Press F to pay respects to the greatest hero of all the Emerald solo runs... that brave Magikarp that has to be sacrificed so that MDB can complete the Mossdeep Gym. 😢
So, I just wanna say how much I love Relicanth. Pokémon really took one look at the Coelacanth fish and said "yup, that is a pokémon, no changes needed". The Coelacanth was known to us from fossils for years. We were so confident that it was extinct that the Natural History Museum in London had a coelacanth carved into its walls as an example of extinction. Then one day it turned up in a fish market. Now we know there are 2 species of coelacanths swimming about out there. It's that trope of finding some hidden sanctuary filled with ancient predators, but instead of massive megalodons or T. rex it's just a big ol' fish who's chill. Love this animal, and love this pokémon. It's been a long week, this video made my day, and I got a chance to rant about relicanth's real life counterpart. Thank you MDB. :)
If they every add a platypus, I do hope they just stick it in the game like relicanth. Water/Poison type, give it a buffed Shockwave, make it blue (or teal like Perry), and call it like Platyprick or smn and boom, pokemon
My favourite overlooked Pokemon is Skarmory. It was introduced in Gen 2! Very few people found it until Gen 3, since it was only on the route south of Blackthorn, which you never have to visit since you've just beaten the eighth gym and are probably going to fly back to New Bark Town rather than taking a mountain path.
Over half the pokemon in Gen 2 are overlooked because of their terrible placement or spawn rates combined with their terrible stats. Aipom is only a 20% chance in a few headbut trees, slugma is in Kanto and only ever 5% besides route 17 during daytime where it gets a nice boost to a whopping 35% encounter rate. Yanma is only a 1% encounter on route 35, misdreavus is only in mount silver at night with a 5, 10, or 30% encounter rate based on the game and room, quillfish is only available with the super rod, again post e4, and a 10% chance. Most people assume these are all gen 3 or 4 pokemon becuase they got new evolutions in gen 4 or were way more common in gen 3 like slugma.
Because of those reasons, I thought till Gen 8, that skarmory is a Gen 3 Pokemon. I met this bird in ruby the first time. 😄 Especially gold was my very first game as a kid.
Not only that, but its a version exclusive and there isn't a single trainer with one in the game. Because of this, I for the longest time thought it was a Gen 3 pokemon
I really appreciate that he records a new one every time. I would probably never notice if he reused footage but it’s one big thing that brings me back every week
8:15 since he has done 29 ruby or emerald runs that means he has spent about 290 minutes or almost 5 hours doing that stupid gag and from the bottom of my heart thank you
In Pokemon Pearl, there is NO trainer with a Lumineon (the blue fish pokemon introduced that gen), there are it's pre-evolved form "Finneon", but no Lumineon. I was attempting to complete the regional dex, and got completely stumped (this was back in the 00s, before the internet was as easy to access as today), but my dad was a truck driver, and I was able to access the internet on one of those old "idle air" computers (look it up) and finally figure out what the missing pokemon in my pokedex was.
I could have sworn that in gen 4, you were able to see every Pokemon just through Trainer battles, letting you at least fill out that part of the Pokedex without trading or anything. And I distinctly remember there being a Lumineon Trainer because that was also my last missing Pokemon from the Pokedex. I don't recall if I was able to look it up at the time or what, but I double checked just now. There is actually a Trainer with a Lumineon in Diamond and Pearl. Route 223, leading from Sunnyshore to the Pokemon League, has Swimmer Miranda. I believe she's actually the first one you come across, but she swims back and forth. Her only Pokemon is a level 43 Lumineon, which becomes level 60 if you rematch her with the Vs Seeker. Obviously would have helped more if you had found her a decade or so ago, and Lumineon is still incredibly forgettable. But if you ever replay gen 4, you can find almost every Pokemon in Trainer battles, except legendaries (though you can still complete the Seen part of the regional Pokedex with a single game).
I'm sure there is. Diamond and Pearl let you encounter every Pokémon in the Sinnoh Dex on a trainer before you beat the game. Except Unown and the Legendaries, of course. Unless they somehow overlooked Lumineon...
I believe there is one just above the town with the electric gym, but it's one of those trainers that go back and forth and are super easy to skip, so it's easy to miss it.
Unless one watched the anime where James had one, surely Chimecho is the obvious “didn’t know that existed” Pokémon, right? No trainer uses it, a 2% encounter rate in just one area of the game, kinda bad by that point even if you got one… that it’s the last mon in index number suggests it was a last-minute design finalized and added too. The game designers got better at making virtually every new mon get used by someone from Gen 4 onward, so the problem doesn’t repeat as much going forward. That said, Pincurchin is one recent mon I constantly forget exists too.
Not only a 2% encounter rate. A 2% encounter rate in an area you might not even know grass *exists* Seriously, that fog and the way the game handles you going there for the story, you can be forgiven for not going off the trail and looking for stuff.
"Is there any game where your rival is more useless than in Emerald?" I can think of two actually. The one in XY (not talking about Shauna, Tierno or Trevor, I'm talking Calem/Serena) and the one in Ruby/Sapphire (just because they're worse than in Emerald)
Serena is at least difficult the last time you fight her. But that’s mostly because she jumpscares you near the end of victory road. Though the entire game is kind of easy since they give you free megas
@Alchys Nah nah, Hau jumping you on the third island with his Alolan Raichu was difficult as hell 😅 The only rival I've ever lost to. And Hop changing up his team on multiple occasions caught me off guard too. Almost lost my nuzlocke to his team with the Snorlax
Stories about Pokemon you didn't know existed? I have one! Necrozma. I followed Sun and Moon's announcements obsessively so I don't know how I managed to miss it? But when I was playing, after I'd beaten the game, I went to ten carat hill to find Pokemon for my dex. Imagine having NO idea Necrozma existed and then RANDOMLY running into it while exploring ten carat hill. It genuinely scared the hell out of me LMAO.
This is because there was never an announcement for it. It was just never revealed until the game released and people found it. Heck, I am not sure if it was in the official dex on the pokemon site when the game launched initially (it probably was, I just never looked)
I had a similar experience with Giratina in Pearl version. Getting lost in that awful cave only to stumble upon a horrifying shadow dragon was genuinely terrifying to 10-year-old me.
