I agree with Pascal when you have older contestants that live in different states you are not gonna have a person wanting to pull up and move to another state so I agree with Pascal. They should find all the people in the same state as far as the contestants for the senior bachelorette and bachelors.
@@thelmajohnson2955 exactly, that’s what happened to Gerry and Theresa. It’s unrealistic. I do NOT see Joan leaving Maryland and moving to Kansas. If he’s not willing to move to Maryland, this relationship is not going to last.
Im.surprised the franchise hasn't caught on to the idea of " Golden Batchelor of Chicago " or Golden Batchelorette of Fla." Etc etc look at the money that who series could rake in for them , like the " 90 days" series on tlc , branched out and has like 10 spinoffs$$$$$$$
I agree. They should do the show in the golden bachelor/bachelorette state where they and the contestants come from. But the show, whether older or the younger version is the same old, same old. They all say the same thing like "I'm falling in LOVE with 3 people," etc. etc. I think it is somewhat scripted that the contestants HAVE to do certain things. No senior wants to pick up and leave where they are living and move away from their family.
Thank you, I have felt the same way throughout the entire show. Especially, when he asked her what side of the bed she sleeps on…Yuck, Yuck, Yuck. He’s all over her which gives me the creeps. He’s Too Much!!!
I feel like they will last because Joan has talked at length in many of her interviews across various podcasts about her expectations for her and her Fiance to basically lead seperate lives that come together for adventures and special time together. Gerry and Terrisa wanted to always be together like they were with their late spouses, and that's one of the many reasons it didn't work. Joan is looking for someone to have adventures with! That's how Pascal made it so far.
Well, that’s exactly what Pascal said he wanted is someone to cook him breakfast and sleep with him and go on trips with him she must’ve not wanted to cook breakfast part because apparently that wasn’t good enough or maybe it was The like he said she just didn’t turn him on😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
I think they make it look so obvious for Chock so it'll be a surprise that it's Guy, whom I am rooting for other than him not being really interested in cooking when they had that date at her house. But he is a busy doctor, so ok.
I’ve loved them as a couple from day one. Chock took the time to look into her life prior to meeting her, this was obvious when he brought her his version of chokonoodle soup. Very smart move and speaks of his commitment to the journey. They had the most natural of dates/moments throughout . Agree all the implied negativity happens with Guy. He will find his special someone from all the publicity just like Jonathan has. ChoJo forever. Love this breakdown, especially examining the outfits being worn when and with whom.🤣
First thought, I don’t think Joan was the right woman to be the first bachelorette. She’s confused about moving forward, because she’s still in love with her deceased husband. This idea of being the first senior bachelorette was thrust upon her; it might have sounded good at the moment, but I don’t think she’s ready for this kind of a serious relationship at all. With that being said, I don’t think either of these men are right for Joan. I think that she’s been confused on the choices she’s made on what man might be the perfect fit for her, since the show moves too fast to make that kind of a decision. And while watching this, I don’t think I would be ready to make another life commitment to somebody that I met on a TV show. World-wind romances are, by all accounts, fleeting. I think when you deal with seniors, this type of hurried setting will inevitably lead to heartbreak. I agree with somebody that said in the comments, the show needs to find people that are in their same home State since seniors our age do not want to move away from our children, our grandchildren, friends or the life that we had made for ourselves. It would be a lot easier if the show found the senior version of The Bachelorette and The Bachelor from those who are sincerely ready to move forward with this next journey in their life. Lastly, my own personal opinion, I liked the marine; there’s something about a man in a military uniform that just does it for me! 🤭❤✌️
@DianeLeBouthillier-k4c yeah, to me, Chock looks like a bad boy or felon. But as to Guy, unlessni knew about the restraining order details and felt he had been entirely set up, I'd be running. It felt to me she eliminated nice men all along, until there were just these two creeps left - but I think she is comfortable and likes such men. They're adventurous and exciting.
Great insights! It is interesting they didnt show both men meeting the family as probably only chock did and they didnt want it too obvious there weren't 2 meet the family dates.
