RUclips timestamps by Les of first part of episode MicrobeTV Discord Server discord.com/invite/xA4JX7AeeU 02:19 ANNOUNCEMENTS 02:24 ASV 2023 meeting Registration 03:31 TWiV1000: Live from New York, Its Saturday Night. April 15th. In-person audience. 04:00 Paul Berg obituary 07:06 DOE low confidence in lab leak hypothesis 11:28 Spike mRNA in blood (J Path Micro Imm) 12:49 QR CODE 28:13 Spike mRNA in blood (Biomedicine) 31:40 Cross-protective mAbs against respiratory viruses (Nat Comm) RSV prefusion F protein vaccine in older adults (NEJM) Ad26.RSV.preF-RSV preF protein vaccine (NEJM) Letters read on TWiV 989 Website audio timestamps by Jolene. Thanks.
In 1972 I attended a lecture given by Dr. Berg at Queen’s University in Kingston Ontario. He blew me away with the recombination ideas. Have never forgotten that lecture and the impact it had on me throughout my life working as a nurse in Oncology research. RIP Dr. Berg.
This gets really fun, discussion of the second paper, the technology & findings. I'm with RC on this, mind-blown and humble in the face of breath-taking advances in the field. (e.g. clone mediated class switching, not to mention the sorting, etc. to find those 2 B cells, discussed ~ 44 min) I love the discussion of those sequencing gels (".. the really treacherous part...")
I'm just a lay person who enjoys these podcasts, and hopes to learn something. I find Campbell's videos very disturbing, and really don't know what to believe. I do think the public has not been privy to enough data, and there are many more adverse events re the vaccine than are reported. A family member in her 60s got pericardial effusion after her 2nd booster and is still ill several months later. I am immuno compromised and have had 3 full vaccines and 2 boosters. Normally I would be taking another before I fly in the near future, but really am too afraid now. There is no good solution, but ALL data should be out there for discussion.
The most uncomfortable giggles at 11:20. I enjoy their show but they refuse to acknowledge that many scientist were banned and silenced for discussing lab leak, ineffectiveness of commonly worn masks, and natural immunity. Science isn’t right by consensus. You should be able to defend your position without silencing others. The pendulum is finally swinging with new facts. Many people should be ashamed of their behavior. It’s un-American, not scientific, and it’s low brow humor like a Jon Stewart sketch.
Un American might be a good thing. After all what is American? The constitutional protection of cult leaders? John Stewart low brow? Perhaps, but his low brow towers high in the stratosphere compared to the brow of Fox presenters and the gibbering old fools they spoon feed with lies and hatred on a constant basis.
I disagree with John Campbell on many things, but he isn't just saying the vaccine is worse than the virus, he's saying it's worse than the virus RIGHT NOW (Still wrong, but let's actually quote other people correctly)
Still not correct. He stipulated in the young, under 40.. and the data shows this. There's more risk from the shots in that age group. The Pfizer trial data shows 1/800 serious adverse events. That is very high.
Referring to the discussion of the first paper: Some of the guests pointing out there's no data about how much RNA is around in the blood or if there's Lipid Nano Particles....Doesn't that mean the whole vaccination campaign with these new products has been one huge experiment, since there's actually no data about these possible problems? BTW saying John Campbell is saying this for the money is just an ad hominem. I'm sure he's not making anything, because his content is not monetizable, since it goes against WHO guidelines. I'm also not seeing him driving Ferraris all the time. There's much more corruption going on in governments and lobbying with big pharma to look for, that would hint to bad decision making regarding these vaccines. Virologists like you guys depend on funding from government, which doesn't make you free of suspicions on how you might be biased.
