Carnosaur: A Dinosaur Horror Retrospective (Part 2)
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- 1993's Carnosaur would become a massive success for Concorde-New Horizons and as a result, it would spawn a rather unconventional franchise of movies, some of which are directly connected to the original and others, very loosely connected. But they include cavewomen, dinosaurs roaming the streets of LA, a LOT of reused assets and scenes, and a whole lot of cheesy effects and acting.
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Carnosaur 2 Behind-The-Scenes/Interviews
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To anyone confused:
This is a reupload from an original version that was initially released on Halloween of 2023. I had to take that version down. There were plans to wait even longer until officially re-releasing the videos, but I was able to shift some things around and finally work on them this week. Check out Part 1 if you haven't seen it yet. You can find it here: ruclips.net/video/9MI-DpDoR4k/видео.html
Your patience for these videos has been greatly appreciated. I'm happy they're back up.
U should definitely do primitive war sometime in the future actually maybe you could make it your Halloween special if you don’t have anything already planned
Yeah maybe when I get the chance. I have no real desire to cover it anytime soon though
Its all good
I dint even know it was a reupload lol
When it comes to the original trilogy Carnosaur 2 is my favorite as well that I still revisit when I can. I remember watching the second one alot when I was a kid.
That "you've got a fucking problem ?" was so out of character, i laught so hard ! you made my day Diego ; and i'm grieving a friend, kudo's to you
In fact, the final alternate scene of Raptor, I can assure you that there is that scene that they showed on TV in my country, Mexico! That was back in 2004, I think.
I never forgot the scene where both characters come out of a container naked or semi-naked.
Years later on the internet I tried to look for that scene and when I saw Carnosaur 2, it turns out that there is no such story there lol.
Unfortunately that's all I can remember, I just know that the movie was broadcast on "Canal 5" . But I always thought I imagined that scene or it was from another science fiction movie, it turns out that all this time in my childhood I was watching Raptor and not Carnosaur 2😂.
Edit: I finally see the alternative scene after two decades while watching your video, Thank you for releasing a memory that I thought I imagined!
Carnosaur deserves a reboot
I agree a modern big budget reboot that follows the book more.
made by Spielberg, and Corman should reboot Jurassic Park
Such twist of fate would be surreal and extraordinary
It sure deserves a remake due to that I find it the Carnosaur film to be underrated but the only thing we wished is that if there is a remake of this film it should have followed the novel
Carnosaur and Carnosaur 2 still to my favorite.
Woah, cave woman honkers out for all to see? Radical!
Yup, my mother probably regretted renting this moving for me when I was 10
The only Carnosaur movie I own is 2, super pricey nowadays. These really need a proper HD remaster and Blu-Ray boxset!
As much as I hate to say it these movies deserve to be remade even with a modest budget by today's standards as far as effects have come through the years just imagine what they could do it could kind of be a showcase of how low budget affects were then versus now
Indeed
true story:
my fiancé and I watched Jurassic Park today bc it my birthday, and after a typo we started talking about Carnosaur and I used info from the first part when talking about it
so thank you, Dino Diego. you made me look very impressive(/j) in front of my fiancé
Carnosaur 2 is objectively the better film in many ways, but I still think I prefer the first movie overall. I totally get why most people prefer Carnosaur 2 though.
Carnosaur 1 and 2 are good b movies 👍
Aliens is better ur right
@@darrenjohnston4511Alien is better than Aliens. Fight me.
yeah, i remember carnosaur 2 the most because i remember they used dolphin noises for the raptor sounds. this movie series really needs a modern day remake more faithful to the book, we need a movie to make dinosaurs scary again.
I dont mind rewatching.......... wide carnosaur
We BE BALLIN
Thank you, for the last four years I've been unable to remember the name of the haunted sea. I saw it was a kid and I was starting to think it was fever dream. Now I just have to track it down . Thank you
One of my favorite small details between the C2 and Aliens similarities is that the government agent in C2 has the exact same outfit as Burke in Aliens
Growing up watching these movies dinosaurs island and carnosaurs 3 are my favorites I love how campy this is
My favorite carnosaur
i really enjoyed this retrospective - learning about low budg' movies means hearing about SO MANY interesting stories. I already sub to channels like FanboyFlicks (for Weird Movies with Mark) and Brandon's Cult Movie Reviews, so I get the appeal of a fun old B-Movie, but the fact that they have to use so many tricks to get made is what makes them so much fun to talk about too. I mean, jeez, seeing that sets from the Flintstones movie weren't entirely taken down yet, and going, "Go! Shoot today! USE THEM!" is *amazing!* That's how making movies should be - fun. The people behind these films may be professionals and have a lot of skills when it comes to making monsters and puppets and animatronics, but... when you hear stories like that, it's clear they're also still stuck in that mentality of a bunch of kids just grabbing a camcorder and making movies together because it's fun. I love that! Definitely gonna go poke around internet archive or maybe even Tubi - I know Tubi has a load of Shout Factory content (including MST3K), so if anywhere is going to have Carnosaur or Raptors or Dinosaur Island, I bet they would. And hey, if not, there's always internet archive ;) Thanks for that tip, and thanks for the great video retrospective!