Joan comes across as high maintenance and looking for another man to keep her in the lifestyle her husband did. I don't see genuine 'looking for love' vibes. Why would she want a long distance relationship, and adamantly refuse to move, if she was truly looking for love? She has come across as an older woman trying to be a hot, younger one.
@wensnz6524 You do know her beloved John who showed her with gifts etc . Pleaded guilty to swindling US government agencies of a huge amount of money . He plead guilty to all charges in court . Would have gone to jail if he didn’t die . I am sure that there is money that the Government will want back and lawyer fees .
I totally agree!. I’m 72 and have been told I should go on the golden bachelorette! I’m divorced once and a widow once. I’m an RN still working full time, still ride my motorcycle, and still scuba dive! Sorry but I’m not interested in a third. I’m happy with my kids, grandkids and happy where I am. I think most of the healthy youthful people from 60 -70+ are settled and don’t want or need to change. Best of luck to those who do!
I said to myself he was great at first, but then he started to become a little possessive. I don't think this will last IMO. I think she may reunite with Gerry after it disintegrates.
He doesn't give me that vibe maybe he does have genuine feelings for her even his daughter said she signed him for this show and nothing to gain from being in this show he has a stable career and when he found out the Bachelorette was Joan he was excited... This is whole experience is foreign to him... ❤️
Nancy looks GOOD. She was really quiet and reserved on the Golden Bachelor with Gerry but she is here looking way better and younger and spunkier than Joan
Without a doubt Nancy beats Joan by a mile... I'd vote for her as the next Bachelorette like today...Why they chose the golddigger Joan with a checkered past is beyond my comprehension.
Yes, Joan was s big mistake. Everyone thought she was ladylike and deep, snd turns out she's happy with a felon so long as he makes her life exciting and adventurous (because she can't do that for herself).
When you're done, you're done!..It seems quick to the viewer bcs we only get mere minutes of their screen time, which was discussed between them for hours whilst in production.
The big thing I don’t get about all of this is…..that none of these people are going to leave their careers, families or location they currently live in, to be with possibly the new love of their life….so what’s the point? What am I missing????
Joan is not looking for a fiance, or a husband but a friend with benefits type of pamper me relationship... Someone whose wallet she can drain and hook up once a month or so.
She didn’t seem all that into Pascal til he ended it. THEN she’s all teary and feeling “ unlovable “. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄I’m SO over her. I really enjoyed the men bonding, tho❤
@@TinyDancerO You'd be surprised how many 25 yrs olds would jump at the chance to enjoy his lifestyle. He wants younger but hasn't said how much younger, he just said he will not date a 72 yr old.
😂 At this point I think production is actively choosing what everybody wears just to mess with you and too see if you are going to pick up anything. Like that inch of hair from Joan you saw on the bottom corner of the screen during the Men Tell All... Man, Sherlock Holmes himself would be proud! 😊
Every one in the area where she lives knows about her husband’s felon records . Just Google John Vassos , Bethesda, MD . I am sure that the government will want their money returned.
@paulahill7946 I have a feeling that after her husband’s plead if guilty to stealing money from the US Government ( Google John V , Bethesda , MD ) no man would want to get involved with her . I am sure the lawyers fees were high and that the Fed government will want their money back
She feels sorry for herself, cause the proceeds of the white collar crime have been depleted. She needs the poor widow sympathy, to replenish her finances.😂
I really like Chock, he has been my favorite from the beginning! I would choose him myself!! He is wonderful! I think he genuinely loves her. He even cared enough to get back to her after loosing his Mom!!
Chock creeps me out big time. That shirtless photo is the sinister stuff of nightmares. Even with Guy’s temper, if he agreed to go for anger management, he’d be a much better match. He would protect her, but Chock would harm her.
Chock turned me off when on the group date, and they were bowling he asked her what side of the bed does she liked? I'd said none. I sleep in the dog bed. He's a creep.