In 'Hothouse' by Brian Aldis, the Earth has stopped rotating, and the bright side has become completely tropical forest. The dominant species are plants, and they have bridged space to colonise the Moon too. Humans live in the canopy and have shrunk so small that they are hunted by wasps. Their minds have become symbiotic with a fungus they call the Morel, and it is their constant companion and guide through life. Best read with some early Floyd, and Hawkwind or Tangerine Dream playing. :)
From 2021 Campbell worried about lack of aspiration to check for blood before vaccinating . So if the vaccine mRNA entered the blood stream from a anomalous vein in the deltoid - would this be a problem ?
and what is “most people”? Sure seems like a lot of injury. Sure hope “most people” have the ability to break down this not natural mRNA and its fragments and keep those pesky lipid nano particles from doing what the were designed to do …
@@julieolsten6306 the problem is that everyone is different at the immune system level, with the possible exception of homozygous siblings. Therefore you cannot speak about a single person’s response only a population’s response. Thus, if an intervention is 99.9% effective there is no way of identifying the thousandth person who has a different response to the intervention. Most people have their heart on the left hand side, so ECG machines show the electrode placement for the left handed heart, but there are some people who have their heart on the right, so the diagrams are not appropriate. John Campbell overstated the problem with accidental venous vaccination, the recommendation for the past 10 years has been not to aspirate vaccinations in the deltoid, the only place where aspiration should be done is when the injection is in the buttock because there’s a vein close by. It used to be that tetanus prophylactic vaccination (actually diphtheria, tetanus, polio) would be administered in the buttock, but aspiration was difficult as the syringes were pre-filled, the injection site was changed to the deltoid and no aspiration.
If a myocite with syntetic mARN produce Spike more time ,may be boosters are not needed ?(to much can have less effect or can harm) When myocite was destroyed by immune system m ARN can be released.
At the time, women playing in bands was not as commonplace as it is now. Our high school didn't allow women in band until the 1970s. Add to that that most women were expected to marry and raise families and not pursue careers.
Interesting viewpoint. My highschool teachers encouraged me to attend university, as did my parents and I graduated highschool in 1975 (female). No one was suggesting I marry and raise children as an alternative. I had the fifth highest grade average of my year and 4/5 of us in the top 5 were women. All of us graduated from university.
@@OceanFrontVilla3 yes. That's great. Obviously there are always regional variations and exceptions. My mother graduated in 1968 and there were no women allowed in the band (the exception being a girl who had moved from another state, but she was not allowed in marching band). There were all-female swing bands in the 40s, but they were the exceptions. The c.1960s brought around a lot of changes for women as far as career paths, opportunities for independence, etc.
The British Pregnancy Advisory Service advises there are no contraindications for covid vaccines of any type where Combined Hormonal Contraception (CHC) is used. There can be rare clotting with CHC and, iirc, there were some cases that coincided with vaccination. On investigation no actual links were found.
Very meaningful that you took on John Campbell's report. Thank you. I follow both you and he, and believe that he is more distant to the government than you are, and that he has a benevolent attitude as opposed to grubbing for money on youtube as you've claimed. The novelty of the discussion obviously exposes that which was not discussed with the public. You have failed to take on more of the same, and there is more. The claim that the shot would stay in your muscle? The idea that it entered the blood stream at all as an issue? Getting into organs such as brain tissue or gonads... reverse transcriptase process possibilities alight. Now am I getting too far out there? Here on this program we know you to speak extensively, and yet upon taking on you have failed to extend, and no doubt you all are under tremendous pressure there. Again, thank you for what little you could share with us. I'm using your lectures Vincent and think highly of you, but I'll be following Campbell too for the foreseeable future. It's quite an indicator how you all have treated this issue.
John Campbell is a nurse. His degree is in nursing education and He has done well and gotten lots of followers. I will take real virologits, real epidemiologist, and vaccine economics last like Paul Offfit over a nurse. Nurses definitely have an important place in public health but he is overstepping. Watching him and Russel Brand would be hilarious if they were not doing so.much harm.