Resisting the urge to watch The Haunted Sea and fuel my dinosur B movie addiction
Oh man I remember watching Carnosaur 2. I remember picking it up at the DVD rental place thinking it was a cool dino movie like Jurassic Park or King Kong 2005, but I was VERY off-put by the strange, uncanny looking shitty dinos which freaked me out more than they should have, not to mention the unexpected gore element. One of my childhood traumas I'd say. It was probably my first real exposure to gore in film.
Dinosaur Ranch could be a spiritual successor because it does have the carnosaur vision and I don't understand why people don't talk about this movie more
The Version of Raptor with the alternate ending was released on DVD in the UK by Film 2000 which i have in my collection
WE NEED A REBOOT PEOPLE!!
Agreed a big budget reboot and a new videogame closer to the book.
@@Saint3188 YES!
Hell yeah and we definitely hope that it followed the novel if there is a remake of Carnosaur
Carnosaur 2 and 3 need a blu-ray release!
The "Dinosaurs containing human DNA" would have been a fun story element if they actually thought about it for a few minutes.
They could have revisited the idea of the eggs coming from the women infected with the virus in the first film. So the baby Carnosaurs that grew in those eggs inherited the human DNA from their "mothers"...
In the comments for Part 1 I mentioned how a Carnosaur film based more on the book could've given us a more Jaws-esque horror thriller, but honestly, after hearing about Carnosaur 2 basically being Aliens with dinosaurs and that Raptor itself was more in line in a sense to the book and seeing that revised book cover, it gave me a wonderfully disturbing idea of how you could create a film more akin to the book while retaining elements of the original films.
Along with following the beats of the book, I say include more varied species than in the real book. You could then use that along with the Aliens inspiration and how the army footage is used in Raptor to create a genius way of utilizing the horror of dinosaurs overrunning a small English town. Instead of the dinos being taken out easily by the military, the army could instead come in to help but the dinos somehow manage to both evade and pick them off one by one, creating an ominous sense of tension and helplessness as the humans initially fail to defeat something so 'primitive.' Of course they'd still mostly be killed off like in the book, but like with Aliens and Carnosaur 2 you could now build up those kills into a greater sense of catharsis when they finally happen.
But it's the cover that gave me the greatest idea. Not only does the idea of dinos stalking, hiding in, and pouncing at people within a city suburb sounds like great horror, but I'm going to be honest, it made think of Stephen King's novel turned film, Cujo. This is largely because of Casual Geographic's recent video on animal diseases that talks about just how terrifying rabies truly is, and how if not treated quickly it has almost (keyword 'almost') a 100% fatality rate.
So how does this factor into Carnosaur?
Simple.
Diego mentioned in the first half how the first Carnosaur had a plan so that the dinosaurs were planned to be a tool to lead up to something more terrifying, and how Tiptree had created a virus that impregnated women to birth dinosaurs. The latter is definitely too campy and ridiculous to be taken seriously, but after doing some research, I realized something.
Dinosaurs are birds.
Birds are non-avian dinosaurs.
And while rabies is thought of as a whole mammalian disease, it has been scientifically proven that birds can not only carry rabies, but are, quote, "largely, if not wholly, asymptomatic." This includes chickens, which just so happen to be in the beginning of both the book and the film.
Both Penward and Tiptree want the dinosaurs to retake the world from humanity in some form, but you could take advantage of the latter's want to speed up the process through a much more grounded and arguably more realistic manner, possibly through the villain implanting/introducing the rabies virus into the dinosaur eggs or hatchlings much like how it can happen in chickens. Rabies infected animals are already terrifying when it's just a rabid dog or fox frothing at the mouth. Now imagine that you not only have to deal with dinosaurs, but dinosaurs that could possibly infect anyone they attack with a deadly virus, and you have no way of knowing if they even carry it or not because they don't show symptoms. Now no one is truly safe even they do survive a dinosaur attack.
