Carnosaur: A Dinosaur Horror Retrospective (Part 1)
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- Carnosaur is a horror film from the 90s featuring genetically engineered dinosaurs created by a mad scientist who wants them to reclaim their world. Despite becoming known as a rather infamous title in dinosaur film history, there's much more to the story that goes beyond just the movie. It involves its novel source material, comparisons with the Jurassic Park movie, production issues, budget cuts, cut content, and more.
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To anyone confused:
This is a reupload from an original version that was initially released on Halloween of 2023. I had to take that version down. There were plans to wait even longer until officially re-releasing the videos, but I was able to shift some things around and finally work on them this week. Part 2 will be out by Friday. Your patience for these videos has been greatly appreciated. I'm happy they're back up.
Just discovered your channel because I love Dinosaurs altogether
That explains why you just uploaded the part 1 all over again.
an excuse to rewatch a retrospective on a Roger Corman movie?!
@@diemwing Exactly
Why was it taken down?
I have fond memories of Carnosaur, my aunt was babysitting me at my grandparents house. She took me out to pick up pizza and let me rent a movie, I chose this one as I was into Jurassic Park at the time. Didn't get to finish the movie because parents came back sooner than expected.
That sucks. I saw this really young, my dad taped off hbo bc he knew how much i liked dinosaurs, but said that he needed to watch it first to make sure it was ok for me to watch since it was rated R. He never got around to it, so one day i was able to sneak it and watch it for myself. The ending has stuck with me my entire life. Its so grim, and i was probably like 8 or 9 at the time. Would my dad have approved? Hard to say. Probably not.
Anyone wish there was a remake that is closer to the novel with some changes and a happy ending also you excited for dinosaur empire
I think it could work great as a mini series. I'm fine with a grim ending, but I'd want a much more likeable protagonist. Changing him and the on again off again girlfriend into a married couple could do a lot of good.
I think so too a bigger budget film along with a videogame based off the book could work as well.
I don't mind the sad ending and both the film and the book have their own appeals. What I find odd though is how Jurassic Park was a big-budget classic but had very inaccurate science whereas Carnosaur was fairly low-budget schlock (the films, I haven't read the book yet) but had really accurate scientific explanations (at least accurate from what I've heard. Again, I haven't read the book).
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Anything that can be done about the bad guy's wife. Her desperate list was kinda off putting even with what the author was going for not mention taking up a decent chunk of the book.
@@Tarbtano AMC please!?
I'm always down to re-watch a video about Carnosaur. If it wasn't for this video I wouldn't have found out that they finally reprinted the Carnosaur novel, which I had been trying to get for a non-insane price for years. Great book, and I really love the first 2 Carnosaur films as well.
Lets bug diego to make a video about Primal Rage, its novelization is still sitting at $500 on Amazon 🙄
@@codexmachina1358Hey, I'm down. Primal Rage was a great game.
@@seanmckelvey6618 preach brother. Let's poke the bear. Happy I got the comics off eBay in like 2009 (I don't actually think the reason Carnosaur was reprinted bc of Diego but it is funny)
@@codexmachina1358even the CD-based console versions of the game are really going up in price lately. It's a shame whoever holds the rights now can't seem to be bothered to do anything new with it.
I would love to have a reboot that is much more faithful to the original novel.
Bro, thank you so much for making this. I've been fascinated with Carnosaur ever since I read about it in Dinosaurus magazine in 93 as a small kid (and saw it a few months later). These B-movies so seldom get the retrospectives they deserve.
This franchise is just insane ! Although there is a lot more going on behind the scene that first meets the eye.
NOT insane just a great idea too big for them to carry on. Which is why it was ignored for the other two fake sequels.
It returns! Easily the best coverage of the franchise yet and I adore all of the behind the scenes insights.
Could’ve sworn I saw this video months ago, realized it was a reupload! Good to see it back
Im so glad this is back up, this series actually made me go and watch the first film, and I enjoyed it more than I thought I would. thanks Diego for bringing it back!
Commenting to boost this re-uploaded version.
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So that's why I'm tripping
This movie DEFINITELY needs to be remastered. I always enjoyed it as a kid even when it scared the $hit out of me! I personally liked the second installment better even though it was an 'Aliens' rip-off but with DINOSAURS!!!