@@maryloumartin6026 I will take an honest one of either any day, and these days this is not so easy to find. I am not here to worship. I want the truth. VR (Vincent) has owned the myocarditis, but why didn't he give us the mechanism? Let's hope that what virology learns from a nearly global mRNA program in humans doesn't kill us. An engineered spike protein fit to ACE2 is then fit to some proximally originated coronavirus released into Wuhan China with multiple cover stories; thence the mRNA vaccine implements the very same in pure RNA... on a simplistic level it seems insane. One uptake by another virus in some strange state that is beyond standard virology knowledge and you hatch the next pandememic. The more you innoculate the higher the probability. Fade to red. This strategy is for a future of biological warfare which is predictable in response to this first 'mistake'. Who blamed Russia for the pipeline explosion? Does this logic extend? Obviously it does. As to who is out of control now; I will readily own that it is my nation that is failing the world in so many ways that to hold the context accurately is highly divertible; especially by a media that runs in lockstep with the deep state... as proven by the innards of Twitter.
@@timothygolden5321 Campbell is making hundreds of thousands of pounds a year feeding conspiracy theorists what they want to hear, don't for a second think that doesn't cloud his judgement.
It's a sad state of affairs when this panel of distinguished, highly-qualified scientists has to discuss the ramblings of a shameless charlatan like John Campbell.
"Should be 'do not'" - No it shouldn't! The paper used correct grammar, while you got it wrong. "Data" is uncountable, like "water". Being snarky is bad, but being snarky and wrong is the worst. Other than that, it was an interesting discussion.
Pompous academics like to come up with their own "behaviours" to separate themselves from the rest of the humanity, even when they're totally wrong and making fools of themselves.
@@MicrobeTV Let me try to be nice. Here's what the Longman dictionary says about the word data: "GRAMMAR: Singular or plural verb?• In everyday English, data is usually followed by a singular verb: The data is collected by trained interviewers.• In academic or very formal English, a plural verb is used: These data are summarized in Table 5." So you criticised another academic for using everday English. But isn't that exactly what academics should be doing to make their work accessible? If you don't want to then fine but please don't criticise others for their grammatical choices.
@@posvid Data is the plural of datum. It isn't Dr. Racaniello's fault too many people don't speak or write well. And rather than degrade his own English, to match the poorly spoken, it is better for him to set a good example.
@@deborahfreedman333 Incorrect. Please stop mindlessly parroting lies you have been told. You can easily check, just Google 'datum', and you will see that it means something completely different in English (a coordinate system) and nobody uses it as the singular for data (which is uncountable). I would be shocked if Racaniello PhD ever uses the word 'datum' to refer to a data point, because on some level he knows it is incorrect English. Yes, it is entirely Racaniello PhD's fault, because he is the one degrading his English by getting it wrong. Try to remember that ordinary people are the ones who define correct word usage and grammar, and they show a clear and consistent pattern.
Vaxed young athletes dropping dead of stopped hearts and long, elastic fibrous clots found in the blood of dead people by embalmers is not explained yet either. And those facts are much more concerning.
The clots have been, they are normal if there’s any delay in either autopsy or embalming. Blood continues to clot, in fact this is a well known phenomenon. Athletes are at high risk of sudden cardiac arrest, something that has been known for the past twenty years. A Google scholar search will show papers from the early 2000’s if not before. In 2015 my local sports university held a seminar on this very topic and a training day.
Nothing better than scientists being completely closed off to having an open minded discussion about Covid origins and potential vaccine issues. I used to love this station. All anyone wants is open minded discussion.
This is not how science works! All their minds are open to finding the evidence. They have said there is no data to show any other evidence than has been shown.
The only thing I dislike about them is what they generally say about natural immunity, they keep saying the vaccine is safer as if we are telling people to get immunity by getting infected, no one is saying that And also the thing about "the natural immunity is more variable because you don't know the viral load", even Amy said that was wrong in a q&a with A&V but the rest of the crew keep saying that Also if that was the case we wouldn't get 90% effectiveness against severe disease for all variants.
