Too complicated and most the time unnecessary as your bidding process and final number should include job sequencing/ set up, tear down, and the final cleanup. When using fair and optimal production rates, your craftspeople should be able/fast enough to beat the estimated budget hours, I never bid separately for say, slower completion rates/touch-ups and/or clean up, however, if you not bidding based on specific accurate production rates then that’s a good to place you have to start, you have to start with that process. Maybe for larger jobs and/or projects that are not in your daily wheel house then yes adding extra hours and/or additional cost per side/per area for difficult scenario’s or the unknown makes sense adding adjustments for “Extras” like special equipment costs makes sense to me but having a solid number that covers all the costs, your clients needs and make the job successful that works seamlessly is no brainer for me🎤
You said free. Thought maybe paint a house or two to make ends meet. First off, I salute you. Very professional and educational. Glad I inquired,myself never tackling a project for a profit as a possiblity to be recognized. Finally, didn't have to find out the hard way.
It's unfortunate everyone doesn't do their estimates like this. Pretty difficult when you're bidding against a guy with a truck and a paint brush charging $30 and hour and giving the client the paint at cost. I can't tell you the amount of jobs I've estimated like this where I'm 50% more bc the other guy's just bidding his hours. Especially lately when clients mortgage payments have doubled and they're willing to take the lowest price 10 times out of 10.
I normally just get a sqaure footage and I bill per coat of there is 2000 square foot I normally bill 1 per sq per coat so if I spray it or roll it out it’s 4000$ plus I add on for paint and mark up the material by 30-50% so the average house and garage that’s a 1800 square foot house 2 car garage I’m normally 8-9k on it.
Body of the house: Use # of Siding hours for # gallons Trim of the house: Use 2-8 gallons depending on the size of house, amount of trim Calculating the labor hours: 1. Square footage divided by 200 is about how many hours it will take to paint. Divide by 150 if it’s a solid stain or stucco. 2. Linear footage divided by 40 is about how many hours it will take to paint. For fascia divided by 40. For eaves divide by 75. If the eaves a different color from the body of the house divide by 40. 3. Prep work hours range from 6 hours at the very least for a small house in good condition to 50 hours for a large house in terrible condition. (Avoid any lead based paint - homes built before 1976). You’re targeting houses that were built 10-15 years ago, so you should normally be in the 8-20 hours of prep work range.
I'm not seeing this approach working all the time. Take a house 40 by 25 by 8 feet tall exterior walls with no trim (say block home) . With your method it would take 5 hours to spray, say 4 hours of prep, for good measure lets through an extra 2 hours on top for a total of 11 hours total. Plus 6 gallons of paint say $60 per gal =$360 materials and $220 labor labor and materials $580 multiplied by 2.4= $1,392 total price of job? just deduct the material cost from that price =$1,032 . I couldn't get some one to do it for that price forget about making anything. Did I miss something?. Thank you all the same I appreciate all the content.
The way I do is get the sq ft of surface area, and look at cost of labor per sq ft in local area. Then add materials. I just bid a 3500 sq ft surface area exterior for 4500 plus material cost, roughly 7k. I can do that in a week, week in a week without working like crazy. That’s a pretty good profit margin
@@mattyice9923Just curious is that a two coat pant job say stucco back rolled or like hardie board exterior one thick coat. You are roughly $2 per square foot with materials does that sound right? Thank you.
@@Chad-r2t I just do it separately, so I’ll give my bid for labor which is actually cheap compared to other companies in finding out. Then talk about the product they want to use, if they want to save money that’s how they’re gonna do that. I’ll toss in a freebie bc I know painting can be expensive. Besides if my brother and I paint that home in a week, profiting 2k plus a piece that’s really good . So doing a favor for a customer let’s them know you’re there for them and not just the money
@@Chad-r2t but yes I 2 coat everything. Give it a good pressure wash, and I’ll just work on one side at a time. I’ll be doing the fascia and gutters actually first of the whole house, then just complete one side at a time. Do one side a day, not working crazy hours but get enough work done in a day
Forgive my ignorance, but I have a question. When you mark up your quote by 2.4, where do you include that amount on your quote? In other words, how does it appear on your quote when you give it to the homeowner? Thanks!