Sidenote: please don't forget to re-upload your part 2 of the franchise. When I noticed both parts had vanished from my playlist I was like "NOOOOO! TF!?!" but saw your post saying you had to take them down and re-upload them again.
Excellent job on your reviews by the way!!!
I saw it at 8 or 9 and the ending fucked with me. Id never seen anything like it before at the time
Remade by a better group continue the story they forgot.
I agree that this film should be remastered in HD and on Blu Ray.
Plus, it should be the more complete cut of *"CARNOSAUR"* which had several scenes that're not present in its current state.
1) The Extended Boardroom
scene after the opening credits.
(In the film's current edits, there
are two abrupt jump cuts which
you can hear in the audio)
2) Three deleted scenes involving "Doc" Smith & Ann "Thrush".
A.) Before Doc fell asleep drunk, he was to explain to Thrush why there's a rock quarry in the middle of nowhere.
B.) Doc & Thrush being in
Dr. Sterling Raven's office talking about themselves, before Raven
(with Sheriff Fowler) tells them that the critically-injured teen they found died from his wounds.
C.) Doc & Thrush were on a date in his trailer and had a kiss, before they had an argument resulting in Thrush leaving.
3) Doc trying to explain to Sheriff Fowler about what happened to the environmentalists, but Fowler doesn't believe him and needs to take him in for questioning. Doc then tricks the Sheriff into letting him use the restroom, but he got out and drove away in his motor-cycle.
(This explains why Doc tells Dr. Jane Tiptree later in the film that he has "half a dozen murders in his head".)
Great work putting this together and look forward to part 2. I, like a lot of kids who grew up in the 90's, loved dinosaurs, especially JP (and even Carnosaur). Carnosaur was one of those movies you watched to get your dino fix, after seeing Jurassic Park a million times. That being said, had my parents seen what was in that film, they would not have let me watch it. I was such a dinosaur nerd that the creature designs looked to inaccurate. Now that I hear about the BTS, I realize that was a conscious choice by Corman. It sounds like it was a labor of love by most people working on it, besides Roger's business angle.
Carnosaur is the closest we'll get to dino horror, even if it isn't like well done. I really hope that this trilogy gets a Blu-ray release soon.
Corman's contributions to movies can not be understated. The man gave Robert Di Nero, Martin Scorsese, Francis Ford Coppola, Ron Howard, Jack Nicholson, James Cameron, and tons more their first break in movies. They guy would take anyone to work for him no matter how fresh out of Berkley they were. It's mind blowing how important the guy who's motto was "Beast Boobs and Blood" was to the history of cinema.
DeZero needs a rope.
Not gonna lie, a Carnosaur film more in line with the book could given us a thriller-horror movie in the vein of Jaws, maybe with a message about the horrors humanity brings on the world as well as animal exploitation.
LETS GO REWATCH TIME!
Me too the second one is my favorite.
Wow I only just realized yesterday that the video had been taken down and was really bummed as it’s one of your best and now today it’s back. Good timing I guess.
i loved your rundown/deep dive of the carnosaur series
Dinosaurs and horror seem to work hand in hand.
1:15:39 Interesting to learn that Corman did feathered dinosaurs 30 years before Jurassic World Dominion. I also think I like this raptor design better than the Pyroraptor in Jurassic World Dominion.
Mah boi, Dilophosaurus went out with a cool death. A FV101 Scorpion took it out!
Having three different T Rex models didn't help this movie.
*WE NEED A REBOOT/REMAKE*
I agree a modern bug budget remake and seeing that capcom is alseep at the wheel a game based off the book as well could work as well.
The first movie created an end of humanity scenario that was just ignored. I wrote an expansion of it including intelligent dinosaurs being hatched from human females. The virus kills all men and makes all females pregnant with dinosaurs of her design.
The original Carnosaur will always be my favorite of the Trilogy. My grandma got this for one of my birthdays when I was probably too young to see it, LOL!! (Traumatized me for the longest time!!) But that trauma turned into love and admiration for this fun, gore-soaked lil' horror movie!!