@@F2a0bi0an5o "saying the vaccine is safer as if we are telling people to get immunity by getting infected, no one is saying that". Actually many people were and still are saying exactly that. I think the term that Daniel used 'survivor's immunity' is a much more accurate description.
@@calluna5030 only the very small retard population from the Far far Far far far right are saying that, it's basically zero people What most people are saying is if you were infected before you are protected already therefore you don't need a vaccine dose for a very long time
@@calluna5030 which is a pretty absurd word to use. People die when getting the flu too. We don't call surviving the flu survivors. The problem of death is less than a percent if your below a certain age. There is a lot of things with low death probabilities. Driving cars is probably more dangerous than covid. Not to diminish the deaths caused by covid but its not the bringer of death we are exaggerating it to me.
The reason people watch John Campbell is that he speaks clearly and precisely and not dismissively. Plus of course he tends to explain official data without inputting his own bias.
I noticed Campbell has been Pfizer pilled over the last couple years. He ever so slowly was forced to admit that the data from Pfizer became so unreliable and not worth the paper it was written on, that he could no longer in good conscience continue to support the narrative they paid good money to disseminate. That's the sign of a good and ethical person. Very unlike what we find on this channel.
RUclips timestamps by Les of first part of episode
MicrobeTV Discord Server discord.com/invite/xA4JX7AeeU
02:19 ANNOUNCEMENTS
02:24 ASV 2023 meeting Registration
03:31 TWiV1000: Live from New York, Its Saturday Night. April 15th. In-person audience.
04:00 Paul Berg obituary
07:06 DOE low confidence in lab leak hypothesis
11:28 Spike mRNA in blood (J Path Micro Imm)
12:49 QR CODE
28:13 Spike mRNA in blood (Biomedicine)
31:40 Cross-protective mAbs against respiratory viruses (Nat Comm)
RSV prefusion F protein vaccine in older adults (NEJM)
Ad26.RSV.preF-RSV preF protein vaccine (NEJM)
Letters read on TWiV 989
Website audio timestamps by Jolene. Thanks.
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In 1972 I attended a lecture given by Dr. Berg at Queen’s University in Kingston Ontario. He blew me away with the recombination ideas. Have never forgotten that lecture and the impact it had on me throughout my life working as a nurse in Oncology research. RIP Dr. Berg.
This gets really fun, discussion of the second paper, the technology & findings. I'm with RC on this, mind-blown and humble in the face of breath-taking advances in the field. (e.g. clone mediated class switching, not to mention the sorting, etc. to find those 2 B cells, discussed ~ 44 min) I love the discussion of those sequencing gels (".. the really treacherous part...")
I came here to say the same thing!
I'm just a lay person who enjoys these podcasts, and hopes to learn something. I find Campbell's videos very disturbing, and really don't know what to believe. I do think the public has not been privy to enough data, and there are many more adverse events re the vaccine than are reported. A family member in her 60s got pericardial effusion after her 2nd booster and is still ill several months later. I am immuno compromised and have had 3 full vaccines and 2 boosters. Normally I would be taking another before I fly in the near future, but really am too afraid now. There is no good solution, but ALL data should be out there for discussion.
Five times? Have you got a death wish?
The discussion on This Week in Virology, TWIV, is in episode 989. Starting at 12.21, and a second study discussed starting at 27.37
Still a Foot of snow on the ground in Calgary, Alberta, Canada.
The most uncomfortable giggles at 11:20. I enjoy their show but they refuse to acknowledge that many scientist were banned and silenced for discussing lab leak, ineffectiveness of commonly worn masks, and natural immunity. Science isn’t right by consensus. You should be able to defend your position without silencing others. The pendulum is finally swinging with new facts. Many people should be ashamed of their behavior. It’s un-American, not scientific, and it’s low brow humor like a Jon Stewart sketch.
Un American might be a good thing.
After all what is American?
The constitutional protection of cult leaders?
John Stewart low brow?
Perhaps, but his low brow towers high in the stratosphere compared to the brow of Fox presenters and the gibbering old fools they spoon feed with lies and hatred on a constant basis.