Just the price after the markup is what is presented. When you go on Amazon go buy something you just see the price you pay - you don’t see their costs. Same with your customers.
One really good coat of paint. It’s bid for about 1.5 the recommended coverage for most paints. So if the paint company recommends 300 square feet per gallon we are bidding 200.
Estimating and then what you actually pay are two separate things. For example, if I estimate a house will take 40 hours, but you do it faster then you make more money. Our best painters make over $30/hour.
That’s not square footage - it’s the square footage of the area being painted. And that’s just spraying the body. So 2700 square feet of body is 13.5 hours. $270 for labor. Before markup. Roughly $600 to spray 2700 square feet of siding.
You're wasting your own time dog you got a Lamborghini in your picture but I guarantee you ain't got one in real life but you can't sit down for 2 minutes and learn something you'll never have that Lamborghini with that mindset
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I also include set up and break down/clean up. 1-2 hours per working day.
Too complicated and most the time unnecessary as your bidding process and final number should include job sequencing/ set up, tear down, and the final cleanup. When using fair and optimal production rates, your craftspeople should be able/fast enough to beat the estimated budget hours, I never bid separately for say, slower completion rates/touch-ups and/or clean up, however, if you not bidding based on specific accurate production rates then that’s a good to place you have to start, you have to start with that process. Maybe for larger jobs and/or projects that are not in your daily wheel house then yes adding extra hours and/or additional cost per side/per area for difficult scenario’s or the unknown makes sense adding adjustments for “Extras” like special equipment costs makes sense to me but having a solid number that covers all the costs, your clients needs and make the job successful that works seamlessly is no brainer for me🎤
Do you consider exterior linear trim to be charged separately eg fascia/soffits/frieze etc. OR in one grouped pass for 40/hr.
This video is a big generalization. For the purposes here, 40 feet per hour for anything that’s trim which would usually include fascia and gutters.
You said free. Thought maybe paint a house or two to make ends meet. First off, I salute you. Very professional and educational. Glad I inquired,myself never tackling a project for a profit as a possiblity to be recognized. Finally, didn't have to find out the hard way.
It's unfortunate everyone doesn't do their estimates like this. Pretty difficult when you're bidding against a guy with a truck and a paint brush charging $30 and hour and giving the client the paint at cost. I can't tell you the amount of jobs I've estimated like this where I'm 50% more bc the other guy's just bidding his hours. Especially lately when clients mortgage payments have doubled and they're willing to take the lowest price 10 times out of 10.
I normally just get a sqaure footage and I bill per coat of there is 2000 square foot I normally bill 1 per sq per coat so if I spray it or roll it out it’s 4000$ plus I add on for paint and mark up the material by 30-50% so the average house and garage that’s a 1800 square foot house 2 car garage I’m normally 8-9k on it.
thanks for the informative video will follow on the estimate guides
Is there more advanced version? Doesnt have for brick or 2nd floor or for spraying
We have a lot more detail in the training in our program but I don’t have anything more detailed that’s free
I just do a flat $2 a square foot for everything. Is that bad?
It’s not ideal. It won’t be as accurate as doing everything by more detailed measurement
@ 5:51 Did you mean 12 hours to paint body = 12 gal. for BODY (not trim?)
Body of the house: Use # of Siding hours for # gallons
Trim of the house: Use 2-8 gallons depending on the size of house, amount of trim
Calculating the labor hours:
1. Square footage divided by 200 is about how many hours it will take to paint. Divide by 150 if it’s a solid stain or stucco.
2. Linear footage divided by 40 is about how many hours it will take to paint. For fascia divided by 40. For eaves divide by 75. If the eaves a different color from the body of the house divide by 40.
3. Prep work hours range from 6 hours at the very least for a small house in good condition to 50 hours for a large house in terrible condition. (Avoid any lead based paint - homes built before 1976). You’re targeting houses that were built 10-15 years ago, so you should normally be in the 8-20 hours of prep work range.