Necrozma was in no trailers before Sun and Moon. It wasn't even in the official strategy guide, which I got with the games. I don't think it was even really acknowledged until USUM.
It’s always funny when MDB accidentally finds damage rounding thresholds over and over in different runs and doesn’t put it together. You do more damage at levels ending with 0-3-5-8 because of the way damage is calculated using levels.
@@Ryan2K900 yes really, it’s been that way since Gen 1, still true in gen 9. The damage formula progresses non-linearly and partial values are always rounded down. Pokemon math is extremely weird.
@@ForNoReason1000 it was jrose, I remember that one too. He’s more knowledgeable than MDB who admits he’s not very good at Pokémon, it’s just really funny this approach of trying battles multiple times at every level leads to kinda finding the idea accidentally, like specifically calling out big damage jumps at 38 and 48 in this video without knowing why lol
For years I thought Chimecho was gen 4. Emerald was my first game gift to me along my first console. I played it for years and never ever I found a freaking Chimecho.
I knew about Chimecho even back in gen 3. I hunted for Chimecho for a long time in gen 3, across Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald, until I had to return Sapphire to my uncle, had Ruby stolen, and had my Emerald save data corrupted with the game time maxed out. I still have never found Chimecho in gen 3...
I've been replaying the Pokemon games using Pokemon I've never used before Skitty/Delcatty has been so much better than expected Attract plus Body Slam Paralysis is just hilarious
I only knew about Relicanth because I looked up guides on getting the Regi trio to appear and he's required for it. Honestly, he's one of my favorite water types! Totally chill, just vibin', and is based on an amazing fish IRL. Love my fossil fish ❤️
Gen 6, right after getting to Victory Road: Friends when it first came out 11 years ago always told me that Deino was in the game, and Hydreigon was my favorite Dark type prior to Gen 5 since I had one as an ace on my Black Tower team. Unfortunately I wasn’t lucky enough to find one in the wild on any of the adjacent routes I kept searching, and then it happened… After beating Serena, there was a TM to the top right. Something swooped in right from above, and who was it? Well it turned out to be a 4% encounter rate of Hydreigon, and caught him. Sadly I lost my copy of Y 5 years ago, but I’ll always have the memories.
Relicanth, my baby! Not the best in Gen 3, but in later generations he becomes an actually kinda bonkers physical attacker with great defense. I guess it fits that he's not that great back then - a lot of Hoenn pokemon suffered from the same issue of their stats not co-operating with their typing.
I missed Tyrogue when playing Gen 2 as a kid. You have to go deep into Mt. Mortar, an optional area, then beat a trainer and he gives you one. It's such an obscure Pokemon that appears on nobody's teams in Gen 2, either.
You can get a Tyrogue out of the egg from the daycare just outside of goldenrod city. You can get most of the baby pokemon there. But it's still a random chance to get the one you want, so it's still easy to miss.
On the Sevii Island on LeafGreen, I didn't know Larvitar, Spinarak, and Sneasel appeared on the game and I didnt know the existance of sneasel and larvitar. It took me years to encounter them.
I knew Relicanth (Probably Rel-ik-anth based on the etymology of Relic and Coelacanth) from a pokemon book of all things. I adored the fish since I was in like 1st or 2nd grade, so seeing the fact there was a coelacanth pokemon as a kid made me really happy. Never found it though, but now that I know where its at...
As a recent example, I had no clue what Stonjourner was until some random RUclips video after I beat the game. I also didn’t buy any DLCs so I had no clue the new legendaries in Gen 9 were a thing until I rolled them on a Pokémon showdown random battle LMAO
Legit never realized Relicanth even existed during my first playthrough, and this was years after the game even came out. I think it's cool that there were Pokemon that were more or less secret if you play the game naturally. Makes for a really fun experience when you finally do encounter them.
This was a really good run. You were really owed the Ancientpower luck after how Drifloon's run went, and it seemed like you had a lot of fun with it. Glad you had fun with this one! As for a Pokemon discovery... I played a lot of Ruby when I was younger, and there aren't any trainers in Ruby or Sapphire who have Vibrava. So you could see Trapinch from trainers, and Flygon from Drake, but that middle form was one you had to discover for yourself. So I eventually raised a Trapinch to see what that mystery middle form was... and Vibrava has really grown on me and become one of my favorite Pokemon. Anyway, looking forward to the Shuppet run! That will definitely be interesting!
it reminds me of Chimecho. It appears in a very hidden patch of grass in Mt Pyre with a very low %. In RS it is very easy to miss but in Emerald, one trainer in the Psychic gym uses it.
One Pokemon I distinctly remember overlooking was Bergmite. I just NEVER encountered one in the ice cave where it was supposed to be and didn't know Avalugg had a preevolution until sometime AFTER I since beat the game.
Ya know, when I was a kid, I loved exploring finding hidden items, also, there's a cool puzzle for the regi trio underwater, spent tons of time underwater is my point. It def is surprising to hear it's 5%, saw Relicanth a bunch! Not uh, arguing or anything lol, just letting you know how my exp was :) loving the vid so far, thinking you'd need to over level a bunch to survive certain threats, and non-preventable damage
For what it's worth, I'm very glad that you don't do premieres. There's nothing more annoying to me than getting a notification for a video, only to realise it's not out and won't be until I'm very much asleep. Or worse, I get a notification that a video is premiering, but the notification if 5 minutes late and I have to wait for 20 minutes before watching it.
I’ve been suggesting this one for a long while now and am so happy to see you do a run with it ❤️❤️❤️ Relicanth just so happens to be my favorite gen 3 Pokémon 😊
As far as pokemon i didnt know existed, as a kid i always had the strategy guides so there wasnt things i didnt know existed, juet things i didnt encounter. I never found a misdreavous in gen 2 and didnt get one until colloseum 😂 great video as always MDB! Keep up the great work ❤
I have a story about pokémon I've not seen in a normal playthrough. I started at the gameboy with Pokémon Blue, and not a single trainer had a Golem, so I only saw one years later, on the internet.
For the electric gym, don’t forget that you have cheri berries at this point so you could shake off one paralysis if you held one. Doesn’t help now ofc but something to remember for future challenges! :)
Thanks for putting that little smile on my face every time the Fossil gag comes up. It always feels like a highlight of the video and it makes it more special to know you put in extra time each run to get it in
When I was a kid playing sapphire for the first time, I had NO idea Rayquaza existed. I learned about it when I was at my sister’s dance recital, and another kid was playing Ruby. He asked me if I found Rayquaza, and I had no idea what he was talking about. It blew my mind there was a whole legendary hidden in the game. That was probably the last time I experienced a true surprise in a Pokemon game.