Joan: “I don’t know if I’m ready to be in a relationship yet after the loss of my husband.” Also Joan: “I’m afraid I’ll never be lovable enough to have a relationship again.”
is it just me who’s a little annoyed that she’s been this wishy washy all season? forgive me for saying but why even become the bachelorette if you’re THIS unsure and insecure? someone else could’ve been given this chance, maybe?
When someone says, “I do love you,” it always sounds as though they’re overly trying to sound sincere. I don’t trust Chock, and he’s been too pushy. I definitely think he’s in lust and not in love.
It's really no big deal, she is not looking to be a full time wifey.. A long distance friend with benefits is her game..Dude can have a side piece and see her part-time..They can both dump one another at the drop of a hat, there will be no division of property, or bank accounts..It's really simple, without investments.
My bf saw him in a grocery store flexing his muscles, while talking to my bf’s previous girlfriend, a fellow doctor. They both laughed at his obvious preening. But he seems like a great guy, just a bit insecure.
There is something really wrong with pushing people into a proposal just for ratings! In the golden realm there is a lot more maturity, but most people in this age group have a lot of things to work through and it's unnatural for one person to be dating 20+ people at the same time. I'm not going to watch this program after the finale. I just hope Joan doesn't get hurt!
Joan’s a widow, and her deceased husband’s name was John? Yeah, the producers sure didn’t make that known at all. 😆 But, yes, yes, and yes, @BachelorFanTake, totally concur & your insights make perfect sense.
@susiekidd9183 Yes , and the produces forgot to check out that John Vassos ,Bethesda, MD pleaded guilty to swindling the US Government and would have gone to jail if he didn’t get sick . I am sure the US Government will want their money back …, 😳
@susiekidd9183 They didn’t want to get his name out bc if you Google it you will see proof ( government papers ) that he pled guilty to charges of fraud . He was simply put a convicted felon .
Chock is a phony. Joan is annoying for some reason. I don’t know how much is scripted and how much the things she says is on her own. She’s just a bit much at times. This finding love nonsense does not happen in just a couple of months with all the distraction and drama that goes on She will choose Chock but will never marry him especially after getting to know him better
@@plusterri Joan had no intention to marry any of the men..She's there to drain their wallet and not put out.. Repeating ad nauseam of what her husband bought for her, and how he pampered her is the theme of her season.
on the state of Maryland judiciary website, which shows court cases, her and her family have 93 cases. The majority of which they are defendants. That doesn’t even include the federal government website. What man who has more than two nickels to rub together would want to be involved with someone who has such a history of financial/legal problems?😮
@Jjmmoo4 Google John Vassos , Bethesda , MD and read the documents . I am sure the Government will want their money back especially since John V pled guilty to all charges .,
@DianeLeBouthillier Anyone who googles John Vassos, Bethesda , MD all the Government court documents are posted . He would have gone to jail, if he didn’t get sick . He pled GUILTY
@dragonlady1831 Google John Vassos , Bethesda, MD . He is a convicted felon . Ripping off the Government, pleaded guilty to all charges . He would have gone to jail if he didn’t get sick . I am sure that the US Government will want their money back .., the government is like that 😂
I do not like Chock. There are something a bit too smarmy & overly sure of himself. I pray it’s Guy. He is real. No use speculating until it happens. IT NEEDS TO BE GUY!
Joan keeps getting more tan, more hair, more skinny and more youthful looking. Is she real or a robot? I'm guessing she won't commit--she's having too much fun. The elders I talk to say "never again". Who needs marriage? (Churches, lawyers, in-laws, realtors, bankers, military)
And something tells me we won't be seeing a quick wedding scheduled for early January like last time.
You missed them hugging on the boat at 7:28 - confirmation there will be a happy ending :)
@@ilonapellowska1407good eye!
@@ilonapellowska1407Oh snap, I missed that!
This narrator is irritating.
😊@@ilonapellowska1407
I agree with Pascal when you have older contestants that live in different states you are not gonna have a person wanting to pull up and move to another state so I agree with Pascal. They should find all the people in the same state as far as the contestants for the senior bachelorette and bachelors.