Wow, a lot of new fans here... ;) Thank you, professors!
Thanks for another great episode!
I disagree with John Campbell on many things, but he isn't just saying the vaccine is worse than the virus, he's saying it's worse than the virus RIGHT NOW
(Still wrong, but let's actually quote other people correctly)
Still not correct. He stipulated in the young, under 40.. and the data shows this. There's more risk from the shots in that age group. The Pfizer trial data shows 1/800 serious adverse events. That is very high.
Referring to the discussion of the first paper: Some of the guests pointing out there's no data about how much RNA is around in the blood or if there's Lipid Nano Particles....Doesn't that mean the whole vaccination campaign with these new products has been one huge experiment, since there's actually no data about these possible problems?
BTW saying John Campbell is saying this for the money is just an ad hominem. I'm sure he's not making anything, because his content is not monetizable, since it goes against WHO guidelines. I'm also not seeing him driving Ferraris all the time. There's much more corruption going on in governments and lobbying with big pharma to look for, that would hint to bad decision making regarding these vaccines. Virologists like you guys depend on funding from government, which doesn't make you free of suspicions on how you might be biased.
John has a company that has £800k in the bank, started in 2020.
Thx for discussing Dept of Energy DOE determination regarding SARSCOV-2 origins.A nothing burger. It just muddled the information. Good grief.
I do believe cordeceps can infect other insects, however each strain is very specific to a species.
The paper QR codes are cool!
In 'Hothouse' by Brian Aldis, the Earth has stopped rotating, and the bright side has become completely tropical forest. The dominant species are plants, and they have bridged space to colonise the Moon too. Humans live in the canopy and have shrunk so small that they are hunted by wasps. Their minds have become symbiotic with a fungus they call the Morel, and it is their constant companion and guide through life.
Best read with some early Floyd, and Hawkwind or Tangerine Dream playing. :)
From 2021 Campbell worried about lack of aspiration to check for blood before vaccinating .
So if the vaccine mRNA entered the blood stream from a anomalous vein in the deltoid - would this be a problem ?
The Danish study shows there is vaccine mRNA in the blood. In most people this presence does not seem to be a problem.
@@MicrobeTV But, what histology results?
and what is “most people”? Sure seems like a lot of injury. Sure hope “most people” have the ability to break down this not natural mRNA and its fragments and keep those pesky lipid nano particles from doing what the were designed to do …
@@julieolsten6306 the problem is that everyone is different at the immune system level, with the possible exception of homozygous siblings. Therefore you cannot speak about a single person’s response only a population’s response. Thus, if an intervention is 99.9% effective there is no way of identifying the thousandth person who has a different response to the intervention.
Most people have their heart on the left hand side, so ECG machines show the electrode placement for the left handed heart, but there are some people who have their heart on the right, so the diagrams are not appropriate.
John Campbell overstated the problem with accidental venous vaccination, the recommendation for the past 10 years has been not to aspirate vaccinations in the deltoid, the only place where aspiration should be done is when the injection is in the buttock because there’s a vein close by. It used to be that tetanus prophylactic vaccination (actually diphtheria, tetanus, polio) would be administered in the buttock, but aspiration was difficult as the syringes were pre-filled, the injection site was changed to the deltoid and no aspiration.
Thank you for your insights.
What happened to Dixon
If a myocite with syntetic mARN produce Spike more time ,may be boosters are not needed ?(to much can have less effect or can harm)
When myocite was destroyed by immune system m ARN can be released.
At the time, women playing in bands was not as commonplace as it is now. Our high school didn't allow women in band until the 1970s. Add to that that most women were expected to marry and raise families and not pursue careers.
Interesting viewpoint. My highschool teachers encouraged me to attend university, as did my parents and I graduated highschool in 1975 (female). No one was suggesting I marry and raise children as an alternative. I had the fifth highest grade average of my year and 4/5 of us in the top 5 were women. All of us graduated from university.