Dunsparce and Relicanth being obscure, easily missed, and mostly forgotten are precisely why they're my favorite pokemon. I also just love characters with the -_- face
If I was going to make an "ancient pokemon" rom hack, I'd include the fossils, the past forms ones from S/V, all of the ancient power evolutions and Relicanth before having to make some fakemons.
Every time I see one of these in my recommended just after 4pm, I'm so happy. This one got recommended to me twice because I didn't finish it the first time!
I missed Aerodactyl my first Red playthrough cuz I didn´t know you could go into the museum and get the Old Amber there. My then best friend told me about it and I was shocked. I wouldn´t have ever known before the internet how to get that Pokémon (thanks to Lance I even thought for a long time it was some kind of legendary Pokémon)
One thing that i feel like i should mention for emerald runs is that rusturf tunnel with its whismurs has the highest xp yield of all the grinding spots pre gym 1, and the hp evs from whismur are also really nice for becoming tankier
Some of you never obsessively read the official guidebooks as kids, and it shows. I didn't even have the games back then, I just really wanted to know everything about Pokemon.
I used to think Slugma was a gen 3 pokemon because it was so easily accessibly in this game. Didn't realize until I was an adult that it was actually a gen 2 pokemon.
I didn't realize Binacle existed until I set out to complete the Kalos dex. I was smashing rocks in Ambrette Town, encountered one and had no clue it even existed. I'm pretty sure I saw a Barbaracle before that point, too.
Chimecho was my "I never got one nor saw one and didn't find out about it until ages after" Pokémon in Ruby and Sapphire. I can't remember how I found out. I feel like I saw a picture of James's in the anime? Mt. Pyre is kind of an obscure place you're not really gonna go once you do that part of the story, whereas at least with diving there's so much ocean to explore you do it a lot (and it was a fun, new novelty at the time)
Can You Beat Pokémon with ONLY moves with RANDOM outcome? i.e. Accupressure, Magnitude, Metronome, Psywave, Sleep Talk,... If the movepool is too small, you could add: - multi-hit moves (as long as the number of hits is random) - moves with variable outcome (Copycat, Conversion, Mimic, Nature Power, Sketch, ...) - moves with power depending on current battle state (Brine, Endeavor, Hex, Pain Split, Venoshock, Water Spout, ...).
Just want to say that these solo Pokemon runs have looked so fun for years, that I started a Corsola solo run in Gold now that iPhone can have emulators. It's been a lot of fun!
relicanth is weirdly an important pokemon to me, i remember just getting into pokemon games (not cards) right before gen 4 (3rd grade for me) i got dropped off at school early and my friend brought his gameboy in, he was playing saphire and called me over to watch him encounter a pokemon and i was glued to his shoulder watching as he dove underwater on his swampert and found a relicanth! not only was this his first time ever seeing a pokemon underwater but it was my first time seeing the game in person and so when i got my game finally i played so much in search of my own underwater rock fish
Relicamth? Vaught every single time i played. For some reason i just always remembered where it was. Feebas? I traded a Mewtwo and bird trio for a girl to catch and evolve one for me to complete my gen 4 pokedex. Confusing little fisb.
"Is there any game where your rival is more useless than in Emerald?" MDB clearly hasn't heard of the terrors The Rival inflicts on speedrunners here :P
On our way through, I took the root fossil. I knew if I didn’t say what I took, you’d all ask. Actually, now that I think about it, everyone asks anyway. Comments are good for the RUclips algorithm.
I never knew about Chimecho on Mt Pyre. It was a schoolyard rumor: “If you run around the graveyard, you will find a pokemon with a lightbulb on its head.” Chimecho is a 2% encounter, but only on the summit. It can’t be found on the interior, or exterior, only summit.. I’m not sure if any trainers even have it to register in the Pokédex. I spent what felt like hours running in the few spots with gravestones before I finally found it
A few things: -I know you like to max out your ev's pre rare candies, but here's a thought as to why you should do it before they're maxed out, rare candies don't boost your stats nearly as high on level up since you won't be accruing the ev's normally naturally gotten through grinding the same experience. This way, you can make the later parts of the run harder to appease the audience, and skip the tedium simultaneously, the only way this could backfire in the challenge, is if you need to hit level 100 EXTREMELY early before your ev's would be maxed, as with the exception of vitamins, I don't think there's a way to spend the banked ev's since to my knowledge, as they're only applied on level up. (until you get to gens where you can use vitamins to max out stats, but I think that's gen 8). -For the bike bit, I get doing a fresh clip every time on principal, but maybe there's a mod that allows you to change bikes similar to the gear shift in gen 4 to save you time. -Check out Scott's Thought's video on Relicanth, he just did one recently, and although it's a different ruleset, I think you'd find it fun. Also his growing hatred to Ludicolo amuses me as a Shiftry enjoyer (I played Ruby, and am annoyed how Shiftry got the short end of the stick) -On discovering new Pokemon, I've got two stories: -One was back in Ultra Moon, I didn't know about Ultra Necrozma as this was right after the game released, and I about lost my mind popping off with that battle. -The other was when I actually discovered the ice type, for context, I played Ruby, but got stuck pre gym 8/e4 so I hadn't seen an ice type pokemon, or likely a move even since Hoen is tropical. Then Platinum (my 2nd pokemon game) came out, and when I hit that snow route and discovered ice types, winter wonderland doesn't begin to describe the joy I had running around and catching all the ice pokemon available. -If you see/made it this far in my comment, congrats! Keep up the good work! Hope things are going well for you!
When I was a kid, beat the Elite Four before I discovered Chin Chou by wasting time fishing near the ship in Olivine City. Blew my mind to find a new pokemon let alone to discover it was BOTH Electric and Water type. Then I leveled it up a fair bit waiting for it to evolve into Lanturn. Good memories.