Aw sweet Carnosaur
YESSSS thank you for bringing this back ❤️❤️❤️
I am watching this for the third time for some reason. I find this fascinating!
This is the most comprehensive video I've ever seen regarding the Carnosaur franchise. You've done something that I thought no one would ever do. Honestly, the novel and the story behind the making of the film is more interesting than the film itself.
Let me tell my own backstory on how I was introduced to the Carnosaur series and how it lead me to finally reading the novel.
My introduction to the series was actually the second film, sometime around 1999 or 2000, on one of the premium channels (probably Cinemax). Even though it didn't have the big budget of Jurassic Park, and was an obvious rip-off of Aliens, I still had a good time watching it and wanted to see the first film. Eventually, around 2000/2001, I was able to pick up a copy of the first Carnosaur at my local Suncoast video store (remember that place?) and watched it soon afterwards.
On my initial viewings of the film, I didn't like it that much. One of the things that ruined the film for me was when the women were literally laying dinosaur eggs. Even for a Roger Corman production, that was too campy for me to take the story seriously. But I will say this, Diane Ladd's performance was truly excellent. She was the best part of the film and didn't sleep walk through her lines. I also didn't like the ending, as I thought that the main lead was going to be victorious and save the girl and deliver the anti-virus. So, when he and the girl were killed off and the credits rolled, I thought "That's it?" I will say though, it was very creative to have the end credits scroll down whilst zooming into a burning picture of Alfred E. Neuman.
Aside from that, what was most interesting to me was that the opening credits stated that Carnosaur was based on a novel by Harry Adam knight. Sometime after watching the film, I looked up a synopsis of the novel online and was shocked at how different it was from the film (taking place in the U.K., the main character was a journalist, etc.). So with that in mind, I had to read the novel. The only problem was that it had been out of print for years and was really hard to come by. It wouldn't be until 2017/2018 when I was finally able to buy a used copy of the novel for a good price on Amazon and was able to read it. Overall, I really enjoyed the novel and noticed some similarities to it and the Jurassic Park novel. In my opinion, Crichton's novel was the more well written of the two, but they both make a great double read. I actually consider the Carnosaur novel to be an un-intentional prototype to Jurassic park.
A little piece of trivia:
The final act of Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom, where the rest of the film takes place during an auction at a private mansion, loosely reminded me of the sequence at Penward's mansion in the Carnosaur novel. Maybe they took a little inspiration? Who knows? It's also coincidental that Clint Howard was in the Carnosaur film, while his niece, Bryce Dallas Howard, was in the Jurassic World films.
I would love it if another filmmaker tried his or her hand at adapting the Carnosaur novel again, and make a more accurate adaptation this time. I would like it either as an animated or live-action BBC style miniseries (maybe get the animation studios who did the Castlevania series or the Star Wars Old Republic trailers to do it. Or, get the crew who made the live-action series, Primeval to do it).
Over the years, I have also warmed up to the Corman version of Carnosaur (even the ending). The film's premise about a man made virus that brings back dinosaurs is unique and interesting in its own way and would still make for an entertaining film or miniseries, but the execution still has problems (other than Diane Ladd and the music). If I were to re-make the film's premise, I might do something like this:
The story would be a miniseries split into three arcs. Arc 01 (Season 01) would focus on the plague and how it starts to reduce the human population. The women wouldn't give birth to dinosaur eggs, but to live young that are dinosaur/human hybrids. The inspiration for that comes from the late Paleontologist, Dr. Dale Russell, who theorized that had the dinosaurs not gone extinct, they would've evolved to look more humanoid.
The second arc would focus on the aftermath of the plague, with the last pockets of humanity trying to survive as the new hybrids start to learn at an accelerated rate and begin to build their own civilization.
The third and final arc would focus on the "New Order," where the hybrids have created a whole new society and have become the most intelligent and dominating life-forms on the planet.
Admittedly, my idea takes a little inspiration from Planet of The Apes, and was thought of very quickly, but I at least tried to make it its own thing. Still, that's what I would've done and would like to see it get made one day (either as an animated project, or a live-action project).
Let me know what you think about my comment and my ideas.
Again, well done.