@@OceanFrontVilla3 yes. That's great. Obviously there are always regional variations and exceptions. My mother graduated in 1968 and there were no women allowed in the band (the exception being a girl who had moved from another state, but she was not allowed in marching band). There were all-female swing bands in the 40s, but they were the exceptions. The c.1960s brought around a lot of changes for women as far as career paths, opportunities for independence, etc.
Younger female could often be on anticonceptionnel meds…could that increase their risk
for thrombosis when they get a vaccine….
The British Pregnancy Advisory Service advises there are no contraindications for covid vaccines of any type where Combined Hormonal Contraception (CHC) is used. There can be rare clotting with CHC and, iirc, there were some cases that coincided with vaccination. On investigation no actual links were found.
Young women on BCP have clotting problems, even without vaccination, it is a common problem with high estrogen levels.
Very meaningful that you took on John Campbell's report. Thank you. I follow both you and he, and believe that he is more distant to the government than you are, and that he has a benevolent attitude as opposed to grubbing for money on youtube as you've claimed. The novelty of the discussion obviously exposes that which was not discussed with the public. You have failed to take on more of the same, and there is more. The claim that the shot would stay in your muscle? The idea that it entered the blood stream at all as an issue? Getting into organs such as brain tissue or gonads... reverse transcriptase process possibilities alight. Now am I getting too far out there? Here on this program we know you to speak extensively, and yet upon taking on you have failed to extend, and no doubt you all are under tremendous pressure there. Again, thank you for what little you could share with us. I'm using your lectures Vincent and think highly of you, but I'll be following Campbell too for the foreseeable future. It's quite an indicator how you all have treated this issue.
John Campbell is a nurse. His degree is in nursing education and He has done well and gotten lots of followers. I will take real virologits, real epidemiologist, and vaccine economics last like Paul Offfit over a nurse. Nurses definitely have an important place in public health but he is overstepping. Watching him and Russel Brand would be hilarious if they were not doing so.much harm.
Sorry Rockwell my errors. Probably should do this on exercise bike.
@@maryloumartin6026 I will take an honest one of either any day, and these days this is not so easy to find. I am not here to worship. I want the truth. VR (Vincent) has owned the myocarditis, but why didn't he give us the mechanism? Let's hope that what virology learns from a nearly global mRNA program in humans doesn't kill us. An engineered spike protein fit to ACE2 is then fit to some proximally originated coronavirus released into Wuhan China with multiple cover stories; thence the mRNA vaccine implements the very same in pure RNA... on a simplistic level it seems insane. One uptake by another virus in some strange state that is beyond standard virology knowledge and you hatch the next pandememic. The more you innoculate the higher the probability. Fade to red. This strategy is for a future of biological warfare which is predictable in response to this first 'mistake'. Who blamed Russia for the pipeline explosion? Does this logic extend? Obviously it does. As to who is out of control now; I will readily own that it is my nation that is failing the world in so many ways that to hold the context accurately is highly divertible; especially by a media that runs in lockstep with the deep state... as proven by the innards of Twitter.
@@timothygolden5321 Campbell is making hundreds of thousands of pounds a year feeding conspiracy theorists what they want to hear, don't for a second think that doesn't cloud his judgement.
Sucharit Baghdi also an expert on virology.
It's a sad state of affairs when this panel of distinguished, highly-qualified scientists has to discuss the ramblings of a shameless charlatan like John Campbell.
"Should be 'do not'" - No it shouldn't! The paper used correct grammar, while you got it wrong. "Data" is uncountable, like "water". Being snarky is bad, but being snarky and wrong is the worst.
Other than that, it was an interesting discussion.
Pompous academics like to come up with their own "behaviours" to separate themselves from the rest of the humanity, even when they're totally wrong and making fools of themselves.
Not true at all that data is uncountable. Could you be nicer when you are critical?