Volcarona is very easy to miss in black 2, i was just messing around near the tournament area and accidentally stumbled upon the passage, then you have to go down a convoluted passage to find a specific door to the ruins. It’s significantly easier in black, especially with the larvesta egg being available much earlier
The Pokemon I never discovered naturally was Electabuzz in Generation I. I went to the power plant eventually but I just never ran into it. I don't remember fighting a trainer who had one (maybe a guy has one and I just never fought him) and I didn't know that Electabuzz existed until like Gen III when I ran into one in FireRed. Just... somehow never saw one.
Hop from pokemon Sword/shield At least it's established that May/Lucus is more interested in exploring and studying with the professor than battling. Hop has no excuse and switches up team members for weaker single staged pokemon. The only way be gets a tiny bit tough is when he cheats and puts a legendary on his team. Then he gives up pokemon battling to take sonia's newly acquired job XD Like the legendary goes "you're strong, I'm joining you hop." then he gives up being strong, might as well just have given me both legendries.
Hop and Leon in the Final Battles "WoW you used a Super Effective Movie you really Understand Typ Adventage" (Leon litterally says this in the Champion Battle)
I kind of liked Hop's "character arc." It really feels like he's supposed to be the protagonist, with all his talk of friendship and becoming the strongest and whatnot. And then we show up like Gary at every turn to constantly knock him down a peg and ruin his dreams. It's kind of hilarious. It still would work better if he was stronger at the end though.
@@DieGurke_ I don't remember how strong Marnie actually is. But narratively, yeah, she works better as a rival. And Bede might as well be a villain. Or at least a villainous rival like Silver was.
My story for Pokemon I didn't know were in the game comes from Pokemon White. After I beat the game I wanted to register every unova Pokemon as at least "seen" in my Pokedex (similar to from Sinnoh games). But there were two spaces next to each other I just couldn't figure out how to fill even though I explored pretty much everywhere and fought as many trainers as I could find. Turns out, those spaces were Vullaby and Mandibuzz, which are exclusive to Black, and they were reportedly added late in development, so not a single trainer in the game uses them. When Black and White 2 came out I got Black 2 after looking up just to make sure that was the sequel where you could catch a Vullaby in!
For MDB's overlooked pokemon list, I would like to add my favorite pokemon: Vibrava. It's the exact same story as Relicanth but with a pre- and post-evolution. Since I was too stubborn to look up whether Flygon evolved from anything for years and I figured Trapinch was just a weird, weak one-off, the middle form of that line was a hidden treasure in the game.
The reason you beat Manectric at level 38 but not 37 is because 38 is an "everything rounds in your favor" level threshold. All levels ending in 0, 3, 5, and 8 are like that, for every part of battle math except maybe accuracy and crit rate which seem to be fixed. It's more noticeable the lower your level is, but sometimes it's JUST enough to make a huge difference.
This was actually my favorite pokémon from my first gen 3 playthrough. I searched for so long trying to get something besides a clam pearl after I use dive and when I finally found this boy I was like wait I love him, super cool design , at least my 8 yo self thought so
Relicanth was an interesting story for me. I actually caught it on my firat playthrough of sapphire. I didnt realize how rare it was i just thought it was the coolest looking fish they had made for awhile and it reminded me of the coelacanth that had been recently discovered at the time of the game.
Press F to pay respects to the greatest hero of all the Emerald solo runs... that brave Magikarp that has to be sacrificed so that MDB can complete the Mossdeep Gym. 😢
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Ah yes, Relicanth.
The Pokémon 90% of us only remembers cause you needed it to catch the regis.
Either that or from completing Pokémon Pinball R&S
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@@AgsmaJustAgsma omg yes that game lol
I love coelacanths so it always one of my favorite pokemon lmao.
So, I just wanna say how much I love Relicanth. Pokémon really took one look at the Coelacanth fish and said "yup, that is a pokémon, no changes needed". The Coelacanth was known to us from fossils for years. We were so confident that it was extinct that the Natural History Museum in London had a coelacanth carved into its walls as an example of extinction. Then one day it turned up in a fish market. Now we know there are 2 species of coelacanths swimming about out there.
It's that trope of finding some hidden sanctuary filled with ancient predators, but instead of massive megalodons or T. rex it's just a big ol' fish who's chill. Love this animal, and love this pokémon.
It's been a long week, this video made my day, and I got a chance to rant about relicanth's real life counterpart. Thank you MDB. :)
I love Lockstin's video on Relicanth's origins for this reason. It's literally just a coelacanth 😂
Tbf, it is supposed to be a "map," hence the red dot
If they every add a platypus, I do hope they just stick it in the game like relicanth. Water/Poison type, give it a buffed Shockwave, make it blue (or teal like Perry), and call it like Platyprick or smn and boom, pokemon
I remember doing a school assignment based on this animal. I'm not sure if it was due to Pokemon or because I love Dinosaurs, but who knows.😂
Pokémon, much like Mother Nature, took one look at that derpy fish and went “yup, that thing’s perfect.”
My favourite overlooked Pokemon is Skarmory. It was introduced in Gen 2! Very few people found it until Gen 3, since it was only on the route south of Blackthorn, which you never have to visit since you've just beaten the eighth gym and are probably going to fly back to New Bark Town rather than taking a mountain path.
Not to mention Skarmory is version exclusive to Silver as well
Dude I LOVE skarmory.
Maybe one of, if not my favorite flying type.
Over half the pokemon in Gen 2 are overlooked because of their terrible placement or spawn rates combined with their terrible stats. Aipom is only a 20% chance in a few headbut trees, slugma is in Kanto and only ever 5% besides route 17 during daytime where it gets a nice boost to a whopping 35% encounter rate. Yanma is only a 1% encounter on route 35, misdreavus is only in mount silver at night with a 5, 10, or 30% encounter rate based on the game and room, quillfish is only available with the super rod, again post e4, and a 10% chance.
Most people assume these are all gen 3 or 4 pokemon becuase they got new evolutions in gen 4 or were way more common in gen 3 like slugma.
Because of those reasons, I thought till Gen 8, that skarmory is a Gen 3 Pokemon. I met this bird in ruby the first time. 😄 Especially gold was my very first game as a kid.
Not only that, but its a version exclusive and there isn't a single trainer with one in the game.