Holy shit i have that hot blooded dinosaur movie book
Someone somewhere needs to sort out a proper re-release of this, these movies are verging on being lost media at this point. Virtually out of print on DVD, with no HD blu ray ever produced and so far as I'm aware completely unavailable on streaming. It's not like they're cinematic masterpieces, but people still put hard work into these, and so few dino films even try to go the horror route that Carnosaur's still genuinely quite unique.
the movies 100% need a re-print on physical media, or at the very least put on a streaming service of some kind. It's a shame they're so hard to find in decent quality online and the DVDs have shot up in price. I'm glad I grabbed mine when I did.
I kinda want to track down the Carnosaur book now.
Great video!
R.I.P. Roger Corman.
It's back! WOO
I don't wanna just copy and paste my comment from the OG upload, but I will say I love the original Carnosaur. It's a unique movie and I can't help but enjoy it. I find it to be a legitimately good movie with some interesting ideas and some great foreshadowing and other cool stuff if you pay close attention.
The sequels... exist I guess
I adore Carnosaur, but C2 is fantastic.
I would have preferred the sequels to continue the Triptree holocaust instead of ignoring it.
Greetings Green Brother.
When it comes to enjoyable bad films the Carnosaur trilogy is a great time overall the 2nd one is my favorite. I also recommend the book as well I read it in Grade 10 for my personal reading project in English Class
Ah come on, they're not really bad films. Cheap & a bit cheesy sure, but not really "bad". Carnosaur 3 though, that is very much a bad film.
@seanmckelvey6618 I like the second one the most but 3 was bad all around interesting fact my family met Scott Valentine in Hawaii back in 1990.
I was wondering where this video went!
I was hoping you'd talk about this series
The series wasn't. Ignored the first to go their own way.
The movie before Jurassic Park (1993)
7:37 "who lives in a small english town" while the most american town ever is on screen😂
I want a proper Carnosaur 4
Brilliant, dude!!
I hope Carnosaur remake one day.
I hope to see a comic book adaptation of the first three Carnosaur movies as well as a sequel comic book called Carnosaur the missing link that picks up where the third movie left off, what publisher should make a Carnosaur comic book
@@roostthecockatiel5227 I like the idea of it
@@jasonsantos3037 me too, but who would publish such a comic book, what comic book publisher is willing to do it
@@roostthecockatiel5227 My favorite will be Dark Horse Comics it'll be a good publisher or you got better ideas
@@jasonsantos3037 dark horse would be nice and maybe add some continuity too
I'd love to see a comic book adaptation of all three Carnosaur movies as well as a sequel comic book called Carnosaur the missing link
Love this series
yeah, i remember watching this movie a while back, from the start i thought this movie was a B movie rip off of jurassic park so i expected to be in that similar nature of dinosaur action, what i was not expecting was the dino pregnancy stuff and how gory this movie was. this movie kind of traumatized me.
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Diego is now officially a pookie Bear
Reminds of possible Jurassic park sequel ideas, and one idea included human-dinosaur hybrids …. Now between this, and the Jurassic world franchise, I think we can hit something horrifying
Can you please do a The hunter primal video ?
Can you review the horror paleo thread "Weird Birds" by Archesuchus?
I love that! The twitter post style of story telling was refreshing as I'd never seen anything like that before, i hope diego sees this, weird birds easily is some of my favorite dino stuff in recent memory
It is no longer Carnover
Cosidering EVERYTHING that happened, i think that Carnosaur turned out beign quite decent.
Heck ya
Cool
Bruh you instaclicked on the notif just to say cool.
@@skeetskeet9601 And?
So we're not going to mention how in the novel the Dilophosaur kills a Member of Parliament after breaking into his home?
This might sound odd, but what if they made an Until Dawn/The Quarry type game based on the Carnosaur book?
That would be amazing!
WE ARE BALLIN
Carnosaur rules.
I have to admit I never liked Carnosaur because the dinosaur is a generic one and, after this review, I still don't like it, not for me. But still I can see how important it was for the history of paleomedia
Will it get a blu ray remastered
Is dinosaur island part of the series? If so how they get the eggs off the island for the doc to play God a question I have asked for years
Sounds like these two authors suffered from convergent evolution.