@@thelmajohnson2955 exactly, that’s what happened to Gerry and Theresa. It’s unrealistic. I do NOT see Joan leaving Maryland and moving to Kansas. If he’s not willing to move to Maryland, this relationship is not going to last.
Im.surprised the franchise hasn't caught on to the idea of " Golden Batchelor of Chicago " or Golden Batchelorette of Fla." Etc etc look at the money that who series could rake in for them , like the " 90 days" series on tlc , branched out and has like 10 spinoffs$$$$$$$
You know it's all fake, right??
I agree. They should do the show in the golden bachelor/bachelorette state where they and the contestants come from. But the show, whether older or the younger version is the same old, same old. They all say the same thing like "I'm falling in LOVE with 3 people," etc. etc. I think it is somewhat scripted that the contestants HAVE to do certain things. No senior wants to pick up and leave where they are living and move away from their family.
@@alext2963 Yes we do it’s entertainment like House Wives or any other reality show 🤷🏽♀️
I think you nailed all of the predictions this year, Chris! Good work! Thanks for the fun!❤
I'm all in gor for the doctor. He is the most sincere. Chock gives me the willies.
Thank you, I have felt the same way throughout the entire show. Especially, when he asked her what side of the bed she sleeps on…Yuck, Yuck, Yuck. He’s all over her which gives me the creeps. He’s Too Much!!!
Something about him...doesn't seem genuine.
@@courtneyst.julian8192 Yet, she fell in Love with him and picked him in the end!
GUY WORE BREAKUP BLUE!!
Forgot about that
Omg yes!
You know if fake, right??
@@alext2963 🙄
@@alext2963yeah so shut up already! And why are you watching it????
I feel like they will last because Joan has talked at length in many of her interviews across various podcasts about her expectations for her and her Fiance to basically lead seperate lives that come together for adventures and special time together. Gerry and Terrisa wanted to always be together like they were with their late spouses, and that's one of the many reasons it didn't work. Joan is looking for someone to have adventures with! That's how Pascal made it so far.
Well, that’s exactly what Pascal said he wanted is someone to cook him breakfast and sleep with him and go on trips with him she must’ve not wanted to cook breakfast part because apparently that wasn’t good enough or maybe it was The like he said she just didn’t turn him on😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
I think Chock is very possessive! I don’t care for him!
Me nieghter from the start I didn't like him!
I wasn’t crazy about him at first but only seen the first 2 shows.
I think so too
I was ok with him till the bowling alley date when he was hanging all over her and asked her what side of the bed she sleeps on.
A golden paradise would be awesome 🤣🤣🤣
God no 😅😂
@@JoanFrancis-h4f🤣🤣🤣
She should pick Guys. Hand adown. He is true blue.
I think they make it look so obvious for Chock so it'll be a surprise that it's Guy, whom I am rooting for other than him not being really interested in cooking when they had that date at her house. But he is a busy doctor, so ok.
I am convinced she is going to choose Chock, and he doesn't give me good vibes.
Me either, I wish she had fallen for Guy, he seems so much more real !!
Wait why 😮😮
@@windart5671Your radar might be calibrated wrong.
My radar when off about Chock a long time ago!❤
He gives me weird vibes too! At every meeting he has always pushed himself on her. Ick!!
I love how Nancy is taking Jesse's place in talking with Joan.
I think Nancy should replace him. She is much more charismatic and he adds nothing. He was completely cut from one show and no one noticed
@@laurens.7510THANK YOU. 100% agreed!
Guy is my favorite 😢
@@lizbethrodriguez2122 guy is very real. Chock arrogant
Chock gives me iky vibes.
Guy gives me icky vibes since I found out he threatened his ex wife.
I feel that he’s a covert narcissist 🚩
I’ve loved them as a couple from day one. Chock took the time to look into her life prior to meeting her, this was obvious when he brought her his version of chokonoodle soup. Very smart move and speaks of his commitment to the journey.
They had the most natural of dates/moments throughout . Agree all the implied negativity happens with Guy.