Like I said in the comments for Part 1, you could capsulate this horror with message about the horrors humanity brings on the world as well as animal exploitation. These dinos weren't born to be killers, they were specifically made that way, and that nature could never come up with something so horrifying and inhumane, being even more poignant in how it's being used to harm other humans. It would leave the audience having to ask themselves, "if people are willing to twist the rules of nature for a means to destroy other people, what does that say about what they do to the animals and the world itself?"
And that, my friends, is a truly horrifying thought.
fun fact: 2006 movie Scorpius Gigantus is literally a shot for shot remake of Carnosaur 3 with raptors being replaced by giant cgi scorpion. produced by Corman of course (rip)
Holy shit, it even stars Jeff Fahey, who also appeared in The Eden Formula. I love these kinds of movies XD. Thanks for that piece of trivia!
In the UK DVD version of Raptor, that has the extended clone twist ending.
That’s the copy I ended up with, interestingly enough.
Tbh despite the fact that the Carnosaur franchise is not as recognizable as the Jurassic park franchise I do find it underrated but only the first three films
I saw these films along with raptor and raptor ranch on the syfy channel and was genuinely confused. They're all almost the same movie and I thought I was losing my mind with seeing same scenes and same props and similar scripts
Now the fun begins
Roger Corman died this year at the age of 98.
2:08 I believe it would be pronounced “Sharkensaw” but still ridiculous either way
Carnosaur 3 seems to get a lot of hate, but it’s my personal fav one (although I love all 3). It just seems to largely get forgotten about because the first was a cultural phenomenon, and the second is famous specifically for being ‘Aliens but with dinosaurs’, and then the third largely gets ignored. It at least has its own story, and I think shows off the dinosaur suits the most. But again, I do enjoy all three quite a bit, lol
Everyone's entitled to their own opinions. Personally for me though, having your own story doesn't automatically make you a better movie. And even if the suits were shown off more, I felt like Carnosaur 2 was more creative in how it showed off their dinosaur props. But that's just me
I don't have a problem with the carnosaur series
Carnosaur 1 and 2 are good.
The second one was my favorite
The first three films are definitely great and underrated but the rest of the other sequels/spin offs like raptor and Eden formula are overrated but the thing we hoped is that if there is Carnosaur remake the only thing that we truly wish is that it followed the novel
On my french dvd, the ending scene with clones is present. Also, the Russian dvd is the extended cut (the tits scene is something like 10 min longer).
ext mit deiner Kamera übersetzen
Carnosaur 2 is probably the best known and most popular part of the whole series, in Germany alone it was often shown on television and became well known and popular when it was released on VHS in 1995, even though it didn't have a budget of millions, it was and is very popular outside of it the USA, through this film we in Europe really understood that there is also a part 1 and part 3 of Carnosaur! Carnosaur 2 is no Masterpice Like Jurassic Park,just a Aliens Rip off, But a film that was often shown in the 90s and 2000s by the big German TV channels and called it the little but great brother of Jurassic Park! Carnosaur 2 is probably more popular abroad than where it comes from, great little dinosaur film, I've loved it since I saw it as a little child when I watched my father's VHS at night :)
Hey dude think you should try to explain the rare ice age documentary about the La bera trap pits
This is great!!
I have an idea for a video, do a video about chap mei's Dino quest, Dino valley, and stone age dinosaurs toy lines, if you never heard of chap mei, they're a toy company in Hong Kong that makes a lot of neat toy lines, just Google some stuff about them
This one maybe a rip-off of aliens with house similar the plot is but if you're going to borrow borrow from the best
Is Back
I would love to know more about the book via this channel 03o
SharKansas? Hmmmmmmmm. as a kansas resident..... hmmmmmmm.
Watch Raptor for Melissa Brasselle.
Not ashamed
I actually enjoy Carnosaur 3 more than the first. I realize this is a hot take for many, but the first film is just far too convoluted and ambitious for the type of movie that it was. What's more, is the women giving birth to dinosaur was in my opinion, just plain dumb and sort of took away from the dinosaur stuff. 2 and 3 while still cheap and shameless with their ripping off of Aliens, still managed to be far more entertaining and overall more enjoyable than the original.
I still remember going to Blockbuster and wasting money to rent that trash Raptor film.
🤫🧏♂️🗿bye bye🔥🔥
Can you talk about Jurassic Park to world
no
@@DinoDiego16 why not
because he's too tired@@looneytrainsdinosaurs
@@godzilla44556 oh OH
@looneytrainsdinosaurs yep he's very lazy he very very very very very tired
the dinosaurs int he second film look way better.
1:07:30 man I hope that was reused by somebody because that is too good to use on just one movie and then never use again