die.
it's really interesting to finally be able to quantify off-beat rhythms! i also quite like the reference to that one live stream channel everyone seems to play while studying or at a shop, which comes full-circle in some way because so many lo-fi tracks feature The Lick in one form or another!
10:39
I always appreciate your enthused dissections and insightful perspectives.
Cheers!