He will find his special someone from all the publicity just like Jonathan has.
ChoJo forever. Love this breakdown, especially examining the outfits being worn when and with whom.🤣
First thought, I don’t think Joan was the right woman to be the first bachelorette.
She’s confused about moving forward, because she’s still in love with her deceased husband.
This idea of being the first senior bachelorette was thrust upon her; it might have sounded good at the moment, but I don’t think she’s ready for this kind of a serious relationship at all.
With that being said, I don’t think either of these men are right for Joan. I think that she’s been confused on the choices she’s made on what man might be the perfect fit for her, since the show moves too fast to make that kind of a decision.
And while watching this, I don’t think I would be ready to make another life commitment to somebody that I met on a TV show.
World-wind romances are, by all accounts, fleeting.
I think when you deal with seniors, this type of hurried setting will inevitably lead to heartbreak.
I agree with somebody that said in the comments, the show needs to find people that are in their same home State since seniors our age do not want to move away from our children, our grandchildren, friends or the life that we had made for ourselves.
It would be a lot easier if the show found the senior version of The Bachelorette and The Bachelor from those who are sincerely ready to move forward with this next journey in their life.
Lastly, my own personal opinion, I liked the marine; there’s something about a man in a military uniform that just does it for me! 🤭❤✌️
He was too old
Shes weird. I think she creeped out Pascal. He ran away fast.
Guy is cuter
Your pick, I find Chock looks better, blue eyes, nice smile!😊
@DianeLeBouthillier-k4c yeah, to me, Chock looks like a bad boy or felon.
But as to Guy, unlessni knew about the restraining order details and felt he had been entirely set up, I'd be running.
It felt to me she eliminated nice men all along, until there were just these two creeps left - but I think she is comfortable and likes such men. They're adventurous and exciting.
If she picks Chock I hope she keeps Guy’s number!
@elipotter369 that's crazy and ONLY your opinion
@jeanwimsett7065 that's funny 🤣
And that “unlovable” clip was after Pascal left, NOT part of the finale. Whoops, you said that just as I was typing.
Hey Joan just did what my mom did after my dad died of cancer in the ☀️ of 2019 just be happy about being single get a cat or dog that will do better
Great insights! It is interesting they didnt show both men meeting the family as probably only chock did and they didnt want it too obvious there weren't 2 meet the family dates.
Joan comes across as high maintenance and looking for another man to keep her in the lifestyle her husband did.
I don't see genuine 'looking for love' vibes.
Why would she want a long distance relationship, and adamantly refuse to move, if she was truly looking for love?
She has come across as an older woman trying to be a hot, younger one.
@wensnz6524 You do know her beloved John who showed her with gifts etc . Pleaded guilty to swindling US government agencies of a huge amount of money . He plead guilty to all charges in court . Would have gone to jail if he didn’t die . I am sure that there is money that the Government will want back and lawyer fees .
I totally agree!. I’m 72 and have been told I should go on the golden bachelorette! I’m divorced once and a widow once. I’m an RN still working full time, still ride my motorcycle, and still scuba dive! Sorry but I’m not interested in a third. I’m happy with my kids, grandkids and happy where I am. I think most of the healthy youthful people from 60 -70+ are settled and don’t want or need to change. Best of luck to those who do!
I agree no quick wedding
She seems like a trophy to win w/Chock😊
@@maryB1142 Yes , your wife or special someone should be a trophy
She’s not ready 😢
Chock is giving controlling vibes
How???
Which Joan "feels safe" around!
My guess is that her late husband was too - think of all the illegal stuff he did...
Chock is giving Devin vibes!
Yes, the lovebombing
I said to myself he was great at first, but then he started to become a little possessive. I don't think this will last IMO. I think she may reunite with Gerry after it disintegrates.
@@StormyDayGerry? Really?
He doesn't give me that vibe maybe he does have genuine feelings for her even his daughter said she signed him for this show and nothing to gain from being in this show he has a stable career and when he found out the Bachelorette was Joan he was excited... This is whole experience is foreign to him... ❤️
@@janeddooee they do have chemistry. I didn’t say she was gonna marry him, but they might hook up.