@@MicrobeTV Let me try to be nice. Here's what the Longman dictionary says about the word data: "GRAMMAR: Singular or plural verb?• In everyday English, data is usually followed by a singular verb: The data is collected by trained interviewers.• In academic or very formal English, a plural verb is used: These data are summarized in Table 5." So you criticised another academic for using everday English. But isn't that exactly what academics should be doing to make their work accessible? If you don't want to then fine but please don't criticise others for their grammatical choices.
@@posvid Data is the plural of datum. It isn't Dr. Racaniello's fault too many people don't speak or write well. And rather than degrade his own English, to match the poorly spoken, it is better for him to set a good example.
@@deborahfreedman333 Incorrect. Please stop mindlessly parroting lies you have been told. You can easily check, just Google 'datum', and you will see that it means something completely different in English (a coordinate system) and nobody uses it as the singular for data (which is uncountable). I would be shocked if Racaniello PhD ever uses the word 'datum' to refer to a data point, because on some level he knows it is incorrect English. Yes, it is entirely Racaniello PhD's fault, because he is the one degrading his English by getting it wrong. Try to remember that ordinary people are the ones who define correct word usage and grammar, and they show a clear and consistent pattern.
Yay he’s back
Dickson gave us the hint to Tuba Skinny..
Anything concerning nuclear...will be in Department of Interior!!
Quantum Ion Mats and Monkey pox irradiated are interesting readings on there!!
Vaxed young athletes dropping dead of stopped hearts and long, elastic fibrous clots found in the blood of dead people by embalmers is not explained yet either. And those facts are much more concerning.
The clots have been, they are normal if there’s any delay in either autopsy or embalming. Blood continues to clot, in fact this is a well known phenomenon. Athletes are at high risk of sudden cardiac arrest, something that has been known for the past twenty years. A Google scholar search will show papers from the early 2000’s if not before. In 2015 my local sports university held a seminar on this very topic and a training day.
Which young athletes dropped dead from their heart stopping? Lol
@@sspbrazil many including teenagers as young as 14.
@@MRCAGR1 does that include teenagers between the ages of 13 and 20?
@@ollehkacb where? There is zero evidence any of these deaths are related to the vaccine. Grow up
Nothing better than scientists being completely closed off to having an open minded discussion about Covid origins and potential vaccine issues. I used to love this station. All anyone wants is open minded discussion.
This is not how science works! All their minds are open to finding the evidence. They have said there is no data to show any other evidence than has been shown.
The only thing I dislike about them is what they generally say about natural immunity, they keep saying the vaccine is safer as if we are telling people to get immunity by getting infected, no one is saying that
And also the thing about "the natural immunity is more variable because you don't know the viral load", even Amy said that was wrong in a q&a with A&V but the rest of the crew keep saying that
Also if that was the case we wouldn't get 90% effectiveness against severe disease for all variants.
@@F2a0bi0an5o "saying the vaccine is safer as if we are telling people to get immunity by getting infected, no one is saying that". Actually many people were and still are saying exactly that. I think the term that Daniel used 'survivor's immunity' is a much more accurate description.
@@calluna5030 only the very small retard population from the Far far Far far far right are saying that, it's basically zero people
What most people are saying is if you were infected before you are protected already therefore you don't need a vaccine dose for a very long time
@@calluna5030 which is a pretty absurd word to use.
People die when getting the flu too. We don't call surviving the flu survivors. The problem of death is less than a percent if your below a certain age. There is a lot of things with low death probabilities. Driving cars is probably more dangerous than covid. Not to diminish the deaths caused by covid but its not the bringer of death we are exaggerating it to me.
The reason people watch John Campbell is that he speaks clearly and precisely and not dismissively. Plus of course he tends to explain official data without inputting his own bias.
I noticed Campbell has been Pfizer pilled over the last couple years. He ever so slowly was forced to admit that the data from Pfizer became so unreliable and not worth the paper it was written on, that he could no longer in good conscience continue to support the narrative they paid good money to disseminate.
That's the sign of a good and ethical person. Very unlike what we find on this channel.