Because of this, I for the longest time thought it was a Gen 3 pokemon
Turns out... Reli-can
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The fossil gag is always gonna be a favorite
I really appreciate that he records a new one every time. I would probably never notice if he reused footage but it’s one big thing that brings me back every week
@@krislynch9426yeah and you can tell cause the border changes every time 😂
8:15 since he has done 29 ruby or emerald runs that means he has spent about 290 minutes or almost 5 hours doing that stupid gag and from the bottom of my heart thank you
In Pokemon Pearl, there is NO trainer with a Lumineon (the blue fish pokemon introduced that gen), there are it's pre-evolved form "Finneon", but no Lumineon.
I was attempting to complete the regional dex, and got completely stumped (this was back in the 00s, before the internet was as easy to access as today), but my dad was a truck driver, and I was able to access the internet on one of those old "idle air" computers (look it up) and finally figure out what the missing pokemon in my pokedex was.
Platinum added one optional trainer with it on Victory Road. I don't know if anyone else has one. Such a funny fish.
I could have sworn that in gen 4, you were able to see every Pokemon just through Trainer battles, letting you at least fill out that part of the Pokedex without trading or anything. And I distinctly remember there being a Lumineon Trainer because that was also my last missing Pokemon from the Pokedex. I don't recall if I was able to look it up at the time or what, but I double checked just now.
There is actually a Trainer with a Lumineon in Diamond and Pearl. Route 223, leading from Sunnyshore to the Pokemon League, has Swimmer Miranda. I believe she's actually the first one you come across, but she swims back and forth. Her only Pokemon is a level 43 Lumineon, which becomes level 60 if you rematch her with the Vs Seeker.
Obviously would have helped more if you had found her a decade or so ago, and Lumineon is still incredibly forgettable. But if you ever replay gen 4, you can find almost every Pokemon in Trainer battles, except legendaries (though you can still complete the Seen part of the regional Pokedex with a single game).
I'm sure there is. Diamond and Pearl let you encounter every Pokémon in the Sinnoh Dex on a trainer before you beat the game.
Except Unown and the Legendaries, of course.
Unless they somehow overlooked Lumineon...
Maybe not in the first battle, but in the VS Seeker rematches, I'm pretty sure the Finneon trainers eventually evolve them.
I believe there is one just above the town with the electric gym, but it's one of those trainers that go back and forth and are super easy to skip, so it's easy to miss it.
Unless one watched the anime where James had one, surely Chimecho is the obvious “didn’t know that existed” Pokémon, right? No trainer uses it, a 2% encounter rate in just one area of the game, kinda bad by that point even if you got one… that it’s the last mon in index number suggests it was a last-minute design finalized and added too.
The game designers got better at making virtually every new mon get used by someone from Gen 4 onward, so the problem doesn’t repeat as much going forward. That said, Pincurchin is one recent mon I constantly forget exists too.
Gen 3 is the only generation I went into 100% blind and I also didn't know Chimecho existed until way later thanks to Pokémon Pinball.
Same! Loved chimeco on the anime as a kid and really wanted one, but i thought it was in another game, cause i never saw one in emerald haha
Not only a 2% encounter rate. A 2% encounter rate in an area you might not even know grass *exists*
Seriously, that fog and the way the game handles you going there for the story, you can be forgiven for not going off the trail and looking for stuff.
"Is there any game where your rival is more useless than in Emerald?"
I can think of two actually. The one in XY (not talking about Shauna, Tierno or Trevor, I'm talking Calem/Serena) and the one in Ruby/Sapphire (just because they're worse than in Emerald)
Serena is at least difficult the last time you fight her. But that’s mostly because she jumpscares you near the end of victory road. Though the entire game is kind of easy since they give you free megas
I raise you Hau and Hop from gens 7 and 8……… Those two are miserable excuses for rivals
@Alchys Nah nah, Hau jumping you on the third island with his Alolan Raichu was difficult as hell 😅 The only rival I've ever lost to.
And Hop changing up his team on multiple occasions caught me off guard too. Almost lost my nuzlocke to his team with the Snorlax
Stories about Pokemon you didn't know existed? I have one!
Necrozma. I followed Sun and Moon's announcements obsessively so I don't know how I managed to miss it? But when I was playing, after I'd beaten the game, I went to ten carat hill to find Pokemon for my dex. Imagine having NO idea Necrozma existed and then RANDOMLY running into it while exploring ten carat hill. It genuinely scared the hell out of me LMAO.
Necrozma is super sick, what a fun surprise :)
This is because there was never an announcement for it. It was just never revealed until the game released and people found it. Heck, I am not sure if it was in the official dex on the pokemon site when the game launched initially (it probably was, I just never looked)
I had a similar experience with Giratina in Pearl version. Getting lost in that awful cave only to stumble upon a horrifying shadow dragon was genuinely terrifying to 10-year-old me.
Necrozma was in no trailers before Sun and Moon. It wasn't even in the official strategy guide, which I got with the games. I don't think it was even really acknowledged until USUM.
It’s always funny when MDB accidentally finds damage rounding thresholds over and over in different runs and doesn’t put it together. You do more damage at levels ending with 0-3-5-8 because of the way damage is calculated using levels.
Really? That’s cool. Was that always a thing or was it introduced in a specific gen?
@@Ryan2K900 yes really, it’s been that way since Gen 1, still true in gen 9. The damage formula progresses non-linearly and partial values are always rounded down. Pokemon math is extremely weird.
Learned about those from Scott's thoughts
I think he's mentioned it in passing but never paid attention to when it happens. Might of been Jrose though. I watch both back to back alot.
@@ForNoReason1000 it was jrose, I remember that one too. He’s more knowledgeable than MDB who admits he’s not very good at Pokémon, it’s just really funny this approach of trying battles multiple times at every level leads to kinda finding the idea accidentally, like specifically calling out big damage jumps at 38 and 48 in this video without knowing why lol
“i chose to replace mudkip”
> shows that he replaced treecko
I was trying to see just how far down it would take to find a comment about that. Turns out, pretty far.
And that made a considerable difference in May's second fight. Grovyle would have been definitely harder.
For years I thought Chimecho was gen 4.
Emerald was my first game gift to me along my first console. I played it for years and never ever I found a freaking Chimecho.
I knew about Chimecho even back in gen 3. I hunted for Chimecho for a long time in gen 3, across Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald, until I had to return Sapphire to my uncle, had Ruby stolen, and had my Emerald save data corrupted with the game time maxed out.
I still have never found Chimecho in gen 3...