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1500/day is what I aim for . If I think it’s going to be three days with prep. 4500 for labor. Work down from there
I'm not seeing this approach working all the time. Take a house 40 by 25 by 8 feet tall exterior walls with no trim (say block home) . With your method it would take 5 hours to spray, say 4 hours of prep, for good measure lets through an extra 2 hours on top for a total of 11 hours total. Plus 6 gallons of paint say $60 per gal =$360 materials and $220 labor labor and materials $580 multiplied by 2.4= $1,392 total price of job? just deduct the material cost from that price =$1,032 . I couldn't get some one to do it for that price forget about making anything. Did I miss something?. Thank you all the same I appreciate all the content.
The way I do is get the sq ft of surface area, and look at cost of labor per sq ft in local area. Then add materials. I just bid a 3500 sq ft surface area exterior for 4500 plus material cost, roughly 7k. I can do that in a week, week in a week without working like crazy. That’s a pretty good profit margin
@@mattyice9923Just curious is that a two coat pant job say stucco back rolled or like hardie board exterior one thick coat. You are roughly $2 per square foot with materials does that sound right? Thank you.
@@Chad-r2t I just do it separately, so I’ll give my bid for labor which is actually cheap compared to other companies in finding out. Then talk about the product they want to use, if they want to save money that’s how they’re gonna do that. I’ll toss in a freebie bc I know painting can be expensive. Besides if my brother and I paint that home in a week, profiting 2k plus a piece that’s really good . So doing a favor for a customer let’s them know you’re there for them and not just the money
@@Chad-r2t but yes I 2 coat everything. Give it a good pressure wash, and I’ll just work on one side at a time. I’ll be doing the fascia and gutters actually first of the whole house, then just complete one side at a time. Do one side a day, not working crazy hours but get enough work done in a day
@@mattyice9923 Sounds like a good approach thank you for sharing 👍
Forgive my ignorance, but I have a question. When you mark up your quote by 2.4, where do you include that amount on your quote? In other words, how does it appear on your quote when you give it to the homeowner? Thanks!
Just the price after the markup is what is presented.
When you go on Amazon go buy something you just see the price you pay - you don’t see their costs. Same with your customers.
@@PaintingBusinessPro Thank you! I was making this WAY more complicated that necessary!
Good lord you guys order ALOT of paint
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200 sqft per hour for siding? This production rate is for 1 coat of paint?
Yea. Includes masking and prep for spraying. Good painters should "beat" that production rate. Estimating and production are 2 different things.
How much for a one story home maybe like 3 bedroom 2 bathrooms
Painting exterior only
Not enough info for a price. Go check out our exterior estimating videos
Is this for a single coat of paint?
One really good coat of paint. It’s bid for about 1.5 the recommended coverage for most paints. So if the paint company recommends 300 square feet per gallon we are bidding 200.
Wow I'm glad I don't work for him I will not work for less than 28 a hour
Estimating and then what you actually pay are two separate things. For example, if I estimate a house will take 40 hours, but you do it faster then you make more money. Our best painters make over $30/hour.
This is making no sense how as a company am I making money 2700 sq ft/ 200= 13.5 $300 no way
That’s not square footage - it’s the square footage of the area being painted. And that’s just spraying the body.
So 2700 square feet of body is 13.5 hours. $270 for labor. Before markup. Roughly $600 to spray 2700 square feet of siding.
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I've been a painter for 40 years. I get $600 Per room including ceiling walls and trim. Including materials.
What state?
Wasting my time
You're wasting your own time dog you got a Lamborghini in your picture but I guarantee you ain't got one in real life but you can't sit down for 2 minutes and learn something you'll never have that Lamborghini with that mindset
Wake up
If this vidoe is eating your time then why are you watching it and more importantly why are you responding to the comments that says more about your own self than anything else 😂
@@dimamarianyou're sad man. Bring that rental back to the shop.
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