Guy ain't the guy. But will Neil Lane be heliported in so Chock can pick out a ring? That's what I want to know.
I agree, Chock, either she accepts “all in” or you move on
Nancy looks GOOD. She was really quiet and reserved on the Golden Bachelor with Gerry but she is here looking way better and younger and spunkier than Joan
Nancy should have been chosen as Golden B . Joan was a mistake
Disagree, they both looks great!
Nancy isn't making choices & decisions right now, Joan is.
Without a doubt Nancy beats Joan by a mile... I'd vote for her as the next Bachelorette like today...Why they chose the golddigger Joan with a checkered past is beyond my comprehension.
@@wakanda6547why is she a gold digger? (Other than she's happy with a man who has cheated to provide her with lifestyle).
Yes, Joan was s big mistake. Everyone thought she was ladylike and deep, snd turns out she's happy with a felon so long as he makes her life exciting and adventurous (because she can't do that for herself).
3:03 “You’re a great Guy. You’re just not my Guy.” - Joan, probably
You know it's fake, right??
@@alext2963shut the hell up, why is your fake azz here then?????
You have great thoughts and ideas. I still think she may not pick either one 🤔.
Pascal has just apologized to Chok on his IG...The apology was for calling Chok a stalker.
It's human and sincere of him to extend the apology.
Pascal changed so fast. He was like see you. Im out. It was weird.
When you're done, you're done!..It seems quick to the viewer bcs we only get mere minutes of their screen time, which was discussed between them for hours whilst in production.
I initially thought it would be Guy at the end, but as usual, @BachelorFantake is CORRECT. Production could learn from you!!
Chalk gives covert narcissist vibes. They feed off highly empathetic, positive and nurturing people like Joan.
Something about Pascals exit was weird. He was freaked out by her in the way he bailed.
Joan has said she won’t move and nor would her final pick it would be a long distance relationship. They therefore are obviously doing that.
The big thing I don’t get about all of this is…..that none of these people are going to leave their careers, families or location they currently live in, to be with possibly the new love of their life….so what’s the point? What am I missing????
Joan is not looking for a fiance, or a husband but a friend with benefits type of pamper me relationship... Someone whose wallet she can drain and hook up once a month or so.
Dang her family got a free trip to bora bora
I think Joan isn’t going to pick anyone! She’s not ready!
She didn’t seem all that into Pascal til he ended it. THEN she’s all teary and feeling “ unlovable “. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄I’m SO over her. I really enjoyed the men bonding, tho❤
She should choose Guy, but she’ll choose Chock due to their bonding over grief.
Trauma bonding
Pascal for Paradise!
Yeah regular BIP
After his comments about dating younger women 😭
Not sure they would be able to round up enough 25-year-olds willing to embarrass themselves fawning over an almost 70-year-old sleazy dude.
LOL, are you kidding?!?!? Paradise is like CAMPING. NFW!!!!
@@TinyDancerO I’m sure there would be a few young hotties who want a rich French man.
@@TinyDancerO
You'd be surprised how many 25 yrs olds would jump at the chance to enjoy his lifestyle.
He wants younger but hasn't said how much younger, he just said he will not date a 72 yr old.
I think Chock, if chosen, will show his controlling, insecure side & there won’t be a wedding. My thoughts…
She is not ready for anything
She is ready for a hair cut and more Botox
😂 At this point I think production is actively choosing what everybody wears just to mess with you and too see if you are going to pick up anything. Like that inch of hair from Joan you saw on the bottom corner of the screen during the Men Tell All... Man, Sherlock Holmes himself would be proud! 😊
The shirt Joan wears at 6:00 doesn’t match any outfits from this episode, so you might be right.
Guy needs to be the next Golden Bachelor!
I doubt she marry the last man standing. Now that she is so popular. She can find someone in her hometown or state.