Respect for commitment to the gag! ✌️
Also, as far as I recall, the only reason I found out about Relicanth was because it's required for the Regis
I've been replaying the Pokemon games using Pokemon I've never used before
Skitty/Delcatty has been so much better than expected
Attract plus Body Slam Paralysis is just hilarious
Same, attract can be pretty broken! I only it affected both genders haha
I only knew about Relicanth because I looked up guides on getting the Regi trio to appear and he's required for it. Honestly, he's one of my favorite water types! Totally chill, just vibin', and is based on an amazing fish IRL. Love my fossil fish ❤️
Gen 6, right after getting to Victory Road:
Friends when it first came out 11 years ago always told me that Deino was in the game, and Hydreigon was my favorite Dark type prior to Gen 5 since I had one as an ace on my Black Tower team. Unfortunately I wasn’t lucky enough to find one in the wild on any of the adjacent routes I kept searching, and then it happened…
After beating Serena, there was a TM to the top right. Something swooped in right from above, and who was it? Well it turned out to be a 4% encounter rate of Hydreigon, and caught him.
Sadly I lost my copy of Y 5 years ago, but I’ll always have the memories.
Relicanth, my baby! Not the best in Gen 3, but in later generations he becomes an actually kinda bonkers physical attacker with great defense. I guess it fits that he's not that great back then - a lot of Hoenn pokemon suffered from the same issue of their stats not co-operating with their typing.
I missed Tyrogue when playing Gen 2 as a kid. You have to go deep into Mt. Mortar, an optional area, then beat a trainer and he gives you one. It's such an obscure Pokemon that appears on nobody's teams in Gen 2, either.
You can get a Tyrogue out of the egg from the daycare just outside of goldenrod city. You can get most of the baby pokemon there. But it's still a random chance to get the one you want, so it's still easy to miss.
On the Sevii Island on LeafGreen, I didn't know Larvitar, Spinarak, and Sneasel appeared on the game and I didnt know the existance of sneasel and larvitar. It took me years to encounter them.
I knew Relicanth (Probably Rel-ik-anth based on the etymology of Relic and Coelacanth) from a pokemon book of all things. I adored the fish since I was in like 1st or 2nd grade, so seeing the fact there was a coelacanth pokemon as a kid made me really happy. Never found it though, but now that I know where its at...
You should do this run in gen 4. It would be much more fun. Rock Polish/STAB Head Smash with no recoil damage.
Does learn it head smash naturally?
Because that rocks!
I'd love the Wally team challenge!! Sounds like it really can't be that hard with okay mons and moves, he's so oddly bad
As a recent example, I had no clue what Stonjourner was until some random RUclips video after I beat the game. I also didn’t buy any DLCs so I had no clue the new legendaries in Gen 9 were a thing until I rolled them on a Pokémon showdown random battle LMAO
AHHHHHHH I'VE BEEN WAITING SO LONG FOR THIS :)
Poggers
Legit never realized Relicanth even existed during my first playthrough, and this was years after the game even came out. I think it's cool that there were Pokemon that were more or less secret if you play the game naturally. Makes for a really fun experience when you finally do encounter them.
This was a really good run. You were really owed the Ancientpower luck after how Drifloon's run went, and it seemed like you had a lot of fun with it. Glad you had fun with this one!
As for a Pokemon discovery... I played a lot of Ruby when I was younger, and there aren't any trainers in Ruby or Sapphire who have Vibrava. So you could see Trapinch from trainers, and Flygon from Drake, but that middle form was one you had to discover for yourself. So I eventually raised a Trapinch to see what that mystery middle form was... and Vibrava has really grown on me and become one of my favorite Pokemon.
Anyway, looking forward to the Shuppet run! That will definitely be interesting!
it reminds me of Chimecho. It appears in a very hidden patch of grass in Mt Pyre with a very low %. In RS it is very easy to miss but in Emerald, one trainer in the Psychic gym uses it.
One Pokemon I distinctly remember overlooking was Bergmite. I just NEVER encountered one in the ice cave where it was supposed to be and didn't know Avalugg had a preevolution until sometime AFTER I since beat the game.
“So now we’re level 68…” you couldn’t wait 1 more level to try that fight?
Ya know, when I was a kid, I loved exploring finding hidden items, also, there's a cool puzzle for the regi trio underwater, spent tons of time underwater is my point. It def is surprising to hear it's 5%, saw Relicanth a bunch! Not uh, arguing or anything lol, just letting you know how my exp was :) loving the vid so far, thinking you'd need to over level a bunch to survive certain threats, and non-preventable damage
The second rival fight in gen 3 is actually infamously difficult... in speedruns.
For what it's worth, I'm very glad that you don't do premieres. There's nothing more annoying to me than getting a notification for a video, only to realise it's not out and won't be until I'm very much asleep.
Or worse, I get a notification that a video is premiering, but the notification if 5 minutes late and I have to wait for 20 minutes before watching it.
So cool to have an early video! And with an interesting pokemon in Pokemon Emerald! ❤
I’ve been suggesting this one for a long while now and am so happy to see you do a run with it ❤️❤️❤️ Relicanth just so happens to be my favorite gen 3 Pokémon 😊
As far as pokemon i didnt know existed, as a kid i always had the strategy guides so there wasnt things i didnt know existed, juet things i didnt encounter. I never found a misdreavous in gen 2 and didnt get one until colloseum 😂 great video as always MDB! Keep up the great work ❤
One of those Pokémon that I not only have never used but I also think I never even caught it.
MDB: I replaced Mudkip with Relicanth
*proceeds to pick it replacing with treecko* 2:09
A slaking only challenge would be so fun!!
I have a story about pokémon I've not seen in a normal playthrough. I started at the gameboy with Pokémon Blue, and not a single trainer had a Golem, so I only saw one years later, on the internet.
Spirit tomb is one of those pokemon I've never seen in the wild
You can’t get it in the wild, it’s an explorer kit gimmick Pokémon
For the electric gym, don’t forget that you have cheri berries at this point so you could shake off one paralysis if you held one. Doesn’t help now ofc but something to remember for future challenges! :)
Relicanth is one of my favorite Gen III 'Mons, and one of my favorites in general. Ancient Rockfish be King of the Seas.