Carnosaur is hilarious, but it's not so bad it's good. It's a pretty trailer park quality decent film that's funny and rough around the edges, and in the bedroom.
Wtf I live right next to that dinasaur park and I had no idea
Ahh yes, the domineering species known as *REUPLOADSAURUS REX*
hating a movie for being made to capitalize on another movie is dumb and I don't think we should tell them why most movies are made today.
As much as I want to check out the first Carnosaur movie, I feel that Roger Corman did the author of the original book dirty by appropriating his book's title without actually adapting the story (and then misleading the author into thinking he was going to actually contribute to the movie). That's just wrong in my book.
That's exactly what Corman did. But regardless of what he did, keep in mind that Carnosaur was not a cash grab for everyone involved. Both Simon and Buechler clearly saw things differently and tried their best with what they had. In that sense, I feel like Carnosaur is worth checking out. But that's just me.
I was the kid who's parents was to broke for jurassic park and rented it for me at blockbuster
I remember being confused as hell watching the the first 3 movies cause I swear two of them were the exact same film.
Why was this taken down?
My day is better
I was wondering what happened to it, I assume copyright reasons.
mad scientist or the hero of the frachise
I wanna ask Tiptree a very important question. She hates humanity because "They destroy the planet" but the dinosaurs were killed off by a natural phenomenon that they lacked the intelligence and ability to stop. See humans have the potential to stop things like giant asteroids striking the Earth, dinosaurs do not. Also does she not realize her dinosaurs will compete and most likely wipe out other native species causing massive environmental damage. That's kinda one issue I have with this film. The villain's logic and writing make zero sense.
So do we wasting our resources on wars and pollution changing the atmosphere. How would we know if the dinos escaped to another planet?
She was twisted by her antihumanism and though the dinos deserve to finish their reign. She wasn't thinking rationally.
I call it Billy and the cloneasaurs
But what about Dinosaur Park from 2000 AD
You used some of my Sense of Scale interview with Tony Doublin. I didn't see any credit nor was I asked for permission. Instead of going around and doing your own interviews, you just take bits and pieces of other people's work and edit it together?
I was pulling from multiple sources that had information on the Carnosaur franchise that wasn't available anywhere else. However, I did collect every video source I used in my video and linked them in the description. It was not my intent to use the footage for anything but educating people on the film. If there's any changes you'd like me to make regarding the section with your video, I'd be willing to discuss it further with you
Kansas City Missouri my friend. Not Minnesota.
welp, guess imma have to trash the video XD
I like the Jurassic Park movie better than carnosaur but the book is better
Piranha, you mean the same one that had multiple different movies
I am not impressed the movie is far different from the book it is based on. There were dinosaurs than only t-rex, raptor, and deinonychus, the novel having more dinosaurs in comparison is really something.
I don't think anyone was, but considering who made it, it should be expected XD
@@DinoDiego16 the opening shot of the movie did have an eerie soundtrack that was catchy. Almost sounds like an evening preparation in silence.
Obviously Jurassic Park didn't rip off Carnosaur, it was a ripoff of Billy and the Clonosaurous.
Seems like Michael Crichton stole some scenes from this book
Or they both were thinking in the same way.
@@randallbesch2424 Nope... there is no such thing as coincidences
Jurasic Park *did* use DNA fragments from fossil fragments. Its why he went to Alan Grant. Because he was already funding him and getting junk fossils from him. I dont remember if the mosquito amber was in the book but the fossil stuff was. The dna was also put into supercomputers and compared to modern animals. First lizards and such then birds.
This isnt to say Michael stole the idea. Likely its just convergent ideas independently creating a trope. Like how else do you bring dinos back?
It feels like the big difference between them is Chrichton wanted to make a scifi with a message. That message being that capitalism is bad for science and should be kept out of it.
I’d say both authors ripped The Isle of Dr. Monroe.
Like all Westerns are rip offs of penny dreadfuls. BS
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26:40 I'm pretty sure there was a Judge Dredd storyline in 1978 with a DNA-dinosaur theme park
Not sure and not made.
MAFA 🇺🇲
Will it get a blu ray remastered