Every one in the area where she lives knows about her husband’s felon records . Just Google John Vassos , Bethesda, MD . I am sure that the government will want their money returned.
@paulahill7946
I have a feeling that after her husband’s plead if guilty to stealing money from the US Government ( Google John V , Bethesda , MD ) no man would want to get involved with her . I am sure the lawyers fees were high and that the Fed government will want their money back
Still 99% sure she’s still grieving and getting another man won’t work for long
7:28 seems like Joan is on the boat with Chock.
Desperate people do desperate things like this game show. This woman feels sorry for herself all the time.
She feels sorry for herself, cause the proceeds of the white collar crime have been depleted.
She needs the poor widow sympathy, to replenish her finances.😂
I really like Chock, he has been my favorite from the beginning! I would choose him myself!! He is wonderful! I think he genuinely loves her. He even cared enough to get back to her after loosing his Mom!!
You don't see the redflags?
@@lobstermania4025No, what are they???
@Beverleyrog seriously? He cloaks on her. He's so desperate and just creepy stalker type
It's going to be Chock or no one. Don't know if she can handle living in that State but they have similar values.
Chock creeps me out big time. That shirtless photo is the sinister stuff of nightmares. Even with Guy’s temper, if he agreed to go for anger management, he’d be a much better match. He would protect her, but Chock would harm her.
That is so rude.
Chock turned me off when on the group date, and they were bowling he asked her what side of the bed does she liked? I'd said none. I sleep in the dog bed. He's a creep.
The last pic of Joan looking at Chock says it all.
Too easy to figure out! But I hope it works out for them.
Joan: “I don’t know if I’m ready to be in a relationship yet after the loss of my husband.”
Also Joan: “I’m afraid I’ll never be lovable enough to have a relationship again.”
is it just me who’s a little annoyed that she’s been this wishy washy all season? forgive me for saying but why even become the bachelorette if you’re THIS unsure and insecure? someone else could’ve been given this chance, maybe?
@74lakshmim they're just drumming up drama because this series is so boring.
I do think this is obvious but I do not think they are together now. I think distance is the factor. Hope I am wrong
When someone says, “I do love you,” it always sounds as though they’re overly trying to sound sincere. I don’t trust Chock, and he’s been too pushy. I definitely think he’s in lust and not in love.
It's really no big deal, she is not looking to be a full time wifey..
A long distance friend with benefits is her game..Dude can have a side piece and see her part-time..They can both dump one another at the drop of a hat, there will be no division of property, or bank accounts..It's really simple, without investments.
If I was that fit at his age, I also wouldn’t be coy about it 😂
My bf saw him in a grocery store flexing his muscles, while talking to my bf’s previous girlfriend, a fellow doctor. They both laughed at his obvious preening. But he seems like a great guy, just a bit insecure.
@@rhondas3017 that’s funny
Longer than Gerry and Teresa... I doubt it 😅
There is something really wrong with pushing people into a proposal just for ratings! In the golden realm there is a lot more maturity, but most people in this age group have a lot of things to work through and it's unnatural for one person to be dating 20+ people at the same time. I'm not going to watch this program after the finale. I just hope Joan doesn't get hurt!
Love this ❤
The restraining order from his former wife disqualifies Guy from many things. She dodged a bullet. He is too intense.
She dropped it
I think she will end up with no one.😢
Joan’s a widow, and her deceased husband’s name was John? Yeah, the producers sure didn’t make that known at all. 😆 But, yes, yes, and yes, @BachelorFanTake, totally concur & your insights make perfect sense.
@susiekidd9183
Yes , and the produces forgot to check out that John Vassos ,Bethesda, MD pleaded guilty to swindling the US Government and would have gone to jail if he didn’t get sick . I am sure the US Government will want their money back …, 😳
@susiekidd9183
They didn’t want to get his name out bc if you Google it you will see proof ( government papers ) that he pled guilty to charges of fraud . He was simply put a convicted felon .
@susiekidd9183
The producers didn’t make his name know bc John was a convicted felon . Joan does bring up his name several times a show .