Thanks for putting that little smile on my face every time the Fossil gag comes up. It always feels like a highlight of the video and it makes it more special to know you put in extra time each run to get it in
When I was a kid playing sapphire for the first time, I had NO idea Rayquaza existed. I learned about it when I was at my sister’s dance recital, and another kid was playing Ruby. He asked me if I found Rayquaza, and I had no idea what he was talking about. It blew my mind there was a whole legendary hidden in the game. That was probably the last time I experienced a true surprise in a Pokemon game.
Dunsparce and Relicanth being obscure, easily missed, and mostly forgotten are precisely why they're my favorite pokemon. I also just love characters with the -_- face
Relicanth is pretty much the honorable mention of Fossil mons. Can't wait to see how it goes.
BTW is that the fossil you chose? :p
If I was going to make an "ancient pokemon" rom hack, I'd include the fossils, the past forms ones from S/V, all of the ancient power evolutions and Relicanth before having to make some fakemons.
Every time I see one of these in my recommended just after 4pm, I'm so happy. This one got recommended to me twice because I didn't finish it the first time!
Your comitment to "this stupid gag" is one of the reasons we're still here ❤😁😁
I remember your WH40K DoW playthroughs and I'm glad to see you're still crushing games! Thanks for the videos!
I missed Aerodactyl my first Red playthrough cuz I didn´t know you could go into the museum and get the Old Amber there. My then best friend told me about it and I was shocked. I wouldn´t have ever known before the internet how to get that Pokémon (thanks to Lance I even thought for a long time it was some kind of legendary Pokémon)
Hey, that mirrors my story with Flygon! No one ever had a Vibrava on their team and who would ever think Trapinch eventually turns into that bad boy?
@@MadameTeqi Yeah, I feel that. I almost missed out on Flygon, if I hadn´t kept Trapinch cuz I needed (and kinda wanted) a Ground type.
I never even knew Relicanth existed until this video! I also never knew Armaldo was a thing until I started watching these challenges
shout out to chimecho only appearing in one location with a 1% encounter rate
yet somehow it then got a baby form in the next gen
One thing that i feel like i should mention for emerald runs is that rusturf tunnel with its whismurs has the highest xp yield of all the grinding spots pre gym 1, and the hp evs from whismur are also really nice for becoming tankier
Some of you never obsessively read the official guidebooks as kids, and it shows.
I didn't even have the games back then, I just really wanted to know everything about Pokemon.
I used to think Slugma was a gen 3 pokemon because it was so easily accessibly in this game. Didn't realize until I was an adult that it was actually a gen 2 pokemon.
It’s good to see a solo run since we’ve been stuck with easy team runs for awhile. Thankfully we haven’t had any non Pokémon runs so keep it up
I love Relicanth. Coelocanths are awesome creatures, and it is so cool that we thought they were extinct for a long time, before we rediscovered them
I didn't realize Binacle existed until I set out to complete the Kalos dex. I was smashing rocks in Ambrette Town, encountered one and had no clue it even existed.
I'm pretty sure I saw a Barbaracle before that point, too.
Chimecho was my "I never got one nor saw one and didn't find out about it until ages after" Pokémon in Ruby and Sapphire. I can't remember how I found out. I feel like I saw a picture of James's in the anime? Mt. Pyre is kind of an obscure place you're not really gonna go once you do that part of the story, whereas at least with diving there's so much ocean to explore you do it a lot (and it was a fun, new novelty at the time)
I'm gonna be honest.....I forgot this Pokémon even existed. Then again I haven't played through Hoenn in years lol thanks for refreshing my memory MDB
Can You Beat Pokémon with ONLY moves with RANDOM outcome?
i.e. Accupressure, Magnitude, Metronome, Psywave, Sleep Talk,...
If the movepool is too small, you could add:
- multi-hit moves (as long as the number of hits is random)
- moves with variable outcome (Copycat, Conversion, Mimic, Nature Power, Sketch, ...)
- moves with power depending on current battle state (Brine, Endeavor, Hex, Pain Split, Venoshock, Water Spout, ...).
Just want to say that these solo Pokemon runs have looked so fun for years, that I started a Corsola solo run in Gold now that iPhone can have emulators. It's been a lot of fun!
relicanth is weirdly an important pokemon to me, i remember just getting into pokemon games (not cards) right before gen 4 (3rd grade for me) i got dropped off at school early and my friend brought his gameboy in, he was playing saphire and called me over to watch him encounter a pokemon and i was glued to his shoulder watching as he dove underwater on his swampert and found a relicanth! not only was this his first time ever seeing a pokemon underwater but it was my first time seeing the game in person and so when i got my game finally i played so much in search of my own underwater rock fish
Very good challenge, I suggest Slakoth and Caterpie in Firered.
Relicamth? Vaught every single time i played. For some reason i just always remembered where it was.
Feebas? I traded a Mewtwo and bird trio for a girl to catch and evolve one for me to complete my gen 4 pokedex. Confusing little fisb.
Relicanth has always been a favorite of mine, love this guy
"Is there any game where your rival is more useless than in Emerald?"
MDB clearly hasn't heard of the terrors The Rival inflicts on speedrunners here :P
On our way through, I took the root fossil. I knew if I didn’t say what I took, you’d all ask. Actually, now that I think about it, everyone asks anyway. Comments are good for the RUclips algorithm.
Genuinely surprising that you managed to beat Steven Stone without Earthquake. I tip my hat.
I never knew about Chimecho on Mt Pyre. It was a schoolyard rumor: “If you run around the graveyard, you will find a pokemon with a lightbulb on its head.”
Chimecho is a 2% encounter, but only on the summit. It can’t be found on the interior, or exterior, only summit.. I’m not sure if any trainers even have it to register in the Pokédex.
I spent what felt like hours running in the few spots with gravestones before I finally found it
A few things:
-I know you like to max out your ev's pre rare candies, but here's a thought as to why you should do it before they're maxed out, rare candies don't boost your stats nearly as high on level up since you won't be accruing the ev's normally naturally gotten through grinding the same experience. This way, you can make the later parts of the run harder to appease the audience, and skip the tedium simultaneously, the only way this could backfire in the challenge, is if you need to hit level 100 EXTREMELY early before your ev's would be maxed, as with the exception of vitamins, I don't think there's a way to spend the banked ev's since to my knowledge, as they're only applied on level up. (until you get to gens where you can use vitamins to max out stats, but I think that's gen 8).