Does anyone else post here , and the next day they are gone ? Sometimes when people reply , and l want to reply back the original post is gone ?
What ...I really thought she was picking Guy😢
Hope joan pick guy
After Joan chooses Chock, don't be surprised when she goes missing. I don't like him! Not even a little bit!
Oh my gosh...😄
And no surprise her falsie fell,out of her dress, she has dangling the girls all season …
😂😂😂my husband walked in and said that tart looks like a hooker .
Well, it's less embarrassing for falsies to fall out as opposed to when the dentures fall out. 😂
Chock is a phony. Joan is annoying for some reason. I don’t know how much is scripted and how much the things she says is on her own. She’s just a bit much at times. This finding love nonsense does not happen in just a couple of months with all the distraction and drama that goes on
She will choose Chock but will never marry him especially after getting to know him better
@@plusterri
Joan had no intention to marry any of the men..She's there to drain their wallet and not put out.. Repeating ad nauseam of what her husband bought for her, and how he pampered her is the theme of her season.
@wakanda6547
Money her husband swindled from the US Government agencies such as a minority one . Plan trash
My heart broke for Guy.
After getting hooked up I hope they don't get BORA-BORED with each other..
I trust Joans final decision! She is the wisest bachelorette so far!
Guy is one for Joan hopefully she meditate with God see and feel right one for her age is factor every one pray for happiness true ❤️ love
They should do a twist ending where Joan just ghosts one of the two final guys.
on the state of Maryland judiciary website, which shows court cases, her and her family have 93 cases. The majority of which they are defendants. That doesn’t even include the federal government website. What man who has more than two nickels to rub together would want to be involved with someone who has such a history of financial/legal problems?😮
How interesting! Do you know that every Vassos case is related to her family specifically, or is she herself is named in a few?
Get a life!
@Jjmmoo4
Google John Vassos , Bethesda , MD and read the documents . I am sure the Government will want their money back especially since John V pled guilty to all charges .,
WTH, who wants to believe this nonsense?
@DianeLeBouthillier
Anyone who googles John Vassos, Bethesda , MD all the Government court documents are posted . He would have gone to jail, if he didn’t get sick . He pled GUILTY
I think you have the wrong Guy, if you know what I mean.
Don’t trust choke
I just want this over with, it's boring and weird.
There's been so much manufacturered drama.
I think shes picking Chok.
I have a feeling she will not pick anyone
5:09 - 5:18 🤣🤣🤣
Not sure. Guy seems ok
Chock is controlling
Chock is so fake
She can't see it
I hope she doesn't select him. Guy was a great choice. Too bad she didn't pick him.
She let so many good oneS GO , people are saying for money ,IF That's the case she F herself over
@dragonlady1831
Google John Vassos , Bethesda, MD . He is a convicted felon . Ripping off the Government, pleaded guilty to all charges . He would have gone to jail if he didn’t get sick . I am sure that the US Government will want their money back .., the government is like that 😂
who kisses with their eyes open?
I do not like Chock. There are something a bit too smarmy & overly sure of himself. I pray it’s Guy. He is real. No use speculating until it happens. IT NEEDS TO BE GUY!
Chock is SO wrong for her!
And you know that how??
@@Ruth-gd8ygcommon sense. Need some?
Breakup blue!
LOL 😹 Bond villain
I just read somewhere where she goes home alone she needs to go home alone
🫡 ~ I don't think Joan will pick anyone ... 🥴
I don’t think she will choose either of these men.
He wearing the breakup blue
Joan keeps getting more tan, more hair, more skinny and more youthful looking. Is she real or a robot? I'm guessing she won't commit--she's having too much fun. The elders I talk to say "never again". Who needs marriage? (Churches, lawyers, in-laws, realtors, bankers, military)
Guy was your man … but he is lucky you passed.
She has really made this a ridiculous show …
Chick, if she isn’t all in, then she is halfway out.
I do no like Chock he seems very controlling. If she choose him it won't last.
Guy is a great guy. Chock is creepy
I don't like Chock