-For the bike bit, I get doing a fresh clip every time on principal, but maybe there's a mod that allows you to change bikes similar to the gear shift in gen 4 to save you time.
-Check out Scott's Thought's video on Relicanth, he just did one recently, and although it's a different ruleset, I think you'd find it fun. Also his growing hatred to Ludicolo amuses me as a Shiftry enjoyer (I played Ruby, and am annoyed how Shiftry got the short end of the stick)
-On discovering new Pokemon, I've got two stories:
-One was back in Ultra Moon, I didn't know about Ultra Necrozma as this was right after the game released, and I about lost my mind popping off with that battle.
-The other was when I actually discovered the ice type, for context, I played Ruby, but got stuck pre gym 8/e4 so I hadn't seen an ice type pokemon, or likely a move even since Hoen is tropical. Then Platinum (my 2nd pokemon game) came out, and when I hit that snow route and discovered ice types, winter wonderland doesn't begin to describe the joy I had running around and catching all the ice pokemon available.
-If you see/made it this far in my comment, congrats! Keep up the good work! Hope things are going well for you!
In my eyes, MDB, you never waste time on the "fossil gag" to me. I still enjoy it :)
When I was a kid, beat the Elite Four before I discovered Chin Chou by wasting time fishing near the ship in Olivine City. Blew my mind to find a new pokemon let alone to discover it was BOTH Electric and Water type. Then I leveled it up a fair bit waiting for it to evolve into Lanturn. Good memories.
Volcarona is very easy to miss in black 2, i was just messing around near the tournament area and accidentally stumbled upon the passage, then you have to go down a convoluted passage to find a specific door to the ruins. It’s significantly easier in black, especially with the larvesta egg being available much earlier
I Reli canth believe how the challenge ended
I'll never forget in high school the joy of finding out that herdier evolves.
Hello fellow tweeters
I love Relicanth! Glad that you're trying this out.
The Pokemon I never discovered naturally was Electabuzz in Generation I. I went to the power plant eventually but I just never ran into it. I don't remember fighting a trainer who had one (maybe a guy has one and I just never fought him) and I didn't know that Electabuzz existed until like Gen III when I ran into one in FireRed. Just... somehow never saw one.
Hop from pokemon Sword/shield
At least it's established that May/Lucus is more interested
in exploring and studying with the professor than battling.
Hop has no excuse and switches up team members for weaker single staged
pokemon. The only way be gets a tiny bit tough is when he cheats and puts a legendary
on his team. Then he gives up pokemon battling to take sonia's newly acquired job XD
Like the legendary goes "you're strong, I'm joining you hop." then he gives up being strong,
might as well just have given me both legendries.
Hop and Leon in the Final Battles "WoW you used a Super Effective Movie you really Understand Typ Adventage" (Leon litterally says this in the Champion Battle)
I kind of liked Hop's "character arc." It really feels like he's supposed to be the protagonist, with all his talk of friendship and becoming the strongest and whatnot. And then we show up like Gary at every turn to constantly knock him down a peg and ruin his dreams. It's kind of hilarious.
It still would work better if he was stronger at the end though.
@@TheLetterJ0 The true rival of Sword/Shield is Marnie. Change my Mind. Hop feels like Wally 2.0
At least Hop rotates his team around.
@@DieGurke_ I don't remember how strong Marnie actually is. But narratively, yeah, she works better as a rival. And Bede might as well be a villain. Or at least a villainous rival like Silver was.
I honestly got relicanth on every gen three run by accident surprisingly often because I would always be trying to max out my Pokedex
My story for Pokemon I didn't know were in the game comes from Pokemon White. After I beat the game I wanted to register every unova Pokemon as at least "seen" in my Pokedex (similar to from Sinnoh games). But there were two spaces next to each other I just couldn't figure out how to fill even though I explored pretty much everywhere and fought as many trainers as I could find.
Turns out, those spaces were Vullaby and Mandibuzz, which are exclusive to Black, and they were reportedly added late in development, so not a single trainer in the game uses them.
When Black and White 2 came out I got Black 2 after looking up just to make sure that was the sequel where you could catch a Vullaby in!
For MDB's overlooked pokemon list, I would like to add my favorite pokemon: Vibrava. It's the exact same story as Relicanth but with a pre- and post-evolution. Since I was too stubborn to look up whether Flygon evolved from anything for years and I figured Trapinch was just a weird, weak one-off, the middle form of that line was a hidden treasure in the game.
I appreciate the dedication to the fossil bit
Shuppet's immunity to Normal moves is gonna come in handy. At least in the beginning when they're more common.
Shuppet in FireRed is definitely something I wouldn’t have thought about for a challenge. Should be informative.
Woah, I had no idea Steven's Aggron had Solar Beam.
Week 4 of requesting a Mantyke only run, dealer's choice of game.
Mantyke is a friend. You can tell because it is friend shaped.
6:40 Damage rounding thresholds at levels ending in 0 3 5 and 8 really do feel crazy in difference sometimes
I didn't know Relicanth existed until late-game gen 4 and I loved it instantly because the real world animal on which it's based is one of my favs
The reason you beat Manectric at level 38 but not 37 is because 38 is an "everything rounds in your favor" level threshold. All levels ending in 0, 3, 5, and 8 are like that, for every part of battle math except maybe accuracy and crit rate which seem to be fixed. It's more noticeable the lower your level is, but sometimes it's JUST enough to make a huge difference.
This was actually my favorite pokémon from my first gen 3 playthrough. I searched for so long trying to get something besides a clam pearl after I use dive and when I finally found this boy I was like wait I love him, super cool design , at least my 8 yo self thought so
Your videos are something that helps me get through my day job, thank you so much for the positivity and energy you bring to the platform!
next time take the wrong fossil and still say root fossil, that will get the comments going.
Relicanth was an interesting story for me. I actually caught it on my firat playthrough of sapphire. I didnt realize how rare it was i just thought it was the coolest looking fish they had made for awhile and it reminded me of the coelacanth that had been recently discovered at the time of the game.
8:15 absolutely love the gag 🙏🙏🙏
also note for the future the ful stat boost is called a omni boost due to it boosting all the stats in battle beside accuracy and evasion
Can you believe he took the root fossil? Respect for MDB for giving us fresh footage of him getting the fossils.